Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Brother two Times. So, guys,
Speaker 1: if you don't know who my brother is, this is Mikey.
Speaker 1: This is my little big brother. Okay, thank you for
Speaker 1: coming to my podcast. Finally, Yes, but you make.
Speaker 2: It seem like I didn't want to be part of it.
Speaker 2: And then when I was on Jenica's you're like all jelly.
Speaker 3: Belly, jelly belly, but your requested subject is very important. Yes,
Speaker 3: but I wasn't. He wasn't. I'm still not ready. I guess.
Speaker 2: I think we'll talk about my reasoning behind all that
Speaker 2: stuff today. But because I don't, I know you love me.
Speaker 2: I know if we're, if we're, if we got pickles
Speaker 2: with each other, that's abone to pick with each other.
Speaker 1: A pickle with me?
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the pickle? This sign? Oh okay, it's cute. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm sure they got to here quick. I'm Jenica.
Speaker 1: She waited a year, but yes, so talking about Jenica
Speaker 1: because okay, guys, Jenica has been on the podcast, Jackie
Speaker 1: has been on the podcast, and Mikey has it. John
Speaker 1: has been here a couple of times as well, and
Speaker 1: talking about Jenica. Look at his sweater, you guys, okay,
Speaker 1: it's over comfort.
Speaker 3: Look at him.
Speaker 1: He comes to my podcast wearing his favorite sisters because
Speaker 1: Jennica is his favorite sister. Yes or no, don't lie.
Speaker 3: I don't have a favorite. She's my only little sister.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's true. He has two big sisters. That makes sense.
Speaker 3: That's okay.
Speaker 1: Jennica is awesome, so.
Speaker 3: She's a best But yeah, and then this is also
Speaker 3: I wanted to come like decent, and.
Speaker 1: I know it was very hand separately.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is like everything else has paint on it
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 1: The color coordination.
Speaker 3: I like laundry every week now though.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm so proud. So are you separating the whites? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I don't have very much white okay, okay, but
Speaker 1: please separate the whites.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I do.
Speaker 2: I separate and I even I even, I like, I've
Speaker 2: started to use the bleach. But like you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm a black shirt kind of guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah you are.
Speaker 3: I don't for white shirts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I always have paint on everything. Talking about paint,
Speaker 1: because we got to let them know what you're all about. Okay.
Speaker 1: Mikey has his own own company.
Speaker 2: It's called Boss Graphics and my bigger LLC or is
Speaker 2: a moonlight sign code? And that's that was my first
Speaker 2: company and absorbed the company that I've been working at
Speaker 2: for a while now, and it's going really well. It's
Speaker 2: been this past year has been a big challenge, and
Speaker 2: thank you for being there.
Speaker 3: You're always I think.
Speaker 2: There's no such thing as a dumb question, but there
Speaker 2: is dumb questions. And I'm so glad that I can
Speaker 2: call you and I don't ever have to feel like
Speaker 2: bad about asking a stupid question because you've lived through
Speaker 2: most things, or at least have some level of experience,
Speaker 2: especially when it comes to business. So I have you
Speaker 2: as a lifeline, and I know, like we don't see
Speaker 2: each other as much as we'd like. Yeah, you're such
Speaker 2: a big part of you know, what I'm doing now,
Speaker 2: and so thank.
Speaker 1: You for that. Oh you're welcome, brother. Oh my god, dude,
Speaker 1: we're about I think we're going to cry about it.
Speaker 3: We do. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So a mirror list and a sign painter and and
Speaker 2: just a guy just trying to get better at his art.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're doing great, because that's what he was saying.
Speaker 1: The pickle that he had to pick with me is
Speaker 1: the fact that he didn't make my sign. I didn't
Speaker 1: ask him to make my sign because he made Jennica
Speaker 1: sign for her podcast over Comfort, and that's why he's like,
Speaker 1: what the heck, But it's for METSI. I mean, I
Speaker 1: didn't have anyone else do it.
Speaker 2: No, you're about this, and I would have lagged a
Speaker 2: little bit, but it's okay. I have ideas now, so
Speaker 2: next season that might look a little different.
Speaker 1: Oh I love that. Okay, you guys heard it here,
Speaker 1: so you guys he said it. Yes, he's a man
Speaker 1: of his word and going back to his business because
Speaker 1: I think Mom would be very proud, because Mom was
Speaker 1: all about, like, whatever you're passionate about, whatever that may be,
Speaker 1: you freaking do it and you do be the best
Speaker 1: at it, Mikey, And he said, Okay, if we talk
Speaker 1: about this about your love for graffiti and how you
Speaker 1: would do it illegally, whatever, you want to talk to me, okay,
Speaker 1: Because he would freaking stress me out. Because I was
Speaker 1: his supporter, I was like, Okay, if this is what
Speaker 1: he likes to do, I don't necessarily agree hundred percent
Speaker 1: because it's like, you know, he's doing this illegally and
Speaker 1: he would hang you guys off of bridges and shit
Speaker 1: doing graffiti and I'd be like, oh my, he said,
Speaker 1: Oh I was hanging off.
Speaker 2: That freaking BRIDGEI what But you would imagine it like
Speaker 2: me hanging off I'm not that strong.
Speaker 3: It's like there's a footing, there's it's a weird space.
Speaker 3: I shouldn't be okay there, but it's dangerous. Are you
Speaker 3: going to tell everybody that used to take me?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, I used to take them.
Speaker 3: Was a handful of times.
Speaker 2: Jackie was my was my ride or jack like she
Speaker 2: took me bombing a lot, like, yeah, my first era
Speaker 2: of being prolific had a lot to do with Jackie.
Speaker 1: But you take me to Jackie, so.
Speaker 3: Each other she is implicated in fifteen year old crime.
Speaker 3: Oh shit, more than that, dude, come up on. Wow, yeah,
Speaker 3: my brother, are you thirty you're gonna be thirty three? Jesus?
Speaker 1: Oh your Jesus here, I say, dan full for really. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're going to resurrect in good way?
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, being reborn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, reborn. But so I love the fact that you
Speaker 1: did exactly what I wanted, came and became and now
Speaker 1: a business and you're a CEO and a business owner.
Speaker 1: And I know that that's president. President I don't know why.
Speaker 2: I feel like he was like anytime somebody like starts
Speaker 2: their little like T shirt company or whatever, it's like
Speaker 2: they want to throw like president sounds better for me.
Speaker 3: I don't know why.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that anyway, Mike you for president? Well
Speaker 1: he is a president, okay, So I think.
Speaker 3: She would be proud. I think.
Speaker 2: So that's kind of like my biggest like thing is
Speaker 2: she didn't really get to see a better version of me,
Speaker 2: because I'm still not like the best version of myself
Speaker 2: that I can be and that I'm striving to be.
Speaker 2: But she didn't get to see me like okay because
Speaker 2: it stressed her out a lot too, you know. And
Speaker 2: and she and like to her credit, she never once
Speaker 2: said like I remember the day that she like first
Speaker 2: confronted me about it, and like, you know, like she
Speaker 2: was never like don't do that, you know, like they
Speaker 2: were like, at least don't do it this way, do
Speaker 2: it the right way. Of course, I have to do
Speaker 2: it in my own way. But so she was stressed out,
Speaker 2: and I didn't believe I was going to turn it
Speaker 2: into anything for a long time because that wasn't really
Speaker 2: the point of it. Yeah, it was kind of more
Speaker 2: of a to develop a sense of identity, and yeah,
Speaker 2: that's kind of it's kind of it's it's led through
Speaker 2: a lot of things, for good or bad, like of
Speaker 2: who I am now, and it's been part of my journey.
Speaker 2: So I'm like super grateful for it, but I think
Speaker 2: I I might be past it, yeah, like mentally, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean right now anyways, just like I don't like
Speaker 2: I don't have the same love for it. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm okay, I'm going through a part of my life
Speaker 2: where things are you know, it's okay to accept the
Speaker 2: things come to an end and things don't have to
Speaker 2: be the same way forever. And even if it's something
Speaker 2: that you feel like, well, this is all I've ever known,
Speaker 2: like and that shit, it's really hard, Like I almost
Speaker 2: want to cry right now, just because it's all I've
Speaker 2: known and like for so many years.
Speaker 3: I've part of your life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've only associated with certain type of people, and
Speaker 2: now that I'm trying to live my life on the
Speaker 2: right path, I realized they haven't always been the best people.
Speaker 2: A lot of you know, a lot of my friends
Speaker 2: are guys looking with good and there's a few gems
Speaker 2: in there. That are really guys that are really pushing
Speaker 2: themselves forward. But for the most part, it's like holding
Speaker 2: me back. And now I'm at a point where it's
Speaker 2: like it's it's it's it's doue or die time right
Speaker 2: now with you know, with the company and like really better.
Speaker 3: In myself, super focused and if.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it is just not serving me anymore, and
Speaker 2: it's it's hard to say, you know, because I don't
Speaker 2: you know me, I'm like, uh, I like the artistic
Speaker 2: part of graffiti, like, oh, it's an awesome mural, look
Speaker 2: at all the colors and all that. But I like
Speaker 2: the illegal aspect of it in the Russia and the
Speaker 2: fucking being scared shitless, like I shouldn't be doing this.
Speaker 2: I shouldn't be fucking over here off of the side
Speaker 2: of the freeway. And then I get home and I'm
Speaker 2: looking at my pictures and that's the best sleep in
Speaker 2: my whole life, where it's.
Speaker 3: Crazy like that rushful. Yeah. And it's not just because
Speaker 3: of that.
Speaker 2: There's just like I don't know if there's something to
Speaker 2: take in public space back, Like I feel like we're
Speaker 2: kind of bombarded with like buy this by this billboards
Speaker 2: and signage and all this shit every everywhere. It's like, okay,
Speaker 2: and because of you. I would never write on businesses
Speaker 2: like small businesses or like people's property or anything like that.
Speaker 3: But if it's.
Speaker 2: Corporate, if it's on the side of the freeway, it's
Speaker 2: it's like a little power box or something, whatever the
Speaker 2: hell it is. It's like that's visually that's mine too,
Speaker 2: you know, Like that's how I used to feel. I
Speaker 2: don't necessarily I've grown up a little bit and it's
Speaker 2: like that's not really how the world works.
Speaker 1: But that's what I was tell them. If you're going
Speaker 1: to do it, just do it like where it's like
Speaker 1: it's not going to like disturb anybody or upset anyone. Well,
Speaker 1: it have upset certain people, but whatever, I mean, I
Speaker 1: definitely I supported you and it made you happy. I
Speaker 1: would pray for you all the time. I'm like, God,
Speaker 1: please take care of them. And I get that rush
Speaker 1: thing because when I used to sneak out to go
Speaker 1: to the races over there in Compton, it was just like, dude,
Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to do this, but this is so fun.
Speaker 3: It's more brazen about sneaking out of me. Dude. I
Speaker 3: would never like hop out of the taking mom's car. Dude,
Speaker 3: I was crazy.
Speaker 1: We got to talk about that one day. I did.
Speaker 3: And then did you try to drive backwards to reverse
Speaker 3: the mileage?
Speaker 1: Yes, stupid dude.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all yes I did. Sure, it's all good. It's
Speaker 4: all good because I must have been like sixteen years old.
Speaker 4: I didn't have my license yet. Fifteen, Yeah, I was younger. No,
Speaker 4: for sure, I did not have my license.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was very risk take her to the fullest,
Speaker 1: d especially with the type of mom we had. I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: what the hell was I thinking?
Speaker 3: No, for real, and like.
Speaker 1: We I don't even think she knew later until yeah,
Speaker 1: I think she.
Speaker 2: I think you did say it, and I'm pretty sure
Speaker 2: we had the conversation at some point and at that
Speaker 2: point she's just.
Speaker 1: Like like, well, yeah, okay, yeah, you know, yeah it's
Speaker 1: crazy dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Anyways, Well, I'm I think what's happening in your life,
Speaker 1: and I see it clearly is that, like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: you're being very and I love using this word you
Speaker 1: on the podcast, but you're very intentional right now. It's
Speaker 1: like you know, it's like I want to be the
Speaker 1: best I want to be the best person. I want
Speaker 1: like you're doing things with intent and I see it.
Speaker 2: And I've always you know, me and my whole life,
Speaker 2: I've been very nonchalant. Yeah, and it's kind of worked
Speaker 2: for me. Like yeah, it's like, I mean, I've never
Speaker 2: been a guy with the plan, and I've never been
Speaker 2: like I need this to happen in the world for
Speaker 2: me to be Okay. I think I've always been a journey,
Speaker 2: not the destination. Yes, And I'm still very much enjoying
Speaker 2: my journey, even on days when it's not fun, even
Speaker 2: on days when I'm really stressed out and you know,
Speaker 2: like I'm responsible for people's lives, like you know, like
Speaker 2: and their family and they're they're and feeding their kids
Speaker 2: and stuff and that, so that all rays on me.
Speaker 2: So but even on those days, I'm like, I appreciate it,
Speaker 2: like you know what, because it's like I get to
Speaker 2: when I do make payroll, you know, and we do,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, But when we do make payroll, that.
Speaker 3: Shit feels good when it goes through.
Speaker 2: And like when I know I have work plan like planned,
Speaker 2: it's like I'm putting my people on.
Speaker 3: And so I'm so proud of you, dude. I forgot
Speaker 3: what the no. But I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you because I'm listening to I hear
Speaker 1: you speak and I'm just like, I've always You've always
Speaker 1: been such an intelligent boy having to fight.
Speaker 2: It properly, and it's like, just imagine what I could
Speaker 2: do that. That was the point where it's just like
Speaker 2: I haven't ever really had a plan. It's like the
Speaker 2: Joker says in the Batman movie, and just like a
Speaker 2: dog chasing cars and like if I ever caught a car,
Speaker 2: I not know what to do with it. But like
Speaker 2: now it's just like and it's worked out well, But
Speaker 2: I can't keep testing my luck because I have a
Speaker 2: lot of it has to do with them and it's
Speaker 2: twenty because I'm not I'm.
Speaker 3: The least like that of all you guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe in that heavy that mom in one
Speaker 2: way or another, is it looks out for me and
Speaker 2: she's you know, pushing positions to succeed or she's saved
Speaker 2: my ass and when I put myself in dumb situations
Speaker 2: and I'm like.
Speaker 1: I really believe that. I feel like she has saved
Speaker 1: your ass a lot.
Speaker 2: And that luck is only going to run out for
Speaker 2: so long, and it's like, Okay, it's time to have
Speaker 2: a plan now, and it's time to want more and
Speaker 2: like see what you can do then, Like you know,
Speaker 2: it's like I feel like, despite myself, I've been able
Speaker 2: to make something in myself and now it's like, what
Speaker 2: can happen if I stop getting in.
Speaker 3: My own way? You know, like nice's due because no.
Speaker 1: Can't nobody hold you back, but you yeah, absolutely absolutely,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm telling you, I freaking love my siblings.
Speaker 1: I always learn from them, and I'm just like I
Speaker 1: love listening to them. I love to listen to you
Speaker 1: guys speak because you guys are fucking like we dropping
Speaker 1: like little like nuggets, which is those little gems like
Speaker 1: today what you're saying about, Prince. I was listening Prince
Speaker 1: all morningful because you know me too this morn in
Speaker 1: the group.
Speaker 5: Child, I was just like, hell, yeah, I'm glad we
Speaker 5: have that like too, because there was like a lot
Speaker 5: of people that I find it so weird when people
Speaker 5: are like, oh, I don't talk to my sister or
Speaker 5: like you know, or we don't really have a relationship
Speaker 5: or we didn't really grow up close, and that's so
Speaker 5: now that I'm older, I try.
Speaker 2: Not to judge because everybody's raised differently, and everybody goes
Speaker 2: through their own journeys, and people perceive other people's actions differently,
Speaker 2: so I can't be like, always forgive your siblings. But
Speaker 2: I'm so glad that I'm like I'm over here on
Speaker 2: my well, I.
Speaker 3: Think it was before my bike ride.
Speaker 2: I was getting ready and I was like, I was,
Speaker 2: you know, just flipping through YouTube and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: that sounds interesting and like there was like some really
Speaker 2: good stuff in them. And I was like, and I'm
Speaker 2: glad I can, like I have someone to send that to.
Speaker 2: And then we all had a conversation about it was great.
Speaker 3: We even we're good at that. We talked about Purple
Speaker 3: Rain and you know that's your prince.
Speaker 1: Is my father, you know, because I don't know if
Speaker 1: I've shared this before, I'm pretty sure I have. But
Speaker 1: I was conceived in a Monta Carlo at the drive in,
Speaker 1: like the movie drive in Thinkies or whatever. Listened to
Speaker 1: my mom. I guess you always told me this that
Speaker 1: she was They were listening to Purple Rain, so I
Speaker 1: was called Prince mat Patherno. So we were talking about that.
Speaker 1: We were having all this dialogue. It was really awesome.
Speaker 1: And I've shared with you guys that are that.
Speaker 3: You were born from pre come, so pre come.
Speaker 1: According to my mother, I knew that wait till the
Speaker 1: city never finished.
Speaker 3: At way too young of an age.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm you know, powerful, Hey, but wait, I
Speaker 1: don't know, because then I know Dad is my dad
Speaker 1: and my biological father father because what we have the
Speaker 1: same father obviously, but anyways, because I look just like him, right,
Speaker 1: But I.
Speaker 3: Don't know where I heard this.
Speaker 1: I do look like Dad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm barely coming to grips that we look like
Speaker 2: like that we look and now I'm like, oh, I
Speaker 2: see mom now in my face, I'm like, shit, that's weird,
Speaker 2: or even see like some of.
Speaker 3: My uncles, you for sure more these days, like.
Speaker 2: Ones that we don't one that we don't speak to.
Speaker 2: So it's like I'm like, I see it like you
Speaker 2: do in like the rear view mirror. I this in
Speaker 2: the bridge in my nose. I'm like, oh shit, that's weird.
Speaker 1: But yeah, honestly it's handsome father.
Speaker 3: My father, your father. I'm weirried about that word.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know, I know, But how do
Speaker 1: you feel about dad now talking about that, are you
Speaker 1: like more open to talking to him or you're like.
Speaker 3: Nah, I'm good.
Speaker 2: Actually, this is something that I did do when we
Speaker 2: were talking about, oh well, what should we talk about?
Speaker 2: And I luckily Mom sent me to that school when
Speaker 2: I was seventeen or sixteen, to the boarding school, and
Speaker 2: that was we thought I was going away so I
Speaker 2: can catch up in school. And that was the last
Speaker 2: of their words, like we did everything on the computer
Speaker 2: homeschooling program on the computer, but we did do seminars
Speaker 2: and we did daily therapy and so eight months.
Speaker 3: It was pretty much eight months.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And in that school I had to deal
Speaker 2: with And that's when when I came back, I started
Speaker 2: going by the name because I was like I hated
Speaker 2: Do you remember how angry I used to walk around
Speaker 2: for that guy, Like how mad I was all the time.
Speaker 1: Well, we were going through court for the whole trial thing.
Speaker 1: Mikey actually got a little physical with my dad.
Speaker 3: Yeah a lot.
Speaker 2: I think that's one of the things people bring up
Speaker 2: from the show a lot there, like did you really
Speaker 2: beat him up?
Speaker 3: I beat him up. I punched him once and they
Speaker 3: got socked up by my other uncles.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, by his family.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but and it was a whole rumble, but it.
Speaker 1: Was pretty crazy, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know, And that was genuine like anger. That was
Speaker 2: like my only chance that I ever and I don't
Speaker 2: regret that at all. Actually, Like it was like Mom
Speaker 2: was mad because she was like, you need to be
Speaker 2: representing me better and show that I raised a man
Speaker 2: with self control. Yeah, and I didn't have it in
Speaker 2: that moment, but I were young, but yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: and I just needed to get that out. But you
Speaker 2: have anyways that because even you would tell me where
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, I would I would speak badly
Speaker 2: about him because of the anger that I internalized my
Speaker 2: whole childhood. And you would be like, and I would
Speaker 2: think there was something wrong with you. You're like, you
Speaker 2: don't need to speak like that about him, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: and I thought that they're you know, I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I was like, whatever, that's just Cheeky's being Cheeky's. But
Speaker 2: then when I went to that school in Mexico we had,
Speaker 2: I was forced to deal with it, and it's just
Speaker 2: like really like genuinely like be like, all right, I
Speaker 2: don't have to walk around with this forever, like he's
Speaker 2: a human. He fucking made mistakes and he still needs
Speaker 2: to out, you know, to to he's he still needs
Speaker 2: to accept it or not or whatever. But whatever that is,
Speaker 2: that's on his own time for me, for my sake,
Speaker 2: for the sake because the people around me, for the
Speaker 2: sake of my children, I need.
Speaker 3: To let that go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and see the silver lining that like whatever he
Speaker 2: was as a dad, like and he wasn't there and
Speaker 2: so I don't have that example. But I don't have
Speaker 2: a clean slate. I don't have all these we have
Speaker 2: generational things that you know, go on, but like as
Speaker 2: far as dad, like, I don't got to hold onto that,
Speaker 2: you know, and that doesn't have to be how I
Speaker 2: carry myself with my kids and stuff. And so I
Speaker 2: do when I say, I'm genuinely like no longer mad
Speaker 2: at him and like no longer upset that I have
Speaker 2: the same name. Like that's that that was a huge
Speaker 2: thing for me. And like I feel like like I've
Speaker 2: been told where it's like no, you just think you're
Speaker 2: healed from it. You need to continue And it's like
Speaker 2: that irks me.
Speaker 3: It's like how can I like it? I mean you
Speaker 3: tell me, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like I like genuinely do not hate the guy. But
Speaker 2: when Jackie says, oh, he'd like to talk to him,
Speaker 2: like I don't, it's.
Speaker 3: A closed door.
Speaker 1: That's something that you need to do.
Speaker 2: Just there's there's so many doors ahead of me and
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not thinking about this one over here
Speaker 2: on the right, and I don't need to see what's
Speaker 2: on the other side of that.
Speaker 1: It's okay, And.
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, it sucks because it's hard, and
Speaker 3: I think about Johnny in this sense a lot where
Speaker 3: it's just like growing up without a man. It fucking
Speaker 3: makes being a man a lot harder. We like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you still got to do it. I got to do it.
Speaker 3: And it's so either what am I going to do?
Speaker 3: Reopen this door and like you know, or just that
Speaker 3: makes sense.
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, because for a long time you were upset,
Speaker 1: and which is why your name is Mikey. Why we
Speaker 1: call you Mikey because he didn't want to be called Trinidad.
Speaker 3: I would like to clarify that. I like you guys.
Speaker 3: People call me Mikey because.
Speaker 2: They hear the Okay, they saw the reality show and
Speaker 2: like I'm with my family.
Speaker 3: I like that one.
Speaker 2: Now it's growing on me, like, you know, amongst you guys,
Speaker 2: I am Mikey, but now like as a grown ass
Speaker 2: man Mike.
Speaker 3: You know, I think that people have this thing where.
Speaker 2: They see it's kind of as like still the age
Speaker 2: that we were back then.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel like, I don't know, it's not
Speaker 1: Mike anymore.
Speaker 3: It's Mikey, it's m ighk.
Speaker 2: It's not technically on my on my anywhere, it's that
Speaker 2: was my name one day.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so okay, so that's why his name is.
Speaker 1: That's what we call Why did okay? I always thought
Speaker 1: Mom told me that it was because of Michael Jordan,
Speaker 1: but in reality is it was because of the Ninja Turtle.
Speaker 3: Yes, but because he chose his name.
Speaker 2: That's I didn't know the I suppressed a lot till
Speaker 2: I was like seven years old, pretty much.
Speaker 3: When dad was gone.
Speaker 2: I thought it was normal that people's memories don't start
Speaker 2: like till then, Like, but people, I know, I talked
Speaker 2: to people and they remember being babies. Edward, our old producer,
Speaker 2: said this, swear to god, he remembers being born Like
Speaker 2: that's crazy, which I don't think that's necessarily true. But
Speaker 2: my ship doesn't start so all out with seven, and
Speaker 2: then like I didn't know, Like remember when I got
Speaker 2: in When I became a teenager, I got really into
Speaker 2: basketball again and it's been my favorite sword ever since.
Speaker 2: I thought that that happened because I got close with Red,
Speaker 2: but I'd always had that love. I didn't know I
Speaker 2: played when I was younger. Yeah, I did, so it
Speaker 2: could have been because of that, but it's part of
Speaker 2: a memory that I suppressed and pushed back. That's what
Speaker 2: I'm interested in. I'll be down to do like hypnotism
Speaker 2: and just see what.
Speaker 1: To see what happened.
Speaker 3: I don't know, dude. That's because I don't know. I
Speaker 3: might have to do dad, or I don't really know,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: Because at first it was Max, yeah, because of the dog.
Speaker 1: Because of the dog. We had a dog named rock
Speaker 1: Roller named Max. So he was like, I want to
Speaker 1: be I want my name to be maximm was like, okay,
Speaker 1: you don't want your name to be Trindad.
Speaker 3: We won't call you Trinidad. What do you want?
Speaker 1: I want Max? And then after it was Michael.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and now the dog beat me or something.
Speaker 2: I was like, fuck Max, but yeah, yeah, but Mike.
Speaker 2: For me, what I associated with is is Michaelangelo the
Speaker 2: Ninja Turtle.
Speaker 3: And I didn't know, like love that. I don't know
Speaker 3: at the.
Speaker 2: Time that they were all named after Renaissance artists. Like
Speaker 2: I just thought he was cool. He's always cracking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was like the funny one, hating.
Speaker 2: Pizza and riding a skateboard and like kicking ass, Like
Speaker 2: that's what I want to be. And I'm like, so, yeah,
Speaker 2: there's people think that, so Michael Jordan and it kick.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I was like, I didn't even know my
Speaker 2: middle name was Angela my whole life. Yeah, it just
Speaker 2: happened to just happened to work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's perfect. See Michael angel I love. That's my
Speaker 1: favorite Ninja turtle. By the way, now that we're on
Speaker 1: this topic, let's talk a little bit about your last name.
Speaker 1: Our last name. I carry Marine. I never really wanted
Speaker 1: to change it. We've never really talked about this because
Speaker 1: it's a big thing, the whole Rivera thing, and like
Speaker 1: how I don't use Cheeky's Rivera And that's not because
Speaker 1: it's like I hate the last name. Obviously, I want
Speaker 1: to honor my mother, but I feel that there's other
Speaker 1: ways that I can honor her than to like change
Speaker 1: my last name or use the last name or not
Speaker 1: use it. But mom did, and she did ask us
Speaker 1: before she passed, maybe like a year or two years,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Okay, she she had kind of like
Speaker 1: mentioned that why don't you guys change your last name?
Speaker 1: Why don't you guys change it to Rivera? And I remember,
Speaker 1: even when she was here, I would tell her, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I like my last name. Mo, I'm like, no matter
Speaker 1: what my dad did, like, I like Marine and I
Speaker 1: don't necessarily want to be a Rivera. But how do
Speaker 1: you feel because now you're going to change your last
Speaker 1: name legally.
Speaker 3: Right, I think?
Speaker 2: And with you, it's kind of like it's like like
Speaker 2: I said, with Thrin Dad, it's it's like owning it.
Speaker 2: It's like that's, yeah, whatever is before this point doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: That's your last name, you know. Yeah, and not for
Speaker 2: much longer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, true, true.
Speaker 2: But but I mean so I understand that. I think
Speaker 2: it's different because we're you know, I you know, I'm
Speaker 2: a male, so I carry I give on. You know,
Speaker 2: it's true the last name. And it's like, okay, Luna
Speaker 2: already has Marine, and when it came with the second baby,
Speaker 2: it's like do I want to is that the name
Speaker 2: I want to push? It was like no, Like I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm my mom's child and I'm carrying on her name
Speaker 2: and like.
Speaker 3: Whatever attached to it.
Speaker 2: Because even if you think about it, like there are
Speaker 2: people that will say, oh, they're not actually Rivera's whatever.
Speaker 2: They it's a name, who cares, you know, But even
Speaker 2: like even if it's like not being even if it's
Speaker 2: attached from the certain group of people.
Speaker 3: Now like that was detected. We never knew any of
Speaker 3: the Riveras in in cho you know, none of us
Speaker 3: know them. We know that we don't like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's grandpa's name and that's fine, and like,
Speaker 2: you know, the mom's carried on his legacy, but I'm
Speaker 2: carrying on my mother's and in my own way.
Speaker 3: And it makes sense.
Speaker 1: You know, we've never talked about this, by the way,
Speaker 1: this is the first time retection.
Speaker 3: It was kind of I think we were at odds
Speaker 3: and we're like, we're not having this conversation.
Speaker 1: We're kind of like, hold up because there was a
Speaker 1: lot going on. But now that you're explaining to me,
Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense. Absolutely, You're you're the man,
Speaker 1: and like you're honoring your mother and you want so
Speaker 1: are you changing Luna's last name too?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And she's actually she wants her name to be hyphenated,
Speaker 2: so she wants her she wants her mom's last name. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And she even shows the order or whatever. It's Rivera,
Speaker 2: I Bara. I was like, like, phonetically bar Rivera sounds better.
Speaker 2: She's like, no, I want it like that, Dad, Okay. So,
Speaker 2: and she's super excited about it because she she's in
Speaker 2: her like her fan stage right now.
Speaker 3: She's been for a long time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like listening to mom's music and everything. She
Speaker 1: listens to my music.
Speaker 2: She's like, I want to meet I want to meet
Speaker 2: my my uncle Lupe. And I'm like, what that's so random,
Speaker 2: like just because like, I mean, nothing against my deal,
Speaker 2: but we just haven't you know, he's been out his
Speaker 2: way for a long time. You know, we had we
Speaker 2: were at odds. I think when I was younger because
Speaker 2: of how I viewed things. Yeah, so I mean and
Speaker 2: I against him, but it was yeah, I don't care
Speaker 2: like that, but I just you know, it's it's just
Speaker 2: like it's when she did it, when she asked me
Speaker 2: out of nowhere, I'm just like, okay, like why might
Speaker 2: Luca of all of them?
Speaker 1: But you know that little girl has a total mind
Speaker 1: of her own. And I love that you and her
Speaker 1: mom like you guys, You guys embraced that, like you
Speaker 1: allow her to be here, like like show her individuality.
Speaker 1: And I love that because instead of you getting upset
Speaker 1: because there's certain things that Luna is his oldest daughter, guys,
Speaker 1: and he has a little baby, he has two girls,
Speaker 1: and you're and we'll talk about you being a dad.
Speaker 1: But you sent a video in the group chat of
Speaker 1: her or I think you posted it on Instagram of
Speaker 1: her talking about what her future husband was going to
Speaker 1: look like Oh yeah, dude, and you were just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: tell me, And she was telling you what that she
Speaker 1: wanted him tall, dark and hands, yeah yeah, And she
Speaker 1: said she wanted tattoos and jet black hair.
Speaker 3: Yeah. She's always but she's always known who she is.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Remember really early on, I stopped choosing her clothes for her,
Speaker 3: like yeah, and you just let her.
Speaker 2: She's like, she wasn't happy in the little T shirts
Speaker 2: and little jeggings I was picking for her, and she
Speaker 2: wanted to wear this ridiculous, fucking trolls wig and like
Speaker 2: a shirt a skirt and like two different socks because
Speaker 2: they had different colors, and.
Speaker 3: Like, you know, like I love it. And I of.
Speaker 2: Course, like most guys that you know, when you find
Speaker 2: out you're having a baby so soon and you know
Speaker 2: it's gonna he's gonna do all the things that I
Speaker 2: like and doing. Fuck that Luna came out. She's like, no,
Speaker 2: I'm a girl. I don't know nothing about this, but
Speaker 2: you better learn. I still can't do her hair, but
Speaker 2: thank god, she's like she's just.
Speaker 1: Like she's like, I like my hair down and I
Speaker 1: don't don't don't touch what she's getting.
Speaker 2: Back into styles and oh yeah, she's always known who
Speaker 2: she is. And I'm like, and I just loved seeing
Speaker 2: that it's come out because she was nonverbal till she
Speaker 2: was four, and like, yeah, so even on days where
Speaker 2: she's just like bombarding me like with questions and just
Speaker 2: talking to me and being goofy, right now, she's in
Speaker 2: her you know. I I I was like, damn, is
Speaker 2: there something wrong with me? Because she's a lot to
Speaker 2: handle right now. Sometimes but it's like I was remember
Speaker 2: how annoying I was at like fucking at like eleven
Speaker 2: years old. She just wants to be funny, and like
Speaker 2: she's learning how to make jokes, and you know, she
Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily know how jokes work, and so it's a
Speaker 2: lot and sometimes it's not sensical, and I don't know
Speaker 2: what to say. But I'm like, that's a lot better
Speaker 2: than me when I was eleven purposely trying to get
Speaker 2: on people's nerves and yeah, being a little bitch, dude,
Speaker 2: Like I'm sorry, I don't know for a lot.
Speaker 1: Of Yeah, you can say bitch and and all that.
Speaker 2: But like, you know, like, and so right now she's
Speaker 2: in that phase. And so even in moments where I'm
Speaker 2: a little overwhelmed, I'm like, dude, this is way better
Speaker 2: than I thought she was gonna be non verbal her
Speaker 2: whole life.
Speaker 3: I have no reason, yeah to.
Speaker 1: Believe she's thriving right now. Yeah, and she talks about
Speaker 1: and she's so smart and has an amazing memory like
Speaker 1: her grandmother.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think she's gonna be okay.
Speaker 2: And like, my biggest thing is, uh, is you know,
Speaker 2: just anything that she wants to do, whether it's she
Speaker 2: wants to go away for college, she wants her own apartment,
Speaker 2: she wants.
Speaker 3: A purple Honda.
Speaker 2: She so she knows she wants to, you know, be
Speaker 2: a nail tech, she wants to do hair, she wants
Speaker 2: to be an actress, a singer, and who are we
Speaker 2: to say that she can't do all these things? R
Speaker 2: you know, like obviously I just want to let her
Speaker 2: explore things. And obviously me and her mom have always
Speaker 2: been very guarded guarded over her as far as you know,
Speaker 2: So I don't necessarily want her making a TikTok right
Speaker 2: now or open YouTube page. But do I want her to,
Speaker 2: like if we get her in the studio so she
Speaker 2: could record something that would be like the best, you know.
Speaker 1: Like I think she wants to express herself because she
Speaker 1: writes so and she writes things, and I think that
Speaker 1: you guys, I love that. I love how you and
Speaker 1: her mom have like just embraced it and let her
Speaker 1: just be, which I think is awesome. And I was
Speaker 1: talking about you as a parent. I remember specifically when
Speaker 1: I one time I will tell you like, you're so
Speaker 1: I'm so proud of you. I'm so proud of you
Speaker 1: for the dad that you are, and You're like, what
Speaker 1: I'm just doing, like what I'm supposed to do, you know,
Speaker 1: and I and when you said that to me, I
Speaker 1: was like, shit, I guess so, but I guess I
Speaker 1: was saying more of like I'm proud of you because
Speaker 1: you weren't you didn't have your dad in your life,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like he was absent, and
Speaker 1: the fact that it's just you're just such a great dad.
Speaker 3: Like I try. I mean, I really are.
Speaker 2: I think I'm overly critical in myself and everything, but
Speaker 2: that's the only way I know how to operate. So
Speaker 2: it's like I take everything with the grain of salt.
Speaker 2: And then a lot of times I just feel like
Speaker 2: because so many it was more common for my friends
Speaker 2: growing up to not have their dad around. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: you know, like yeah, and I didn't, you know, I
Speaker 2: didn't think it was like it was kind of weird
Speaker 2: that when I would go to my wife friend's Houston,
Speaker 2: Narca and they had a full family or whatever.
Speaker 3: It was cool. I was like, oh shit, like this
Speaker 3: is same.
Speaker 2: But most of my friends didn't have their dads growing up,
Speaker 2: and like I think we all like that's we thought
Speaker 2: that that was a normal thing. Yeah, and some of us,
Speaker 2: some of us are like, you know, not not us,
Speaker 2: because I don't associate with dudes that, you know, like
Speaker 2: if you have your kids and you're a bump ass,
Speaker 2: you know you're not you don't spend I can't get
Speaker 2: enough time with Luna, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 2: you know, so we actually take pride of that in
Speaker 2: our generation, or you're the type of person like, oh,
Speaker 2: I didn't have adet, so I don't have to be
Speaker 2: around it, and I can't.
Speaker 3: I can't.
Speaker 2: That can never be an excuse. And it's I think
Speaker 2: a lot of people you get props for just being
Speaker 2: around and for me that's not enough either, Like that's
Speaker 2: you know, it's not just like yeah, well no, most
Speaker 2: people's dads aren't around, so good job for just being there,
Speaker 2: you know. And I try not to like pat myself
Speaker 2: on the back for that too much because.
Speaker 1: I just be like, I'm a provider and I get
Speaker 1: you what you need.
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, like there's.
Speaker 2: Way more to being a parent, you know, like than that.
Speaker 2: And with Nova, it's a it's a second chance to
Speaker 2: start again.
Speaker 1: Okay, guys, wait, we're running a little bit out of time, well,
Speaker 1: well run out of time, so we're just gonna leave
Speaker 1: the second part of our conversation for tomorrow, So tune
Speaker 1: in tomorrow because we're gonna, you know, talk about a
Speaker 1: little bit more.
Speaker 3: Well, Mikey, come out of the closet. Who knows tuning
Speaker 3: in in.
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