WEBVTT - Brotherly Love with Mike Rivera Part 1

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Brother two Times. So, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't know who my brother is, this is Mikey.

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<v Speaker 1>This is my little big brother. Okay, thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>coming to my podcast. Finally, Yes, but you make.

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<v Speaker 2>It seem like I didn't want to be part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when I was on Jenica's you're like all jelly.

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<v Speaker 3>Belly, jelly belly, but your requested subject is very important. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>but I wasn't. He wasn't. I'm still not ready. I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we'll talk about my reasoning behind all that

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<v Speaker 2>stuff today. But because I don't, I know you love me.

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<v Speaker 2>I know if we're, if we're, if we got pickles

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<v Speaker 2>with each other, that's abone to pick with each other.

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<v Speaker 1>A pickle with me?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what's the pickle? This sign? Oh okay, it's cute. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure they got to here quick. I'm Jenica.

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<v Speaker 1>She waited a year, but yes, so talking about Jenica

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<v Speaker 1>because okay, guys, Jenica has been on the podcast, Jackie

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<v Speaker 1>has been on the podcast, and Mikey has it. John

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<v Speaker 1>has been here a couple of times as well, and

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Jenica. Look at his sweater, you guys, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's over comfort.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at him.

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<v Speaker 1>He comes to my podcast wearing his favorite sisters because

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<v Speaker 1>Jennica is his favorite sister. Yes or no, don't lie.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have a favorite. She's my only little sister.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's true. He has two big sisters. That makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>That's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Jennica is awesome, so.

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<v Speaker 3>She's a best But yeah, and then this is also

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to come like decent, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it was very hand separately.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is like everything else has paint on it

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<v Speaker 3>right now.

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<v Speaker 1>The color coordination.

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<v Speaker 3>I like laundry every week now though.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I'm so proud. So are you separating the whites? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't have very much white okay, okay, but

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<v Speaker 1>please separate the whites.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I separate and I even I even, I like, I've

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<v Speaker 2>started to use the bleach. But like you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a black shirt kind of guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you are.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't for white shirts.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I always have paint on everything. Talking about paint,

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<v Speaker 1>because we got to let them know what you're all about. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Mikey has his own own company.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called Boss Graphics and my bigger LLC or is

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<v Speaker 2>a moonlight sign code? And that's that was my first

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<v Speaker 2>company and absorbed the company that I've been working at

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<v Speaker 2>for a while now, and it's going really well. It's

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<v Speaker 2>been this past year has been a big challenge, and

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for being there.

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<v Speaker 3>You're always I think.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no such thing as a dumb question, but there

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<v Speaker 2>is dumb questions. And I'm so glad that I can

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<v Speaker 2>call you and I don't ever have to feel like

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<v Speaker 2>bad about asking a stupid question because you've lived through

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<v Speaker 2>most things, or at least have some level of experience,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when it comes to business. So I have you

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<v Speaker 2>as a lifeline, and I know, like we don't see

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<v Speaker 2>each other as much as we'd like. Yeah, you're such

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<v Speaker 2>a big part of you know, what I'm doing now,

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<v Speaker 2>and so thank.

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<v Speaker 1>You for that. Oh you're welcome, brother. Oh my god, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>we're about I think we're going to cry about it.

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<v Speaker 3>We do. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So a mirror list and a sign painter and and

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<v Speaker 2>just a guy just trying to get better at his art.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you're doing great, because that's what he was saying.

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<v Speaker 1>The pickle that he had to pick with me is

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that he didn't make my sign. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>ask him to make my sign because he made Jennica

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<v Speaker 1>sign for her podcast over Comfort, and that's why he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>what the heck, But it's for METSI. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have anyone else do it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you're about this, and I would have lagged a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit, but it's okay. I have ideas now, so

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<v Speaker 2>next season that might look a little different.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I love that. Okay, you guys heard it here,

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<v Speaker 1>so you guys he said it. Yes, he's a man

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<v Speaker 1>of his word and going back to his business because

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<v Speaker 1>I think Mom would be very proud, because Mom was

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<v Speaker 1>all about, like, whatever you're passionate about, whatever that may be,

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<v Speaker 1>you freaking do it and you do be the best

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<v Speaker 1>at it, Mikey, And he said, Okay, if we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this about your love for graffiti and how you

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<v Speaker 1>would do it illegally, whatever, you want to talk to me, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Because he would freaking stress me out. Because I was

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<v Speaker 1>his supporter, I was like, Okay, if this is what

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<v Speaker 1>he likes to do, I don't necessarily agree hundred percent

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like, you know, he's doing this illegally and

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<v Speaker 1>he would hang you guys off of bridges and shit

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<v Speaker 1>doing graffiti and I'd be like, oh my, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I was hanging off.

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<v Speaker 2>That freaking BRIDGEI what But you would imagine it like

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<v Speaker 2>me hanging off I'm not that strong.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like there's a footing, there's it's a weird space.

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<v Speaker 3>I shouldn't be okay there, but it's dangerous. Are you

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<v Speaker 3>going to tell everybody that used to take me?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yeah, I used to take them.

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<v Speaker 3>Was a handful of times.

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<v Speaker 2>Jackie was my was my ride or jack like she

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<v Speaker 2>took me bombing a lot, like, yeah, my first era

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<v Speaker 2>of being prolific had a lot to do with Jackie.

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<v Speaker 1>But you take me to Jackie, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Each other she is implicated in fifteen year old crime.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh shit, more than that, dude, come up on. Wow, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>my brother, are you thirty you're gonna be thirty three? Jesus?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh your Jesus here, I say, dan full for really. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to resurrect in good way?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, being reborn.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, reborn. But so I love the fact that you

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<v Speaker 1>did exactly what I wanted, came and became and now

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<v Speaker 1>a business and you're a CEO and a business owner.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know that that's president. President I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like he was like anytime somebody like starts

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<v Speaker 2>their little like T shirt company or whatever, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>they want to throw like president sounds better for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like that anyway, Mike you for president? Well

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<v Speaker 1>he is a president, okay, So I think.

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<v Speaker 3>She would be proud. I think.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's kind of like my biggest like thing is

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<v Speaker 2>she didn't really get to see a better version of me,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm still not like the best version of myself

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<v Speaker 2>that I can be and that I'm striving to be.

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<v Speaker 2>But she didn't get to see me like okay because

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<v Speaker 2>it stressed her out a lot too, you know. And

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<v Speaker 2>and she and like to her credit, she never once

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<v Speaker 2>said like I remember the day that she like first

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<v Speaker 2>confronted me about it, and like, you know, like she

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<v Speaker 2>was never like don't do that, you know, like they

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<v Speaker 2>were like, at least don't do it this way, do

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<v Speaker 2>it the right way. Of course, I have to do

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<v Speaker 2>it in my own way. But so she was stressed out,

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't believe I was going to turn it

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<v Speaker 2>into anything for a long time because that wasn't really

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<v Speaker 2>the point of it. Yeah, it was kind of more

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<v Speaker 2>of a to develop a sense of identity, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's kind of it's kind of it's it's led through

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of things, for good or bad, like of

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<v Speaker 2>who I am now, and it's been part of my journey.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm like super grateful for it, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>I I might be past it, yeah, like mentally, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean right now anyways, just like I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have the same love for it. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm okay, I'm going through a part of my life

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<v Speaker 2>where things are you know, it's okay to accept the

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<v Speaker 2>things come to an end and things don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>be the same way forever. And even if it's something

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<v Speaker 2>that you feel like, well, this is all I've ever known,

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<v Speaker 2>like and that shit, it's really hard, Like I almost

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<v Speaker 2>want to cry right now, just because it's all I've

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<v Speaker 2>known and like for so many years.

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<v Speaker 3>I've part of your life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've only associated with certain type of people, and

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<v Speaker 2>now that I'm trying to live my life on the

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<v Speaker 2>right path, I realized they haven't always been the best people.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of you know, a lot of my friends

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<v Speaker 2>are guys looking with good and there's a few gems

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<v Speaker 2>in there. That are really guys that are really pushing

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<v Speaker 2>themselves forward. But for the most part, it's like holding

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<v Speaker 2>me back. And now I'm at a point where it's

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<v Speaker 2>like it's it's it's it's doue or die time right

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<v Speaker 2>now with you know, with the company and like really better.

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<v Speaker 3>In myself, super focused and if.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it is just not serving me anymore, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's hard to say, you know, because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>you know me, I'm like, uh, I like the artistic

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<v Speaker 2>part of graffiti, like, oh, it's an awesome mural, look

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<v Speaker 2>at all the colors and all that. But I like

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<v Speaker 2>the illegal aspect of it in the Russia and the

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<v Speaker 2>fucking being scared shitless, like I shouldn't be doing this.

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<v Speaker 2>I shouldn't be fucking over here off of the side

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<v Speaker 2>of the freeway. And then I get home and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>looking at my pictures and that's the best sleep in

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<v Speaker 2>my whole life, where it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Crazy like that rushful. Yeah. And it's not just because

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<v Speaker 3>of that.

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<v Speaker 2>There's just like I don't know if there's something to

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<v Speaker 2>take in public space back, Like I feel like we're

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<v Speaker 2>kind of bombarded with like buy this by this billboards

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<v Speaker 2>and signage and all this shit every everywhere. It's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and because of you. I would never write on businesses

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<v Speaker 2>like small businesses or like people's property or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 3>But if it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Corporate, if it's on the side of the freeway, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's like a little power box or something, whatever the

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<v Speaker 2>hell it is. It's like that's visually that's mine too,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Like that's how I used to feel. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't necessarily I've grown up a little bit and it's

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<v Speaker 2>like that's not really how the world works.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's what I was tell them. If you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to do it, just do it like where it's like

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<v Speaker 1>it's not going to like disturb anybody or upset anyone. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it have upset certain people, but whatever, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely I supported you and it made you happy. I

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<v Speaker 1>would pray for you all the time. I'm like, God,

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<v Speaker 1>please take care of them. And I get that rush

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<v Speaker 1>thing because when I used to sneak out to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the races over there in Compton, it was just like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not supposed to do this, but this is so fun.

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<v Speaker 3>It's more brazen about sneaking out of me. Dude. I

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<v Speaker 3>would never like hop out of the taking mom's car. Dude,

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<v Speaker 3>I was crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to talk about that one day. I did.

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<v Speaker 3>And then did you try to drive backwards to reverse

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<v Speaker 3>the mileage?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, stupid dude.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, all yes I did. Sure, it's all good. It's

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<v Speaker 4>all good because I must have been like sixteen years old.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't have my license yet. Fifteen, Yeah, I was younger. No,

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<v Speaker 4>for sure, I did not have my license.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was very risk take her to the fullest,

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<v Speaker 1>d especially with the type of mom we had. I'm like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>what the hell was I thinking?

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<v Speaker 3>No, for real, and like.

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<v Speaker 1>We I don't even think she knew later until yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think she.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you did say it, and I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 2>we had the conversation at some point and at that

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<v Speaker 2>point she's just.

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<v Speaker 1>Like like, well, yeah, okay, yeah, you know, yeah it's

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<v Speaker 1>crazy dude.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyways, Well, I'm I think what's happening in your life,

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<v Speaker 1>and I see it clearly is that, like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're being very and I love using this word you

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<v Speaker 1>on the podcast, but you're very intentional right now. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, it's like I want to be the

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<v Speaker 1>best I want to be the best person. I want

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<v Speaker 1>like you're doing things with intent and I see it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've always you know, me and my whole life,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been very nonchalant. Yeah, and it's kind of worked

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<v Speaker 2>for me. Like yeah, it's like, I mean, I've never

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<v Speaker 2>been a guy with the plan, and I've never been

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<v Speaker 2>like I need this to happen in the world for

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<v Speaker 2>me to be Okay. I think I've always been a journey,

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<v Speaker 2>not the destination. Yes, And I'm still very much enjoying

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<v Speaker 2>my journey, even on days when it's not fun, even

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<v Speaker 2>on days when I'm really stressed out and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm responsible for people's lives, like you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>and their family and they're they're and feeding their kids

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff and that, so that all rays on me.

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<v Speaker 2>So but even on those days, I'm like, I appreciate it,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know what, because it's like I get to

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<v Speaker 2>when I do make payroll, you know, and we do,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, But when we do make payroll, that.

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<v Speaker 3>Shit feels good when it goes through.

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<v Speaker 2>And like when I know I have work plan like planned,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like I'm putting my people on.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I'm so proud of you, dude. I forgot

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<v Speaker 3>what the no. But I'm so proud of you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm proud of you because I'm listening to I hear

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<v Speaker 1>you speak and I'm just like, I've always You've always

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<v Speaker 1>been such an intelligent boy having to fight.

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<v Speaker 2>It properly, and it's like, just imagine what I could

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<v Speaker 2>do that. That was the point where it's just like

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't ever really had a plan. It's like the

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<v Speaker 2>Joker says in the Batman movie, and just like a

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<v Speaker 2>dog chasing cars and like if I ever caught a car,

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<v Speaker 2>I not know what to do with it. But like

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<v Speaker 2>now it's just like and it's worked out well, But

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<v Speaker 2>I can't keep testing my luck because I have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of it has to do with them and it's

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<v Speaker 2>twenty because I'm not I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>The least like that of all you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I believe in that heavy that mom in one

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<v Speaker 2>way or another, is it looks out for me and

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<v Speaker 2>she's you know, pushing positions to succeed or she's saved

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<v Speaker 2>my ass and when I put myself in dumb situations

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like.

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<v Speaker 1>I really believe that. I feel like she has saved

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<v Speaker 1>your ass a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>And that luck is only going to run out for

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<v Speaker 2>so long, and it's like, Okay, it's time to have

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<v Speaker 2>a plan now, and it's time to want more and

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<v Speaker 2>like see what you can do then, Like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like I feel like, despite myself, I've been able

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<v Speaker 2>to make something in myself and now it's like, what

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<v Speaker 2>can happen if I stop getting in.

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<v Speaker 3>My own way? You know, like nice's due because no.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't nobody hold you back, but you yeah, absolutely absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I'm telling you, I freaking love my siblings.

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<v Speaker 1>I always learn from them, and I'm just like I

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<v Speaker 1>love listening to them. I love to listen to you

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<v Speaker 1>guys speak because you guys are fucking like we dropping

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<v Speaker 1>like little like nuggets, which is those little gems like

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<v Speaker 1>today what you're saying about, Prince. I was listening Prince

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<v Speaker 1>all morningful because you know me too this morn in

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<v Speaker 1>the group.

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<v Speaker 5>Child, I was just like, hell, yeah, I'm glad we

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<v Speaker 5>have that like too, because there was like a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of people that I find it so weird when people

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<v Speaker 5>are like, oh, I don't talk to my sister or

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<v Speaker 5>like you know, or we don't really have a relationship

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<v Speaker 5>or we didn't really grow up close, and that's so

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<v Speaker 5>now that I'm older, I try.

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<v Speaker 2>Not to judge because everybody's raised differently, and everybody goes

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<v Speaker 2>through their own journeys, and people perceive other people's actions differently,

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<v Speaker 2>so I can't be like, always forgive your siblings. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad that I'm like I'm over here on

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<v Speaker 2>my well, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think it was before my bike ride.

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<v Speaker 2>I was getting ready and I was like, I was,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just flipping through YouTube and I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that sounds interesting and like there was like some really

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<v Speaker 2>good stuff in them. And I was like, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>glad I can, like I have someone to send that to.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we all had a conversation about it was great.

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<v Speaker 3>We even we're good at that. We talked about Purple

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<v Speaker 3>Rain and you know that's your prince.

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<v Speaker 1>Is my father, you know, because I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>I've shared this before, I'm pretty sure I have. But

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<v Speaker 1>I was conceived in a Monta Carlo at the drive in,

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<v Speaker 1>like the movie drive in Thinkies or whatever. Listened to

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<v Speaker 1>my mom. I guess you always told me this that

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<v Speaker 1>she was They were listening to Purple Rain, so I

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<v Speaker 1>was called Prince mat Patherno. So we were talking about that.

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<v Speaker 1>We were having all this dialogue. It was really awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've shared with you guys that are that.

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<v Speaker 3>You were born from pre come, so pre come.

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<v Speaker 1>According to my mother, I knew that wait till the

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<v Speaker 1>city never finished.

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<v Speaker 3>At way too young of an age.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I'm you know, powerful, Hey, but wait, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, because then I know Dad is my dad

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<v Speaker 1>and my biological father father because what we have the

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<v Speaker 1>same father obviously, but anyways, because I look just like him, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't know where I heard this.

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<v Speaker 1>I do look like Dad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm barely coming to grips that we look like

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<v Speaker 2>like that we look and now I'm like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>see mom now in my face, I'm like, shit, that's weird,

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<v Speaker 2>or even see like some of.

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<v Speaker 3>My uncles, you for sure more these days, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Ones that we don't one that we don't speak to.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like I'm like, I see it like you

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<v Speaker 2>do in like the rear view mirror. I this in

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<v Speaker 2>the bridge in my nose. I'm like, oh shit, that's weird.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, honestly it's handsome father.

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<v Speaker 3>My father, your father. I'm weirried about that word.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, I know, I know, But how do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel about dad now talking about that, are you

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<v Speaker 1>like more open to talking to him or you're like.

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<v Speaker 3>Nah, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, this is something that I did do when we

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<v Speaker 2>were talking about, oh well, what should we talk about?

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<v Speaker 2>And I luckily Mom sent me to that school when

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<v Speaker 2>I was seventeen or sixteen, to the boarding school, and

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<v Speaker 2>that was we thought I was going away so I

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<v Speaker 2>can catch up in school. And that was the last

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<v Speaker 2>of their words, like we did everything on the computer

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<v Speaker 2>homeschooling program on the computer, but we did do seminars

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<v Speaker 2>and we did daily therapy and so eight months.

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<v Speaker 3>It was pretty much eight months.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, And in that school I had to deal

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<v Speaker 2>with And that's when when I came back, I started

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<v Speaker 2>going by the name because I was like I hated

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember how angry I used to walk around

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<v Speaker 2>for that guy, Like how mad I was all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we were going through court for the whole trial thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Mikey actually got a little physical with my dad.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's one of the things people bring up

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<v Speaker 2>from the show a lot there, like did you really

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<v Speaker 2>beat him up?

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<v Speaker 3>I beat him up. I punched him once and they

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<v Speaker 3>got socked up by my other uncles.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah, by his family.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but and it was a whole rumble, but it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was pretty crazy, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't know, And that was genuine like anger. That was

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<v Speaker 2>like my only chance that I ever and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>regret that at all. Actually, Like it was like Mom

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<v Speaker 2>was mad because she was like, you need to be

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<v Speaker 2>representing me better and show that I raised a man

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<v Speaker 2>with self control. Yeah, and I didn't have it in

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<v Speaker 2>that moment, but I were young, but yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just needed to get that out. But you

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<v Speaker 2>have anyways that because even you would tell me where

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, you know, I would I would speak badly

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<v Speaker 2>about him because of the anger that I internalized my

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<v Speaker 2>whole childhood. And you would be like, and I would

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<v Speaker 2>think there was something wrong with you. You're like, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't need to speak like that about him, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought that they're you know, I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, whatever, that's just Cheeky's being Cheeky's. But

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<v Speaker 2>then when I went to that school in Mexico we had,

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<v Speaker 2>I was forced to deal with it, and it's just

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<v Speaker 2>like really like genuinely like be like, all right, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to walk around with this forever, like he's

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<v Speaker 2>a human. He fucking made mistakes and he still needs

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<v Speaker 2>to out, you know, to to he's he still needs

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<v Speaker 2>to accept it or not or whatever. But whatever that is,

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<v Speaker 2>that's on his own time for me, for my sake,

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<v Speaker 2>for the sake because the people around me, for the

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<v Speaker 2>sake of my children, I need.

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<v Speaker 3>To let that go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and see the silver lining that like whatever he

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<v Speaker 2>was as a dad, like and he wasn't there and

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<v Speaker 2>so I don't have that example. But I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a clean slate. I don't have all these we have

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<v Speaker 2>generational things that you know, go on, but like as

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<v Speaker 2>far as dad, like, I don't got to hold onto that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and that doesn't have to be how I

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<v Speaker 2>carry myself with my kids and stuff. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>do when I say, I'm genuinely like no longer mad

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<v Speaker 2>at him and like no longer upset that I have

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<v Speaker 2>the same name. Like that's that that was a huge

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<v Speaker 2>thing for me. And like I feel like like I've

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<v Speaker 2>been told where it's like no, you just think you're

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<v Speaker 2>healed from it. You need to continue And it's like

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<v Speaker 2>that irks me.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like how can I like it? I mean you

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<v Speaker 3>tell me, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I like genuinely do not hate the guy. But

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<v Speaker 2>when Jackie says, oh, he'd like to talk to him,

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>A closed door.

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<v Speaker 1>That's something that you need to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Just there's there's so many doors ahead of me and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not I'm not thinking about this one over here

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<v Speaker 2>on the right, and I don't need to see what's

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<v Speaker 2>on the other side of that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay, And.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, you know, it sucks because it's hard, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think about Johnny in this sense a lot where

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<v Speaker 3>it's just like growing up without a man. It fucking

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<v Speaker 3>makes being a man a lot harder. We like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you still got to do it. I got to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's so either what am I going to do?

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<v Speaker 3>Reopen this door and like you know, or just that

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<v Speaker 3>makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean yeah, because for a long time you were upset,

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<v Speaker 1>and which is why your name is Mikey. Why we

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<v Speaker 1>call you Mikey because he didn't want to be called Trinidad.

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<v Speaker 3>I would like to clarify that. I like you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>People call me Mikey because.

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<v Speaker 2>They hear the Okay, they saw the reality show and

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm with my family.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's growing on me, like, you know, amongst you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>I am Mikey, but now like as a grown ass

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<v Speaker 2>man Mike.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I think that people have this thing where.

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<v Speaker 2>They see it's kind of as like still the age

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<v Speaker 2>that we were back then.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I feel like, I don't know, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>Mike anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Mikey, it's m ighk.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not technically on my on my anywhere, it's that

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<v Speaker 2>was my name one day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, so okay, so that's why his name is.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we call Why did okay? I always thought

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<v Speaker 1>Mom told me that it was because of Michael Jordan,

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<v Speaker 1>but in reality is it was because of the Ninja Turtle.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, but because he chose his name.

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<v Speaker 2>That's I didn't know the I suppressed a lot till

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<v Speaker 2>I was like seven years old, pretty much.

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<v Speaker 3>When dad was gone.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was normal that people's memories don't start

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<v Speaker 2>like till then, Like, but people, I know, I talked

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<v Speaker 2>to people and they remember being babies. Edward, our old producer,

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<v Speaker 2>said this, swear to god, he remembers being born Like

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<v Speaker 2>that's crazy, which I don't think that's necessarily true. But

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<v Speaker 2>my ship doesn't start so all out with seven, and

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<v Speaker 2>then like I didn't know, Like remember when I got

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<v Speaker 2>in When I became a teenager, I got really into

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<v Speaker 2>basketball again and it's been my favorite sword ever since.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that that happened because I got close with Red,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'd always had that love. I didn't know I

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<v Speaker 2>played when I was younger. Yeah, I did, so it

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<v Speaker 2>could have been because of that, but it's part of

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<v Speaker 2>a memory that I suppressed and pushed back. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm interested in. I'll be down to do like hypnotism

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<v Speaker 2>and just see what.

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<v Speaker 1>To see what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, dude. That's because I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 3>might have to do dad, or I don't really know,

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Because at first it was Max, yeah, because of the dog.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of the dog. We had a dog named rock

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<v Speaker 1>Roller named Max. So he was like, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>be I want my name to be maximm was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want your name to be Trindad.

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<v Speaker 3>We won't call you Trinidad. What do you want?

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<v Speaker 1>I want Max? And then after it was Michael.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and now the dog beat me or something.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, fuck Max, but yeah, yeah, but Mike.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, what I associated with is is Michaelangelo the

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<v Speaker 2>Ninja Turtle.

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<v Speaker 3>And I didn't know, like love that. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>at the.

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<v Speaker 2>Time that they were all named after Renaissance artists. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I just thought he was cool. He's always cracking.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he was like the funny one, hating.

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<v Speaker 2>Pizza and riding a skateboard and like kicking ass, Like

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I want to be. And I'm like, so, yeah,

0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:17.920
<v Speaker 2>there's people think that, so Michael Jordan and it kick.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I was like, I didn't even know my

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<v Speaker 2>middle name was Angela my whole life. Yeah, it just

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<v Speaker 2>happened to just happened to work.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's perfect. See Michael angel I love. That's my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite Ninja turtle. By the way, now that we're on

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<v Speaker 1>this topic, let's talk a little bit about your last name.

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<v Speaker 1>Our last name. I carry Marine. I never really wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to change it. We've never really talked about this because

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<v Speaker 1>it's a big thing, the whole Rivera thing, and like

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<v Speaker 1>how I don't use Cheeky's Rivera And that's not because

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<v Speaker 1>it's like I hate the last name. Obviously, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to honor my mother, but I feel that there's other

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<v Speaker 1>ways that I can honor her than to like change

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<v Speaker 1>my last name or use the last name or not

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<v Speaker 1>use it. But mom did, and she did ask us

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<v Speaker 1>before she passed, maybe like a year or two years,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Okay, she she had kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned that why don't you guys change your last name?

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't you guys change it to Rivera? And I remember,

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<v Speaker 1>even when she was here, I would tell her, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I like my last name. Mo, I'm like, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>what my dad did, like, I like Marine and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily want to be a Rivera. But how do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel because now you're going to change your last

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<v Speaker 1>name legally.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, I think?

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<v Speaker 2>And with you, it's kind of like it's like like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, with Thrin Dad, it's it's like owning it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like that's, yeah, whatever is before this point doesn't matter.

0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:32.399
<v Speaker 2>That's your last name, you know. Yeah, and not for

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<v Speaker 2>much longer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, true, true.

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<v Speaker 2>But but I mean so I understand that. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's different because we're you know, I you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a male, so I carry I give on. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's true the last name. And it's like, okay, Luna

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<v Speaker 2>already has Marine, and when it came with the second baby,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like do I want to is that the name

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<v Speaker 2>I want to push? It was like no, Like I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm my mom's child and I'm carrying on her name

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<v Speaker 2>and like.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever attached to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Because even if you think about it, like there are

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<v Speaker 2>people that will say, oh, they're not actually Rivera's whatever.

0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:10.480
<v Speaker 2>They it's a name, who cares, you know, But even

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<v Speaker 2>like even if it's like not being even if it's

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<v Speaker 2>attached from the certain group of people.

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<v Speaker 3>Now like that was detected. We never knew any of

0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:21.879
<v Speaker 3>the Riveras in in cho you know, none of us

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<v Speaker 3>know them. We know that we don't like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, that's grandpa's name and that's fine, and like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the mom's carried on his legacy, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>carrying on my mother's and in my own way.

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<v Speaker 3>And it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we've never talked about this, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the first time retection.

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<v Speaker 3>It was kind of I think we were at odds

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<v Speaker 3>and we're like, we're not having this conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>We're kind of like, hold up because there was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot going on. But now that you're explaining to me,

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<v Speaker 1>that makes a lot of sense. Absolutely, You're you're the man,

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<v Speaker 1>and like you're honoring your mother and you want so

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<v Speaker 1>are you changing Luna's last name too?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And she's actually she wants her name to be hyphenated,

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<v Speaker 2>so she wants her she wants her mom's last name. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And she even shows the order or whatever. It's Rivera,

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<v Speaker 2>I Bara. I was like, like, phonetically bar Rivera sounds better.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, no, I want it like that, Dad, Okay. So,

0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:11.800
<v Speaker 2>and she's super excited about it because she she's in

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<v Speaker 2>her like her fan stage right now.

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<v Speaker 3>She's been for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's like listening to mom's music and everything. She

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<v Speaker 1>listens to my music.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, I want to meet I want to meet

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<v Speaker 2>my my uncle Lupe. And I'm like, what that's so random,

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<v Speaker 2>like just because like, I mean, nothing against my deal,

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<v Speaker 2>but we just haven't you know, he's been out his

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<v Speaker 2>way for a long time. You know, we had we

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<v Speaker 2>were at odds. I think when I was younger because

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<v Speaker 2>of how I viewed things. Yeah, so I mean and

0:23:36.800 --> 0:23:38.720
<v Speaker 2>I against him, but it was yeah, I don't care

0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:41.679
<v Speaker 2>like that, but I just you know, it's it's just

0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:44.359
<v Speaker 2>like it's when she did it, when she asked me

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<v Speaker 2>out of nowhere, I'm just like, okay, like why might

0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:48.320
<v Speaker 2>Luca of all of them?

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<v Speaker 1>But you know that little girl has a total mind

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<v Speaker 1>of her own. And I love that you and her

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<v Speaker 1>mom like you guys, You guys embraced that, like you

0:23:56.000 --> 0:23:58.800
<v Speaker 1>allow her to be here, like like show her individuality.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love that because instead of you getting upset

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<v Speaker 1>because there's certain things that Luna is his oldest daughter, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and he has a little baby, he has two girls,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're and we'll talk about you being a dad.

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<v Speaker 1>But you sent a video in the group chat of

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<v Speaker 1>her or I think you posted it on Instagram of

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<v Speaker 1>her talking about what her future husband was going to

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<v Speaker 1>look like Oh yeah, dude, and you were just like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me, And she was telling you what that she

0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:22.520
<v Speaker 1>wanted him tall, dark and hands, yeah yeah, And she

0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:24.880
<v Speaker 1>said she wanted tattoos and jet black hair.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. She's always but she's always known who she is.

0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember really early on, I stopped choosing her clothes for her,

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<v Speaker 3>like yeah, and you just let her.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, she wasn't happy in the little T shirts

0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:38.199
<v Speaker 2>and little jeggings I was picking for her, and she

0:24:38.280 --> 0:24:42.040
<v Speaker 2>wanted to wear this ridiculous, fucking trolls wig and like

0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:44.919
<v Speaker 2>a shirt a skirt and like two different socks because

0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:46.960
<v Speaker 2>they had different colors, and.

0:24:46.760 --> 0:24:49.560
<v Speaker 3>Like, you know, like I love it. And I of.

0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:52.160
<v Speaker 2>Course, like most guys that you know, when you find

0:24:52.160 --> 0:24:54.879
<v Speaker 2>out you're having a baby so soon and you know

0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:56.800
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna he's gonna do all the things that I

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<v Speaker 2>like and doing. Fuck that Luna came out. She's like, no,

0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:02.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm a girl. I don't know nothing about this, but

0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:04.119
<v Speaker 2>you better learn. I still can't do her hair, but

0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:06.000
<v Speaker 2>thank god, she's like she's just.

0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Like she's like, I like my hair down and I

0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:09.600
<v Speaker 1>don't don't don't touch what she's getting.

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<v Speaker 2>Back into styles and oh yeah, she's always known who

0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:14.280
<v Speaker 2>she is. And I'm like, and I just loved seeing

0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:16.679
<v Speaker 2>that it's come out because she was nonverbal till she

0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:19.720
<v Speaker 2>was four, and like, yeah, so even on days where

0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:22.520
<v Speaker 2>she's just like bombarding me like with questions and just

0:25:22.560 --> 0:25:24.359
<v Speaker 2>talking to me and being goofy, right now, she's in

0:25:24.440 --> 0:25:27.480
<v Speaker 2>her you know. I I I was like, damn, is

0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:29.040
<v Speaker 2>there something wrong with me? Because she's a lot to

0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:32.439
<v Speaker 2>handle right now. Sometimes but it's like I was remember

0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:35.280
<v Speaker 2>how annoying I was at like fucking at like eleven

0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:39.439
<v Speaker 2>years old. She just wants to be funny, and like

0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:41.679
<v Speaker 2>she's learning how to make jokes, and you know, she

0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:44.840
<v Speaker 2>doesn't necessarily know how jokes work, and so it's a

0:25:44.880 --> 0:25:46.879
<v Speaker 2>lot and sometimes it's not sensical, and I don't know

0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:48.560
<v Speaker 2>what to say. But I'm like, that's a lot better

0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:50.960
<v Speaker 2>than me when I was eleven purposely trying to get

0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:54.000
<v Speaker 2>on people's nerves and yeah, being a little bitch, dude,

0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm sorry, I don't know for a lot.

0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Of Yeah, you can say bitch and and all that.

0:25:58.480 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 2>But like, you know, like, and so right now she's

0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:03.240
<v Speaker 2>in that phase. And so even in moments where I'm

0:26:03.240 --> 0:26:05.560
<v Speaker 2>a little overwhelmed, I'm like, dude, this is way better

0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:08.040
<v Speaker 2>than I thought she was gonna be non verbal her

0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:08.440
<v Speaker 2>whole life.

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<v Speaker 3>I have no reason, yeah to.

0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Believe she's thriving right now. Yeah, and she talks about

0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:15.919
<v Speaker 1>and she's so smart and has an amazing memory like

0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:16.520
<v Speaker 1>her grandmother.

0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:18.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think she's gonna be okay.

0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:21.879
<v Speaker 2>And like, my biggest thing is, uh, is you know,

0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:24.119
<v Speaker 2>just anything that she wants to do, whether it's she

0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 2>wants to go away for college, she wants her own apartment,

0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:27.200
<v Speaker 2>she wants.

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<v Speaker 3>A purple Honda.

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:31.119
<v Speaker 2>She so she knows she wants to, you know, be

0:26:31.160 --> 0:26:33.280
<v Speaker 2>a nail tech, she wants to do hair, she wants

0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:36.399
<v Speaker 2>to be an actress, a singer, and who are we

0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 2>to say that she can't do all these things? R

0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:40.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, like obviously I just want to let her

0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:44.040
<v Speaker 2>explore things. And obviously me and her mom have always

0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:46.720
<v Speaker 2>been very guarded guarded over her as far as you know,

0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:50.239
<v Speaker 2>So I don't necessarily want her making a TikTok right

0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:52.399
<v Speaker 2>now or open YouTube page. But do I want her to,

0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:54.359
<v Speaker 2>like if we get her in the studio so she

0:26:54.359 --> 0:26:56.720
<v Speaker 2>could record something that would be like the best, you know.

0:26:56.760 --> 0:26:59.639
<v Speaker 1>Like I think she wants to express herself because she

0:26:59.640 --> 0:27:02.520
<v Speaker 1>writes so and she writes things, and I think that

0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:04.720
<v Speaker 1>you guys, I love that. I love how you and

0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:07.840
<v Speaker 1>her mom have like just embraced it and let her

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:09.840
<v Speaker 1>just be, which I think is awesome. And I was

0:27:10.119 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 1>talking about you as a parent. I remember specifically when

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<v Speaker 1>I one time I will tell you like, you're so

0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:16.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm so proud of you. I'm so proud of you

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:18.840
<v Speaker 1>for the dad that you are, and You're like, what

0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:21.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm just doing, like what I'm supposed to do, you know,

0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:23.280
<v Speaker 1>and I and when you said that to me, I

0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:25.320
<v Speaker 1>was like, shit, I guess so, but I guess I

0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 1>was saying more of like I'm proud of you because

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:29.480
<v Speaker 1>you weren't you didn't have your dad in your life,

0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:31.080
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like he was absent, and

0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 1>the fact that it's just you're just such a great dad.

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:36.679
<v Speaker 3>Like I try. I mean, I really are.

0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:40.040
<v Speaker 2>I think I'm overly critical in myself and everything, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's the only way I know how to operate. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's like I take everything with the grain of salt.

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<v Speaker 2>And then a lot of times I just feel like

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<v Speaker 2>because so many it was more common for my friends

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<v Speaker 2>growing up to not have their dad around. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like yeah, and I didn't, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't think it was like it was kind of weird

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<v Speaker 2>that when I would go to my wife friend's Houston,

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<v Speaker 2>Narca and they had a full family or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>It was cool. I was like, oh shit, like this

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<v Speaker 3>is same.

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<v Speaker 2>But most of my friends didn't have their dads growing up,

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<v Speaker 2>and like I think we all like that's we thought

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<v Speaker 2>that that was a normal thing. Yeah, and some of us,

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<v Speaker 2>some of us are like, you know, not not us,

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't associate with dudes that, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>if you have your kids and you're a bump ass,

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<v Speaker 2>you know you're not you don't spend I can't get

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<v Speaker 2>enough time with Luna, you know what I'm saying, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so we actually take pride of that in

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<v Speaker 2>our generation, or you're the type of person like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have adet, so I don't have to be

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<v Speaker 2>around it, and I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>That can never be an excuse. And it's I think

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people you get props for just being

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<v Speaker 2>around and for me that's not enough either, Like that's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's not just like yeah, well no, most

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<v Speaker 2>people's dads aren't around, so good job for just being there,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And I try not to like pat myself

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<v Speaker 2>on the back for that too much because.

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<v Speaker 1>I just be like, I'm a provider and I get

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<v Speaker 1>you what you need.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, yeah, like there's.

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<v Speaker 2>Way more to being a parent, you know, like than that.

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<v Speaker 2>And with Nova, it's a it's a second chance to

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<v Speaker 2>start again.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, guys, wait, we're running a little bit out of time, well,

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<v Speaker 1>well run out of time, so we're just gonna leave

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<v Speaker 1>the second part of our conversation for tomorrow, So tune

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<v Speaker 1>in tomorrow because we're gonna, you know, talk about a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Mikey, come out of the closet. Who knows tuning

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