1 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Brother two Times. So, guys, 2 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: if you don't know who my brother is, this is Mikey. 3 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: This is my little big brother. Okay, thank you for 4 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: coming to my podcast. Finally, Yes, but you make. 5 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: It seem like I didn't want to be part of it. 6 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: And then when I was on Jenica's you're like all jelly. 7 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 3: Belly, jelly belly, but your requested subject is very important. Yes, 8 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 3: but I wasn't. He wasn't. I'm still not ready. I guess. 9 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: I think we'll talk about my reasoning behind all that 10 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: stuff today. But because I don't, I know you love me. 11 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: I know if we're, if we're, if we got pickles 12 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 2: with each other, that's abone to pick with each other. 13 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: A pickle with me? 14 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the pickle? This sign? Oh okay, it's cute. Yeah, 15 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 3: I'm sure they got to here quick. I'm Jenica. 16 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: She waited a year, but yes, so talking about Jenica 17 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: because okay, guys, Jenica has been on the podcast, Jackie 18 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: has been on the podcast, and Mikey has it. John 19 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: has been here a couple of times as well, and 20 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 1: talking about Jenica. Look at his sweater, you guys, okay, 21 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: it's over comfort. 22 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 3: Look at him. 23 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: He comes to my podcast wearing his favorite sisters because 24 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: Jennica is his favorite sister. Yes or no, don't lie. 25 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 3: I don't have a favorite. She's my only little sister. 26 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: Okay, that's true. He has two big sisters. That makes sense. 27 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 3: That's okay. 28 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 1: Jennica is awesome, so. 29 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 3: She's a best But yeah, and then this is also 30 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 3: I wanted to come like decent, and. 31 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: I know it was very hand separately. 32 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is like everything else has paint on it 33 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 3: right now. 34 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: The color coordination. 35 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 3: I like laundry every week now though. 36 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm so proud. So are you separating the whites? Yeah, 37 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: but I don't have very much white okay, okay, but 38 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: please separate the whites. 39 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I do. 40 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: I separate and I even I even, I like, I've 41 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 2: started to use the bleach. But like you know, I mean, 42 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: I'm a black shirt kind of guy. 43 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: Yeah you are. 44 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 3: I don't for white shirts. 45 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I always have paint on everything. Talking about paint, 46 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: because we got to let them know what you're all about. Okay. 47 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: Mikey has his own own company. 48 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: It's called Boss Graphics and my bigger LLC or is 49 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: a moonlight sign code? And that's that was my first 50 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: company and absorbed the company that I've been working at 51 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: for a while now, and it's going really well. It's 52 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: been this past year has been a big challenge, and 53 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: thank you for being there. 54 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 3: You're always I think. 55 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: There's no such thing as a dumb question, but there 56 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 2: is dumb questions. And I'm so glad that I can 57 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 2: call you and I don't ever have to feel like 58 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: bad about asking a stupid question because you've lived through 59 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 2: most things, or at least have some level of experience, 60 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: especially when it comes to business. So I have you 61 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,839 Speaker 2: as a lifeline, and I know, like we don't see 62 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: each other as much as we'd like. Yeah, you're such 63 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 2: a big part of you know, what I'm doing now, 64 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: and so thank. 65 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: You for that. Oh you're welcome, brother. Oh my god, dude, 66 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: we're about I think we're going to cry about it. 67 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 3: We do. Yeah. 68 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: So a mirror list and a sign painter and and 69 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: just a guy just trying to get better at his art. 70 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're doing great, because that's what he was saying. 71 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: The pickle that he had to pick with me is 72 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,399 Speaker 1: the fact that he didn't make my sign. I didn't 73 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: ask him to make my sign because he made Jennica 74 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: sign for her podcast over Comfort, and that's why he's like, 75 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: what the heck, But it's for METSI. I mean, I 76 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: didn't have anyone else do it. 77 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: No, you're about this, and I would have lagged a 78 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: little bit, but it's okay. I have ideas now, so 79 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 2: next season that might look a little different. 80 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: Oh I love that. Okay, you guys heard it here, 81 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: so you guys he said it. Yes, he's a man 82 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: of his word and going back to his business because 83 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: I think Mom would be very proud, because Mom was 84 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,399 Speaker 1: all about, like, whatever you're passionate about, whatever that may be, 85 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: you freaking do it and you do be the best 86 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: at it, Mikey, And he said, Okay, if we talk 87 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: about this about your love for graffiti and how you 88 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: would do it illegally, whatever, you want to talk to me, okay, 89 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: Because he would freaking stress me out. Because I was 90 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: his supporter, I was like, Okay, if this is what 91 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: he likes to do, I don't necessarily agree hundred percent 92 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: because it's like, you know, he's doing this illegally and 93 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: he would hang you guys off of bridges and shit 94 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: doing graffiti and I'd be like, oh my, he said, 95 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: Oh I was hanging off. 96 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: That freaking BRIDGEI what But you would imagine it like 97 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: me hanging off I'm not that strong. 98 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 3: It's like there's a footing, there's it's a weird space. 99 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 3: I shouldn't be okay there, but it's dangerous. Are you 100 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 3: going to tell everybody that used to take me? 101 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, I used to take them. 102 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 3: Was a handful of times. 103 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 2: Jackie was my was my ride or jack like she 104 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 2: took me bombing a lot, like, yeah, my first era 105 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 2: of being prolific had a lot to do with Jackie. 106 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: But you take me to Jackie, so. 107 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 3: Each other she is implicated in fifteen year old crime. 108 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 3: Oh shit, more than that, dude, come up on. Wow, yeah, 109 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 3: my brother, are you thirty you're gonna be thirty three? Jesus? 110 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: Oh your Jesus here, I say, dan full for really. Yeah, 111 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: you're going to resurrect in good way? 112 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, being reborn. 113 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, reborn. But so I love the fact that you 114 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: did exactly what I wanted, came and became and now 115 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: a business and you're a CEO and a business owner. 116 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: And I know that that's president. President I don't know why. 117 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 2: I feel like he was like anytime somebody like starts 118 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: their little like T shirt company or whatever, it's like 119 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: they want to throw like president sounds better for me. 120 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 3: I don't know why. 121 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that anyway, Mike you for president? Well 122 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: he is a president, okay, So I think. 123 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 3: She would be proud. I think. 124 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 2: So that's kind of like my biggest like thing is 125 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: she didn't really get to see a better version of me, 126 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: because I'm still not like the best version of myself 127 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: that I can be and that I'm striving to be. 128 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: But she didn't get to see me like okay because 129 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: it stressed her out a lot too, you know. And 130 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 2: and she and like to her credit, she never once 131 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: said like I remember the day that she like first 132 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: confronted me about it, and like, you know, like she 133 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 2: was never like don't do that, you know, like they 134 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 2: were like, at least don't do it this way, do 135 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 2: it the right way. Of course, I have to do 136 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 2: it in my own way. But so she was stressed out, 137 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: and I didn't believe I was going to turn it 138 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: into anything for a long time because that wasn't really 139 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 2: the point of it. Yeah, it was kind of more 140 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 2: of a to develop a sense of identity, and yeah, 141 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: that's kind of it's kind of it's it's led through 142 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 2: a lot of things, for good or bad, like of 143 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 2: who I am now, and it's been part of my journey. 144 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 2: So I'm like super grateful for it, but I think 145 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 2: I I might be past it, yeah, like mentally, yeah, 146 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 2: I mean right now anyways, just like I don't like 147 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: I don't have the same love for it. And I'm like, 148 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 2: I'm okay, I'm going through a part of my life 149 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 2: where things are you know, it's okay to accept the 150 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: things come to an end and things don't have to 151 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 2: be the same way forever. And even if it's something 152 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: that you feel like, well, this is all I've ever known, 153 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,119 Speaker 2: like and that shit, it's really hard, Like I almost 154 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 2: want to cry right now, just because it's all I've 155 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 2: known and like for so many years. 156 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 3: I've part of your life. 157 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've only associated with certain type of people, and 158 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 2: now that I'm trying to live my life on the 159 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 2: right path, I realized they haven't always been the best people. 160 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: A lot of you know, a lot of my friends 161 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 2: are guys looking with good and there's a few gems 162 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: in there. That are really guys that are really pushing 163 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: themselves forward. But for the most part, it's like holding 164 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 2: me back. And now I'm at a point where it's 165 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: like it's it's it's it's doue or die time right 166 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 2: now with you know, with the company and like really better. 167 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 3: In myself, super focused and if. 168 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it is just not serving me anymore, and 169 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: it's it's hard to say, you know, because I don't 170 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: you know me, I'm like, uh, I like the artistic 171 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: part of graffiti, like, oh, it's an awesome mural, look 172 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: at all the colors and all that. But I like 173 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: the illegal aspect of it in the Russia and the 174 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: fucking being scared shitless, like I shouldn't be doing this. 175 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 2: I shouldn't be fucking over here off of the side 176 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: of the freeway. And then I get home and I'm 177 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: looking at my pictures and that's the best sleep in 178 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: my whole life, where it's. 179 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 3: Crazy like that rushful. Yeah. And it's not just because 180 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: of that. 181 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 2: There's just like I don't know if there's something to 182 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: take in public space back, Like I feel like we're 183 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: kind of bombarded with like buy this by this billboards 184 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: and signage and all this shit every everywhere. It's like, okay, 185 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: and because of you. I would never write on businesses 186 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: like small businesses or like people's property or anything like that. 187 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 3: But if it's. 188 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: Corporate, if it's on the side of the freeway, it's 189 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: it's like a little power box or something, whatever the 190 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: hell it is. It's like that's visually that's mine too, 191 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: you know, Like that's how I used to feel. I 192 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: don't necessarily I've grown up a little bit and it's 193 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: like that's not really how the world works. 194 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: But that's what I was tell them. If you're going 195 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: to do it, just do it like where it's like 196 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: it's not going to like disturb anybody or upset anyone. Well, 197 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: it have upset certain people, but whatever, I mean, I 198 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: definitely I supported you and it made you happy. I 199 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: would pray for you all the time. I'm like, God, 200 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: please take care of them. And I get that rush 201 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: thing because when I used to sneak out to go 202 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: to the races over there in Compton, it was just like, dude, 203 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to do this, but this is so fun. 204 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 3: It's more brazen about sneaking out of me. Dude. I 205 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 3: would never like hop out of the taking mom's car. Dude, 206 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 3: I was crazy. 207 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: We got to talk about that one day. I did. 208 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 3: And then did you try to drive backwards to reverse 209 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 3: the mileage? 210 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: Yes, stupid dude. 211 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, all yes I did. Sure, it's all good. It's 212 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 4: all good because I must have been like sixteen years old. 213 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 4: I didn't have my license yet. Fifteen, Yeah, I was younger. No, 214 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 4: for sure, I did not have my license. 215 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was very risk take her to the fullest, 216 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: d especially with the type of mom we had. I'm like, dude, 217 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: what the hell was I thinking? 218 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: No, for real, and like. 219 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: We I don't even think she knew later until yeah, 220 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: I think she. 221 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: I think you did say it, and I'm pretty sure 222 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 2: we had the conversation at some point and at that 223 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: point she's just. 224 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: Like like, well, yeah, okay, yeah, you know, yeah it's 225 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: crazy dude. 226 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 227 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: Anyways, Well, I'm I think what's happening in your life, 228 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: and I see it clearly is that, like, I don't know, 229 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: you're being very and I love using this word you 230 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: on the podcast, but you're very intentional right now. It's 231 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: like you know, it's like I want to be the 232 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 1: best I want to be the best person. I want 233 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: like you're doing things with intent and I see it. 234 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 2: And I've always you know, me and my whole life, 235 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 2: I've been very nonchalant. Yeah, and it's kind of worked 236 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: for me. Like yeah, it's like, I mean, I've never 237 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: been a guy with the plan, and I've never been 238 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 2: like I need this to happen in the world for 239 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: me to be Okay. I think I've always been a journey, 240 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 2: not the destination. Yes, And I'm still very much enjoying 241 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 2: my journey, even on days when it's not fun, even 242 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 2: on days when I'm really stressed out and you know, 243 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 2: like I'm responsible for people's lives, like you know, like 244 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 2: and their family and they're they're and feeding their kids 245 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 2: and stuff and that, so that all rays on me. 246 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: So but even on those days, I'm like, I appreciate it, 247 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 2: like you know what, because it's like I get to 248 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 2: when I do make payroll, you know, and we do, 249 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, But when we do make payroll, that. 250 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 3: Shit feels good when it goes through. 251 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 2: And like when I know I have work plan like planned, 252 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 2: it's like I'm putting my people on. 253 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 3: And so I'm so proud of you, dude. I forgot 254 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 3: what the no. But I'm so proud of you. 255 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: I'm proud of you because I'm listening to I hear 256 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: you speak and I'm just like, I've always You've always 257 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 1: been such an intelligent boy having to fight. 258 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: It properly, and it's like, just imagine what I could 259 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 2: do that. That was the point where it's just like 260 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 2: I haven't ever really had a plan. It's like the 261 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 2: Joker says in the Batman movie, and just like a 262 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: dog chasing cars and like if I ever caught a car, 263 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 2: I not know what to do with it. But like 264 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 2: now it's just like and it's worked out well, But 265 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 2: I can't keep testing my luck because I have a 266 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: lot of it has to do with them and it's 267 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: twenty because I'm not I'm. 268 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 3: The least like that of all you guys. 269 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe in that heavy that mom in one 270 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 2: way or another, is it looks out for me and 271 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 2: she's you know, pushing positions to succeed or she's saved 272 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: my ass and when I put myself in dumb situations 273 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 2: and I'm like. 274 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: I really believe that. I feel like she has saved 275 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: your ass a lot. 276 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 2: And that luck is only going to run out for 277 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 2: so long, and it's like, Okay, it's time to have 278 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: a plan now, and it's time to want more and 279 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 2: like see what you can do then, Like you know, 280 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 2: it's like I feel like, despite myself, I've been able 281 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: to make something in myself and now it's like, what 282 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 2: can happen if I stop getting in. 283 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 3: My own way? You know, like nice's due because no. 284 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: Can't nobody hold you back, but you yeah, absolutely absolutely, 285 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm telling you, I freaking love my siblings. 286 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: I always learn from them, and I'm just like I 287 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: love listening to them. I love to listen to you 288 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: guys speak because you guys are fucking like we dropping 289 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: like little like nuggets, which is those little gems like 290 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: today what you're saying about, Prince. I was listening Prince 291 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: all morningful because you know me too this morn in 292 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: the group. 293 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 5: Child, I was just like, hell, yeah, I'm glad we 294 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 5: have that like too, because there was like a lot 295 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 5: of people that I find it so weird when people 296 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 5: are like, oh, I don't talk to my sister or 297 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 5: like you know, or we don't really have a relationship 298 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 5: or we didn't really grow up close, and that's so 299 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 5: now that I'm older, I try. 300 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: Not to judge because everybody's raised differently, and everybody goes 301 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 2: through their own journeys, and people perceive other people's actions differently, 302 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 2: so I can't be like, always forgive your siblings. But 303 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 2: I'm so glad that I'm like I'm over here on 304 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 2: my well, I. 305 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 3: Think it was before my bike ride. 306 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 2: I was getting ready and I was like, I was, 307 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: you know, just flipping through YouTube and I'm like, oh, 308 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 2: that sounds interesting and like there was like some really 309 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: good stuff in them. And I was like, and I'm 310 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: glad I can, like I have someone to send that to. 311 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 2: And then we all had a conversation about it was great. 312 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 3: We even we're good at that. We talked about Purple 313 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 3: Rain and you know that's your prince. 314 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: Is my father, you know, because I don't know if 315 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: I've shared this before, I'm pretty sure I have. But 316 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: I was conceived in a Monta Carlo at the drive in, 317 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: like the movie drive in Thinkies or whatever. Listened to 318 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: my mom. I guess you always told me this that 319 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: she was They were listening to Purple Rain, so I 320 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: was called Prince mat Patherno. So we were talking about that. 321 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: We were having all this dialogue. It was really awesome. 322 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: And I've shared with you guys that are that. 323 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 3: You were born from pre come, so pre come. 324 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,599 Speaker 1: According to my mother, I knew that wait till the 325 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: city never finished. 326 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 3: At way too young of an age. 327 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm you know, powerful, Hey, but wait, I 328 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: don't know, because then I know Dad is my dad 329 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 1: and my biological father father because what we have the 330 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: same father obviously, but anyways, because I look just like him, right, 331 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: But I. 332 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 3: Don't know where I heard this. 333 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: I do look like Dad. 334 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm barely coming to grips that we look like 335 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 2: like that we look and now I'm like, oh, I 336 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: see mom now in my face, I'm like, shit, that's weird, 337 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 2: or even see like some of. 338 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 3: My uncles, you for sure more these days, like. 339 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: Ones that we don't one that we don't speak to. 340 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 2: So it's like I'm like, I see it like you 341 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 2: do in like the rear view mirror. I this in 342 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 2: the bridge in my nose. I'm like, oh shit, that's weird. 343 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,479 Speaker 1: But yeah, honestly it's handsome father. 344 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 3: My father, your father. I'm weirried about that word. 345 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know, I know, But how do 346 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: you feel about dad now talking about that, are you 347 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: like more open to talking to him or you're like. 348 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 3: Nah, I'm good. 349 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 2: Actually, this is something that I did do when we 350 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: were talking about, oh well, what should we talk about? 351 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: And I luckily Mom sent me to that school when 352 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 2: I was seventeen or sixteen, to the boarding school, and 353 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: that was we thought I was going away so I 354 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 2: can catch up in school. And that was the last 355 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: of their words, like we did everything on the computer 356 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: homeschooling program on the computer, but we did do seminars 357 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: and we did daily therapy and so eight months. 358 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 3: It was pretty much eight months. 359 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And in that school I had to deal 360 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 2: with And that's when when I came back, I started 361 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: going by the name because I was like I hated 362 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 2: Do you remember how angry I used to walk around 363 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: for that guy, Like how mad I was all the time. 364 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: Well, we were going through court for the whole trial thing. 365 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: Mikey actually got a little physical with my dad. 366 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 3: Yeah a lot. 367 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: I think that's one of the things people bring up 368 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: from the show a lot there, like did you really 369 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 2: beat him up? 370 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 3: I beat him up. I punched him once and they 371 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 3: got socked up by my other uncles. 372 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, by his family. 373 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, but and it was a whole rumble, but it. 374 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: Was pretty crazy, I. 375 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 2: Don't know, And that was genuine like anger. That was 376 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: like my only chance that I ever and I don't 377 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: regret that at all. Actually, Like it was like Mom 378 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 2: was mad because she was like, you need to be 379 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: representing me better and show that I raised a man 380 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 2: with self control. Yeah, and I didn't have it in 381 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 2: that moment, but I were young, but yeah, I mean, 382 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 2: and I just needed to get that out. But you 383 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 2: have anyways that because even you would tell me where 384 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: it's like, you know, I would I would speak badly 385 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: about him because of the anger that I internalized my 386 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: whole childhood. And you would be like, and I would 387 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 2: think there was something wrong with you. You're like, you 388 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 2: don't need to speak like that about him, and I'm like, 389 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: and I thought that they're you know, I was like, yeah, 390 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 2: I was like, whatever, that's just Cheeky's being Cheeky's. But 391 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: then when I went to that school in Mexico we had, 392 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: I was forced to deal with it, and it's just 393 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 2: like really like genuinely like be like, all right, I 394 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: don't have to walk around with this forever, like he's 395 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: a human. He fucking made mistakes and he still needs 396 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 2: to out, you know, to to he's he still needs 397 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: to accept it or not or whatever. But whatever that is, 398 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: that's on his own time for me, for my sake, 399 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: for the sake because the people around me, for the 400 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 2: sake of my children, I need. 401 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 3: To let that go. 402 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and see the silver lining that like whatever he 403 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 2: was as a dad, like and he wasn't there and 404 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: so I don't have that example. But I don't have 405 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 2: a clean slate. I don't have all these we have 406 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 2: generational things that you know, go on, but like as 407 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: far as dad, like, I don't got to hold onto that, 408 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 2: you know, and that doesn't have to be how I 409 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 2: carry myself with my kids and stuff. And so I 410 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 2: do when I say, I'm genuinely like no longer mad 411 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 2: at him and like no longer upset that I have 412 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 2: the same name. Like that's that that was a huge 413 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: thing for me. And like I feel like like I've 414 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 2: been told where it's like no, you just think you're 415 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: healed from it. You need to continue And it's like 416 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: that irks me. 417 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 3: It's like how can I like it? I mean you 418 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 3: tell me, Yeah. 419 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 2: Like I like genuinely do not hate the guy. But 420 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: when Jackie says, oh, he'd like to talk to him, 421 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 2: like I don't, it's. 422 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 3: A closed door. 423 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: That's something that you need to do. 424 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 2: Just there's there's so many doors ahead of me and 425 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not thinking about this one over here 426 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 2: on the right, and I don't need to see what's 427 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 2: on the other side of that. 428 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: It's okay, And. 429 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 3: It's like, you know, it sucks because it's hard, and 430 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 3: I think about Johnny in this sense a lot where 431 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 3: it's just like growing up without a man. It fucking 432 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 3: makes being a man a lot harder. We like, yeah, 433 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 3: you still got to do it. I got to do it. 434 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 3: And it's so either what am I going to do? 435 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 3: Reopen this door and like you know, or just that 436 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 3: makes sense. 437 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, because for a long time you were upset, 438 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 1: and which is why your name is Mikey. Why we 439 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: call you Mikey because he didn't want to be called Trinidad. 440 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 3: I would like to clarify that. I like you guys. 441 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 3: People call me Mikey because. 442 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 2: They hear the Okay, they saw the reality show and 443 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 2: like I'm with my family. 444 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 3: I like that one. 445 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: Now it's growing on me, like, you know, amongst you guys, 446 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 2: I am Mikey, but now like as a grown ass 447 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 2: man Mike. 448 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 3: You know, I think that people have this thing where. 449 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 2: They see it's kind of as like still the age 450 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 2: that we were back then. 451 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel like, I don't know, it's not 452 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: Mike anymore. 453 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 3: It's Mikey, it's m ighk. 454 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 2: It's not technically on my on my anywhere, it's that 455 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 2: was my name one day. 456 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so okay, so that's why his name is. 457 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: That's what we call Why did okay? I always thought 458 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: Mom told me that it was because of Michael Jordan, 459 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: but in reality is it was because of the Ninja Turtle. 460 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 3: Yes, but because he chose his name. 461 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 2: That's I didn't know the I suppressed a lot till 462 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 2: I was like seven years old, pretty much. 463 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 3: When dad was gone. 464 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 2: I thought it was normal that people's memories don't start 465 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 2: like till then, Like, but people, I know, I talked 466 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 2: to people and they remember being babies. Edward, our old producer, 467 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 2: said this, swear to god, he remembers being born Like 468 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 2: that's crazy, which I don't think that's necessarily true. But 469 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 2: my ship doesn't start so all out with seven, and 470 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: then like I didn't know, Like remember when I got 471 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 2: in When I became a teenager, I got really into 472 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 2: basketball again and it's been my favorite sword ever since. 473 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 2: I thought that that happened because I got close with Red, 474 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 2: but I'd always had that love. I didn't know I 475 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 2: played when I was younger. Yeah, I did, so it 476 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 2: could have been because of that, but it's part of 477 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 2: a memory that I suppressed and pushed back. That's what 478 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 2: I'm interested in. I'll be down to do like hypnotism 479 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 2: and just see what. 480 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: To see what happened. 481 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 3: I don't know, dude. That's because I don't know. I 482 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 3: might have to do dad, or I don't really know, 483 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 3: you know. 484 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: Because at first it was Max, yeah, because of the dog. 485 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: Because of the dog. We had a dog named rock 486 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: Roller named Max. So he was like, I want to 487 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 1: be I want my name to be maximm was like, okay, 488 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: you don't want your name to be Trindad. 489 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 3: We won't call you Trinidad. What do you want? 490 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: I want Max? And then after it was Michael. 491 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and now the dog beat me or something. 492 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 2: I was like, fuck Max, but yeah, yeah, but Mike. 493 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 2: For me, what I associated with is is Michaelangelo the 494 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 2: Ninja Turtle. 495 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 3: And I didn't know, like love that. I don't know 496 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 3: at the. 497 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 2: Time that they were all named after Renaissance artists. Like 498 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 2: I just thought he was cool. He's always cracking. 499 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was like the funny one, hating. 500 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 2: Pizza and riding a skateboard and like kicking ass, Like 501 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 2: that's what I want to be. And I'm like, so, yeah, 502 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 2: there's people think that, so Michael Jordan and it kick. 503 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, I was like, I didn't even know my 504 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 2: middle name was Angela my whole life. Yeah, it just 505 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 2: happened to just happened to work. 506 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's perfect. See Michael angel I love. That's my 507 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: favorite Ninja turtle. By the way, now that we're on 508 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: this topic, let's talk a little bit about your last name. 509 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: Our last name. I carry Marine. I never really wanted 510 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 1: to change it. We've never really talked about this because 511 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 1: it's a big thing, the whole Rivera thing, and like 512 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: how I don't use Cheeky's Rivera And that's not because 513 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: it's like I hate the last name. Obviously, I want 514 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: to honor my mother, but I feel that there's other 515 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: ways that I can honor her than to like change 516 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: my last name or use the last name or not 517 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: use it. But mom did, and she did ask us 518 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: before she passed, maybe like a year or two years, 519 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, Okay, she she had kind of like 520 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 1: mentioned that why don't you guys change your last name? 521 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: Why don't you guys change it to Rivera? And I remember, 522 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: even when she was here, I would tell her, I'm like, 523 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: I like my last name. Mo, I'm like, no matter 524 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: what my dad did, like, I like Marine and I 525 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: don't necessarily want to be a Rivera. But how do 526 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: you feel because now you're going to change your last 527 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 1: name legally. 528 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 3: Right, I think? 529 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 2: And with you, it's kind of like it's like like 530 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 2: I said, with Thrin Dad, it's it's like owning it. 531 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 2: It's like that's, yeah, whatever is before this point doesn't matter. 532 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 2: That's your last name, you know. Yeah, and not for 533 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 2: much longer. 534 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, true, true. 535 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 2: But but I mean so I understand that. I think 536 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 2: it's different because we're you know, I you know, I'm 537 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 2: a male, so I carry I give on. You know, 538 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 2: it's true the last name. And it's like, okay, Luna 539 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 2: already has Marine, and when it came with the second baby, 540 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 2: it's like do I want to is that the name 541 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 2: I want to push? It was like no, Like I'm like, 542 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 2: I'm my mom's child and I'm carrying on her name 543 00:21:59,520 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 2: and like. 544 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 3: Whatever attached to it. 545 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: Because even if you think about it, like there are 546 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 2: people that will say, oh, they're not actually Rivera's whatever. 547 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 2: They it's a name, who cares, you know, But even 548 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 2: like even if it's like not being even if it's 549 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 2: attached from the certain group of people. 550 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 3: Now like that was detected. We never knew any of 551 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 3: the Riveras in in cho you know, none of us 552 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 3: know them. We know that we don't like that. 553 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's grandpa's name and that's fine, and like, 554 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 2: you know, the mom's carried on his legacy, but I'm 555 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 2: carrying on my mother's and in my own way. 556 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 3: And it makes sense. 557 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 1: You know, we've never talked about this, by the way, 558 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: this is the first time retection. 559 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 3: It was kind of I think we were at odds 560 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 3: and we're like, we're not having this conversation. 561 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: We're kind of like, hold up because there was a 562 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: lot going on. But now that you're explaining to me, 563 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense. Absolutely, You're you're the man, 564 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: and like you're honoring your mother and you want so 565 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: are you changing Luna's last name too? 566 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? 567 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, And she's actually she wants her name to be hyphenated, 568 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 2: so she wants her she wants her mom's last name. Yeah. 569 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 2: And she even shows the order or whatever. It's Rivera, 570 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 2: I Bara. I was like, like, phonetically bar Rivera sounds better. 571 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 2: She's like, no, I want it like that, Dad, Okay. So, 572 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 2: and she's super excited about it because she she's in 573 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 2: her like her fan stage right now. 574 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 3: She's been for a long time. 575 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like listening to mom's music and everything. She 576 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: listens to my music. 577 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 2: She's like, I want to meet I want to meet 578 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 2: my my uncle Lupe. And I'm like, what that's so random, 579 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 2: like just because like, I mean, nothing against my deal, 580 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 2: but we just haven't you know, he's been out his 581 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: way for a long time. You know, we had we 582 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 2: were at odds. I think when I was younger because 583 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 2: of how I viewed things. Yeah, so I mean and 584 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 2: I against him, but it was yeah, I don't care 585 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 2: like that, but I just you know, it's it's just 586 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 2: like it's when she did it, when she asked me 587 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 2: out of nowhere, I'm just like, okay, like why might 588 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 2: Luca of all of them? 589 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 1: But you know that little girl has a total mind 590 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: of her own. And I love that you and her 591 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: mom like you guys, You guys embraced that, like you 592 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: allow her to be here, like like show her individuality. 593 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: And I love that because instead of you getting upset 594 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: because there's certain things that Luna is his oldest daughter, guys, 595 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: and he has a little baby, he has two girls, 596 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: and you're and we'll talk about you being a dad. 597 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: But you sent a video in the group chat of 598 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 1: her or I think you posted it on Instagram of 599 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: her talking about what her future husband was going to 600 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: look like Oh yeah, dude, and you were just like, yeah, 601 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: tell me, And she was telling you what that she 602 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: wanted him tall, dark and hands, yeah yeah, And she 603 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: said she wanted tattoos and jet black hair. 604 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. She's always but she's always known who she is. 605 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 606 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 3: Remember really early on, I stopped choosing her clothes for her, 607 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:33,479 Speaker 3: like yeah, and you just let her. 608 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 2: She's like, she wasn't happy in the little T shirts 609 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 2: and little jeggings I was picking for her, and she 610 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 2: wanted to wear this ridiculous, fucking trolls wig and like 611 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 2: a shirt a skirt and like two different socks because 612 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 2: they had different colors, and. 613 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 3: Like, you know, like I love it. And I of. 614 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 2: Course, like most guys that you know, when you find 615 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 2: out you're having a baby so soon and you know 616 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 2: it's gonna he's gonna do all the things that I 617 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 2: like and doing. Fuck that Luna came out. She's like, no, 618 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 2: I'm a girl. I don't know nothing about this, but 619 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 2: you better learn. I still can't do her hair, but 620 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 2: thank god, she's like she's just. 621 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: Like she's like, I like my hair down and I 622 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: don't don't don't touch what she's getting. 623 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 2: Back into styles and oh yeah, she's always known who 624 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 2: she is. And I'm like, and I just loved seeing 625 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 2: that it's come out because she was nonverbal till she 626 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 2: was four, and like, yeah, so even on days where 627 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 2: she's just like bombarding me like with questions and just 628 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 2: talking to me and being goofy, right now, she's in 629 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 2: her you know. I I I was like, damn, is 630 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 2: there something wrong with me? Because she's a lot to 631 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 2: handle right now. Sometimes but it's like I was remember 632 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 2: how annoying I was at like fucking at like eleven 633 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 2: years old. She just wants to be funny, and like 634 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 2: she's learning how to make jokes, and you know, she 635 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily know how jokes work, and so it's a 636 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 2: lot and sometimes it's not sensical, and I don't know 637 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 2: what to say. But I'm like, that's a lot better 638 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 2: than me when I was eleven purposely trying to get 639 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 2: on people's nerves and yeah, being a little bitch, dude, 640 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 2: Like I'm sorry, I don't know for a lot. 641 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: Of Yeah, you can say bitch and and all that. 642 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: But like, you know, like, and so right now she's 643 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 2: in that phase. And so even in moments where I'm 644 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 2: a little overwhelmed, I'm like, dude, this is way better 645 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 2: than I thought she was gonna be non verbal her 646 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 2: whole life. 647 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 3: I have no reason, yeah to. 648 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: Believe she's thriving right now. Yeah, and she talks about 649 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 1: and she's so smart and has an amazing memory like 650 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: her grandmother. 651 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think she's gonna be okay. 652 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 2: And like, my biggest thing is, uh, is you know, 653 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 2: just anything that she wants to do, whether it's she 654 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: wants to go away for college, she wants her own apartment, 655 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 2: she wants. 656 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 3: A purple Honda. 657 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 2: She so she knows she wants to, you know, be 658 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 2: a nail tech, she wants to do hair, she wants 659 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 2: to be an actress, a singer, and who are we 660 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 2: to say that she can't do all these things? R 661 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 2: you know, like obviously I just want to let her 662 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 2: explore things. And obviously me and her mom have always 663 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 2: been very guarded guarded over her as far as you know, 664 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,239 Speaker 2: So I don't necessarily want her making a TikTok right 665 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 2: now or open YouTube page. But do I want her to, 666 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 2: like if we get her in the studio so she 667 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 2: could record something that would be like the best, you know. 668 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: Like I think she wants to express herself because she 669 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: writes so and she writes things, and I think that 670 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: you guys, I love that. I love how you and 671 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: her mom have like just embraced it and let her 672 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: just be, which I think is awesome. And I was 673 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: talking about you as a parent. I remember specifically when 674 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 1: I one time I will tell you like, you're so 675 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm so proud of you. I'm so proud of you 676 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: for the dad that you are, and You're like, what 677 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: I'm just doing, like what I'm supposed to do, you know, 678 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: and I and when you said that to me, I 679 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: was like, shit, I guess so, but I guess I 680 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: was saying more of like I'm proud of you because 681 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: you weren't you didn't have your dad in your life, 682 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like he was absent, and 683 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: the fact that it's just you're just such a great dad. 684 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 3: Like I try. I mean, I really are. 685 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 2: I think I'm overly critical in myself and everything, but 686 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 2: that's the only way I know how to operate. So 687 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 2: it's like I take everything with the grain of salt. 688 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 2: And then a lot of times I just feel like 689 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 2: because so many it was more common for my friends 690 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 2: growing up to not have their dad around. Yeah, and 691 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 2: you know, like yeah, and I didn't, you know, I 692 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 2: didn't think it was like it was kind of weird 693 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 2: that when I would go to my wife friend's Houston, 694 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 2: Narca and they had a full family or whatever. 695 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 3: It was cool. I was like, oh shit, like this 696 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 3: is same. 697 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 2: But most of my friends didn't have their dads growing up, 698 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 2: and like I think we all like that's we thought 699 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,360 Speaker 2: that that was a normal thing. Yeah, and some of us, 700 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 2: some of us are like, you know, not not us, 701 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,199 Speaker 2: because I don't associate with dudes that, you know, like 702 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 2: if you have your kids and you're a bump ass, 703 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 2: you know you're not you don't spend I can't get 704 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 2: enough time with Luna, you know what I'm saying, Like, 705 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 2: you know, so we actually take pride of that in 706 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,719 Speaker 2: our generation, or you're the type of person like, oh, 707 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 2: I didn't have adet, so I don't have to be 708 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 2: around it, and I can't. 709 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 3: I can't. 710 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 2: That can never be an excuse. And it's I think 711 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 2: a lot of people you get props for just being 712 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 2: around and for me that's not enough either, Like that's 713 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 2: you know, it's not just like yeah, well no, most 714 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 2: people's dads aren't around, so good job for just being there, 715 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 2: you know. And I try not to like pat myself 716 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: on the back for that too much because. 717 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: I just be like, I'm a provider and I get 718 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: you what you need. 719 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, like there's. 720 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 2: Way more to being a parent, you know, like than that. 721 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 2: And with Nova, it's a it's a second chance to 722 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 2: start again. 723 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: Okay, guys, wait, we're running a little bit out of time, well, 724 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: well run out of time, so we're just gonna leave 725 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: the second part of our conversation for tomorrow, So tune 726 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: in tomorrow because we're gonna, you know, talk about a 727 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: little bit more. 728 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 3: Well, Mikey, come out of the closet. 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