1 00:00:09,562 --> 00:00:10,322 Speaker 1: Originals. 2 00:00:10,362 --> 00:00:17,322 Speaker 2: This is an iHeart original. It was the summer of 3 00:00:17,442 --> 00:00:21,082 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, and the whole world had gone crazy for 4 00:00:21,322 --> 00:00:26,842 Speaker 2: Pokemon Go. In city parks and on suburban streets, groups 5 00:00:26,842 --> 00:00:31,202 Speaker 2: of geeked out strangers clutched their phones while chasing down 6 00:00:31,322 --> 00:00:35,482 Speaker 2: virtual characters. If you don't remember, Pokemon Go was a 7 00:00:35,682 --> 00:00:41,562 Speaker 2: legitimate cultural phenomenon. Hundreds of millions of people downloaded the game. 8 00:00:42,002 --> 00:00:46,002 Speaker 2: There were news reports of distracted Pokemon Go players walking 9 00:00:46,042 --> 00:00:52,962 Speaker 2: off cliffs. Highway signs warned drive now, catch Pokemon later. Sure, 10 00:00:53,082 --> 00:00:57,162 Speaker 2: there had been popular mobile games before, Let's not forget 11 00:00:57,322 --> 00:01:01,082 Speaker 2: they made Angry Birds into a movie, two of them. 12 00:01:01,802 --> 00:01:05,802 Speaker 2: But there was something different about Pokemon Go. All you 13 00:01:05,882 --> 00:01:09,682 Speaker 2: had to do was step outside, open the app, and 14 00:01:09,722 --> 00:01:13,762 Speaker 2: your phone became a magical window into a hidden world. 15 00:01:14,402 --> 00:01:19,082 Speaker 2: Pokemon Go is still going today. Millions of Pokemon trainers 16 00:01:19,122 --> 00:01:22,362 Speaker 2: are still catching Pokemon in the wild and battling each 17 00:01:22,362 --> 00:01:26,442 Speaker 2: other at poke gems. But there was something truly special 18 00:01:26,642 --> 00:01:31,122 Speaker 2: when Pokemon Go first took the world by storm. All 19 00:01:31,202 --> 00:01:35,522 Speaker 2: these years later, it's easy to forget the craziest fact 20 00:01:35,842 --> 00:01:40,402 Speaker 2: about the crazy popularity of Pokemon Go that the whole 21 00:01:40,442 --> 00:01:45,162 Speaker 2: thing began as a joke, and not just any joke, 22 00:01:45,842 --> 00:01:52,002 Speaker 2: but in April Fool's Joke. Welcome to very special episodes 23 00:01:52,042 --> 00:01:56,242 Speaker 2: and iHeart original podcast. I'm your host, Danish Schwartz, and 24 00:01:56,482 --> 00:02:00,842 Speaker 2: this is April Fool's Gold, the story of Pokemon. 25 00:02:00,962 --> 00:02:10,802 Speaker 3: Go Happy April Fools everybody. I'm Jason English, welcoming you 26 00:02:10,842 --> 00:02:14,722 Speaker 3: to very special episodes. Now we are not what you 27 00:02:14,722 --> 00:02:18,242 Speaker 3: would call a timely show. In recent weeks, we spent 28 00:02:18,322 --> 00:02:21,042 Speaker 3: time on the set of James Cameron's Titanic the night 29 00:02:21,082 --> 00:02:24,602 Speaker 3: someone poisoned the cast and crew. We tried to track 30 00:02:24,642 --> 00:02:27,362 Speaker 3: down a moon rock that went missing in the late seventies. 31 00:02:27,882 --> 00:02:31,402 Speaker 3: We recounted an old Soviet botany rivalry from the Stalin era. 32 00:02:31,962 --> 00:02:36,042 Speaker 3: That's all by design. I'm a firm believer that being 33 00:02:36,122 --> 00:02:40,162 Speaker 3: interesting is more important than being timely. But on occasion 34 00:02:40,642 --> 00:02:43,202 Speaker 3: we hit on a story idea that does line up 35 00:02:43,202 --> 00:02:46,482 Speaker 3: with a specific date. So when producer Josh Fisher and 36 00:02:46,602 --> 00:02:51,042 Speaker 3: writer Dave Russ pitched today's topic, we realized the tenth 37 00:02:51,042 --> 00:02:54,482 Speaker 3: anniversary was mere weeks away. So this week's episode is 38 00:02:54,522 --> 00:02:57,882 Speaker 3: both interesting and timely, a two fer. I'm gonna let 39 00:02:57,922 --> 00:02:58,882 Speaker 3: Dana take it from here. 40 00:03:00,482 --> 00:03:04,922 Speaker 2: Our story begins on April first, twenty eleven, when a 41 00:03:04,962 --> 00:03:08,282 Speaker 2: young man named Tatsuo Nomora showed up for his first 42 00:03:08,442 --> 00:03:12,762 Speaker 2: day of work at Google Japan. Tatuo didn't know it, 43 00:03:12,882 --> 00:03:16,682 Speaker 2: but April Fool's Day was a really big deal at Google. 44 00:03:17,242 --> 00:03:20,882 Speaker 2: For many years, Google used April First to roll out 45 00:03:20,922 --> 00:03:25,762 Speaker 2: a litany of fake Google products. There was Google Gulp, 46 00:03:26,162 --> 00:03:32,042 Speaker 2: a quote smart drink that enhanced your intelligence, and Google Romance, 47 00:03:32,322 --> 00:03:37,802 Speaker 2: powered by Google's trademarked Soulmate search technology. There was even 48 00:03:37,842 --> 00:03:41,322 Speaker 2: a feature called ad Birds that promised to put your 49 00:03:41,362 --> 00:03:46,202 Speaker 2: ads on birds who would then fly around. It didn't 50 00:03:46,202 --> 00:03:48,802 Speaker 2: take long for Tatuo to get in on the fine. 51 00:03:49,282 --> 00:03:52,402 Speaker 2: He was working on Google Maps at the time, so 52 00:03:52,762 --> 00:03:56,082 Speaker 2: on April Fool's Day twenty twelve, he came up with 53 00:03:56,162 --> 00:04:01,042 Speaker 2: his first joke product, an old school Nintendo version of 54 00:04:01,082 --> 00:04:04,082 Speaker 2: Google Maps. Here's Tatsuo. 55 00:04:05,162 --> 00:04:07,162 Speaker 1: And I came up with this idea to turn the 56 00:04:07,162 --> 00:04:11,482 Speaker 1: Google Maps into the old fashioned Nintendo classic Nintendo eight 57 00:04:11,522 --> 00:04:15,842 Speaker 1: bit style. And I made a demo prototype for it 58 00:04:16,002 --> 00:04:18,882 Speaker 1: and showed it around and people really loved it. And 59 00:04:19,762 --> 00:04:22,642 Speaker 1: the following year people asked me what I would do, 60 00:04:23,122 --> 00:04:26,202 Speaker 1: and I would come up with ideas, so I sort 61 00:04:26,242 --> 00:04:28,922 Speaker 1: of became this April Fools Guy. 62 00:04:29,402 --> 00:04:33,242 Speaker 2: In twenty fourteen, Tatuo moved to California to work for 63 00:04:33,362 --> 00:04:37,162 Speaker 2: Google USA. He was still on the Google Maps team, 64 00:04:37,482 --> 00:04:40,602 Speaker 2: putting in long hours launching a new version of the 65 00:04:40,602 --> 00:04:44,282 Speaker 2: Google Maps mobile app. He didn't really want to get 66 00:04:44,322 --> 00:04:48,802 Speaker 2: involved with another prank product because it meant even more 67 00:04:49,002 --> 00:04:53,242 Speaker 2: work creating something that's funny for like a day and 68 00:04:53,282 --> 00:04:58,322 Speaker 2: then everyone forgets about. But Tatuo's reputation as the April 69 00:04:58,362 --> 00:05:02,762 Speaker 2: Fools Guy followed him to America, and the Google Maps 70 00:05:02,762 --> 00:05:06,562 Speaker 2: team roped him in. They were looking for a new joke. 71 00:05:06,682 --> 00:05:07,522 Speaker 4: I did that. 72 00:05:07,602 --> 00:05:12,562 Speaker 2: Encouraged users to explore the fancy new map they just launched. 73 00:05:13,202 --> 00:05:16,362 Speaker 2: Someone came up with the idea of collecting things on 74 00:05:16,402 --> 00:05:19,522 Speaker 2: Google Maps. Okay, but collecting what? 75 00:05:20,522 --> 00:05:24,002 Speaker 1: And some ideas we came up was, you know, Hello Kitty, 76 00:05:24,602 --> 00:05:26,642 Speaker 1: like if you go to different places, they have that 77 00:05:26,842 --> 00:05:29,762 Speaker 1: city themed Hello Kitty, and we talked about that. We 78 00:05:29,802 --> 00:05:32,402 Speaker 1: also talked about dragon Ball. You have you know, seving 79 00:05:32,482 --> 00:05:35,402 Speaker 1: dragon Ball, you pan around, you find them. And it 80 00:05:35,442 --> 00:05:38,482 Speaker 1: was during that brainstorming I came up with Pokemon. I mean, 81 00:05:38,962 --> 00:05:42,682 Speaker 1: what do you collect Pokemon? Right? That's quite natural. It 82 00:05:42,762 --> 00:05:47,082 Speaker 1: was also just by chance staying next to Pokemon Center. 83 00:05:47,242 --> 00:05:49,882 Speaker 1: It's like a Pokemon store. Every morning I go to 84 00:05:49,922 --> 00:05:52,922 Speaker 1: the office, I will pass by that store, So it 85 00:05:52,962 --> 00:05:54,882 Speaker 1: was kind of natural to come up with that idea. 86 00:05:56,202 --> 00:05:59,762 Speaker 2: Just like that, Tattoo found himself creating a new April 87 00:05:59,802 --> 00:06:04,602 Speaker 2: Fools game for Google Maps. They called it the Pokemon Challenge. 88 00:06:05,162 --> 00:06:09,522 Speaker 2: Tattoo was a software developer, not a game designer, but 89 00:06:09,642 --> 00:06:12,282 Speaker 2: he was also a nineties kid who grew up playing 90 00:06:12,402 --> 00:06:16,122 Speaker 2: the original Pokemon video game on his game Boy, so 91 00:06:16,282 --> 00:06:20,402 Speaker 2: making this fake Pokemon game was also kind of a 92 00:06:20,522 --> 00:06:24,842 Speaker 2: dream job. The object of Pokemon is, of course, to 93 00:06:24,922 --> 00:06:30,242 Speaker 2: catch them all, so that's how Tattuo designed the Pokemon Challenge. 94 00:06:30,762 --> 00:06:34,882 Speaker 2: He hid one hundred and fifty Pokemon inside Google Maps 95 00:06:35,202 --> 00:06:39,442 Speaker 2: in different locations around the globe. The hiding spots weren't 96 00:06:39,562 --> 00:06:40,802 Speaker 2: completely random. 97 00:06:40,922 --> 00:06:44,722 Speaker 1: Tattoo says, I didn't want it to be hard, but 98 00:06:45,082 --> 00:06:48,722 Speaker 1: it had to be interesting. I think that was what 99 00:06:48,762 --> 00:06:52,242 Speaker 1: I wanted. And just like the original Pokemon, if you 100 00:06:52,322 --> 00:06:55,322 Speaker 1: wanted to catch them all, you know, you got to 101 00:06:55,362 --> 00:06:58,482 Speaker 1: make some effort to catch them all. So there were 102 00:06:58,722 --> 00:07:01,842 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty Pokemon in that Pokemon Challenge, and 103 00:07:01,882 --> 00:07:05,322 Speaker 1: they were located at places like if you go to 104 00:07:05,322 --> 00:07:08,642 Speaker 1: a volcano in Hawaii, find a Chari's art there, and 105 00:07:09,322 --> 00:07:11,482 Speaker 1: if you'll go to a power plan you can might 106 00:07:11,562 --> 00:07:16,242 Speaker 1: find a Pikachu. We really tried to make it interesting 107 00:07:16,242 --> 00:07:17,842 Speaker 1: for people to look around. 108 00:07:19,922 --> 00:07:25,002 Speaker 2: To actually win the game, though, Tatuo wanted that to 109 00:07:25,082 --> 00:07:29,042 Speaker 2: be a true challenge. He knew that gamers would immediately 110 00:07:29,082 --> 00:07:32,682 Speaker 2: go online and post spoilers with the locations of each 111 00:07:32,762 --> 00:07:36,882 Speaker 2: Pokemon as they were found, so he added one final 112 00:07:36,962 --> 00:07:43,322 Speaker 2: Pokemon who didn't play by the rules, the legendary Mew. 113 00:07:43,362 --> 00:07:47,162 Speaker 2: Only after a player had already caught all one hundred 114 00:07:47,202 --> 00:07:51,522 Speaker 2: and fifty Pokemon could they start searching for Mew to 115 00:07:51,882 --> 00:07:54,042 Speaker 2: really test their catching skills. 116 00:07:54,442 --> 00:07:56,842 Speaker 4: Tatuo hid Mew deep. 117 00:07:56,722 --> 00:08:00,762 Speaker 2: In the Amazon jungle, but knowing that people would reveal 118 00:08:00,962 --> 00:08:06,842 Speaker 2: Mu's location online, Tatuo programmed in an ingenious twist. 119 00:08:06,962 --> 00:08:11,402 Speaker 1: So all other Pokemon they had static location. This Mew 120 00:08:11,802 --> 00:08:15,762 Speaker 1: is static, but it's a different per person, so you 121 00:08:15,802 --> 00:08:19,242 Speaker 1: will find it Mew at a different location than other people. 122 00:08:19,522 --> 00:08:23,322 Speaker 2: When it came time to launch the game, Google's marketing 123 00:08:23,362 --> 00:08:27,922 Speaker 2: department produced a flashy video trailer. The joke was that 124 00:08:28,042 --> 00:08:32,562 Speaker 2: Google Maps was looking to hire an official Pokemon Master. 125 00:08:33,242 --> 00:08:38,482 Speaker 2: To weed out applicants, they created the Pokemon Challenge. 126 00:08:39,482 --> 00:08:41,242 Speaker 5: It's always been important to us to have the most 127 00:08:41,322 --> 00:08:46,122 Speaker 5: qualified employees at Google. Now, using the technology created by 128 00:08:46,122 --> 00:08:49,042 Speaker 5: the Google Maps team, we've prepared the most rigorous test 129 00:08:49,122 --> 00:08:51,962 Speaker 5: known demand to find the world's best Pokemon Master. 130 00:08:53,922 --> 00:08:58,642 Speaker 2: The trailer was a Hollywood style production complete with special effects. 131 00:08:59,082 --> 00:09:03,522 Speaker 2: It showed intrepid Pokemon masters scaling cliffs and saling the 132 00:09:03,522 --> 00:09:07,802 Speaker 2: ocean to catch rare Pokemon. But unlike tatsu game, where 133 00:09:07,882 --> 00:09:11,682 Speaker 2: Pokemon were caught with a simple click on Google Maps, 134 00:09:12,162 --> 00:09:16,682 Speaker 2: the trailer showed Pokemon masters using their phones to actually 135 00:09:16,922 --> 00:09:20,442 Speaker 2: see live Pokemon in the wild and capture them with 136 00:09:20,562 --> 00:09:23,482 Speaker 2: poke balls. There was even a shot of a man 137 00:09:23,562 --> 00:09:26,762 Speaker 2: in a business suit on a busy sidewalk, clutching his 138 00:09:26,882 --> 00:09:31,562 Speaker 2: phone and frantically waving around at an imaginary Pokemon. Important 139 00:09:31,642 --> 00:09:35,962 Speaker 2: of things to come For April Fool's Day twenty fourteen, 140 00:09:36,442 --> 00:09:41,282 Speaker 2: Tatsuo's Pokemon Challenge was released to the world, and one 141 00:09:41,322 --> 00:09:44,042 Speaker 2: of the people who remembers playing the game that day 142 00:09:44,242 --> 00:09:48,042 Speaker 2: is Stephen Oz. Stephen was just a teenager back then, 143 00:09:48,322 --> 00:09:49,962 Speaker 2: but he thought it was brilliant. 144 00:09:50,882 --> 00:09:53,962 Speaker 6: Once you updated the app, the little guy that you 145 00:09:54,042 --> 00:09:56,402 Speaker 6: drop on the pin to see like a three D 146 00:09:56,562 --> 00:09:59,642 Speaker 6: v You've seen him dress as Professor Oak and he's 147 00:09:59,682 --> 00:10:02,882 Speaker 6: all like saying, hey, we need you to help find 148 00:10:02,922 --> 00:10:05,802 Speaker 6: all of these Pokemon spread all over the world. And 149 00:10:05,922 --> 00:10:08,362 Speaker 6: I'm like I saw this was like the greatest day 150 00:10:08,402 --> 00:10:12,802 Speaker 6: since Google Maps did the pac Man version of Google Maps. 151 00:10:13,482 --> 00:10:18,202 Speaker 2: Stephen played the Pokemon challenge on Google Maps for hours and, 152 00:10:18,282 --> 00:10:21,482 Speaker 2: with the help of some online tips, found all one 153 00:10:21,562 --> 00:10:25,882 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty hidden Pokemon, just as Tatsuo had planned. Though, 154 00:10:26,282 --> 00:10:31,242 Speaker 2: capturing the mythical Mew in the Amazon jungle was almost impossible, 155 00:10:31,762 --> 00:10:36,602 Speaker 2: but Stephen persevered and eventually caught him all. Winning the 156 00:10:36,642 --> 00:10:39,562 Speaker 2: game was fun for Steven, but the real prize came 157 00:10:39,682 --> 00:10:43,602 Speaker 2: a few months later. Tatsuo and the Google Maps team 158 00:10:43,762 --> 00:10:48,722 Speaker 2: decided to reward all the winners with actual Google Pokemon 159 00:10:48,842 --> 00:10:52,362 Speaker 2: Master business cards with their names on them, along with 160 00:10:52,482 --> 00:10:54,642 Speaker 2: a signed letter from Tatsuo. 161 00:10:55,562 --> 00:10:58,522 Speaker 6: That was amazing. That was like being validated for being 162 00:10:58,562 --> 00:11:02,082 Speaker 6: a Pokemon fan. I never expected that in my life 163 00:11:02,362 --> 00:11:04,482 Speaker 6: of being a Pokemon master and may and I showed 164 00:11:04,522 --> 00:11:08,922 Speaker 6: them off to everyone those cards in my prize possession. 165 00:11:09,202 --> 00:11:12,362 Speaker 6: It felt fun, It felt like something new and exciting 166 00:11:12,722 --> 00:11:13,722 Speaker 6: in the world of Pokemon. 167 00:11:15,402 --> 00:11:20,002 Speaker 4: April Fools twenty fourteen came and went. Tatua returned to 168 00:11:20,042 --> 00:11:23,442 Speaker 4: his day job at Google Maps, but his mind kept 169 00:11:23,482 --> 00:11:28,242 Speaker 4: coming back to the Pokemon Challenge. Sure, he made the 170 00:11:28,242 --> 00:11:31,482 Speaker 4: game as an April Fools joke, a one off gag, 171 00:11:31,882 --> 00:11:36,122 Speaker 4: but like Stephen, Tatuo felt the game offered something new 172 00:11:36,282 --> 00:11:40,682 Speaker 4: and different from other Pokemon games. Could this joke become 173 00:11:40,882 --> 00:11:41,602 Speaker 4: something real? 174 00:11:42,602 --> 00:11:45,882 Speaker 1: I did think about making this a real game. It 175 00:11:45,962 --> 00:11:51,002 Speaker 1: took I think three three four months to prepare just 176 00:11:51,042 --> 00:11:53,522 Speaker 1: for this a few days joke, so it was a 177 00:11:53,522 --> 00:11:57,522 Speaker 1: lot of work. And every year he makes so much 178 00:11:57,562 --> 00:12:00,242 Speaker 1: effort and after a few days people forget about it 179 00:12:00,282 --> 00:12:04,562 Speaker 1: and it's gone. So naturally, I was always hoping, so 180 00:12:04,922 --> 00:12:07,082 Speaker 1: one of these will become something serio. 181 00:12:08,082 --> 00:12:11,642 Speaker 2: That's when Tatuo got the phone call that changed the 182 00:12:11,682 --> 00:12:19,082 Speaker 2: course of his career and altered the course of gaming history. 183 00:12:20,202 --> 00:12:24,162 Speaker 2: Tatsuo Nomura got a call from a friend, Masa Kawashima. 184 00:12:24,362 --> 00:12:28,522 Speaker 2: Masa was working for a small gaming startup called Niantic Labs. 185 00:12:29,002 --> 00:12:32,562 Speaker 2: Niantic was actually part of Google at the time. Masa 186 00:12:32,562 --> 00:12:37,522 Speaker 2: and Nyantik were making augmented reality games, games that blended 187 00:12:37,602 --> 00:12:42,562 Speaker 2: real world and virtual elements. Niantic's big ar game at 188 00:12:42,602 --> 00:12:46,762 Speaker 2: the time was Ingress. It was a location based game. 189 00:12:47,082 --> 00:12:49,402 Speaker 2: To play it, you opened the app on your phone 190 00:12:49,442 --> 00:12:53,402 Speaker 2: and walked around outside. The goal was to capture portals 191 00:12:53,522 --> 00:12:57,602 Speaker 2: hidden in real world locations and do battle with other players. 192 00:12:58,362 --> 00:13:02,002 Speaker 2: Masa had seen the Hollywood style YouTube trailer for the 193 00:13:02,162 --> 00:13:06,402 Speaker 2: Pokemon Challenge. He told Tatuo that the version of the 194 00:13:06,442 --> 00:13:10,362 Speaker 2: game being played in the trailer looked exactly like a 195 00:13:10,402 --> 00:13:17,842 Speaker 2: Pokemon version of Ingris. Of course, real world locations, capturing Pokemon, 196 00:13:18,202 --> 00:13:23,002 Speaker 2: doing battle with other Pokemon trainers. All the pieces started 197 00:13:23,082 --> 00:13:24,242 Speaker 2: falling into place. 198 00:13:25,082 --> 00:13:27,242 Speaker 4: Call it a Eureka. 199 00:13:26,882 --> 00:13:32,442 Speaker 2: Moment, an epiphany, a revelation from the gaming gods. In 200 00:13:32,522 --> 00:13:37,842 Speaker 2: that moment, Pokemon Go was born. Within weeks, Tatsuo and 201 00:13:37,922 --> 00:13:41,242 Speaker 2: Niantic were in Japan pitching the idea to the Pokemon 202 00:13:41,362 --> 00:13:46,002 Speaker 2: Company and Nintendo. Within a few months, Tatsuo was working 203 00:13:46,202 --> 00:13:50,922 Speaker 2: full time for Niantic. The next year, Nyantik broke off 204 00:13:50,962 --> 00:13:55,482 Speaker 2: from Google as an independent company, betting its future almost 205 00:13:55,682 --> 00:13:59,762 Speaker 2: entirely on the success of Pokemon Go, a game that 206 00:14:00,002 --> 00:14:04,682 Speaker 2: started as an April fool's joke. We now know how 207 00:14:04,762 --> 00:14:08,842 Speaker 2: that future turned out. When Poke Kimono finally launched in 208 00:14:08,882 --> 00:14:13,282 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, it wasn't just the biggest thing in mobile gaming, 209 00:14:13,842 --> 00:14:17,282 Speaker 2: it was the biggest thing in the world. In just 210 00:14:17,482 --> 00:14:21,522 Speaker 2: one week, the market value of Nintendo, which owned a 211 00:14:21,562 --> 00:14:26,242 Speaker 2: stake in the game, jumped by nine billion dollars. With 212 00:14:26,482 --> 00:14:30,362 Speaker 2: a b at the twenty sixteen Summer Olympics in Brazil, 213 00:14:30,722 --> 00:14:35,082 Speaker 2: a Japanese athlete racked up five thousand dollars in roaming 214 00:14:35,202 --> 00:14:39,642 Speaker 2: charges from playing Pokemon Go on his phone. Starbucks issued 215 00:14:39,682 --> 00:14:45,282 Speaker 2: a special drink called the Pokemono Frappuccino, featuring raspberry syrup 216 00:14:45,322 --> 00:14:50,642 Speaker 2: and freeze dried blackberries. Presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton, attempting to 217 00:14:50,722 --> 00:14:55,122 Speaker 2: piggyback on the game's popularity, held a campaign event at 218 00:14:55,162 --> 00:15:00,042 Speaker 2: a Pokemon gym in Ohio, where she famously asked people 219 00:15:00,122 --> 00:15:04,762 Speaker 2: to Pokemon go to the polls. In the first year alone, 220 00:15:04,882 --> 00:15:09,682 Speaker 2: Pokemon Go was downloaded seve one hundred and fifty million times. 221 00:15:10,242 --> 00:15:13,802 Speaker 2: The game had made billions of dollars for Niantic, the 222 00:15:13,882 --> 00:15:16,722 Speaker 2: tiny startup that took a big bet. 223 00:15:16,642 --> 00:15:17,322 Speaker 4: On in April. 224 00:15:17,362 --> 00:15:23,402 Speaker 2: Fool's joke, John Walker never thought he was going to 225 00:15:23,442 --> 00:15:27,522 Speaker 2: be a Pokemon Go fan. A gaming journalist from the UK. 226 00:15:28,162 --> 00:15:31,642 Speaker 2: John was already in college when the original Pokemon games 227 00:15:31,682 --> 00:15:34,362 Speaker 2: and cartoons came out in the nineties. 228 00:15:35,002 --> 00:15:38,642 Speaker 7: So back in twenty sixteen, I knew nothing, absolutely nothing 229 00:15:38,642 --> 00:15:42,402 Speaker 7: about Pokemon, like I could maybe name you Pikachu, and 230 00:15:42,722 --> 00:15:45,122 Speaker 7: I had no clue at all about the whole thing. 231 00:15:45,882 --> 00:15:50,442 Speaker 2: John didn't discover Pokemon Go until twenty twenty, when COVID 232 00:15:50,482 --> 00:15:54,162 Speaker 2: lockdowns forced him and his very active five year old 233 00:15:54,242 --> 00:15:56,482 Speaker 2: son indoors, and. 234 00:15:56,482 --> 00:15:58,242 Speaker 7: So we were trying to think of reasons to go out, 235 00:15:58,242 --> 00:16:00,722 Speaker 7: and he was going for a walk. Wasn't something that 236 00:16:00,762 --> 00:16:03,042 Speaker 7: interested him, nor any other five year old, And then 237 00:16:03,082 --> 00:16:05,962 Speaker 7: I remembered this Pokemon Go thing, so I showed it 238 00:16:05,962 --> 00:16:09,402 Speaker 7: to him and he instantly loved it, and so we 239 00:16:09,442 --> 00:16:11,682 Speaker 7: went out and we walked, and it was it was 240 00:16:11,882 --> 00:16:14,522 Speaker 7: just magic. We went outside and all these Pokemon that 241 00:16:14,562 --> 00:16:16,602 Speaker 7: we didn't really know to care about at the time 242 00:16:17,162 --> 00:16:20,922 Speaker 7: were appearing in real life. And to him this was 243 00:16:21,082 --> 00:16:23,762 Speaker 7: just unbelievable. And it ended up becoming a thing where 244 00:16:23,762 --> 00:16:26,482 Speaker 7: we would don't tell the government, but we would spend 245 00:16:26,482 --> 00:16:28,882 Speaker 7: more than an hour out. He would go for three 246 00:16:28,922 --> 00:16:32,402 Speaker 7: hour walks. A five year old going on three hour walks. 247 00:16:32,442 --> 00:16:34,962 Speaker 7: Purely motivated by getting to the next PokeStop and the 248 00:16:34,962 --> 00:16:37,762 Speaker 7: next pokeg Gym, and the next ticking off the next 249 00:16:37,802 --> 00:16:39,202 Speaker 7: task off the list. 250 00:16:40,002 --> 00:16:44,642 Speaker 2: John says that his son Toby became absolutely obsessed with 251 00:16:44,802 --> 00:16:48,522 Speaker 2: catching Mew two. They tried for months to beat a 252 00:16:48,602 --> 00:16:52,282 Speaker 2: character named Giovanni who had a Mew two, but they 253 00:16:52,322 --> 00:16:55,562 Speaker 2: always came up short. John and Toby were ready to 254 00:16:55,562 --> 00:16:58,042 Speaker 2: give up after a long day of playing in a 255 00:16:58,082 --> 00:17:00,242 Speaker 2: special Pokemon Go Live event. 256 00:17:00,562 --> 00:17:02,402 Speaker 7: I think the event came to an end at six pm, 257 00:17:02,482 --> 00:17:04,002 Speaker 7: and I remember we were sat on this chair in 258 00:17:04,042 --> 00:17:07,802 Speaker 7: his room, just having one last go because the hot 259 00:17:07,842 --> 00:17:09,802 Speaker 7: air balloon that he was in just happened to hover 260 00:17:09,922 --> 00:17:12,762 Speaker 7: into the game and we clicked on it and we 261 00:17:12,842 --> 00:17:14,962 Speaker 7: tried one more time, and we did it. We won 262 00:17:15,002 --> 00:17:17,002 Speaker 7: the mewtwo, like with you know, it was a kind 263 00:17:17,042 --> 00:17:21,562 Speaker 7: of sports movie ending seconds to spare and we both cried. 264 00:17:23,602 --> 00:17:27,642 Speaker 7: I remember, I just I was so relieved for his happiness, 265 00:17:27,642 --> 00:17:30,802 Speaker 7: and he was so overwhelmed with happiness at the time. 266 00:17:30,962 --> 00:17:33,482 Speaker 7: That was the most precious thing and it was just 267 00:17:33,522 --> 00:17:34,882 Speaker 7: such an awesome moment. 268 00:17:35,802 --> 00:17:40,242 Speaker 2: Ten years ago today, Tatsuo Nomora released an April Fool's 269 00:17:40,322 --> 00:17:44,682 Speaker 2: joke that has brought joy and obsession and long walks 270 00:17:44,682 --> 00:17:48,042 Speaker 2: with five year olds to hundreds of millions of people 271 00:17:48,122 --> 00:17:52,522 Speaker 2: the world over. Tatsuo still works for Niantic, where he's 272 00:17:52,602 --> 00:17:57,162 Speaker 2: created and launched other popular AR games. One is called 273 00:17:57,282 --> 00:18:02,682 Speaker 2: Pickman Bloom, a kind of step counter powered by Imaginary Friends. 274 00:18:03,282 --> 00:18:07,842 Speaker 2: Another is Monster Hunter Now, in which you and monsters 275 00:18:08,202 --> 00:18:12,922 Speaker 2: now neither has been as world changing as Pokemon Go, 276 00:18:13,642 --> 00:18:19,322 Speaker 2: but that's okay. Lightning almost never strikes twice unless you're PEAKACHEW. 277 00:18:19,962 --> 00:18:24,122 Speaker 2: So Happy April Fool's Day everyone, and who knows, maybe 278 00:18:24,162 --> 00:18:27,042 Speaker 2: some lame gag you pull at work today will still 279 00:18:27,082 --> 00:18:35,242 Speaker 2: be a global phenomenon ten years from now. 280 00:18:35,442 --> 00:18:38,522 Speaker 3: Very Special Episodes is made by some very special people. 281 00:18:39,362 --> 00:18:42,922 Speaker 3: This show is hosted by Danish Schwartz, Zaren Burnett and 282 00:18:43,042 --> 00:18:46,802 Speaker 3: me Jason English. This episode was written by Dave Bruce. 283 00:18:47,322 --> 00:18:52,162 Speaker 3: Our producer, editor and sound designer is Josh Fisher. Additional 284 00:18:52,282 --> 00:18:56,802 Speaker 3: editing by Jonathan Washington, Mixing and mastering by Bahid Fraser. 285 00:18:57,162 --> 00:19:01,762 Speaker 3: Our story editor is Marissa Brown. 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