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<v Speaker 1>Patriots looked offul impressive. They beat the Jets twenty seven fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know they looked impressive. The Jets aren't good,

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<v Speaker 1>but the Patriots look good. I mean those first couple

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<v Speaker 1>of drives. Drake May with Brady esque, I'm talking yes,

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<v Speaker 1>even nice Stefan Diggs bill and reinvigorated. He looks good.

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<v Speaker 1>Henderson is running extremely hard. Uh two touchdowns on the ground,

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<v Speaker 1>one in the air. Drake May twenty five thirty four

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<v Speaker 1>to two eighty one one touchdowns. I thought, overall, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought they played well. Uh but who let's let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>before we get to the Jets, let's highlight the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 1>O Joe, Yeah, Okay, okay, Mike Rabel has done an

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<v Speaker 1>unbelievable job. You go, you go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Hell of a job, hell of a job. Listen, Mike Rabel.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure what he did once he got there,

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<v Speaker 3>but he's done one hell of a job. Obviously. It

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<v Speaker 3>makes things much easier when you have a quarterback that's

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<v Speaker 3>playing out of his mind and only his second year

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<v Speaker 3>in Drake May. In the Division, they three and oero. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>the talk has always been the super the supposed to

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<v Speaker 3>go to the Super Bowl. This is their year. The

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<v Speaker 3>Buffalo Bills. They're two and two in the division. The

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<v Speaker 3>goddamn the Patriots have dominated all season long. Being ninety two.

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<v Speaker 3>This is something I wasn't expecting. Being being the fan

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<v Speaker 3>of the game of football that I am, I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>think they would be this good. They have been really,

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<v Speaker 3>really well. And because of the quarterback play, obviously, the

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<v Speaker 3>supporting cast defense is played well. Stefan Diggs is playing

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<v Speaker 3>out of his mind. He's playing out of his mind

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<v Speaker 3>even playing very very good football. Matt Collins out there

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<v Speaker 3>making plays, Douglas doing well, doing well as well. And

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<v Speaker 3>Trayvon Henon is it Trayvon Henderson? Am I saying that right?

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<v Speaker 3>Trayvon Henderson, trebon man? Listen, but young Bull, nice boy,

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<v Speaker 3>young young Bull is really young bull, real nice. He's

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<v Speaker 3>one of the few running backs to on on on

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<v Speaker 3>on the field that can hit his head off the

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<v Speaker 3>goal post. Play with Okay, he got he got speed,

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<v Speaker 3>got speed to burn. So man, they look really good.

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<v Speaker 3>They look really good tonight man. And on defense, hey

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<v Speaker 3>that got a that God damn. Christian Gonzales.

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<v Speaker 1>He nice, oh he he fluid, Hey, listen, he nice.

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<v Speaker 3>He needs I know he's been injured a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>but he needs to be in the conversation of top

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<v Speaker 3>five dbs.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially Oh yeah, yeah, I mean you know PS PS

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<v Speaker 1>two Stingley Jr. Him, Yeah, you know, those those are

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<v Speaker 1>those are your top I guess people like JE Horn,

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<v Speaker 1>some people like J. C. Horn, But I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think Gonzale, I think PS two and I think uh

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<v Speaker 1>uh Stingley Jr. I think those are the top three

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<v Speaker 1>corners in my book because they all present very very

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<v Speaker 1>very different now, Gonzales and and PS two kind of

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<v Speaker 1>they got kind of similar body types. Their tall angular

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<v Speaker 1>uh Stingley is a little bit more compact, probably a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit a little more a little because a little

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<v Speaker 1>probably a little stronger because of the way he the

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<v Speaker 1>way he's built. But if you look at the way

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<v Speaker 1>PS two and the way he glides, he and Gonzales

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<v Speaker 1>have a very very similar game. Yeah. Yeah, Trivia on

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<v Speaker 1>heresy had two Russian one in their uh one. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>they threw him one. Uh. But yeah, this is this

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<v Speaker 1>is oh Jo. This is a very good team. They're

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<v Speaker 1>very well coached. And now you see why that after

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<v Speaker 1>one year miss the crafts Like you know what, Gerard,

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<v Speaker 1>I really hate to pull the plug this quick, but

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<v Speaker 1>this coach is proven, uh and it's too good to

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<v Speaker 1>pass up. And if we don't do this now, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a good guess.

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<v Speaker 3>Be going somewhere else. Yeah, he'd be going somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Else because if you think about it. The Falcons interviewed

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Brabel Mike McDonald at Seattle. They interviewed like more

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<v Speaker 1>guys that are doing extremely well right now, and they

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<v Speaker 1>settled on the right course and right he's gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to get this thing. He's gonna have to get this

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<v Speaker 1>thing turned around. But just watching New England, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>beat themselves. I know, you know, Raber doesn't really mention

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot, but I think he took a whole

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<v Speaker 1>lot playing under coach Belichick. The matter of rhythm that

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<v Speaker 1>he's not as he's not his stoic on the sideline.

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<v Speaker 1>He's waiting to give his guys high five coming off

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<v Speaker 1>the field. He's waiting to hug his guys. You watch

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<v Speaker 1>him in the hallway, Oho, when they're coming off the

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<v Speaker 1>field after Big Rick victory, he's hugging everybody. Hey, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>get in here, come on, let's go. Let's And he's

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<v Speaker 1>a guy I would love to play for. He's the

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<v Speaker 1>type of guy that you loved, you love to play

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<v Speaker 1>for because he ain't go sugarcoat it now, Oh Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>you know exactly where you stay with Mike Rabel. Yes, sir, o.

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<v Speaker 3>Joy, take you time, Take it time.

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<v Speaker 1>I tweeted a little bit, but I just say I

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<v Speaker 1>just stopped tweeting because people, you know, I think, like man,

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<v Speaker 1>you pick it on the guy. But at some point

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<v Speaker 1>in time, Oh Joe, I'm not so sure Justin Fields

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna ever be what a lot of people thought

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<v Speaker 1>he would become. Oh, Joe, let me give you some

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<v Speaker 1>of these stats. He was three four eleven he got

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<v Speaker 1>injured in the fourth quarter for twenty seven yards. He

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<v Speaker 1>played the entire game Incos, he was nine of seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>for forty five yards. He played the entire game. Against

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<v Speaker 1>the Carolina Panthers, he was six or twelve for forty

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<v Speaker 1>six yards and lost to Cleveland. He was six of

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<v Speaker 1>eleven for fifty four yards and forty two of your

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<v Speaker 1>those yards came on a screenplay bad tonight. Yeah. Before

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<v Speaker 1>the final drive he had seventy five yards passing. Yes, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>I think A d Mitchell left his hands in Indy. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, oh listen, listen now. Now he ended the game

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<v Speaker 3>with seventy five.

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<v Speaker 1>Yards, right, No, he had one hundred and sixteen. But

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<v Speaker 1>before that, before the final drive, he got forty one

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<v Speaker 1>of the white sixteen. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So, So one of the things that I do want

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<v Speaker 3>to say before before we pile on Justin Field, I

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<v Speaker 3>want to I want to talk about some of the

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<v Speaker 3>drop passes Ady Mitchell. Two big plays. They played two

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<v Speaker 3>big players in the first half before half you got

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<v Speaker 3>the had those go ball. Yeah, it's oh man, you

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<v Speaker 3>got to have that. Hey, it's perfect though outside showing away.

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<v Speaker 1>From the can't ask for anything more than that.

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<v Speaker 3>O joe, you got to have that's that's perfect red line.

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<v Speaker 3>You pull that in, then the wheel route up. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>adjust yourself, slow down a little bit. You know, if perfect,

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<v Speaker 3>perfect ball outside shoulder, dB has no way to make

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<v Speaker 3>a play, has no way to make a plan. You

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<v Speaker 3>got to have that. So though those are those are

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<v Speaker 3>passes that you got to help your quarterback out. Sometime

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<v Speaker 3>you got to help your quarterback. And that's why the

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<v Speaker 3>sash looked like look the way they look. Sometimes that

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<v Speaker 3>dropped past.

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<v Speaker 1>He had he had a couple of drop but there

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<v Speaker 1>was a couple O joe, he had AD and AD

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<v Speaker 1>probably would have dropped it, but he had him on.

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<v Speaker 1>He had him on the head. That's a simple pitching catch.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh he threw a wi he threw you put that

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<v Speaker 1>on that because here's the thing, the dB is probably retreating.

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<v Speaker 1>You put that on him. Now, get to face you up.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a chance I can make you miss at least

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<v Speaker 1>at least I caught it at five and bare minimum Ojo,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get a first down. I might make you

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<v Speaker 1>missing yet even more, I'm like, justin to start the game.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't because what do we always say, O Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>give me something. I just want to get my hand.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to touch the ball. Let me touch it.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotta give me nothing sophisticated. Just let me catch it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me catch ah, let me catch a shallow cross.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to touch the ball. You give it

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<v Speaker 1>to them early? You got me late? Yeah? Justin? How

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<v Speaker 1>how on a on a on a five yard hitch route?

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<v Speaker 1>You miss a got that far outside?

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm and listen. And that that goes for the

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<v Speaker 3>quarterback too. Most of the time, some quarterbacks they don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to come out with anything. Want they want some short.

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<v Speaker 3>They want a nice little checkdown to get themselves in

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<v Speaker 3>a rhythm, you know, to get a feeling for the

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<v Speaker 3>game and not not really chase the game, but allow

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<v Speaker 3>the game to come to them. And and that's that's

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<v Speaker 3>what you want. You want to slant, you want to hit,

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<v Speaker 3>you want some want some you know, short. But I

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<v Speaker 3>think I think right now, I'm not sure. With as

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<v Speaker 3>bad as the Jets are, everyone around justin fields has

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<v Speaker 3>to be almost they have, yet they have to raise

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<v Speaker 3>their level of play. They got to raise their level

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<v Speaker 3>of play to catch up or to make sure they

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<v Speaker 3>can overcome for Justine's mistakes or his lack of confidence.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, you have to that. That's what you need.

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<v Speaker 3>You you that kind of dog out there. And he didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't play to night. I think I think Garrett

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<v Speaker 3>was ir right now. So's he's gonna miss the next

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<v Speaker 3>now three games after the night and and and then boy,

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<v Speaker 3>they got the musterd up, they got the mustard up.

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<v Speaker 3>You know those that are there, John John Michie made

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<v Speaker 3>some made some plays John Messy. I'm sorry, I might

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<v Speaker 3>apologize Messi. He made some plays to night. Tight end,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, little chuck down play.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's yeah, you gotta have that catch, that tight

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<v Speaker 1>end on the fourth down. You gotta hold that one.

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<v Speaker 1>You got the first down, and you're getting hard because

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<v Speaker 1>you take it so long to blit the ball to

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<v Speaker 1>you the guys to bring it in.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he knocked it down. But outside of that, man,

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<v Speaker 3>listen the gests that they if they didn't play that.

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<v Speaker 1>Bad, they didn't they really just couldn't get off the

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<v Speaker 1>field in that first half, oh, Jo, They couldn't get

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<v Speaker 1>off the field. Yeah. I mean they get him in third,

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<v Speaker 1>they get him in third and four, third and five,

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<v Speaker 1>they get a first down, they get him in third

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<v Speaker 1>and ten, they get a first down. They just could

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<v Speaker 1>not get off the field. And and I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they rush three, they rush four, they bring pressure, and

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<v Speaker 1>they still didn't get there. I'm like, well, damn, how difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, man, how difficult is it? And you you're right?

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<v Speaker 1>And I think a lot of times the drops maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that that messes with with with Justin Field's confidence because

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, well, am I doing something? What am I

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<v Speaker 1>doing wrong? Because he'll throw one terrible and then he'll

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<v Speaker 1>drop a dime, he'll throw two terrible, and he'll throw

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<v Speaker 1>another dime. He had he had ad Mitchell again him

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<v Speaker 1>to go. He had gone out as an ass with

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<v Speaker 1>the ball. I thought he's playing pin the tail and

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<v Speaker 1>a donkey. I said, with damn he comes out in

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<v Speaker 1>the ass.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>He was. And that's the thing. When you get a

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<v Speaker 1>guy beat down there on Joe, you know you're already

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<v Speaker 1>struggling as an offense. You can't miss what I tweeted.

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<v Speaker 1>I said Mitchell you're not that good offensively to oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not that good of a team to overcome those

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<v Speaker 1>kind of mistakes. That's a flat out draw. And they're not.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're saying, okay, you get a guy like Justin

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<v Speaker 1>Fields and he's struggling. But they don't have the receivers.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't have a Chase or Jeda or one of

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<v Speaker 1>these top flight receivers that could over a couple of them.

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<v Speaker 1>They need more than one. They need a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of them that can elevate them. They and

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<v Speaker 1>I just, I just.

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<v Speaker 3>It sucks. It sucks. It sucks. And listen, not not

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<v Speaker 3>only that they're not playing well, they let two of

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<v Speaker 3>the best players on d SHO obviously got you got

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<v Speaker 3>you got players for them, so you would hope those

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<v Speaker 3>players that you got in the trade can step up

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<v Speaker 3>and and and and and play the part. And obviously

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's eighty it's eighties, first week, this is first

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<v Speaker 3>year two right, this is the first game.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there the first time he caught the path? Is there?

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<v Speaker 1>The first time he read around? I mean, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you say, no matter where you go, wherever, you play

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<v Speaker 1>right right.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, right right right, like I'm not listening. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>making no excuse me for him. You have to you

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<v Speaker 3>have to make those plays. You have to.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to and with justin fields excuse me, Garrett

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson out. It's supposed to be the best receiver because

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<v Speaker 1>the cost. They had high expectations until you got into

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<v Speaker 1>Shane Steiken's dog house with that fumble. It was never

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<v Speaker 1>the same after that. Now, maybe there was something going on,

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that was the final straw that broke the Campbell's

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<v Speaker 1>back on Joe, But from that point on.

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<v Speaker 3>It was the same nome.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just don't know how you throw for twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seven yards in a game, you throw for forty five

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<v Speaker 1>yards in a game, you throw for forty six yards

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<v Speaker 1>in the game, you throw for fifty four yards in

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<v Speaker 1>a game, and you throw for one hundred and sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>and forty one of that came on the final drive.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't know how you move on and become

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<v Speaker 1>and become what people thought you were going to become

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<v Speaker 1>when they took you at the top draft pick. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think you were fifteen to sixteen something

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<v Speaker 1>like that on Joe. I just don't see the consistency.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see I don't see him. One two, check

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<v Speaker 1>it down one two three out of bounds one two gone.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see that. And you know, as a quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>the really good ones. Yes, back foot here, Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>dropping back. I know the play, Oh Joe, I'm dropping back.

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<v Speaker 1>Already gone through it. Okay, we've gone through it through

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<v Speaker 1>the course of the week. Cover one we go here,

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<v Speaker 1>Cover two we go there, Quarters we go here, Cover

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<v Speaker 1>five we go there, Scott Siks, we already know. So

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<v Speaker 1>when you back it up, the sect has already told

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<v Speaker 1>you what it's doue single high safety. Oh I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going right now. Oh he's covered. Let me let

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<v Speaker 1>me see what two wheels it's two there. Okay, let

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<v Speaker 1>me take this check down. Oh Joe, Yeah, see it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like it's like he got a dial up service.

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<v Speaker 1>He ain't got that. By g they say they got something.

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<v Speaker 1>They got teng Off in China say, hey, you cut

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<v Speaker 1>the Boneum already gone to what you're looking for?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, most definitely. I think the fact that also

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<v Speaker 3>with the offensive line not not playing as well as

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<v Speaker 3>they should be, he's rushing everything a little bit, not

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<v Speaker 3>being able to go through his progression and understand listen

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<v Speaker 3>pre snap. Okay, I'm seeing what they're doing. And once

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<v Speaker 3>that ball snaps, you know, obviously you want you want that.

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<v Speaker 3>You want that head straight down the field, not giving

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<v Speaker 3>anything away and not having the time to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to go through his read and progression. I think he

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<v Speaker 3>speeds things up and hurry's throws. He rushes throws to

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<v Speaker 3>Herbie getting the ball out of his hands too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, okay, I'm looking at against Buffalo. He

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<v Speaker 1>averaged two point five yards of the temp against the Broncos,

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<v Speaker 1>two point six yards per attempt against Carolina, three point

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<v Speaker 1>eight yards per attempt against Cleveland four point nine yards attempts.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not even a running back average squat. If he's

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<v Speaker 1>doing that, right, imagine if you're a quarterback and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what your yard per attempt did, that is horrible.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's bad. But also you know, also, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what else, It also comes down to the weapons around you.

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<v Speaker 3>It also it also comes down to what do you have,

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<v Speaker 3>what is your supporting cast? Like now you take a

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<v Speaker 3>Justin Fields here hypothetically speaking, right, so you keep the

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<v Speaker 3>same and you put a Jamar Chase. So you put

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<v Speaker 3>a Justin Jefferson, you put a T. Higgins or you

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<v Speaker 3>put any of the top tier, top tier receivers on

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<v Speaker 3>that team together. Yeah, snow one in the one or

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<v Speaker 3>one or one in a one or a decent a

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<v Speaker 3>decent two. Yeah, Hey, it looked completely different because they

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<v Speaker 3>can overcome for all the woes that justin fields may

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<v Speaker 3>be having. They can overcome all that the small stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>You got Jamar Chase, crazy ass could take a goddamn

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<v Speaker 3>slant and the goddamn hitch eighty yards. You got T

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<v Speaker 3>Higgins any ball you throw to him, which was considered

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<v Speaker 3>for most receivers fifty to fifty. Hell with him, it's

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<v Speaker 3>ninety ten. Like small stuff like that, where you have

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<v Speaker 3>players that that can elevate their play to overcome for

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<v Speaker 3>your your shortcomings, it makes things easier. But they just

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<v Speaker 3>don't have that. Therefore, everybody else has to raise their

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<v Speaker 3>level to play, and damn there be perfect and that

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<v Speaker 3>that's the issue. That's the issue.

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<v Speaker 1>They have to look at the guys that you just mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>they had their best seasons. If you think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>what do the guys do really well? Process information really

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<v Speaker 1>really quickly. Oh yeah, go back and look at Joe. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>go back and look at Joe Flacco. It doesn't even

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<v Speaker 1>look like Chase is falling off because Joe Flacco backfoot here.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to it as cousins, Sam Donald, You couldn't

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<v Speaker 4>care who's in there with Jella because they process information

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<v Speaker 4>quickly you And that is the number one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>How well do you download information? And how quickly can

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<v Speaker 1>you disseminate it? I don't care. I don't care what

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<v Speaker 1>you got. I don't care what I got, but leg

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<v Speaker 1>you got? Can you Hey, if I put that information

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<v Speaker 1>on Joe, how soon can you spit it back out? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>And the funny thing about it is not only being

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<v Speaker 3>able to process it, not only being able to spit

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<v Speaker 3>it out, but you know what makes it even easier

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<v Speaker 3>the motherfucker you're throwing but.

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<v Speaker 1>Easier. But see, now you got me? Okay, I run

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<v Speaker 1>a hitch route, Now you gonna got me? Well, do

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<v Speaker 1>I need to slide? Do I need to slide? Because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm anticipating because I don't know where it's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 1>I know normally I'm gonna get a hitch. I will

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<v Speaker 1>get it in the framework of my body, Ojo, because

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<v Speaker 1>he's not gonna be under pressure because it's one, two three, boom,

0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:21.359
<v Speaker 1>balls out, so he's not gonna be up under pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think I'm gonna get the ball somewhere in here,

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<v Speaker 1>here here, not out here. Yeah, So it makes it difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like sometimes when you're dealing with a mobile quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to adjust to them Ojoe because I run

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<v Speaker 1>my route and next thing I know, he wear the

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<v Speaker 1>crowd screaming. I'm like, damn, what happened? He way over there?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what, Dad. So it's hard when your quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>is inconsistent. I don't give a damn what the receiver is.

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<v Speaker 1>You want some consistency at that that position, but you

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<v Speaker 1>want somebody that can digest information. The holch put the

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<v Speaker 1>put it in, and he spit it right back out

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<v Speaker 1>in the form of getting the ball out of his hand.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope I'm wrong. I pray I'm wrong, But I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't know if he's ever gonna be what many

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<v Speaker 1>thought he would be, especially when you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>game that he had against who did you play against Clemson?

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<v Speaker 1>You look at that game and he had against Clemson,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was sensational. Yeah and and and I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now playing with those guys that he had alive and

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett Wilson and all those guys. We understand, see see,

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<v Speaker 1>but you didn't realize once you get to the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>the likelihood of you having five receivers that are five

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<v Speaker 1>stars or or be that type of guy that the

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<v Speaker 1>likelihood is not very good. Yeah. Does he have a Chase? No?

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<v Speaker 1>Does he have a Jetta? Does he have any of

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<v Speaker 1>the top top receivers. No?

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<v Speaker 3>Not. Now what I will say, Now, what I will say,

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<v Speaker 3>he does have Garrett Wilson.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Garrett Wilson, who was who had a phenomenal who

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<v Speaker 3>had a phenomenal rookie year.

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<v Speaker 1>With facts that if you look at him, O Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at him, if you just put him

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<v Speaker 1>on paper and you say, look at what was throwing

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<v Speaker 1>the Garrett Wilson when he won Offensive Rookie of the Year,

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<v Speaker 1>and you look at what's throwing the Garrett Wilson. Now

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<v Speaker 1>if you just look on just hey, you're like man

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<v Speaker 1>with Justin Fields. He about to go and he played

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<v Speaker 1>with him in college.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, I mean I mean, listen, jud

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<v Speaker 3>Garrett Wilson is a phenomenal talent. Nothing should taper off

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<v Speaker 3>when you have a talent like that it's so easy

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<v Speaker 3>when you look at what they're able to do with

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<v Speaker 3>Devonte Adams and and pooping the cop hell JSN And

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<v Speaker 3>obviously I don't think the Jets offensive coordinator has that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of creativity to put in you and Justin Justin Field,

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<v Speaker 3>to use Garrett Wilson in the right type of way

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<v Speaker 3>to create those mismatches like the other team.

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<v Speaker 1>I can give you all the nice ingredients, I won't,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you got can't cook, what the hell have

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<v Speaker 1>I done. I spent a whole lot of money on

0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:01.920
<v Speaker 1>going great foods, great ingredients, and I know you can't

0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:05.760
<v Speaker 1>make a dish with it. It comes down to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Joe, you're really good. Go look at Chopped and

0:22:09.600 --> 0:22:12.840
<v Speaker 1>the Iron Chef and they get these they get these people. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give you chocolate. I'm gonna give you onions.

0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give you stone crabs. And I'm like, how

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<v Speaker 1>did you even think of this? Yes? But you give somebody,

0:22:23.920 --> 0:22:25.840
<v Speaker 1>you give them all. Okay, I'm gonna give you steak.

0:22:25.920 --> 0:22:27.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give you this. I'm gonna give you that,

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<v Speaker 1>And You're like, what I'm what I'm supposed to make?

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<v Speaker 1>I just I hope I'm wrong, chat, I really do,

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<v Speaker 1>But I just I just and I've seen him and

0:22:40.680 --> 0:22:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I've watched him. Now, this man has gone through three

0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:46.840
<v Speaker 1>head coaches and probably four offensive coordinators. And I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>and and and and and and sometimes you get lucky

0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:51.960
<v Speaker 1>and you get to you get a Sean mcvail, or

0:22:51.960 --> 0:22:55.600
<v Speaker 1>you get a Kyle shan a hand but I just don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't know it, because at the end of

0:22:56.960 --> 0:22:59.159
<v Speaker 1>the day, the quarterback position is all about process and

0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:01.840
<v Speaker 1>information and then and spitting in the back out. That's

0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:04.800
<v Speaker 1>what it comes down to, it is. I mean, I

0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:06.920
<v Speaker 1>don't care how good, how big your arm is, I

0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:09.800
<v Speaker 1>don't care how fast your legs are. Can you process it?

0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:14.240
<v Speaker 1>O choe mm hmmm, Because that's that's a whole different bay,

0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:18.240
<v Speaker 1>because not only make you process, you gotta realize they

0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:20.680
<v Speaker 1>got they got fight that on most occasions they got

0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:23.440
<v Speaker 1>four guys that's really trying to tear your damn head off.

0:23:24.160 --> 0:23:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh so you got you in fear for your life.

0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:30.600
<v Speaker 1>But also you gotta calm yourself down and says you

0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:35.720
<v Speaker 1>know what, one to check down, one to throw it

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<v Speaker 1>out of bounds, one to if that I'm out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, mhm, it's all. It's all about that.

0:23:43.880 --> 0:23:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Maybe maybe maybe put him in, maybe put him in

0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:49.199
<v Speaker 1>hurry up the game, because it seems like, you know,

0:23:49.880 --> 0:23:54.719
<v Speaker 1>when he's in hurry up, he's better. Yeah. Yeah, and

0:23:54.720 --> 0:23:58.960
<v Speaker 1>then fumble. Yeah, I mean.

0:23:58.880 --> 0:24:00.840
<v Speaker 3>Unless that that's on the set. That's on the center too,

0:24:00.880 --> 0:24:02.600
<v Speaker 3>that's on the city. Come on, now, that's the NFL.

0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:05.480
<v Speaker 3>Now put the put put the snap at the It

0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:08.720
<v Speaker 3>should be the snap. The snap should come in the

0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:11.600
<v Speaker 3>same area every single time you go through your dog.

0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:14.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean like, come on now, come on, center, don't

0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:16.000
<v Speaker 3>don't at that.

0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Don't do that.

0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:20.680
<v Speaker 3>I love man that the ball hit it, the ball

0:24:20.760 --> 0:24:21.680
<v Speaker 3>hit his ankles.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what, it's just that, you know, take that,

0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:27.760
<v Speaker 1>take that, Take that away. They got three points out

0:24:27.760 --> 0:24:30.000
<v Speaker 1>of there. Give the defense credit because I thought the

0:24:30.000 --> 0:24:33.240
<v Speaker 1>defense gave up one touchdowns and two field goals in

0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:36.280
<v Speaker 1>the second half. Yeah, they did force the three and

0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:39.160
<v Speaker 1>out on the on the first possession of the second half,

0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:42.560
<v Speaker 1>which is kudos. Uh. You know, you see, I think

0:24:42.600 --> 0:24:44.760
<v Speaker 1>the Jets won the toss and they took the ball.

0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:47.239
<v Speaker 1>They drove the ball right down the field, something they

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:48.600
<v Speaker 1>don't normally don't do.

0:24:49.400 --> 0:24:49.560
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:53.159
<v Speaker 1>It normally ends in a punt or or turnover and

0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:54.640
<v Speaker 1>they drove the ball. I think they had the ball

0:24:54.720 --> 0:24:56.720
<v Speaker 1>like fourteen plays and drove the ball and punched it

0:24:56.760 --> 0:25:00.520
<v Speaker 1>in the end zone. But I just, Lord Hope, I'm wrong,

0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:02.840
<v Speaker 1>But I just, I just I just don't see where

0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:06.359
<v Speaker 1>he's ever gonna be more than what he is. I

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:09.040
<v Speaker 1>don't think he's ever gonna be turning to what and

0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:11.199
<v Speaker 1>that's what. And that's okay because everybody ain't gonna be

0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:13.920
<v Speaker 1>a Lamar Jackson. Everybody's not gonna be Josh Allon or

0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Patrick Mahome. But I mean, I think if the Jets

0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:19.600
<v Speaker 1>could be okay, if he was just like middle of

0:25:19.640 --> 0:25:21.800
<v Speaker 1>the road, you just can't be you can't be the

0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:24.120
<v Speaker 1>bottom tier. I'm not saying you got to be top tier,

0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:26.239
<v Speaker 1>but I mean, if we got that kind of if

0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:28.200
<v Speaker 1>we got Chad you can see this, if we got

0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:30.800
<v Speaker 1>this much face, can you be somewhere.

0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:33.440
<v Speaker 3>In here and not be down here in the middle, right?

0:25:34.560 --> 0:25:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Can we get that? O? Joe? Mm hmm. You know

0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:39.000
<v Speaker 1>it all?

0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:41.080
<v Speaker 3>You know what else? It all comes down to not

0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:43.679
<v Speaker 3>only all not only all the intangibles and all the

0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 3>all the nuances that we're talking about. But unless you

0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 3>got confidence, hut, ain't nothing happening. You got to be

0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:53.640
<v Speaker 3>able to play with confidence. You have to be able

0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:55.800
<v Speaker 3>to play with confidence and and everything that you do.

0:25:55.920 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 3>And one of the most important positions, damn, quarterback is

0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:04.960
<v Speaker 3>the most important, absolutely the most the most because if.

0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:10.080
<v Speaker 1>You don't believe your your your body language, yeah, your

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:12.840
<v Speaker 1>aura is gonna say if you don't believe, I don't

0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:16.840
<v Speaker 1>believe either. M hmm. I mean, if you don't trust

0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:19.920
<v Speaker 1>your skill, why you won't me. That's why you used

0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:21.679
<v Speaker 1>to get in the car that joke somebody built. But

0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:24.679
<v Speaker 1>the seatbelt fast the seatbelt, Hell, I faster, mind you

0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:30.600
<v Speaker 1>do something I don't so you can building you. I've

0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:34.920
<v Speaker 1>been around quarterbacks when they walk into the huddle. You know,

0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:37.879
<v Speaker 1>they do you the confidence that you know what the

0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:38.440
<v Speaker 1>hell you do.

0:26:38.440 --> 0:26:47.080
<v Speaker 3>It exactly, exactly exactly. I hope, I hope they get

0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:49.720
<v Speaker 3>it together. I'm not sure what direction they're gonna go in,

0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:51.960
<v Speaker 3>but the way they've started so far and letting the

0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:56.680
<v Speaker 3>soft go and letting go oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I wait, listen, but who are you Gonna're gonna're gonna

0:26:59.840 --> 0:27:00.359
<v Speaker 3>start over.

0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:00.640
<v Speaker 1>With the court.

0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:02.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I believe, So you're gonna start with, So you're

0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:04.560
<v Speaker 3>gonna draft another one. You're gonna draft it, I believe so.

0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Or I mean, I don't know if there's any any

0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:13.040
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks that's gonna become available. Uh yeah, probably Sam Donald

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:15.879
<v Speaker 1>didn't want any parts of New York again, which I

0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:19.160
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't blame him, you know. Uh, but look, I mean

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:21.919
<v Speaker 1>every day seemed like I hear a story about somebody

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:25.119
<v Speaker 1>that played there having an interaction with the owner, and

0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:30.840
<v Speaker 1>it's never positive and it's never good, right Yeah, And uh,

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:37.960
<v Speaker 1>with that situation, I hope ag gets at least three years,

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:40.719
<v Speaker 1>because it's not like you had to have a powerful

0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:42.720
<v Speaker 1>roster begin with. And now you stripped him of his

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 1>two best defensive players, so he got to get at

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:47.600
<v Speaker 1>least two years. And without a quarterback, you can give

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:49.080
<v Speaker 1>him five years. And he's still not gonna get it

0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:54.159
<v Speaker 1>done because you're not. It's hard, it's damn near impossible.

0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:56.240
<v Speaker 1>And I know, ja well, y'all did it in twenty

0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:58.360
<v Speaker 1>two thousands with the raid with Trend Dilfer. They don't

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:01.720
<v Speaker 1>allow you to play football like that. You don't play

0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:05.640
<v Speaker 1>football like that anymore. The rules are different. So no, Hey,

0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:09.000
<v Speaker 1>there's nobody winning another Super Bowl like we won it

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 1>or like Tampa won it in O two. You're not

0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:14.919
<v Speaker 1>because they won't allow you to play defense like that.

0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:17.199
<v Speaker 1>Your quarterback is gonna have to stand in the pocket

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 1>and he's gonna have to make plays throwing the f

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:21.879
<v Speaker 1>and football. Yeah, he's gonna be able to use his

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 1>legs to get out of harm's way some but he's

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:26.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to be able to throw the football. The

0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 1>days of oh, we got to kill a defense and

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna run the ball. No, you're not. No, No,

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:33.359
<v Speaker 1>you're not.

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:35.080
<v Speaker 3>You're not. You're not gonna. You're not gonna win very

0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:37.439
<v Speaker 3>many games like that because once the team gets ahead

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:39.960
<v Speaker 3>on you, once the team gets ahead on you ten

0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 3>fourteen points.

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 1>And you can't run your way back into a game.

0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 3>Absolute.

0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this, O Joe, do you like

0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Kyler Murray because I believe there's I believe there's gonna

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 1>be a separation of church in state in Arizona.

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:56.520
<v Speaker 3>Uh huh, Yeah, most definitely. Because I think Kyler Murray

0:28:56.600 --> 0:28:59.479
<v Speaker 3>is healthy. I think me personally, I think he's healthy.

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:01.680
<v Speaker 3>But they're continuing to want to go with the Kobe

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:04.400
<v Speaker 3>Brissett based on how he look and how the offense

0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 3>moved with him, you know, the few weeks he's been

0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:11.320
<v Speaker 3>in Uh, if they do part ways with him, I'm

0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:13.120
<v Speaker 3>sure Kyler Murray will be somewhere.

0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Else next year for sure.

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 3>How how would it look over in New York I'm

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 3>not sure. I'm not sure if if it's a fit.

0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:25.040
<v Speaker 3>It all depends on AG. Obviously. Outside of AG, you

0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 3>you got to go to the higher powers and see

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:28.880
<v Speaker 3>if that's all yeah, they want to look into or

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 3>do you want to go into the draft?

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Now?

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 3>When you when you think about some of the quarterbacks

0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 3>coming into the draft, you know this year, is there

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:37.600
<v Speaker 3>a franchise altering quarterback that can come in there and

0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:41.200
<v Speaker 3>change the franchise. I haven't seen anything like that this year.

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 3>There have been some that have played good, but nothing

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 3>that just blows you out the water, like you know,

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:47.840
<v Speaker 3>with that guy, we got to have him.

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:48.240
<v Speaker 1>I agree.

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:49.440
<v Speaker 3>I haven't seen that. I haven't seen it.

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen it. So we'll see how this plays out.

0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 1>O Jo Mike Rable was apparently very close to landing

0:29:55.920 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 1>the Jets job before the Patriot job Open Reporter Connor

0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:02.400
<v Speaker 1>heugh e'splaying that New York England hadn't fired Girard Mail

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:05.800
<v Speaker 1>following its four and thirteen season. He believed Brabil would

0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 1>have been the helm of the New York right now,

0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:10.560
<v Speaker 1>and truthfully, he was interested in the Jets as the

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Jets were interested in him. If the Patriot's job hadn't opened,

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:17.400
<v Speaker 1>I genuinely believed that Brabil would have been going to

0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:21.040
<v Speaker 1>take the job. They wanted Mike Brabel more than anything else.

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:23.080
<v Speaker 1>So that's when he was the only way to take

0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 1>the Patriots job. They made the last second call. Is

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 1>anything we can do to give you the job full control,

0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 1>more money? What do you want more? What more can

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 1>we do to change your mind? O Jo? Yeah, if

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:41.200
<v Speaker 1>you interviewed him, you should have. He should have never

0:30:41.280 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 1>left your building. You should have.

0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 3>Hey, listen, you got to do that. You got to understand,

0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:50.000
<v Speaker 3>you got to understand a coach like that, which is

0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:53.280
<v Speaker 3>why mister Crabb did with Yes, this is why mister

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 3>Crabb did. He understood, he understood the assignmon ain't nowhere

0:30:56.880 --> 0:31:00.280
<v Speaker 3>in hell we have a quarterback. I think he just

0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:02.880
<v Speaker 3>had the right person in charge, you know, with a

0:31:02.920 --> 0:31:05.640
<v Speaker 3>little structure, with a little discipline, that can then and

0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:08.680
<v Speaker 3>instill that Patriot way, you know. Graw Mayo I think

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:10.960
<v Speaker 3>was well capable of doing so. They just didn't play

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:13.760
<v Speaker 3>well for Grawd Mayo for for whatever reason, I don't know,

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 3>but the team looked completely different under the tutelage of goddamn.

0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Micro different teams.

0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:22.600
<v Speaker 3>Hey don't I don't know why, but listen. I don't

0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 3>think Mike Raby would have had success in New York anyway.

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 3>He wouldn't have had success. Hell, if you're gonna have success,

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:29.840
<v Speaker 3>if you couldn't do it in Tennessee, you damn she

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 3>won't be.

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Able to do in New York. I think I think

0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Tennessee got with him prematurely. That's what I think. I

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:40.520
<v Speaker 1>think the thing you don't listen today, like he and

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:44.880
<v Speaker 1>and and the owners started butting head you know, you

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 1>know A and yeah, and uh, you know, I guarantee

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 1>she wish she had Mike Brabel. Now she's finding out.

0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:56.760
<v Speaker 1>She's finding out the hard way. Yes, she's finding out

0:31:56.760 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 1>the hard way. I think the thing is like when

0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 1>you're when you're in that type of position, you're in

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 1>ownership and you're a leadership, the one thing you can't

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 1>be is impulsive, get mad, you fired. You can't do it,

0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 1>even though sometimes I understand that you want you might

0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 1>want to. You're never working this industry again, right, Brabel

0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 1>had I mean think about it. And then they they

0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:29.640
<v Speaker 1>they they let Derrick Henry go and they ended up

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 1>trading A J. Brown.

0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:38.640
<v Speaker 3>Yes, listen, horrible decision by A J. Wanted out, but

0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:40.040
<v Speaker 3>they were making horrible decisions.

0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 1>They would.

0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:44.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah that that too, but the trade was to try

0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 3>and better they team. Let's see what we can get

0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 3>for him and see if we can improve our team.

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:49.920
<v Speaker 3>They drafted brother Trailing.

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:53.240
<v Speaker 1>Burks, who was supposed to I think got my chemra

0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:53.720
<v Speaker 1>cut off.

0:32:55.640 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean that that that didn't pan out. That

0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:01.520
<v Speaker 3>didn't pan out too well. So, I mean it's just

0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:04.800
<v Speaker 3>they've been making some bad business decisions when it comes

0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 3>to not only players, but the coaches. Yes, the coaches,

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:10.720
<v Speaker 3>well you have you have a super Bowl winning coach

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:12.479
<v Speaker 3>that knows what it takes to win. He knows how

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 3>to bill a team, obviously coming from the New Way,

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 3>the page Away, coming from England. You know what I

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 3>have the formula, I know what it takes. It's not

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 3>gonna be the snap of a finger. And you can't

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:27.600
<v Speaker 3>just take money and throw money at it. I need

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 3>time now and with that time, I need you to

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:33.160
<v Speaker 3>give me a quarterback. If you give me a quarterback,

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:34.080
<v Speaker 3>I'll take care.

0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 1>Of the rest.

0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:37.360
<v Speaker 3>He goes New England. He has a quarterback. Okay, you

0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:39.960
<v Speaker 3>know what, Now we set we have a franchise quarterback

0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:42.680
<v Speaker 3>for the next ten to fifteen years. Now, mister Kraft,

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:45.200
<v Speaker 3>let me, let me do the rest. Let me do

0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 3>the rest. So what we see from the Patriots right now,

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 3>we finish, see this for the next ten.

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Twelve fifty for sure, because the one thing that you

0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:55.800
<v Speaker 1>know about mister Kraft is that he'll get he'll step

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:59.000
<v Speaker 1>out of the way. Yeah, step out of the way. Now.

0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:01.760
<v Speaker 1>Do I think he has more in common with Brabel

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:04.640
<v Speaker 1>than he did Coach Belichick? Yes, I do. I think

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I think under normal circumstances, mister Craft and Coach Belichick

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:13.319
<v Speaker 1>probably with have butted heads. But in a situation like

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:16.960
<v Speaker 1>where we're in, O Joe, I'm gonna hey, I'm mining

0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:23.880
<v Speaker 1>goal and we're still finding it. Yeah, and now if

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Brabel takes that job and they can entice Sam Donald

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:29.880
<v Speaker 1>to come back, because I do think Sam Donald says, Okay,

0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:32.920
<v Speaker 1>here's a coach that has control. I ain't got to

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't gotta worry about ownership. I ain't got to

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:40.759
<v Speaker 1>worry about no general manager. Mike Brabel got controlled. I'm

0:34:40.760 --> 0:34:43.800
<v Speaker 1>not saying he has as much control, but I believe

0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 1>who's the general manager didn't he didn't didn't the general

0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:50.880
<v Speaker 1>manager come back with Brabel? Yeah, because at the end

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:53.640
<v Speaker 1>of the day, O Joe, some people take jobs, and

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:55.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm just happy to have a job. They ain't got

0:34:55.280 --> 0:34:56.839
<v Speaker 1>no sale over to fifty three, they got no silver

0:34:56.960 --> 0:35:01.439
<v Speaker 1>fifty free agency. They ain't got no say over to Drayt. Yeah.

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:04.040
<v Speaker 3>That that's hard. That's hard. That's hard to be a coach.

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 1>Or was he already there? I know you got great.

0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Brabel more than likely has sale over fifty three and

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:15.880
<v Speaker 1>has some say draft because he knows what he wants.

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:18.400
<v Speaker 1>He knows the type of player, he knows the system

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:21.239
<v Speaker 1>that he's trying to run. He knows the type of

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 1>player that he needs to fit set. That's why Coach

0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Belichick a lot of times when he drafted players, he

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't work them out himself, but he needed to talk

0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:31.680
<v Speaker 1>to because the thing is, you can't have a big

0:35:31.719 --> 0:35:35.279
<v Speaker 1>ego and play for coach Belichick because you say, what

0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:38.520
<v Speaker 1>do Nah, you gotta leave your ego at home, because see,

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:40.840
<v Speaker 1>if you check it at the door, you might anybody

0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:43.399
<v Speaker 1>to look and go back and get it. Yeah.

0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:46.160
<v Speaker 3>Nah, that ain't gonna work. No, that it ain't gonna

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 3>matter of fact, it's it's not gonna work with Rabel,

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:51.399
<v Speaker 3>absolutely not. Hey, look, hey, hold on, what's the first

0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:53.399
<v Speaker 3>thing we said about Stephan Diggs. What's the first thing

0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 3>everyone says about Stefan Diggs. Well, hell, he looks like

0:35:56.120 --> 0:36:00.319
<v Speaker 3>a whole different person. He seemed like a whole different person. No,

0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:03.520
<v Speaker 3>thats just when you walk in that door in New England,

0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:06.319
<v Speaker 3>and just something about that atmosphere. They always talk about

0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 3>the Patriot Way, and so I can't explain it.

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:09.359
<v Speaker 1>I was there.

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:12.000
<v Speaker 3>It's just the the or the atmosphere.

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:13.759
<v Speaker 1>Just you you.

0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 3>Check yourself down.

0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 1>The standard is the standard automatically.

0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:20.760
<v Speaker 3>You just do it.

0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Is that your sound on my sound not? Can you

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:27.480
<v Speaker 1>speak of that? Your mind was moving? I hear nothing.

0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:30.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh, my bad, My bad, My bad. You know you

0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:33.000
<v Speaker 3>know I be talking so goddamn fast man, My bad.

0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but uh man, I look, the Patriot's gonna be

0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:41.279
<v Speaker 1>good for a long time. And what we thought was

0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:43.879
<v Speaker 1>a foregone conclusion that Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:46.040
<v Speaker 1>is gonna run this division for the next ten years.

0:36:46.200 --> 0:36:48.000
<v Speaker 1>That's not gonna be the change. It's gonna be a

0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 1>dog fight this division. It's gonna be a dog fight

0:36:51.560 --> 0:36:56.240
<v Speaker 1>this division. Between two teams, Oh for sure. Between between

0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:59.279
<v Speaker 1>two teams, it's gonna always. It's gonna be always for

0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:02.279
<v Speaker 1>the next decade. It's gonna be the Patriots or the

0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:10.360
<v Speaker 1>goddamn Bills. I agree. Oh not your guppies. Who guppies?

0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:14.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, listen, listen, listen. The Dolphins and the Jets

0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:16.319
<v Speaker 3>are in the same boat. Then it's only because they

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 3>finish scrap. They finish scrapping and clean house too.

0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:23.319
<v Speaker 1>They are oh joe. Bleacher Report ranks his five most

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:27.120
<v Speaker 1>overrated quarterbacks. They named Lamar Jackson as the most overrated

0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 1>quarterback in the NFL, said he may not just be

0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:35.400
<v Speaker 1>one today's most overrated active quarterbacks, but also of all time.

0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:39.880
<v Speaker 1>His two time MVP status is borderline fraudulent. His credentials

0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:42.520
<v Speaker 1>don't measure up to other leisures who've won the award

0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:46.080
<v Speaker 1>on numerous occasions. Of the ten players that have joined

0:37:46.160 --> 0:37:49.480
<v Speaker 1>multiple MVP clubs during the Super Bowl era, Jackson is

0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:52.440
<v Speaker 1>the lone member without a Super Bowl ring. All The

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:56.279
<v Speaker 1>others on that list include Johnny uniteds Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers,

0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady, Brett Farb, Joe Montano, Steve Young, Kurt Warner,

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:03.280
<v Speaker 1>Patrick Mahomes were able to take their team to multiple

0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:07.759
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl appearances and one at least once. Jackson has

0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:09.680
<v Speaker 1>yet to even reach the Big Game. He's three and

0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:12.879
<v Speaker 1>five lifetime in playoffs and has a three seventy five

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:17.279
<v Speaker 1>postseason winning percentage that stands far away the worst among

0:38:17.400 --> 0:38:20.600
<v Speaker 1>multiple MVP winners. First of all, Steve Young did not

0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:23.320
<v Speaker 1>take no team to multiple MVPs. He was a backup.

0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 1>He took his team to one Super Bowl and he

0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:29.120
<v Speaker 1>did win it. That was in nineteen ninety four. He

0:38:29.160 --> 0:38:32.560
<v Speaker 1>threw six touchdowns in Miami to beat the Chargers. So

0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:36.239
<v Speaker 1>let's yeah, I like to give context. Steve Young did

0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:42.480
<v Speaker 1>not go to multiple Super Bowls now. Also, if I'm

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:46.479
<v Speaker 1>not mistaken, I think Earl Morrill didn't Earl Morrills start

0:38:46.480 --> 0:39:06.200
<v Speaker 1>one of those Super Bowl for the Coats. Oh, you

0:39:06.239 --> 0:39:16.920
<v Speaker 1>had a two? Johnny United did the Earl? Yeah, Miami,

0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:24.719
<v Speaker 1>Johnny Johnny went to two two. Uh coach went went

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:28.040
<v Speaker 1>to two Super Bowls. I know they beat the Cowboys

0:39:28.160 --> 0:39:29.120
<v Speaker 1>on the field goal.

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:46.960
<v Speaker 5>There, Oh Johnny, Yeah, okay, okay, look.

0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I get it. Yes, and and oh Joe, we talked

0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 1>about this. This is the the albatross. This is the

0:39:56.560 --> 0:39:59.359
<v Speaker 1>elephant in the room. You see the names that are

0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:04.160
<v Speaker 1>on this list that of one multiple MVPs, Lamar is

0:40:04.200 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 1>the only one that hasn't been to a Super Bowl.

0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:08.799
<v Speaker 1>That's not to say, oh Joe, his career is not

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:15.480
<v Speaker 1>ending tomorrow, but everybody jumped on me when I said

0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:17.920
<v Speaker 1>his career will be looked at it as a disappointment

0:40:18.200 --> 0:40:21.360
<v Speaker 1>if he doesn't get to a Super Bowl considering what

0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:24.440
<v Speaker 1>he had accomplished. You basical it on what these other

0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:27.320
<v Speaker 1>guys see. You can't just look, well, he won two MVPs.

0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:29.600
<v Speaker 1>You got to look at the company that he's in.

0:40:30.400 --> 0:40:34.000
<v Speaker 1>That's one two MVPs. Now you start looking at it,

0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:37.400
<v Speaker 1>you're like, well, damn, he has to get to one.

0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:40.719
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers went to one. He has to get to

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:45.160
<v Speaker 1>at least one. And then we look at him totally different.

0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:48.719
<v Speaker 1>He gets the one and he wins it, we look

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:50.799
<v Speaker 1>at him differently. Ojo, we just do.

0:40:50.920 --> 0:40:54.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely, But yeah, listen, I understand the company to

0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:56.839
<v Speaker 3>keep the fact that he's won two MVPs, the fact

0:40:56.840 --> 0:40:58.520
<v Speaker 3>that he's one of those MVPs, those that in the

0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:00.279
<v Speaker 3>chat that are listening, that are watching, you have to

0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:02.840
<v Speaker 3>understand that he's in a different CLEAs in the class

0:41:02.840 --> 0:41:04.799
<v Speaker 3>of his own, in a different class for that matter.

0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:07.520
<v Speaker 3>So when it comes to judging him, he judged based

0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:11.440
<v Speaker 3>off his his what he's not cam Padre's what's the

0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:15.360
<v Speaker 3>world I'm looking for pep and the company his peers.

0:41:14.840 --> 0:41:18.239
<v Speaker 3>He judged based on his other peers that have want

0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:20.880
<v Speaker 3>MVP's as well, and most of them, if not all,

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:23.200
<v Speaker 3>have been to a Super Bowl, whether they want a

0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:25.839
<v Speaker 3>Super Bowl or not, So he judg off of that.

0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:28.279
<v Speaker 3>But the whole overrated part is the part I don't like.

0:41:28.840 --> 0:41:30.840
<v Speaker 3>That's the part I don't like saying that he's overrated

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:33.080
<v Speaker 3>because he hadn't gotten there yet when he's still playing

0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:35.399
<v Speaker 3>and only a seventh maybe eighth year, I'm not sure

0:41:35.400 --> 0:41:36.080
<v Speaker 3>which one it is.

0:41:36.360 --> 0:41:40.760
<v Speaker 1>It's ridiculous that nothing about Lamar's first year.

0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:44.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, but but nothing about Lamar Jackson and what

0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:46.840
<v Speaker 3>he brings to the table, what he brings to the NFL,

0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:49.560
<v Speaker 3>what he bring to the Baltimore Ravens in general and

0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:52.600
<v Speaker 3>giving them a chance and having him a contention every

0:41:52.640 --> 0:41:55.959
<v Speaker 3>goddamn year. Nothing about that is overrated. That's the part

0:41:56.000 --> 0:41:58.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't like. Now that is more to me, it's

0:41:58.480 --> 0:42:01.080
<v Speaker 3>more clickbait. There should be a differ, different title when

0:42:01.080 --> 0:42:03.160
<v Speaker 3>it comes to talk about the quarterbacks that have won

0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:06.080
<v Speaker 3>MVPs and have been or won a Super Bowl. That

0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:09.319
<v Speaker 3>the title should be goddamn different, overrated, my goddamn mad.

0:42:09.520 --> 0:42:10.840
<v Speaker 3>Now that that's a bunch of bullshit.

0:42:11.080 --> 0:42:13.440
<v Speaker 1>Let me ask your question. But when you looking at

0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:16.120
<v Speaker 1>him him, you but to here's the thing they're not seeing.

0:42:16.200 --> 0:42:18.799
<v Speaker 1>You're looking at him against his peers. They're looking at

0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:22.520
<v Speaker 1>him against his peers that have won two MVPs. So

0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:25.120
<v Speaker 1>when you look at him, look at the clans that

0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:30.480
<v Speaker 1>he's in. You compare him to my home boy two MVPs,

0:42:31.080 --> 0:42:34.440
<v Speaker 1>five super Bowl appearances, three wins. You're looking at Peyton

0:42:34.440 --> 0:42:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Manning five MVPs, three super Bowl appearances, two wins. You

0:42:39.040 --> 0:42:43.280
<v Speaker 1>look at Tom Brake, move on, you look at Yeah,

0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:47.000
<v Speaker 1>you look at brand Fat. How about how about this?

0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:51.200
<v Speaker 3>Everybody on that list, everybody on the list except one person,

0:42:51.840 --> 0:42:54.960
<v Speaker 3>is already done and not playing any correct. Everybody on

0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:56.760
<v Speaker 3>the list is done and not playing. So how about

0:42:56.800 --> 0:43:00.920
<v Speaker 3>we wait until he's done playing, and then we justify

0:43:01.400 --> 0:43:03.479
<v Speaker 3>whether he belongs in that company or not, or whether

0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:05.640
<v Speaker 3>he's overrated or not. And even if he doesn't go

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:08.400
<v Speaker 3>to a goddamned super Bowl, what he's going to continue

0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:11.360
<v Speaker 3>to do the resume that he's gonna put together whether

0:43:11.400 --> 0:43:14.080
<v Speaker 3>he wins three more MVPs and doesn't make a goddamn

0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:17.000
<v Speaker 3>super Bowl or not, nothing about Lamar Jackson is overrated.

0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:20.880
<v Speaker 3>I know the fact that the way we judge quarterbacks

0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:24.200
<v Speaker 3>is based on wins and losses and rings and hardware

0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:26.520
<v Speaker 3>and all that, But when it comes down to the

0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:29.440
<v Speaker 3>nitty gritty where you're talking to people that played the game,

0:43:29.920 --> 0:43:32.719
<v Speaker 3>forget forget the media, forget the pundits, forget those that

0:43:32.880 --> 0:43:36.480
<v Speaker 3>never played the game. Nothing about young bull out of

0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 3>goddamned Pompino, who played for Boy and Beach High School

0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:42.440
<v Speaker 3>is overrated. Whether he has a goddamn ring or not,

0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:45.920
<v Speaker 3>he will still go down as one of the best, the

0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:51.200
<v Speaker 3>best quarterbacks that ever play this goddamn game. How do

0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:53.759
<v Speaker 3>we judge Damn Marino? Do we say Damn Marinos not

0:43:53.800 --> 0:43:54.840
<v Speaker 3>winning the great because.

0:43:57.800 --> 0:44:01.920
<v Speaker 1>G R E. A. T. Great. Now if we add

0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:08.600
<v Speaker 1>s t one of the greatests, a's what he's going for.

0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:12.239
<v Speaker 1>You see, you said something very interesting and this is

0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:16.319
<v Speaker 1>and this is actually true. Only quarterbacks getting measured by

0:44:16.320 --> 0:44:19.600
<v Speaker 1>wins and Super Bowl, no other, no other position. Super

0:44:19.600 --> 0:44:23.719
<v Speaker 1>Bowls matter, right, not like they do for a quarterback

0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:27.759
<v Speaker 1>because oh cho, even when when Brady wasn't putting up

0:44:27.840 --> 0:44:30.799
<v Speaker 1>numbers like Peyton Manning, they said he was better than

0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Manning because what did he have that Manning didn't? Championships?

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:41.120
<v Speaker 1>Think about it now, Peyton Manning had won multiple multiple MVPs.

0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Brady had three Super Bowls. Manning had three regular season MVPs.

0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:52.880
<v Speaker 1>They say, well, Brady's better because Brady has as you

0:44:53.000 --> 0:44:55.840
<v Speaker 1>was pointing to your fingers, that's how they, Oh, I

0:44:55.920 --> 0:44:58.880
<v Speaker 1>don't sit the rules. You see what happened with ring culture.

0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:03.080
<v Speaker 1>You see what is it done? It'll make people jump

0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:05.719
<v Speaker 1>around and go try to find the best situation where

0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:08.279
<v Speaker 1>they can win a ring, and then they shut you up,

0:45:08.640 --> 0:45:11.000
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, okay, I've already done what I needed

0:45:11.000 --> 0:45:11.279
<v Speaker 1>to do.

0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:15.759
<v Speaker 3>Now they no more argument and no more argument at

0:45:15.760 --> 0:45:17.920
<v Speaker 3>that point, Especially when it comes to basketball, you have

0:45:18.040 --> 0:45:20.600
<v Speaker 3>those that that that have to chase the ring because

0:45:20.600 --> 0:45:24.200
<v Speaker 3>of ring culture in the rules, the unwritten rules. Matter

0:45:24.239 --> 0:45:26.359
<v Speaker 3>of fact, how about that the unwritten rules? Because who

0:45:26.360 --> 0:45:27.000
<v Speaker 3>the hell came.

0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Up with it? I don't know. Because they were saying,

0:45:30.920 --> 0:45:33.480
<v Speaker 1>they were saying Jordan was better than Magic, and Magic

0:45:33.560 --> 0:45:37.080
<v Speaker 1>had five rings. They were saying, but Jordan was better

0:45:37.080 --> 0:45:40.200
<v Speaker 1>than Bird, and Bird had three m vps in three rings.

0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:43.319
<v Speaker 1>He had, he's the last guy to win three consecutive MVPs.

0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:47.480
<v Speaker 1>You gotta go all the way back to wild. So

0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:52.759
<v Speaker 1>what has happened is that now I give you another one.

0:45:54.480 --> 0:45:56.120
<v Speaker 1>The next couple of years, people gonna say s Shelle

0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:58.640
<v Speaker 1>way A Tani is the greatest basketball player we've ever seen.

0:45:58.960 --> 0:46:03.439
<v Speaker 1>He's got four m He's got him unanimously, He's got

0:46:03.440 --> 0:46:06.160
<v Speaker 1>two super he got two World Series wings, O Joe.

0:46:06.760 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 1>He had one of the great postseason performers where he

0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:13.080
<v Speaker 1>struck out ten and hit three home runs. Now he

0:46:13.120 --> 0:46:15.880
<v Speaker 1>messed around and get another one and win another World Series?

0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Who we who? What? We?

0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Who?

0:46:18.080 --> 0:46:21.719
<v Speaker 1>What we gonna compare him to because we with for

0:46:22.000 --> 0:46:23.399
<v Speaker 1>MVP unanimously.

0:46:24.760 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's that's crazy.

0:46:27.520 --> 0:46:32.160
<v Speaker 1>So you see, once you start and Barry Barnes was

0:46:32.239 --> 0:46:35.759
<v Speaker 1>so great, even everybody that played against him, said that

0:46:35.880 --> 0:46:39.560
<v Speaker 1>is the greatest player that I've ever seen. Greg Maddick said, well,

0:46:39.719 --> 0:46:42.200
<v Speaker 1>it was it really easy to pick the Barry if

0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:47.319
<v Speaker 1>it mattered you walked him. He said, his job was

0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:51.719
<v Speaker 1>to get twenty seven hours. You ain'tn't get him on him,

0:46:51.960 --> 0:46:54.840
<v Speaker 1>So pick the other eight guys to get and figure

0:46:54.920 --> 0:47:00.719
<v Speaker 1>and figure it out. So when you look at oo, look,

0:47:01.000 --> 0:47:03.840
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to say a man a man like Lamar

0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:07.480
<v Speaker 1>And maybe you're right, maybe overrated is a harsh turn.

0:47:07.920 --> 0:47:10.239
<v Speaker 1>But I think if we they're looking they're looking at

0:47:10.239 --> 0:47:13.440
<v Speaker 1>it as the ten guys that have something that no

0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:16.160
<v Speaker 1>other guys have, and that is think about the NFL

0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:18.920
<v Speaker 1>going on, hold.

0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:20.480
<v Speaker 3>On, stay with me, staying me real quick. Now, So

0:47:20.600 --> 0:47:23.200
<v Speaker 3>if we if we talk about hard right and hardware,

0:47:23.440 --> 0:47:26.560
<v Speaker 3>hardware puts quarterbacks in a different and different in a

0:47:26.600 --> 0:47:30.560
<v Speaker 3>different year where we're not just great great is So

0:47:30.640 --> 0:47:34.080
<v Speaker 3>are we saying like Ben Rothlisberger belongs in that tier two?

0:47:34.160 --> 0:47:36.680
<v Speaker 3>Are we saying Russell Wilson also belongs in that tier two?

0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:38.959
<v Speaker 3>When we talk about quarterbacks that are the greatest because

0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:39.680
<v Speaker 3>they no no no.

0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:41.239
<v Speaker 1>No no no no no no no no no no

0:47:41.239 --> 0:47:43.840
<v Speaker 1>no no. But here's the thing, oh Joe, None of

0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:47.840
<v Speaker 1>these none of those guys have regular season MVPs. Okay,

0:47:48.040 --> 0:47:52.640
<v Speaker 1>oh so they're okay, there there, there's.

0:47:52.239 --> 0:47:53.640
<v Speaker 3>So we can't we can't, we can't move.

0:47:54.920 --> 0:47:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Let me ask your question. Has anybody ever said Ben

0:47:58.080 --> 0:48:05.839
<v Speaker 1>Roethlisberger's greater than Tom Brady? Peyton Manning. No, So, when

0:48:05.840 --> 0:48:08.439
<v Speaker 1>you so, when you look at it, and so when

0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:10.400
<v Speaker 1>you when you look at it, you have to have

0:48:10.520 --> 0:48:14.400
<v Speaker 1>regular season MVPs. That does matter. Now when you when

0:48:14.480 --> 0:48:17.799
<v Speaker 1>you start getting postseason MVPs, that means you won the

0:48:17.840 --> 0:48:23.680
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl. See you see Brady Brady Brady has three

0:48:23.719 --> 0:48:29.080
<v Speaker 1>regular season MVPs. He has seven Super Bowls and five

0:48:29.800 --> 0:48:33.279
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl MVPs. So no matter what criteria you use,

0:48:33.680 --> 0:48:37.120
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be hard for somebody to overtake him unless

0:48:37.280 --> 0:48:40.319
<v Speaker 1>my homeboy gets five MVPs. It's let's just say, for

0:48:40.320 --> 0:48:43.000
<v Speaker 1>the sake of art, we have a compelling case. If

0:48:43.040 --> 0:48:45.880
<v Speaker 1>my homeboy Mahon boys not even thirty. I think he

0:48:46.080 --> 0:48:52.440
<v Speaker 1>just turned thirty, yes, so, and and the thing, he

0:48:52.560 --> 0:48:54.640
<v Speaker 1>just turned thirty. So when you look at it, oh Joe,

0:48:54.640 --> 0:48:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I think that is the thing. They're they're comparing him

0:48:57.239 --> 0:49:01.480
<v Speaker 1>in this elite category elite, which is guys that have

0:49:01.560 --> 0:49:05.040
<v Speaker 1>won multiple m vps. It ain't that many quarterbacks. That's

0:49:05.040 --> 0:49:12.360
<v Speaker 1>one two, what is it? Uninis Manning, Rogers, Brady Farv Montana,

0:49:12.600 --> 0:49:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Young Warner, mahme, it's nine. Lamar makes ten. Yeah, he's

0:49:18.239 --> 0:49:21.160
<v Speaker 1>the only one that's never been to a super Bowl. Now,

0:49:21.400 --> 0:49:23.520
<v Speaker 1>if he doesn't get to a super Bowl, what are

0:49:23.520 --> 0:49:26.120
<v Speaker 1>they gonna say? Ojo? Be honest, you know what they're

0:49:26.120 --> 0:49:26.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna say.

0:49:27.080 --> 0:49:29.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We know what

0:49:29.200 --> 0:49:31.200
<v Speaker 3>they're gonna say. We know what they're gonna say. But

0:49:31.239 --> 0:49:34.640
<v Speaker 3>I listen, huh, I know what they're gonna say. But

0:49:34.719 --> 0:49:36.400
<v Speaker 3>I know what. My eyes haven't seen all he is,

0:49:36.400 --> 0:49:36.759
<v Speaker 3>I've seen.

0:49:37.680 --> 0:49:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Let me do you one better. They say, guys that

0:49:42.080 --> 0:49:44.920
<v Speaker 1>got super Bowl rings at the receiver position better than

0:49:45.000 --> 0:49:48.839
<v Speaker 1>Ojo because Ocho ain't got no rings. But you run

0:49:48.920 --> 0:49:51.840
<v Speaker 1>circles around them on the field. You see how they did?

0:49:52.080 --> 0:49:54.399
<v Speaker 1>See how they did? You see you see how they

0:49:54.400 --> 0:49:54.719
<v Speaker 1>did that?

0:49:55.840 --> 0:49:57.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I got you, I got listen, I'm with you

0:49:57.400 --> 0:50:01.440
<v Speaker 3>when you're right now, I'm picking up what saying. Yeah.

0:50:01.640 --> 0:50:04.680
<v Speaker 1>So now, so just imagine they do that for the receipt.

0:50:04.800 --> 0:50:06.959
<v Speaker 1>So imagine if a quarterback that's what I said.

0:50:07.160 --> 0:50:09.279
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, it's even, it's even, it's even worse. It's

0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:12.279
<v Speaker 3>even worse. Now. I hate that it's like that. I

0:50:12.320 --> 0:50:14.080
<v Speaker 3>hate that it's like that. It's it's somewhat of an

0:50:14.160 --> 0:50:16.360
<v Speaker 3>unwritten rule just like the unrul of hockey when it

0:50:16.360 --> 0:50:19.680
<v Speaker 3>comes to fighting, just like the unwritten unwritten rule in baseball.

0:50:19.960 --> 0:50:22.839
<v Speaker 3>Like I understand it. I hate that it's like that

0:50:22.880 --> 0:50:25.960
<v Speaker 3>hey ring culture when it comes to talking basketball, it

0:50:27.239 --> 0:50:29.840
<v Speaker 3>just does. Yeah, it matters, but that that's just the

0:50:29.840 --> 0:50:33.040
<v Speaker 3>way it is. But I mean, it is what it is.

0:50:33.239 --> 0:50:38.200
<v Speaker 3>I think I think with the way obviously they didn't

0:50:38.200 --> 0:50:39.640
<v Speaker 3>they didn't, they didn't have a good year, a good

0:50:39.680 --> 0:50:42.640
<v Speaker 3>start through the year. They obviously they still the Ravens.

0:50:43.440 --> 0:50:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah yeah. But I think they're gonna win

0:50:45.760 --> 0:50:47.600
<v Speaker 1>the division. I think they're gonna get a they're gonna

0:50:47.600 --> 0:50:48.359
<v Speaker 1>get a home game.

0:50:49.160 --> 0:50:49.800
<v Speaker 2>Whoa, whoa.

0:50:49.840 --> 0:50:52.919
<v Speaker 1>I think they're gonna wint about the division. So what about?

0:50:53.080 --> 0:50:54.800
<v Speaker 3>So what you think? What you think we're gonna do?

0:50:55.680 --> 0:50:57.840
<v Speaker 1>So you could do nothing?

0:50:58.320 --> 0:50:59.680
<v Speaker 3>Hold on, hold on, I'll tell you what I know.

0:50:59.719 --> 0:51:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I tell you what this is.

0:51:00.680 --> 0:51:03.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm very serious tonight. I'm very serious to night. But

0:51:04.120 --> 0:51:06.040
<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you this, I will give you guys a

0:51:06.080 --> 0:51:08.759
<v Speaker 3>division if we lose to the Steelers, which I doubt

0:51:08.840 --> 0:51:11.640
<v Speaker 3>we do. If we lose to the Steelers, I say,

0:51:11.680 --> 0:51:13.680
<v Speaker 3>you guys are probably gonna win the division at that point.

0:51:13.800 --> 0:51:16.239
<v Speaker 3>But if we go in there and we beat the Steelers,

0:51:16.480 --> 0:51:18.960
<v Speaker 3>that momentum, I tell you, I tell you what, that

0:51:19.080 --> 0:51:21.640
<v Speaker 3>momentum the rest of the season is gonna be hell.

0:51:21.719 --> 0:51:23.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't I don't give two you know what to

0:51:24.120 --> 0:51:26.480
<v Speaker 3>drop the dried up pigeon, you know what on concrete?

0:51:26.680 --> 0:51:33.680
<v Speaker 3>How bad our defense is that momentum? Offensively? Man, man, listen, man,

0:51:34.760 --> 0:51:37.839
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. It's gonna be tough. Now we if

0:51:37.880 --> 0:51:40.520
<v Speaker 3>we if we lose to the Steelers, I mean, that's it.

0:51:40.520 --> 0:51:41.000
<v Speaker 3>It's a rat.

0:51:41.239 --> 0:51:41.879
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, for sure.

0:51:41.920 --> 0:51:43.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean our seasons.

0:51:43.680 --> 0:51:46.279
<v Speaker 1>And so that's that's that's the thing, because you know,

0:51:46.320 --> 0:51:51.839
<v Speaker 1>you look at Lamar and it's it's tough because in

0:51:51.920 --> 0:51:57.120
<v Speaker 1>his era mm hm uh, he got my homes. There

0:51:57.120 --> 0:51:58.600
<v Speaker 1>are a lot of quarters. There are a lot of

0:51:58.600 --> 0:52:02.600
<v Speaker 1>people that's gonna get overlooked, just like they got overlooked.

0:52:02.840 --> 0:52:05.759
<v Speaker 1>Ben didn't get the credit he deserves. Drew Brees didn't

0:52:05.760 --> 0:52:08.240
<v Speaker 1>get the credit that they deserve. Because why they played

0:52:08.280 --> 0:52:11.480
<v Speaker 1>in the era with Smack Dawn, with Peyton Manning and

0:52:11.520 --> 0:52:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady and you're talking about guys that got eight

0:52:17.760 --> 0:52:23.279
<v Speaker 1>regular season MVPs and ten no, hell no, Tom is

0:52:23.920 --> 0:52:28.680
<v Speaker 1>nine and twelve super Bowl appearances with nine wins.

0:52:29.800 --> 0:52:32.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. God, that's crazy.

0:52:32.960 --> 0:52:35.360
<v Speaker 1>Man's crazy.

0:52:35.680 --> 0:52:39.000
<v Speaker 3>And it's you know, it's so funny too, is is

0:52:39.040 --> 0:52:42.320
<v Speaker 3>we've been spoiled. We've been spoiled, whether the Peyton Mannings

0:52:42.360 --> 0:52:45.120
<v Speaker 3>and and then the Tom Brady's and the Patrick Mahomes

0:52:45.120 --> 0:52:48.480
<v Speaker 3>and the Joe Montown And people don't understand how difficult

0:52:48.520 --> 0:52:51.319
<v Speaker 3>that Aaron Rodgers the breadthat they don't understand Beren Rogers

0:52:51.360 --> 0:52:56.960
<v Speaker 3>all these quarterbacks and it's thirty two teams. It's thirty

0:52:57.000 --> 0:52:59.719
<v Speaker 3>two teams and it's only a handful of quarterbacks in

0:52:59.760 --> 0:53:05.600
<v Speaker 3>each hand Yeah, almost over thirty years that are Tier

0:53:05.640 --> 0:53:06.360
<v Speaker 3>one quarterback.

0:53:06.480 --> 0:53:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:53:07.560 --> 0:53:10.160
<v Speaker 3>That just lets people know how difficult that position is

0:53:10.239 --> 0:53:14.000
<v Speaker 3>and how special those are that are in those conversations.

0:53:13.320 --> 0:53:14.240
<v Speaker 1>That we're talking about.

0:53:14.520 --> 0:53:17.280
<v Speaker 3>And the fact that Lamar's name is in those conversations

0:53:17.360 --> 0:53:20.640
<v Speaker 3>and went into NVPS and those unwritten rules kind of

0:53:20.680 --> 0:53:24.160
<v Speaker 3>give you like, augh, he's not really there yet until

0:53:24.200 --> 0:53:28.239
<v Speaker 3>he does this. So he got, he got to get there.

0:53:28.320 --> 0:53:30.839
<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure when it's gonna happen, but it's gonna

0:53:30.880 --> 0:53:31.840
<v Speaker 3>happen before his career.

0:53:31.960 --> 0:53:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Yes, my bad. Tom has ten super Bowl appearances. God

0:53:36.600 --> 0:53:44.800
<v Speaker 1>damn he has ten. Oh that's crit lost to Eli

0:53:44.840 --> 0:53:49.719
<v Speaker 1>twice and lost to a Nick Foles. Yes, or the

0:53:49.760 --> 0:53:56.960
<v Speaker 1>trick of the Philly Special. Yeah, oh Joe. Now here's

0:53:57.000 --> 0:54:00.359
<v Speaker 1>the next five that had Lamar number one, had Jeorde

0:54:00.400 --> 0:54:04.759
<v Speaker 1>Love number two, Justin Herbert number three, Dak Prescott number four,

0:54:05.080 --> 0:54:07.560
<v Speaker 1>Trevor Lawrence number five. Nowh Trevor Lawrence. Need to be

0:54:07.600 --> 0:54:10.000
<v Speaker 1>with Lamar? Is? I will put Lamar down there. If

0:54:10.000 --> 0:54:11.640
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna put the you're gonna put Lamar on his list.

0:54:11.640 --> 0:54:15.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna put him down at five, right man, Trevor Lawrenen,

0:54:15.320 --> 0:54:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Trevor Lawrence. Man, I don't think Justin Herbert is overrated.

0:54:21.680 --> 0:54:25.799
<v Speaker 1>Let's see now that he has Jim Harbaugh, the one

0:54:25.840 --> 0:54:32.560
<v Speaker 1>thing we know about Jim Harbor. Yeah, he gonna win.

0:54:34.040 --> 0:54:38.839
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. They're gonna play like stand out defense and

0:54:39.040 --> 0:54:41.040
<v Speaker 1>he gets. He gonna get to a super Bowl. I'm

0:54:41.040 --> 0:54:42.480
<v Speaker 1>not gonna say it's gonna beat this year.

0:54:43.640 --> 0:54:46.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but he definitely he definitely gonna get he getting

0:54:46.160 --> 0:54:49.320
<v Speaker 3>there and listen and and the way Justin Herbert is

0:54:49.320 --> 0:54:52.279
<v Speaker 3>playing this year too. Man, Justin Herbert is throwing at

0:54:52.520 --> 0:54:59.440
<v Speaker 3>absolutely he Quentin john It is Quentin Johnston Quinston Quinton

0:54:59.520 --> 0:55:03.360
<v Speaker 3>Quentin mm hmm. Man Young Bull, Young Bull got his

0:55:03.440 --> 0:55:09.600
<v Speaker 3>confidence playing extremely well. That Darius McConkey playing extremely well.

0:55:09.840 --> 0:55:13.560
<v Speaker 3>Keenan Allen, that veteran presence in that locker room playing

0:55:13.560 --> 0:55:14.360
<v Speaker 3>extremely well.

0:55:14.400 --> 0:55:17.120
<v Speaker 1>So they're.

0:55:17.640 --> 0:55:20.040
<v Speaker 3>Right now. I forgot about Rondie Gass in the second

0:55:20.640 --> 0:55:23.239
<v Speaker 3>catching hell of that ball being a Marion Hampton. I

0:55:23.280 --> 0:55:25.000
<v Speaker 3>think he's coming back. He's coming back on the back

0:55:25.040 --> 0:55:26.120
<v Speaker 3>on the back end of the season.

0:55:26.280 --> 0:55:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I think he.

0:55:26.719 --> 0:55:31.280
<v Speaker 3>I think he's gonna be back off injury. They they

0:55:31.360 --> 0:55:33.759
<v Speaker 3>gonna make a nice little run. They're gonna make a nice.

0:55:33.520 --> 0:55:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely will uh. George Love, George Loves gonna have he

0:55:36.800 --> 0:55:39.799
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to get better, man, George Love's gonna have

0:55:39.800 --> 0:55:42.080
<v Speaker 1>to be better. I don't know if somebody hasn't got

0:55:42.200 --> 0:55:43.960
<v Speaker 1>in his ear and talk about, bro, you got to

0:55:43.960 --> 0:55:46.960
<v Speaker 1>push the ball down the field. Man. You make too

0:55:47.000 --> 0:55:49.440
<v Speaker 1>much money. You make too much money to be to

0:55:49.440 --> 0:55:51.160
<v Speaker 1>be missing these throws like and I'm not saying you're

0:55:51.160 --> 0:55:53.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna make every You're not gonna make every throw. I

0:55:53.640 --> 0:55:56.400
<v Speaker 1>get that, I understand, And I'm not trying to minimize

0:55:56.400 --> 0:55:58.520
<v Speaker 1>playing that position because that's a position I couldn't play

0:55:59.719 --> 0:56:02.799
<v Speaker 1>very But come on, bro, that's why they play. The

0:56:02.840 --> 0:56:06.000
<v Speaker 1>more you get paid, the more expected, the more expectation

0:56:06.160 --> 0:56:08.359
<v Speaker 1>and a bird that is placed on you. That's just

0:56:08.719 --> 0:56:10.360
<v Speaker 1>that's just the rules of engagement.

0:56:11.719 --> 0:56:15.920
<v Speaker 3>Hey, can you imagine? Can you imagine being responsible not

0:56:16.000 --> 0:56:18.840
<v Speaker 3>only for a team, but playing the most important position

0:56:19.280 --> 0:56:22.120
<v Speaker 3>on the field. The ball is in your hands the most.

0:56:22.920 --> 0:56:25.759
<v Speaker 3>They paying you fifty fifty five million dollars a year.

0:56:26.000 --> 0:56:28.360
<v Speaker 3>Matter of fact, forget a year, they paying you fifty

0:56:28.440 --> 0:56:33.600
<v Speaker 3>fifty five million dollars in six months, six months. And

0:56:33.640 --> 0:56:38.000
<v Speaker 3>I need, I need you to carry this franchise. Man,

0:56:38.080 --> 0:56:41.000
<v Speaker 3>you talk about pressure. I know, it's the game of football.

0:56:41.200 --> 0:56:43.279
<v Speaker 3>It's what we've all done since we were four years old.

0:56:43.880 --> 0:56:49.800
<v Speaker 1>But man, man, yeah, but look, I'm with you, Ojo.

0:56:50.239 --> 0:56:52.880
<v Speaker 1>I believe Lamar Jackson is going to get to a

0:56:53.000 --> 0:56:59.399
<v Speaker 1>super Bowl, and once he gets there and he wins it,

0:56:59.400 --> 0:56:59.879
<v Speaker 1>it's over.

0:57:00.080 --> 0:57:02.120
<v Speaker 3>Hey, get that monk, get that monkey off my back

0:57:02.120 --> 0:57:04.440
<v Speaker 3>so I can go play freely. Please, thank you.

0:57:04.440 --> 0:57:07.240
<v Speaker 1>You see, think about it. I give your problem. Example,

0:57:07.320 --> 0:57:10.160
<v Speaker 1>Lebron James had two m vps, but he had never

0:57:10.480 --> 0:57:13.759
<v Speaker 1>hadn't gotten to the finals. He had two lost two,

0:57:14.719 --> 0:57:18.400
<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden he he won, got

0:57:18.400 --> 0:57:22.880
<v Speaker 1>that monkey off his back. Yeah, it was you miss right,

0:57:22.880 --> 0:57:24.640
<v Speaker 1>and let Lamar get this thing, get the monkey off

0:57:24.680 --> 0:57:26.880
<v Speaker 1>his back. He might get the mike double you up,

0:57:27.440 --> 0:57:28.240
<v Speaker 1>go back to back?

0:57:28.320 --> 0:57:33.520
<v Speaker 3>Jack, Yeah, hey, I got one question too, now that

0:57:33.560 --> 0:57:36.640
<v Speaker 3>we're talking about those hundred rules, especially in these conversations

0:57:36.680 --> 0:57:40.160
<v Speaker 3>when it comes to quarterbacks and m vps, it was

0:57:40.280 --> 0:57:43.520
<v Speaker 3>it was just on my well, well, it's kind of

0:57:43.520 --> 0:57:46.160
<v Speaker 3>different because Jayleen Hurst, Jayla Hurst has a Super Bowl

0:57:46.280 --> 0:57:49.640
<v Speaker 3>MVP and a ring, so he's not in that conversation.

0:57:51.120 --> 0:57:53.640
<v Speaker 1>These are only are the only guys in the Super

0:57:53.720 --> 0:57:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Bowl that had at least too regularly the MVPs. Right, okay, okay,

0:57:59.080 --> 0:58:01.920
<v Speaker 1>there are nine guys. Lamar make the tenth. Lamar is

0:58:01.960 --> 0:58:06.640
<v Speaker 1>the only one that hasn't appeared any Super Bowl. And

0:58:07.000 --> 0:58:10.439
<v Speaker 1>think about it, Peyton Manning never went back to back.

0:58:10.520 --> 0:58:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Tom and Tom, Joe and Mahomes are the only ones

0:58:14.560 --> 0:58:16.680
<v Speaker 1>to go back to back of the group that right,

0:58:18.040 --> 0:58:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Peyton didn't go to back to back Super Bowls. Yeah,

0:58:22.040 --> 0:58:25.240
<v Speaker 1>Kurt didn't. Kurt went ninety nine, we won two thousand.

0:58:25.360 --> 0:58:27.120
<v Speaker 1>They went in two thousand and one, and then he

0:58:27.160 --> 0:58:30.440
<v Speaker 1>went again with Arizona, I think, And what was that

0:58:30.480 --> 0:58:36.240
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and eight? I think it was two thousand

0:58:36.280 --> 0:58:39.520
<v Speaker 1>and eight because two thousand and nine was New Orleans

0:58:39.520 --> 0:58:42.000
<v Speaker 1>two thousand what do you call him? Because seven was

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<v Speaker 1>the Giants, eight was the Steelers, nine, nine was yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>nine was New Orleans. Ten was the Giants again, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>eleven was the Packers. Yeah, h yeah, eleven was the Packers,

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<v Speaker 1>twelve for the Seahawks. Oh man, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I was just, you know, just just going.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I said, o, yo, once he gives that

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<v Speaker 1>monkey off his back.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh Joe, Yeah, yeah, you're gonna be fine. A and

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<v Speaker 3>that that ship hard. I'm gonna go cause we've been

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<v Speaker 3>on this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>About because you know why it's hard, because they say

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing like a game seven. Well, in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>there's every game is a game seven. Every game, every game,

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<v Speaker 1>wild card game is game seven, Divisional round game seven,

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<v Speaker 1>Conference Final game seven, super Bowl game seven. Football, you

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<v Speaker 1>play a game seven every time you step on the

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<v Speaker 1>field in the playoffs in football.

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<v Speaker 3>Matter of fact, four weeks yes, four weeks of game

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<v Speaker 3>four weeks of game seven yes, and you gotta mustard

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<v Speaker 3>up and play your football. You got to play your

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<v Speaker 3>best football.