1 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: From Meat Eaters World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This 2 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: is Col's Week in Review with Ryan cow Calahan. Here's 3 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: cal I'm no fan of artificial intelligence, mostly because of 4 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: all the water and energy it needs to operate, which 5 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: is substantial. It's already an issue. It will become a 6 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: bigger issue. Pay attention, But now we have another reason 7 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: to be skeptical of the technology that will supposedly change 8 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: the world as we know it. Several states are reporting 9 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: that hunters are getting in trouble for relying on aipowered 10 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: answers to questions about hunting rags up. In Idaho, a 11 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: duck hunter got in trouble because an AI bot told 12 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: him the season started a day earlier than it actually did. 13 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: The wardens found that the search gave him an answer 14 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: that pulled information from a fail proposal, not the agency's 15 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: final decision or its regulations book. Wyoming Game and Fish 16 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: also told local media that they're concerned about hunters relying 17 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: too heavily on Google or Chat GPT before going out 18 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: into the field. An agency spokesperson told The Cowboys State 19 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: Daily that they've noticed AI generating incorrect answers about fish 20 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: and game regulations, and they encourage hunters to consult the 21 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: official rule book or just call and ask. I know 22 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: I'm speaking to the choir here, but I thought this 23 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: PSA might be useful. Also, if you've ever had trouble 24 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: figuring out how to hunt or fish without breaking the law. 25 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: If it feels wrong, it probably is. Supercomputers have trouble 26 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: making sense of game and fish rags, but they don't 27 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: know the feeling, nor will they be able to accurately 28 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: describe a crisp November morning in the woods waiting on 29 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: the sun to rise, the not knowing of what it 30 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: will shine upon big ol' antlers. Ideally, what could become 31 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: of a precious morning of your hunting season in the 32 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: woods does not know, so it cannot know how to 33 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: properly interpret those rigs. Get yourself an official rule book 34 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: and be sure you understand where you are at, what 35 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: you can do, and when you can do it before 36 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: heading out in the field. This week DC News, the 37 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: Crime Desk, Wolves, and listener Mail. But first I'm going 38 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: to tell you about my week, and my week has 39 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: been slammed. Gang First in local News, happy to report 40 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: that the Old Roadkill Cafe and McLoud Montana is in 41 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: new ownership and doing bustling business. Food was great. And 42 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 1: before someone writes in and says, stay out of my 43 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: hunting zone, chill baby. I was taking a rare November 44 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 1: afternoon off of hunting to take my aunt out for 45 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: her birthday dinner. Then I dedicated, not intentionally, but what 46 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: turned out to be the rest of the darned weekend 47 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: cleaning up for my past excursions. I pulled all the 48 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: grizzly bear meat out of the freezer and defatted it 49 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: properly packaged it made it look all nicey nice as 50 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: Steven Ronella would say. I'm worried that the fat is 51 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 1: going to turn sour before I can eat it all. 52 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: And I think I'm correct as that fat, to me anyway, 53 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: is a little more fishy than it was back on 54 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: the old Alaska Peninsula. Stirfry last night, kids, grizzly bear stirfry, 55 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: you know, like many of you are having at home. 56 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: Holy CAFs man, that is good, good stuff. I was 57 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: doing all my work calls and stuff while I was 58 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: defatting the big ham that I brought back and in 59 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: the meat eater kitchen, and then I prepped stirfry with 60 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: all the little off pieces, you know, stuff that you'd 61 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: typically throw in the grinder. But I'm just not gonna 62 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: have enough stuff to throw in the grinder, and you 63 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: don't want to waste grizzly bear meat. Right, It's gonna 64 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: be a long time before I get any more of 65 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: that my freezer. So yeah, just nice, simple stir fry. 66 00:03:55,960 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: Big on throwing corn starch into my stfry saw so 67 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: I just feel like it coats that meat a little 68 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: bit better, making a huge mess when you cook too. 69 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: So like get that walk out, get that oil super hot, 70 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: and you're like flash frying, trying to get like a 71 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: little bit of char and caramelization out of the sugars 72 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: in there when that meat hits the pan, and then 73 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: you know the balance, right is like you're steaming veggies. 74 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: You're taking a little bit of the bite out of them, 75 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: but you still want them snappy. Is your mouth watering yet? Anyway? 76 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: It's beef right, Like it's just good beefy like meat. 77 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: There are a couple of bites in there. Like you 78 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: said that we're a little fishy. I anticipated this and 79 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: didn't put any fish sauce or oyster sauce in my 80 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: stir fry concoction, which you know, Gang is typically just 81 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: salt and sugar makes the world go round in the 82 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: stir fry game, and slight variations on that, but that's 83 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: your base anyway. On top of the stir frag game 84 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: and the freezer rearranging and the cooler cleaning and the organizing, 85 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: I put up something like thirty quarts of antelope and 86 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: pheasant stock, which, my friends and neighbors, you can hustle 87 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: all you want, but you cannot hustle along the old 88 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: pressure cooker. Takes time, but I should be able to 89 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: get back into the woods or brush or pick your 90 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: riparian habitat for another adventure. Shortly, Old Snort is a 91 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: Jonesen and so am I damn responsibility Gang, big, huge 92 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: thanks to everybody. I really cannot believe the votes of confidence, 93 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: support appreciation that I've received regarding the announcement of CEO 94 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: incoming backcountry hunters and anglers and a lot of you 95 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: want to know what's next. Well, oddly enough, nothing radical. 96 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 1: We're going to keep building and growing our networks, meaning 97 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: broad diverse coalition building. We want to represent hunters and 98 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: anglers who were big, wide open public lands, waters and wildlife. 99 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: When you just can't be there yourself. It's an important role. 100 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: Nothing's guaranteed right now. Remember the lesson we learned over 101 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: the summer regarding public land sales in the budget reconciliation 102 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: fight the Big Beautiful Bill. I truly believe that hunters 103 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: and anglers led the way, but we won on that 104 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: particular issue because all the stakeholders came to the table 105 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: and demanded it. The sell off individuals were so far 106 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: in the minority that they scattered apart like leaves in 107 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: the wind, no friends to turn to. Remember we are 108 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: right to demand our public lands, waters and wildlife responsible 109 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: access to them, as well as the fact that we 110 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: are right to demand responsible management of these places and resources. 111 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: We are playing this for the long game, not the 112 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: next three years or the next four after that. I 113 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: believe America is going to go the distance. We want 114 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: our most valuable resources to do the same. Provide the 115 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: opportune unities we have today for those down the road. 116 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: They may not take advantage of those opportunities, just like 117 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: many do not today, but they'll have the choice, and 118 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: that's what matters to me. One thing you can do, 119 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: and one of the things BHA will continue to work 120 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: on is corner crossing. If you are using that method 121 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: of legal access, do so by foot only and as 122 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: expeditiously as possible. No loitering. Cross at the corner only 123 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: and keep it moving. We don't want any bad examples 124 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: to come out of this hunting season. All Americans won 125 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: a silly yet important fight at the Tenth Circuit. And 126 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: then when the highest court in the land scot Us 127 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: Supreme Court of the United States, essentially said corner crossing 128 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: has already been settled. We don't need to hear it 129 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: just a couple of weeks ago, that was another big win. 130 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: But nothing is guaranteed. Behave like access is ours to 131 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: lose because it is way back in the start of 132 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: the corner crossing fight, when old Fred Eshlman decided to 133 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: push the local county attorney there in Wyoming to prosecute 134 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: our Missouri hunters. It was a very important distinction to 135 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: make then as it is now that that is one 136 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: bad apple, one sour individual who wanted to put his 137 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: thumb in the eye of the American people and say 138 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: you can't walk from public land to public land. Eshelman 139 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: Ironbar Holdings is not representative of every land owner in 140 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: the US, not by a long shot. I'll tell you 141 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: the vast majority of folks I know in Montana. You know, 142 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: and I'm talking about like Montana folks, the multi generational 143 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: family ranchers, farmers. They allow access somehow, some way through 144 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: block management, our state private land public access program, plus 145 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: the old fashioned way knocking on doors, families, friends, trusted individuals. 146 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: I was just talking to a rancher last night who 147 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: guesses that he'll have over twenty successful non ranch owning 148 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: cow hunters on his place this season, but that place 149 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: isn't enrolled in block management. So my fear here, and 150 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: I see it. There's inklings of it that people who 151 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: aren't thinking are lumping all landowners together, and by so doing, 152 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: they're creating a public versus private thing, which is not 153 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: how wildlife in America works. And good old common sense 154 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 1: tells you that there's a mix of private and public 155 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: in your hunting and fishing life every year. So let's 156 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: be careful with our words and make sure that when 157 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: we talk about corner crossing, we are not talking about 158 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: all land owning individuals out there, many of which hunt 159 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: there's a hell of a lot of hunters out there 160 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: who happened to be landowners right in Rocket Science, my 161 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: home state. I would have loved for the state of 162 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: Montana to be proactive and be prepared for this and 163 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: have a statement ready to go this year. Unfortunately, Montana Fish, 164 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: Wildlife and Parks came out and said, in the eyes 165 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: of Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks, corner crossing is still illegal. However, 166 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: they really just turned every county attorney into a scapegoat, 167 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: and they said, well, it's up to the county attorney 168 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 1: to prosecute. And is that county attorney going to look 169 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: at ultimately three Supreme Court decisions, the ninth, the tenth, 170 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: and then Scotus's decision not to hear the corner crossing 171 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 1: case and say this is worth my time to prosecute. 172 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: I can't tell you the answer to that, but I 173 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: would think it would have to be a pretty damn 174 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: slow day in that county. However, just like our hard 175 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: working agricultural community out there, hunters don't want to see 176 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: trucks backed up at corners, impromptu parking lots, crowded rural roads. 177 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: We don't want to advertise spot burn corners to access 178 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: places that have been in dispute. We just want this 179 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: to be simple and normal, no fanfare. We got to 180 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: work together to make that happen. Obviously, there's some folks 181 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: here in the state of Montana who are a little 182 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: nervous about this, So we got to keep working. Form 183 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: those coalitions, talk with their friends in the AG community, 184 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: and see what type of language we need to make 185 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: those folks feel good about this means of lawful public access. 186 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: Moving on to the DC desk, there's not a whole 187 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: lot of good news to report out of our nation's 188 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: capital these days, but I am pleased by the launch 189 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: of the Senate Stewardship Caucus. The Senate Stewardship Caucus was 190 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: launched by one of my own Montana senators, Republican Tim Sheehey, 191 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: alongside a stalwart defender of public lands, New Mexico Democrat, 192 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: Martin Heinrich. According to Senator Shehey's office, becaucus aims to 193 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: drive bipartisan efforts to protect and expand access to public lands, 194 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: promote common sense land management policies, and support economic growth 195 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: in rural communities. Other inaugural members include Democrats Catherine Cortes Masto, 196 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 1: John Hickenlooper, and Chris Coons, as well as Republicans Tom Tillis, 197 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: Steve Daines, and Katie Britt. That's not a huge number 198 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: of senators, and I hope others will join, But considering 199 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: how divided the Upper Chamber is, it doesn't take a 200 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: whole lot of legislators to block bad legislation. Remember just 201 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 1: a few months ago, when Utah Senator Mike Lee tried 202 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: to sell off millions of acres of public land. That 203 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: bill was stalled in the Senate by just a few 204 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: Republicans joining their Democrat colleagues and refusing to vote for it. 205 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 1: If these four Democrats and four Republicans on the Senate 206 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: Stewardship Caucus hold fast to their commitment, they can block 207 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: a lot of the worst ideas from the folks who 208 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: care more more about their bottom line than protecting our 209 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: public land and all that they provide. We'll see what 210 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: happens here with this here caucus. I may not agree 211 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: with everything that they do or say, but the founding 212 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: members have approven track record, and I'm very glad to 213 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: see a formalized resistance to Mike Lee and those who 214 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: agree with him. Moving on, to the crime desk. The 215 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: main Warden Service is offering a three thousand dollars reward 216 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: for information of whoever killed the Canada Links in the 217 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: town of Perim last month. The dead cat was found 218 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: on October fifteenth on Mouse Island Road, and an investigation 219 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: revealed that it did not die of natural causes. Someone 220 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: shot it within twenty four hours of it being found, 221 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: and officials have described the killing as unnecessary, which means 222 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't done in self defense or to protect livestock 223 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: or property. Links are a federally protected species, so it's 224 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: a federal crime to grass, trap, hunt, or kill one. 225 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: Maine has more Links than any other state in the 226 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: lower forty eight and it's the only state in the 227 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: Northeast with a breeding population. That's due in part to 228 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: extensive cutting of spruce and fur in the nineteen seventies 229 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: and nineteen eighties following an insect outbreak twenty five years later. 230 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: This widespread cutting created a young, dense conifer forest, which 231 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: is ideal habitat for snowshoe hair, a Lynx's primary food source. 232 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: These days, there are likely over one thousand Links living 233 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: in northern and western Maine, though now there's one fewer 234 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: than there should be. If you know anything about what happened, 235 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: get in touch with Operation Game Thief at one eight 236 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: hundred alert us, or submit a tip online at MAINEOGT 237 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: dot org. A pair of salmon anglers in Washington State 238 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: are in the running for dumbest wildlife criminals of the 239 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: Year when they live streamed themselves committing multiple fishing violations. 240 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife Police said in 241 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: a press release that they got a tip about the 242 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: live stream from the Killeute River. Officer Macomber logged into 243 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: the street and sure enough, he saw two unidentified individuals 244 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: illegally removing salmon from the river and showing them to 245 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: the camera. The officer drove out to the scene, found 246 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: the boat, and ordered them to shore. The live stream 247 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: cut off in short order, but it wasn't enough to 248 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: save these geniuses from some pretty serious citations. Along with 249 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: using a barbed hook, one of the anglers had continued 250 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: fishing even after reaching his daily limit. This is illegal 251 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: by itself, but it's even more illegal to remove the 252 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: salmon from the water after you've reached your limit. Because 253 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: he did this to show off for the camera. He 254 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: was also cited for violating this rule speaking of doing 255 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: bad things on video. A South Dakota father is facing 256 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: three felony counts after a video went viral of him 257 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: berating his son during a hunting trip. The video shows 258 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: Corey Cummings cursing, yelling, belittling, and threatening to leave his 259 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: twelve year old son while the two were supposedly trying 260 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: to hunt pheasants. I'm not gonna play the video because 261 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: it's a bummer. It's tough to watch. Can't imagine why 262 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: Cummings posted it in the first place. He claims you 263 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: he was trying to get attention using quote rage bait. 264 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: But even if that's not true, he's still an idiot. 265 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: The video shows him possessing a firearm on the pheasant hunt, 266 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: but he's prohibited from doing so thanks to a twenty 267 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: twenty three marijuana conviction. He's been charged by state authorities 268 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: with two counts of possession of a firearm by a 269 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: person with a prior felony drug conviction, and one count 270 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: of child abuse, which is also a felony. You'll be 271 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: unsurprised to hear that this isn't old Corey's first run 272 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: in with the law. The Mitchell Republic reports that the 273 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: fed's rated comings home and roofing business back in twenty 274 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: twenty three, where they found over one hundred firearms and 275 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: ammunition which he is prohibited from possessing. He pled not 276 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: guilty prior to his trial in December, but he's facing 277 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: fifteen years in the FED if he's convicted. Moving over 278 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: to Wyoming, an eight year investigation has resulted in charges 279 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: for ten people for lying about their residency to get 280 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: cheaper big game tags. Sean Thomas of Farson was sentenced 281 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: last week for making false statements and illegally killing black bears, 282 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: pronghorned deer, elk, and other wildlife in southwest Wyoming. Thomas 283 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: was joined by four members of his family and five 284 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: friends from Utah and Minnesota. They were charged with everything 285 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: from illegally taking elk calf to hunting without a license 286 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: to hunting from a vehicle. Their monetary penalties range from 287 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: nine thousand dollars to a couple hundred bucks, and many 288 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 1: faced multi year hunting licensed suspensions. Almost all had to 289 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: forfeit the trophies secured from their illegal hunts. Lying about 290 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: your residency is nothing new, but I wonder if it 291 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,719 Speaker 1: will become more common as states continue to jack up 292 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: non resident prices. If the difference between a resident tag 293 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: and a non resident one is six or eight hundred dollars, 294 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: the incentive to cheat the system becomes a lot greater 295 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: than it was in decades past. The last one, an 296 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: eighteen year old in Illinois is being charged with killing 297 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: at least thirteen deer from a roadway and leaving them 298 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: to rot. Authorities have accused Ashton MacArthur of Clinton County 299 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: of spotlighting the animals at night and shooting them with 300 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 1: a twin twenty two caliber rifle. It's unclear if he's 301 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: shot all the deer on the same night, but a 302 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: press release from the sheriff's office says the investigation stemmed 303 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: from an incident on October twenty four in which multiple 304 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: deer were killed from a roadway. MacArthur is facing multiple 305 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: wildlife charges along with other criminal charges. Over to the 306 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: wolf desk, the California Department of Fishing Wildlife late last 307 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: month killed four wolves in the Sierra Valley after intensive 308 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: hazing efforts failed to reduce the wolf's predation on domestic 309 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: cattle and sheep in the area. Of course, this is 310 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 1: a big deal because wolves in California are listed as 311 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: endangered at both the state and federal level. But the 312 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: CDFW justified the extraordinary intervention because this small group of wolves, 313 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: known as the Bam Sao Pack, had been responsible for 314 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: a whopping seventy total livestock losses between March twenty eight 315 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: and September ten of this year, meaning that they were 316 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 1: at all time peak value, especially prior to President Trump's 317 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: excit reupdunts of Argentinian beef once again Knucklehead, and they 318 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: killed another seventeen cows by mid October. That's eighty seven 319 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: total animals killed by just three adults and six juvenile wolves, 320 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: more than Oregon's two hundred wolves killed during an entire year. 321 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 1: Over the summer, we told you about drones being used 322 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: to scare wolves away from livestock in the nearby Klamath 323 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 1: Basin in northern California, including recorded arguments from movies, the 324 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: sound of gunshots, and the song baby Shark played at 325 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: full blast. That one's more of a suggestion, but it 326 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: would work. Fish and Wildlife employed the same kind of 327 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: drones with this pack, as well as several other interventions 328 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: and here I'm reading from the state's press release. Quote 329 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: non lethal beanbags, all terrain vehicles, foot presence, diversionary feeding, 330 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: flatterrey installation, and field presence twenty four hours a day, 331 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 1: seven days a week unquote. Flatry, by the way, is 332 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 1: a very old technique of hanging flags from a line 333 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: that forms a boundary around livestock. When it works, predators 334 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: are unsettled by the unfamiliar flags moving the wind and 335 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: don't cross the boundary. But flattery usually only works for 336 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: a matter of weeks, and if the flags coil around 337 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: the line at any point and form a gap in 338 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: the series of flags, predators quickly pass through, realize they 339 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: have nothing to fear, and then cross the boundary everywhere 340 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: without a care in the world. There's also turbo flattery, 341 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: which is a very cool name for adding electricity to 342 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: the line, which lengthens the effectiveness of the technique to 343 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: a few months. Anyway, none of these interventions, amounting to 344 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 1: eighteen thousand total work hours a combination of federal and 345 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: state agencies worked on the Baymso pack Biologists concluded that 346 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: these wolves had become fully dependent on livestock for their 347 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: daily calories and that they were also training their young 348 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 1: to disregard all deterrence and also be dependent on livestock 349 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: if they remained on the landscape. Officials worried the young 350 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: wolves would eventually teach their own offspring to be brazen 351 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: livestock killers specialists we would call them. CDFW staff are 352 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: therefore now trying to capture the two remaining juveni wolves 353 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: in the Bam Sao pack so they don't teach any 354 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: other wolf whipper snappers that those drones overhead are nothing 355 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: to worry about. California has now started to reconsider its 356 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: wolf management policy, and of course that should go over 357 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: easy with animal rights groups in the general public. Stay tuned, 358 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: we'll be hearing a lot more on this one in 359 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 1: the future. But before we get to the future, we 360 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: have even more wolf news for you from right here 361 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: in the present. The Trump administration is throwing its weight 362 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: around with Colorado's own ongoing wolf reintroduction. We reported on 363 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: Colorado wolves back in late twenty two and early twenty three. 364 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: If you want a primer on the issue, scroll on 365 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: back to episode one ninety one of the Week in Review. 366 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: Get yourself up to speed. As a bit of a refresher. 367 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 1: Neither California or Oregon reintroduce wolves themselves. Wolves spread to 368 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,239 Speaker 1: these states from an original population that was reintroduced by 369 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: US Fish and Wildlife in the Greater Yellowstone ecosystem in 370 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: the mid nineties. Oddly enough, wolves were doing that in 371 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: Colorado two. But the proponents of reintroduction said that it 372 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: is impossible for a wolf to survive the Rednecks of 373 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 1: Wyoming and make it into Colorado. What they really meant is, 374 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: we're highly incentivized to get this reintroduction, and we have 375 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 1: no patience for Mother Nature to work on her time. 376 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: We want it on ours. So the Colorado situation minus hyperbole. 377 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: Those wolves from the gye reintroduction migrated through Wyoming and 378 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: passed into Colorado as early as two thousand and four, 379 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: but in twenty twenty, Colorado voters also passed prop One fourteen, 380 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: which was the resolution to introduce wolves in addition to 381 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: those entering the state on their own, with the ultimate 382 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: goal to bring the state's total wolf population to two 383 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: hundred individuals. That effort got underway in twenty twenty three 384 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: when Colorado Parks and Wildlife released ten wolves west of 385 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: the Continental Divide in the state, and now the state's 386 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: population is right around thirty wolves. A major wrinkle in 387 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: the plan came recently when the states nearby Montana, Wyoming, 388 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: and Idaho said they didn't want to participate in Colorado's 389 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 1: reintroduction plan. Colorado then partnered with the British Columbia Ministry 390 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: of Water, Land and Resource Stewardship to relocate wolves from Canada, 391 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: a process that was set to continue later this year. 392 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: Now a very different US Fish and Wildlife Service due 393 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: to a directive that Colorado may not bring those wolves 394 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: from Canada and can only relocate wolves from quote unquote 395 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: Northern Rocky Mountain states. Hard to see this as a 396 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: concern about the genetic makeup of Colorado's wolfpack rather than 397 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: simply a convenient wrench in the works of the reintroduction generally, Interestingly, 398 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: most of the wolves that Colorado has relocated so far 399 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: came from Oregon. Would that count as a Northern Rocky 400 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: Mountain state? If not to the FED stand in the 401 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: way of two states independently arranging a transfer between themselves. 402 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll find out soon. Luke Perkins of Colorado Parks 403 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: and Wildlife said that the state quote continues to evaluate 404 00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: all options to support this year's gray wolf releases. We 405 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: will be sure to bring the updates on what those 406 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: options turn out to be. Moving on to the voicemail desk, 407 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 1: a listener from here in Montana wrote in with what 408 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: sounds like a wild encounter with some other hunters on 409 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: public lamp. This fella was out antelope hunting just south 410 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: of Dylan on some blm land. He and a buddy 411 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: had set up camp on Friday when they saw a 412 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: horse trailer pull up and park about one hundred yards away. 413 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 2: The dude driving asked you to camp there, not my 414 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 2: choice as public land, said yeah, no problem. Next day 415 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 2: rolls around, end up shooting an antelope in the morning 416 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 2: at about eleven o'clock. He comes over already drinking and 417 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 2: already a little tipsy. 418 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: Not a great start. But after they came back from 419 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: their evening hunt, things got weirder and. 420 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 2: This guy is just screaming about how he shot an 421 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 2: antelope in the head at six hundred yards while it 422 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 2: was running. So my buddies and I got a good 423 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 2: little chuckle out of that. And about ten o'clock that 424 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 2: night they're all having this mass bonfire about one hundred 425 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 2: yards away from us and just making so much noise. 426 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 2: Finally get out of the tent, was about to walk 427 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 2: over there and just say, hey, guys, can you quiet 428 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: it down a little bit? And they get into a 429 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 2: massive fight, and by fight, I mean two guys on 430 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 2: the ground throwing each other up against horse trailers. One 431 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 2: guy eventually pulls a gun on the other guy. His 432 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 2: wife is sitting there screaming. Everything's super chaotic, and the 433 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 2: dude who has a gun pointed at him just yell, 434 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 2: if you want to shoot me, ef and shoot me, 435 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 2: do it. Guy doesn't shoot him, thankfully, but just thought 436 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 2: that was pretty crazy and I'd share that with you. So, yeah, 437 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 2: it's good luck hunting the season. 438 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: So it's a bummer that this came in during hunting season. 439 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: And you know, this is just a good example, right 440 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: I brought up you know, big land owners can't all 441 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: be lumped in with fred Eshlman, right, because that's just 442 00:25:54,880 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: not accurate or true. Just like the bad dangerous behavior 443 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: example of this group. I wouldn't be like, oh, yeah, 444 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: those are hunters, right, I'd just be like, oh, those 445 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 1: are jackasses people who have a lot of growing up 446 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: to do. It's a real real bummer that they wanted 447 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: to camp next to somebody who's already established, knowing full 448 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: well that they were going to behave the way that 449 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 1: they behave. I'm sure it's not their first time, but 450 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: shame on them won't get us anywhere, right, You just 451 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: got to pack up and leave. That's the only thing 452 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 1: you can do. If you want to call the sheriff 453 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: in that situation, I probably would have lady screaming guns 454 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 1: drawn alcohol, and that sheriff probably would have showed up 455 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: early in the morning hours to handle these folks when 456 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 1: the lack of sleep and high hangover situation made them 457 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: a little easier to deal with. It's a good insight too, 458 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: because this isn't just something that happens at dispersed campsites, right. 459 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: This is something that our BLM employees, and our Forest 460 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: Service employees, and our US Fish and Wildlife employees and 461 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: our park service employees deal with all the time, domestic situations. 462 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: It's not a pretty or promoted part of the job. 463 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: I guess you don't see it in headlines very often, 464 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: but it is a major thing that these agency personnel 465 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: deal with. Another reason to thank them for what they do. 466 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 1: That's all I got for you this week. Thank you 467 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 1: so much for listening. Remember to write in to ask 468 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: c Al that's Ascal at the meeteater dot com. Let 469 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:36,719 Speaker 1: me know what's going on in your neck of the woods. 470 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: You know we appreciate it.