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Speaker 1: Welcome to the It Girl Podcast. I'm here with liv

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Speaker 1: my friend Livey Duncan, the gorgeous, stunning Queen New York

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Speaker 1: it Girl. So I just want to talk to you

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Speaker 1: today about your fashion career and how you got your start.

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Speaker 1: Were you always just this super fashionable girlly?

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Speaker 2: I love you. I mean it's so funny.

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Speaker 3: I try and think back to when it all started

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Speaker 3: and when I got into it. I think I've always

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Speaker 3: had a true maybe personal style through and through, but

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Speaker 3: I mean it's changed over the years. I never thought

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Speaker 3: I was going to go into fashion or be in

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Speaker 3: the fashion industry. I wanted to. I wanted to go

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Speaker 3: into biotech after college, but like I graduated when COVID hit,

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Speaker 3: so I called every place I interned at and that

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Speaker 3: was all like fashion assays, so like do you need

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Speaker 3: part time?

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Speaker 2: Do you need anything? Like? I just need work, I

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Speaker 2: need to do something.

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Speaker 3: And I think that then in that world kind of

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Speaker 3: pushed me to get into it more. And then that

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Speaker 3: was like the rise of TikTok and stuff. So then

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Speaker 3: seeing other people and what they're wearing, it just like

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Speaker 3: made me want to kind of go and go out

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Speaker 3: of my comfort zone learn more about fashion again.

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Speaker 1: What was your first job in fashion?

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Speaker 2: I will job job first one. They all kind of mix.

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Speaker 3: I think the first one I was at was for

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Speaker 3: private designer kazy K, who did a lot of like

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Speaker 3: D two C custom clothing but really cool. And then

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Speaker 3: I was at Badging Mishika. I worked on the sales

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Speaker 3: team and marketing team for them, which was cool because

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Speaker 3: I interned for them. I did New York Fashion Week

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Speaker 3: with them, like back in the day. It's so crazy

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Speaker 3: to think about, like when you're applying to be a

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Speaker 3: volunteer during fashion Week and the madness of that on

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Speaker 3: that side versus now being on this side, us going

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Speaker 3: to shows, but also being in house doing it and

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Speaker 3: knowing these like interns are running around. It's just so crazy.

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Speaker 1: I always think that every time I go to a

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Speaker 1: New York Fashion Weeks show or event, I'm like, my

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Speaker 1: hardest with you, interns, the hardest with.

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Speaker 2: You, Like you're just getting yelled at, told what to do,

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Speaker 2: and you just are terrified.

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Speaker 3: You want to do the right thing, and I don't know,

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Speaker 3: I just remember being chaos.

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Speaker 1: No, it is pure chaos. So now you are a

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Speaker 1: creative consultant, will you break down for us like what

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Speaker 1: that means and just basically what that is and what

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Speaker 1: you do for brands.

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Speaker 3: Yes, after badgely working at Badgie Mishka, I went to

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Speaker 3: work for a startup called Rodeo.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember Rodeo Shot Rodeo. It was kind of

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Speaker 2: coming up.

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Speaker 1: I completely forgot that you worked there.

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Speaker 2: I reached out to you about it.

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Speaker 1: Yes we met because you worked there. I was, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I completely I thought we met through a girl, but no,

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Speaker 1: we met because you worked at Rodeo.

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Speaker 2: I completely and I was like probably blowing you up,

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Speaker 2: cold calling you and being like please handswer no, not

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Speaker 2: too crazy, Okay, you guys. So I was.

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Speaker 3: When I was working at Rodeo, I was doing the

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Speaker 3: creator outreach and brand outreach, and we were a small team.

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Speaker 3: It was a startup, so really it was like handsbur

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Speaker 3: in every bucket. We did editorial photo shoots. We connected

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Speaker 3: brands to creators in a way that today it's so

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Speaker 3: much easier. I feel like with Shot, Mine all these

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Speaker 3: other platforms, it's just like you're immediately connected. But then

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Speaker 3: we were kind of pitching brands really funky creative collaboration

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Speaker 3: ideas for or with different creators, and the creators weren't

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Speaker 3: like the influencers so to say, I hate using that word,

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Speaker 3: but interior designers travel agents, and it was just like

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Speaker 3: a funky it was almost like an agency, now that

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Speaker 3: I'm saying that out loud.

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Speaker 2: It was so random, but.

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Speaker 3: I kind of I spent the year with them and

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Speaker 3: then transitioned out because I was getting so many brands

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Speaker 3: calling me to help them come on for a project

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Speaker 3: and consult with them in some way, whether that was

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Speaker 3: or just building a community around them in like a

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Speaker 3: new way. So that is kind of how that started

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Speaker 3: and shifted. And now I'm just like a consulting but

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Speaker 3: I won't lie.

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Speaker 2: I love working with startups, so I keep that kind

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Speaker 3: My consulting is working with a lot of different startup

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Speaker 3: brands that are not centered even around fashion. So that's doing,

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Speaker 3: like I said, marketing strategy, just like new ways for

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Speaker 3: them to kind of get their ground and footing, especially

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Speaker 3: if they're a European brand or from somewhere else in

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Speaker 3: not New Ork. You for like, New York is such

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Speaker 3: a hard market to try and tap into. So now

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Speaker 3: it's kind of just like a crazy balancing thing of

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Speaker 3: like getting to do that and then getting to do

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Speaker 3: the creative stuff and editorials. But I love it because

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Speaker 3: I like having the business side of stuff. I kind

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Speaker 3: of miss that in terms of like corporate world.

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Speaker 1: So to say, when a brand hires you as a

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Speaker 1: creative consultant, what problem are they trying to solve? Is

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Speaker 1: it that breaking into the New York market? Is that

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Speaker 1: what you see is like the thing that people are

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Speaker 1: coming to you for.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sometimes, or I think the way I look at

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Speaker 3: it is there's always a creative element to it. For them,

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Speaker 3: it is truly like what do we even do if

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Speaker 3: we don't have any ad dollars they're about to spend

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Speaker 3: on marketing?

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Speaker 2: How do we approach that?

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Speaker 3: So I'll kind of build out like plan for them,

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Speaker 3: and then if I get to and I'm lucky, I

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Speaker 3: get to do the fun creative stuff like the editorials.

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Speaker 3: Or it's working with like John Hardy for example, who

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Speaker 3: I just shot a big thing with for Valentine's Say,

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Speaker 3: which was so fun and I have to say it's

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Speaker 3: probably my first campaign that I got to truly have

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Speaker 3: full creative direction on, which was amazing. But that's different

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Speaker 3: where someone will come be like, we have this product

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Speaker 3: give it to you.

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Speaker 2: You do full creative direction, go crazy. What do you

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Speaker 2: think is going to work?

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Speaker 3: And then obviously I have to do a little research

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Speaker 3: and look at stuff to be like, all right, what's trending,

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Speaker 3: what's going to happen, what's going to like grab the

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Speaker 2: So that's incredible that answer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's incredible. What do you think is the biggest

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Speaker 1: mistake that brands make creatively right now?

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Speaker 3: This is such a good question. It's like a big

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Speaker 3: thing that people are talking about.

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Speaker 1: It is a brand like it is really their marketing

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Speaker 1: is make or break right now in a crazy way.

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Speaker 1: It literally because everything is so available and it's on

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Speaker 1: our phones and it's on our Instagram and it's on

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Speaker 1: our TikTok, and it's like, if you're not reaching the

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Speaker 1: right people at the right time in the right way,

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Speaker 1: people are very tricked to cancel brands and totally done

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Speaker 1: with them or ignore them completely. Yeah, what issue do

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Speaker 1: you feel like you're just constantly cleaning up?

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Speaker 3: It's so hard because of trends like virality is such

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Speaker 3: a crazy thing because it's in a moment, But then

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Speaker 3: everyone else wants to jump on board and do the

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Speaker 3: same thing to get the results. But then I think

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Speaker 3: brands also lose that identity when they do so I

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Speaker 3: don't know mistakes. I think there are a lot of

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Speaker 3: mistakes you can make. I do love when brands do

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Speaker 3: fifteen times, digest it and figure out what I just saw.

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm extremely unimpressed by the trend following marketing campaigns.

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Speaker 1: When I see that on Instagram and I'm like, I've

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Speaker 1: seen six brands post this stupid thing to I'm literally like,

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Speaker 1: you have no balls. Yeah, this is not fashion, this

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Speaker 1: is not high fashion, this is not interesting, this is

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Speaker 1: not creative. It just yeah, I think it's really disappointing.

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Speaker 3: Like I kind of wish it'll be interesting to see

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Speaker 3: the shift in creative direction around brands, because where it

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Speaker 3: used to just be the creative director knew what the

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Speaker 3: campaigns were, knew the marketing efforts, they had their pulse

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Speaker 3: in touch on everything. Now, if we're handing it off

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Speaker 3: to people, it's going to be different. Like I'm so

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Speaker 3: curious to see like where that.

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Speaker 2: Changes over that.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like the brands used to tell us

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Speaker 1: what's cool, and now the internet tells the brands what's cool.

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Speaker 2: I have such a big thing. I have a huge

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Speaker 2: draft on my subject. It bothers me I need to talk.

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Speaker 1: About I'm like, I the creative director of the fashion

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Speaker 1: houses should be telling me what's cool. The girls on

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Speaker 1: silly TikTok should not be dictating they they try to

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Speaker 1: please the community in like an almost embarrassing way. You

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Speaker 1: are pandering. Yes, they pander to that audience in such

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Speaker 1: a way that it's like where's your creativity, where's your spirit?

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Speaker 1: Where's where's your differential? Like what is different about you?

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Speaker 1: So correct we're aligned on that well because it used

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Speaker 3: I feel like it's really tough to say these kind

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Speaker 3: of things because I think the old fashion industry had

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Speaker 3: so much toxicity within it. But when I say this,

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Speaker 3: I don't I'm not referring to that. I kind of

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Speaker 3: miss the og editors. Yeah, like the fashion category that

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Speaker 3: came with being an editor, because to your point, they

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Speaker 3: talked to the brands. The brands were telling us what

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Speaker 3: it was, but they were just making it in a

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Speaker 3: how to relay it that brands weren't doing.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: It's literally like we're giving a platform.

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Speaker 3: Not to say that no one should be posting their

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Speaker 3: personal style, but people take personal style and make it

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Speaker 3: into a bigger deal than it is.

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Speaker 2: And then it's like wait, and.

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Speaker 1: Then everything looked the same and everyone was complaining because

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Speaker 1: everything looked the same. And I was like, well, that's

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Speaker 1: my problem right now, I'm telling brands what to do,

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Speaker 1: so they're just all doing the same thing.

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Speaker 2: I want to shop, I don't know where to shop

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Speaker 2: because everything is everything is identifical, identical, but so much

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Speaker 2: money too that I'm like what, I'm not what?

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Speaker 1: They're all just the same. At what point do you

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Speaker 1: think a brand realized is that they need an outside

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Speaker 1: creative perspective And when do you think you come into play.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's a great that's a great question. Maybe if

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Speaker 3: your numbers, your views are down, analytics wise, do something

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Speaker 3: to shake it up.

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Speaker 2: It's it's I don't know. It's so hard because also

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Speaker 2: our attention.

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Speaker 1: Span hm hmmm.

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Speaker 2: Like I had this idea that there's like a.

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Speaker 3: Twenty four hour expiration on everything we consume. Whereas it

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Speaker 3: used to be like we'll talk about fashion week for days, weeks, months, whatever.

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Speaker 2: We're all like there's conversation around it.

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Speaker 1: The discussion over Couture Fashion Week was over in literally

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Speaker 1: a day or two.

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Speaker 3: I I yeah, and I was like, I'm not even

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Speaker 3: part of that conversation. I have not participating that, yeah, whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know if there's like a.

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Speaker 3: No, it's wearing your clothes, like obviously we both rewar

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Speaker 2: Also, like you're you want.

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Speaker 3: I believe, like the most successful people who are online,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope I'm not being too negative now negative

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Speaker 1: It's just it's I think it's important to talk about

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think is like your biggest qualm

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Speaker 2: Like just even the negativity of that. I don't want

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Speaker 3: We actually have a really good inner crew of girls

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they're There's like twenty five girls that are

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Speaker 3: M like we have each other's backs, yes, fun, We

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Speaker 1: I don't know that it was torture. I can't imagine

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Speaker 3: I think it happens everywhere that girls are like that,

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Speaker 2: Otherwise, Like, how do you not beat yourself up over it?

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Speaker 2: Okay, the first thing I'm going to say is to

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Speaker 2: But I think work hard, get the experience.

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Speaker 3: In turn, I tell everybody and like girls who DM

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Speaker 2: What do you want to do? You don't know.

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Speaker 3: You just want to work in fashion, internet, every company

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Speaker 3: under different things and figure out what it is because

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Speaker 3: Like clear, concise point of view, you will go further

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Speaker 3: in life with that. I also think, and this is

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Speaker 3: and it's like that's your footprint, that's your taste. So

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Speaker 2: No, that's great.

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Speaker 1: Which you taste is great? Great, really great advice because

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Speaker 2: What do you think we search it?

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Speaker 1: Oh? I love it. I love it. It brings me

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Speaker 2: I need to follow yours. I didn't know you did good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. No, I really love it. I

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Speaker 1: but it's the thing I love the most. I just

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Speaker 1: It's literally like if you subscribe, you get that newsletter,

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Speaker 2: Know, it's not like the same type of stuff you

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Speaker 2: would get into you because on.

444
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Speaker 1: Instagram and TikTok, you're kind of forced to make the

445
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Speaker 1: same like it's a day. If you don't make what trend,

446
00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't go anywhere. So it's like everyone's making the

447
00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:04,760
Speaker 1: same thing. You think all these people are exactly same.

448
00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,280
Speaker 1: Then you go on subsecond you're like, wait, WHOA, No,

449
00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,960
Speaker 1: she actually is a poet or writes these beautiful essays. Well,

450
00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,080
Speaker 1: like she's a really strong point of view at or like, whoa,

451
00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,000
Speaker 1: she really knows what she's talking about she's like very

452
00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,920
Speaker 1: well read. And when it comes to fashion, yeah, so

453
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Speaker 1: that I love it, I think. And I just like

454
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Speaker 1: giving women a space to write. I think it's like amazing.

455
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Speaker 1: We don't really have that. It's like, yes, where else

456
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Speaker 1: are we going to do that?

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm. It's not happening on Instagram right now. No,

458
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Speaker 2: it's not.

459
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Speaker 1: Happening on it. You can't like if you write some

460
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Speaker 1: big paragraph on Instagram, no one's going to read it totally.

461
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Speaker 1: So I really like that. I am a I love subsets.

462
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Speaker 3: I need to get into it more. I told you

463
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Speaker 3: I have so many drafts about these things, but you're

464
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Speaker 3: actually published. I know you're making me think I should

465
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Speaker 3: do it.

466
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Speaker 1: Look for it and they find you, and there's just

467
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Speaker 1: like no negativity because your base, a lot of it

468
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Speaker 1: is paid to paid content. No one's paying for content

469
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Speaker 1: they don't want to see. No one is paying to

470
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Speaker 1: follow a creator. They don't want to hear what they

471
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Speaker 1: have to say. So it's and not to say like,

472
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Speaker 1: oh it's a bunch of like sick of fants, but

473
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Speaker 1: it's like they want to be there. So when I've

474
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Speaker 1: I'm sure you have had this million times people on

475
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Speaker 1: your TikTok answering going, why is my FYP showing me this?

476
00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:07,480
Speaker 1: Who is this chick? I don't want to see this,

477
00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,760
Speaker 1: like who are you and why are you on my page?

478
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, I didn't as I'm asked to

479
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,440
Speaker 1: be put in front of you. But on substack they're

480
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 1: asking to have your yes and people are the One

481
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Speaker 1: thing I get the most DM wise is like, can

482
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Speaker 1: you link this on subset? Can you write a substuck

483
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Speaker 1: about this? Will you do a substec about this? Where

484
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Speaker 1: does all those outfits from? Can you link them? And

485
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Speaker 1: I'm like, dang, you guys are really like you want it,

486
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Speaker 1: You're on it. Somebody on Instagram really gives that much

487
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Speaker 1: of a shit if I give them the links, Like

488
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Speaker 1: people in subsec will you write an article about this?

489
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Speaker 1: Can you tell me everything that? Like I did a

490
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Speaker 1: thing this morning, what's in my everything? In my makeup bag?

491
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Speaker 1: It was heavily asked for and I was like, that's amazing,

492
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Speaker 1: I really care what's in my makeup? I sure, I'll

493
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Speaker 1: write you an article about what's in my makeup bag?

494
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Speaker 1: Like they want it yea, And that is really really refreshing,

495
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,960
Speaker 1: as opposed to some algorithm like feeding it forcing you

496
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Speaker 1: to watch it.

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Speaker 3: Wait, that's so interesting, do you think? So you don't

498
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Speaker 3: get it in your dms like people asking you about

499
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Speaker 3: all your sad.

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Speaker 1: Not not, I mean yes, but like the substack, the mote,

501
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 1: they want to read it awesome, they want more, they

502
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Speaker 1: want to like and they love like ketchups on like

503
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Speaker 1: new releases. Because I'm sure you, like myself, are always shopping,

504
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,399
Speaker 1: always looking at what's new, always looking at what brands

505
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Speaker 1: are doing. I try, I should be better like I

506
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Speaker 1: am windows shopping at all times, just like you know

507
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Speaker 1: what's I just want to know what's going on.

508
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to know what.

509
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Speaker 1: The designs are. I want to know what people are wearing.

510
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Speaker 1: I want to know what they're putting out. I want

511
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Speaker 1: to know the ads that they're using or I'm interested

512
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Speaker 1: in that the creative side of it too, what's their

513
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 1: strategy everything? And so people like when you kind of

514
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Speaker 1: round that up for them.

515
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Speaker 2: Because when people do it for me, not ever hours.

516
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Speaker 1: To scroll on the internet, I do. So you know

517
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Speaker 1: what's round.

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Speaker 3: I'm scrolling like I scroll my TikTok right now, TikTok's

519
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 3: messed up. I don't know what that's going on my

520
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 3: feed is like people slipping on ice. I haven't seen

521
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Speaker 3: fashion on my feed in a minute.

522
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Speaker 1: Really, mine is literally just like girls making tea in

523
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Speaker 1: the morning at success, like trying to like I'm trying

524
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 1: to make myself have a good morning routine. So mine's

525
00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:00,200
Speaker 1: literally just like peaceful music and girls in yoga pants.

526
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:01,400
Speaker 1: Literally all my TikTok gets.

527
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Speaker 2: I literally I talk it on my phone. I'm like,

528
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Speaker 2: please give me an interior design inspiration.

529
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Speaker 1: That's another thing that choose on substack. The interior design

530
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Speaker 1: on substack is incredible, and there are incredible interior designers

531
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Speaker 1: who have substacks that will like find you the most

532
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Speaker 1: beautifully curated pieces.

533
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Speaker 2: You need to send me all these people.

534
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Speaker 1: It's very element substack is very elevated. That's what I

535
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Speaker 1: like about it. It's hard, sophisticated and elevated. Yeah, it's

536
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 1: maybe to publish it is very like word pressy, Yeah

537
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Speaker 1: it is. But once you kind of get it, I'm

538
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Speaker 1: telling you some community you are will build on there,

539
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 1: like it really will suck you in. I am I

540
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Speaker 1: am always on substacks strong.

541
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Speaker 2: See, That's how it was when I first got on it.

542
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 3: But my stuff is photos and visuals, Like I don't

543
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Speaker 3: I need to get on that side of it.

544
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Speaker 2: There's who is it?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm gonna send her you But there

546
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Speaker 1: is a girl, like you said, honing in on your taste.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember her page right now, but her entire

548
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Speaker 1: she's one of the most popular substackers there is. And

549
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Speaker 1: her entire thing it's like a folder every month, I

550
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Speaker 1: want to say, and you click it and then it's

551
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Speaker 1: just like every image that has inspired her, and like

552
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Speaker 1: they're just reference photos from the nineties and like incredible

553
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 1: interior design that you wouldn't see. It's like it's like

554
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Speaker 1: a magazine almost, like and it's just photos. She doesn't

555
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Speaker 1: write anything, but it's just it's just elevated and sophisticated.

556
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Speaker 1: And you're like, Okay, this is what like the upper

557
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Speaker 1: echelon of people are looking at and wanting it. No,

558
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Speaker 1: I have to I cannot remember her name right now,

559
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Speaker 1: but I will send it to you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

561
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Speaker 1: She I am like, God, you have such good taste.

562
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Speaker 1: It's like Tumblr, but for the sheakst person you've ever

563
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Speaker 1: seen in your life. Okay, love, And she's one of

564
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Speaker 1: the top ones. And it's just because people want to

565
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Speaker 1: know what she's looking at love, so I will send

566
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Speaker 1: her here.

567
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Speaker 2: Wait that's it.

568
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Speaker 1: Sorry, you're going to subtect here.

569
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Speaker 3: No, yeah, but that's interesting because like right now I'm like, oh,

570
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Speaker 3: that's what dog ears is my substack.

571
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Speaker 2: It's just photos. I've never done writing.

572
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Speaker 1: This is the thing.

573
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Speaker 3: But this is maybe a good piece of advice. You

574
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Speaker 3: could do the same thing somebody else. Don't give up, Like, yeah, but.

575
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Speaker 1: I do think you should write, if you have drafts,

576
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Speaker 1: if you have something to say, I do think you

577
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Speaker 1: should publish it because people really will say and you

578
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 1: can write.

579
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Speaker 2: Maybe say and people will read it. Maybe I'll publish

580
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Speaker 2: it after this comes out.

581
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Speaker 3: Yes is the beginning, Yes, please call points topics.

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Speaker 1: You said that taste is your currency. How did you

583
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: convert your taste into something that drives revenue for you?

584
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Speaker 2: Ooh.

585
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Speaker 3: I have always been a stickler about what I like.

586
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Speaker 2: Like what I will do and what I will not do.

587
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Speaker 3: I think in the beginning, you know, quitting the job,

588
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Speaker 3: the startup os that and doing this, it was like

589
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Speaker 3: I'll take anything I can get, I'll try and do

590
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 3: anything and see what sticks. But I think staying true

591
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Speaker 3: to who you are and like the deals you do

592
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Speaker 3: and the things you put out. Kind of going back

593
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Speaker 3: to I said before, it's very apparent when you're doing

594
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 3: something that is in aligned with who you are or

595
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 3: your style, and it's just like, okay, this is a matter,

596
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 3: this is something that doesn't make sense. So I think

597
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Speaker 3: staying true to yourself your like I, and that may

598
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 3: come with saying no to deals even though there's good money.

599
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 3: Like I didn't always do that obviously, in between jobs,

600
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 3: I didn't.

601
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Speaker 2: Really stay true to that.

602
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 3: I took anything I could because I needed to make money.

603
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 3: I couldn't afford to live in the city. It was chaos.

604
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 3: But now I'm very strict on that. I think keeping

605
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Speaker 3: and making your footprint. I just think saying true to

606
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 3: you will help convert to revenue later, Like it doesn't

607
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 3: happen right away, And it's still weird because sometimes I'll

608
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 3: try out stuff and I'm sure you've done stuff, and

609
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 3: you're like, wait, this isn't really catching on, or like

610
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 3: that's something I really want to do, but there isn't

611
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Speaker 3: always a way to relate that or change that into revenue.

612
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Speaker 2: So that's incredibly fair.

613
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Speaker 1: What are some ways that you hone your eye and

614
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Speaker 1: your chase.

615
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Speaker 3: My mood boared like crazy. I'm on Pinterest. Oh my god,

616
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Speaker 3: I go want it more than I go on Instagram

617
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Speaker 3: me too, Like.

618
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Speaker 1: Everyone would think like Instagram's.

619
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Speaker 2: I don't care about it.

620
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 3: I like sharing the things I like and projects I

621
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 3: work on, and like trying to catch up with my friends.

622
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Speaker 3: But Instagram doesn't even give me my friends on my

623
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Speaker 3: feet anyways, so I'm not going on No.

624
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Speaker 1: Pinteress is like the gold standard.

625
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 2: It's the best. But I also love buying magazines.

626
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 3: I love flipping through old prints and getting my mood

627
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 3: boards from there, and then physically making mood boards in

628
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 3: my apartment. It's like everything I do. I look at

629
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 3: Pinterests every day before I get dressed too.

630
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Speaker 2: Oh.

631
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 3: I love to think about, like what do I want

632
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 3: to do? Do I want to try something new with a

633
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 3: styaling trick? Do I want to do this that?

634
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 2: Like I have a whole.

635
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 3: Board on Pinterest right now for designs that I want

636
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 3: to create, like a little line I want to do

637
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Speaker 3: like things that I love.

638
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Speaker 1: Going to ask you if you wanted to make your

639
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Speaker 1: own line. That's my next question is would you ever

640
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 1: want to start your own brand?

641
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Speaker 2: One hundred percent I do.

642
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 3: Some of the consulting I do is design consulting for

643
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 3: companies or brands, but I would love to have something

644
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Speaker 3: of my own one day. I'm actually I don't know

645
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,479
Speaker 3: if I can share this. I'm doing a little summer

646
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 3: speak things into Oh, which I'm very excited about because

647
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 3: I love bikinis, I love the summer, I love being

648
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 3: out East. It's very mod talk focused, so I'm excited

649
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 3: for that. But I would love to do a brand.

650
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 3: I just don't know what I look like like right now.

651
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 3: I would love to have a pattern maker or find

652
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 3: someone who could produce small quantity, a few styles and

653
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 3: just kind of see where it goes. But when I

654
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 3: tell you, I cut my clothes every day. I've done

655
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 3: it since I was a little girl. My mom's like,

656
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 3: you cut and ruin everything. So I got to try

657
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 3: and make it into something else. But I don't how

658
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 3: to sew, so I need to learn to do that.

659
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Speaker 1: But I love that. It's giving Brat's movie.

660
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Speaker 2: It's chaos. I'm like pinning stuff. My mom's like, you

661
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 2: can see the pin I'm like, but.

662
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: If I put a bow on it, like, the more

663
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: I can throw off chaos. Chaos, I feel like that's

664
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 1: just inherent to being a creative. Though It's like you're

665
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: always I'm not super creative, but I feel like you

666
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: guys are always just ripping things apart and cutting things up.

667
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 3: My best friends, ruining stuff. I realized all my carpets

668
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 3: with paint when I was doing.

669
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: Painting things, and yes, and my gen things and turning

670
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: things into things that weren't playing. Yeah, and I'm like, wait,

671
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: did that have grommets on it last time I saw you?

672
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, I feel like that's I would love to

673
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 1: see your brand. So you want to sweak that into existence?

674
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 2: You want to have a brand on day one day.

675
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: I love that. I'm maybe everythinking like co tour or

676
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: like I ready to wear I mean.

677
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 3: Dial ready to wear, Oh, like I was thinking about

678
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 3: it all started because of I mean, Scapareley is one

679
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 3: of my favorite brands of all time.

680
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: You're you're scapareally coded for sure.

681
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 3: But I like, I want to wear that funky stuff

682
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 3: to dinner with friends, Like I want the silhouettes.

683
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: And things like that. But I can't afford that either.

684
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 2: So that's one thing.

685
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: I mean, no one can, No one can, But like

686
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: I love the style their stars and the crazy structure.

687
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's like that perfect mix of art, fashion

688
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 3: and in terrors, which like for me, if I were

689
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 3: to actually make a brand, I think it would have

690
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 3: to be some type of multi dimensional house that includes art,

691
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 3: fashion and lifestylear interiors, because I love interior design. I

692
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 3: don't really ever tell anybody that I'm an artist and

693
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 3: I have that whole side of things.

694
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: But Cynthia Rally has furniture and it's unbelievable. What yes, exactly, exactly, Yes,

695
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: she does furniture and it's phenomenal. I think it's better

696
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: than the clothes.

697
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 2: What I have to No, it's phenomenal. I need furniture.

698
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: Her whole story is decorated in her own.

699
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 2: I was just gonna ask, is that so cute? Girl?

700
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: You said you're an artist, you love interiors, you have

701
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: all these things. I feel like that all plays into

702
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: your personal style because it's it's bold and experimental and

703
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: you go there and you do things that other girls

704
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: aren't doing, which is what I love about your style.

705
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: How would you describe your personal style in three words?

706
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 3: Does one of those questions that I actually have written

707
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 3: in my notes, or like when someone's like who's your

708
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 3: ideal dinner party guests.

709
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: I think about this all the time because it's so hard.

710
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 3: I think there is a masculine element to it, with

711
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 3: like suiting, tailoring, the baggie always in a trouser.

712
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: I die for a trouser. I want to be in

713
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: a pant.

714
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 2: Always, always. It's so much more comfortable than it's.

715
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: Really trying to put me in dresses for events and

716
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, I want to pant. Thank you, Yeah, unless

717
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: the dress is like a very specific look. Uh uh No,

718
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: I want to pant. It's straw.

719
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 2: I always want to pant, and like a blazer but

720
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 2: down like showy boobs, a little yeah moment, but like

721
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 2: pant always comfortable.

722
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 3: Maybe I like I cannot If I'm uncomfortable, I make

723
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 3: it everybody's problem. Like I dress for comfort every time

724
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 3: I get dressed, So maybe comfort ease.

725
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: I don't know.

726
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: It's so hard to say, because.

727
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: Like, where are you shopping? Where are the places you

728
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: like to shop? Are you a big vintage girl? I'm

729
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: getting into it.

730
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 3: I've always loved finding that random piece. It's always happened randomly.

731
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 3: I never like sought out going to store trying to

732
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 3: do the vegiting. Every time I do, I don't find anything.

733
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 3: But I think that that's also huge trend right now

734
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 3: of mixing the vintage and modern stuff together. Maybe that

735
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 3: goes back to a point of everyone's doing the same

736
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 3: thing that we need.

737
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like vintage is now like not

738
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: even a little overdone. Yeah, it's like everyone's the all vintage. Yeah,

739
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: no it's But I think a lot of the old

740
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: silhouettes too. For me, are is my style? Like I'm

741
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: either in it like I'm saying a trouser, a baggy

742
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: pant and some low wait, low neck something up here,

743
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: or I'm in a Maxi dress like I live in

744
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: a Maxi dress and a slip silk dress.

745
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: So for vintage, I love it. Let me think of

746
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: one other world?

747
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: Are there like go to spots in New York that

748
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: you love for shopping.

749
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 3: I used to keep this this is when I need

750
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 3: like phone a friend and called Maggie Clamscow because she

751
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 3: would go every Friday to a new spot and find

752
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 3: these stores and like hole in the walls.

753
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: She better read an article about this. I need to know.

754
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: She used to post them on her stories, and.

755
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: I can find places to go that I can never

756
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: I'm at the same place as every other chicks at

757
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: like I'm the basic bitch in line with the same people.

758
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, this is what you guys

759
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: said was cool.

760
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's kind of how I feel.

761
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 3: Or I'm online shopping, yeah, I haven't chopped since so long, though,

762
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 3: Like I don't know the close spots in the city.

763
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 3: I know that there is this woman who I did

764
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 3: gate keep forever, who I got all my vintage slip

765
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 3: dresses from, who is Lower east Side.

766
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 2: It's aw coffmin Okay, wow. She is like I don't

767
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 2: even know I explain this. It's almost I don't want

768
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 2: to say she's a hoarder. But there are a thousand

769
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: poly bag dresses and you go in there and she's

770
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 2: like all these bins of like kristind you or Teddy's

771
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: like little bra and anddie sets that are so cute

772
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 2: and they're like thirty five dollars.

773
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: So it's amazing and a good today, good gift to

774
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: give somebody. Wow.

775
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 2: But then you tell her like what you look or

776
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: wanting what you're looking for, like a I'm always like

777
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: I want to lace dress, this this blah blah blah.

778
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 3: She literally like this, she like patterns to like like colors,

779
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 3: and she like pulls out She's like yes, no, like

780
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 3: she doesn't let me touch it.

781
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 2: She just like goes through it all and then it's

782
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 2: amazing pieces. Oh my gosh, a good movie.

783
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: No, that's a fantastic New York shout out. And she

784
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: sounds like anick girl herself. She's we love a hoarding creative,

785
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: a girl that's awesome, that's iconic. Yeah, I love that, Okay,

786
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: love her. I will be going there immediately. Do you

787
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: feel like your style has changed as your career has changed.

788
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 3: Only in the sense I can maybe afford more expensive

789
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 3: pieces nowadays.

790
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 2: I felt that girly, But otherwise now I think I've

791
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: kind of.

792
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: Stuck to your personal Yeah.

793
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:17,479
Speaker 3: I think there's always an element of my core style

794
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 3: in an outfit, Like if I'm doing something different.

795
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: Is there a style you'll never wear no matter how

796
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: trendy it is? Like? Is there some never never wear

797
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: no goes for you?

798
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: Yes? What are those boots like the like hoob.

799
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: Margella, the tabbies.

800
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 3: Yes, I can't do it. I don't like the look

801
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 3: on me. I think other people rocket that's like a

802
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 3: hot take. No one has said no. One likes when

803
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 3: I say that.

804
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 2: I don't like that. I don't like crocs. Yeah, you'll

805
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 2: never catch me in a crock. The tabby is that.

806
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: Someone asked me the other day. She was like, what

807
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: what is your take on? Like what do you feel?

808
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: Do I do it? Do I not do it? And

809
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: I was like, look, I think if you do it,

810
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: you're the coolest girl ever. Like you are a fashion girl.

811
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: You are going there, you are bold. Do you get

812
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: in it? It? Jella like your ass. But if you

813
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: think they're ugly, you're also right, Like I'm like you're

814
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, you'll be high fashion. But I'm like, do

815
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: I think anyone is going to get it? If you're

816
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: not in like New York or Paris or London or

817
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: something like, No, I'm gonna get it. You're on the way.

818
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: She's dressed like you. She lives in California, And I

819
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: was like, not in main like LA. Even in LA,

820
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: I think that's pushing it because I feel like they're

821
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: very like basic. Yeah, everyone's looks the same. So I

822
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: was like, in California, do I think anyone's gonna appreciate it?

823
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: Or like it. No, But do I think you'll be

824
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: such a bad ass for wearing them?

825
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: Yes?

826
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: Yes, but they are like dress for you, Yeah, dress

827
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: for your thing. I'm like, I don't do it, But

828
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: when I see a girl in it, I'm like, that

829
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: girl is confident and that girl knows herself and I

830
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: love that d So yeah, I'm with you, and I'm like,

831
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: I get it.

832
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 2: But no, yeah, I'm saying I don't know. They just

833
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 2: like I can't get on that track.

834
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,479
Speaker 1: Is there anything twenty twenty six trending wise with style

835
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: that you're just absolutely loving, Like these weird A just

836
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: gonna say the Napoleon Napoleon military jacket jacket that's my

837
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: favorite trend of twenty me too, because I've always loved it.

838
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 3: I literally have jackets from my mom from twenty years

839
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 3: ago that I've just kept and I love them.

840
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: I can't find them now, which is driving me crazy.

841
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 2: But I love the look. I'm so here for it.

842
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 2: I feel like it's kind of with boho trend sheet

843
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 2: that's going on, but within Boho intro right now is

844
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 2: having I think could come back. I'm loving everything they're doing, obviously, Chloe.

845
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 2: Everyone's on the clothes.

846
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: Has always been incredible, and I feel so underrated. It's

847
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 1: so so underrating.

848
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 3: I feel like I just talked to you about this

849
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 3: the other day, but it wasn't you. Someone else said

850
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 3: that so underrated. They don't get enough press or coverage.

851
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 2: They've always remained, they've always kept their brand image when

852
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 2: they've never ventured off based on trends and stuff, but

853
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 2: they just kind of didn't get the same reporting or coverage.

854
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: I feel like over the last few years, if you.

855
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: Find an etropiece and a vendage short literally doesn't matter

856
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: where it's from, it's not only stunning, but it looks

857
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 1: exactly like what they're making right.

858
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: Now, correct exactly and it's different and it's expensive, but

859
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: it's well made.

860
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,439
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Metro girl for.

861
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 3: Life, loving it like vintage, Like we're saying vintages back.

862
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 3: I think vintage watches. I don't know if that's just

863
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 3: very niche and what I'm going down a rabbit hole on,

864
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 3: but vintage watches, yeahs are gonna be cool. Bit I

865
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 3: feel like big bags are going to be a thing,

866
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 3: or they are a thing. Everyone's carrying the Hobo's back.

867
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 3: Thank god, I.

868
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 2: Want that freaking Botega Hobo.

869
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: The big Bige mask, I want it so bad. And

870
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: that Gucci Oneman that's swayed Gucci one. Oh my god,

871
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: that's my dream bag. Gorgeous, it's insane.

872
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 2: The one that they have the fur into, which I

873
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 2: don't know if it comes in fur.

874
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: But I believe in it was in the show. I

875
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: bet it's phenomenal, so good. I love a big bag.

876
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: I'm not a bag girl. I never have a bag.

877
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: I will give my phone to anybody in a place.

878
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: If you are carrying a mini bag, you're not a

879
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: working woman. You cannot tell me you don't need to

880
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: carry stuff all day. I'm like, I have shit I

881
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: got to take with me. Yes, I'm going to work,

882
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: and then if I'm going out, I'm just going to

883
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: change my shoes. I gotta change my outfit. It's like

884
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: I got all these things I need. I have a

885
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: folder in my purse at all times, and I'm.

886
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 2: Like, I need a big bag, need a toe, Yes,

887
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: I just grab it towards toe, but I'm here for

888
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 2: if it's coming back big like Selene that yeah bag,

889
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 2: that's yes, he on it. Morgan Stewart posted it and I.

890
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: Was like, girl, she's on it. She's so good, she

891
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: is really on it. I think it's because she can

892
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: just afford things that no one else can. So it's

893
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: not even like.

894
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 2: But she has taste.

895
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: She does have taste, but it's like she's buying the

896
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: twelve thousand dollar jacket. I'm my god, I didn't even

897
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,479
Speaker 1: know they made that. Yeah, I've never seen that. Nobody offers.

898
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: She's getting the thing that you're like, Oh my god,

899
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that existed in this world.

900
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 2: Totally, and I love it. She's so good.

901
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 3: Trying to think there's any other things. I'm kind of

902
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 3: over the belts, the craziness of belts.

903
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I like a sleek.

904
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: Like a sleek one belt.

905
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like a like a cape moss all black,

906
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: a little tiny skinny belt ninety supermodel live. That's more

907
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: me than the big chunky belt, yes, or like triple

908
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: belt that everyone's doing.

909
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 2: That's what I mean, Like, I can't, I need we

910
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 2: need to.

911
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm also just not. I'm a maximalist in

912
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 1: some ways, but I'm not a maximalist in the like success,

913
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: I want a jingle jingle, jingle, jingle, and then my

914
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: neck is jingling on my arms are jing belts on.

915
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: And I have a skirt on top of a skirt

916
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: that's just not.

917
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 2: Me personally, same not me.

918
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 3: Although I usually this, like the first time I haven't

919
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 3: had a crazy stack on those jingle a little.

920
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 2: But it's a certain girl, yeah, I think, And it's

921
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: cool but not free. I think it's I think it's

922
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 2: making its way out. Actually with that too. The last

923
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: thing last in I will say is suiting. Yes, I'm

924
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 2: so here for it, but I think we keep seeing

925
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: all these runway shows with all the women wearing suiting,

926
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 2: especially y s l love and ties, so I'm like

927
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: bringing on, Yeah, no, I'm I want.

928
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: Everybody at the Wiesel beauty party the other night was

929
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: wearing a suit or like a tie, which is very

930
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: why I sell. But I also was like yes to

931
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: women dressed like yeah, I love this, Like I really

932
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: like I love the tie trend, or we would.

933
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 3: Look sick in one of those like the full the boxy,

934
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 3: the shoulder and lighten like the due bearing.

935
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: War ViBe's she's into a suit, Oh yeah she is.

936
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: She always has a tie on it. I love that.

937
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, you have your own show. You should be

938
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 1: wearing a suit and tie. Yes, like duh okay, last question,

939
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: so no, I love it. Who do you think is

940
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: the ultimately girl and why does she inspire you?

941
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 2: Bailey?

942
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 3: Since you started You're serious, I'm not even kidding. Since

943
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 3: the first video you put out, I have asked myself

944
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 3: this question.

945
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 2: Maybe once we love like Roman Empire.

946
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: And it can be five people. It doesn't have to

947
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: be a celebrity, just know it can be whatever you want.

948
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 3: Definitely a culmination. I think it's do you know the

949
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 3: Attico girls?

950
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 2: Yes?

951
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 1: And Georgia, who is incredible, Yes, love my gosh, one

952
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: of my favorite brands.

953
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 3: If I could take those two and Laurie and Marcy Hirschlaver,

954
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 3: that is probably Jingle totally, the queens of the Queen

955
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 3: of Stacking and Jingling. They are so rad and I

956
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 3: feel like those two are those four like put together

957
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 3: is probably a mix of everything I like to wear

958
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 3: in that look. But then Ralf Lauren as a whole,

959
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 3: not like one specific but just that vibe.

960
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: Ralf Lauren is a nick girl.

961
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 2: Let it be known so, and right now they're like

962
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 2: popping off. I get inspo all the time, though, like

963
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 2: and it's mine, doesn't usually come from people. It comes

964
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 2: from the art and interiors. But like a Zoe Kravitz moment.

965
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: She no one ever says her, and I'm like, where's

966
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: the love for Zoe Kravitz. Her style is beyond.

967
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 2: But it's as a stylist.

968
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Which then I'm like, Who's I gotta figure out

969
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 3: who the stylist is. She's Rad Miley Cyrus love the

970
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 3: latex white tank top chanel like Rad Rad. So it's

971
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 3: a mex I would say those right now.

972
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: Ultra cool girls though.

973
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you like the ultra cool girl, and like I

974
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 2: like a point of view or like laid down, laid

975
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: back cash. But like when Zoe Kravitz is walking around

976
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,959
Speaker 2: in her little like Adida shorts in a little click

977
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: clack shoe like rad.

978
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: I loved her T shirt Adidas short high heel up.

979
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: I love it save And she's just like in her

980
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 1: ballet flats, walking around looking like the coolest girl alone.

981
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: And I feel like it's it's an attitude and an

982
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: energy that's that itck girl energy of like, yes, I'm

983
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 1: wearing a T shirt, jeans and ballet flats, but I'm

984
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 1: the coolest girl in this room.

985
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like the white tank top theory.

986
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, perfect. I'm actually almost worried to I'm all

987
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: about the white tank top. I'm in a white tank

988
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: top daily because I'm like, just cool.

989
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 2: It's cool, it's cool, and you know it's.

990
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: Gonna wear matches, everything goes with everything.

991
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm sabulous.

992
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: Get us our white tank top immediately. Ladies, you need

993
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: five thousand of them. Okay, thank you so much. It

994
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: was such a pleasure having you. Can you tell everyone

995
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: where they can find you on social media?

996
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, Livvy Duncan on Instagram, Livvy R. Duncan on TikTok,

997
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 3: and dog Ears on substack.

998
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: Your substack is going to have a real This is

999
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Speaker 1: kind of the.

1000
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 2: Substack and I kind of get home and start writing.

1001
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: I can't wait to read it and published and we

1002
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Speaker 1: are or I am at Bailey t Taylor and at

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Speaker 1: A Girl the series on Instagram. Stay tuned next week

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Speaker 1: for another A Girl. Thank you girl,