1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:00,800 Speaker 1: The niggas. 2 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 2: So you see how they go to bat for this. 3 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 2: You see how all these jump out go to bat 4 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: for this bit. They lord this toxic. It's abusive to 5 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: beat the shit. I did kill them, kill their families. 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 2: One jump out and they done killed this Grandmamy and 7 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: granddaddy and he jump out defending it. Boy just got 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: out of jail. It's a toxic provider. That's why you 9 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: can't save the streets, some of these of it because 10 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 2: I don't know no big homies that winning done thirty 11 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 2: years in the face. Every single one of them niggas 12 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 2: is saying preaching against the game. 13 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 3: I don't know nobody that said. These rap niggas is masquerade. 14 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 4: Man. 15 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 3: These rap niggas is masquerade. 16 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: Man. 17 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 3: You understand what do we do? 18 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: What we're millionnaires? We beat the game. Imagine beating the 19 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: game and walking around with the joystick still in your hand. 20 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,639 Speaker 2: Now y'all want to walcome anybody to us up there podcast? 21 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 2: You know the vibes right now? I need you to 22 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: hit like subscribe. Shall let somebody know I was there 23 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: from Main and Spain. Man, you're dealing with the biggest 24 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,639 Speaker 2: one of the prime minister. I see all the tags. 25 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: I see a lot going on. I have missed a 26 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: couple of episodes. I've been dealing with a few things 27 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: that you know, in my personal life that I had 28 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: to attend to. But I guarantee you one thing. We 29 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: come to have a classic episode today. If you have 30 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: not hit share right now, if you let me say 31 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: that again, if you have not hit share right now, 32 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: because we're in a situation right now, man, well, we 33 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 2: gotta spread the gospel. 34 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 3: So we got a lot to talk about today. 35 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: Man. I see all the tags and posting mentions and 36 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: things and people asking what my opinion is on the 37 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: Streets movement that you see a merge from out of 38 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: then THATLP. Today, I'm gonna give you some of what 39 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: I feel about it. 40 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 5: Man. 41 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot going on, but we got 42 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: to capture it, and hopefully I take you through my 43 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: thought process as well as how I view all of 44 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: it for people who do not know. Twenty one Savage 45 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: just dropped his album called What Happened to the Streets 46 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: and he did an interview, and while Bank has my 47 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 2: support in what he's doing, the interview was counter productive. 48 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 2: December the eleventh, the interview was posted and they had 49 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 2: a conversation surrounding snitching, and I just felt like with 50 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: Savage being away from the game for that amount of 51 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: time and coming back to drop his album, it feels 52 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: like it was buried under all the conversation, the non 53 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 2: productive conversation. And so after the conversation with twenty one 54 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: Goals Live, he starts to get input from it, because 55 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 2: again the interview was like between two home boys. And 56 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. You gotta be careful on these cameras, right, 57 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 2: because you can know certain things you can't really speak about. 58 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: It's certain ways you gotta do certain things. It's too 59 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: much money at stake. There's a skill set man on 60 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: these cameras, man that cannot be ignored with this amount 61 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: of money just at stake, right. And so I always 62 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 2: tell like, even when all this shit going on all 63 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 2: the streets, all rappers this saying the streets, and I 64 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 2: think sometimes the fame can get you in a bad position, man. 65 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 2: It can make you think you bigger than the program. 66 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: Sometimes you can try to oblas simplify something that's a 67 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 2: very complex conversation, and you cannot do that right. And 68 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: so I'm not understanding what the fuck is going on. 69 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: So when I hit a couple of people hit me 70 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: from these usps across the country and they asking me, yo, long, 71 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: what's going on? And I'm explaining in them and trying 72 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 2: to get these young boys the benefit of the doubt 73 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 2: because I understand what it's like to come up and 74 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: feel their betrayal from the street. I know what it 75 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: feels like, and so they just going through it in 76 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: front of the world. These as young boys, they really 77 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: don't know what's going on. So just bat with them 78 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: and then it be a bunch of you old that 79 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: a contribute to the detrimental conversation. You need to start 80 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: saying something on the other side, help these young boys 81 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: explain something tearing their money down. And so when I 82 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: sit back as a big home, I'm saying, yo, hold one. Really, 83 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: I'm saying, yo, they gotta really start paying me because 84 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: I'm really an advisor. Shortly after the interview came out 85 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: on YouTube twenty one, Savage took to his Twitter with 86 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: a series of posts. Some of them was asking for 87 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: reconciliation between Thug and Gunner. He was asking for Wham 88 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: to acknowledge some things with Thug. He was asking for 89 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 2: unity in the city. One thing I say about twenty 90 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 2: one is it feels like he always is maneuvering with 91 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: a good heart. It feels like he wants to be 92 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 2: involved in the right way. 93 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 3: Right. 94 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 2: So this is a very complex conversation right now. I 95 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 2: got to be clear because I know there's a lot 96 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 2: of people out there lost. What you were dealing with 97 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: was twenty one savage for the first time in his life, 98 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 2: hearing himself out loud on the playback, under criticism on 99 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 2: some of the rules that the. 100 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 3: Streets stand for. And you hit a wall. 101 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: If you've never really been involved, you can't really understand 102 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, But you. 103 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 3: Hit a wall. 104 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: And so you're dealing with a young dude just realizing, Yo, 105 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 2: this shit kind to be signing crazy when you think 106 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 2: about it. And so when you deal with that, your 107 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 2: first reaction is going to be to push back. And 108 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 2: so then birth to the streets tweet. Now here's where 109 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: the roller coaster starts. Because if you're asking me when 110 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: I first seen the streets tweet, I understand what they mean. 111 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 3: I'm a high level nick. 112 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: Even if they don't mean what I think they mean, 113 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 2: I can apply a definition to it. Because I'm a 114 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 2: high level neck. But I knew soon as I seen 115 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 2: it it was a mistake. It wasn't a mistake in practice, 116 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: it was a mistake in execution. You cannot oversimplify such 117 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: a complex conversation. When you look back at Tupac, he 118 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 2: would always let me know what thug life meant. He 119 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: would explain to you what thug life men. He understood 120 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: that y'all can take thug life and put some on it. 121 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: So every time I come out to campaign for this, 122 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: I got to be clear on this. 123 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 3: Meaning. 124 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: You see a politician, no matter what you ask them, 125 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: they may revert back to a talking point because it's 126 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 2: clear in that talking point something that can resonate with somebody. 127 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: You got to be clear when you had these conversations. 128 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 2: But what happens is you become a rapper and you 129 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: get fame, and you get money, and then you get power. 130 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 2: That power makes you think you bigger than the program. 131 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 2: You ain't read the handbull And I don't blame the 132 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: rappers because their intentions are good. And I know Savage 133 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 2: to be a real When I've been around a couple 134 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 2: of situations I listen to him, I know it's vibration. 135 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 2: I know who you are, real one, not even under 136 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: the lights, not knowing nobody looking or watching right. I 137 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 2: know what he's standing on in certain scenarios, and so 138 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 2: I don't think the lahoma meant no harm. 139 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 3: And I knew what he meant when he was saying. 140 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: And so I know Savage to be someone that has 141 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: morals and principles based on what I've seen, some of 142 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 2: the public facing and some of the private conversations. You know, 143 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 2: I know Savage to have some sort of some level 144 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: of integrity, and so I understood what he meant. 145 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 3: I've been through it. I've been through that process. 146 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 2: It wasn't in front of everybody, though this is a 147 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: process that most of us go through. 148 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 3: It just ain't in front of everybody. 149 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 2: And while I understood Savage, and I expected most people 150 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 2: that has any kind of brain to understand what he 151 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: meant and what anybody is saying, because I've been saying 152 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: it for years, like yo, the streets don't pay good enough, 153 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: and it to ruin you to get you so far, 154 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: and then it'd be the reason you can't get no further. 155 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: I've always spoke to this, but I've also spoke to 156 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: the other side of that. And this is what I'm saying. 157 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: This is why Savage and you other guys got to 158 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: have smart gentlemen in the building, right, Because at first, 159 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: I was gonna come on here and snap right, I 160 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: was gonna call Spider Rugs or somebody. Yo, let I 161 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 2: need to talk to bru man. Well, let's get all 162 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: on the phone. I need to write. And because because 163 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: you know, in the back of my head, I'm saying 164 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 2: to myself, Yo, it's influential as rappers are. I love 165 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 2: these little I want to see them all eat. But bruh, 166 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: there's a corner of this world. Weed out. In the 167 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 2: corner of this world, the rappers don't override the street rules. Now, 168 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 2: they're influential, and they can get to the children, and 169 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: they can affect the streets, but don't nobody override the 170 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: street rules. So I was first gonna come in and say, 171 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: may the rappers can't say that. Can't no rappers say that. 172 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: I was gonna come in here like that. Then I said, 173 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 2: hold on on, you can't do that, because I gotta 174 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: pull a future coteil in a minute, right, as an 175 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: elder statesman in the game, you gotta explain to the 176 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 2: young day. Pay attention, brother, this is where you was 177 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: wrong when you say the streets it's damn then like 178 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: you said, the people that's trapped, not the trap. See 179 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 2: it come off as friendly five. You gotta know how 180 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: to speak to it. And this on the system. See, 181 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: because streets is not a person, it's a system. It's 182 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 2: like a toxic provider. You ever seen a woman that 183 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: go with anither that put his hands on it, but 184 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: she can't leave him because he paid a bill. This 185 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 2: is how the streets is for. It's a toxic provider 186 00:08:58,640 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: and they pay quick. 187 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 3: It pay one. So you gotta understand. 188 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 2: People got a certain relationship with this boyfriend of theirs. Yeah, 189 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 2: this boyfriend be beating the shit out. Need you see 190 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: how they go to bat for this beer. You see 191 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 2: how all the eating jump out go to bat for 192 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 2: this beer. They love this toxic, this abusive to beat 193 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: the shit outa kill them kill they families one jump 194 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 2: out and they done kill this grandmammy and granddaddy and 195 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: he jump out defending it. Boy just got out of jail. 196 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 2: It's a toxic provider. That's why you can't save the street. 197 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: Some of the love it. They don't know They don't 198 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 2: give how much it hurt him. It help them. It's 199 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 2: the only thing to help them. You can't say you 200 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: can't telling him to quit a job, and it's the 201 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: only job that's hiring him. You can't expect to leave 202 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 2: the only house that accept him. I don't give a 203 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 2: how much repping you're doing, right, So I was gonna 204 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 2: come with that attitude, But that's counterproductive. My job is 205 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: to explain the game, and so I got to explain 206 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: to the rappers why the streets. Why some of the 207 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: streets is hearing it that way. Some of them want 208 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: to hear it that way. Some of them want to 209 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 2: break bad. But some of them is looking at it 210 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 2: like you're talking about their girlfriend. Some of them is 211 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: looking at it like you talking about they toxic provider. 212 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: It done a lot for us. It taught us a lot. 213 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 2: It took a lot from us, but it taught us 214 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 2: a lot. You gotta know the difference between healthy relationships 215 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: with things productive relationships with things. See, we come from 216 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 2: having so little will take any relationship? Is it paying 217 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 2: the bills? You better not with my plug. I know 218 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: that adjusts me to listen. It's part of the street. 219 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: This is part of then what I'm trying to tell 220 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 2: you my name. You gotta remember that this system need 221 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 2: some of these boys in and come out the streets, 222 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 2: and I'm the I left the game. I beat the game. 223 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 2: Then why I can talk like this. I didn't get 224 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 2: my money from entertainment. I didn't get my understanding from entertainment. 225 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 2: I got my understanding from the game. It taught me that, 226 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 2: oh shit, this shit ain't really what they say. Oh god, Lee, 227 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 2: I'm finding it out in real time. I remember one 228 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: time allegedly dealing with some guys, and I'm cool with 229 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 2: everybody involved. One time I pull up, it's a dude outside. 230 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 2: He's sitting on the porch. What he's sitting on the 231 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: porch doing long, I don't know. I don't pay no 232 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 2: attention to him. Everybody over here is my people. I 233 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: go in there, take care of the beising to come 234 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 2: back out next week. Come to find out they doing. Man, 235 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 2: Come on, man, it's you learn in real time and say, 236 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: oh they oh this ain't you learn in real time. 237 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 3: But it's important that you know. You're survivor of the streets. 238 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 2: So when you say without explaining to him what you meaning, 239 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: it's like you're punching down, and I get it. These 240 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 2: young boys ain't punching down. They really trying to lift up. 241 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 2: But you can't oversimplify. You need to get some OG's 242 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 2: on the phone. You can't oversimplify this process. This is 243 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 2: a complex conversation. You say things like that, and people 244 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 2: stuck in the streets think you cursing them. They don't 245 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: think you cursing the system that got them trapped. And 246 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 2: so I also want some of you old, unreasonable dumb 247 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 2: ass out there to have some patience. The is in 248 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 2: their twenties that's trying to push this kind of movement, 249 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 2: that's trying to change some of the minds of the youth. 250 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 2: It's up to us to put some game next to it. 251 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 2: But at the same time, I understand that fame shrinks 252 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 2: your perspective and so you cannot make these kind of 253 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 2: decisions by yourself. And so I'm never upset about what 254 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: was said. I'm just smart enough to understand that vague 255 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: truth turns into friendly file. And so I'm explaining to 256 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 2: y'all how it turned into friendly file, how people took 257 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 2: it as friendly file, because when they hear you say 258 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 2: the street, what they gonna hear you say some of them, 259 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 2: whether intention or not, some people are gonna hear you say. 260 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: The people, the responsibility, the reputation, and you gotta remember 261 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 2: the magnet that the streets are. 262 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 3: Some people see. 263 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 2: This is how you really know I got all I 264 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 2: got from the street because guess what, my mama really 265 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: grew up in the ghetto. I grew up in the ghetto. 266 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 2: This is how you know. I don't never gotta take 267 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 2: a picture in the ghetto again. Outne been there out 268 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 2: most of my life. You will see another go off 269 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 2: and make three and four hundred me and then he 270 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 2: want to go stand in the ghetto. He gets a magnet. 271 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: It ain't no place like home, they say. But I 272 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 2: had already been through what these young boys just going through. 273 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 2: Once you've been told on, once you done lost your people, 274 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 2: once you done walked in on the robbery gone bad, 275 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 2: once you done bury with this dude, Come on, my nick, 276 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: once you're done been broken down so much, you understand 277 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 2: the consequences. Man, I don't never got to see it 278 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 2: no more. Thank God for these smiles he putting on 279 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 2: these folk faces. Thank God for these Mercedes benz Is, 280 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 2: these rolls rosses, Thank God for these g wagons, Thank 281 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 2: God for these mansions, Thank God. Right we started to 282 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 2: thank God. Man, I don't got to be seen, but 283 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 2: what you will see is people can't let it go. 284 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: You gotta think people died off these rules. People in 285 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 2: the prisons right now, in and out of jail, off 286 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 2: these rules. And so they listening to their favorite rapper 287 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: that contributed to they hustle. They hustle contributed to they 288 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: prison sentence. So there's a proxy wark going on to 289 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: where people are saying, Yo, some of the rap shit 290 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 2: contributed to some of my actions. Now, I ain't saying 291 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 2: you responsible, but the atmosphere is right. I created an 292 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: atmosphere that encouraged me to get more money by any 293 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: means necessary. 294 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 3: With Jesus, I created an atmosphere. 295 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: To where I wanted to go step on my ops 296 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 2: for young boy you say, or whatever the case may be. Right, 297 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: So you gotta think about some of the people who 298 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 2: are who have put their life on the line for 299 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 2: some of these rules. But what we gotta tell them 300 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 2: me is we've been duped, We've been tricked. It's just 301 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 2: like that toxic boyfriend and the girl got you gotta 302 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 2: you gotta explain to her, girl, it ain't knowing he 303 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: beating on you like that girl, It ain't noringal. You 304 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 2: got a black eye. Woman, you gotta she don't man, 305 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 2: she don't get he paid the bills around here, John 306 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: ain't Did you understand me? So I'm telling y'all that 307 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 2: you gotta remember this is a This is a very 308 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 2: complex conversation. And so you got jail cycles, you got funerals, 309 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: you got even people that never had a clean exit. 310 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: So after you done left the streets and became a 311 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: multi minion, now I understood that backlash. So I give 312 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 2: them the benefit of the doubt that they're young and 313 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 2: going through it in real time and they're waking up again. 314 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 2: Tying it back to the interview, three hour interview, they 315 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 2: get into the snitching conversation. I think it was a 316 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: very counterproductive conversation. Seeing that you've been gone long and 317 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 2: you have an album out, you should have focused on 318 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 2: the music. Sixty ninety minutes got in and out of that. 319 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 2: If we won't to have one of those, we'll come back. 320 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 2: But right now on my rollout, we're focusing on the music. 321 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 2: That's why I'm saying, y'all, rappers also gotta stop just 322 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 2: coming to holler let us when it's album time, because 323 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 2: that's when we're gonna get some of that shit in. 324 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 2: You gotta come hoigh let us in between time. But 325 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 2: they had the conversation, he's this is his first time 326 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 2: kind of explaining it. 327 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 3: He goes off into the shadows and he comes back out. 328 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: Having that conversation in public is not gonna make sense 329 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 2: to the general public. And also, if you ever left 330 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 2: the streets, you really gotta understand that leaving the streets 331 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: for real street and it ain't an opportunity. A lot 332 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: of times it's a bill. It's started off as a bill. 333 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 2: Soon as a dude lead the streets, he going to 334 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: the hole. And that's what I'm saying. If you rich 335 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 2: and famous and sitting on podcasts, you may not really 336 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: look at it like that. You may say, man, whatever 337 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 2: it takes, we gotta do it. And that's true, you 338 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: gotta do it. But you can't cut your nose to 339 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: spite your face. You can't cut the only treat that's 340 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: get even you shay. You can't walk out a job 341 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 2: to nothing that's paying him. Right, we got to provide 342 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 2: an understanding of what we mean it. You know, all 343 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 2: the street rappers come out and say, man, you can't 344 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 2: say that. Man, you can't say that, And I get it, right, 345 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: I get it. But as a coach, I'm ask that 346 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 2: we be patient with some of the young guys and 347 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 2: understand what they're trying to say. And us, as elder 348 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: statesman in this game, if you have any level of understanding, 349 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 2: try to put some understanding under them and under the game. 350 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 2: But also I think that rappers have to have counsel 351 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 2: and for the right price, you know what I'm saying, 352 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: I come on people's team and act as an advisor. 353 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 2: You ain't got to do what I say. Do you 354 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 2: gotta run shit by me? Because what I tend to 355 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 2: think is there's not a lot of people that really 356 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 2: got their game from the game, and it's a hard 357 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 2: process and it's college. You didn't even know the triple 358 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 2: cross was a thing. Like I remember being a young boy. 359 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 2: I didn't know the triple cross was a thing. I 360 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 2: ain't no even a temple triple cross. Triple cross boy, 361 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 2: when triple cross on you, I'm talking about the person 362 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 2: in the middle didn't even know he would being cross that. 363 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 2: I think all of us are street. What I think 364 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 2: is some people got their street status through entertainment, because 365 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 2: don't get it confused, and can do some street stuff 366 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 2: through entertainment, right, You'll get to meeting the right people 367 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 2: and making some You can get a plug based on 368 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: who you is as a rapper. You understand, we listen 369 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: to your music, We like how you man. Come on, man, yeah, 370 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 2: we fuck with you. Right, we're just as a rapper. 371 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 2: But it's a different thing. When you had to crawl 372 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 2: up the mountain. You had to crawl up the mountain yourself. 373 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 2: You don't even know. You don't even really know when 374 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,719 Speaker 2: the drought coming. You don't know what a drought is. 375 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 2: You ain't never even been involved. You know what I'm saying. 376 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 2: You at a certain level, right, So it's just until 377 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 2: you get as you operate in any operating system. Twenty 378 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 2: one Savage comments on young Thug and Gunner, and we're 379 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: gonna talk about that whole situation because again I think 380 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 2: it's high level game that ain't being put down. Let's 381 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 2: pay attention to what twenty one Savage said about Thug 382 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 2: and to hear this, you better. 383 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 5: Be glad you stood over bited on the car. 384 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: All wait, wait, called it did They probably just didn't 385 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: put it. 386 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 4: I don't know. 387 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: So it's so big. 388 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 5: It might be you sound like you level headed though, 389 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 5: Bro on the calls. 390 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't feel like I feel like shout it wrong. 391 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 4: But I don't feel like he did it on purpose. 392 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 4: That's just my opinion. 393 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,239 Speaker 5: So why you ain't try to pass that up? 394 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: Why I don't feel like that could be passed up. 395 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 6: I tried to put them on group te ain't nobody 396 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 6: saying nothing. 397 00:19:58,560 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: I don't feel like. 398 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 4: I feel like all the way that to be patched 399 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 4: up is if Gunner say something to him. But I 400 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 4: just Slim didn't do nothing wrong to me. I can't 401 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 4: that situation kind of see. The only situation. The only 402 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 4: only thing I told Slim was this your young man. 403 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 4: You know this young right? 404 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 5: Yeah? 405 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: You knowing your heart? 406 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 5: God damn. 407 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 1: Then I can't say. 408 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 4: That neither, because it'd be like I'd be like going 409 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,239 Speaker 4: back and forth about this because in my heart, I 410 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 4: don't feel like. 411 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: He did it to hurt him. 412 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 4: But then again, I feel like do do anything to 413 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 4: get out sometimes too, do get in that space in 414 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 4: their head where it's like, Bro, I'm ready to come home, 415 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 4: But this is how I think he was thinking like 416 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 4: this is my opinion. 417 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,959 Speaker 1: I feel like Gunner was thinking his head by ain't. 418 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 2: I just want to be clear, reiterate what I said earlier. 419 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 2: You get to explain to some of this stuff and say, 420 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 2: y'all did what Nah? I just broke him off, jak. 421 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 2: He was a homeboy. He ain't do nothing now, my homeboy. 422 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 2: He now he get twenty percent JET because he well 423 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 2: for what why you do that? But if you save 424 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 2: the street completely, when the industry done what, you ain't 425 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 2: got nowhere to go. I've seen rappers gotta come back 426 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 2: to the street. 427 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 3: Again. 428 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 2: Rappers have always been allies to the streets, and so 429 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 2: you got to be careful with your communication as a 430 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 2: big home, as a big in this space, you got 431 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 2: to talk with real perspective. The mistake wasn't in what 432 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 2: he was saying. It was oversimplifying it. But I want 433 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 2: you to understand right here how he's well, I can't 434 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 2: really say that because but nah, damn, I cat. I'm 435 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 2: telling you everybody that them being in the streets and 436 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 2: that had to make certain decisions at a certain time, 437 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 2: They've had these kind of encounters in their mind and 438 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 2: in their brain about something in the street that didn't 439 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 2: make sense, that didn't pan out, that was opposite of 440 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 2: what they told you. I remember being a young dude 441 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 2: man hustling, and she and me and my homeboy were 442 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 2: making a killing selling dying. Get with them old start 443 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: doing in the neighborhood. Man, them little boy ad me 444 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 2: selling dimes. So now they done tricked us how to 445 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 2: stop selling dimes. Guess who start selling dimes? Guess who 446 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 2: start catching our people? 447 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? 448 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 2: Them same old start catching our people. But the old 449 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 2: they told us it little boy me selling dime, You 450 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 2: ain't selling man. Come on, man with y'all. 451 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 3: Boy. 452 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: But see as I got older, I started saying, why 453 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 2: you don't see me rolling nobody? Don't let nobody influence me? 454 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 2: And those of y'all that know me that they said 455 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 2: they really like that for real? Hon't really like that 456 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 2: for real? You know what I'm saying, Like, I really 457 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,719 Speaker 2: don't let nobody influence me. I'm just a good nick Now. 458 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 2: I ain't saying I'm perfect, but I'm just I'm always 459 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 2: trying to be real and I don't want to be 460 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 2: tainted with you. I don't want to be influenced by you. 461 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 2: N I don't want to be backbiting like these two 462 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: facing and talking like this over here and talking. 463 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 3: Like that over there. 464 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 2: Man, whatever I'm saying, I'm saying whatever I'm saying, and 465 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: people know that about me, and hopefully if ring truth 466 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 2: for the rest of the people that follow me, and 467 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 2: we stand on integrity. That's another thing we got from it. 468 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 2: Responsibility is the highest form of manhood. This ain't got 469 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 2: nothing to due with street rules. Snitching don't. Responsibility is 470 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: the highest form of manhood. I tell my children take responsibility. 471 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 2: I teach them, little boys, you can't be dumb, and 472 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,719 Speaker 2: you better be responsible because kain't nobody save you. Now, 473 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 2: pay attention to what he said about Gunn. 474 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 4: In my heart, I don't feel like he did it 475 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 4: to hurt him. But then again, I feel like dude 476 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 4: do anything to get out. Sometimes too, do get in 477 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 4: that space in their head where it's like, bro, and 478 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 4: I'm ready to come home. But this is how I 479 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 4: think he was thinking. Like this is my opinion. I 480 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 4: feel like Gunner was thinking in his head. But I 481 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 4: ain't saying I seen slime do nothing. I ain't saying 482 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 4: no specific nothing that I seen nobody do nothing Like oh, 483 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 4: I seen this happen. I seen this person shoot this person. Uh, 484 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 4: I seen him lead to go kill him. I felt 485 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 4: like he felt like what he was saying wasn't really 486 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 4: snitching in his head, like it's just like saying some shit. 487 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: But saying that got down. 488 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 4: You've seen commit crimes on behalf of wid hell that 489 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 4: that's that's that's bad. 490 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: Bro, that's not good like that. 491 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 4: That don't it don't no matter your intention to the people, 492 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 4: to the world, well not to the world, because the 493 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 4: world switched. At first, they were saying, god damn, he 494 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 4: was wrong. Now they saying he right. But got down 495 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 4: to like like me and like gonna called me when 496 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 4: he first got out, bro, my mama, I was sitting 497 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 4: in the bed. He was like, Bro, what sounds like? 498 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 5: Boy? 499 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: Yo ho, boy, you're good. 500 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 4: I ain't even see the video yet. Boom got down 501 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 4: see the video? He called me. I think I think 502 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 4: he was leaving the jail or something. The first time 503 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 4: I talked to him, he just got in the house. 504 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 4: The second time he called, I think he was telling 505 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 4: me pull up like everybody was at his spot. 506 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: So goddamn. 507 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 4: I didn't seen the video now, so I'm telling him, like, bro, 508 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 4: that's this little bad to man, he like, man, the 509 00:24:58,880 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 4: lawyer tricked me. 510 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: Man ain't even know like ooo. 511 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 4: So I'm like, god damn, I'm like, shit, you can't 512 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 4: get a flee back because because before he before Gunn 513 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 4: even got locked up, he was calling me and I 514 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 4: would like when they put the shout like they was 515 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 4: looking for him, And I told him like, bro, don't 516 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 4: keep running, because that's that's gonna f up your chances 517 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 4: of getting a bond even more the. 518 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: Longer you got. 519 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 4: Now, I'm like, go ahead and turn yourself in and shit. 520 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 4: So god damn, I told him, like, shit, see if 521 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,959 Speaker 4: you can get a flee back like cause I'm telling you, 522 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 4: it's gonna make you look a certain type of way, 523 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 4: like to the public, like it's gonna stand you. I 524 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 4: believe you that you didn't know what you was doing, 525 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 4: but I can't really say that you didn't because you've grown. 526 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: But if that's what you're going with, I give you 527 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: the benefit of that. 528 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 4: The dot on that after relationship that we do got, 529 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 4: I'll let you say that to me, and I take 530 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 4: that for what it is, all right, Maybe he really 531 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 4: didn't know type shit, but at the end of the day, 532 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 4: how I look at the situation. I'm like, man, slime 533 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 4: should have never been saying certain shit like he should 534 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 4: have never broadcasted this to the internet and shit like 535 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 4: it could have been like a behind cluck like like 536 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 4: silent speak louder than anything sometimes, so just slim getting out. 537 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 1: And I'm saying like, ain't nobody with gunn today? 538 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 4: With no you get know what I'm saying, Like, that's 539 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 4: how you felt if you wanted, if your if your 540 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 4: intention was to let the world know that you don't 541 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 4: gunn and you never had to say it really publicly typed. 542 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 4: But I do understand being in their emotion sometimes and 543 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 4: moving off for emotions because do do that too type shit. 544 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 2: So savage love thug right, Thug is a good nick 545 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 2: though if you ain't if you've ever been around thug, 546 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 2: dude is a good nick I've been around him, and 547 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 2: that's why you know what I'm saying, Like even for me, Brud, 548 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 2: I really want to see the young niggas eat any 549 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 2: one of the young niggas. They go for Wham, nigg 550 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 2: go for Thug, they go for herb, they go for 551 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 2: any one of them. They gonna tell you when they're 552 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 2: around me. I don't pull no cameras out. I really 553 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 2: be trying to give them some game and understand whats 554 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 2: going on, because I'm really coming with it. I ain't 555 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 2: been locked up one hundred years. I've been out here maneuver, 556 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 2: and I come in with five cribs. Me and my 557 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 2: people come in straight. So I'm saying, like, all niggas, really, 558 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 2: I really got the game now. I ain't better than nobody. 559 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 2: I'm just experienced. I'm old, I'm an elder statesman, I'm 560 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 2: an ally. You understand what I'm saying. And I want 561 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 2: to see the young niggas eating build empires because the 562 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 2: stronger y'all live, the stronger the South fields. You understand. 563 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 2: You see when this kind of shit happened, don't nobody 564 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 2: come out and talk. I'm the only nigga with a platform. 565 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 2: They gotta come out and try to sweep the dust 566 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 2: under the rug. See nigga create a mess. I gotta 567 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 2: come out of yo. Hold on you hold on now. 568 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 2: This means that y'all hold on, slow down. Everybody else, 569 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 2: keep making they money, everybody else, keep moving because it 570 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 2: don't affect no nigga. But I understand, I'm the one 571 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 2: just left the streets. I left the streets. I didn't 572 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 2: come in through rapping and I didn't come I left 573 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 2: that shit. I left them niggas there and I know 574 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 2: they watching, and I know they need marching orders because 575 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 2: I needed marching orders and I still need them. I 576 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 2: ain't never got a phone call from a nigga in 577 00:27:54,960 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 2: the industry about nothing to do with business. A nigga 578 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 2: ain't never called my phone and said, Hey, Yo, loan, 579 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 2: he go a he go wrong way, man, make sure 580 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 2: y'all do that. Hey, he go woo the woo man, 581 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 2: Loan makes it. 582 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 5: Hey. 583 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 2: A nigg ain't never call me, And not that I 584 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 2: need him to call me, because I operate good, I 585 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,479 Speaker 2: make meetings, I operate straight. But it's just a slap 586 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 2: in the face knowing that I'm gonna always be the 587 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 2: nigga with the highest level of game that can even 588 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 2: explain this shit. 589 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: But you see. 590 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 2: Twenty one Seva is trying to explain the gunner situation. Listen, 591 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 2: there's a lot of dynamics that I've been waiting on 592 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 2: people to speak about as it pertains the thug and 593 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 2: gunner that I guess we're gonna try to brow some 594 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 2: of it. Today, the streets does not come with a handbook. 595 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 2: It's a very irrational, emotional, unstable environment. So the question 596 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 2: arising again, I want you guys to understand this ties 597 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 2: into the street shit because as he's explaining what Gunna 598 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 2: do and how other niggas done shit, and what happens 599 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 2: is it starts to be like, Yo, what what do 600 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 2: we do? 601 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 3: What we're millionaires? We beat the game? 602 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 2: Imagine beating the game and walking around with the George 603 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 2: stick still in your hand. 604 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 3: That what the young niggas doing. They done beat the game. 605 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 2: And so when you when you become a moti nigga 606 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 2: now figures up nigga bad mother f and you start explained, Man, Nigga, 607 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 2: I still got the George stick in my hand. Nigga, 608 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 2: it's the old system I was playing with, Nigga, I'm 609 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 2: playing with the new system. Now I'm playing with the 610 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 2: Come on, man, this y'all still got me. I done 611 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 2: beat the game. Y'all still want me to carry the 612 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 2: George stick now. I carry the memories of beating the game. 613 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 2: I carry the information that come along with beating the game. 614 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 2: I carry the side missions, the intail. You understand me, 615 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 2: I don't carry the circumstances from the game. I've already beat. 616 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 2: It's below my pay grade. I've always told nigga that 617 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 2: little boy Larry Crime shit, y'all doing that shit below 618 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 2: my pay grade. They had a street nigga say, nigga, 619 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 2: do you know we've just done a big boy deal? 620 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 2: Do you know what kind of deals coming through this? 621 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 2: And y'all be bruh, that shit below a nigga paygrade. 622 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 2: But because we come from understanding all of black experience, 623 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 2: not just the criminal elements. This was why we was 624 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 2: always critical of people like academics and Adam and some 625 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,719 Speaker 2: of these other guys when they spoke on certain topics 626 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 2: trap Lord Ross and others. Is that, hey, brother, respectfully, 627 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 2: you lack the experience to understand such a complex situation. 628 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 3: Well, how complex could it be? It'll take me years, bro, And. 629 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 2: So we try to have consideration for the part of 630 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 2: black culture that they leave out unless they want to 631 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 2: sell them something. You notice that they'll come bill too, 632 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 2: be off the black pole, nigga, But they don't give 633 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 2: no blame nigga, no real opportunity. 634 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 3: If we're not careful, there will be not one. 635 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 2: Black podcast out of the South that gets a big 636 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 2: deal like that. 637 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 3: If we're not careful, Charlemagne don't count. 638 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 2: He's in exact, he's been gone on, he's Hall of Fame, 639 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 2: he's the goat. Niggas know I deserve them big deals 640 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 2: and we're gonna work for it. But if we're not careful, 641 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 2: I'm telling you it's an intentional systematic environment in place 642 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 2: to what people from the South, as influential as they are, 643 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 2: are not valued outside of the customer sheet. And I 644 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 2: won't participate in those kind of deals. And so it's 645 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 2: gonna be a little bit interesting how we maneuver forward. 646 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 2: But I do want to say this. Twenty one Savage 647 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: is doing his best, says explaining the gun and thug situation. 648 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 3: I want to go back into it to watch a 649 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 3: little more pay attention. 650 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 4: But god damn, he could have He could have just 651 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 4: not said nothing and they would have went off that 652 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 4: type shit. 653 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 6: I look at it like this, I look at it 654 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 6: like this. I feel like. 655 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 4: What he did, he didn't necessarily snitch on the like 656 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 4: say this did this. But you saying you're helping them 657 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 4: prove that theory, what you did help them prove that theory, 658 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 4: whether whether they were gonna use it or not, like 659 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 4: keep saying, oh, they wasn't gonna use it. B y'all 660 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 4: don't know juror's watch. Bro, They're not supposed to. But 661 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 4: jurors sees on the internet. 662 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 5: Bro. 663 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: So if the jury seeing a headline where Gunner. 664 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 4: Saying, god damn, yes, this is a gang and god 665 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 4: damn committed crimes, people see that. I don't know if 666 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 4: he did it intentionally. I don't feel like that, like 667 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 4: just my vibe from him, I don't feel like that that. 668 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 4: I do feel like he wrong because definitely, when all 669 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 4: this said and done, Bro, before Slime even started tweeing 670 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 4: when he got out, he was quiet for a minute. 671 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: He didn't say nothing for a minute when he first 672 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: got out. Man, car that the phone. 673 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 5: You're right, You're right about that. You're right about that 674 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 5: one hundred percent. 675 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 6: And I feel like they would have probably held a 676 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 6: conversation if you gotta think I'm already hearing you from 677 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 6: jail saying niece, Remember. 678 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 5: They leaked the call in first. He was like, Bro, 679 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 5: put the shot man, I need to dish the ball 680 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 5: on the album. Whatever, right, they had already put that out, 681 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 5: so we already knew. 682 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: But but but this how I operate. Bro. 683 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 4: Let me talk to you, just me as a man, 684 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 4: not even that. I'm not judging you off none. I 685 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 4: don't post to hear just as a man. I don't 686 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 4: care what you tell Shan Taira about me in the bed. 687 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 4: You might say, let man trip it. Man keep talking 688 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 4: for the tripping. I don't suposed to hear that. Man, 689 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 4: that's you and your girl talking. So I'm not gonna 690 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 4: hold that against you. Well, I know it like and 691 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 4: hear it and be like down he said, yeah, but 692 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna hold that against you. So even Slime 693 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 4: saying this while he locked up, you know you don't. 694 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 4: For one, don't supposed to be hearing it, and for two, 695 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 4: what you did was wrong. So just take that on 696 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 4: the ship. I agree with that, see what I'm saying. 697 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 5: I agree with that. 698 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 6: I just feel like me personally, I feel like they 699 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 6: would have been able to help, like you said, egos involved. 700 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 5: Now it's like what I'm gonna come say nothing? 701 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 6: You already showed me for me, and I feel Slime 702 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 6: is like, I can I can? 703 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 5: I can? 704 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 6: I can forgive an enemy before I can forgive a 705 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 6: friend that I feel like crossing easy because you you ain't. 706 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 707 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,399 Speaker 6: So I can forgive you easy like he asked me that, 708 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 6: Like how you can say it's cool. 709 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 5: Owe me no launch. I wasn't ready to die and 710 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 5: go to chain. Ain't for then? 711 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. They don't even am still. 712 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, were cool, but we ain't cool. 713 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 6: But a person that I really genuinely took in and 714 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 6: loved you. It's like, I ain't gonna bait it get 715 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 6: back there with you. He gonna be worse us trying 716 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 6: to patch some stuff. So I see it from slin side, 717 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 6: and I see it from gun side for us. 718 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 5: Bro ain't then, Like I say, he already showed me 719 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 5: how he feel. 720 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 6: I don't know either one of them feel like this, 721 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 6: but I'm just saying I put myself in both of their. 722 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 5: Shoes if it was sly. 723 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 2: So there's been this looming questions. Should should Doug forgive Gud? 724 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 2: Which way should that go? 725 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 5: Right? 726 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 3: The street code thing is like the Bible. 727 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 2: It's been misused, it's been misrepresented, it's been repackaged, new Testament, 728 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 2: old tested like it's been tampered with in a way 729 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 2: where if you don't have your own understanding of it, 730 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 2: you could be led to believe certain things that may 731 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 2: or may not be the case. There's a lot of 732 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 2: things I think people are ignoring when it comes to 733 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 2: thug and gunner. The gun and thug thing is way 734 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 2: more complex than just didn't forgive each other. Get back 735 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 2: on stage. I'll get right back to the money. It's 736 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 2: way more. It's way more. It's way more complex than that. 737 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 2: And when I think about it out loud, if you're 738 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 2: thug and you made somebody of me, you know, you 739 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 2: gave them that career, took them on tour, you took 740 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 2: them in, you didn't really benefit like you should have benefited, 741 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 2: and then this ended up happening. They are discreaming, I'm 742 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 2: spposed to apologize, like I think it's absurd conversation to 743 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 2: even behaving. The unfortunately reality about all of this shit 744 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 2: is like, all right, these multi millionaire so it's a 745 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 2: different level. And they're trying to apply these small room 746 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 2: street codes, these small neighborhood street clothes on the global scale, 747 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 2: and I'm watching them try and I'm watching thug try 748 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 2: to apply the street cod on a global scale with 749 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 2: a nine figure brand. What do I mean when I 750 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 2: say that, Well, if you look at the reality of 751 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 2: the situation, young thug could have been up what fifteen 752 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 2: to twenty more million dollars for just if he would 753 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 2: have thrown under the rug on some business shit. But 754 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 2: now the street coat say, I gotta cut him off, 755 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 2: no matter how much money. But he got us stand 756 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 2: on there because I'm peeling that shit the baby too. 757 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 2: I'm telling baby, no matter how much. And so that's 758 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 2: what I'm saying when y'all saying he gotta forgive gun. 759 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 2: And now it's like, so, why y'all with baby in peace? 760 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:49,399 Speaker 3: Shit? 761 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 2: Now it's a conversation to have about that. That was 762 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 2: a bigion dollar run they was on. Why did they 763 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 2: get involved with that? Y'all saying street code suposed to 764 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 2: break all this shit down? And now y'all entertaining this. 765 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 2: I'm telling y'all this much more complex. Now do I 766 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 2: think it may be on the table, I don't know. 767 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, as much as 768 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 2: Thug try to stand on the cold and turn the 769 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 2: money down, turn the friendship down down there rip everything 770 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 2: he worked for for the last fifteen years down. The 771 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 2: only thing he had was gun on the outside. But 772 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,240 Speaker 2: because a street code, I'm cutting it off. That's poising, 773 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 2: he poising. My Well, it's over with. I'm cutting it 774 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 2: off for the street code. Then I get out and 775 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 2: they hold the same street code. Man, all this shit 776 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 2: started to sound stupid to me. This is where the 777 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 2: street shit come from. Because I financially provided a system infrastructure. 778 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 3: For it to become a millionaire. I didn't benefit from it. 779 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 2: I got a bond from it, but we didn't necessarily 780 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 2: benefit from it. Nobody's disputed that. Now, if they disputed that, 781 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 2: that's another thing. But nobody's disputed that thug didn't necessarily 782 00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 2: benefit from the gun of relationship from a financial perspective. 783 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 2: So we went into this on some street shit. I 784 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 2: took you in on some street shit, and then I 785 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 2: try to uphold the street code. Come out of jail 786 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 2: to spent all my goddamn money. That don quieted my 787 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 2: career down. I put myself, set myself back. I'm on probation. 788 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 2: I cut off the only thing making money for the 789 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,879 Speaker 2: street code. Most of these had the same corner store 790 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 2: with it. They read it on them, the same Kroger, 791 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 2: the same city, the same clubs, And he said, oh shit, 792 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 2: you're gonna look up and be the only one standing 793 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 2: on it. 794 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 3: I told y'all, i'vene been through it. I've been through it. 795 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 3: You're gonna look up. You the only still standing on 796 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 3: real shit. 797 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 2: Everybody else donfolded, and they don't put the excuse it 798 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 2: in their pocket. Whatever that excuse be, they can justify 799 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,720 Speaker 2: and they move on with their life and time going 800 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 2: time going, time go. And now you're dealing with the 801 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,479 Speaker 2: heartbreaker what if and what could? And what thow man? 802 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:04,399 Speaker 2: So again that's the part that they said. It's detrimental 803 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 2: to the mindset, the mind frame, the mentality. And so 804 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 2: not only are you dealing with that thug is in 805 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 2: a situation where again I've dissolved or deals with the 806 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 2: guy as it pertains to money being made. I haven't 807 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 2: oddity in anything. Just based on the street code. I 808 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 2: beat the case of mouth based on the street code. 809 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 2: I quit with him. They don't even talk about their sacrificing. 810 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 2: I ain't heard one to even talk about that man. 811 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 2: Thug wildn't even take the money. And that's why others 812 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 2: who standing with him, they gotta stand on that. 813 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 3: And so if we're doing that, we're doing that. 814 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 2: And so again, undoing this is way more complex than 815 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:44,399 Speaker 2: just y'all hugging. You get what I'm saying. On top 816 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 2: of that, Thug is dealing with some people he truly 817 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 2: loves his father. Is someone Thug loves his father, He 818 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 2: loves his family. Some of them people still are off 819 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 2: with Gunner. 820 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:56,800 Speaker 3: So what do you do when. 821 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,919 Speaker 2: You're a multi million dollar Your family is all you got, 822 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 2: Your family is all. 823 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 3: You got them for. Won't let gonna go. You gotta 824 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 3: fight through that. 825 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 2: I gotta fight through the street code, fight through the 826 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 2: money I could have made, fight through and all this 827 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,240 Speaker 2: all come on my knee. Y'all ain't even talking about 828 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 2: this part, uh, And so this ain't just snitch and talk. 829 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 2: This is my sacrifice. You prospered and you moved on, 830 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 2: and so you just gonna move on. And so we 831 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 2: ain't gonna recognize to provide an in balance that was 832 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 2: there when we started this thing of ours, all the 833 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 2: sacrifices I made with you, right, I turned you all 834 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 2: the way up. And I know you might feel like that, 835 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 2: but I ain't heard it from you. And if you 836 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 2: gotta undo that we got a lot of shit to undo, 837 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 2: and they gonna see all this shit in real time. 838 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 2: This shit is crazy. But the streets ain't worth nothing. 839 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 2: I've been telling it that below my pay grade, and 840 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 2: I get it. When you say streets, you gotta be 841 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 2: intentional with it. Some of the rules, some of the 842 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 2: cold some of the bylaws, some of the behavior that 843 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 2: keeps you going back and forth to PRIs and some 844 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 2: of the murders and families that's been affected by, some 845 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,720 Speaker 2: of the irrational behavior over streets that people don't own, 846 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 2: over colors and bandanahs that's only sold even in these neighborhoods. 847 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,879 Speaker 2: You can't buy a bandann in Bellevue. You can't buy 848 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 2: bandwn in Green Hills. You understand me, And so you 849 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,799 Speaker 2: start to notice things, And so if I'm thug, I'm 850 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 2: looking at y'all, say how much y'all want me to 851 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 2: lose on the streets. I love the streets. I come 852 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 2: from the streets, the inner city, I come from it. 853 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 2: How much y'all want me to lose for I lost 854 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,240 Speaker 2: my empower, lost all my homeboys, I lost my twin, 855 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 2: my best friend, I didn't get no business. I'm on 856 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 2: probation and so if I'm thug and I look at 857 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 2: my life, because he probably one of the only rappers 858 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 2: that really don't been through some street. So now he 859 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 2: get to look at his life through a lens that 860 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 2: a lot of guys who come from the street now saying, Ah, 861 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 2: this shit waged more serious than what people were saying 862 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 2: it is. So now if I if I really stand 863 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 2: on street cold, I gotta cut my father off. I 864 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 2: gotta cut that person off to do music where I 865 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 2: cut that produce off, I gotta cut this. I gotta 866 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 2: cut They want me to lose everything off of street 867 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,320 Speaker 2: code that will give me nothing. 868 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,720 Speaker 3: The street code to give me nothing. At this level, 869 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 3: it's equivalent to mountain climbing. 870 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,919 Speaker 2: Some bag is saved you at the bottom and kill 871 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,959 Speaker 2: you at the top and weigh you down at the top. 872 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 2: You gotta share certain street shit as you get more 873 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 2: and more money, as you get more older, you gotta 874 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 2: shed certain shit. You keep your integrity and morals intact. 875 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 2: But you said certain shit as you get further up 876 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 2: the mountain. These are still climbing with souvenirs from the streets. 877 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 2: You climb with essentials, things that's gonna help you where 878 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 2: you're going to where you at. You don't climb with 879 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 2: no bunch of souvenirs. You need a harders, right, You 880 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 2: still holding on all this shit? 881 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 5: Man? 882 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 2: Listen, man, the same cold that made sense on the 883 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 2: corner though, Man, he don't make sense in the corporation. Man, 884 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 2: it's so the streets campaign. You gotta be clear with 885 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,760 Speaker 2: your message. You cannot oversimplify this message. You're under explain 886 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 2: it all right. 887 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:10,359 Speaker 1: I love this depth. 888 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,359 Speaker 5: If I was I'd be like, I love this to depth. 889 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 6: But I can't trust you, bro, because when I was 890 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 6: at my Lord, you chose you instead of us, right, 891 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. However, we look at it 892 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,319 Speaker 6: if you're right or wrong whatever he said, And that's 893 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 6: whatever to me. That's how I would feel. And I 894 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 6: done went out there too far to turn against you. Like, 895 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:32,399 Speaker 6: but I look at Gunna on. 896 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 4: The other head like, I don't think that's that. That 897 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 4: was slying real feelings though. 898 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:37,879 Speaker 1: I don't either, I know. But he went out there 899 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 1: like that. 900 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, he went out there after some out of time 901 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 4: because he got pissed off. 902 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 5: Now he went thrill. 903 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 1: No he didn't. 904 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 3: He went out there from jail. 905 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 1: He went out there. Yeah, you're talking about in that way. 906 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 4: I'm talking about when he got out, when he had 907 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,760 Speaker 4: the opportunity confused him just saying rap rap rat is gunna. 908 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 4: Gunn ain't the only that told on that case. So 909 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 4: every time he said rat, they just automatically applied to 910 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 4: the gunner. He ain't really start saying specific till later, Bro, 911 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 4: And I feel like he did that because he, like 912 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 4: my goddamn daddy, put us in a group chat and 913 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 4: you ain't saying nothing. I don't got to respond to 914 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 4: the group chat first. You did me wrong, So you like, 915 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:20,280 Speaker 4: this is what problems be, Bro. The little brother always 916 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:25,919 Speaker 4: struggled with being able to be like take they discipline 917 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 4: as the little brother cool with being a little brother 918 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 4: when his money success, when they up, it's like, no, 919 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 4: I'm a man too. Yeah you're a man, but you 920 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 4: still love brother. So you're supposed to come back around. 921 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 4: Take your whatever your discipline is your God damn. 922 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 2: Speaking about the little brother conversation, I want to have 923 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 2: a quick dialogue about the savage tweets between him future 924 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 2: and then Thug and all of that. So twenty one 925 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 2: savage numbers were reported, and they were fifty nine thousand 926 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 2: for the first week, and then there was a tweet 927 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 2: by Future they said biggest in this shit, And then 928 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,439 Speaker 2: there was a tweet by twenty one Savage that said 929 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 2: the realist in this shit the biggest change out the time, 930 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 2: which is true. I want to talk about some of 931 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 2: that today. When I first seen that, I saw the 932 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 2: blog page just start to repost it, and people were 933 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 2: tagging me like, what's going on with this man? 934 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 3: What's up with you? Know how? 935 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 2: You know, just inter and that shit going on? And 936 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 2: so I looked at it. Future done pulled off on 937 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 2: everybody that's clip for Future. Gotta be careful that he 938 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 2: don't make me pull a we don't trust you on 939 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,880 Speaker 2: you right, kind of like the move that they pulled 940 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 2: on Drake because you the helder Statesman. We're looking for 941 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 2: some big homie moves from you at this point. We're 942 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 2: looking for you to wrap your arms around because it 943 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 2: ain't just hip hop is this shineas. We need a 944 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,280 Speaker 2: big homie like you that's in that kind of position. 945 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 2: And they've been getting money a long time. One of 946 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 2: the mortality artists that we have in the South can 947 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,800 Speaker 2: peep with them up north. We make them all respect 948 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,799 Speaker 2: you at least I do when I go to conversations 949 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 2: and they go highly top five, they got to throw 950 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,480 Speaker 2: something from the South that it's just how we moving 951 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,440 Speaker 2: right respectfully too, because I know it's talent all around 952 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,760 Speaker 2: the world, but this is just the game I'm playing. 953 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,839 Speaker 2: So we make them put your name, if nothing else 954 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 2: in their top five in the game and they say 955 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,360 Speaker 2: at any time, right, So we looking for us A 956 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 2: big homie moves that made a lot of money. It 957 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 2: ain't just a Lona, It ain't just the South. Hip 958 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 2: hop has lost the sense of community. Everybody want to 959 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 2: be bosses. Me, Mik and Quavo was talking the other 960 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 2: day behind the scenes at the Thud concert, and I'm 961 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 2: asking them why we ain't seeing a Why Sale, CBFW, Dreamchaser, 962 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 2: Migo Tour or some shit like why we ain't seen 963 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 2: like the rough Ride of Cash Money shit like what's 964 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,799 Speaker 2: going on? Anybody's striking out on their own because they 965 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 2: trying to make as much as they can. We gotta 966 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 2: start back having fun and create moments like some of 967 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,719 Speaker 2: the shit that go viral. Now, man, you will see 968 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 2: all them on the stage together. Them is the times 969 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,319 Speaker 2: that everyone has to get back to. I think we 970 00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 2: fractured the market, and so we need like future to 971 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,799 Speaker 2: let shit back together. He the only person that got 972 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,720 Speaker 2: the influence, got the catalog, got to reach, got the music. 973 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 2: Not the only person, but in one of the four fathers. 974 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 2: So I would say, as an elder statesman, I'm looking 975 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,799 Speaker 2: for some of that. So when I see them kind 976 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,879 Speaker 2: of tweets, I be disappointed, But I also know, Yo, 977 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:16,839 Speaker 2: we poppingized. 978 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 5: No. 979 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 3: I worked hard for this. We was all in competition. 980 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 2: We all in competition at the end of the day, 981 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,400 Speaker 2: but we in a fraction market, and we gotta be 982 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 2: careful that we don't turn the same people on us 983 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:31,439 Speaker 2: because we all share the same infrastructure. You being ain't 984 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 2: worth nothing, ain't no gas station in the community. We 985 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 2: all work together, you see what I'm saying, And so 986 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,720 Speaker 2: I try to try to tell that the infrastructure is important. 987 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 2: They gotta make sure they loon get these kind of interviews, 988 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,360 Speaker 2: these kind of looks when I'm backstage at the concert. 989 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 2: They got to make sure they locked me with Spotify, 990 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 2: lock me with Apple intentional because what we're doing is 991 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 2: we building infrastructure. So when they close the door on us, 992 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 2: we can climb back in through the wonder because one 993 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 2: thing for show, two things for certain. They'll lock you 994 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:11,399 Speaker 2: out this stadium. As Steve mcnell. If your production go down, 995 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 2: your productivity go down. 996 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 5: Man. 997 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 2: People don't feel from highre my net. We've saw people 998 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,720 Speaker 2: like Prince and Michael Jackson have to fight in this industry. 999 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 2: We got to keep that in mind. We build something beautiful. 1000 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 2: Let's not tag down because the egos and things. I'm 1001 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 2: speaking out of love, I'm speaking from information perspective. You 1002 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 2: understand me, because again, it's not just Atlanta. Look at 1003 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,240 Speaker 2: what they say about the Shisteed Bag and Big thirty. 1004 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 2: It's all around this shit, Bro, Jim Jones, Max Big 1005 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 2: Camera Like, It's just it's all around in the industry. Man, 1006 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:49,359 Speaker 2: we're lacking community and it's hurting our infrastructure. We all 1007 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 2: gonna always make money, but bro, we got to make 1008 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 2: sure that the people who are in position can put 1009 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 2: others in position and make sure that not to rock 1010 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 2: the boat. And so let me clear if I both 1011 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 2: sides of this has done a terrible job. I think 1012 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,680 Speaker 2: to hel the statesman in the game who understands what 1013 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,440 Speaker 2: the young boys is trying to push for you guys 1014 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 2: to intentionally misunderstand it for whatever cloud reasons or whatever 1015 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:14,759 Speaker 2: it is that you got going on. Some of you 1016 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,319 Speaker 2: as old men too, I'm gonna get at that. But 1017 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,759 Speaker 2: at the same time, I do believe the rappers have 1018 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 2: to have counsel, they have to have advisors. You got 1019 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 2: to have people around you that understand things that you 1020 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:26,280 Speaker 2: haven't encounter. 1021 00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:26,879 Speaker 3: Right. 1022 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:28,799 Speaker 2: And this is not an ego thing, and this ain't 1023 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,279 Speaker 2: a big looking anything. This is just about information. It's 1024 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 2: too much money at stake. 1025 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:34,399 Speaker 3: Right. 1026 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,880 Speaker 2: When you got dummies around you, you risk everything you 1027 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 2: work for. You understand me, So you got to put 1028 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,840 Speaker 2: people around you that know something about something, you know 1029 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 2: what I mean, People that really win it, done something 1030 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,239 Speaker 2: with something right, started with nothing, know what it's like. Right, 1031 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,879 Speaker 2: I'm saying, some of y'all got people around you that's 1032 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,959 Speaker 2: gonna lead you into a war. They ain't willing to fight. 1033 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,319 Speaker 2: They gonna sit back and watch you drown. They'll sit 1034 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 2: back and watch you go to war. And they ain't 1035 00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,279 Speaker 2: gonna fight the war with you, but they'll lead you 1036 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 2: into the wars. They even play the drums in the background. 1037 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 2: You can even hear war cris coming from them, but 1038 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 2: they won't participate. You gotta be careful, so That's all 1039 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 2: I'm saying. And also with the rappers, you can't oversimplify 1040 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,279 Speaker 2: such a complex message. And if you do plan on simplifying, 1041 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 2: you gotta really sit down and come up with how 1042 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:15,839 Speaker 2: you gonna do that. 1043 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:16,759 Speaker 3: Right. 1044 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,319 Speaker 2: The streets is not a place though, and so there's 1045 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 2: a lot of people out there that's going back and 1046 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,320 Speaker 2: forth many eve rap right. We ain't letting no escape 1047 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 2: the cold. We ain't letting no escape the integrity side 1048 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,399 Speaker 2: of it. Listen, cain't no rapper change that. Them rap 1049 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 2: boys know that you ain't got to even tell them that. 1050 00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,239 Speaker 2: They know they ain't bigger than the program. They don't 1051 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,359 Speaker 2: even you understand me. They know they influential, got money, 1052 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 2: they really, but they know they ain't over the program. 1053 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,759 Speaker 2: So for people to try to even twist it like 1054 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,840 Speaker 2: that for me is irresponsible. And then what hurst my 1055 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,719 Speaker 2: heart is is because I'm in the game. I left 1056 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,759 Speaker 2: the game, right, and I left with no scars. I 1057 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:58,400 Speaker 2: left with the prize. Yeah, I left with it. So 1058 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,920 Speaker 2: I don't really be wanting to hear none about nothing, right. 1059 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,800 Speaker 2: I ain't come in this big and barn and stealing, 1060 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 2: and I ain't come crawling, So I don't got that 1061 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,080 Speaker 2: kind of vibration about me. 1062 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,760 Speaker 3: I don't care who you is or where you're from. 1063 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,839 Speaker 2: And I'm especially disappointed in some of y'all that I 1064 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,239 Speaker 2: know is real ones that really don't been through something, 1065 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,520 Speaker 2: because I understand in this game there's a lot of rappers, 1066 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,440 Speaker 2: and it's a lot of acting like they've been a 1067 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,840 Speaker 2: part of things entertainment introduce them into the world and 1068 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,400 Speaker 2: the lifestyle. They just got the top of the life. 1069 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,640 Speaker 2: They ain't get all the way to the roots. They 1070 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,240 Speaker 2: ain't go all the way. They ain't have to climb 1071 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 2: out to mon volcano. So I get that, But y'all 1072 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:40,759 Speaker 2: that don't really win and face charges. You really had 1073 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,400 Speaker 2: to go down the road and leave your children. You 1074 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,759 Speaker 2: really don't sacrifice your career and coming back with this 1075 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:52,560 Speaker 2: message is irresponsible. Now Seven's done a bad job with 1076 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 2: presenting it, but you done an even worse job with 1077 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,359 Speaker 2: being big homies in the situation. It wasn't even three 1078 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 2: weeks ago. I was just arguing with y'all white about yo. 1079 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 2: It's a lot of mascots in the game. They on 1080 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:09,319 Speaker 2: the team, they in the sport, and they argue me 1081 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,279 Speaker 2: up and down this day and age. They don't let 1082 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 2: rappers be mascots. But that's a different story. What hurts 1083 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,800 Speaker 2: my heart and hurts my feelings is because I know 1084 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,080 Speaker 2: every I know that went down the road and done 1085 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,680 Speaker 2: thirty years about this street shit stood tall, ain't never 1086 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:28,480 Speaker 2: told on nobody faces clean, every every single one of 1087 00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:34,399 Speaker 2: us that come up in the game understand the game 1088 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 2: price tag is too much savage, oversimplifying the message, and 1089 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 2: so it made it feel like the streets is a place. 1090 00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:48,400 Speaker 2: The streets ain't a place. The streets is a price tag. 1091 00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,120 Speaker 2: A lot of you the ain't paid nothing for that 1092 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,880 Speaker 2: street label. You need to shut your mond mouth. 1093 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:55,359 Speaker 3: A lot of you. 1094 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,680 Speaker 2: I've been bearing my friends since I was fifteen years old, 1095 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,880 Speaker 2: before real culture. I've been burying caring caskets since a 1096 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,839 Speaker 2: sixteen year old boy. I look at my children and 1097 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 2: I couldn't imagine them having to go through that. 1098 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,839 Speaker 3: And y'all telling me the streets paint good enough. 1099 00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,160 Speaker 2: Everybody talk about what the streets made them, and that's 1100 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,440 Speaker 2: why it is offended, because the streets made us what 1101 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 2: we are. 1102 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:21,799 Speaker 3: I get it. 1103 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 2: Nobody talks about what the streets stopped them from being, though, 1104 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,440 Speaker 2: and so there's a flip side and instead of us 1105 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,239 Speaker 2: start this fight between one another. We gotta understand that 1106 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 2: there's a mission in place. There's things that needs to happen. 1107 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 2: Number One, you can't you can't override the program. Young, 1108 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,319 Speaker 2: you young powerful. We love y'all, our children, love y'all, 1109 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,160 Speaker 2: y'all some of the right We with that, but you 1110 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,000 Speaker 2: can't override the program. You gotta have old geez real 1111 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:57,279 Speaker 2: in the building with sins two right, and then on 1112 00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,720 Speaker 2: the other side, you old that want to just connect 1113 00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,879 Speaker 2: from my youth for any little misunderstanding when they going 1114 00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,719 Speaker 2: through it in real time. I always said this and 1115 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,400 Speaker 2: get and listen. You hit me in this episode explained 1116 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,000 Speaker 2: how much they want thrug to give to the streets. 1117 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,280 Speaker 2: All bullshit acide we talking my street code. This is why, 1118 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,239 Speaker 2: this is why SEVA is coming out with the street shit, 1119 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 2: because it's starting to make Man, this shit, Man, this 1120 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,800 Speaker 2: price tag too much. Man, what they won't God damn 1121 00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 2: if I'm young thug man. I went and made gun 1122 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,600 Speaker 2: to menion and I ain't make nothing. I ain't make 1123 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,160 Speaker 2: what I was suposed to make. I ain't do the 1124 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,640 Speaker 2: industry standard deals. I ain't get no money like I 1125 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,600 Speaker 2: was supposed to get off of them. I embraced him, 1126 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 2: put him on records. You know what it took me 1127 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,080 Speaker 2: to get where I'm at. I've been through three four, five, 1128 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,880 Speaker 2: six bad deals. This shit wasn't built like it was 1129 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,840 Speaker 2: when these come in and get the money. They first 1130 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,640 Speaker 2: deal was golden, some of them to rich, homie quawns, 1131 00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,120 Speaker 2: the young thugs them had to go through bad deals, 1132 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,080 Speaker 2: the reds, Deshawnce they got. Man, come on, man, if 1133 00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,440 Speaker 2: you don't understand how the infrastructure was built, and this 1134 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,160 Speaker 2: the found dation, it's standing on Gucci and them trying 1135 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:02,719 Speaker 2: to figure it out. 1136 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:06,080 Speaker 3: Pete trying to figure it out. Coach, jeez, everybody. 1137 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 2: Right, it's a lot going on, and so thug get 1138 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,920 Speaker 2: in a situation where I fight through all that and 1139 00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,600 Speaker 2: still come out rich. A lot of these niggas buried 1140 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,880 Speaker 2: in bad deals. You never heard of them again. You 1141 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,360 Speaker 2: get them one two singles day out of here. We 1142 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:24,680 Speaker 2: fall through every bad deal. Finally got on, gained the 1143 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:29,640 Speaker 2: worldwide audience. People fell in love with the movement. I 1144 00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,279 Speaker 2: bring this young man on, behalf of a real n 1145 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 2: I make him a million. 1146 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:36,120 Speaker 3: Now. I started throwing them. 1147 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,560 Speaker 2: I started putting him on songs with Travis Scott Guccie man. 1148 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,719 Speaker 2: They don't know who he is, but I believe in him, 1149 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,719 Speaker 2: and the homie brought him to me, and we honor that. 1150 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,719 Speaker 2: No matter how big we get in this game, we 1151 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,359 Speaker 2: hon a real That's why I can call Spider and 1152 00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,360 Speaker 2: as I can call Wham, I can call some of 1153 00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:52,960 Speaker 2: these and they gonna get it done. 1154 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,920 Speaker 3: No matter how big they is, they honor real Nie. 1155 00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 2: So when a real nick put you next to him 1156 00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:04,400 Speaker 2: right now with this, I turned him my all way up, 1157 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,680 Speaker 2: change his whole life. We end up catching the case. 1158 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,919 Speaker 2: They got him on one or two counts. He get 1159 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 2: down through there. He ended up slipping up telling on me. 1160 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,160 Speaker 2: He get down through that. His lawyer's them end up 1161 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,520 Speaker 2: putting him in a trick bag. He ended up going 1162 00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 2: to court saying something I'm battling with turning him all 1163 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,480 Speaker 2: the way up, sitting in jail. And now when I 1164 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,879 Speaker 2: get out, they want me to apologize to him. Now 1165 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,680 Speaker 2: what I done? Gave a street code. I done lost 1166 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,600 Speaker 2: little key, I lost Gunner, I lost my whole label. 1167 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,040 Speaker 2: I lost two years of my life, prime time in 1168 00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:36,239 Speaker 2: my career. I damned near lost my old lady. I 1169 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,440 Speaker 2: lost friends in this. I lost my baby. 1170 00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:39,719 Speaker 3: Mother. 1171 00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,759 Speaker 2: I had to bury people from the endside. How much 1172 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,640 Speaker 2: y'all want me to get a street cold? And I 1173 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,520 Speaker 2: try to get out of jail and not even take 1174 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:50,480 Speaker 2: no money. Let him go, still on the street cold. 1175 00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:56,240 Speaker 2: Now still on the street cold. But this shit starting 1176 00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,560 Speaker 2: to the price tag starting to shit. Man, if anybody 1177 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,560 Speaker 2: looked at the price taking the street code shit. 1178 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:05,160 Speaker 3: We've been talking to all our life and as you 1179 00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,719 Speaker 3: get older, all of us go through this. I don't 1180 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:08,640 Speaker 3: know no big homies. 1181 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,400 Speaker 2: It maybe I come from a thorough city because I 1182 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,560 Speaker 2: don't know no big homies that win it done. Thirty 1183 00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,840 Speaker 2: years in the fairs. Every single one of them is 1184 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,680 Speaker 2: saying preaching against the game. I don't know nobody that said. 1185 00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:21,440 Speaker 2: These rapness is masquerade. 1186 00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,720 Speaker 3: Man. These rapness is masquerade. Man. 1187 00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:29,360 Speaker 2: You understand, and I with some of these, but all 1188 00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,400 Speaker 2: of this, come on, man, let's keep it real with 1189 00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:31,880 Speaker 2: each other. 1190 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,600 Speaker 3: We love the streets, We from the streets. We are 1191 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:35,240 Speaker 3: the streets. 1192 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,280 Speaker 2: The streets is not just one thing, but that's a 1193 00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,520 Speaker 2: part of the streets that has indoctrinated the entire generation. 1194 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:52,240 Speaker 2: Kind of these fighting against that. We don't buy past 1195 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,880 Speaker 2: the colds. Nobody a brought the program won't buy past 1196 00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,080 Speaker 2: the colds. The cold is the cold. What it is is, 1197 00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,880 Speaker 2: what it is, ain't Nobody never looked at the price tag. 1198 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,600 Speaker 2: You need just spelling the cold. Ain't now one of 1199 00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:09,520 Speaker 2: you paid for that would be with me. And then 1200 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,320 Speaker 2: when I look around and see the rappers that I 1201 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:12,760 Speaker 2: know to. 1202 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,360 Speaker 3: Be real coming out and trying. 1203 00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,320 Speaker 2: To act like the streets is a beautiful thing as 1204 00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,000 Speaker 2: there a lot of times these facing trial, they do'e 1205 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:21,000 Speaker 2: lost their families. 1206 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:23,800 Speaker 3: But I get it. 1207 00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,280 Speaker 2: You can't denounce the streets because then they make it 1208 00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,200 Speaker 2: feel like everything that you work for was for nothing. 1209 00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,920 Speaker 2: And that's why you got to have your communication skills 1210 00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,480 Speaker 2: up when you had these kind of conversations. Young brothers. 1211 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,080 Speaker 2: You can't just run around pelling this kind of shit. 1212 00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:42,240 Speaker 2: You need like the prime minister in the building, right, 1213 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 2: we gotta think about these kind of things. This is 1214 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,200 Speaker 2: a whole put their life on the line for this. 1215 00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 2: So when you denounce it, you got to have clear instruction. 1216 00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:52,680 Speaker 3: You got to have. 1217 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:58,800 Speaker 2: Interpretation of what it's gonna be received. As homie, it 1218 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,960 Speaker 2: hurt my heart to see something they paid. 1219 00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:02,800 Speaker 3: The most price, too. 1220 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,120 Speaker 2: Paid all they been on death row and been going man, 1221 00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,280 Speaker 2: come on, man, two three murder charges pop out. We 1222 00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:15,760 Speaker 2: love the streets. What you had to kill? You once 1223 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,840 Speaker 2: loved your homeboy tried to rob you, you end up 1224 00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:24,040 Speaker 2: killing him. You said, dinners with your mother, knew some 1225 00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,760 Speaker 2: of these people you ended up in wars against. And 1226 00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:30,200 Speaker 2: so these that they have been on death row, they 1227 00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:33,440 Speaker 2: coming out and saying shit. But you know, I try 1228 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:37,760 Speaker 2: to explain to people, man, that the relationship that some 1229 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:44,160 Speaker 2: of us have with the quote unquote streets is it's 1230 00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:48,480 Speaker 2: like a toxic provider. It's like really high highs and 1231 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:56,520 Speaker 2: really low lows. But there is countless times where I 1232 00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,360 Speaker 2: have operated outside of the streets and understood that. Now, 1233 00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:01,520 Speaker 2: the only that gives me the edge on all of 1234 01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:05,000 Speaker 2: these people is because I'm from the street. Because I 1235 01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,640 Speaker 2: can learn everything that they know. It's send books somewhere. 1236 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 2: They've all been academically trained, So I can find a 1237 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,960 Speaker 2: person that knows what they know, or find books or 1238 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,240 Speaker 2: find courses. I can find the information they know, the 1239 01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:20,160 Speaker 2: things that I've encountered. The skill said that I've developed 1240 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:24,200 Speaker 2: because of the streets, they could never get. And so 1241 01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,680 Speaker 2: it gives me an edge just the way that I 1242 01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:31,240 Speaker 2: view life and how I interface with some of the 1243 01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:35,840 Speaker 2: interactions that you will see me positioned in. But no 1244 01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,600 Speaker 2: sign into the streets is worse than signing to the labels. 1245 01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:43,720 Speaker 2: If we're being real, The streets charge you for everything. Man, 1246 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,120 Speaker 2: ain't no free lunch in the streets. I don't care 1247 01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:51,960 Speaker 2: what it looked like. And so we appreciate the lessons. 1248 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:57,080 Speaker 2: We appreciate everything the streets has been able to teach us. 1249 01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,480 Speaker 2: But we got to get some information. We talking legacy talk, man, 1250 01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,560 Speaker 2: we're talking getting money. And so from my understanding of 1251 01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:08,640 Speaker 2: what he was saying, he wasn't denouncing the streets. You 1252 01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:12,160 Speaker 2: can't denounce the streets. A rapper can't denounce the streets. 1253 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,680 Speaker 2: For those industries. You know that you see the it's 1254 01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,960 Speaker 2: a lot of real thing' even we bruh salute to 1255 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,479 Speaker 2: them rapping. Let them change the youth mind. Can't stay 1256 01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,800 Speaker 2: out two and three years. Man, This street cycle shit 1257 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:29,040 Speaker 2: is ain't worth nothing, but the CODs is worth everything. 1258 01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,560 Speaker 2: And so all of y'all, of my little brothers, all 1259 01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,280 Speaker 2: of y'all, all of y'all is even on both sides. 1260 01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,880 Speaker 2: With all of y'all, I'm just giving the game. I'm 1261 01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,640 Speaker 2: here to get a game. I'm a little old I'm 1262 01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:46,240 Speaker 2: an elder statesman, and so you dig what I'm saying. 1263 01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,520 Speaker 2: My position is to try to break it down. Hopefully 1264 01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,680 Speaker 2: everybody gets something from it. But at the end of 1265 01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,000 Speaker 2: the day, man, as much as I've seen a lot 1266 01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,160 Speaker 2: of news come out and speak on behalf of the streets, 1267 01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:00,560 Speaker 2: and I understand it because again, if these he don't 1268 01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,000 Speaker 2: push back on the saying the streets, it feels like 1269 01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:08,440 Speaker 2: everything they ever live for, the dead homies, the jail stints, 1270 01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,560 Speaker 2: all of this shit meant nothing. We can't let nobody 1271 01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:16,280 Speaker 2: say that because it's our war wounds. It costs more 1272 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,400 Speaker 2: letting it get away with that, right, So you gotta 1273 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:23,200 Speaker 2: explain it like Tupac explained thug life, like Tupac explain 1274 01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,320 Speaker 2: n I g g A right. You gotta put an 1275 01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:30,000 Speaker 2: explanation behind some of your statements. That's why I'm saying, 1276 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:33,000 Speaker 2: outlet o freestyling, you gotta button it up. There's too 1277 01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,720 Speaker 2: much money at stake, this legacy we're dealing with, and 1278 01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,160 Speaker 2: so I'm just talking as an elders somebody that just 1279 01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:42,480 Speaker 2: give a game. But I just think you can't oversimplify 1280 01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,000 Speaker 2: the message. I understood what he was saying because we 1281 01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:49,200 Speaker 2: high leveled it, and we gotta address some of what 1282 01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:52,400 Speaker 2: the streets has done to us Dog and it's done 1283 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:55,440 Speaker 2: to the coach and done to the community. But it's 1284 01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:59,400 Speaker 2: gonna take me they can understand and articulate. And you know, 1285 01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,480 Speaker 2: I wish every body of the best. I hope every 1286 01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,040 Speaker 2: better win. Right, I'm looking at it for what it's worth, 1287 01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:09,720 Speaker 2: and I'm saying this here, nothing is bigger than your integrity. 1288 01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:14,800 Speaker 2: And it's been a billion dollars worth of game for sure, 1289 01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:17,440 Speaker 2: And so with future, I'm just putting that bug in 1290 01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,360 Speaker 2: his ill to just pay attention because competition is a 1291 01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,640 Speaker 2: more just pay attention to some of your moves. And 1292 01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:28,600 Speaker 2: but I'm just saying, right, just putting some game down. 1293 01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:31,480 Speaker 2: But as I'm looking at Savage, I know Savage is genuine, 1294 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,120 Speaker 2: and I know he rocked with Doug. I know he 1295 01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,680 Speaker 2: wish Sline, he wish Spider, and so we have the commonality. 1296 01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,080 Speaker 2: So I always view him from that perspective, and I 1297 01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:45,320 Speaker 2: always remember, like anytime he's speaking, he's trying to speak 1298 01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:51,320 Speaker 2: on behalf of the infrastructure that they've built. These young niggas, 1299 01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:55,800 Speaker 2: hubbs man, These ain't artists, these is young these is hubs. 1300 01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:56,440 Speaker 3: These nigs. 1301 01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,000 Speaker 2: Is all kind of shit is going on from each 1302 01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:02,439 Speaker 2: one of these gentlemen, powerful people. But I just want 1303 01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,960 Speaker 2: us to go back to the days of camaraderie, unity, 1304 01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:12,240 Speaker 2: making content, having good conversations, smiling, laughing and making money, 1305 01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,320 Speaker 2: dancing right and just doing things of that nature. Bro, 1306 01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,280 Speaker 2: I think we've we veered off the road, you know 1307 01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:22,160 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And yeah, so the streets campaign, man, 1308 01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,200 Speaker 2: I just wanted to put some clarity around it that 1309 01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,000 Speaker 2: it's never the streets as it pertains to the people. 1310 01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,680 Speaker 2: It's the streets as it pertains to the perspective, the 1311 01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,840 Speaker 2: mind state, the mindset. We have to get with our 1312 01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,720 Speaker 2: communicators and our orators in this culture and make sure 1313 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,120 Speaker 2: that when we are going to position these kind of narratives, 1314 01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:40,040 Speaker 2: we do it in a way that's conducive to the 1315 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:43,760 Speaker 2: people that's watching. Also the people who are intentionally trying 1316 01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:47,080 Speaker 2: to misrepresent what you're saying for the sake of financial 1317 01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:50,080 Speaker 2: gain or just to you know, be a contrarian. But 1318 01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:51,960 Speaker 2: you got to make sure to count for damn near 1319 01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,560 Speaker 2: everybody when you come out and make a statement of 1320 01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:58,280 Speaker 2: that magnitude, And it's never about cursing the trapped people 1321 01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:02,840 Speaker 2: it's about cursing the trap, and so I see how 1322 01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:04,760 Speaker 2: it come off his friendly fire. But I asked that 1323 01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:09,439 Speaker 2: y'all be patient. I asked that y'all be patient. These 1324 01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,160 Speaker 2: guys are dealing with this in real time, dealing with 1325 01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,520 Speaker 2: what the streets do to all of us in real time, 1326 01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:16,880 Speaker 2: in front of the world. And they're young, and so 1327 01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:20,680 Speaker 2: you know, put them in a position to get them grace. 1328 01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:23,440 Speaker 2: They do lead our youth out of their mind virus, 1329 01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:25,880 Speaker 2: and so y'all give grace to the young lords. Man. 1330 01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,040 Speaker 3: It's another episode of It's Up There Podcast. I see 1331 01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:30,040 Speaker 3: y'all in a few days. 1332 01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:32,240 Speaker 2: Make sure y'all make y'all clips, y'all share, y'all like 1333 01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:33,480 Speaker 2: y'all let them know you was there. 1334 01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,640 Speaker 3: It's up There podcast Leaders, you know it. Vibration