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Speaker 1: I'm just speaking my truth.

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Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you. I'm not ghost producing. I'm

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Speaker 2: not doing any of that. I'm speaking my truth.

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Speaker 3: Stay tuned.

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Speaker 4: We'll get into my conversation with real house Blots of

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Speaker 4: Atomac star Giselle Bryant right after these quick ass hey,

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Speaker 4: rain drop, Yet we got the Queen of a Atomac baby,

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Speaker 4: Giselle Bryant on today's podcast.

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Speaker 3: Y'all, I'm getting these exclusive interviews, honey.

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Speaker 4: I am so excited to share with you all my

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Speaker 4: conversation with Giselle. We get into ever everything, Candice, Chris Bassett,

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Speaker 4: Robin the Grand Dam charies, how people say that Gizelle

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Speaker 4: is the ghost producer of the show. We talk about

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Speaker 4: Jamal Bryant, admiration for each other. Yes, I love Gazelle

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Speaker 4: and Gazelle loves me. Do you want to know why?

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Speaker 4: Will let me stop talking, honey and get into my

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Speaker 4: exclusive interview with Giselle Kobe Bryant.

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Speaker 3: Oh lord jesus.

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Speaker 4: Let's just say I have been waiting on this conversation. No,

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Speaker 4: this is not an interview, y'all. This is a conversation.

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Speaker 4: I have been waiting for this conversation since.

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Speaker 3: I launched the podcast, because.

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Speaker 4: This woman has made it on my top ten of

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Speaker 4: the Greatest Housewives of all time out of one hundred

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Speaker 4: and fifty people. And what's so crazy is she is

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Speaker 4: the only person that made it on my list whose

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Speaker 3: So that goes to show you the packed this lady has.

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Speaker 3: Of course, I'm talking.

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Speaker 4: About the one y'all loved and the one y'all love

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Speaker 4: to hate.

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Speaker 3: Giselle Kobe Brode.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, Okay, First and foremost, Carlos, Let's

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Speaker 2: let's keep it.

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Speaker 1: Cute, okay, because.

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Speaker 2: The last time we had an interview slash conversation, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was getting calls from Bravo.

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Speaker 1: Like why you say that? And why you say this

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Speaker 1: and why you say that? So I'm trying to keep

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Speaker 4: So you know, I'm just say, did I get you

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Speaker 4: in trouble? Okay? You did?

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Speaker 2: Of course you did. Okay, But it's okay. It's okay

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Speaker 2: because just she used to say, Coochy.

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Speaker 3: Bryant, Okay, you better own it, says Listen.

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Speaker 4: I just know that when it comes to you and I,

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Speaker 4: you remind me of the girls I went to middle

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Speaker 1: Is that good?

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Speaker 4: Of bad.

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Speaker 1: I'm confused.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's very good. It's very good.

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Speaker 4: So so in high school, you know, they had the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I was voted I liked.

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Speaker 4: Because people like me despite what you read. Uh, I

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Speaker 4: like you, I like you, I love well, I love you, babe.

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Speaker 4: And I was voted class gossipers because women like yourself,

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Speaker 4: like these beautiful girls I went to school with, they

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Speaker 4: would just keep key with me, and I would always

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Speaker 3: To where all these women would get.

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Speaker 4: In trouble by the man the teacher once they talked

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Speaker 4: to Carlos King.

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Speaker 3: So I apologize Joselle forgetting you at trouble. That's not

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Speaker 1: It's okay, it's okay. I can take it. I can

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Speaker 4: So, guys, as you all know, the Real Housewives of

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Speaker 3: I think it's okay to get.

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Speaker 4: Someone compliment without y'all taking it as if I'm dissing somebody.

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Speaker 4: The Real Housewives of Potomac is my favorite housewife show

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Speaker 4: right now, and a lot of it has.

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Speaker 3: To do with Giselle Kobe Bryant.

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Speaker 4: And yes, I'm gonna keep calling her that because she

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Speaker 4: Sorry not sorry, but Giselle, where were you when you

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Speaker 1: I was home. I was home.

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Speaker 2: It's so crazy that I that I know that I

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, I have something to say. So we

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Speaker 2: There was a Potomac panel Okay, so it's like all

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Speaker 1: Super sweet, and the room is like three thousand packs.

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Speaker 2: And a guy gets up and he was like, well,

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Speaker 1: The queen is Giselle Kobe.

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Speaker 2: And I I said, look at this man listening to

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Speaker 2: Carlos King. I said, Carlos King, get maade Bravo cod.

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Speaker 3: Okay, this fight, I get it. Invited to Bravo, Cod.

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Speaker 3: I still somehow was there. It's spirit and that goes

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Speaker 3: to show you the impact of me. No, I'm teasing you.

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Speaker 3: Know what One thing I heard through.

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Speaker 4: A mutual friend of ours is you listened to that

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Speaker 4: oh that you are so surprised by my breakdown, and

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Speaker 3: Did y'all tell him this about me?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 3: What? What surprised you about my breakdown?

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Speaker 2: Well, first and foremost, I want to say Carlos like

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Speaker 2: thank you, Like I know that A you're a hard critic.

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Speaker 1: B you have worked with most housewives that are you know,

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Speaker 2: You know, you know these ladies, And for you to

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Speaker 2: I truly truly appreciate it because I know that if

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Speaker 1: So I do appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: And it's nice to know that somebody sees you and

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that. And but another thing I want to say,

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Speaker 1: He said, you know, like, what what's your chiropractice name? Becaus?

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Speaker 2: You can carry this thing on your back, honey, I

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Speaker 2: We do work together. There's no I in team, and

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Speaker 4: This show with no and I've had conversations with some

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Speaker 4: I asked candas I said, is there a conversation that

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Speaker 4: like we want to be number one. But I want

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Speaker 4: to go back to you. You have always, based on

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Speaker 4: you have always been this strikingly beautiful woman. I mean

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Speaker 3: Into that later.

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Speaker 4: Guys, Gazelle is top three of the most beautiful women

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Speaker 4: on Bravo. She is gorgeous. She's more pretty in person

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Speaker 4: than on television. I mean, you're a batty on TV

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Speaker 3: We were in her bedroom.

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Speaker 4: She wasn't uncomfortable with me like Chris, so that's that's fine.

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Speaker 3: Shade, no shape.

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Speaker 4: It was me, Giselle, Robin and not that she's been announced.

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Speaker 3: Charisse was there as well, and Gazelle is funny.

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Speaker 4: We had a good hour long conversation.

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Speaker 3: I have to be peeled away from that.

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Speaker 4: But going back to you, did you always know that

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Speaker 2: I knew that because, you know, when I was very young,

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I never took that in as like,

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Speaker 2: Now, if you want to talk about my brains, if

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Speaker 1: Far as the star is concerned. No, I'm just I'm

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Speaker 4: A not even as the first lady, because you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm very spiritual. I'm black, so we all grew up

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Speaker 3: Down to the first lady.

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Speaker 4: So even as the first lady of the church and

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Speaker 3: You treated like you were famous?

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Speaker 1: Yes? But I took that as all first ladies are.

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Speaker 2: All first ladies are revered and treated special and given accommodations.

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Speaker 1: And all of that.

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Speaker 2: So I didn't take that as, oh my gosh, I'm

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Speaker 2: people are bowing down, Like no, I'm being called first

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Speaker 3: Not me.

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Speaker 2: So, you know, a first lady role though it sounds cute,

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Speaker 1: Role to the man that you married. M So it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Until like I, it wasn't until kind of like now

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Speaker 3: She is, and that you are. How did you become

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Speaker 4: Because again, you were always beautiful, you were always smart,

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Speaker 3: Do you agree with that?

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Speaker 4: Yes, no, it was It made me fall in love

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Speaker 4: Would love for you to either dispel this or agree

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Speaker 3: And although you.

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Speaker 4: Two have your own fan basis, I think you and

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Karen was not always that way. Karen

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Speaker 2: I've never cared from day one, Like I don't care

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Speaker 1: We genuinely like to get on each other's nerves.

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Speaker 2: But then we can have a genuine drink, we can

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Speaker 1: So she gets it. Now.

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Speaker 2: Now we're not I've heard you say this before and

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Speaker 4: There was good ship. And it's funny because I noticed

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Speaker 4: So although you guys thow shade at each other and

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Speaker 4: When she called you a Hampton University whore.

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Speaker 2: One, I'm you know, yes I went to Hampton, and

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Speaker 1: And yes I'm very proud of Hampton. I just went.

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Speaker 2: Right, we've jagged at each other so much she wanted

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Speaker 1: So you know that was cute.

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Speaker 2: But you have to keep in mind, Karen, I'm formally educated.

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Speaker 2: That's number one. Number two, my hot box is or

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Speaker 1: Y'all just mad Because I'm single. I can do whatever

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Speaker 3: So look, I love the grand dog. I think Karen.

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Speaker 4: I think Karen was meant for reality television like you were.

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Speaker 2: So it's like she's showing that she doesn't agree with

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Speaker 1: She's showing that she.

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Speaker 2: Has her own voice, which she does, which you know,

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Speaker 2: to Reasonably Shady and going to.

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Speaker 1: Listen to podcasts.

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Speaker 2: But it bothers me because I know that that's not

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Speaker 2: Look, you cannot have seven Gazelle's, you cannot have seven Karens.

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Speaker 1: You know, dot all of her.

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Speaker 2: have and I've said this a million times I have.

445
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 2: I always fight for the show. If you talk to

446
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 2: anybody at Bravo, they let you know, Jaselle's like the

447
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 2: number one champion for the show. And that comes with

448
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 2: how many episodes we have, That comes with how much

449
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,719
Speaker 2: we get paid, that comes with all of it. Like,

450
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 2: I don't fight for Jazelle. I fight for the ladies.

451
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 2: I fight for the show. And a fight for Robin

452
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 2: is like, look, without Robin, how the hell do we

453
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:49,159
Speaker 2: have peace? We don't like she is the dynamic that

454
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 2: we always need. Now, I don't feel like I have

455
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 2: to continue to fight that fight. I think Bravo gets it.

456
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 2: They understand what Robin brings to the show.

457
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 1: But yeah, that has been in the past, something that

458
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 1: has for sure.

459
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, and listen as somebody who's produced Atlanta for eight years,

460
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 4: Jersey for two years, and just create reality shows. You

461
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 4: need a Robin. You don't need seven Gazelle's. You don't

462
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 4: need seven Nini Leaks or seven Porschas. It's I don't

463
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 4: think people understand that the reality ensembles is reflective of

464
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 4: your friendship group in real life.

465
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

466
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 4: In my life, I don't have a bunch of Carlos

467
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 4: Kings around me. I would drive myself crazy if I did.

468
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 4: I have a friend named Kamar, who you know, and

469
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 4: me and Kamar, although we like the same things, he's

470
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 4: much more calm. I'm much more whimsical, and you need

471
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 4: that sort of balance in your real life. And one

472
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 4: thing about Robin that I will say, and we're seeing

473
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 4: it this season, she disagrees with you when it comes

474
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 4: to how Chris.

475
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 3: Made you feel uncomfortable.

476
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 4: And I want to touch on that a little bit

477
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 4: because I know I made a joke earlier about like, well.

478
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 3: Girl, I was in your bedroom with you. You know Robin and.

479
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 4: Schariz are though we weren't alone, what made you feel uncomfortable?

480
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 4: Because I have a theory based on that, but I'm

481
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 4: curious in terms of if I'm right or wrong in

482
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 4: the sense of was it that Chris himself let's look

483
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 4: at Chris the human being, right, Okay? Was it Chris

484
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 4: the human being making you feel uncomfortable? Or was it

485
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 4: just the optics of a man being in your room

486
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 4: making you uncomfortable? It could have been Chris Bassett, Chris Samuel's,

487
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 4: Christopher Williams, or Chris Evans.

488
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 3: Was it the idea of the fact that a man was.

489
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 4: In your room or was it really about Chris Bassett

490
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 4: the human being?

491
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: I think it was both, to be honest with you,

492
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 1: was both.

493
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 2: You know that that evening Chris was very drunk at

494
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 2: that point.

495
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: Of the night.

496
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 2: I didn't get it. I didn't get why he wanted

497
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 2: to have his conference. We could have, we could talk

498
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 2: to the hallway. I didn't get why he wanted to

499
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 2: go to my room. So once we were there, it

500
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 2: just made me feel uncomfortable. You know, you get that

501
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 2: pit in your stomach. That's what I had, And that

502
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 2: is what I've said.

503
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 1: I have never said this man lord to me. I've

504
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: never said he prayed on me.

505
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 2: I've never said that I was excusing him of sexual assault,

506
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 2: even though you know the other side is talking real crazy.

507
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 2: I said he made me feel uncomfortable, and I have

508
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 2: that right to feel that way. I never thought that

509
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 2: he would lie and say that I.

510
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: Asked him to go to my room. That's a lie,

511
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: and that's disturbing.

512
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 2: I think that if a woman tells a man, hey,

513
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 2: when you did this, this made me feel uncomfortable, I

514
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 2: think a man should be like, I'm sorry and we

515
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: move on.

516
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 1: That's it.

517
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 3: No, I agree with you, And.

518
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 4: An example I'll give is, listen, I'm a gay man,

519
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 4: so clearly I'm not attracted to women in that sense.

520
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 4: But I know that I never shared this story, so

521
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 4: this is an exclusive for you guys. I worked out

522
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 4: of Mind Exchange on Fifth Avenue, New York City years

523
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 4: ago when I was in turning at b Et because

524
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 4: a boy had to you know, afford chicken and nuts

525
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 4: at Wendy's. Yes, So long story, sure, I was a

526
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 4: salesperson and a woman was looking for a dress and

527
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 4: I remember finding her dress and I was like, what

528
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 4: size are you? And she said, oh, I don't know.

529
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 4: And I remember touching her arms to give her twirls

530
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 4: so I can like examine and I saw that she

531
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 4: was uncomfortable and I said, oh, I'm so sorry, and.

532
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 3: She said, yeah, I don't I don't want a man

533
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 3: touching me.

534
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 4: And I said, oh, I'm sorry, and she said, look,

535
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 4: I know you're gay. I just don't like that. And

536
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 4: I remember thinking like, okay, cool.

537
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, my bad.

538
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 4: My intention clearly wasn't sexual because I'm not sexually attracted

539
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 4: to women. But if this woman is telling me she

540
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 4: feels uncomfortable, then look you're you're uncomfortable. And the rest

541
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 4: was history. But she said it to me. So my

542
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 4: question to you is is there a reason why you

543
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 4: never said it to Chris and you guys continue to

544
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 4: be around each other.

545
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna say anything at all, and because I

546
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 2: feel like, you know, this has happened to me before

547
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 2: when it comes to a married man, not not this

548
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 2: particular situation, but like marryman have put me in a

549
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 2: situation that has made me feel uncomfortable.

550
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: I just I just.

551
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 2: Felt like, okay, I'm not gonna say nothing. But then

552
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: as the season started and he started dming Ashley and

553
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 2: he dms me, it just was like, WHOA, he's doing

554
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 2: too much and A his wife needs to know. I

555
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: was just gonna tell Candas, and what I did tell

556
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: Candas so that she needs to know, like Chris might

557
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 2: feel comfortable doing these things, but the other side of

558
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 2: the recipients don't feel comfortable, so.

559
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: Like, just to check your maid, then let's move on.

560
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: Like I never thought, Carlos, this was going to blow

561
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 2: up to be you know this thing, Like I seriously

562
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 2: thought that she was gonna go home be like yo,

563
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: you may you alf feel uncomfortable.

564
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: He's gonna be like yo, I'm sorry. And that was it.

565
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: I have no idea while we're still talking about this none.

566
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 3: Who Joselle Let me take a break first, child.

567
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 4: I know I hate to do this, but we'll be

568
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 4: right back with Bourn from the Queen of a Coomay

569
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 4: Giselle right after his quick break. This is reality with

570
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 4: the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into

571
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 4: my conversation with Giselle. Kobe Bryant, how do you feel

572
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 4: when people say, Gazelle, your ghost producing has gone too far.

573
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 4: You are now a lot of people I know you're

574
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 4: off Twitter, which, by.

575
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 3: The way, very smart. Don't go on Twitter. A lot

576
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 3: of people on.

577
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 4: Twitter are like, Gazelle, your ghost producing has gone too

578
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 4: far to make this a storyline to where you are

579
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 4: ruining Chris Bats's reputation just for a storyline. How do

580
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 4: you feel when people say that you created this because

581
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 4: you just wanted to, you know, make the show great

582
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 4: this season.

583
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: I'm just speaking my truth.

584
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you. I'm not I'm not ghost producing.

585
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 2: I'm not doing any of that. I'm speaking my truth.

586
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 2: What happened happened, and that's it. You know, you might

587
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: want to talk to Kandace. I think Kandace has made

588
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 2: this a bigger issue and a bigger deal than yourself.

589
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,959
Speaker 3: Oh why would you say that for those reasons?

590
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: You know, she went home and she told her husband

591
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: that I said he lured me. I never said that.

592
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 2: She said that he was praying on me. I never

593
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 2: said that.

594
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: You know, though, all all of that extra hot.

595
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 2: Sauce on the on the issue didn't need to happen.

596
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 2: I think that, you know, again, this was blown out

597
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: of proportion for no reason. And no, I'm not trying

598
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 2: to make Chris Bassett look bad, but sir, and I'm

599
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,719
Speaker 2: speaking to everybody. Whatever it is that you do in

600
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: this world, you got to own it. You made somebody

601
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: feel uncomfortable, just own it, apologize.

602
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: Keep it pushing. It's not that big of the deal.

603
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 4: Candace was on my podcast, and obviously she's dealing with

604
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 4: this in real time, and she was very upset with

605
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 4: the accusations. Of course, in terms of just this whole

606
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 4: narrative about what's the accusation? Calums, well, that's the thing

607
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 4: based on what again, This isn't me saying this obviously,

608
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 4: And one thing I love about my reality girls is

609
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 4: they know when I interview people, I don't put myself

610
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 4: in it.

611
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 3: I ask questions, they answer, and I keep it moving.

612
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 4: Okay, Candace made it made it very clear that she

613
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 4: felt there was like this this conspiracy theory about setting

614
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 4: her husband up. What we saw in this previous episode

615
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 4: was her talk to Eric Fuller, who's my mentee, who's

616
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 4: a fantastic showrunner, about are we about to make this

617
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 4: a storyline? And Candace said she felt like this was

618
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 4: made up to be a storyline. She insulted you, She said,

619
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 4: nobody wants her a fifty year old puss. She said,

620
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 4: not today, say it, not today, neck, not today, Ankles.

621
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 4: How do you feel to know that Candace really does

622
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 4: feel like you set this up.

623
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: It's not true and she knows it's not true.

624
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 2: And I get it like she's trying to say face.

625
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: I guess.

626
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: But you know, Cannas is the reason why I wasn't

627
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: going to say anything, because nobody's ever asked me, why

628
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: weren't you going to say anything?

629
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: Jazelle is because Cannis is emotionally very immature, and.

630
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 2: Because of that, you know, I just emotionally, I know

631
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 2: that she has a hard time processing anything we've seen

632
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: it and everything I know about her, she's emotionally like.

633
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: In high school.

634
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: So I wasn't gonna say thing because I'm like, ah,

635
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: cann this is not a grown woman.

636
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: A grown woman would.

637
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: Have been like gone home and been like, boy, what happened?

638
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 2: What you say to Jaselle? Go apologize to that girl.

639
00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: That's grown woman. Cannus is not there. I think that again,

640
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 2: there's no reason why we should still be.

641
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: Talking about this, Carlos.

642
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: Out of all the stuff that happens in reality television,

643
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 2: this is like minuscule.

644
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: This is kids stuff. This is like one conversation and

645
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: we're done, and you know, and I know, and she knows.

646
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: The more you talk about it, the more you make

647
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: it into a story.

648
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 3: Okay, now that is true. That is true.

649
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 4: I was dealing with this on my other show, I said, well,

650
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 4: if you feel uncomfortable with what happened, don't talk about it.

651
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 4: But this person kept talking about it. I was like, well,

652
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 4: I guess we gotta talk about it because that's all

653
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 4: you can talk about. So I do agree with you there,

654
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 4: And I want to close this subject by saying something

655
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 4: that just hit me because you know, I want you

656
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 4: to be honest, and I feel like you are being

657
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 4: honest because it's your truth, right you said it should

658
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 4: have been a conversation between.

659
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 3: Her and her husband.

660
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 4: In the perfect world, he would have apologize and that

661
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 4: would have been it. It made me think about you

662
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 4: and Jamal's relationship post divorce, when y'all were working to

663
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 4: get back together, and the infamous reunion Monique's binder, all

664
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 4: these accusations about Jamal Bryant, his phone number, his penis,

665
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,959
Speaker 4: all these things. And what is interesting now that I'm

666
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 4: really listening to you because I want people to really

667
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 4: listen to what you said and follow the history of you.

668
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 3: When all those.

669
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 4: Things were thrown at you, you set there and you

670
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 4: need to say anything. You commented once or twice, but

671
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 4: you kept it moving. And I'm now realizing that your

672
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 4: strategy even dealing with that this been your ex husband,

673
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 4: your daughter's father, these wild accusations of inappropriate relationships with

674
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 4: you know, alleged church members, and all this other stuff.

675
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 3: You never once really made it a big deal.

676
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 4: Is that because you did not want to make this

677
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 4: the big storyline of that season.

678
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: I didn't make it a big deal because it wasn't.

679
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: Andy asked me fourteen times with Gazelle, do you want

680
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: to comment? Do you want to comment? What's your comment

681
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: to Zelle Gazelle? What do you have to say? What

682
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: do you have to say to Zelle Jazelle? And I

683
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: didn't have anything to say.

684
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 2: I know me and Jamal's truth, and I don't need

685
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 2: to explain that to those girls, to the Binder.

686
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: Girl, to the world. I know it and Jamal knows it.

687
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: That's all that matters to me.

688
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: And that's how I deal with things like I'm not

689
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 2: here to do three theatrics and explain a bunch of

690
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 2: stuff that ain't y'all's business. Not everything is y'all's business,

691
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: so and when it comes to Jamal, a lot of

692
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 2: it ain't y'all's business, because yes, that is the children,

693
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 2: my children's father, that's somebody that's going to be in

694
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 2: my life to the day I die. That's somebody that

695
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 2: I love and respect. So yeah, that's not for y'all.

696
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 3: What is your current relationship like now with Jamal?

697
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 1: We're great, Jamal are great.

698
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 2: I rely on him for a lot of things, like

699
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: for instance, this morning, I need an African dress makeup

700
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 2: for Portia's wedding.

701
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 1: That's a whole nother story.

702
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 4: Me too, going not a dress, I'm getting a suit made,

703
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 4: but continue.

704
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: Yes, So, like you know, I hit him up for that.

705
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: I was in Hampton.

706
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: I needed a lot of stuff when I was going

707
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 2: down there. He like, Jamal's my guy and he always

708
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 2: will be.

709
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 4: And one thing I want to let the listeners know,

710
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 4: which I don't think they know this. I know Jamal

711
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,919
Speaker 4: Brian as well, and he had nothing but great things

712
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 4: to say about you. He said, my wife has always

713
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 4: been a star, and now she is one and the

714
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 4: world gets to see it.

715
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 3: And the things that listen.

716
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 4: I'm not in Jamal's bedroom, so I'm never going to

717
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 4: address what Jamal does in his personal life. What I

718
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 4: want the audience to know and the listeners to know

719
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 4: is Jamal is a cool guy's he was nice to

720
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 4: myself and the crew and the staff around him. My

721
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 4: realtor is his real turh.

722
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: I love her.

723
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 3: She loves you. She loves you.

724
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 4: So when people said that this relationship was fake, the

725
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 4: only thing I can say to you is when I

726
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 4: was trying to work with Jamal, Giselle was applying to Atlanta,

727
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 4: y'all almost every week or the other week, child, and

728
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 4: it was a real relationship. And you deserve happiness, and

729
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 4: the audience really wants you to be happy in a relationship.

730
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 4: Where are things now with you and a man? Are

731
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 4: you dating somebody exclusively right now?

732
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:36,439
Speaker 1: Exclusively?

733
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 2: No, Carlos, Yes, I'm dating. I feel like it's.

734
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 1: Not my time for that right now.

735
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 2: I you know, I have these grown daughters that I

736
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 2: live with that are leaving me, and I really want

737
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 2: to I've chosen to make this time about them. When

738
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: they're gone in a year and a half, when they

739
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: all three are gone, then I'm gonna do me.

740
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: And I'm Janine a big way, and y'all not gonna

741
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: be able to stop me from doing me.

742
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 2: Okay, but I really just want to give my kids

743
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: my time.

744
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 1: I do.

745
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 4: I think that's beautiful and one thing people will say

746
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 4: about you, Jazill. Your haters will even say Giselle is

747
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 4: a great mom and they love seeing you film scenes

748
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 4: with your daughters. So it's plausible obviously that and it's

749
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 4: beautiful to the fact that you're choosing this time to

750
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 4: spend with your children because they are getting older and

751
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 4: soon enough they will be at the house. And I'm

752
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 4: pretty sure a nice chocolate man, because I heard you

753
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 4: like dark skin men. I heard you like darskin men

754
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 4: who are very smart, very successful, likes the spool a woman,

755
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 4: and you know all those things. So you got your

756
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 4: own mister Chocolate in the waiting.

757
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: I do want to say this though, about that subject,

758
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 2: because it infuriates me when women always want to be like, oh,

759
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: she don't have a man, she don't have a man,

760
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: as if that's the only reason why women wake up

761
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: in the morning to find one.

762
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: I think that we.

763
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 2: Do ourselves a disservice by acting like that's all we're

764
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 2: good for is being connected to a man.

765
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: That's all I want to say about that.

766
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 2: So women, we need to do better because that's not

767
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 2: even what life is all about. Like, if you really

768
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: live in that's not what life is all about.

769
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: So that's all I want to say about that.

770
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, look and I think listen.

771
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 4: One of the things about these reality shows is the

772
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 4: biggest disc that I've seen is is whether someone's looks

773
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 4: or someone's lack of man meaning husband, or things like that.

774
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 4: So I do think a lot of the audience they

775
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 4: don't like that. They feel like a woman is able

776
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 4: to be happy without you know, a man. Does this

777
00:39:55,760 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 4: sometimes hurt you when people say these nasty things about you?

778
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 2: No, no, I think the minute that I allow that

779
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 2: to happen, something's wrong with me.

780
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 1: Like I'm cuckoo and Y'ALLM crazy if.

781
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 2: I allow people I don't know to affect my day.

782
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah no, absolutely not. My mommy loves me, My daddy

783
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 2: loves me. My kids think that I am met there

784
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 2: she row.

785
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 1: That's all I care about.

786
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,919
Speaker 4: And when you're out in the public, I'm pretty sure

787
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 4: you have never met a hater. And that's the thing

788
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 4: that I want people to know because at Bravo Khan,

789
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 4: they have footage of you know you with the fans

790
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 4: and there was a fucking like pandemonium when it comes

791
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 4: to you. And what's so funny is always tell people

792
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 4: social media is not the real world, because if you

793
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 4: think social media is real, you would believe Giselle Bryant

794
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 4: is the most hated housewife next to Lisa Rena. And

795
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 4: when you were at Bravo Con, there was so much

796
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 4: love for you, Like, does that also make you realize

797
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 4: that I know what's real and I know what's not.

798
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

799
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: Actually, Angie and I had this conversation.

800
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: I just did watch What Happens Live, so we were

801
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 2: we were fresh off of Bravo Con, so we were

802
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: able to like talk about.

803
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: The feeling of it.

804
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 2: And first and foremost, we filmed these shows in a bubble.

805
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: We do our show, we put it out there to

806
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: the world.

807
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 2: And you know, social media does what it does, and

808
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: it's typically negative, right, So to go to a Bravo

809
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 2: Con and it's nothing but love, It's nothing but people.

810
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: Screaming your name and telling you. In episode two.

811
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 2: Of season four you said blah blah blah, and I

812
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 2: loved it and that changed my life. Like what, Like,

813
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 2: it's amazing to get that kind of love from people,

814
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 2: especially when you go years of hearing nothing.

815
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 1: But that bitch needed Ie. She's an old Hey, she

816
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: ain't shit, like you know, it.

817
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 4: Was a good balance speaking of balance, let's talk about

818
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 4: the balance between Karen and Charis, or should I say

819
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 4: lack thereof.

820
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 3: We've seen three episodes.

821
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 4: So far, and Karen is avoiding Charis as if her

822
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 4: name is covid. Why I feel like Karen has a

823
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 4: halfmat to avoid cheries. I think Karen has a vaccination

824
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 4: to avoid charies.

825
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 3: And I love Karen's So this is like this func shate.

826
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 4: But what does Charis have on Karen to the point

827
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 4: where Karen is making every excuse in the book not

828
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 4: to be around this woman?

829
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: A very good question. Now, that's a very good question.

830
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: So we got to wait and see.

831
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 2: However, I'm like Karen, It really shocked all of us

832
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: that Karen went so hard in the paint avoiding Cherise, you.

833
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 1: Know, saying she wasn't gonna I'm not filming with her.

834
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 1: Oh no, Giselle, Charise, what do you mean? Why is

835
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: she here? Oh my gosh, I'm not going to give

836
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: her that kind of life.

837
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 2: Like all of that was happening when we weren't filming,

838
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 2: Like I was like, what are you talking about? Like

839
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 2: Charisa is a day winner, Charisa is a o g

840
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 2: Charesa's been around us even Teresa's been around us even

841
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 2: when she wasn't on the.

842
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: Show, so like I don't I didn't get it. But then.

843
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. But let's be clear. Does Charise

844
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 2: have a lot of tea on Karen? Yes, she does,

845
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 2: and it will be spelled. The tea will we spelled people,

846
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 2: Don't you worry?

847
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 4: Is the tea that Karen allegedly has stepped out on

848
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 4: her marriage.

849
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: Carlos, I can't say all that. I'm getting phone call

850
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: from Bravo. Now I'm would say.

851
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 2: I hate these phone calls. I'm gonna say that Cherise

852
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 2: has tea that we've all known, but we just didn't

853
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 2: spill it. Now, now hear what I said when Karen

854
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: was screaming Gazelle's broke and she's a whore and she's

855
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 2: a this and hamed it in the hot box and

856
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 2: the sing sing and the wing wing and all that nonsense.

857
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 2: Jeselle still kept everything in the back pocket because I

858
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 2: don't need to do that, and sometimes people need to

859
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 2: secretly call me when we finished filming and say thank you,

860
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: thank you, just out almost I didn't say it, but

861
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 2: once the tea is spilled, Now I'm gonna talk about it,

862
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: but I gotta wait for you know, somebody else.

863
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: Fuiled it, not me.

864
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 3: Okay, one last thing.

865
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 4: We're gonna move on, because you know, I am a

866
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 4: huge fan.

867
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 3: Of Giselle Kobe Bryant.

868
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 4: So I remember that scene was last season episode one,

869
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 4: that spilled over into episode two.

870
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 3: The first act.

871
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 4: So you wore this beautiful brown leather outfit, your hair

872
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 4: was in a Beyonce single Ladies bun right, and me

873
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,439
Speaker 4: and my partner, First of all, I think he loves

874
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 4: you more than I do.

875
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 3: He's obssessed with you.

876
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 4: So he and I were watching the episode and you

877
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 4: said something to Karen, don't worry, don't worry, I wanta

878
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 4: spill it today.

879
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 3: I would spill it over time.

880
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 4: And then you you had like you it was like

881
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 4: this imaginary dust that you were sprinkling over the table

882
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 4: when you said, I'm not gonna spill it now, I'll

883
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 4: just spill it over time. Just just answer this for

884
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 4: me and I'll move on the stuff that's being revealed

885
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 4: this season. Was that what you were talking about when

886
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 4: you made that statement.

887
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 2: Yes, but but and even when and even even a

888
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 2: lot of spilled, and I still got more than I

889
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: still have to said, and guess what, Karen doesn't even

890
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: need to worry because because nine point nine times out

891
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 2: of ten, I'm gonna keep it to myself because not

892
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 2: everything is for y'all because I'm I'm actually a really

893
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: nice person, so like if not everything is for the people,

894
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 2: so I'm probably gonna keep it to myself.

895
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 4: I can't so this, okay, okay, got me. Let me

896
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 4: start fangirling. It was nice to see you and Mia

897
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 4: get past the cancer. I don't mean to laugh because

898
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 4: it's that words.

899
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 3: Funny, but you, guys not funny. That word's not funny,

900
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 3: so guys don't read me.

901
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 4: But it's more so of Giselle's.

902
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 3: Statement and delivery. Thank you so much.

903
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 4: So I was texting with Giselle and I said to

904
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 4: her something like, I you know, I love you. This

905
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 4: episode was great, And then she made that statement like

906
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 4: did you love this part? I said, oh no, bitch,

907
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 4: there's something else.

908
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 3: That I love.

909
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 4: What I love about you is you know how to

910
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 4: enter a scene, give a moment, and make all of

911
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 4: us laugh.

912
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 3: And I just have to say that was great.

913
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 4: But when you and I were in your bedroom with

914
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 4: Robin and and I'm not gonna spill what happened because

915
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 4: y'all have to stay tuned. A very big moment happened

916
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 4: the night before and this I'm gonna say this because

917
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 4: I want you guys to know who Jezebe really is.

918
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 4: So after we all have this fangirl moment in the room,

919
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 4: Giselle made a comment that struck me and I was like,

920
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 4: I wish people saw this side of you.

921
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 3: Giselle said, Mia is great for this show.

922
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 4: And the spite was going on, you know with us,

923
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 4: This spite was going on this season with she and I.

924
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 3: Mia is good for this show. And we talked.

925
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 4: About other people, and you had nothing but nice things

926
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 4: to say about other people as it relates to their

927
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 4: position on the show. What makes you able to switch

928
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 4: from the shape people throw at you to also acknowledge that, look,

929
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, we're a team and

930
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 4: this cast made is great for the collective.

931
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: For that reason, because the shade that you throw me

932
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 2: is good for the show. The shade that I throw

933
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 2: you is good for the show. If this people need

934
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 2: to like actually relax and realize this is a television

935
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 2: show and this is entertainment, and you know, don't ever

936
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 2: you know, Giselle never takes anything too personally, and we

937
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 2: all get something called a faith check.

938
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 1: We get a wire since to our bank account. That

939
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:35,760
Speaker 1: means we're working.

940
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 2: So this is business right, and yes it's personal business,

941
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 2: so to speak. But I understand the big picture and

942
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 2: I never lose sight of it. And in the big picture,

943
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 2: you can. You should throw shade at me. I used

944
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 2: to tell Charlica all the time. Girl, if you need

945
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 2: to cust me because you're mad, go head on and

946
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 2: do it. Because us this is a television show in

947
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 2: which one we're one. Being real is how you really feel.

948
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 2: And I'm never.

949
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: Going to be mad if I feel like it's great

950
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: for the show. Never.

951
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 2: I might be mad in a moment, but later I'll

952
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 2: be like Base, that was great.

953
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 4: And that's why you're one of the greatest housewives of

954
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 4: all time and also a force multiplier. So with that

955
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 4: being said, thank you so much for doing this. You

956
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 4: know I am a big fan of yours. I love you,

957
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 4: I adore you. Before you leave. Tease to us was

958
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 4: to come not only on the rest of the season

959
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 4: of Potomac, but also a little taste of what we

960
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 4: can expect from Ultimate Girls Trip three ooh, okay, let's.

961
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 2: Talk about Girls Trip three first, because I know that

962
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 2: you love Porsche.

963
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: Yes and.

964
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 3: Love.

965
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: And you know, when Portia and I.

966
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 2: Did chat room, Bravo's chatroom, that was a what do

967
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 2: you call those things? Zoom type of showy virtual virtual

968
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 2: or virtual show. We had like so much chemistry and

969
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 2: so much love for each other, and we talked about

970
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 2: being on a trip together just as girlfriends, and then

971
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 2: here comes all right, we want you all to go

972
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 2: to Thailand.

973
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 1: So we were a Portunately.

974
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 2: I was so excited to be there together and we

975
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 2: can keep in acting like straightfolds for eight days, which

976
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 2: was amazing.

977
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: It is a it is a.

978
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 2: Great combination of drama, hilarious and.

979
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: What do you call those things that they make us

980
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 1: do all the time?

981
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 2: Carlos activities and stupid ass activities. Okay, so it's stupid

982
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,439
Speaker 2: ass activities that do nothing but make drama and it's

983
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 2: very very funny. I mean, I don't want to speak

984
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 2: on the other two that have come, but I feel

985
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 2: like this thing that we did in Thailand is amazing.

986
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 2: Now let's get to the Real Housewives, Potomac So Real

987
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 2: house Spots, Potomac Guys, y'all think these three episodes have

988
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 2: been good. Y'all ain't seen nothing yet. It is a

989
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 2: great It is NonStop. I love how this season we

990
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 2: did not hold anything for too long. So we had

991
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 2: me and the cancer, Yeah, we done with that. We

992
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 2: had you know, me and Cannas in the Christ situation.

993
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we've done with that. We just keep

994
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: moving and moving and moving because so much is happening.

995
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:36,760
Speaker 1: It is like a moving target.

996
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 2: So Miami is out of control. Carlos Can attested that

997
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 2: a little bit because he was there. And by the way,

998
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 2: when Carlos and I did meet in person, like I

999
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 2: think I was naked in the bed, I think they were,

1000
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 2: and I did feel comfortable.

1001
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: Thank you Carlos. Anyway, but I do love this season.

1002
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: I really feel like it's our best season. Yeah.

1003
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, Gizelle, what can people follow you and support you?

1004
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 3: My love?

1005
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 2: I am on all social media things. I am Jaselle Bryant.

1006
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 2: Now that Twitter, y'all can have that hit.

1007
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: Me on that Instagram.

1008
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 2: Also, you know, Rob and I have our reasonably shady

1009
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 2: It drops every Monday. So an episode dropped today and oh,

1010
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 2: Robin and I are doing a live show.

1011
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: In New York, November twenty sixth.

1012
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 2: So if you, after you've eaten your turkey and cut

1013
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 2: your family out, come.

1014
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 1: Hang out with me and Robin.

1015
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 4: Yes, well, thank you Giselle Kobe Bryant for blessing the

1016
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 4: kingdom with your presence.

1017
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 3: Babe, Yes, thank you, I love you. I bey you

1018
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 3: already know that Filmus Metro. Yeah. I love Jazelle. Sorry

1019
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 3: and I'm sorry I do. I think she's funny, she's gorgeous,

1020
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 3: she so smart, and she's reasonably shady. How can you

1021
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 3: not love Gazel?

1022
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 4: My thing is this, if you are a fan of

1023
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 4: reality television, then you have to be a.

1024
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 3: Fan of Gazel.

1025
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,479
Speaker 4: She is such a force multiplier that when she enters

1026
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 4: a scene, she knows what she's doing. And now the

1027
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 4: producer of reality TV, Baby, that's what I like to

1028
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 4: work with.

1029
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 3: How funny is it.

1030
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 4: That Gazelle is that Bravo con And my rain drops

1031
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 4: when I say that, melted in my heart. My rain drops.

1032
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 4: The fact that one of y'all said, Gazell Kobe Bryant.

1033
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 3: I mean, I love y'all.

1034
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 4: Y'all show me so much love and support that I mean, look,

1035
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 4: y'all will never ever, ever, ever, ever understand how much

1036
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 4: that means to me, So thank you for shouting me

1037
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 4: out at Bravo Con and look, we have so much

1038
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 4: more to do with Gazelle.

1039
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,439
Speaker 3: Hopefully I won't get her in trouble this time.

1040
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: But.

1041
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 3: Thank you for listen to Reality with the King.

1042
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 4: New episodes drop every Wednesday and Friday, Share, comment, follow,

1043
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,439
Speaker 4: and subscribe to Reality with the King.

1044
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 3: Wherever you get your podcast.

1045
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 4: Visit Reality withthe King dot com and be sure to

1046
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 4: follow me at the Carlos King Underscore on Instagram and Twitter.

1047
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 3: Tweak me your thoughts and hot.

1048
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:32,520
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1049
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1050
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 4: by Stitcher. It is executive produced by Me, Carlos King,

1051
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 4: and Jasminhilly Brown. We are also produced by Lashik, Lotus

1052
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 4: Lee and Laporta Thomas. Additional production support by Corona Wallace

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