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Speaker 1: This is a Jesse Kelly show. It is the Jesse

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Speaker 1: Kelly Show. Let's have some fun on a Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Whoop day.

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Speaker 1: Praise God. The week's over halfway over because we uh,

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Speaker 1: we probably had a tough one today. So the right

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Speaker 1: off the bat, we're going to discuss this birthright citizenship

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court thing. In case you're wanting a more in

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Speaker 1: depth legal analysis of it. I have Bill Jacobson coming

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Speaker 1: up thirty minutes from now to break down kind of

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Speaker 1: a legal thing. Bill will break that down for us.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'll get to that in the moment. Here's

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Speaker 1: what else we have. We do have good things happening,

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Speaker 1: Some good things happening in the corporate world. Good thing

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Speaker 1: happened with Trump's executive orders. Terrible things are happening in

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Speaker 1: the media. Bill Gates is still a monster. We'll get

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Speaker 1: to emails, so many things on the world famous Jesse

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Speaker 1: Kelly Show on a Wednesday. So let's dig into this

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Speaker 1: right here. I've told you many times before, and I'll

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Speaker 1: say it again and again and again and again and again.

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Speaker 1: Saving a country is a process, not an event. Losing

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Speaker 1: a country is a process, not an event. It is

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Speaker 1: never one election, one court ruling one day. That is

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Speaker 1: not how it works. We can be fooled in the

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Speaker 1: thinking that's how it works because we get caught up

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Speaker 1: in these things, and because we look back at things,

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Speaker 1: historical things, and it seems like it was an event.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Roman Republic fell when they stabbed Caesar.

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Speaker 1: The Roman Republic fell one hundred years before then. That

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Speaker 1: the coup de gras. If you will, saving a country

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Speaker 1: is a process, not an event. We will not lose

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Speaker 1: the United States of America if we get wiped out

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Speaker 1: in the midterms. We won't lose the United States of

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Speaker 1: America if we lose the presidential election in twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: There's a thousand battles to fight, a thousand battles to

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Speaker 1: fight because it's a big war. But with any big war,

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Speaker 1: we have to understand that some battles are more important

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Speaker 1: than other battles. Some battles are a little river crossing.

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Speaker 1: You went across the river, you got slaughtered trying across

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Speaker 1: the river. Not ideal, but you'll cross at some other

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Speaker 1: place you'll gather. Then there are some battles that really, really,

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Speaker 1: really matter, And if you lose those battles. It's not

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Speaker 1: that you can't win the war, but it makes winning

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Speaker 1: the war significantly more difficult. Which brings me to today.

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Speaker 1: I got so many emails Jesse, my wife, and I

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Speaker 1: can't make heads or tails of the arguments presented to

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court or which way it appears the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court is leaning in the matter of birthright citizenship? Can

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Speaker 1: you help us out?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 1: So let me explain first the Fourteenth Amendment. Why do

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Speaker 1: we have it? Well, this is part of what drives

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Speaker 1: me crazy about even having an argument about birthright citizenship.

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Speaker 1: Everyone knows why we have the fourteenth Amendment. Every single

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Speaker 1: person knows. It is not a mystery. The left nose,

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Speaker 1: lawyers know the bit that it's not a mystery, and

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Speaker 1: it was never meant to be a mystery, because the

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Speaker 1: entire art argument was written down, the justifications for it

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Speaker 1: were written down. The Fourteenth Amendment was about freed slaves.

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Speaker 1: We had a country where we had slavery for a time.

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Speaker 1: Eventually slavery ended black people before that time of slaves,

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Speaker 1: I should say before that time, because there were black

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Speaker 1: time were not considered to be full citizens, full humans.

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Speaker 1: They had these weird rules. It was awful. So we

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Speaker 1: with that. It was about freed slaves. It always was

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Speaker 1: crazy because everyone knows it. Everyone knows it. Trump talked

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Speaker 4: If you look at the original birthright citizenship papers, they

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Speaker 4: all happened right after the Civil War. The reason was

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Speaker 3: People are making a big living, getting hundreds of thousands

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Speaker 4: To be a citizen of the United States of America.

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Speaker 2: That's not what it was for.

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Speaker 1: And what drives me up the wall is everyone knows

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Speaker 1: that every word Donald Trump just said there is true. Everyone,

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Speaker 1: it seems, has chosen to lie about this. It's not

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Speaker 1: a mystery why the communists lie about this. As we

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Speaker 1: that disloyal foreigners who hold no love of the United

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Speaker 1: bring them here, let them have as many babies as

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Speaker 1: a Democrat, demographics truly are destiny. You cannot lose. Zoran

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Speaker 1: Mandani is the mayor of our biggest, most powerful city,

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Speaker 1: New York City, and American born New Yorkers. These are lefties, democrats.

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Speaker 1: because foreigners voted for him. This is a man who

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Speaker 1: we cannot win. With the mass deportation of foreigners, we

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Speaker 1: know this, lawyers know this, judges know this. Everyone knows it.

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Speaker 1: And everyone knows something else. Birthright citizenship has been abused

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Speaker 1: with stars, and they have to take her to an

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Speaker 1: baby is an American citizen immediately, birth certificate, social security number,

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Speaker 1: all the rights that you have as a citizen China.

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Speaker 1: And we'll get to this in a few moments. China

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Speaker 1: them set up, and their whole thing is, we will

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Speaker 1: get you Chinese citizen to America to have your baby.

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Speaker 1: Once you have it, you come back home with the baby.

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Speaker 1: We will lovingly nurture this Chinese baby in the all

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Speaker 1: the wonders of communism. But that Chinese baby has a

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Speaker 1: or to put it more bluntly, whenever the Chi cooms

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Speaker 1: position at a university. This is happening. And what drives

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Speaker 1: times tonight is everybody knows. It's not like I'm the

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Speaker 1: you of anything you didn't already know. Everybody knows. Foreigners

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Speaker 1: from across the globe pillaged this country and achieve American

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Speaker 1: citizenship by a blatant and obvious violation of the fourteenth Amendment.

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Speaker 1: And everybody knows. Everyone the left knows, the middle knows,

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Speaker 1: yet it is permitted. This ridiculousness is permitted. So Trump

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Speaker 1: correctly challenged this, stood up and said, this is wrong.

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Speaker 1: You can't do this anymore. There's from this country they're

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Speaker 1: stealing from our citizens. You can't do this anymore. To

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Speaker 1: his credit, Donald Trump chose to dig into this fight

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Speaker 1: and got it all the way in front of the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court. And to be clear before we play a

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Speaker 1: couple things here, everybody knows on the Supreme Court too,

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Speaker 1: the left nose, the right nos, Catanji Brown Jackson knows,

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Speaker 1: Clarence Thomas knows, Amy Cony Barrett knows, John Roberts knows,

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Speaker 1: Atlanta Kagan knows. They all know. So how to go today?

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you in a second.

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Speaker 2: The Jesse Kelly Show on air and online at Jesse

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Speaker 2: kellyshow dot com.

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Speaker 1: It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a fantastic Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: We got Bill Jacobson coming up about ten minutes from

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Speaker 1: now to discuss the legal things around this Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: argument today. But a thousand battles will be fought to

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Speaker 1: some battles are more important than others. As I said,

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Speaker 1: taking away birthright citizenship is really, really, really important now

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Speaker 1: to do that. Look, we know where Katanji Brown Jackson

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Speaker 1: is going to vote, have afit. We got all that.

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Speaker 1: I'll play you summer her in a moment. But we

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Speaker 1: need people like the Chief Justice John Roberts. We need

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Speaker 1: him to vote with us. Here's how that went today.

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Speaker 5: Based on Chinese media reports there are five hundred.

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Speaker 1: This is not John Roberts. This is the guy arguing

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Speaker 5: That based on Chinese media reports, there are five hundred,

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Speaker 5: five hundred birth tourism companies in the People's Republic of China.

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Speaker 5: Who's what business is to bring people here to give

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Speaker 6: Having said all that, you do agree that that has

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Speaker 6: no impact on the legal analysis before us.

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Speaker 5: I think it's I quote Justice Clia said in his

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Speaker 5: Homdan Descent, where they like their interpretation has these implications

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Speaker 5: that could not possibly have been approved by the nineteenth

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Speaker 5: century framers of this amendment. I think that shows that

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Speaker 5: they've made a mess. Their interpretation has made a mess

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Speaker 7: Well, it certainly wasn't a problem in the nineteenth century.

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Speaker 5: No, But of course we're in a new world now,

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Speaker 5: is Justice Leita pointed out to where eight million people

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Speaker 5: are one plane ride away from having a child who's

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Speaker 7: Well, it's a new world.

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Speaker 1: It's the same constitution, it's the same constitution. But doesn't

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Speaker 1: he know what the fourteenth Amendment was about. He knows

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Speaker 1: he's lying. He's lying right to your face. Is he dumb.

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Speaker 1: He's not dumb. He's a liar. I know we all

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Speaker 1: think she's an idiot, and she is an idiot, but

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Speaker 1: Katanji Brown Jackson knows two. These are the kaka maybe

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Speaker 1: arguments she tries to use against it. But keep in mind,

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Speaker 1: how does this work?

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Speaker 8: Are you suggesting that when a baby is born people

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Speaker 8: have to have documents present documents? Is this happening in

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Speaker 8: the delivery room? How are we determining when or whether

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Speaker 8: a newborn child is a citizen of the United States

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Speaker 8: under your rule?

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Speaker 5: What Ssay says is there's currently a system where, for example,

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Speaker 5: security social Security numbers are generated based on the birth certificate.

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Speaker 5: They say, this can still be for the vast majority

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Speaker 5: of institute is completely transparent. You will still get it.

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Speaker 8: You're not transparent. I'm just talking about the particulars because

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Speaker 8: now you say your rule turns on whether the person

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Speaker 8: intended to stay in the United States. And I think

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Speaker 8: Justice Barrett brought this up. So we're bringing pregnant women

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Speaker 8: in for depositions? What are we doing to figure this out?

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Speaker 1: She knows? Is she dumb? Yeah? But she knows you

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have to come up with arguments like this if you.

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Speaker 8: You obviously have permanent allegiance based on being born in

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Speaker 8: whatever country you're from. That's what everybody recognizes. But you

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Speaker 8: also have local allegiance when you are on the soil

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Speaker 8: of this other sovereign. And I was thinking, you know,

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Speaker 8: I'm ius citizen and visiting Japan, and what it means

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Speaker 8: the Japanese authorities can arrest me and prosecute me. It's allegiance,

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Speaker 5: Based on Chinese media reports, there are five hundred five

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Speaker 1: why is John Roberts this way? Who is this sky?

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Speaker 1: Bill, When are we gonna know one. I feel so

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Speaker 9: so I don't know what's the weekend and what's not.

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Speaker 9: But whatever, that last couple of business days in June

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Speaker 9: is is probably what I'm going to hear.

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Speaker 1: Why they just like keeping us in suspense, Why they wait,

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Speaker 1: Why they save the biggest ones for the end?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, well, part of it is they need to get

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Speaker 9: out of town before the riots. I'm half joking there,

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Speaker 9: but only half joking. And two, they will have probably

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Speaker 9: several decisions here. You know, you're going to have the

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Speaker 9: you're gonna have multiple dissenting on big cases like this,

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Speaker 9: you know, they get a lot of opinions. And the

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Speaker 9: their practice of doing that ended up somebody making it

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Speaker 9: Alito's draft decision. So that's why they take longer. They

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Speaker 9: take more consideration, and they know that this is going

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Speaker 9: to be a big reaction. I mean, Trump was in

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Speaker 9: the courtroom today. That never happens, Okay, they know that

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Speaker 9: this is going to be a big reaction, and of course,

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Speaker 9: you know that's why they're going to take more time

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Speaker 9: on it. I mean, it's just a very hot political,

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Speaker 9: on those.

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Speaker 1: Bill, I owe you, thank you for educating us. As always,

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Speaker 1: It is the Jesse Kelly Show. On a fantastic, absolutely

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Speaker 1: wonderful Wednesday. I feel better after talking to Bill, I

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Speaker 1: feel like we have a chance. I don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 1: I'm still pretty sure we're totally screwed, but I feel

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Speaker 1: like we have a chance on the birthright citizenship thing.

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Speaker 1: Now in a minute, i'm gonna I'm gonna dig into

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Speaker 1: just give me a second here, and I'm gonna dig

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Speaker 1: into why won't Republicans get on board with this? Why

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Speaker 1: are Republicans acting confused about this whole thing? Because there's

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Speaker 1: a whole there's a whole thing behind this on the

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Speaker 1: right that we will discuss at length. Before we discuss that,

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Speaker 1: I have to address something that Jewish producer Chris is

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Speaker 1: mad about. Jewish producer Cris is mad because I am

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Speaker 1: not discussing this. What is it, Artemis, Chris Artemis? But

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Speaker 1: this space launch thing where we're going to the moon

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Speaker 1: and beyond the moon, this big NASA launch they're launching

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Speaker 1: people out into outer space and all kinds of people

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Speaker 1: are all excited about it, and Chris wants me to

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Speaker 1: talk about it. However, this is one of those things

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Speaker 1: and I have things like this. I can't help it.

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Speaker 1: I've just got to be honest with you at all times.

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Speaker 1: This is one of those things where I differ from

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Speaker 1: virtually everyone else in society. I probably differ from you

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Speaker 1: on this whole thing. I don't care outer space, space travel,

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Speaker 1: go into the moon. Here's a picture of Pluto. Could

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Speaker 1: not matter less to me? Could not what Chris? What

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Speaker 1: Chris said? What if we're mining an asteroid? You know what, buddy,

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Speaker 1: as soon as we go out there and actually grab

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Speaker 1: something that is beneficial to all of mankind, you know,

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Speaker 1: we mind some asteroid and then that turns into a

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Speaker 1: power plant that gives everyone in Africa power, then you'll

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Speaker 1: get me to say, man, I get it. Totally worth

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Speaker 1: it to this point, I know you're mad at me

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Speaker 1: about this. I know right now you're looking at the

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Speaker 1: radio and you're yelling at me. I'm not trying to

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Speaker 1: crap on your phone. I'm really not. No, I'm not Christy, No,

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm explaining why. I don't care. I'm on Earth.

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Speaker 1: I'm here on Earth. I don't understand why we continue

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Speaker 1: to shovel billions of dollars towards space travel. Why and

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Speaker 1: then this is where someone will always step in. Oh,

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Speaker 1: maybe you didn't see the pictures of Pluto. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: saw a picture of Pluto. How's this benefit me? How

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Speaker 1: does it benefit you? But they're going to the moon, great,

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Speaker 1: How does that benefit me? How does it make your

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Speaker 1: life tangibly better? In any way? No one can ever

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Speaker 1: lay this out. So you always get these things. And

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Speaker 1: I know I'm a jerk. I understand that. I am

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Speaker 1: my father's son. You always get these things. But it's cool.

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Speaker 1: There are lots of things that are really cool. Juggling

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Speaker 1: is cool. It doesn't cost me billions of dollars. What Chris,

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Speaker 1: Chris said, what if we have to send an oil

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Speaker 1: crew into space to blow up an asteroid? Yes, Chris,

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Speaker 1: I too have seen Armaged, an underrated movie. Again, if

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Speaker 1: these days ever come where we mine a meteor in

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Speaker 1: Power Africa where we have to send Bruce Willis and

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Speaker 1: his oil crew into space to save the planet, if

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Speaker 1: that day ever ever gets here, then I will say,

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Speaker 1: you know what, all that space travel stuff completely worth

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Speaker 1: it and super super interesting. I'm still waiting on that

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Speaker 1: day as of now. I'm glad that we have nuclear

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Speaker 1: weapons in outer space. That's what Chris. What Chris said,

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Speaker 1: We don't, Chris, you buy that officially. I understand what

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Speaker 1: the story is. Believe me, Pal, They've got nuclear weapons

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Speaker 1: in outer space. I bet you money on it. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I don't understand why it's it's supposed to be a

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Speaker 1: big deal for me. I don't understand why you think

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Speaker 1: it's a big deal. I just don't get it. And

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Speaker 1: I'm fine with not getting it, and I'm not trying

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Speaker 1: to cramp on you. I'm glad you have something you like.

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Speaker 1: But we're gonna gather around and we're gonna launch the

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Speaker 1: space thing and whatnot. I did that once as a kid,

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Speaker 1: and every but he died. What Chris Chris said a

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Speaker 1: private company? Would you be interested in space tourism go

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Speaker 1: into the space for like five minutes and come back down? Uh? Maybe?

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Speaker 1: The reason I say maybe is I would need to

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Speaker 1: know what responsibilities I have here on Earth. It's not

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Speaker 1: that I'm against risks. I take risks in my life,

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Speaker 1: but right now, I still have two sons at home,

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Speaker 1: I have a wife, I have responsibilities. I have people

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Speaker 1: to care for. I would have a hard time justifying

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Speaker 1: having a five minute adventure. So I could pull out

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Speaker 1: my iPhone and snap a picture of Earth from out

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Speaker 1: of space. I can get the same picture right now

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Speaker 1: on Google without ever going into out of space. I

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Speaker 1: just don't get it. I don't get it. Maybe you

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Speaker 1: don't get why the right is still kind of acting

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Speaker 1: dumb about the whole birthright citizenship thing. I will join

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Speaker 1: that next