WEBVTT - EA Podcast Episode 18: General Manager Mike Maccagnan

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Ryan Fitzpatrick and you are listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the e A Podcast with Eric Allen. Take it away. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up the e A in studio right now? It's

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<v Speaker 1>the bye week. Hope you're enjoying a RESTful weekend with

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<v Speaker 1>friends and family. I'm getting away myself. But before I

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<v Speaker 1>left Flora Park, I got a chance to speak with

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<v Speaker 1>Jets GM Mike mccagnant talk about the state of the

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<v Speaker 1>Green and White with six games remaining in the two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand sixteen schedule. We covered a lot of topics. You

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<v Speaker 1>can watch the interview on Jets Flight Plan, which airs

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<v Speaker 1>eleven thirty CBS New York or New York Jets dot

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<v Speaker 1>Com as well. But I gotta treat for you here

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<v Speaker 1>on the e A Podcast because we're gonna give you

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<v Speaker 1>our conversation and full right now. Well, your team has

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<v Speaker 1>entered the bye week. Can we get your general overall

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts where the squad is at this point in the season. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think first and foremost, Um, you know, we're obviously

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<v Speaker 1>just go with a record three and you know three

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<v Speaker 1>and seven. Um, there are some things that we feel

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<v Speaker 1>good about, you know, some of a lot of younger,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of our younger players are getting a opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>play and contribute. Um, you know, we do feel good

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<v Speaker 1>about that going forward. We obviously are disappointed in the

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<v Speaker 1>record as I mentioned, Um, and I think you know

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<v Speaker 1>when you when you look at it. Overall, Um, we

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<v Speaker 1>feel we are making progress, you know, towards where we

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<v Speaker 1>eventually want to be. But of course the wins and

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<v Speaker 1>losses at this point time are very disappointed to us.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking about making progress, you've mentioned what you've done from

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<v Speaker 1>a youth standpoint, and the roster you constantly obviously evaluate

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<v Speaker 1>that you have a lot of young players on this team.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about the wide receiver position. You're getting contributions

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<v Speaker 1>from Robby Anderson, an undrafted free agent from Temple, jay

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<v Speaker 1>Len Marshall, an undrafted free agent from Ohio State, and

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<v Speaker 1>then a seventh round pick in toront Peak from Clemson. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but all three of those guys have done a very

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<v Speaker 1>good job for us. And I think you know, going

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<v Speaker 1>in going into the draft process, um, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>very nice when you can actually hit on a late

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<v Speaker 1>around draft pick that actually has a potentially be a

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<v Speaker 1>good player for you. But then in addition to that,

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<v Speaker 1>find the two college free agents. We have both done

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<v Speaker 1>a very good job and we think all three of

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<v Speaker 1>them have a lot of upside and potential. And and

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<v Speaker 1>then obviously Robby in particular has some real big playability

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<v Speaker 1>and potential. And then the other part of it is

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<v Speaker 1>people does get lost a little bit. Is is you

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<v Speaker 1>know Devin Smith from a year ago was injured but again,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we got a chance to seem a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit last year before he got hurt. But of course

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<v Speaker 1>he's back now healthy, so that it's another young player

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of throw in the mix too. He's almost

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<v Speaker 1>because of injury last year's almost sort of red shirt

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<v Speaker 1>that first year. But it's a we feel good about

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<v Speaker 1>our receiver crew over all, and that doesn't take anything

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<v Speaker 1>away from you know, Brandon Marshall and obviously Quincy and

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<v Speaker 1>Quincy is another player has done very well for US

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<v Speaker 1>year this year, This year too, you mentioned Quincy an

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<v Speaker 1>emerging receiver in his second year as far as a

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<v Speaker 1>crude seasons in the National Football League, Did you think

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<v Speaker 1>he was ready for that next step? Have you been

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<v Speaker 1>pleasantly surprised by his development? Yeah, I think the one

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<v Speaker 1>thing you find and in last year we felt good

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<v Speaker 1>about him and we thought he is a good young player,

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<v Speaker 1>but this year is again he sort of elevated his game.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the and I think long term that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of where you know, our focus really is, is like

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<v Speaker 1>to build through the draft and built through the younger players,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course when those players do make sometimes dramatic

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<v Speaker 1>you know, improvement from year one to two, but year

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<v Speaker 1>two to three and then three to four. But Quincy's

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<v Speaker 1>done a very nice job for us. And again he's

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<v Speaker 1>a player we saw the potential on him, uh and

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<v Speaker 1>then this year in particular, he's really sort of blossom

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<v Speaker 1>and taking it to another level. I think offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>coach Steve Marshall has done an amazing job here. In

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and sixteen, reshuffled that line up numerous times

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<v Speaker 1>because of injury. Wesley Johnson started the last three games

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<v Speaker 1>for you guys at center at right tackle. Brendo Jackomani

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<v Speaker 1>started the year on the pup list, so Bena Jelana

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<v Speaker 1>and Brent Quality alternated a right tackle. After Ryan Claytey

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<v Speaker 1>went down, I Jelanna really became a swing tackle because

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<v Speaker 1>he went back to the left side. And now you

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<v Speaker 1>got Bruno back and your young guards. I think when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at this Jets team and a and a foundation,

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<v Speaker 1>how about those guys like Winners and of course James

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<v Speaker 1>Carpenter and do you like what you've seen up front? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's interesting I think going into the season,

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<v Speaker 1>and we liked a lot of those guys beforehand, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but we really didn't. They were sort of unproven. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they performed in preseason. A lot of those guys been

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<v Speaker 1>on the regular season, some of the younger guys you mentioned, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>But that's some one of the things too. When when

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<v Speaker 1>the season unfolded and um, you know, and again Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>did a nice job for us early before he got hurt,

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<v Speaker 1>but um, and then Brenda being out for the start

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<v Speaker 1>of the season, it was a bit of an unknown

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<v Speaker 1>how we were going to perform in that area. But

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<v Speaker 1>the one nice thing that came out of it was

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<v Speaker 1>all those young guys you've mentioned, you know, a particular

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<v Speaker 1>quality and Ben Um, both those guys have done a

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<v Speaker 1>nice job for us and and again now they're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>performing at a level we feel good about going forward.

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<v Speaker 1>So whereas at one point I was a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a concern for us, now it's actually turned into sort

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, an area where we actually feel pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good about. How about winners specifically, he seems like he's

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<v Speaker 1>taking his game to the next level. Became a full

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<v Speaker 1>time start or last year after Willie Cologne went out.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember his first start in London, matching up matching

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<v Speaker 1>up with the donmid Consue of course did a fine

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<v Speaker 1>job there. But he seems to be really in a

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<v Speaker 1>comfort zone right now. Yeah, And I think with Brian

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<v Speaker 1>in particularly, like he's he's you know, you look at

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<v Speaker 1>his career and he's missed a little time with injuries early. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's blossom very nicely in the fact that it's

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<v Speaker 1>a testament knowlity to Brian. But again the coaching from

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<v Speaker 1>both Steven actually David Diez and Fonte. Both those guys

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<v Speaker 1>do a very good job with the offensive line. But

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<v Speaker 1>Brian's one of those guys we were excited about going forward. Um. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>he's in that certain point of his career where he's

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<v Speaker 1>starting to you know, sort of starting to reach his

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<v Speaker 1>potential and fulfill some of his potential. So we're excited

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<v Speaker 1>about him going forward and um, obviously gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>free agent at the end of the season, but we

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<v Speaker 1>try hopefully try to keep him and get him back

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<v Speaker 1>and keep him the mix. How about the production of

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Forte. A lot of people said a thirty year

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<v Speaker 1>old running back, and you and Todd Bull said, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't see a thirty year old running back. We see

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<v Speaker 1>a good running back. And he's a guy who's getting

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<v Speaker 1>better by the game and run game has really come

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<v Speaker 1>on the last four games. I think your averaging are

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<v Speaker 1>more than a hundred fifty yards on the ground over

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<v Speaker 1>that time span. And four is a big reason why. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and and Matt was a player. I mean we obviously, um,

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<v Speaker 1>when Chris was cass Ivy was a free agent, we

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we wanted to resign Chris, but of course

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<v Speaker 1>that we knew that market was going to be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna obviously price him out at a certain level. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>So when we lost out on Chris, obviously Matt was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of our next target. Now that doesn't take away

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<v Speaker 1>anything from belal Pal who has actually done a very

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<v Speaker 1>good job for us. Also and then I guess and

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<v Speaker 1>then early late in training camp we had actually Kyrie

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<v Speaker 1>Robinson also but he injured he got injured in training camp. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but both but Matt's done a great job. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think Matt's you know, proven that, you know, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>really more of a testament not just his ability, but

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<v Speaker 1>how he approaches the game as work ethic. Um. But

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<v Speaker 1>he's done a very nice job for us. And then

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<v Speaker 1>really with him and Bilal and Blow again when we

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<v Speaker 1>utilized him, is a very good running back in his

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<v Speaker 1>own right. So it's a nice one to punch to

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<v Speaker 1>have with both of those guys, and um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of excited about both those guys going forward. How

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<v Speaker 1>about your first to overall pick as GM and the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Jets. Leonard Williams. He had a good rookie

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<v Speaker 1>campaign and now he's made that sophomore leap if you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the team stats. And I know football is

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<v Speaker 1>more than just stats, but one thing he talked about

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<v Speaker 1>all off season was I got to get to the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback more. And he certainly has despite playing in the

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<v Speaker 1>interior where you see a lot of traffic, as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's up there and tackles, tackles for loss and

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback hits as well. You know, it's interesting with Leonard

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<v Speaker 1>and Leonard was a very young player. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he actually turned twenty one until like June of last year. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>so we knew he had he had obviously been very young.

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<v Speaker 1>He still has a lot of you know, potential and

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<v Speaker 1>ability to develop. Um, but he's really blossomed into a

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<v Speaker 1>very good young player. UM. I think last year we

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<v Speaker 1>always felt very good about Leonard and we thought, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he was a very active player, very you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>very dominant player at times. Um, he was close. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he actually was one of the higher rated guys

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of number hits on the quarterback a year ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this year, obviously he sort of converted those into sacks. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that this year, at this point in

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<v Speaker 1>time last year may have only had about a half

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<v Speaker 1>sack on the season after nine or ten games. This

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<v Speaker 1>year's at six and and and really developed into a

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<v Speaker 1>very good, dominant, complete player. How about your first round

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<v Speaker 1>pick there? And Lee made a lot of contributions early,

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<v Speaker 1>he got a little bit banged up, but now I

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<v Speaker 1>was returned to the lineup. What have you seen from

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<v Speaker 1>him so far so early in his career. Well, Darren's

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<v Speaker 1>another again, another young player. When we drafted him, I

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<v Speaker 1>think he just literally was just turned twenty one or

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<v Speaker 1>just a little over that um, but again, he's a

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<v Speaker 1>very athletic linebacker. UM. I think at one point time

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<v Speaker 1>before he was injured, he was actually leading our team

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<v Speaker 1>in tackles. So he's done a very good job for

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<v Speaker 1>us and and we're excited about him going forward. But

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<v Speaker 1>he brings definitely an athletic speed element to the game.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was kind of when we lost him to

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<v Speaker 1>the the ankle injury. That was obviously unfortunate, but he

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<v Speaker 1>should be ready to going back and playing a full

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<v Speaker 1>time basis now going forward. But again, another young player

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<v Speaker 1>who you know, we like a lot as a player

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of a billion potential and the player can

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<v Speaker 1>potentially e helop into but also from a character and

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<v Speaker 1>intangible standpoint, a very good kind of kid to go

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<v Speaker 1>build around. Going forward. When you resume action, you'll be

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<v Speaker 1>hosting the New England Patriots. You had a waiver claim

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<v Speaker 1>from the Patriots and Darryl Roberts. Now here's a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who impressed the coaching staff at practice and now is

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<v Speaker 1>playing a critical role, especially over these last six games.

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<v Speaker 1>Marcus Williams out with the ankle sprain, and when you

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<v Speaker 1>guys go to sub, Darryl Roberts is playing outside for it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Daryl actually has done a very good job, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think people tend to forget, like you focus so much

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<v Speaker 1>on pro free agency in the offseason, you focus on

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<v Speaker 1>the draft, But there's two other avenues of acquiring players

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<v Speaker 1>that are are critical or you know to us. Um

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<v Speaker 1>one is, you know the college free agents, which we've

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<v Speaker 1>had some success with with you know, the two receivers

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<v Speaker 1>and actually, um, you know, there's a defensive linement named

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas also that did a nice job for us. But

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<v Speaker 1>the other part of it is when you get into

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<v Speaker 1>the season, you have the waiver wire or practice rosters

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<v Speaker 1>from other teams that you can go sign players from.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, Roberts is a player that we liked

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<v Speaker 1>in the preseason, um, you know, and he was a

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<v Speaker 1>little injury to thinking one of the games at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of it, but we liked him enough that we

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<v Speaker 1>claimed him, and um, he's coming into a very good

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<v Speaker 1>job for us. Not unlike uh to a degree, almost

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<v Speaker 1>when Marcus Williams was brought into this organization a few

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, he was a player that you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>actually had in Houston that was you know, waved off

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<v Speaker 1>our practice roster. The Jets sign him. He turned into

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<v Speaker 1>a good player for the Jets here, But Roberts is

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<v Speaker 1>of the same type of you know, those are where

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<v Speaker 1>you start moving ahead the you know, you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>build your talent base. When you when you can add

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<v Speaker 1>talent through those avenues, that actually gives you a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to be successful down the road. At the quarterback position,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a chance to see Bryce Petty, a fourth

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<v Speaker 1>round pick in your first draft, make us first start

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<v Speaker 1>against Dale Rams and then obviously Christian Hackenburg continues to

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<v Speaker 1>develop since we're not out of practice when these guys

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<v Speaker 1>are taken rops, can you talk about Hackenburgh and how

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<v Speaker 1>he's coming along? And also, was it fun for you

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<v Speaker 1>just to take a step back and and see Bryce

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<v Speaker 1>in action? Yeah, you know it's and and it's funny

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<v Speaker 1>when you watch when I watched Bryce the other day

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<v Speaker 1>and he and he did a pretty good job. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's for his first start ever, And that's a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>pretty aggressive front seven or defense. Those guys get after

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback pretty cularly. Steve been doing that this season

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<v Speaker 1>and I think our offensive lined a nice job and

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<v Speaker 1>Bryce did a nice job in that kind of environment. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's nice when you see when you think back

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<v Speaker 1>to when you know, as a GM, you probably think

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<v Speaker 1>back to the first few mini camps for the first

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<v Speaker 1>preseason games from a year ago, and Bryce was a

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<v Speaker 1>true rookie and then it's nice to see how much

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<v Speaker 1>he's progressed from there and now he still has a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more you know, he still has a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>potential to develop. Um, But it was a it was

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<v Speaker 1>a nice first start format. I think it's you know, again,

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<v Speaker 1>when we break down the tape, there's always nuances and

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<v Speaker 1>things from a coaching standpoint which he needs to do

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<v Speaker 1>better on and can do better on. But he he

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<v Speaker 1>did get off to a good start, which was nice.

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<v Speaker 1>And then with Christian, um, you know, he's a player

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<v Speaker 1>that we like quite a bit in terms of his

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<v Speaker 1>A billion potential, but of course, um, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>aspects of his playing needs improve upon, and we've been

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<v Speaker 1>happy with the progress he's made and at some point

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<v Speaker 1>in time we'll see if um, you know, how he

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<v Speaker 1>does on the field. But but he's done some good

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<v Speaker 1>things for us, you know, in the practice environment. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you know, unfortunately because of injuries, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>usually we had four quarterbacks. Then we you know, lost

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<v Speaker 1>Price for a period of time and then obviously Gino unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>but Christians getting more reps in practice, which is only

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<v Speaker 1>good for his potential in his development. Six games left

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<v Speaker 1>you as the GM, the football architect of the New

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<v Speaker 1>York Jets, are you excited to continue to watch these

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<v Speaker 1>guys as you tinker with the roster because that never ends,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, that's a daily thing that you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>You have staff throughout the country, even up in Canada

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<v Speaker 1>looking at guys. So the roster. I always laugh in

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<v Speaker 1>the summer when people say it's a final roster. Roster's

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<v Speaker 1>never find no, no, I think, I think what you um,

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<v Speaker 1>what you realize. In this business, it's a it's a

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<v Speaker 1>constant process trying to figure out ways to make the

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<v Speaker 1>team better. And we do that ourselves. UM. As I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned before, you know, we're we are disappointed with the record. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are some good things in in the organization

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of players and stuff like that that we

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<v Speaker 1>feel good about going forward. We definitely are you know,

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<v Speaker 1>have you know, focus on some of the young players

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<v Speaker 1>that have come in more recently. But it's a constant

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<v Speaker 1>process and you're you're constantly trying to figure out ways

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<v Speaker 1>not only too you know, acquire players, add more talented

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<v Speaker 1>players to roster, but also you know, look at ways

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<v Speaker 1>we can improve overall, and um so that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>been our focus. And again it really from the from

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<v Speaker 1>the end of July and this right before they started

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<v Speaker 1>training camp until the end of the draft. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a you know, kind of a nine month sprint. Thanks Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>I've enjoyed it. Thank you. Ch