WEBVTT - Smart Talks with IBM: Project OWL

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<v Speaker 1>Now in this series, we're sitting down with people who

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<v Speaker 1>are leveraging powerful technologies developed by IBM, and they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>so in ways that are making a real difference out

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. So these are people who are implementing

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<v Speaker 1>technological solutions to real world problems. Today's episode is about

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<v Speaker 1>Project OWL, an idea that won the very first Call

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<v Speaker 1>for Code competition in two thousand eighteen. Project OWL aims

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<v Speaker 1>to restore communications and logistics capabilities to areas affected by

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<v Speaker 1>natural disasters, specifically hurricanes. It's a combination of hardware and

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<v Speaker 1>software that leverages MESH network technologies and IBM platforms such

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<v Speaker 1>as cloud computing, the Watson platform, and more. We'll hear

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<v Speaker 1>from Brian Now, one of the co founders of Project OWL,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as a Lisa Macklin of IBM to get

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<v Speaker 1>a deeper understanding about the project, its origins and the

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<v Speaker 1>long term goals, both for the Call for Code initiative

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<v Speaker 1>in general and Project OWL particularly. Now. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>start the sentence that I'm speaking right now with the

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<v Speaker 1>phrase the remarkable thing about this story is But it

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<v Speaker 1>turns out I can't because there are too many remarkable

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<v Speaker 1>things to pick just one. Here's a quick rundown. First,

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<v Speaker 1>IBM has built a suite of technologies that are incredibly powerful.

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<v Speaker 1>They range from cloud computing services, which give developers the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to take advantage of enormous processing power. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>cloud computing is where you've got servers that are able

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<v Speaker 1>to do processing on the back end, and through an

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<v Speaker 1>Internet connection you can access that, so you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to have a supercomputer at your own disposal. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>a virtual supercomputer in the form of these cloud computing networks.

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<v Speaker 1>But they also have the famous Watson platform, which allows

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<v Speaker 1>for an incredible range of AI applications that can tap

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<v Speaker 1>into all sorts of different processes. So you can think

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<v Speaker 1>of this as a suite of refined extreme computing power.

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of makes me tingle just to think about

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<v Speaker 1>it now. Second, this story is about taking those tools

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<v Speaker 1>and actually applying them to solve real world, hard problems.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just that the tech enables cool applications. It's

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<v Speaker 1>that like minded people who want to make a positive

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<v Speaker 1>impact are finding one another and they're coming up with

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<v Speaker 1>novel approaches to tackle these issues that affect millions of

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<v Speaker 1>lives every day. Focuses on really big challenges. The theme

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<v Speaker 1>for the first Call for Code in two thousand eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>was natural disasters. The theme for this year is climate change,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, they go big. The third thing I find

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<v Speaker 1>really remarkable about this story is that collaboration keeps popping

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<v Speaker 1>up as an important component in the projects. Not only

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<v Speaker 1>are individuals collaborating with their teammates, but also with subject

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<v Speaker 1>matter experts and IBM professionals with deep knowledge and experience

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<v Speaker 1>in the technologies and the company's products. So so while

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<v Speaker 1>we're looking at a competition framework, I mean it is

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<v Speaker 1>a competition, the spirit of working together permeates the entire process.

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<v Speaker 1>I sat down with Brian from Project Al and I

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<v Speaker 1>asked him to walk me through his own background and

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<v Speaker 1>how he found himself participating in the two thousand eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>Call for Code. A lot of times I think about

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<v Speaker 1>how lucky I was to grow up at this particular time, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>in this particular place, to have the resources I have

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<v Speaker 1>and and the tools at my disposal. And what I

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<v Speaker 1>mean by that is growing up like a few things

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<v Speaker 1>really inspired me to play around with digital technology. One was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the accessibility of personal computers and UM the

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<v Speaker 1>growing accessibility of the Internet, UM one of my proudest

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<v Speaker 1>moments is I think the first real sophisticated thing I

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<v Speaker 1>did with a computer when I was about eight years

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<v Speaker 1>old is illegally downloaded music with Napster. And despite the

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<v Speaker 1>concerns um my mother had about that, I think it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of opens your mind to this understanding that there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many things you can do with digital technology, um

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<v Speaker 1>that previously just weren't possible, uh in other industries or professions, careers,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly things that are limited by the physical manifestations of

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<v Speaker 1>the world around you. Of course, software is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in a way I'd like to say, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like not real, right, it's just code. Um, and some

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<v Speaker 1>other experiences too. I'll never forget. UM. What pushed me

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<v Speaker 1>need to learn how to code originally was the first

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<v Speaker 1>time I played, Uh, my favorite video game of all

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<v Speaker 1>time was the first Halo. I mean, did you ever

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<v Speaker 1>play that? Oh? I? Oh yeah, no, I'm I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>big Halo Marathon fan. So yeah, um, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>amazing game, right, but I'll never forget when I played that,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought to myself, this is the coolest thing I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen. I need to learn how to make things

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Um. So I bought this book called three

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<v Speaker 1>D Game Programming All in One and it, uh, it

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<v Speaker 1>was like a thousand pages long and it's all about

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<v Speaker 1>C plus plus video game development. So I thought to myself, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>how hard could that be? Little did I know? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but that was really an introduction and those kind of

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<v Speaker 1>experiences that I mentioned from Napster, you know, playing video

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<v Speaker 1>games thinking about how to build them, that was just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what I was doing through my teenage years

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<v Speaker 1>and then even through college and well, I studied mechanical engineering. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I struggled to find an outlet for the work I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do. UM. You know, I distinctly remember applying

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<v Speaker 1>in six months prior to my graduation and the six

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<v Speaker 1>months after applying to almost a hundred jobs. And these weren't,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just random things that were within my area

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<v Speaker 1>that I studied. I graduated with degreen mechanical engineering in

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<v Speaker 1>four years, UM from the University of Rochester. And of

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<v Speaker 1>all those applications, you know how many jobs I got?

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<v Speaker 1>How many? Zero? Yikes. So it was kind of at

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<v Speaker 1>that moment that I was like, well, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>if this isn't gonna work doing a traditional route, I

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<v Speaker 1>might as well just do something I'm really passionate about.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's when I kind of dug back into coding

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit and really peeled back the curtain on

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<v Speaker 1>the hackathon environment. And now, I'm sure you're familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>a hackathon or the mechanics of it, and probably most

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<v Speaker 1>of your listeners, but for those who are in a

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<v Speaker 1>hackathons kind of just like a coding competition, right and

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<v Speaker 1>and companies from all over the world will will put

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<v Speaker 1>on these competitions, from IBM certainly too Poor sher Mercedes

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<v Speaker 1>Benz to UH, the US government, UM, the Red Cross,

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of organizations. And typically what they'll do is

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<v Speaker 1>they'll say something like, Hey, if we're a car company,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got this new a p i UM for you

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<v Speaker 1>to build on our on our on our vehicles, and

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<v Speaker 1>what we want you developers to do is come up

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<v Speaker 1>with amazing stuff, be creative, build out something incredible, pitch

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<v Speaker 1>it to us, and the best ones you're gonna get paid.

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<v Speaker 1>And for me, this was like the coolest thing in

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<v Speaker 1>the world because it put together two things that I

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely loved that I really couldn't find anywhere else. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's you know, I'm a huge sports fan Philadelphia Eagles

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<v Speaker 1>for life. UM. I also played soccer my my whole

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<v Speaker 1>life grown up, and I'm a big fan of the sport.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love that like innate competitive spirit, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just get on a field and go and compete

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<v Speaker 1>and try to win. But I also love going back

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<v Speaker 1>to the Halo and Napster thing, like just that interest

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<v Speaker 1>to just build stuff, you know, come up with ideas.

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<v Speaker 1>And a hackathon I think is so unique because it's

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<v Speaker 1>able to put those two uh perspectives together, the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the interest to just go compete in an environment at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time do that while building incredible creative technology.

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<v Speaker 1>And so for a few years I was hopping around

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<v Speaker 1>um going to hackathons and and I kind of got

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<v Speaker 1>a groove in it, started winning a few, making a

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<v Speaker 1>career out of it, and one thing led to the next,

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<v Speaker 1>and then of course competed in the IBM Call for Code,

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<v Speaker 1>and here we are today. I asked a Lisa Macklin

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<v Speaker 1>of IBM to give an elevator pitch to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>explain what the Call for Code is all about a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about the background for for the Call for

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<v Speaker 1>Code challenge. And one of the things that of course,

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<v Speaker 1>UH it is really important is understanding what matters to developers.

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<v Speaker 1>And an interesting insight on developers is that eight per

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<v Speaker 1>cent of them code as a hobby. They work on

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<v Speaker 1>coding projects at night, in the morning, in over the weekends,

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<v Speaker 1>in their spare time, and they are inherently problem solvers.

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<v Speaker 1>And for most software developers, coding isn't just a profession,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really a passion. And one of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>we really see also with developers is uh tremendous use

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<v Speaker 1>of open source technology, and I think an interesting insight

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<v Speaker 1>there is that developers enjoy working together collaborating on projects

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<v Speaker 1>which open source helps them to do. So in thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about how can we help developers with their UH, their

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<v Speaker 1>love of side projects, of learning and developing new skills,

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<v Speaker 1>combined with the desire which is a long held focus

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<v Speaker 1>of of IBM S is using technology for good, creating

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<v Speaker 1>innovation that matters, taking the technology that we have with

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<v Speaker 1>artificial intelligence and blockchain and others and using those to

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<v Speaker 1>really help make the world a better place. And we

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<v Speaker 1>know that the majority of developers are interested in the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing. Most of them, as they're working on side

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<v Speaker 1>projects are doing work that has societal benefit. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>really what created the UH. The spark behind ying the

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<v Speaker 1>Call for Code Challenge. We wanted to see what twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four million developers around the world would do if they

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<v Speaker 1>were given access to the technology and also an understanding

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<v Speaker 1>of some of these UH major world problems that they

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<v Speaker 1>could help tackle. So with Call for Code, where IBM

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<v Speaker 1>is a is the founding member of Call for Code,

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<v Speaker 1>we launched it UH in tighten with the David Clark

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<v Speaker 1>caused the Linux Foundation of working with the United Nations,

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<v Speaker 1>and we wanted to focus on something that was really

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<v Speaker 1>really important each year. The Call for Code was is

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<v Speaker 1>a five year program and we started with a focus

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<v Speaker 1>on natural disasters. We knew that this is an area

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<v Speaker 1>that was an increasing problem around the world and one

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<v Speaker 1>that technology could could help, and so in launching Call

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<v Speaker 1>for Code in we asked developers to create solutions for

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<v Speaker 1>these problems, and we were really blown away by the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of engagement that we got. We had over a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand participants in that first year, creating some three

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<v Speaker 1>thousand software applications, and over the last two years it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's grown tremendously. We had nearly two hundred thousand participants

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<v Speaker 1>in the Call for Code nineteen and UH. What I

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<v Speaker 1>think is really amazing too is we had participation across

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred and sixty five countries. So we saw a

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<v Speaker 1>tremendous amount of of interest and engagement in creating these

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<v Speaker 1>sustainable solutions, leveraging open source and working not just developers,

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<v Speaker 1>but typically teams that involved other experts. We had teams

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<v Speaker 1>that were comprised of developers and UH first responders, medical professionals, students,

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<v Speaker 1>groups coming together to work on an amazing range array

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<v Speaker 1>of problems. And as Brian would explain to me, Call

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<v Speaker 1>for Code stands apart from other hackathon type events. The

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<v Speaker 1>IBM Call for Code UH focused on originally, well still

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<v Speaker 1>to this day, natural disasters, although they've kind of segmented

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<v Speaker 1>and focused even a little more under that umbrella. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe this year's competition is focusing on climate change. UH

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<v Speaker 1>certainly has implications to natural disasters UM. And so one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that I think was really interesting about

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<v Speaker 1>the IBM Call for Code UM apart from all the

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<v Speaker 1>other hackathons I've been to, and one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of left me frustrated with the hackathon community was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you go to these events. UM. Sometimes they're smaller,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes they're larger than the Call for Code is certainly

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<v Speaker 1>a huge hackathon, um, but even you know, there are

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<v Speaker 1>other in person events Call for codes at three month long,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least it wasn't it might be longer shorter

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<v Speaker 1>now three month long virtual things, so you can compete

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<v Speaker 1>from anywhere. But some of the hackathons I would go to, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>like we would put three hundred developers in the basement

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<v Speaker 1>of the Venetian Hotel in Las Vegas for a weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>and you'd like compete on different enterprise hackathons like PayPal

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<v Speaker 1>would be their visa some other folks. Um. But what's

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<v Speaker 1>so unique about Call for Code, and what I think

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<v Speaker 1>really sets this apart is their commitment to actually see

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<v Speaker 1>the solutions through. And I think that's really important, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>within the context of natural disasters, because so often that

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<v Speaker 1>these hackathons you'll see great ideas or at least that

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<v Speaker 1>first like nugget of an idea. You know, if great

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<v Speaker 1>ideas are one percent inspiration and perspiration, and hackathon is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like that one percent. The part of Call

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<v Speaker 1>for Code that really impresses me and the reason I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's the most important technology competition in the world

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<v Speaker 1>today is the commitment to see the work through in

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<v Speaker 1>the end to actually make an impact in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that is fostered an exceptional community of developers.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said at the top of the episode, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the interesting things about Call for Code is that

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<v Speaker 1>it brings together too seemingly opposing philosophies cooperation and competition. Well,

0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:39.120
<v Speaker 1>Call for Code is structured as a competition. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>deep culture of collaboration throughout the program. A Lissa of

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<v Speaker 1>IBM explains, one of the things that really struck me

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<v Speaker 1>early on is that, you know, the the open source

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<v Speaker 1>movement is about collaboration and about achieving more faster by

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<v Speaker 1>working together, and that also means that projects live on

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<v Speaker 1>in open source. So one of the things that really

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<v Speaker 1>inspired me hearing from I participated in a number of

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<v Speaker 1>of hackathons around the world. We do about six hundred

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<v Speaker 1>of these every year, bringing developers and uh different parts

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<v Speaker 1>of the world working with them together on their solutions.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I found incredibly motivating hearing from the developers

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<v Speaker 1>is that they were excited that this wasn't a one

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<v Speaker 1>and done, It wasn't you know, a twenty four hour

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<v Speaker 1>hack where they come in, they create things, are great ideas,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they move on. These are projects that can

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<v Speaker 1>live on and be built out by developers around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was also the thing in working with the

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<v Speaker 1>United Nations that they really keyed in on, because there

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<v Speaker 1>are so many software driven solutions that don't require lot

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<v Speaker 1>of infrastructure, even things like you know, early warning systems

0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:07.320
<v Speaker 1>for tsunamis as an example, if you have access to

0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:12.360
<v Speaker 1>the weather data, if you have a smartphone, you can

0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:15.080
<v Speaker 1>get those alerts which save lives. And this is the

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<v Speaker 1>type of thing that someone could create working on open

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<v Speaker 1>source in one part of the world, and then it

0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:26.600
<v Speaker 1>could be adapted for conditions in different parts of the world.

0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:32.199
<v Speaker 1>Buy software developers virtually any place anywhere somebody has a

0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:34.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, a laptop and a smartphone. And the U

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<v Speaker 1>n was particularly interested in this because they saw the

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<v Speaker 1>long term sustainability and in terms of how the developers

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<v Speaker 1>are working together. I think this is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that really inspired me as well over the last

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<v Speaker 1>two years, is seeing how these groups come together. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that Brian may have told you that the

0:17:56.840 --> 0:18:00.320
<v Speaker 1>five members of the team that he's on with jacked

0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:02.960
<v Speaker 1>oal from different parts of the United States and different

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<v Speaker 1>parts of the world, and they met on a Slack

0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:08.760
<v Speaker 1>channel uh, and we saw a lot of that. UH.

0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:13.399
<v Speaker 1>The The winner of of Call for Code nineteen is

0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:18.080
<v Speaker 1>a team that at Barcelona based and there's a firefighter,

0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:24.400
<v Speaker 1>a nurse and three developers. So it's different different groups

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<v Speaker 1>collaborating together, meeting each other either in person or in

0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:34.600
<v Speaker 1>hackathons or meeting virtually working on these open source projects,

0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:39.600
<v Speaker 1>and they continue to collaborate over time. Brian confirmed what

0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:43.119
<v Speaker 1>Alisa was saying describing how his team came together during

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<v Speaker 1>the first Call for Code. I had known a few

0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:49.520
<v Speaker 1>of the co founders previously, we competed against each other

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<v Speaker 1>at hackathons UM, but one of the founders of Project Owl,

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<v Speaker 1>Magus Pereira, him and I had just met in the slack.

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<v Speaker 1>I think digital technology and like meeting someone on a

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<v Speaker 1>message board and Slack might seem like a little weird

0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:05.800
<v Speaker 1>and different, right, you didn't run into this person in

0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:10.880
<v Speaker 1>a room, you didn't meet at like a conference, UM,

0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:15.000
<v Speaker 1>but it's really effective at putting people together who have

0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:19.280
<v Speaker 1>like minds, like skill sets, and like ambitions. And I

0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:22.359
<v Speaker 1>remember Maggis had just posted some message about what he

0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:24.800
<v Speaker 1>was interested in. We connected and had a call and

0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:30.200
<v Speaker 1>I just still to this day distinctly remember his creativity,

0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:34.640
<v Speaker 1>passion and interest in building unique solutions, and so even

0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:37.400
<v Speaker 1>after one call, we we just kind of agreed, like, man,

0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:41.080
<v Speaker 1>we gotta work together, Like how can we facilitate this

0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:45.000
<v Speaker 1>because I think there's a lot you have to offer

0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:46.920
<v Speaker 1>that you're interested in. And I feel the same way

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<v Speaker 1>about myself and the team we've already put together. So

0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:54.080
<v Speaker 1>we I don't know if they still use Slack or

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<v Speaker 1>how they do the collaborative piece, but the environment of

0:19:57.640 --> 0:20:00.320
<v Speaker 1>all these developers showing up to just want to build

0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:04.320
<v Speaker 1>something great while still inspiring people to have that competitive

0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:08.600
<v Speaker 1>nature um I think is a really fascinating experience. And

0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:11.480
<v Speaker 1>IBM puts on call for code satellite events, so like

0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:15.840
<v Speaker 1>many hackathons all over the world during the main overarching event,

0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:19.280
<v Speaker 1>and this is another way to like plug in, try

0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:21.760
<v Speaker 1>something quickly, see if you've got an idea for the

0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:26.200
<v Speaker 1>bigger competition, and meet other technologists in the environment to

0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:29.800
<v Speaker 1>to really make this happen. This brings us up with

0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:33.480
<v Speaker 1>what Project al would specifically focus on, which all revolved

0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:38.640
<v Speaker 1>around hurricanes specifically with regards to what we did as

0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:42.639
<v Speaker 1>we were going into call for code. Uh, we uniquely are.

0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:44.879
<v Speaker 1>Our original team of five was spread out across the

0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:48.560
<v Speaker 1>United States still is today, but we were at the time, Um,

0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Charlie was in Houston, Magus in North Carolina, myself, Terra,

0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Core and Nick in New York City, and very recently

0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:04.240
<v Speaker 1>at the time, Charlie and Houston had gone through Hurricane Harvey,

0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:07.920
<v Speaker 1>a massive hurricane caused a lot of economic damage in Houston,

0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:13.120
<v Speaker 1>and Magus during the competition went through Hurricane Florence, so,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and kind of the outset, we felt, well,

0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:20.160
<v Speaker 1>it seems like hurricanes are probably a pretty good thing

0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:25.000
<v Speaker 1>to try to approach here. These have been quite a problem, um,

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<v Speaker 1>And not only are they a problem that hits close

0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:30.600
<v Speaker 1>to home for us, because we've all been through them,

0:21:30.640 --> 0:21:32.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, even still to this day. I'm here in

0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:35.520
<v Speaker 1>New York City. I live on the L Train. Hurricane

0:21:35.560 --> 0:21:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Sandy ripped through New York City in two thousand twelve,

0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:42.800
<v Speaker 1>and uh, they're still shutting down the L Train to

0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:45.800
<v Speaker 1>repair it for like eight years later. So the team

0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:48.760
<v Speaker 1>knew what type of natural disaster they wanted to focus

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<v Speaker 1>on next. They thought about how technology could help people

0:21:52.200 --> 0:21:55.800
<v Speaker 1>affected by a hurricane. So in the absence of being

0:21:55.800 --> 0:21:59.359
<v Speaker 1>able to stop these natural disasters, we really couldn't do

0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:02.679
<v Speaker 1>that yet um, and we can't do that now, and

0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:05.720
<v Speaker 1>maybe in the long run there might be something there,

0:22:05.760 --> 0:22:08.960
<v Speaker 1>but in the absence of being able to stop them,

0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:13.719
<v Speaker 1>we felt okay, Well, what we can do is enable

0:22:13.880 --> 0:22:18.359
<v Speaker 1>people to prepare for and deal with them as effectively

0:22:18.400 --> 0:22:24.360
<v Speaker 1>as possible. And the first obvious problem is that when

0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:28.119
<v Speaker 1>a hurricane rips through it destroys everything, most notably the

0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:36.159
<v Speaker 1>infrastructure to provide organization, whereabouts and logistics in a community,

0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:40.240
<v Speaker 1>and that, of course is partly where the name Owl

0:22:40.320 --> 0:22:46.000
<v Speaker 1>came from. UM. So our focus was really that if

0:22:46.080 --> 0:22:50.840
<v Speaker 1>we could find a way to quickly, easily and cheaply

0:22:51.520 --> 0:22:54.879
<v Speaker 1>bring back communications in a place that either didn't have

0:22:55.000 --> 0:22:57.960
<v Speaker 1>it or lost it, that could be a really advantageous

0:22:58.200 --> 0:23:02.600
<v Speaker 1>solution to these communities. And while the immediate devastation left

0:23:02.600 --> 0:23:05.640
<v Speaker 1>behind after a hurricane is playing to see, Brian's team

0:23:05.720 --> 0:23:09.280
<v Speaker 1>knew that they challenge lasts longer than a day or

0:23:09.320 --> 0:23:12.959
<v Speaker 1>a week following a hurricane, and that communications plays a

0:23:13.080 --> 0:23:16.520
<v Speaker 1>vital role in that timeframe. I think it's important to

0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:21.600
<v Speaker 1>note that particularly for hurricanes, though I suspect this is

0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:25.919
<v Speaker 1>true for most other types of disasters. To UM, the

0:23:25.920 --> 0:23:30.120
<v Speaker 1>the majority of the death toll and the economic devastation

0:23:30.280 --> 0:23:34.680
<v Speaker 1>occurs not during the immediacy of you know, the wind

0:23:34.720 --> 0:23:37.879
<v Speaker 1>and the rain and the thunder. It's it's the long

0:23:37.920 --> 0:23:42.440
<v Speaker 1>tail after. When you don't have roads and physical infrastructure,

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:44.200
<v Speaker 1>you can't get to places. You can't get to love

0:23:44.280 --> 0:23:46.920
<v Speaker 1>the ones, You can't get to medical facilities. When you

0:23:46.960 --> 0:23:50.199
<v Speaker 1>don't have communications, you can't effectively coordinate to put the

0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:53.520
<v Speaker 1>right resources in the places they need to be UM,

0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:55.840
<v Speaker 1>nor can you contact loved ones to see if they

0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:59.960
<v Speaker 1>need help. UM. Elderly can't get medications they need food.

0:24:00.000 --> 0:24:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Food is not adequately distributed to the places that need

0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:07.960
<v Speaker 1>it most based on who needs what UM. So when

0:24:07.960 --> 0:24:13.399
<v Speaker 1>these infrastructures go down, particularly the communications piece, you lose

0:24:13.520 --> 0:24:19.320
<v Speaker 1>the ability for society to function on the plane that

0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:23.200
<v Speaker 1>we are currently accustomed to. So their solution was twofold,

0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:28.000
<v Speaker 1>create small, durable and inexpensive network hardware that responders could

0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:31.520
<v Speaker 1>rapidly deploy in a region, and a software platform that

0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:36.800
<v Speaker 1>enabled communications and other operations across that network. The idea

0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:41.280
<v Speaker 1>seems simple and elegant, but as Brian and his team discovered,

0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:44.200
<v Speaker 1>achieving that goal in the real world is a bit

0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:48.639
<v Speaker 1>more complicated. To be clear, there were a whole host

0:24:48.720 --> 0:24:51.879
<v Speaker 1>of challenges at the outset, and there are many many

0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:55.400
<v Speaker 1>more today that we still need to solve. Um. A

0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:58.560
<v Speaker 1>phrase I like to use that never seems to connect

0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:02.600
<v Speaker 1>with people, but I feel as appropriate is something maybe

0:25:02.600 --> 0:25:05.359
<v Speaker 1>you've ever heard, the saying, uh, it's turtles all the

0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:07.680
<v Speaker 1>way down. I think it came from like a joke

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:12.879
<v Speaker 1>in physics that, uh, some person said to a physics professor,

0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:15.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, the Earth isn't in space, it's just sitting

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:19.240
<v Speaker 1>on the back of a turtle. And the professor says, oh, okay, okay, sure,

0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:22.400
<v Speaker 1>So what's that turtle sitting on? And the person responds

0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:27.160
<v Speaker 1>like another turtle And there the professor goes, okay, and

0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:29.560
<v Speaker 1>what's that turtle sitting on And the person goes, oh,

0:25:29.640 --> 0:25:34.119
<v Speaker 1>it's turtles all the way down. My my point and

0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:36.879
<v Speaker 1>the reason I think this is appropriate. Maybe I'm crazy,

0:25:36.880 --> 0:25:40.720
<v Speaker 1>maybe this has no relationship, but the point is, as

0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:43.360
<v Speaker 1>we are kind of peeling back the covers. I'm, by

0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:46.560
<v Speaker 1>the way, I'm not an IoT guy. Sure, I'm a technologist,

0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:51.400
<v Speaker 1>like I can code. I know how to use Google right, um,

0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:55.080
<v Speaker 1>which interestingly is like one of the core skill sets

0:25:55.080 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 1>of programmer needs to be able to have how to

0:25:58.320 --> 0:26:03.520
<v Speaker 1>learn new technologies and figure things out. Um. Nobody on

0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:07.000
<v Speaker 1>our team was like a professional IoT developer. I mean

0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:11.359
<v Speaker 1>even when we started developing, I would be writing code

0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:14.400
<v Speaker 1>for the firmware, but I didn't actually know what language

0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I was writing in. I just knew that it worked. Yeah,

0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:20.399
<v Speaker 1>none of us had like a professional background to do

0:26:20.440 --> 0:26:22.560
<v Speaker 1>any of this. So if anybody's thinking like you need

0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:26.200
<v Speaker 1>some you know, college degree or a career, No, none

0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:28.359
<v Speaker 1>of that. And how this relates to my point of

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:30.240
<v Speaker 1>its turtles all the way down. As we were starting,

0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:33.360
<v Speaker 1>we started like peeling back the covers on. Okay, well,

0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:35.359
<v Speaker 1>what if we could get this little IoT device to

0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:38.600
<v Speaker 1>connect to another device? That would be pretty cool. And uh,

0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:41.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, we peel back the cover, play around with

0:26:41.240 --> 0:26:44.800
<v Speaker 1>the radio technologies we used Laura nine fifteen mega hurts

0:26:44.960 --> 0:26:49.400
<v Speaker 1>here in the United States. Um, And when we solve

0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:51.760
<v Speaker 1>one problem, we make little progress. We'd say, oh that's

0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:53.320
<v Speaker 1>really cool. All right, what if we could do the

0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:55.760
<v Speaker 1>next thing? And that's when we realize, wait, we need

0:26:55.800 --> 0:27:01.879
<v Speaker 1>to like write a codec for this radio. Geez okay, Um,

0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:05.159
<v Speaker 1>all right, well once we figured that out, all right,

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:09.160
<v Speaker 1>these Laura radios say they can communicate over like two kilometers. Great,

0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Well wait a minute. When we went down to Puerto Rico,

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:14.480
<v Speaker 1>they're only working at two ds. What the hell is

0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:17.680
<v Speaker 1>going on? Oh? Heat and humidity are a big problem,

0:27:17.760 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 1>and foliage and metals just like another huge problem for radio.

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:27.639
<v Speaker 1>So every problem we would find and then address, there

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:31.119
<v Speaker 1>would just be like five others underneath it that we

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:34.000
<v Speaker 1>had to to solve. And I feel another way to

0:27:34.040 --> 0:27:39.080
<v Speaker 1>think about this technology challenges like it's a game of

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:44.480
<v Speaker 1>whack a mole of like infinite size. Right, So you

0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:46.920
<v Speaker 1>keep knocking down a couple of moles and a few

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 1>more keep popping up and and what's impressive and I

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 1>think shows your ability to execute, is how quickly you

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:58.600
<v Speaker 1>can move through the field. Um. And on the IoT side,

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:04.360
<v Speaker 1>you know it's hard. People say hardware is hard. It's true. Um.

0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 1>And also you have to consider in the long run, uh,

0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:13.720
<v Speaker 1>the business case for hardware you're making and for project out.

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:17.200
<v Speaker 1>This was a discussion and a conversation we thought about

0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:21.640
<v Speaker 1>for a long time. UM, because we understood and still

0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:24.640
<v Speaker 1>do to this day that ultimately, if we were ever

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:27.159
<v Speaker 1>to make a dent in a market. You know, I

0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:29.960
<v Speaker 1>think we've got a great brand. I think we have

0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:34.680
<v Speaker 1>incredible nomenclature and design. But at the end of the day,

0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:38.720
<v Speaker 1>if Intel looked at any of our stuff, they could say,

0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:41.480
<v Speaker 1>all right, let's put ten engineers on this and give

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:43.920
<v Speaker 1>them five million dollars and they'll have a better, faster,

0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 1>cheaper product than you, and we will put you out

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 1>of business tomorrow. Oh and we also have economies of

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:54.680
<v Speaker 1>scale for manufacturing. So you need to consider how can

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 1>this integrate into a business model, because that's what it

0:28:57.360 --> 0:28:59.120
<v Speaker 1>enables you to work on this for a very long

0:28:59.160 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 1>period of time. Project OWL faces many challenges, both from

0:29:03.680 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 1>technical and market standpoints. Not only must the team build

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 1>a working system in which custom built hardware and software

0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 1>work together, they must also find a way to make

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:18.680
<v Speaker 1>that a sustainable business. The hardware side of the project

0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:21.480
<v Speaker 1>presented many challenges as the team worked to create a

0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 1>working mesh network infrastructure that was durable, deployable, and cost effective.

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:30.240
<v Speaker 1>But I wanted to know more about the software side

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 1>and how Brian's team tapped into IBM, S Watson platform

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:37.840
<v Speaker 1>and cloud computing capabilities. Yeah, so that there were kind

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 1>of like two halves to our solution, uh and and

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 1>they nicely fit under the hardware and the software, and

0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 1>both of them enabled unique capability that I think together

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 1>made one complete solution. UM. So the way we kind

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 1>of looked at it was the software provided an incident

0:29:55.080 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>management of sorts away to UM leverage data form analytics,

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 1>do some intelligent things, and then the ducks, of course

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:06.960
<v Speaker 1>provided the way to acquire that data on the ground,

0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 1>particularly in locations that don't have any infrastructure. Electricity has gone,

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 1>communications are gone. The software is UM. It's it's changed

0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 1>a bit from the competition. You know, we pitched a

0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 1>lot of stuff that we found people just didn't care about.

0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Our customers, clients, partners didn't care about but we thought

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 1>it was really cool. UM. But when we originally pitched

0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 1>the solution, I think at the time they were like

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:39.240
<v Speaker 1>twelve IBM, Watson, a p I, s UM, and we

0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 1>had incorporated every single one of them in the solution.

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:45.680
<v Speaker 1>So these things, these things were like text to speech,

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 1>speech to text UM. There are some others like knowledge catalog,

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:53.800
<v Speaker 1>pattern recognitions, and I don't remember all of them by

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:56.240
<v Speaker 1>name at this point in time, but they could enable

0:30:56.280 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 1>you to do certain things, whether it was speech to

0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 1>text being kind of giving it an intelligent feel um,

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 1>and then some other things like Watson Discovery giving it

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:10.480
<v Speaker 1>more of an intelligent brain. Uh. And this these API

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 1>s enabled you to act on data to do certain

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:20.880
<v Speaker 1>things that would be very hard to write code for yourself. UM.

0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, natural language understanding. So we had a conversational

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:27.960
<v Speaker 1>assistant you could just talk to for the OWL. UH.

0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:29.880
<v Speaker 1>At the time, it was the I M S it's

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:33.800
<v Speaker 1>now the Data Management System the d M s UM.

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:36.160
<v Speaker 1>And when someone would write in a message like hey,

0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 1>can I create an incident Hurricane Florence and it's in uh,

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:45.080
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina, we could run Natural Language Understanding and that

0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:48.400
<v Speaker 1>would pull out things like the name, locations and tell

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 1>us other interesting things this person said, versus of course,

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:53.680
<v Speaker 1>if you're just writing raw code to do that, you're

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 1>never gonna be able to match the sophistication of a

0:31:57.280 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 1>cloud software tool like this. So IBM Watson was great

0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 1>in that it UM it provided all these cool A

0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:07.480
<v Speaker 1>p I s you could play with. And I think

0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:11.440
<v Speaker 1>one element that IBM did exceptionally well was they have

0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 1>these code patterns that you can just go online, pull down,

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 1>play with um. You know, with if anyone listening has

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:22.120
<v Speaker 1>ever written code before, you know that one of the

0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 1>best ways to learn is to just find someone else's

0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:27.360
<v Speaker 1>code and screw around with it or adapted to another

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 1>use case. And that's what IBM is. A great ecosystem

0:32:31.840 --> 0:32:35.640
<v Speaker 1>of not only the services to build with, but kind

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:38.400
<v Speaker 1>of the tutorials and the information to like say, okay,

0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:40.800
<v Speaker 1>this sounds cool, like can you just show me how

0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:43.960
<v Speaker 1>to make something with it. As Brian mentioned, Project Al

0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 1>tapped into ibms Watson platform in several significant ways. Watson

0:32:49.000 --> 0:32:52.440
<v Speaker 1>is a suite of services from IBM, and it leverages

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 1>artificial intelligence to an incredible extent. It's designed in such

0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:59.920
<v Speaker 1>a way that developers can tap into these powerful processes

0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:03.960
<v Speaker 1>without having to build everything themselves. So if a developer

0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:07.200
<v Speaker 1>has an idea for a cool application that would lean

0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 1>heavily on something that's traditionally really hard to do, like

0:33:11.640 --> 0:33:15.600
<v Speaker 1>natural language processing, you know, having a computer understand what

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 1>we mean when we communicate the way we typically communicate,

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 1>not as a machine would, but as a human would.

0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Machines are not naturally good at that. You have to

0:33:25.840 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 1>really work hard to make them understand well. Most developers

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 1>can't do that on their own, but they could lean

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:35.600
<v Speaker 1>on a Watson a p I that's the application programming

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:40.440
<v Speaker 1>interface to handle that part of their service, so they

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 1>can focus on whatever it is the app is supposed

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 1>to do, and the natural language part can be handled

0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:50.120
<v Speaker 1>by the Watson platform. Now, I think most people who

0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:53.720
<v Speaker 1>have heard about IBM Watson think back to the system's

0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 1>famous appearance on the television game show Jeopardy, and Watson

0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:01.520
<v Speaker 1>acquitted itself pretty well on that show it won the competition.

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:04.560
<v Speaker 1>But it turns out it's much more than a trivia

0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:07.600
<v Speaker 1>answering machine. In a way. You can think of Watson

0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 1>as access to an array of AI capabilities, and the

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Project Al team attempted to take advantage of every single

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:20.359
<v Speaker 1>one of those. Interestingly, as Brian mentioned, they found out

0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:24.440
<v Speaker 1>that in the real world people didn't necessarily use all

0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:28.200
<v Speaker 1>the features Project Owl had included in their service, and

0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:33.279
<v Speaker 1>this helps illustrate another big challenge facing any developer or engineer.

0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:36.320
<v Speaker 1>What seems like a brilliant idea in the conference room

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:38.920
<v Speaker 1>or as was the case with Project Owl on the

0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:43.279
<v Speaker 1>Slack channel, may not translate in the real world. It's

0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:47.399
<v Speaker 1>not that the idea itself is bad necessarily, but rather

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:51.560
<v Speaker 1>that it's less applicable than the designer's first thought, so

0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:53.680
<v Speaker 1>some ideas might turn out to be best suited for

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 1>other applications in the future. The development process at Project

0:34:57.400 --> 0:35:01.759
<v Speaker 1>Owl continues. The original design led heavily on individual Mesh

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:06.200
<v Speaker 1>network devices the team called ducks because like a rubber duck,

0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:08.840
<v Speaker 1>they were meant to be small and capable of floating.

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:12.440
<v Speaker 1>The individual ducks linked together through a hub unit called

0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:15.960
<v Speaker 1>a Mama duck, which can then send information over to

0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:21.000
<v Speaker 1>a infrastructure component called a Papa duck that links the

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Mesh network to the Internet at large. But even without PAPA,

0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:28.759
<v Speaker 1>the Mesh network itself can provide on site communications and

0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 1>logistics support within the region. The team's pitch one the

0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:35.600
<v Speaker 1>two thousand eight teen Call for Code, and I asked

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Brian what that actually meant on a practical level. Of course,

0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:42.200
<v Speaker 1>there was a monetary prize and that kind of enabled

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:46.319
<v Speaker 1>us to, you know, not focus on other things. And

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:49.200
<v Speaker 1>there was also a lot of support from IBM, so

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:52.399
<v Speaker 1>a commitment from IBM r S to help us see

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:56.400
<v Speaker 1>the work through, and one of the biggest manifestations of

0:35:56.440 --> 0:35:59.840
<v Speaker 1>that was the Corporate Service Corps deployment. So in March

0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:07.080
<v Speaker 1>last year, five handpicked ibm r s from around the world. UM,

0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:12.200
<v Speaker 1>if I'm recalling correctly, they were from the United States, Canada, Israel,

0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:17.200
<v Speaker 1>the United Kingdom. Yeah, that that's total. Two of them

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:20.840
<v Speaker 1>were from the United States. UM. And this group was

0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:24.280
<v Speaker 1>exceptional with a diverse skill set of talents and being

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:27.920
<v Speaker 1>able to like go to Puerto Rico with our very

0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:32.200
<v Speaker 1>you know rough hackathon project and have five expert ibm

0:36:32.280 --> 0:36:35.840
<v Speaker 1>r s there with skills in you know, from branding

0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:40.960
<v Speaker 1>and communications to design, to engineering to back end to

0:36:41.000 --> 0:36:46.360
<v Speaker 1>front end software development. UM. This really kicked our solution

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:50.960
<v Speaker 1>into high gear, not just with the work they produced,

0:36:51.560 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 1>but also I have vivid memories leading up to our

0:36:57.280 --> 0:37:00.320
<v Speaker 1>our Puerto Rico one as we called it to pointment

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:06.600
<v Speaker 1>last March, our first official deployment to Puerto Rico. UM,

0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:09.280
<v Speaker 1>I have memories of you know, hopping on our screen

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:13.879
<v Speaker 1>shares in the mornings and uh hearing the Corporate Serve

0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:17.719
<v Speaker 1>Corporate Service Corps members saying to us like, hey, project OWL,

0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:25.120
<v Speaker 1>none of your stuff works right now. We were like, uh, yeah,

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:30.160
<v Speaker 1>you're right. Um, you know, because again like a hackathon

0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:34.239
<v Speaker 1>is is about pitching an idea, and anyone who's been

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:37.759
<v Speaker 1>through hackathon understands that you don't have a fleshed out

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 1>enterprise product. It's just not possible to do that given

0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:46.279
<v Speaker 1>your time constraints and resource constraints. So if you can

0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:48.719
<v Speaker 1>cobble together the idea, you can kind of work out

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:51.879
<v Speaker 1>the kinks if people take an interest in it. And

0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I think the commitment of IBM to provide that support,

0:37:55.200 --> 0:38:01.120
<v Speaker 1>to provide experts, to provide UH the help in the

0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:06.920
<v Speaker 1>field as you're deploying it is a huge benefit. Two,

0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:12.600
<v Speaker 1>you're fledgling organization's ability to scale and grow, and so

0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:16.680
<v Speaker 1>that for me was the in a way, was the

0:38:16.719 --> 0:38:21.920
<v Speaker 1>most valuable part that we didn't really even consider at

0:38:21.960 --> 0:38:24.319
<v Speaker 1>the time when we had won, but in hindsight it

0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:29.600
<v Speaker 1>was really exceptional. Project Owl continues to refine their technology

0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:33.359
<v Speaker 1>and approach, taking the experiences they've encountered in the real

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:36.320
<v Speaker 1>world and using them to create a more focused approach

0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:40.200
<v Speaker 1>to achieving their goal creating a nimble, robust, and effective

0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:44.840
<v Speaker 1>communications platform using custom built hardware and software. Winning the

0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 1>competition wasn't the end of the line, but just the beginning.

0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Brian told me about the next steps for the project

0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:53.880
<v Speaker 1>as it strives to achieve the goals of the co founders.

0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:57.400
<v Speaker 1>So what's the next for Project Owl? We really after

0:38:57.440 --> 0:38:59.920
<v Speaker 1>the competition where we had spent a lot of time

0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:03.479
<v Speaker 1>focusing on engineering and design, you know, product development, coming

0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:09.160
<v Speaker 1>up with the idea, executing on that. UM. To enable

0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 1>your organization to work on a challenge over a long

0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:18.000
<v Speaker 1>period of time, you have to build a sustainable business model.

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:22.480
<v Speaker 1>So we've spent a lot of time and energy. Uh.

0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:25.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, if I was engineering software in the beginning,

0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:30.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm spending a lot of time engineering the company now.

0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:34.840
<v Speaker 1>So that's who how does project outfit in the market,

0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:37.080
<v Speaker 1>and who do we service? You know, I had mentioned

0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:41.919
<v Speaker 1>earlier our incident management system. We had all these capabilities

0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:44.400
<v Speaker 1>in it, a whole bunch of different things that could do.

0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:48.319
<v Speaker 1>And we realized that the people we wanted to go

0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:51.359
<v Speaker 1>and support, we're only really asking for one or two

0:39:51.440 --> 0:39:55.439
<v Speaker 1>of those things. So like them, we can just get

0:39:55.520 --> 0:39:59.279
<v Speaker 1>rid of them, um. And And that's a realization that

0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:01.600
<v Speaker 1>took a long time to come to, through a lot

0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:04.839
<v Speaker 1>of conversations and a lot of trial and error. And

0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:09.000
<v Speaker 1>so I spend a lot of time thinking about working

0:40:09.000 --> 0:40:11.520
<v Speaker 1>with the team is certainly still on technology. I mean,

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:14.200
<v Speaker 1>we're all nerds here and this is what we love

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 1>to do, but a lot of times thinking about how

0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:21.960
<v Speaker 1>we can put Project Out in a position to succeed

0:40:22.040 --> 0:40:25.680
<v Speaker 1>over the long term, because if we do that, then

0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:28.680
<v Speaker 1>that enables us to think about some of this other

0:40:28.760 --> 0:40:32.960
<v Speaker 1>crazy technology. When Brian and I first talked way back

0:40:33.040 --> 0:40:36.480
<v Speaker 1>at IBM think two thousand nineteen, the Project OUT team

0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:40.040
<v Speaker 1>was mainly working with the basic duck units and they

0:40:40.080 --> 0:40:42.680
<v Speaker 1>were meant to be spread over a region on the

0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:46.399
<v Speaker 1>ground mostly. But things have evolved a bit since then

0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:49.440
<v Speaker 1>and the team has come up with some more variations

0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:53.360
<v Speaker 1>on this basic technology design that they hope to develop further.

0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:57.239
<v Speaker 1>We have a whole variety of ducks, um, many more

0:40:57.320 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 1>so that when I last met you. We have detector ducks,

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:03.799
<v Speaker 1>we have disco ducks, we have cluster flocks, we have

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:06.879
<v Speaker 1>duck ducks, we have space ducks, and there are many

0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:11.840
<v Speaker 1>others um. You can actually go to our open source

0:41:11.920 --> 0:41:17.080
<v Speaker 1>firmware uh cluster Duck Protocol dot org and there at

0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:19.160
<v Speaker 1>lists a bunch of the different duck variants. You can

0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:21.000
<v Speaker 1>check out some of the other ones we made. But

0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:26.120
<v Speaker 1>space ducks was a project I did in collaboration with

0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:30.399
<v Speaker 1>UM some engineers at cal Poly to put a duck

0:41:30.480 --> 0:41:33.920
<v Speaker 1>on a very large helium balloon and send it up

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:37.640
<v Speaker 1>to a hundred thousand feet to acquire sensor readings and

0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:42.160
<v Speaker 1>try to transmit and see if it would break. And

0:41:42.239 --> 0:41:46.239
<v Speaker 1>so these are kind of, you know, that early seedlings

0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:50.399
<v Speaker 1>of ideas. Not only sure, we got great photos from that,

0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:53.600
<v Speaker 1>but I've been thinking to myself too, and the rest

0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:58.040
<v Speaker 1>of it's here, I should say, project out been thinking, Um,

0:41:58.080 --> 0:42:01.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, putting this community cations stuff on the ground

0:42:01.320 --> 0:42:03.959
<v Speaker 1>is great, but what if a hurricane comes through. I mean,

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:08.399
<v Speaker 1>it kind of just destroys everything, So we're gonna lose

0:42:08.440 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff. Well, okay, where could you put

0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:16.880
<v Speaker 1>communications things where they would stay there and even if

0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:20.360
<v Speaker 1>a hurricane rips through, they would still stay there. Well,

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:23.319
<v Speaker 1>interesting space might work. Oh and by the way, you

0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:29.000
<v Speaker 1>know what environment radio frequencies work really well in a vacuum.

0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 1>So the more we were thinking about, the more we

0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:34.279
<v Speaker 1>were considering, hey, it might be worth our time to

0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:37.360
<v Speaker 1>just start throwing some space ducks out into space and

0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:40.439
<v Speaker 1>see what catches UM, because there might be a real

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:44.120
<v Speaker 1>long term opportunity here. Brian and his team continue to

0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:47.719
<v Speaker 1>develop Project Out to move beyond a testing phase and

0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:53.200
<v Speaker 1>into fully fledged deployments and implementations. Meanwhile, the Call for

0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:55.759
<v Speaker 1>Code is underway. I asked Brian if you had any

0:42:55.840 --> 0:42:58.960
<v Speaker 1>words of advice for competitors in this year's Call for Code,

0:42:59.239 --> 0:43:05.279
<v Speaker 1>I would encourage any developer working on solutions in the

0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:10.120
<v Speaker 1>upcoming competition to think about how you can distill a

0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:14.359
<v Speaker 1>concept down to like it's fundamental atomic parts. Because if

0:43:14.400 --> 0:43:17.799
<v Speaker 1>you can do that and you find the right atomic components,

0:43:17.920 --> 0:43:22.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, like a proton, neutron, an electron, what you

0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:26.240
<v Speaker 1>find is, oh wow, actually people can make a whole

0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:30.920
<v Speaker 1>pyra periodic table of elements with these things. Right. So

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:35.359
<v Speaker 1>I think from Project That's perspective, we're very fortunate we

0:43:35.360 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 1>we certainly didn't know this at the time, but the

0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 1>original duck Link we've now developed into a whole host

0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:46.080
<v Speaker 1>of variants for different use cases, but still leveraging that

0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:51.200
<v Speaker 1>same fundamental core. And I think this similarly goes for

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<v Speaker 1>the software side in the cloud, that our data management

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<v Speaker 1>system is really slim down and simplified to the core components,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, getting data in, seeing what it is, having

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<v Speaker 1>dots appear on a map and then a p ing

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<v Speaker 1>that data out if you need to put it in

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<v Speaker 1>external systems. So those core components are are like that

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<v Speaker 1>fundamental atomic nucleus that you know. We're still just in

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<v Speaker 1>the early days of this, but we think UM can

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<v Speaker 1>inspire a lot of folks to solve problems around the

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<v Speaker 1>world in unique ways. I want to thank Brian and

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<v Speaker 1>Alisa for joining me on this episode of Smart Talks.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is just the first in this series. You'll

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<v Speaker 1>hear more conversations with people using technology to make a

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<v Speaker 1>positive impact in the world very soon. Episodes will publish

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<v Speaker 1>here on tech stuff and also over on Stuff to

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<v Speaker 1>blow your mind. You'll learn about how some really smart

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<v Speaker 1>people are changing things for the better in incredible ways.

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<v Speaker 1>So make sure you catch every episode. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>talk a lot about tech on this show, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it's easy to get lost in how tech works and

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<v Speaker 1>you lose sight of why it's important. Compa Editions like

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<v Speaker 1>Call for Code and companies like Project Al remind us

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<v Speaker 1>that these powerful tools can bring about incredible change and

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<v Speaker 1>help those who need it most. Now I have no

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<v Speaker 1>doubt I'll be talking more about Project Al in the future,

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<v Speaker 1>describing how it helped communities see two vital functions despite

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<v Speaker 1>natural disasters, and I can't wait to see what the

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<v Speaker 1>participants in Call for Code come up with as a

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<v Speaker 1>tackle climate change. Make sure you check out the other

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<v Speaker 1>episodes in the Smart Talk series as they publish over

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<v Speaker 1>the next few weeks, and if you have any suggestions

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<v Speaker 1>for future episodes of tech Stuff, feel free to reach

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<v Speaker 1>out to me on Twitter or Facebook. The handle for

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<v Speaker 1>both of those is tech Stuff H s W and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll talk to you again really soon. Text Stuff is

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<v Speaker 1>an I Heart Radio production. For more podcasts from my

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Radio, visit the i Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

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