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Speaker 1: That link is pinned in the chat, Oh Joe. The

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Speaker 1: Patriots looked offul impressive. They beat the Jets twenty seven fourteen.

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Speaker 1: I don't know they looked impressive. The Jets aren't good,

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Speaker 1: but the Patriots look good. I mean those first couple

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Speaker 1: even nice Stefan Diggs bill and reinvigorated. He looks good.

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Speaker 1: Henderson is running extremely hard. Uh two touchdowns on the ground,

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Speaker 1: O Joe, Yeah, Okay, okay, Mike Rabel has done an

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Speaker 3: goddamn the Patriots have dominated all season long. Being ninety two.

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Speaker 3: This is something I wasn't expecting. Being being the fan

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Speaker 1: for because he ain't go sugarcoat it now, Oh Joe,

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Speaker 3: Joy, take you time, Take it time.

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Speaker 1: I tweeted a little bit, but I just say I

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Speaker 1: in time, Oh Joe, I'm not so sure Justin Fields

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Speaker 1: he would become. Oh, Joe, let me give you some

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Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers, he was six or twelve for forty

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Speaker 1: those yards came on a screenplay bad tonight. Yeah. Before

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Speaker 1: the final drive he had seventy five yards passing. Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: I think A d Mitchell left his hands in Indy. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Hey, oh listen, listen now. Now he ended the game

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Speaker 1: Yards, right, No, he had one hundred and sixteen. But

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Speaker 1: before that, before the final drive, he got forty one

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Speaker 3: So, So one of the things that I do want

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Speaker 3: drop passes Ady Mitchell. Two big plays. They played two

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Speaker 3: the had those go ball. Yeah, it's oh man, you

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Speaker 3: You pull that in, then the wheel route up. You know,

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Speaker 3: perfect ball outside shoulder, dB has no way to make

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Speaker 1: He had he had a couple of drop but there

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Speaker 1: He had him on the head. That's a simple pitching catch.

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Speaker 1: There's a chance I can make you miss at least

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Speaker 1: at least I caught it at five and bare minimum Ojo,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a first down. I might make you

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Speaker 1: missing yet even more, I'm like, justin to start the game.

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Speaker 1: You can't because what do we always say, O Joe,

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Speaker 1: give me something. I just want to get my hand.

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Speaker 1: I just want to touch the ball. Let me touch it.

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Speaker 1: Gotta give me nothing sophisticated. Just let me catch it.

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Speaker 1: Let me catch ah, let me catch a shallow cross.

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Speaker 1: I just want to touch the ball. You give it

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Speaker 1: to them early? You got me late? Yeah? Justin? How

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Speaker 3: They want a nice little checkdown to get themselves in

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Speaker 3: what you want. You want to slant, you want to hit,

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Speaker 1: Already gone through it. Okay, we've gone through it through

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's bad. But also you know, also, you know

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Speaker 1: They have to look at the guys that you just mentioned,

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Speaker 1: With facts that if you look at him, O Joe,

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Speaker 3: obviously I don't think the Jets offensive coordinator has that

429
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 3: kind of creativity to put in you and Justin Justin Field,

430
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 3: to use Garrett Wilson in the right type of way

431
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,360
Speaker 3: to create those mismatches like the other team.

432
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 1: I can give you all the nice ingredients, I won't,

433
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,680
Speaker 1: but if you got can't cook, what the hell have

434
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,679
Speaker 1: I done. I spent a whole lot of money on

435
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 1: going great foods, great ingredients, and I know you can't

436
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 1: make a dish with it. It comes down to it.

437
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, you're really good. Go look at Chopped and

438
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 1: the Iron Chef and they get these they get these people. Okay,

439
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you chocolate. I'm gonna give you onions.

440
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you stone crabs. And I'm like, how

441
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:23,919
Speaker 1: did you even think of this? Yes? But you give somebody,

442
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 1: you give them all. Okay, I'm gonna give you steak.

443
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you this. I'm gonna give you that,

444
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:33,439
Speaker 1: And You're like, what I'm what I'm supposed to make?

445
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 1: I just I hope I'm wrong, chat, I really do,

446
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 1: But I just I just and I've seen him and

447
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 1: I've watched him. Now, this man has gone through three

448
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 1: head coaches and probably four offensive coordinators. And I'm not

449
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 1: and and and and and and sometimes you get lucky

450
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 1: and you get to you get a Sean mcvail, or

451
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: you get a Kyle shan a hand but I just don't.

452
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 1: I just don't know it, because at the end of

453
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,159
Speaker 1: the day, the quarterback position is all about process and

454
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 1: information and then and spitting in the back out. That's

455
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 1: what it comes down to, it is. I mean, I

456
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 1: don't care how good, how big your arm is, I

457
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: don't care how fast your legs are. Can you process it?

458
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: O choe mm hmmm, Because that's that's a whole different bay,

459
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 1: because not only make you process, you gotta realize they

460
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 1: got they got fight that on most occasions they got

461
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 1: four guys that's really trying to tear your damn head off.

462
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: Oh so you got you in fear for your life.

463
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: But also you gotta calm yourself down and says you

464
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 1: know what, one to check down, one to throw it

465
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: out of bounds, one to if that I'm out.

466
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, mhm, it's all. It's all about that.

467
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe maybe put him in, maybe put him in

468
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 1: hurry up the game, because it seems like, you know,

469
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:54,719
Speaker 1: when he's in hurry up, he's better. Yeah. Yeah, and

470
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: then fumble. Yeah, I mean.

471
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Speaker 3: Unless that that's on the set. That's on the center too,

472
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 3: that's on the city. Come on, now, that's the NFL.

473
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 3: Now put the put put the snap at the It

474
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 3: should be the snap. The snap should come in the

475
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 3: same area every single time you go through your dog.

476
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 3: I mean like, come on now, come on, center, don't

477
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 3: don't at that.

478
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: Don't do that.

479
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 3: I love man that the ball hit it, the ball

480
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 3: hit his ankles.

481
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: But you know what, it's just that, you know, take that,

482
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 1: take that, Take that away. They got three points out

483
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Speaker 1: of there. Give the defense credit because I thought the

484
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 1: defense gave up one touchdowns and two field goals in

485
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: the second half. Yeah, they did force the three and

486
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 1: out on the on the first possession of the second half,

487
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: which is kudos. Uh. You know, you see, I think

488
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: the Jets won the toss and they took the ball.

489
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,239
Speaker 1: They drove the ball right down the field, something they

490
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: don't normally don't do.

491
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 3: Uh.

492
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 1: It normally ends in a punt or or turnover and

493
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 1: they drove the ball. I think they had the ball

494
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: like fourteen plays and drove the ball and punched it

495
00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: in the end zone. But I just, Lord Hope, I'm wrong,

496
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: But I just, I just I just don't see where

497
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 1: he's ever gonna be more than what he is. I

498
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: don't think he's ever gonna be turning to what and

499
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 1: that's what. And that's okay because everybody ain't gonna be

500
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: a Lamar Jackson. Everybody's not gonna be Josh Allon or

501
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahome. But I mean, I think if the Jets

502
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: could be okay, if he was just like middle of

503
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: the road, you just can't be you can't be the

504
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 1: bottom tier. I'm not saying you got to be top tier,

505
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,239
Speaker 1: but I mean, if we got that kind of if

506
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: we got Chad you can see this, if we got

507
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: this much face, can you be somewhere.

508
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 3: In here and not be down here in the middle, right?

509
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 1: Can we get that? O? Joe? Mm hmm. You know

510
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: it all?

511
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 3: You know what else? It all comes down to not

512
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 3: only all not only all the intangibles and all the

513
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 3: all the nuances that we're talking about. But unless you

514
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 3: got confidence, hut, ain't nothing happening. You got to be

515
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 3: able to play with confidence. You have to be able

516
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 3: to play with confidence and and everything that you do.

517
00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 3: And one of the most important positions, damn, quarterback is

518
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 3: the most important, absolutely the most the most because if.

519
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: You don't believe your your your body language, yeah, your

520
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: aura is gonna say if you don't believe, I don't

521
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: believe either. M hmm. I mean, if you don't trust

522
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: your skill, why you won't me. That's why you used

523
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 1: to get in the car that joke somebody built. But

524
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 1: the seatbelt fast the seatbelt, Hell, I faster, mind you

525
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: do something I don't so you can building you. I've

526
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: been around quarterbacks when they walk into the huddle. You know,

527
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 1: they do you the confidence that you know what the

528
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: hell you do.

529
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 3: It exactly, exactly exactly. I hope, I hope they get

530
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 3: it together. I'm not sure what direction they're gonna go in,

531
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 3: but the way they've started so far and letting the

532
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 3: soft go and letting go oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah,

533
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 3: I wait, listen, but who are you Gonna're gonna're gonna

534
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 3: start over.

535
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 1: With the court.

536
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe, So you're gonna start with, So you're

537
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 3: gonna draft another one. You're gonna draft it, I believe so.

538
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: Or I mean, I don't know if there's any any

539
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that's gonna become available. Uh yeah, probably Sam Donald

540
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: didn't want any parts of New York again, which I

541
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't blame him, you know. Uh, but look, I mean

542
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 1: every day seemed like I hear a story about somebody

543
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: that played there having an interaction with the owner, and

544
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: it's never positive and it's never good, right Yeah, And uh,

545
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: with that situation, I hope ag gets at least three years,

546
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,719
Speaker 1: because it's not like you had to have a powerful

547
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: roster begin with. And now you stripped him of his

548
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: two best defensive players, so he got to get at

549
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: least two years. And without a quarterback, you can give

550
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: him five years. And he's still not gonna get it

551
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: done because you're not. It's hard, it's damn near impossible.

552
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: And I know, ja well, y'all did it in twenty

553
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 1: two thousands with the raid with Trend Dilfer. They don't

554
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: allow you to play football like that. You don't play

555
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: football like that anymore. The rules are different. So no, Hey,

556
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: there's nobody winning another Super Bowl like we won it

557
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: or like Tampa won it in O two. You're not

558
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 1: because they won't allow you to play defense like that.

559
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 1: Your quarterback is gonna have to stand in the pocket

560
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: and he's gonna have to make plays throwing the f

561
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: and football. Yeah, he's gonna be able to use his

562
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: legs to get out of harm's way some but he's

563
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: gonna have to be able to throw the football. The

564
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: days of oh, we got to kill a defense and

565
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna run the ball. No, you're not. No, No,

566
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: you're not.

567
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 3: You're not. You're not gonna. You're not gonna win very

568
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 3: many games like that because once the team gets ahead

569
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 3: on you, once the team gets ahead on you ten

570
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 3: fourteen points.

571
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: And you can't run your way back into a game.

572
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 3: Absolute.

573
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, O Joe, do you like

574
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray because I believe there's I believe there's gonna

575
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: be a separation of church in state in Arizona.

576
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 3: Uh huh, Yeah, most definitely. Because I think Kyler Murray

577
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,479
Speaker 3: is healthy. I think me personally, I think he's healthy.

578
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 3: But they're continuing to want to go with the Kobe

579
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 3: Brissett based on how he look and how the offense

580
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 3: moved with him, you know, the few weeks he's been

581
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 3: in Uh, if they do part ways with him, I'm

582
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 3: sure Kyler Murray will be somewhere.

583
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: Else next year for sure.

584
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 3: How how would it look over in New York I'm

585
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 3: not sure. I'm not sure if if it's a fit.

586
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 3: It all depends on AG. Obviously. Outside of AG, you

587
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 3: you got to go to the higher powers and see

588
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 3: if that's all yeah, they want to look into or

589
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 3: do you want to go into the draft?

590
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: Now?

591
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 3: When you when you think about some of the quarterbacks

592
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 3: coming into the draft, you know this year, is there

593
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 3: a franchise altering quarterback that can come in there and

594
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 3: change the franchise. I haven't seen anything like that this year.

595
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 3: There have been some that have played good, but nothing

596
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 3: that just blows you out the water, like you know,

597
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 3: with that guy, we got to have him.

598
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: I agree.

599
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 3: I haven't seen that. I haven't seen it.

600
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. So we'll see how this plays out.

601
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: O Jo Mike Rable was apparently very close to landing

602
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: the Jets job before the Patriot job Open Reporter Connor

603
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: heugh e'splaying that New York England hadn't fired Girard Mail

604
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: following its four and thirteen season. He believed Brabil would

605
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: have been the helm of the New York right now,

606
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: and truthfully, he was interested in the Jets as the

607
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: Jets were interested in him. If the Patriot's job hadn't opened,

608
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: I genuinely believed that Brabil would have been going to

609
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: take the job. They wanted Mike Brabel more than anything else.

610
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: So that's when he was the only way to take

611
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: the Patriots job. They made the last second call. Is

612
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: anything we can do to give you the job full control,

613
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: more money? What do you want more? What more can

614
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: we do to change your mind? O Jo? Yeah, if

615
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: you interviewed him, you should have. He should have never

616
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: left your building. You should have.

617
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 3: Hey, listen, you got to do that. You got to understand,

618
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 3: you got to understand a coach like that, which is

619
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 3: why mister Crabb did with Yes, this is why mister

620
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 3: Crabb did. He understood, he understood the assignmon ain't nowhere

621
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Speaker 3: in hell we have a quarterback. I think he just

622
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 3: had the right person in charge, you know, with a

623
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 3: little structure, with a little discipline, that can then and

624
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 3: instill that Patriot way, you know. Graw Mayo I think

625
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 3: was well capable of doing so. They just didn't play

626
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 3: well for Grawd Mayo for for whatever reason, I don't know,

627
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 3: but the team looked completely different under the tutelage of goddamn.

628
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: Micro different teams.

629
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 3: Hey don't I don't know why, but listen. I don't

630
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 3: think Mike Raby would have had success in New York anyway.

631
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 3: He wouldn't have had success. Hell, if you're gonna have success,

632
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 3: if you couldn't do it in Tennessee, you damn she

633
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 3: won't be.

634
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: Able to do in New York. I think I think

635
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: Tennessee got with him prematurely. That's what I think. I

636
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: think the thing you don't listen today, like he and

637
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: and and the owners started butting head you know, you

638
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: know A and yeah, and uh, you know, I guarantee

639
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: she wish she had Mike Brabel. Now she's finding out.

640
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: She's finding out the hard way. Yes, she's finding out

641
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: the hard way. I think the thing is like when

642
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: you're when you're in that type of position, you're in

643
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: ownership and you're a leadership, the one thing you can't

644
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: be is impulsive, get mad, you fired. You can't do it,

645
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: even though sometimes I understand that you want you might

646
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: want to. You're never working this industry again, right, Brabel

647
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: had I mean think about it. And then they they

648
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: they they let Derrick Henry go and they ended up

649
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: trading A J. Brown.

650
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 3: Yes, listen, horrible decision by A J. Wanted out, but

651
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 3: they were making horrible decisions.

652
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: They would.

653
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 3: Yeah that that too, but the trade was to try

654
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 3: and better they team. Let's see what we can get

655
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 3: for him and see if we can improve our team.

656
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 3: They drafted brother Trailing.

657
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: Burks, who was supposed to I think got my chemra

658
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: cut off.

659
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that that that didn't pan out. That

660
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 3: didn't pan out too well. So, I mean it's just

661
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 3: they've been making some bad business decisions when it comes

662
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 3: to not only players, but the coaches. Yes, the coaches,

663
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 3: well you have you have a super Bowl winning coach

664
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,479
Speaker 3: that knows what it takes to win. He knows how

665
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 3: to bill a team, obviously coming from the New Way,

666
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 3: the page Away, coming from England. You know what I

667
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 3: have the formula, I know what it takes. It's not

668
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 3: gonna be the snap of a finger. And you can't

669
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 3: just take money and throw money at it. I need

670
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 3: time now and with that time, I need you to

671
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 3: give me a quarterback. If you give me a quarterback,

672
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 3: I'll take care.

673
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: Of the rest.

674
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 3: He goes New England. He has a quarterback. Okay, you

675
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 3: know what, Now we set we have a franchise quarterback

676
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 3: for the next ten to fifteen years. Now, mister Kraft,

677
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 3: let me, let me do the rest. Let me do

678
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 3: the rest. So what we see from the Patriots right now,

679
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 3: we finish, see this for the next ten.

680
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: Twelve fifty for sure, because the one thing that you

681
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: know about mister Kraft is that he'll get he'll step

682
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: out of the way. Yeah, step out of the way. Now.

683
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: Do I think he has more in common with Brabel

684
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: than he did Coach Belichick? Yes, I do. I think

685
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: I think under normal circumstances, mister Craft and Coach Belichick

686
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: probably with have butted heads. But in a situation like

687
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: where we're in, O Joe, I'm gonna hey, I'm mining

688
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: goal and we're still finding it. Yeah, and now if

689
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: Brabel takes that job and they can entice Sam Donald

690
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: to come back, because I do think Sam Donald says, Okay,

691
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: here's a coach that has control. I ain't got to

692
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: I don't gotta worry about ownership. I ain't got to

693
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: worry about no general manager. Mike Brabel got controlled. I'm

694
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: not saying he has as much control, but I believe

695
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: who's the general manager didn't he didn't didn't the general

696
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: manager come back with Brabel? Yeah, because at the end

697
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: of the day, O Joe, some people take jobs, and

698
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: I'm just happy to have a job. They ain't got

699
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: no sale over to fifty three, they got no silver

700
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 1: fifty free agency. They ain't got no say over to Drayt. Yeah.

701
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 3: That that's hard. That's hard. That's hard to be a coach.

702
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: Or was he already there? I know you got great.

703
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: Brabel more than likely has sale over fifty three and

704
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: has some say draft because he knows what he wants.

705
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: He knows the type of player, he knows the system

706
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: that he's trying to run. He knows the type of

707
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: player that he needs to fit set. That's why Coach

708
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: Belichick a lot of times when he drafted players, he

709
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't work them out himself, but he needed to talk

710
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: to because the thing is, you can't have a big

711
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: ego and play for coach Belichick because you say, what

712
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: do Nah, you gotta leave your ego at home, because see,

713
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: if you check it at the door, you might anybody

714
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 1: to look and go back and get it. Yeah.

715
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 3: Nah, that ain't gonna work. No, that it ain't gonna

716
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 3: matter of fact, it's it's not gonna work with Rabel,

717
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 3: absolutely not. Hey, look, hey, hold on, what's the first

718
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 3: thing we said about Stephan Diggs. What's the first thing

719
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 3: everyone says about Stefan Diggs. Well, hell, he looks like

720
00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 3: a whole different person. He seemed like a whole different person. No,

721
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 3: thats just when you walk in that door in New England,

722
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 3: and just something about that atmosphere. They always talk about

723
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 3: the Patriot Way, and so I can't explain it.

724
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: I was there.

725
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: It's just the the or the atmosphere.

726
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: Just you you.

727
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 3: Check yourself down.

728
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: The standard is the standard automatically.

729
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 3: You just do it.

730
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: Is that your sound on my sound not? Can you

731
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: speak of that? Your mind was moving? I hear nothing.

732
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 3: Oh, my bad, My bad, My bad. You know you

733
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 3: know I be talking so goddamn fast man, My bad.

734
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but uh man, I look, the Patriot's gonna be

735
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: good for a long time. And what we thought was

736
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 1: a foregone conclusion that Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills

737
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: is gonna run this division for the next ten years.

738
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: That's not gonna be the change. It's gonna be a

739
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: dog fight this division. It's gonna be a dog fight

740
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 1: this division. Between two teams, Oh for sure. Between between

741
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: two teams, it's gonna always. It's gonna be always for

742
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: the next decade. It's gonna be the Patriots or the

743
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: goddamn Bills. I agree. Oh not your guppies. Who guppies?

744
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 3: Oh no, listen, listen, listen. The Dolphins and the Jets

745
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 3: are in the same boat. Then it's only because they

746
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 3: finish scrap. They finish scrapping and clean house too.

747
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: They are oh joe. Bleacher Report ranks his five most

748
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: overrated quarterbacks. They named Lamar Jackson as the most overrated

749
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL, said he may not just be

750
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: one today's most overrated active quarterbacks, but also of all time.

751
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: His two time MVP status is borderline fraudulent. His credentials

752
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: don't measure up to other leisures who've won the award

753
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: on numerous occasions. Of the ten players that have joined

754
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: multiple MVP clubs during the Super Bowl era, Jackson is

755
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: the lone member without a Super Bowl ring. All The

756
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: others on that list include Johnny uniteds Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers,

757
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Brett Farb, Joe Montano, Steve Young, Kurt Warner,

758
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes were able to take their team to multiple

759
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: Super Bowl appearances and one at least once. Jackson has

760
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: yet to even reach the Big Game. He's three and

761
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 1: five lifetime in playoffs and has a three seventy five

762
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: postseason winning percentage that stands far away the worst among

763
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: multiple MVP winners. First of all, Steve Young did not

764
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 1: take no team to multiple MVPs. He was a backup.

765
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: He took his team to one Super Bowl and he

766
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: did win it. That was in nineteen ninety four. He

767
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: threw six touchdowns in Miami to beat the Chargers. So

768
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: let's yeah, I like to give context. Steve Young did

769
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: not go to multiple Super Bowls now. Also, if I'm

770
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,479
Speaker 1: not mistaken, I think Earl Morrill didn't Earl Morrills start

771
00:38:46,480 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: one of those Super Bowl for the Coats. Oh, you

772
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: had a two? Johnny United did the Earl? Yeah, Miami,

773
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: Johnny Johnny went to two two. Uh coach went went

774
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: to two Super Bowls. I know they beat the Cowboys

775
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: on the field goal.

776
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 5: There, Oh Johnny, Yeah, okay, okay, look.

777
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: I get it. Yes, and and oh Joe, we talked

778
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: about this. This is the the albatross. This is the

779
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: elephant in the room. You see the names that are

780
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: on this list that of one multiple MVPs, Lamar is

781
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: the only one that hasn't been to a Super Bowl.

782
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: That's not to say, oh Joe, his career is not

783
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: ending tomorrow, but everybody jumped on me when I said

784
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: his career will be looked at it as a disappointment

785
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: if he doesn't get to a Super Bowl considering what

786
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: he had accomplished. You basical it on what these other

787
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 1: guys see. You can't just look, well, he won two MVPs.

788
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: You got to look at the company that he's in.

789
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: That's one two MVPs. Now you start looking at it,

790
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: you're like, well, damn, he has to get to one.

791
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers went to one. He has to get to

792
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: at least one. And then we look at him totally different.

793
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: He gets the one and he wins it, we look

794
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: at him differently. Ojo, we just do.

795
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, But yeah, listen, I understand the company to

796
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 3: keep the fact that he's won two MVPs, the fact

797
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 3: that he's one of those MVPs, those that in the

798
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 3: chat that are listening, that are watching, you have to

799
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 3: understand that he's in a different CLEAs in the class

800
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 3: of his own, in a different class for that matter.

801
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 3: So when it comes to judging him, he judged based

802
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 3: off his his what he's not cam Padre's what's the

803
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 3: world I'm looking for pep and the company his peers.

804
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 3: He judged based on his other peers that have want

805
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 3: MVP's as well, and most of them, if not all,

806
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 3: have been to a Super Bowl, whether they want a

807
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 3: Super Bowl or not, So he judg off of that.

808
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 3: But the whole overrated part is the part I don't like.

809
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 3: That's the part I don't like saying that he's overrated

810
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 3: because he hadn't gotten there yet when he's still playing

811
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 3: and only a seventh maybe eighth year, I'm not sure

812
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 3: which one it is.

813
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous that nothing about Lamar's first year.

814
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, but but nothing about Lamar Jackson and what

815
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 3: he brings to the table, what he brings to the NFL,

816
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 3: what he bring to the Baltimore Ravens in general and

817
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 3: giving them a chance and having him a contention every

818
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,959
Speaker 3: goddamn year. Nothing about that is overrated. That's the part

819
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 3: I don't like. Now that is more to me, it's

820
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 3: more clickbait. There should be a differ, different title when

821
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 3: it comes to talk about the quarterbacks that have won

822
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 3: MVPs and have been or won a Super Bowl. That

823
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 3: the title should be goddamn different, overrated, my goddamn mad.

824
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 3: Now that that's a bunch of bullshit.

825
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: Let me ask your question. But when you looking at

826
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: him him, you but to here's the thing they're not seeing.

827
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: You're looking at him against his peers. They're looking at

828
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: him against his peers that have won two MVPs. So

829
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: when you look at him, look at the clans that

830
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: he's in. You compare him to my home boy two MVPs,

831
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: five super Bowl appearances, three wins. You're looking at Peyton

832
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: Manning five MVPs, three super Bowl appearances, two wins. You

833
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:43,280
Speaker 1: look at Tom Brake, move on, you look at Yeah,

834
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: you look at brand Fat. How about how about this?

835
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 3: Everybody on that list, everybody on the list except one person,

836
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 3: is already done and not playing any correct. Everybody on

837
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 3: the list is done and not playing. So how about

838
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 3: we wait until he's done playing, and then we justify

839
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,479
Speaker 3: whether he belongs in that company or not, or whether

840
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 3: he's overrated or not. And even if he doesn't go

841
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 3: to a goddamned super Bowl, what he's going to continue

842
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 3: to do the resume that he's gonna put together whether

843
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 3: he wins three more MVPs and doesn't make a goddamn

844
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 3: super Bowl or not, nothing about Lamar Jackson is overrated.

845
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 3: I know the fact that the way we judge quarterbacks

846
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 3: is based on wins and losses and rings and hardware

847
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 3: and all that, But when it comes down to the

848
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 3: nitty gritty where you're talking to people that played the game,

849
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 3: forget forget the media, forget the pundits, forget those that

850
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 3: never played the game. Nothing about young bull out of

851
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 3: goddamned Pompino, who played for Boy and Beach High School

852
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 3: is overrated. Whether he has a goddamn ring or not,

853
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 3: he will still go down as one of the best, the

854
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 3: best quarterbacks that ever play this goddamn game. How do

855
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 3: we judge Damn Marino? Do we say Damn Marinos not

856
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 3: winning the great because.

857
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: G R E. A. T. Great. Now if we add

858
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: s t one of the greatests, a's what he's going for.

859
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: You see, you said something very interesting and this is

860
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: and this is actually true. Only quarterbacks getting measured by

861
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: wins and Super Bowl, no other, no other position. Super

862
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: Bowls matter, right, not like they do for a quarterback

863
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: because oh cho, even when when Brady wasn't putting up

864
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: numbers like Peyton Manning, they said he was better than

865
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: Manning because what did he have that Manning didn't? Championships?

866
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: Think about it now, Peyton Manning had won multiple multiple MVPs.

867
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: Brady had three Super Bowls. Manning had three regular season MVPs.

868
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: They say, well, Brady's better because Brady has as you

869
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: was pointing to your fingers, that's how they, Oh, I

870
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: don't sit the rules. You see what happened with ring culture.

871
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: You see what is it done? It'll make people jump

872
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: around and go try to find the best situation where

873
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: they can win a ring, and then they shut you up,

874
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, I've already done what I needed

875
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: to do.

876
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 3: Now they no more argument and no more argument at

877
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 3: that point, Especially when it comes to basketball, you have

878
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 3: those that that that have to chase the ring because

879
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 3: of ring culture in the rules, the unwritten rules. Matter

880
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 3: of fact, how about that the unwritten rules? Because who

881
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 3: the hell came.

882
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: Up with it? I don't know. Because they were saying,

883
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: they were saying Jordan was better than Magic, and Magic

884
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: had five rings. They were saying, but Jordan was better

885
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: than Bird, and Bird had three m vps in three rings.

886
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: He had, he's the last guy to win three consecutive MVPs.

887
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: You gotta go all the way back to wild. So

888
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: what has happened is that now I give you another one.

889
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: The next couple of years, people gonna say s Shelle

890
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: way A Tani is the greatest basketball player we've ever seen.

891
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 1: He's got four m He's got him unanimously, He's got

892
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: two super he got two World Series wings, O Joe.

893
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: He had one of the great postseason performers where he

894
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: struck out ten and hit three home runs. Now he

895
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: messed around and get another one and win another World Series?

896
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: Who we who? What? We?

897
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 2: Who?

898
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: What we gonna compare him to because we with for

899
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 1: MVP unanimously.

900
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's crazy.

901
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: So you see, once you start and Barry Barnes was

902
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: so great, even everybody that played against him, said that

903
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: is the greatest player that I've ever seen. Greg Maddick said, well,

904
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: it was it really easy to pick the Barry if

905
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: it mattered you walked him. He said, his job was

906
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: to get twenty seven hours. You ain'tn't get him on him,

907
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 1: So pick the other eight guys to get and figure

908
00:46:54,920 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: and figure it out. So when you look at oo, look,

909
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: it's hard to say a man a man like Lamar

910
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: And maybe you're right, maybe overrated is a harsh turn.

911
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: But I think if we they're looking they're looking at

912
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: it as the ten guys that have something that no

913
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: other guys have, and that is think about the NFL

914
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: going on, hold.

915
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 3: On, stay with me, staying me real quick. Now, So

916
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 3: if we if we talk about hard right and hardware,

917
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 3: hardware puts quarterbacks in a different and different in a

918
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 3: different year where we're not just great great is So

919
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 3: are we saying like Ben Rothlisberger belongs in that tier two?

920
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 3: Are we saying Russell Wilson also belongs in that tier two?

921
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,959
Speaker 3: When we talk about quarterbacks that are the greatest because

922
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 3: they no no no.

923
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: No no no no no no no no no no

924
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: no no. But here's the thing, oh Joe, None of

925
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: these none of those guys have regular season MVPs. Okay,

926
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: oh so they're okay, there there, there's.

927
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 3: So we can't we can't, we can't move.

928
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: Let me ask your question. Has anybody ever said Ben

929
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger's greater than Tom Brady? Peyton Manning. No, So, when

930
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,439
Speaker 1: you so, when you look at it, and so when

931
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: you when you look at it, you have to have

932
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: regular season MVPs. That does matter. Now when you when

933
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: you start getting postseason MVPs, that means you won the

934
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. See you see Brady Brady Brady has three

935
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: regular season MVPs. He has seven Super Bowls and five

936
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVPs. So no matter what criteria you use,

937
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard for somebody to overtake him unless

938
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: my homeboy gets five MVPs. It's let's just say, for

939
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: the sake of art, we have a compelling case. If

940
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: my homeboy Mahon boys not even thirty. I think he

941
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: just turned thirty, yes, so, and and the thing, he

942
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: just turned thirty. So when you look at it, oh Joe,

943
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: I think that is the thing. They're they're comparing him

944
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: in this elite category elite, which is guys that have

945
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: won multiple m vps. It ain't that many quarterbacks. That's

946
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: one two, what is it? Uninis Manning, Rogers, Brady Farv Montana,

947
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: Young Warner, mahme, it's nine. Lamar makes ten. Yeah, he's

948
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: the only one that's never been to a super Bowl. Now,

949
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: if he doesn't get to a super Bowl, what are

950
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: they gonna say? Ojo? Be honest, you know what they're

951
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 1: gonna say.

952
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We know what

953
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 3: they're gonna say. We know what they're gonna say. But

954
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 3: I listen, huh, I know what they're gonna say. But

955
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 3: I know what. My eyes haven't seen all he is,

956
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 3: I've seen.

957
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: Let me do you one better. They say, guys that

958
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: got super Bowl rings at the receiver position better than

959
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 1: Ojo because Ocho ain't got no rings. But you run

960
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: circles around them on the field. You see how they did?

961
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 1: See how they did? You see you see how they

962
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: did that?

963
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got you, I got listen, I'm with you

964
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 3: when you're right now, I'm picking up what saying. Yeah.

965
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: So now, so just imagine they do that for the receipt.

966
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,959
Speaker 1: So imagine if a quarterback that's what I said.

967
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's even, it's even, it's even worse. It's

968
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 3: even worse. Now. I hate that it's like that. I

969
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 3: hate that it's like that. It's it's somewhat of an

970
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 3: unwritten rule just like the unrul of hockey when it

971
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 3: comes to fighting, just like the unwritten unwritten rule in baseball.

972
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 3: Like I understand it. I hate that it's like that

973
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 3: hey ring culture when it comes to talking basketball, it

974
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 3: just does. Yeah, it matters, but that that's just the

975
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 3: way it is. But I mean, it is what it is.

976
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 3: I think I think with the way obviously they didn't

977
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 3: they didn't, they didn't have a good year, a good

978
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 3: start through the year. They obviously they still the Ravens.

979
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah yeah. But I think they're gonna win

980
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: the division. I think they're gonna get a they're gonna

981
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 1: get a home game.

982
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa.

983
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,919
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna wint about the division. So what about?

984
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 3: So what you think? What you think we're gonna do?

985
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 1: So you could do nothing?

986
00:50:58,320 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on, I'll tell you what I know.

987
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: I tell you what this is.

988
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 3: I'm very serious tonight. I'm very serious to night. But

989
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 3: I'll tell you this, I will give you guys a

990
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 3: division if we lose to the Steelers, which I doubt

991
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 3: we do. If we lose to the Steelers, I say,

992
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 3: you guys are probably gonna win the division at that point.

993
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 3: But if we go in there and we beat the Steelers,

994
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 3: that momentum, I tell you, I tell you what, that

995
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 3: momentum the rest of the season is gonna be hell.

996
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 3: I don't I don't give two you know what to

997
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 3: drop the dried up pigeon, you know what on concrete?

998
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 3: How bad our defense is that momentum? Offensively? Man, man, listen, man,

999
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's gonna be tough. Now we if

1000
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 3: we if we lose to the Steelers, I mean, that's it.

1001
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 3: It's a rat.

1002
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure.

1003
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 3: I mean our seasons.

1004
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: And so that's that's that's the thing, because you know,

1005
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 1: you look at Lamar and it's it's tough because in

1006
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: his era mm hm uh, he got my homes. There

1007
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: are a lot of quarters. There are a lot of

1008
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: people that's gonna get overlooked, just like they got overlooked.

1009
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: Ben didn't get the credit he deserves. Drew Brees didn't

1010
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,240
Speaker 1: get the credit that they deserve. Because why they played

1011
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: in the era with Smack Dawn, with Peyton Manning and

1012
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and you're talking about guys that got eight

1013
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: regular season MVPs and ten no, hell no, Tom is

1014
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: nine and twelve super Bowl appearances with nine wins.

1015
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. God, that's crazy.

1016
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 1: Man's crazy.

1017
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 3: And it's you know, it's so funny too, is is

1018
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 3: we've been spoiled. We've been spoiled, whether the Peyton Mannings

1019
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 3: and and then the Tom Brady's and the Patrick Mahomes

1020
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 3: and the Joe Montown And people don't understand how difficult

1021
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 3: that Aaron Rodgers the breadthat they don't understand Beren Rogers

1022
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 3: all these quarterbacks and it's thirty two teams. It's thirty

1023
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 3: two teams and it's only a handful of quarterbacks in

1024
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 3: each hand Yeah, almost over thirty years that are Tier

1025
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 3: one quarterback.

1026
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1027
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 3: That just lets people know how difficult that position is

1028
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 3: and how special those are that are in those conversations.

1029
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:14,240
Speaker 1: That we're talking about.

1030
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 3: And the fact that Lamar's name is in those conversations

1031
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 3: and went into NVPS and those unwritten rules kind of

1032
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 3: give you like, augh, he's not really there yet until

1033
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 3: he does this. So he got, he got to get there.

1034
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 3: I'm not sure when it's gonna happen, but it's gonna

1035
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 3: happen before his career.

1036
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: Yes, my bad. Tom has ten super Bowl appearances. God

1037
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 1: damn he has ten. Oh that's crit lost to Eli

1038
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: twice and lost to a Nick Foles. Yes, or the

1039
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: trick of the Philly Special. Yeah, oh Joe. Now here's

1040
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: the next five that had Lamar number one, had Jeorde

1041
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: Love number two, Justin Herbert number three, Dak Prescott number four,

1042
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence number five. Nowh Trevor Lawrence. Need to be

1043
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: with Lamar? Is? I will put Lamar down there. If

1044
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna put the you're gonna put Lamar on his list.

1045
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put him down at five, right man, Trevor Lawrenen,

1046
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. Man, I don't think Justin Herbert is overrated.

1047
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 1: Let's see now that he has Jim Harbaugh, the one

1048
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: thing we know about Jim Harbor. Yeah, he gonna win.

1049
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. They're gonna play like stand out defense and

1050
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: he gets. He gonna get to a super Bowl. I'm

1051
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: not gonna say it's gonna beat this year.

1052
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he definitely he definitely gonna get he getting

1053
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 3: there and listen and and the way Justin Herbert is

1054
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 3: playing this year too. Man, Justin Herbert is throwing at

1055
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 3: absolutely he Quentin john It is Quentin Johnston Quinston Quinton

1056
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 3: Quentin mm hmm. Man Young Bull, Young Bull got his

1057
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 3: confidence playing extremely well. That Darius McConkey playing extremely well.

1058
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 3: Keenan Allen, that veteran presence in that locker room playing

1059
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 3: extremely well.

1060
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: So they're.

1061
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 3: Right now. I forgot about Rondie Gass in the second

1062
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 3: catching hell of that ball being a Marion Hampton. I

1063
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 3: think he's coming back. He's coming back on the back

1064
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 3: on the back end of the season.

1065
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: I think he.

1066
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be back off injury. They they

1067
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Speaker 3: gonna make a nice little run. They're gonna make a nice.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely will uh. George Love, George Loves gonna have he

1069
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 1: gonna have to get better, man, George Love's gonna have

1070
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: to be better. I don't know if somebody hasn't got

1071
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: in his ear and talk about, bro, you got to

1072
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: push the ball down the field. Man. You make too

1073
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: much money. You make too much money to be to

1074
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: be missing these throws like and I'm not saying you're

1075
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: gonna make every You're not gonna make every throw. I

1076
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: get that, I understand, And I'm not trying to minimize

1077
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: playing that position because that's a position I couldn't play

1078
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: very But come on, bro, that's why they play. The

1079
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: more you get paid, the more expected, the more expectation

1080
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 1: and a bird that is placed on you. That's just

1081
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 1: that's just the rules of engagement.

1082
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 3: Hey, can you imagine? Can you imagine being responsible not

1083
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 3: only for a team, but playing the most important position

1084
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 3: on the field. The ball is in your hands the most.

1085
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 3: They paying you fifty fifty five million dollars a year.

1086
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, forget a year, they paying you fifty

1087
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 3: fifty five million dollars in six months, six months. And

1088
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 3: I need, I need you to carry this franchise. Man,

1089
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 3: you talk about pressure. I know, it's the game of football.

1090
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 3: It's what we've all done since we were four years old.

1091
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Speaker 1: But man, man, yeah, but look, I'm with you, Ojo.

1092
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 1: I believe Lamar Jackson is going to get to a

1093
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:59,399
Speaker 1: super Bowl, and once he gets there and he wins it,

1094
00:56:59,400 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 1: it's over.

1095
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 3: Hey, get that monk, get that monkey off my back

1096
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 3: so I can go play freely. Please, thank you.

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00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,240
Speaker 1: You see, think about it. I give your problem. Example,

1098
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: Lebron James had two m vps, but he had never

1099
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: hadn't gotten to the finals. He had two lost two,

1100
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden he he won, got

1101
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: that monkey off his back. Yeah, it was you miss right,

1102
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: and let Lamar get this thing, get the monkey off

1103
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: his back. He might get the mike double you up,

1104
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: go back to back?

1105
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 3: Jack, Yeah, hey, I got one question too, now that

1106
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 3: we're talking about those hundred rules, especially in these conversations

1107
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 3: when it comes to quarterbacks and m vps, it was

1108
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 3: it was just on my well, well, it's kind of

1109
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 3: different because Jayleen Hurst, Jayla Hurst has a Super Bowl

1110
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 3: MVP and a ring, so he's not in that conversation.

1111
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: These are only are the only guys in the Super

1112
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: Bowl that had at least too regularly the MVPs. Right, okay, okay,

1113
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: there are nine guys. Lamar make the tenth. Lamar is

1114
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: the only one that hasn't appeared any Super Bowl. And

1115
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,439
Speaker 1: think about it, Peyton Manning never went back to back.

1116
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: Tom and Tom, Joe and Mahomes are the only ones

1117
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: to go back to back of the group that right,

1118
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: Peyton didn't go to back to back Super Bowls. Yeah,

1119
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: Kurt didn't. Kurt went ninety nine, we won two thousand.

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Speaker 1: They went in two thousand and one, and then he

1121
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: went again with Arizona, I think, And what was that

1122
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight? I think it was two thousand

1123
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: and eight because two thousand and nine was New Orleans

1124
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: two thousand what do you call him? Because seven was

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Speaker 1: the Giants, eight was the Steelers, nine, nine was yeah,

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Speaker 1: nine was New Orleans. Ten was the Giants again, yeah,

1127
00:58:54,280 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 1: eleven was the Packers. Yeah, h yeah, eleven was the Packers,

1128
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Speaker 1: twelve for the Seahawks. Oh man, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,

1129
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: I'm just I was just, you know, just just going.

1130
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: But like I said, o, yo, once he gives that

1131
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 1: monkey off his back.

1132
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Speaker 3: Oh Joe, Yeah, yeah, you're gonna be fine. A and

1133
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 3: that that ship hard. I'm gonna go cause we've been

1134
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Speaker 3: on this thing.

1135
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Speaker 1: About because you know why it's hard, because they say

1136
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: there's nothing like a game seven. Well, in the NFL,

1137
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:34,919
Speaker 1: there's every game is a game seven. Every game, every game,

1138
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: wild card game is game seven, Divisional round game seven,

1139
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 1: Conference Final game seven, super Bowl game seven. Football, you

1140
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: play a game seven every time you step on the

1141
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: field in the playoffs in football.

1142
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Speaker 3: Matter of fact, four weeks yes, four weeks of game

1143
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 3: four weeks of game seven yes, and you gotta mustard

1144
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 3: up and play your football. You got to play your

1145
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 3: best football.