1 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Brother two Times. So, guys, 2 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: if you don't know who my brother is, this is Mikey. 3 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: This is my little big brother. Okay, thank you for 4 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: coming to my podcast. Finally, Yes, but you make. 5 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: It seem like I didn't want to be part of it. 6 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: And then when I was on Jenica's you're like all jelly. 7 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: Belly, jelly belly, but your requested subject is very important. 8 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: Yes, but I wasn't. 9 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: He wasn't. 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 2: I'm still not ready. I guess I think we'll talk 11 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: about my reasoning behind all that stuff today. 12 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: But because I don't, I know you love me. 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 2: If if we're, if we're, if we got pickles with 14 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 2: each other, that's not a bone to pick with each other. 15 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: You have a pickle with me? Yeah, what's the pickle? 16 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 2: This sign? 17 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: Oh? 18 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: Okay, it's cute. Yeah, I'm sure they got to here quick. 19 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: I'm Jenica. 20 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: She waited a year, but yes, so talking about Jenica 21 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: because okay, guys, Jenica has been on the podcast, Jackie 22 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: has been on the podcast, and Mikey has it. John 23 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: has been here a couple of times as well, and 24 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 1: talking about Jenica. Look at his sweater you guys. Okay, 25 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: it's over comfort. Look at him. He comes to my 26 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: podcast wearing his favorite sisters because Jennica is his favorite sister. 27 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: Yes or no, don't lie. 28 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 2: I don't have a favorite. She's my only little sister. 29 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: Okay, that's true. He has two big sisters. That makes sense. 30 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 1: That's okay. Jennica is awesome, so. 31 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: She's a best but yeah, and then this is also 32 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: I wanted to come like decent, and. 33 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: I know it was very hand separately. 34 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is like everything else has paint on it. 35 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: Right now, the color coordination. 36 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 2: I like laundry every week now though. 37 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm so proud. So are you separating the whites? Yeah, 38 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: but I don't have very much white okay, okay, but 39 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: please separate the whites. 40 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I do. I separate and I even I even, 41 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: I like I've started to use the bleach. But like 42 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, I'm a black shirt kind of guy. 43 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: Yeah you are. 44 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 2: I don't for white shirts. 45 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I always have paint on everything. Talking about paint, 46 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: because we got to let them know what you're all about. Okay. 47 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: Mikey has his own own company. 48 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: It's called Boss Graphics, and my bigger llc or is 49 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: a Moonlight sign code and that's that was my first 50 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: company and absorbed the company that I've been working at 51 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: for a while now, and it's going really well. It's 52 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: been this past year has been a big challenge, and 53 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: thank you for being there. You're always I think there's 54 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: no such thing as a dumb question, but there is 55 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: dumb questions. And I'm so glad that I can call 56 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 2: you and I don't ever have to feel like bad 57 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,839 Speaker 2: about asking a stupid question because you've lived through most things, 58 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: or at least have some level of experience, especially when 59 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 2: it comes to business. So I have you as a lifeline, 60 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: and I know, like we don't see each other as 61 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: much as we'd like. Yeah, you're such a big part 62 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: of you know, what I'm doing now, and so thank. 63 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: You for that. Oh you're welcome, brother. Oh my god, dude, 64 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: we're about I think we're going to cry about it. 65 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: We do. Yeah. So a mirror list and a sign 66 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: painter and and just a guy just trying to get 67 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: better at his art. 68 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're doing great, because that's what he was saying. 69 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: The pickle that he had to pick with me is 70 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,399 Speaker 1: the fact that he didn't make my sign. I didn't 71 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: ask him to make my sign because he made Jennica 72 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: sign for her podcast over Comfort and that's why he's like, 73 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: what the heck, But it's for METSI. I mean, I 74 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: didn't have anyone else do it. 75 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: No, you're about this, and I would have lagged a 76 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: little bit, but it's okay. I have ideas now, so 77 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 2: next season that might look a little different. 78 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: Oh I love that. Okay, you guys heard it here, 79 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: so you guys he said it. Yes, he's a man 80 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: of his word and going back to his business because 81 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: I think Mom would be very proud, because Mom was 82 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,399 Speaker 1: all about, like, whatever you're passionate about, whatever that may be, 83 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: you freaking do it and you do be the best 84 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: at it, Mikey, And he said, Okay, if we talk 85 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: about this about your love for graffiti and how you 86 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: would do it illegally, whatever, you want to talk to me, okay, 87 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: Because he would freaking stress me out. Because I was 88 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: his supporter. I was like, Okay, if this is what 89 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: he likes to do, I don't necessarily agree hundred percent 90 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: because it's like, you know, he's doing this illegally and 91 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: he would hang you guys off of bridges and shit 92 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: doing graffiti, and I'd be like, oh my, he said, 93 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: Oh I was hanging off that freaking BRIDGEI what But 94 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: you would. 95 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: Imagine it like me hanging off. I'm not that strong. 96 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: It's like there's a footing, there's it's a weird space. 97 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: I shouldn't be okay there, but it's dangerous. 98 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: Are you going to tell everybody that used to take me? Oh? 99 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I used to take them a. 100 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: Handful of times. Jackie was my was my ride or 101 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 2: jack like she took me bombing a lot, like, yeah, 102 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: my first era of being prolific had a lot to 103 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 2: do with Jackie. 104 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: But you take me to Jackie, so. 105 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: Each other she is implicated in fifteen year old crime. 106 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 2: Oh shit, more than that, dude, come up on. Wow, yeah, 107 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 2: my brother, are you thirty? You're gonna be thirty three? Jesus? 108 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: Oh your Jesus here, I say, dull for really? Yeah, 109 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: you're going to resurrect in good way? 110 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, being reborn. 111 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, reborn. But so I love the fact that you 112 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: did exactly what I wanted, came and became and now 113 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: a business and you're a CEO and a business owner, 114 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: and I know that that's president president. I don't know why. 115 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 2: I feel like he was like anytime somebody like starts 116 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: their little like T shirt company or whatever, it's like 117 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: they want to throw like president sounds better for me. 118 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 2: I don't know why. 119 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that anyway, Mike you for president? Well 120 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: he is a president, okay, So I think. 121 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 2: She would be proud. I think So that's kind of 122 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: like my biggest like thing is she didn't really get 123 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 2: to see a better version of me because I'm still 124 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 2: not like the best version of myself that I can 125 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: be and that I'm striving to be. But she didn't 126 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 2: get to see me like okay, because it stressed her 127 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: out a lot too, you know. And and she and 128 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 2: like to her credit, she never once said like I 129 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 2: remember the day that she like first confronted me about it, 130 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 2: and like, you know, like she was never like don't 131 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 2: do that, you know, like you they were like, at 132 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 2: least don't do it this way, do it the right way. 133 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 2: Of course, I have to do it in my own way. 134 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: But so she was stressed out, and I didn't believe 135 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 2: I was going to turn it into anything for a 136 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: long time because that wasn't really the point of it. Yeah, 137 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: it was kind of more of a to develop a 138 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: sense of identity, and yeah, that's kind of it's kind 139 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: of it's it's led through a lot of things, for 140 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 2: good or bad, like of who I am now, and 141 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 2: it's been part of my journey. So I'm like super 142 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: grateful for it, but I think I I might be 143 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 2: past it, yeah, like mentally, yeah, I mean right now anyways, 144 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: like I don't like, I don't have the same love 145 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: for it. And I'm like, I'm okay, I'm going through 146 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 2: a part of my life where things are you know, 147 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: it's okay to accept the things come to an end 148 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: and things don't have to be the same way forever. 149 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: And even if it's something that you feel like, well, 150 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: this is all I've ever known, like and that shit, 151 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 2: it's really hard, Like I almost want the car right now, 152 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: just because it's all I've known and like for so 153 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 2: many years. 154 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: I've part of your life. 155 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've only associated with certain type of people, and 156 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 2: now that I'm trying to live my life on the 157 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 2: right path, I realized they haven't always been the best people. 158 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: A lot of you know, a lot of my friends 159 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 2: are guys looking with good and there's a few gems 160 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: in there that are really guys that are really pushing 161 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: themselves forward, but for the most part, it's like holding 162 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 2: me back. And now I'm at a point where it's 163 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: like it's it's it's it's doue or die time right 164 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 2: now with you know, with the company and like really better. 165 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: In myself, super focused and if. 166 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it is just not serving me anymore, and 167 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: it's it's hard to say, you know, because I don't 168 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: you know me, I'm like, uh, I like the artistic 169 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: part of graffiti, like, oh, it's an awesome mural, look 170 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: at all the colors and all that. But I like 171 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: the illegal aspect of it in the Russia and the 172 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: fucking being scared shitless, like I shouldn't be doing this. 173 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 2: I shouldn't be fucking over here off of the side 174 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: of the freeway. And then I get home and I'm 175 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: looking at my pictures and that's the best sleep in 176 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 2: my whole life, where it's. 177 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: Crazy like that rushful. 178 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's not just because of that. There's just 179 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: like I don't know if there's something to take in 180 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: public space back, Like I feel like we're kind of 181 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: bombarded with like buy this by this billboards and signage 182 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 2: and all this shit every everywhere. It's like, okay, and 183 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 2: because of you, I would never write on businesses like 184 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: small businesses or like people's property or anything like that. 185 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: But if it's corporate, if it's on the side of 186 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: the freeway, it's it's like a little power box or something, 187 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: whatever the hell it is. It's like that's visually that's 188 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: mine too, you know, Like that's how I used to feel. 189 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily I've grown up a little bit and 190 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: it's like that's not really how the world works. 191 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: But that's what I was tell them. If you're going 192 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: to do it, just do it like where it's like 193 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: it's not going to like disturb anybody or upset anyone. Well, 194 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: it have upset certain people, but whatever. I mean, I 195 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: definitely I supported you and it made you happy. I 196 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: would pray for you all the time. I'm like, God, 197 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: please take care of them. And I get that rush 198 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: thing because when I used to sneak out to go 199 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: to the races over there in Compton, it was just like, dude, 200 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to do this, but this is so fun. 201 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 2: More brazen about sneaking out of me, Dude, I would 202 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: never like hop out of the taking mom's car. 203 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: Dude, I was crazy. We got to talk about that 204 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: one day. I did. 205 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: And then did you try to drive backwards to reverse 206 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: the mileage? 207 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: Yes, stupid dude. 208 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, all yes I did. Sure, it's all good. It's 209 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 3: all good because I must have been like sixteen years old. 210 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 3: I didn't have my license yet. Fifteen, Yeah, I was younger. No, 211 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: for sure, I did not have my license. 212 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was very risk take her to the fullest, 213 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: d especially with the type of mom we had him, Like, dude, 214 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: what the hell was I thinking? 215 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: No, for real, and like. 216 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: We I don't even think she knew later until yeah, 217 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: I think she. 218 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: I think you did say it, and I'm pretty sure 219 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 2: we had the conversation at some point and at that 220 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: point she's just. 221 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: Like like, well, yeah, okay, yeah, you know, yeah it's 222 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: crazy dude. 223 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 224 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: Anyways, well I'm I think what's happening in your life, 225 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: and I see it clearly is that, like, I don't know, 226 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: you're being very and I love using this word you 227 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: on the podcast, but you're very intentional right now. It's 228 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: like you know, it's like I want to be the best. 229 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: I want to be the best person. I want like 230 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: you're doing things with intent and I see it. 231 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 2: And I've always, you know, me and my whole life, 232 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 2: I've been very nonchalant. Yeah, and it's kind of worked 233 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: for me. Like yeah, it's like, I mean, I've never 234 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: been a guy with the plan, and I've never been 235 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 2: like I need this to happen in the world for 236 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: me to be Okay. I think I've always been a journey, 237 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 2: not the destination. Yes, and I'm still very much enjoying 238 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 2: my journey, even on days when it's not fun, even 239 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 2: on days when I'm really stressed out and you know, 240 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 2: like I'm responsible for people's lives, like you know, like 241 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: and their family and they're they're and feeding their kids 242 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 2: and stuff and that, so that all rays on me. 243 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: So but even on those days, I'm like, I appreciate it, 244 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 2: like you know what, because it's like I get to 245 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 2: when I do make payroll, you know, and we do, 246 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But when we do make payroll, 247 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 2: that shit feels good when it goes through. And like 248 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 2: when I know I have work plan like planned, it's 249 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 2: like I'm putting my people on. 250 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: And so I'm so proud of you, dude. I forgot 251 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: what the no, but I'm so proud of you. I'm 252 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: proud of you because I'm listening to I hear you 253 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: speak and I'm just like, I've always You've always been 254 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 1: such an intelligent boy having to fight it properly. 255 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 2: And it's like, just imagine what I could do that. 256 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 2: That was the point where it's just like I haven't 257 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: ever really had a plan. It's like the Joker says 258 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 2: in the Batman movie, and just like a dog chasing 259 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: cars and like if I ever caught a car, I 260 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 2: not know what to do with it. But like now 261 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 2: it's just like and it's worked out well, But I 262 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 2: can't keep testing my luck because I have a lot 263 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: of it has to do with them and it's twenty 264 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 2: because I'm not I'm the least like that of all 265 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: you guys. Yeah, I believe in that heavy that mom 266 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: in one way or another, is it looks out for 267 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 2: me and she's you know, pushing in positions to succeed 268 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: or she's saved my ass and when I put myself 269 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 2: in dumb situations and I'm like. 270 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: I really believe that. I feel like she has saved 271 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: your ass a lot. 272 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 2: And that luck is only going to run out for 273 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 2: so long, and it's like, Okay, it's time to have 274 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: a plan now, and it's time to want more and 275 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 2: like see what you can do then, Like you know, 276 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 2: it's like I feel like, despite myself, I've been able 277 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: to make something in myself and now it's like, what 278 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: can happen if I stop getting in my own way? 279 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 2: You know, like Nice's Dudeau. Can't nobody hold you back? 280 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: But you yeah, absolutely absolutely, Oh my god, I'm telling you, 281 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: I freaking love my siblings. I always learn from them, 282 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: and I'm just like I love listening to them. I 283 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: love to listen to you guys speak because you guys 284 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: are fucking like we dropping like little like nuggets, which 285 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: is those little gems like today what you're saying about, Prince. 286 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: I was listening Prince all morningful because you know me 287 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: too this morn in the group. 288 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 4: Child, I was just like, hell, yeah, I'm glad we 289 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 4: have that like too, because there was like a lot 290 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 4: of people that I find it so weird when people 291 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 4: are like, oh, I don't talk to my sister or 292 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 4: like you know, or we don't really have a relationship 293 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 4: or we didn't really grow up close. 294 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 2: And that's so now that I'm older. I try not 295 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 2: to judge because everybody's raised differently, and everybody goes through 296 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 2: their own journeys, and people perceive other people's actions differently, 297 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 2: so I can't be like always forgive your siblings. But 298 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 2: I'm so glad that I'm like, I'm over here on 299 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 2: my well, I think it was before my bike ride. 300 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 2: I was getting ready and I was like, I was, 301 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: you know, just flipping through YouTube and I'm like, oh, 302 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 2: that sounds interesting and like there was like some really 303 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: good stuff in them. And I was like, and I'm 304 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: glad I can, like I have someone to send that to. 305 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 2: And then we all had a conversation about it was great. 306 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 2: We even we're good at that. We talked about Purple 307 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 2: Rain and you know that's your Prince. 308 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: Is my father, you know, because I don't know if 309 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: I've shared this before, I'm pretty sure I have. But 310 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: I was conceived in a Monta Carlo at the drive in, 311 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: like the movie drive in Thinkies or whatever. Listened to 312 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: my mom. I guess you always told me this that 313 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: she was They were listening to Purple Rain, so I 314 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: was called Prince mat Patherno. So we were talking about that. 315 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: We were having all this dialogue. It was really awesome. 316 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: And I've shared with you guys that are that. 317 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 2: You were born from pre come, so pre come. According 318 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 2: to my mother, I knew that wait till the city 319 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: never finished at way too young of an age. 320 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm you know, powerful, Hey, but wait, I 321 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: don't know, because then I know Dad is my dad 322 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 1: and my biological father father because what we have the 323 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: same father obviously, but anyways, because I look just like him, right, 324 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: But I don't know where I heard this. I do 325 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: look like Dad. 326 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm barely coming to grips that we look like 327 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 2: like that we look and now I'm like, oh, I 328 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: see mom now in my face, I'm like, shit, that's weird, 329 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: or even see like some of my uncles. 330 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 1: You for sure more of these days like. 331 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: Ones that we don't one that we don't speak to. 332 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 2: So it's like, I'm like, I see it like you 333 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 2: do in like the rear view mirror. I this in 334 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 2: the bridge in my nose. I'm like, oh shit, that's weird. 335 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, honestly it's handsome father, my father, your father. 336 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 2: I'm weirried about that word. 337 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know, I know, But how do 338 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: you feel about dad. Now talking about that, are you 339 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: like more open to talking to him or you're like, nah, 340 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm good. 341 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 2: Actually, this is something that I did do when we 342 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: were talking about, oh, well, what should we talk about? 343 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: And I luckily Mom sent me to that school when 344 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 2: I was seventeen or sixteen, to the boarding school, and 345 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: that was we thought I was going away so I 346 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 2: can catch up in school. And that was the last 347 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: of their words, like we did everything on the computer, 348 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: homeschooling program on the computer, but we did do seminars 349 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 2: and we did daily therapy and so eight months. It 350 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: was pretty much eight months. Yeah, yeah, And in that 351 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: school I had to deal with And that's when when 352 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 2: I came back, I started going by the name because 353 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 2: I was like I hated Do you remember how angry 354 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 2: I used to walk around for that guy, Like how 355 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: mad I was all the time. 356 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: Well, we were going through court for the whole trial thing. 357 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: Mikey actually got a little physical with my dad. 358 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot. 359 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: I think that's one of. 360 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: The things people bring up from the show A lout there, 361 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 2: like did you really beat him up? I beat him up. 362 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 2: I punched him once and they got socked up by 363 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 2: my other uncles. 364 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, by his family. 365 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but and it was a whole rumble, but it. 366 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: Was pretty crazy, I. 367 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 2: Don't know, And that was genuine like anger. That was 368 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: like my only chance that I ever and I don't 369 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: regret that at all. Actually, Like it was like Mom 370 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 2: was mad because she was like, you need to be 371 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: representing me better and show that I raised a man 372 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 2: with self control. Yeah, and I didn't have it in 373 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 2: that moment, but I were young, but yeah, I mean, 374 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 2: and I just needed to get that out. But you 375 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 2: have anyways that because even you would tell me where 376 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: it's like, you know, I would I would speak badly 377 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: about him because of the anger that I internalized my 378 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: whole childhood. And you would be like, and I would 379 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 2: think there was something wrong with you. You're like, you 380 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 2: don't need to speak like that about him, and I'm like, 381 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: and I thought that they're you know, I was like, yeah, 382 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 2: I was like, whatever, that's just Cheeky's being Cheeky's. But 383 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: then when I went to that school in Mexico we had, 384 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: I was forced to deal with it, and it's just 385 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 2: like really like genuinely like be like, all right, I 386 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: don't have to walk around with this forever, like he's 387 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: a human. He fucking made mistakes and he still needs 388 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: to care that out, you know, to to he's he 389 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 2: still needs to accept it or not or whatever. But 390 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: whatever that is, that's on his own time for me, 391 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 2: for my sake, for the sake because the people around me, 392 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: for the sake of my children, I need to let 393 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 2: that go. Yeah, and see the silver lining that like 394 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: whatever he was as a dad, like and he wasn't 395 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 2: there and so I don't have that example. But I 396 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 2: don't have a clean slate. I don't have all these 397 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 2: we have generational things that you know, go on, but 398 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: like as far as dad, like, I don't got to 399 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 2: hold onto that, you know, and that doesn't have to 400 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 2: be how I carry myself with my kids and stuff. 401 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 2: And so I do when I say, I'm genuinely like 402 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: no longer mad at him and like no longer upset 403 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 2: that I have the same name. Like that's that that 404 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 2: was a huge thing for me. And like I feel 405 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 2: like like I've been told where it's like no, you 406 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: just think you're healed from it. You need to continue 407 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 2: And it's like that irks me. It's like how can 408 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 2: I like it? 409 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: I mean you tell me, Yeah. 410 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: Like I like, genuinely do not hate the guy. But 411 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 2: when Jackie says, oh, he'd like to talk to him, like, 412 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 2: I don't, it's a closed door. 413 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: That's something that you need to do. 414 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 2: Just there's there's so many doors ahead of me and 415 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not thinking about this one over here 416 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 2: on the right, and I don't need to see what's 417 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 2: on the other side of that. 418 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: It's okay, And. 419 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 2: It's like, you know, it sucks because it's hard, and 420 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 2: I think about Johnny in this sense a lot where 421 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 2: it's just like growing up without a man. It fucking 422 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 2: makes being a man a lot harder than well, like, yeah, 423 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 2: you still got to do it to do it, and 424 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: it's so either what am I going to do? Reopen 425 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 2: this door and like you know, or. 426 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 1: Just that makes sense. I mean yeah, because for a 427 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: long time you were upset, and which is why your 428 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: name is Mikey. Why we call you Mikey because he 429 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: didn't want to be called Trinidad. I would like to 430 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: clarify that. 431 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 2: I like you guys. People call me Mikey because they 432 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: hear the Okay, they saw the reality show and like 433 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 2: I'm with my family. I like that one. Now it's 434 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 2: growing on me, like, you know, amongst you guys, I 435 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 2: am Mikey, but now like as a grown ass man Mike. 436 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 2: You know. I think that people have this thing where 437 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 2: they see it's kind of as like still the age 438 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 2: that we were back then. 439 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel like, I don't know, it's not 440 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: Mike anymore. It's Mikey, it's m ighk. 441 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 2: It's not technically on my on my anywhere, it's that 442 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 2: was my name one day. 443 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so okay, So that's why his name is. 444 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: That's what we call Why did okay? I always thought 445 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: Mom told me that it was because of Michael Jordan, 446 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: But in reality is it was because of the Ninja Turtle. Yes, 447 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: but because he chose his name. 448 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 2: That's I didn't know the I suppressed a lot till 449 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 2: I was like seven years old, pretty much when dad 450 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 2: was gone. I thought it was normal that people's memories 451 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 2: don't start like till then, Like, but people, I know, 452 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 2: I talked to people and they remember being babies. Edward, 453 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 2: our old producer, said this, swear to god, he remembers 454 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 2: being born Like that's crazy, which I don't think that's 455 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 2: necessarily true. But my ship doesn't start so all out 456 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 2: with seven and then like I didn't know, Like remember 457 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 2: when I got in When I became a teenager, I 458 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 2: got really into basketball again and it's been my favorite 459 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 2: sword ever since. I thought that that happened because I 460 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 2: got close with Red, but I'd always had that love. 461 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 2: I didn't know I played when I was younger. Yeah, 462 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 2: I did, so it could have been because of that, 463 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: but it's part of a memory that I suppressed and 464 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 2: pushed back. That's what I'm interested in. I'll be down 465 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 2: to do like hypnotism and just see what. 466 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: To see what happened. I don't know, dude. 467 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 2: That's because I don't know. I might have to do dad, 468 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 2: or I don't really know, you know. 469 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: Because at first it was Max, yeah, because of the dog. 470 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: Because of the dog. We had a dog named rock 471 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: Roller named Max. So he was like, I want to 472 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 1: be I want my name to be maximm was like, okay, 473 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 1: you don't want your name to be Trinidad. We won't 474 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: call you Trinidad. What do you want? I want Max? 475 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: And then after it was Michael. 476 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and now the dog beat me or something. I 477 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 2: was like fuck Max, but yeah, yeah, but Mike. For me, 478 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 2: what I associated with is is Michaelangelo the Ninja Turtle. 479 00:19:58,160 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 1: And I didn't know, like love that. 480 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 2: I don't know at the time that they were all 481 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 2: named after Renaissance artists. Like I just thought he was cool. 482 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 2: He's always cracking. He was like the funny one, hating 483 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 2: pizza and riding a skateboard and like kicking and ass 484 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 2: like that's what I want to be. And I'm like, so, yeah, 485 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 2: there's people think that, so Michael Jordan and it kick. 486 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, I was like, I didn't even know my 487 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 2: middle name was Angela my whole life. Yeah, it just 488 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 2: happened to just happened to work. 489 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's perfect. See Michael angel I love. That's my 490 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: favorite Ninja turtle. By the way, now that we're on 491 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: this topic, let's talk a little bit about your last name. 492 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: Our last name. I carry Marine. I never really wanted 493 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 1: to change it. We've never really talked about this because 494 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 1: it's a big thing, the whole Rivera thing, and like 495 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: how I don't use Cheeky's Rivera And that's not because 496 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: it's like I hate the last name. Obviously, I want 497 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: to honor my mother, but I feel that there's other 498 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: ways that I can honor her than to like change 499 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: my last name or use the last name or not 500 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: use it. But mom did, and she did ask us 501 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: before she passed, maybe like a year or two years, 502 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, Okay, she she had kind of like 503 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 1: mentioned that why don't you guys change your last name? 504 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: Why don't you guys change it to Rivera? And I remember, 505 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: even when she was here, I would tell her, I'm like, 506 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: I like my last name. I'm like, no matter what 507 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: my dad did, like, I like Marine and I don't 508 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: necessarily want to be a Rivera. But how do you 509 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 1: feel because now you're going to change your last name legally. 510 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 2: Right, I think? And with you, it's kind of like 511 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 2: it's like like I said, with Thrin Dad, it's it's 512 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 2: like owning it. It's like that's, yeah, whatever is before 513 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 2: this point doesn't matter. That's your last name, you know. Yeah, 514 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 2: and not for much longer. 515 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, true, true. 516 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 2: But but I mean so I understand that. I think 517 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 2: it's different because we're you know, I you know, I'm 518 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 2: a male, So I carry I give on. You know, 519 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 2: it's true the last name. And it's like, okay, Luna 520 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 2: already has Marine and when it came with the second baby, 521 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 2: it's like, do I want to is that the name 522 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 2: I want to push? It was like no, Like I'm like, 523 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 2: I'm my mom's child and I'm carrying on her name 524 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 2: and like whatever attached to it. Because even if you 525 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 2: think about it, like there are people that will say, oh, 526 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 2: they're not actually Rivera's whatever. It's a name, who cares, 527 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 2: you know, But even like even if it's like not 528 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 2: being if even if it's attached from this certain group 529 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 2: of people, now like that was detected. We never knew 530 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 2: any of the riveras in in cho you know, none 531 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 2: of us know them. We know that we don't like that. Yeah, okay, 532 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 2: that's grandpa's name and that's fine, and like, you know, 533 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 2: the mom's carried on his legacy, but I'm carrying on 534 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 2: my mother's and in my own way. 535 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: And it makes sense. You know, we've never talked about this, 536 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: by the way, this is the first time. 537 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 2: It was kind of I think we were at odds 538 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 2: and we're like, we're not having this conversation. 539 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: We're kind of like, hold up because there was a 540 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: lot going on. But now that you're explaining to me, 541 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense. Absolutely, You're you're the man, 542 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: and like you're honoring your mother and you want so 543 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: are you changing Luna's last name too? 544 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, And she's actually she wants her name to 545 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 2: be hyphenated, so she wants her she wants her mom's 546 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 2: last name. Yeah. And she even shows the order or whatever. 547 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 2: It's Rivera, I Barro. I was like, like, phonetically bar 548 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 2: Rivera sounds better. She's like, no, I want it like that, Dad, Okay, 549 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 2: And she's super excited about it because she she's in 550 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 2: her like her fan stage right now. She's been for 551 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 2: a long time. 552 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like listening to mom's music and everything. She 553 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: listens to my music. 554 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 2: She's like, I want to meet I want to meet 555 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 2: my my uncle Lupe. And I'm like, what that's so random, 556 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 2: like just because like, I mean, nothing against my deal, 557 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 2: but we just haven't you know, he's been out his 558 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: way for a long time. You know, we had we 559 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 2: were at odds. I think when I was younger because 560 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 2: of how I viewed things. Yeah, so I mean and 561 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 2: I against him, but it was yeah, I don't care 562 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 2: like that, but I just you know, it's it's just 563 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 2: like it's when she did it, when she asked me 564 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 2: out of nowhere. I'm just like Okay, like why might 565 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 2: Luca of all of them? 566 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 1: But you know that little girl has a total mind 567 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: of her own. And I love that you and her 568 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: mom like you guys, You guys embraced that, like you 569 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: allow her to be here, like like show her individuality. 570 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: And I love that because instead of you getting upset 571 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: because there's certain things that Luna is his oldest daughter, guys, 572 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: and he has a little baby, he has two girls, 573 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: and you're and we'll talk about you being a dad. 574 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: But you sent a video in the group chat of 575 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 1: her or I think you posted it on Instagram of 576 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: her talking about what her future husband was going to 577 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: look like, Oh yeah, dude, and you were just like, yeah, 578 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: tell me, and she was telling you what that she 579 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 1: wanted him tall, dark and hands so yeah yeah, and 580 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: she said she wanted tattoos and jet black hair. 581 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. She's always but she's always known who she is. 582 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 583 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 2: Remember really early on I stopped choosing her. 584 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,479 Speaker 1: Clothes for her, like yeah, and you just let her. 585 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 2: She's like, she wasn't happy in the little t shirts 586 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 2: and little jeggings I was picking for her, and she 587 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 2: wanted to wear this ridiculous fucking trolls wig and like 588 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 2: a shirt, a skirt and like two different socks because 589 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 2: they had different colors, and. 590 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: Like, you know, like I love it. 591 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 2: And I of course, like most guys that you know, 592 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 2: when you find out you're having a baby so soon 593 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 2: and you know it's gonna he's gonna do all the 594 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 2: things that I like and doing. Fuck that Luna came out. 595 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 2: She's like, no, I'm a girl. I don't know nothing 596 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 2: about this, but you better learn. I still can't do 597 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 2: her hair, but thank god, she's like she's just. 598 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: Like like I like my hair down and I don't 599 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: don't don't touch what she's getting. 600 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 2: Back into styles and oh yeah, she's always known who 601 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 2: she is. And I'm like, and I just loved seeing 602 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 2: that it's come out because she was nonverbal till she 603 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 2: was four, and like, yeah, so even on days where 604 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 2: she's just like bombarding me like with questions and just 605 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 2: talking to me and being goofy, right now, she's in 606 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 2: her you know. I I I was like, damn, is 607 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 2: there something wrong with me? Because she's a lot to 608 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 2: handle right now sometimes. But it's like I was remember 609 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 2: how annoying I was at like fucking at like eleven 610 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 2: years old. She just wants to be funny, and like 611 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 2: she's learning how to make jokes and you know, she 612 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily know how jokes work, and so it's a 613 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 2: lot and sometimes it's not sensical, and I don't know 614 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 2: what to say. But I'm like, that's a lot better 615 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 2: than me when I was eleven purposely trying to get 616 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 2: on people's nerves and yeah, being a little bitch. Dude, 617 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 2: Like I'm sorry, I don't know for a lot. 618 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: Of Yeah, you can say bitch and and all that. 619 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: But like, you know, like, and so right now she's 620 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 2: in that phase. And so even in moments where I'm 621 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 2: a little overwhelmed, I'm like, dude, this is way better 622 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 2: than I thought she was gonna be non verbal her 623 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 2: whole life. I have no reason, yeah to. 624 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: Believe she's thriving right now. Yeah, and she talks about 625 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 1: and she's so smart and has an amazing memory like 626 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: her grandmother. 627 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think she's gonna be okay. And like my 628 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 2: biggest thing is, uh, is you know, just anything that 629 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 2: she wants to do, whether it's she wants to go 630 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 2: away for college, she wants her own apartment, she wants 631 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 2: a purple Honda, she so she knows she wants to, 632 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 2: you know, be a nail tech, she wants to do hair, 633 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 2: she wants to be an actress, a singer, and who 634 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 2: are we to say that she can't do all these things? 635 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 2: R you know, Like obviously I just want to let 636 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 2: her explore things. And obviously me and her mom have 637 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 2: always been very guarded guarded over her as far as 638 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 2: you know, So I don't necessarily want her making a 639 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 2: TikTok right now or open YouTube page. But do I 640 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 2: want her to, like if we get her in the 641 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 2: studio so she could record something that would be like 642 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 2: the best, you know, like she wants. 643 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: To express herself because she writes so and she writes things. 644 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: And I think that you guys, I love that. I 645 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: love how you and her mom have like just embraced 646 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: it and let her just be, which I think is awesome. 647 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: And I was talking about you as a parent. I 648 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: remember specifically when I one time I will tell you, like, 649 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: you're so I'm so proud of you. I'm so proud 650 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: of you for the dad that you are and You're like, 651 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: what I'm just doing like what I'm supposed to do, 652 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: you know, And I and when you said that to me, 653 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: I was like, shit, I guess so, but I guess 654 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: I was saying more of like I'm proud of you 655 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: because you weren't you didn't have your dad in your life, 656 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like he was absent, and 657 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: the fact that it's just you're just such a great dad. 658 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 1: Like I try. I mean, I really are. 659 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 2: I think I'm overly critical in myself and everything, but 660 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 2: that's the only way I know how to operate. So 661 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 2: it's like I take everything with the grain of salt, 662 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 2: and then a lot of times I just feel like 663 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 2: because so many it was more common for my friends 664 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 2: growing up to not have their dad around. Yeah, and 665 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 2: you know, like yeah, and I didn't, you know, I 666 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 2: didn't think it was like it was kind of weird 667 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 2: that when I would go to my wife friend's Houston, 668 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 2: Narca and they had a full family or whatever, it 669 00:27:59,080 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 2: was cool. 670 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit, like this is same. 671 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 2: But most of my friends didn't have their dads growing up, 672 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 2: and like I think we all like that's we thought 673 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,360 Speaker 2: that that was a normal thing. Yeah, and some of us, 674 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 2: some of us are like, you know, not not us, 675 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,199 Speaker 2: because I don't associate with dudes that, you know, like 676 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 2: if you have your kids and you're a bump ass, 677 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 2: you know you're not you don't spend I can't get 678 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 2: enough time with Luna, you know what I'm saying, Like, 679 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 2: you know, so we actually take pride of that in 680 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,719 Speaker 2: our generation, or you're the type of person like, oh, 681 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 2: I didn't have adet, so I don't have to be 682 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 2: around it, and I can't. I can't. That can never 683 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 2: be an excuse. And it's I think a lot of 684 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 2: people you get props for just being around, and for 685 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 2: me that's not enough either, Like that's you know, it's 686 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 2: not just like yeah, well no, most people's dads aren't around, 687 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 2: so good job for just being there, you know. And 688 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: I try not to like pat myself on the back 689 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: for that too much because. 690 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: I just be like I'm a provider and I get 691 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: you what you need. It's like, yeah, like there's. 692 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 2: Way more to being a parent, you know, like than that. 693 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 2: And with Nova, it's a it's a second chance to 694 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 2: start again. 695 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: Okay, guys, wait, we're running a little bit out of time, well, 696 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: well run out of time, so we're just gonna leave 697 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: the second part of our conversation for tomorrow, so tune 698 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: in tomorrow because we're gonna, you know, talk about a 699 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: little bit more. 700 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 2: Well, Mikey come out of the closet. 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