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Speaker 1: Hi again, everybody on dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth podcast. The Staying Alive Staying Alive addition,

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Speaker 1: as the Bengals try to staff a two game losing

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Speaker 1: a road win in Denver coming up, Dave Lapham joins

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Speaker 1: me to discuss the latest Bengals news involving Trey Hendrickson,

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Speaker 1: Riley Reef and others, and look ahead to Sunday's game

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Speaker 1: in the Mile High City. My one on one player

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Speaker 1: interview is with safety Ricardo Allen, who shares his process

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Speaker 1: for dealing with a gut wrenching loss and describes why

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Speaker 1: it is so freaking hard to cover. George Kittle with

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Speaker 1: two touchdown catches last week, Jamar Chase broke the Bengals

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Speaker 1: rookie record for receiving tds with ten and I'll speak

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Speaker 1: to the legend whose record he broke, the sensational Isaac Curtis,

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Speaker 1: and finally, in our Know the Faux segment, we'll take

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Speaker 1: an in depth look at the Broncos with Mike Kliss,

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Speaker 1: beginning with my broadcast partner Dave Lapham Lapp in more

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Speaker 1: than forty years in the NFL as a player a broadcaster,

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Speaker 1: do you ever remember a year where it seems like

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Speaker 1: every team is so close to five hundred? I really don't, Dan,

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Speaker 1: I really don't. I mean, it's like by now the

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Speaker 1: years where they were like, you know, maybe five or

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Speaker 1: six teams still in the hunt with a month ago,

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Speaker 1: how is it going to sort out? But you know,

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Speaker 1: to have a dozen you know in the AFC alone

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Speaker 1: still in the playoff picture. Like we said a few times,

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Speaker 1: this is an early Christmas for the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: This is what Santa they were hoping Santa might deliver.

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Speaker 1: Everybody is in the hunt. The interest is probably in

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Speaker 1: an all time high. It's the perfect storm for the

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Speaker 1: National Football League. We got quite a bit of injury

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Speaker 1: last week he's down on the turf, they call for

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Speaker 1: But I think I think Irwin. The thing that Irwin

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Speaker 1: practice glad to return kicks. Yeah, he's really struggled, you know,

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Speaker 1: the last game that he that he did it, and

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Speaker 1: almost something that you can track. It's it's it's that simple.

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Speaker 1: If you take care of the football, you have a

427
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Speaker 1: hell of a chance to win in the football game.

428
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Speaker 1: If you don't, you're in trouble. How do you broadcast

429
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: at high altitude? That is strength, I will I will say, though,

430
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Speaker 1: you know, I remember the first time we played there

431
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Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy five and beat them there, and then

432
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Speaker 1: I was ten in a row going out there to Denver.

433
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 1: And in twenty seventeen the Bengals broke that streak and

434
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Speaker 1: one out there. But I remember the first time I

435
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Speaker 1: went out there. It was first year as a starter,

436
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Speaker 1: and it was kind of early early in h in

437
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Speaker 1: the season and playing against Randy Gratis Shaw and Rulon

438
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Speaker 1: Jones and Ruben Carter and all these guys, and man,

439
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 1: I am geeked man and I'm running around and have

440
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 1: the adrenaliner. It wasn't like I was couldn't breathe, but

441
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 1: you do get winded faster, so you just have to

442
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 1: you have to make a little bit of an adjustment,

443
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Speaker 1: but you can't dwell on it. You can't let it

444
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 1: get in your head. There's no there's no question about it.

445
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Speaker 1: But yeah, it'll be. And we're up higher, we're even

446
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: we were a few year yards higher in our booth

447
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Speaker 1: and they're on field level. It's five thousand, two and

448
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Speaker 1: eighty feet, but I don't know how many couple hundred

449
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Speaker 1: feet there. I mean we're five thousand, four hundred and

450
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Speaker 1: eighty feet, not two eighty. It will be light headed, really, really,

451
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Speaker 1: it'll be. Huh, it's gonna be. It'll be. It'll be fun.

452
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Speaker 1: I do remember this is in the old stadium now.

453
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 1: It was this old rickety wooden press box. And those

454
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: fans rocked and they would do the sway and stuff.

455
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: It's like, man, the boots started moving. Literally it would

456
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Speaker 1: feel it would move like an inch or two. It

457
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,360
Speaker 1: was crazy. It would actually rock. We'd be holy mackerel,

458
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Speaker 1: you gonna hold on for dear life here. We won't

459
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Speaker 1: have to deal with that this time, though, a much

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Speaker 1: more on Sunday's game. Tune into the Bengals pep Rally

461
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Speaker 1: Show this Friday afternoon from three to six on ESPN

462
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: fifteen thirty or on the iHeart media app by searching

463
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Speaker 1: for ESPN fifteen thirty. Now time for this week's one

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Speaker 1: on one player conversation. I caught up with safety Ricardo

465
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Speaker 1: Allen this week. A few days before his thirtieth birthday.

466
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Speaker 1: He was part of a Super Bowl team of the Falcons,

467
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Speaker 1: and Ricardo has valuable advice for his younger teammates as

468
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Speaker 1: they had into a critical four games stretch. Ricardo, this

469
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Speaker 1: is your seventh year in the NFL. You're coming up

470
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Speaker 1: on game number one hundred if you include playoff games.

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Speaker 1: How do you deal with a gut wrenching loss like

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Speaker 1: last week? Do you go home and play with the kids?

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Speaker 1: Do you watch Sunday Night football with a glass of

474
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Speaker 1: wine or two? What's your process? I typically go home

475
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Speaker 1: and I try to play with my kids and you know,

476
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Speaker 1: talk to the game with my wife at first, and

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Speaker 1: then later on I'll probably uh stay up and watch

478
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Speaker 1: a little bit of the Sunday Night football and then

479
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Speaker 1: I'll play a little bit of mad So I gotta,

480
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,239
Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta go to sleep with a win.

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Speaker 1: At least I try to get on there and beat

482
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Speaker 1: everybody on line. So you were out there for quite

483
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Speaker 1: a few defensive snaps last week and involved in trying

484
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Speaker 1: to cover George Kittle, which obviously is hard to do.

485
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Speaker 1: Is he about as close to unstoppable as any player

486
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Speaker 1: in this league? Yeah, he is a very tough player

487
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Speaker 1: to get out of their game plan against it. Um,

488
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Speaker 1: you know, he's strong, he's fast, he can, he does

489
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Speaker 1: really good job of blocking defensive line. He does really

490
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Speaker 1: good job of you know, getting good match up because

491
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: he's he's he's strong enough to fight with the defensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: He's fastening up the wrong with the dbs, you know.

493
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Speaker 1: So it's like he has like a good ball in

494
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: and then he has a really good head coach who

495
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: also has a good offersive coordinator who knows how to

496
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 1: get him into like boys, knows how to get him

497
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Speaker 1: into spots that uh there's not many people and he

498
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Speaker 1: would get a lot of one on one and stuff.

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Speaker 1: So they do a really good job of featuring him

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Speaker 1: to get him, um, you know, good completions and easy

501
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: catches and stuff, because he is a really good guy

502
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Speaker 1: with the ball in his hand. And then the times

503
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Speaker 1: you do cover him, well, he still makes the catch. Yeah. Yeah,

504
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 1: so that's what it is. It's like he is a

505
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Speaker 1: freak of a nature, like a like athlete at that.

506
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Speaker 1: So you know, the coach does a good job of

507
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Speaker 1: scheming stuff up to make it real easy for him

508
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Speaker 1: a lot of times. But even when you do cover

509
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Speaker 1: him well like you said he will, he still will

510
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Speaker 1: catch it. We're chatting with Ricardo Allen. You're seven and

511
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Speaker 1: six with four games to go. If he can go

512
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: three and one, you would definitely make the playoffs, very

513
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Speaker 1: similar to what you encountered with Atlanta back in twenty seventeen.

514
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Speaker 1: Then you were seven and five and went three and

515
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Speaker 1: one on the stretch to make it. Is there anything

516
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 1: you learn from that experience that this team needs to

517
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: do when it comes down to those those tough games

518
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: at the end, um, you gotta do whatever you can

519
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 1: to pull them out. You got to. You gotta keep

520
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,360
Speaker 1: you know, scratching, clawing and fighting and once you see

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to close the door on like a really

522
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 1: good team. Because all these teams we're playing right now,

523
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Speaker 1: as you can see this year in the league, the

524
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: records are weird. Everyone has almost near the same record.

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Speaker 1: There's a couple of teams who separated themselves. But I

526
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Speaker 1: will see, it seems like that this year the records

527
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: seem to be like fairly close. And when you get

528
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Speaker 1: a chance to close the door on a team you

529
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Speaker 1: have you have to you have to take their chances,

530
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: and you can't give them a chance to fight back

531
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Speaker 1: because as you can see, like we'll fighting team, we

532
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: will fight back from you know, twenty points down, but

533
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: also other teams will always keep fighting to the end.

534
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: And as you can see, like, no matter what, these

535
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: games statistically come down to, I guess one touchdown. I

536
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Speaker 1: don't know. I think like eighty percent of the game

537
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: typically come down to you know, less than one touchdown.

538
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Speaker 1: So if we understand that, we got to know that

539
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a fight to the end. It has

540
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: been kind of a wild roller coaster ride of a year.

541
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Speaker 1: There have been games where you've dominated really good teams

542
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Speaker 1: and then frustrating losses where you've kind of shot yourselves

543
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: in the foot. Is that part of the learning process

544
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: for a young team that has not been in playoff

545
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: contention in recent years? Yes, you know, even though no

546
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: one wants to hear that, just do the research of

547
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: any championship team, you know. I listened to a lot

548
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 1: of Bill Washing and I listened to a lot of

549
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: like old school like football and stuff, and it always

550
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: typically seemed that it's like a three year window for

551
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Speaker 1: a new coach to come in first of all, before

552
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: a team typically gets on like a consistent winning path.

553
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: But with that up and down, it also comes with

554
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: you know, winning some games, you know, and showing your

555
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: team that like, okay, you can beat really good teams,

556
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: but also losing some games to some teams that you know,

557
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: you make sometimes consider a trap game. And then you

558
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: have to what really good teams is. They find out

559
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: how to just give every team respect and let you know,

560
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: every win be equal because it doesn't matter like at

561
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: the end of the day if you go out there

562
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: and you beat team by forty points or you go

563
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: out there and be the team by one point, and

564
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: even the same with the losses at the end of

565
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: the day is all window dressing just to get to win.

566
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Speaker 1: Let's just get this win. At the end of the day,

567
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: I just want to beat the team. I don't care

568
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: if they won five championships before or they've never been

569
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: to a playoff game, Like, let's give them the respect

570
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: and just beat them. We're chatting with Ricardo Allen. The

571
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: Bengals secondary is made up of some great leaders, Mike Kelton,

572
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: Jesse Bates, Fine Bell, chittab A Wogia yourself. What stands

573
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: out to you about this group? Man's um, this is

574
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: one of the most like accountable, I could say groups

575
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: that I've ever been around. Everyone in here takes pride

576
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: in like noring their calls, making their plays, being in

577
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: the right spot. And it's not a team a group

578
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: that very like never really points fingers to the other person,

579
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: like they're always looking for what can I do better?

580
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: How can I get better? Uh? You know Cheeto coming

581
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: in all the time and just being willing to take

582
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: the challenge of the number one receiver. You know, Um,

583
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: you know Eli even just jumping in there and you know,

584
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: taking into a spot that when Trey went down, he

585
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: was just ready to you know, feel the spot. You know,

586
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: Jesse and Vaughn always you know, feeling the void of

587
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: being the leaders in the room, trying to do it

588
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: the right way. And then you know Mike, who is

589
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: another adam this team that's just not willing to you know,

590
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: not afraid to stay and stand up in front of

591
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: the group and correct the group and not afraid to

592
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Speaker 1: be that guy that you know, said what needs to

593
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: be said. So you know, we have a good group

594
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: and a good blend of guys in our room, and

595
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: you know we're just gonna keep fighting. You had to

596
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,959
Speaker 1: den for this week. You've played there before. You're in

597
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: for every snap and a win over the Brown Coast.

598
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Speaker 1: Could you feel a difference playing at high altitude? Yes, yeah,

599
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: there's just there's a little difference. Um, you'll see that

600
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: some of the games that you play in. Um, just

601
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: even warming up out there, you can you can feel

602
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: a little bit of the difference. It's uh, you know,

603
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: once the game started stuff like that, you you already tired,

604
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: like no matter what, just like playing hard. But it

605
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: is like a small different just warming up, you can.

606
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: You can. It's something there. It's kind of like hard

607
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: to say like what it is, but you feel yourself

608
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,479
Speaker 1: just to get a little bit more fatigue and you

609
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: have to make sure you stand hydrated and make sure

610
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: you only like your card or your hard. This week,

611
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: this is a two headed monster team with two running

612
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: backs that each have more than seven hundred rushing yards,

613
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: Javonte Williams and Melvin Gordon. How significant is that when

614
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: you're on the other side of the ball, that is

615
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: a tough feet because you always think about like us

616
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: as athletes, at least myself, I'm always looking at a

617
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: team and trying to figure out, like, Okay, what personnel

618
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: do I believe is the easiest personnel that if we

619
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Speaker 1: was to get the matchup on defense, what personnel could

620
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: I feel that I can focus more on the wide

621
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Speaker 1: receivers than having to focus on the backfield. And sometimes

622
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: it is a backup running back. Some backup running backs

623
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: in this league that if you take out like the starter,

624
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: the second one is like a guy that like none

625
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: of them is like, you know, no running back is

626
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: a bomb, but some of them you really don't have

627
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: to focus on. With both these guys, it's not the

628
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: case because you take you know, Gordon out and you

629
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: put you know, the young Buck in. He is you know,

630
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: I guess the best in the league are now breaking

631
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: tackles and after contacts, so you know, Gordon is already

632
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: a tough feat within themselves. And then you put the

633
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: young Buck in and then their wide receivers are not

634
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: you know, scrubs either. So you got to be smart

635
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: enough as a safety to stay deep enough because they

636
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: will be too deep. And then you got to also

637
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: be you know, good enough to come down and make

638
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Speaker 1: an open field tackles. So like that's all what I'm

639
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: always thinking of. It's like, you know, they got good

640
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: enough wide receivers are stretched the field, it's gonna keep

641
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: me deep enough. But also I got to be able

642
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: to play at level one when it's running back breaks

643
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: out behind the linebackers to you know, make the play

644
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: so it don't go for a long down. So when

645
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about like those two total opposite things, that's

646
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: why I believe this is a you know, a special offense,

647
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: even though it doesn't always seem with the record. A

648
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: couple more questions for Ricardo Allen. It's your first year

649
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: at the Bengals after six with the Falcons. What's it

650
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: been like for you to be in a new city

651
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: and live in a new city. Oh, it's been amazing.

652
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: And this city is like very welcome and it's a

653
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: genuine family. You like feel everyone loves the being with

654
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: everyone's all in for the community. Um, it's very uh,

655
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: you don't know, it's been really cool. I always wonder

656
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: like how would it feel to go somewhere else, knowing

657
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: that I was, I mean, with the Falcons for so long,

658
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: and um, I've enjoyed it. I've enjoyed it a lot.

659
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: Just a new field. Everybody taking me you know, very

660
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: well down here. Um, everyone loves it out here. The

661
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: food's great, good living for my kids and stuff, good

662
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: school system. So it's been, you know, all I can

663
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: dream of so far. Just a couple more wins with help.

664
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: No question about that last thing you turned. You turned

665
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: thirty the day before the Broncos game on Sunday. I've

666
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: said in a previous conversation, I believe you will be

667
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: an NFL head coach someday, and I still feel that way.

668
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: Do you want to play as long as you possibly

669
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: can or are you getting close to the point where

670
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: you want that coaching career to get underway? Yeah? See, Um,

671
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: that is probably my toughest question that I'm on with

672
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: actually right now myself, as uh, you know, like this

673
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: is my first year coming to a team and actually

674
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: just being like a piece, like maybe a guy that

675
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: just you know, sometimes just used in certain situations and

676
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: things like that, and um, you know which is which

677
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: is cool if it's a guy who is okay with

678
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: settling in a sense, um and um me, I want

679
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: to come over here. I'm giving this team and giving

680
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: everything I got, you know, to to the Bengals and

681
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: all I have. But that uh, that coaching piece is

682
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: something that UH is pulling at me. And I don't know,

683
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: you know, like I'm hitting thirty, which is something that

684
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: I always wanted to go forward. And you never know

685
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: in this league. You know, one year you can be,

686
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: you know, with a team, and you know, I'm on

687
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: one year deals right now, so one year I can

688
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: be with a team, and the next year I might

689
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: not be. So I try to take it, you know,

690
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: a day by day as as uh as much as

691
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: I can. But I'm always ready for any opportunity that

692
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: princess itself. So next year, let's say, if I wasn't

693
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: to get you know, resigned with the Bengals or any

694
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: team was to go, probably would be you know, in

695
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: my coaching path as soon as possible. I probably wouldn't

696
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: take any time down. I will go. I've had some

697
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: undercover offers in the sense, but right now, all I'm

698
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: focusing on is trying to get his team to the

699
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: playoffs as much as I can trying to you know,

700
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: throw this body and have as much fun as I

701
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 1: can and give all I can to this team because

702
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: you know, I want to make the most of it

703
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: before I do hang it up and start working for

704
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: my next uh you know, way up the mountain. You're

705
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: seven years in, which is already an incredible accomplishment. Happy

706
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: birthday this weekend, and thanks for the time. I appreciate you.

707
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: Thank you. Allen has been an excellent addition to the

708
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 1: Bengals locker room. He was a four time team captain

709
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. The Bengals Booth podcast is presented by Ultimate Bengals,

710
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Speaker 1: the free to play fantasy football game. Ultimate Bengals will

711
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714
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Speaker 1: Store and Google Play. Last week, Jamar Chase made Bengals

715
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 1: history as he joined Chris Collinsworth in AJ Green as

716
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: the only Bengals rookies to top one thousand receiving yards.

717
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: Jamar is twenty three yards away from breaking AJ's record.

718
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: Chase has already broken the team record for touchdown catches

719
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: by a rookie with ten in this week, I spoke

720
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: to the Bengals legend, who had nine back in nineteen

721
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: seventy three. The Bengals have had some remarkable receivers in

722
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: their history, but none better than Isaac Curtis, who was

723
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: so good that the league had to change the rules

724
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: to prevent defensive backs from holding him and hitting him

725
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: all over the field. Isaac, great to be with you.

726
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: Let's start with Jamar Chase, who has more than a

727
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 1: thousand receiving yards and ten touchdown catches in his first

728
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: thirteen NFL games. What are your impressions of Numero Uno

729
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: so far? I'm extremely impressed. I'll tell you what. He

730
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: is A dynamic receiver that can just uh it really

731
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: opens a fill up. I mean he could stress to

732
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: Phil and this this his athletic ability and you know

733
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: his ability to get open uh. And he's you know,

734
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: he's a good young receiver. I'll tell you what. He's

735
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: going to be, UH, dynamic receiver for a lot of

736
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: years with Cincinnati, with the Bengals era, they're they're very

737
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: lucky to have him. He's he's a tremendous athlete. You

738
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,479
Speaker 1: were the first prominent Bengal to wear the number eighty five.

739
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: Then Chad Johnson came along, then Tyler Eiffert, now Tee Higgins.

740
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: How about Tea? What stands out when you watch team perform?

741
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: He does everything. I mean he he runs really great routes,

742
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: He catches the ball, he gets open um, he's just

743
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: a you know, they Cincinnati, they have a really tremendous

744
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,439
Speaker 1: young receiving corps, and I think they're gonna be around.

745
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 1: They're gonna be just gonna get better as the years,

746
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: as the years uh go along, especially with with Burrows,

747
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: you know, being so young. Uh, they got a bright,

748
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: bright future with that receiving cores. And let's get to

749
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: the third member of the so called Cincinnati three way,

750
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd. What makes him great in the slot Just

751
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: his ability to just to read the defenses to make

752
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: to be in the right place at the right time. Uh,

753
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: you know, he come and gets in and out of

754
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: his brakes. Well he catches the ball. Well, um all,

755
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: I just say, all of them are really really impressive,

756
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: uh wide receivers. But they are, They're they're gonna be

757
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 1: They're gonna be good for quite a while, I think,

758
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: And I can say they can only get better. We

759
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: are visiting with the great Isaac Curtis. You played with

760
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: one of the most accurate quarterbacks in NFL history, and

761
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: Ken Anderson. Do you see a lot of Kenny when

762
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: you watch Joe Burrow. I think his accuracy some of

763
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: his leadership, you know. But but but I think from

764
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: my accuracy standpoint, Burrows is extremely accuracy. I mean, and

765
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: he just uh, you know, he's just he just has

766
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: a presence that he stands up. It's you know, he

767
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: stands and get to that pocket. You know that that

768
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: I think that that all the guys can fill and

769
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: receivers can fill it. And and this is a tremendous,

770
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: tremendous quarterback. But like I say, he throws a good ball,

771
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: it looks like it's an easy ball to catch. Kenny

772
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 1: was very accurate to a very good ball to catch,

773
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: you know. And his timing with his quarters with his

774
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: receivers are great. Burroughs timing with his receivers are really

775
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: really great. And I think to say that, I think

776
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: it's only going to get better as the years, as

777
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 1: the years go by, the more they play together. Isaac,

778
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: I referenced how you changed the NFL. They started the

779
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: Isaac Curtis rule basically to stop defensive backs from mugging

780
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 1: wide receivers at least after the first five yards from

781
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. Is the NFL a more entertaining

782
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: game because of the Isaac Curtis rule, I actually think so,

783
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's it's opened up the passing game.

784
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: It's kind of make it more of a wide open

785
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: UH league, and the passing game is wide opened, and

786
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: I think that's really good for a spectators. But yeah,

787
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: I think it has opened it up by a And

788
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: you know, back in the days when I was coming up,

789
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: you know, of course, they didn't have that rule. They

790
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: can cut you, chop you, they can do whatever they want.

791
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: And I think the rue thing that really spurred that

792
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: on was we played in Miami Dolphins in the playoff

793
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: game and Essex Johnson was a tremendous running back. I

794
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: think it was probably the first play of the game

795
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: or second play offensive play. Essex Johnson broke through the middle,

796
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 1: got hit, hurt his knee, and then and the next

797
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: thing was just let's just take Isaacs say Curtis out

798
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: of the game. And they just started coming up they

799
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: would just cut you. You know, they wouldn't try to

800
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 1: cover you. I mean, they were just trying to take

801
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: you out. And that's what happened is it started becoming

802
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: that type of the game where I would have a

803
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 1: corner that would roll up and just coming to try

804
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: to cut me. Sometimes I'd have corner roll up try

805
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: to hold you up, and then there's an outside linebacker

806
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: they come and try to cut you out from the side.

807
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: So it has really opened the game up. And that's

808
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,479
Speaker 1: how that rule was spurred on, you know, with Paul

809
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: Brown going to the Ruse committee talking with them about

810
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: you know, what they're doing to wide receivers and you know,

811
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: you got playmakers and you're you're you're not trying to

812
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: cover them or contain them. What you're doing is just

813
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: trying to take them out. And so they came up

814
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: with that with that five yard bump row. You know,

815
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: after five yards you cannot you got to you know,

816
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: disengage with the h with the white outs, which is

817
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: which was really a good rule. You know, it's it's

818
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: it took some time because initially when it passed, it

819
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: wasn't helping that much. But you know, I've never really

820
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: complained about it because that's the way the game was

821
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: played back then. Did defensive backs ever joke with you

822
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: that you made it much harder on them once that

823
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: role was passed. I had a couple of them that

824
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: said that made it's made it. It's not fair, you know.

825
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: And now, especially when you get some of these receivers

826
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: that could run and dig and go down field after

827
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: five yards, you can't you can't touch them, you know,

828
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: you got to disengage with them. It makes it. It

829
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: makes it very difficult on the defensive back. Uh, it really,

830
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 1: it really does. But I think it's for the better

831
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 1: the game, and some of the other changes that they've

832
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: made in the league is better for the much better

833
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 1: for the game a long. You know, like the cutting

834
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: where we used to crack back and cut and get

835
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 1: they'll below the waist, you know, all that stuff is

836
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: cut out and that that stops a lot of leg

837
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: and knee injuries. So I think a lot of the

838
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: route changes have made the game a lot, a lot better,

839
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 1: a lot safer. But sometimes it does drive me crazy

840
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: the way they throw some of the flags without and

841
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: they say passing affairans and I'm looking at passing affairs.

842
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: You know, that's nothing, you know, but just incidental contact.

843
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: My broadcast partner Dave Lapham says, if you had played today,

844
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: with the way that they throw the ball, your statistics

845
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: would have been crazy. Do you ever wonder what it

846
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: would have been like if you were playing now? I

847
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: think it would be fun. I don't think about it

848
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: too much anymore, but at times I have thought how

849
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: much fun it is to watch the game now, and

850
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: how much freedom the wide receivers have at least, like

851
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 1: I said, at least from being hit and pushed and uh,

852
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: you know, on the on the field. But you know,

853
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: back when I came in, we were more balanced. It

854
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: was a more balanced game, more balanced offense, you have

855
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: more running. It just seemed to be more more balanced.

856
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: Now it's it's leaned towards more wide open of a

857
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: passing game. So yeah, I think the statistics would have

858
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: been much better, you know, But you know, it is

859
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: what it is. I came along too early. Well, this

860
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: is the fortieth anniversary of the nineteen eighty one Super

861
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: Bowl team, Isaac, and you average sixteen and a half

862
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 1: yards per catch that year. All these years later, what

863
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: does it mean to you to have been part of

864
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: the first Bengals team to make up to a Super Bowl. Well,

865
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: I think it was That was a very special time

866
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: because I think when you you know, even as a

867
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: young kid, when you're coming in the league and you're playing,

868
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: that is the one goal that every every player that's

869
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: that's uh that comes in the league, I would love

870
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: to play in a Super Bowl. And that's everybody's goal.

871
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: And so they have the opportunity to be able to

872
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: play in the Super Bowl. With the team that I

873
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: played with with with Kenny and Chris and Lewis Breeden

874
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: and no I mean just you know, Reggie Williams is

875
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 1: all the guys we had. We had a tremendous team

876
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: and we were a very close team. We were a

877
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 1: good team, but we were very close uh as a

878
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 1: as a as a group as well. But I couldn't

879
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: you know, of course, it would have been better, we'd

880
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: have won it. But but it was certainly special to

881
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to play in a Super Bowl, especially

882
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: with the group of guys that I had the opportunity

883
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: to play with. And I say it was a tremendous team.

884
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: We had a lot of fun together on the field,

885
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 1: off the field. I couldn't. I you know, I couldn't

886
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 1: ask for anything else. Does it feel to you, Isaac,

887
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: like the Bengals are building a contender with Joe Burrowd quarterback. Oh?

888
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: I think so. I thought when I watched him last year,

889
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: I said, boy, I'll tell you what, they got him,

890
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. He's a real deal and I'm really I'm

891
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: really impressed with him. He said. He's just got such

892
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: a great air about himself. And you know, he's got

893
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: a nice coup calm head. The way he sits back

894
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: there in that pocket. He's good. He's good. I think

895
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 1: we can keep him healthy. He's going to be good

896
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: for a lot of years. We got some really good

897
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: jung quarterbacks in the league all over the league, but

898
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: I think Burrows is one of the special ones, and

899
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: I think he will be for years to come. I

900
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: know Joe loves the receivers that he has, but I

901
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: guarantee he would have loved throwing to you. And it's

902
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: great to talk to one of the best to ever

903
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: do it. Thanks so much for your time, Isaac, and

904
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 1: happy holidays. Well, thank you, thanks for thanks for having

905
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: me in and enjoy the holidays. Last but not least

906
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: it's time for this week's Know the Faux segment. When

907
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: the Broncos lost four straight games and traded away Von Miller,

908
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: I wrote them off. But they've played well since, including

909
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 1: a dominant win over the Cowboys in Dallas. I asked

910
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: Denver reporter Mike Cliss about it when he joined lapping me.

911
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm a Bengals game plan show. Yeah. That is funny

912
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: how things work in sports sometimes, isn't it. It's for

913
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 1: some reason the Vaughan Miller trade wasn't a white flag.

914
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: It was more of a kick in the pants for

915
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: the for the Bronco players. They got a little healthier.

916
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,439
Speaker 1: They got Jerry Judy back, They got Bradley Chubb back.

917
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 1: They were out during that four game losing streak with

918
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: with ankle injuries. That was a factor. Um. I think

919
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: Fanjoe tightened up his defense. They had some inside linebacker problems.

920
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: They're they're now on their They've played eight uh eight

921
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: players at the two inside linebacker spots this year, which

922
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: if you added up, that's that year down to your

923
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 1: four stringers. And but the rookie Brandon Browning's playing better.

924
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: They they got some guys that weren't very physical, so

925
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: they've been a little more decent stopping the run and

926
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: they've done a better job of running the ball themselves.

927
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,720
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon and Javante Williams. Uh, you know, they really

928
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: stepped up. The matchups have been good for the Broncos.

929
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: You know how it goes, everybody is you know, I

930
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: say this, It seems like nobody in the league is

931
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: good this year, you know, so you got just as

932
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: much chance as any to beat someone else. And the

933
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: Lions came along at the right time, and you know,

934
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: they're feeling pretty good about themselves as they go against

935
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: much improved Bengal team. Is it as simple as okay,

936
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: run the football efficiently and effectively and play good defense,

937
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 1: they're gonna win games. If we don't run the ball

938
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 1: well enough and have to throw it, we're going to struggle.

939
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: The last five games, when they've been able to run

940
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: the ball thirty times a more, they get three wins.

941
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: When they've had to throw it thirty times some more,

942
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: they have two losses. So is it that simple? Is

943
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: the formula contingent on getting those two running backs going

944
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: and then playing solid defense. Yeah, that's true. The only

945
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: thing I would just say to that is sometimes you

946
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 1: can't run the ball. They don't let you run the ball,

947
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 1: you know. I mean it's not like, yeah, it's the formula,

948
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: run the ball and play action. And Teddy's pretty good,

949
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: you know, he's an efficient Last week he was eighteen

950
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: out of twenty five to one hundred and eighty yards. No,

951
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: that's pretty much Teddy Bridgewater. Two touchdowns, no, no turnovers.

952
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: I think only one sack. But sometimes, you know, if

953
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: they play seven in the box, you can't run the ball,

954
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: and sometimes you go against some defensive linemen and inside

955
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: linebackers that it's not easy to block those guys. So yeah,

956
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: they would love to run the ball thirty times. But

957
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: I'll tell you another thing, there's there's one more rents

958
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: into that formula. The defense as good as it is.

959
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: Three times this year after two drives, they've been down

960
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: to nothing. They've been down ten nothing before the offense

961
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: gets its fourth offensive play, and so that takes you

962
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: out of your running rhythm. You know, you're this offense

963
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: is not built, you know, primarily because Teddy's not a

964
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: you know, he's not a twenty five yard down the

965
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: field passer. He's much more patient. You know, his arm

966
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: strength isn't isn't there with Josh Allen or anything or

967
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. But when they're down ten nothing, you know,

968
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: they come out of their game. They just don't get

969
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: into an offensive rhythm. And that's happened three times to

970
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: him this year. So the defense, as good as they

971
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: look statistically, they tend to not show up until the

972
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: second quarter, and you know then they you know, then

973
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: they tighten things up and but it spend those slow

974
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: starts that it hasn't been a complimentary defense with an

975
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 1: offense that does need to run the ball and and

976
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: news play action and those three games, Mike, did they

977
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: come out flat? One of them was a little joke

978
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: and I yeah, well, you know, Fangio always says that

979
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: you know, when when you're getting you know, it's like baseball,

980
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: when you're getting no hit, you know, you look flat. Uh,

981
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: you know, you can't hit the when when you're when

982
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: when the other team is steamrolling you, you know, like uh,

983
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: one of them was at Cleveland Browns game. He might

984
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: have saw it on Thursday night and Cleveland had their

985
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: top two running backs out, their mayfield was out, and

986
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: they just ran it down the Broncos groats and uh yeah,

987
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: they looked pretty flat that day. Um right, and yeah,

988
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: so yeah, I know what you guys are getting at.

989
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: And uh, you know that was the Cowboys, right, the

990
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 1: Broncos jumped on the one time the defense had a

991
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: had a big u a fourth down stop on the

992
00:50:56,200 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 1: first two drives, and the Broncos jumped on. And Jerry

993
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: Jones says, that was the plattists I've ever seen our teams. Yeah,

994
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: you know, when you get punched in the notes, I

995
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: guess you come out flat. Yep, your nose is flat,

996
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: that's for sure. Mike Less from Denver is our guest Mike.

997
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: Three years ago, the Bengals and the Broncos were both

998
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: in the market for a new head coach. Cincinnati, like

999
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: a lot of other teams in the NFL that year,

1000
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: looked for a young, offensive minded head coach and hired

1001
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor, and the Broncos took the opposite approach. They

1002
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: went for an older guy who had been a longtime

1003
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: defensive coach, Vic Fangio. What have been your impressions of

1004
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 1: Vic Fangio over the last two and a half years.

1005
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,439
Speaker 1: By the way, I'll give you a little anecdote there,

1006
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: the Broncos had a five man finalist list. Zach Taylor

1007
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: was interviewed. He was interviewed right before Vic Fangio, and

1008
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: ostensibly always grand plan was Fangio is going to be

1009
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: the head coach, and he wanted Zack Taylor, who was

1010
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: then the quarterback coach for the Rams. As you guys know,

1011
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: he made a big leap there head coach and he

1012
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: had never been a coordinator before. Elway wanted him as

1013
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator here. That was he wanted a young

1014
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:13,720
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator is going to be Zach Taylor, and Fangio

1015
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 1: is going to be his defensive coordinator slash head coach.

1016
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: But you guys threw a wrench into that and by

1017
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: go ahead and hiring him as the head coach, and

1018
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 1: you know, Fangio, I think, like Zach Taylor, he's had

1019
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: some growing pains. Vick's not a ra ra guy. He's

1020
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 1: low key, and when you're not winning, you know, they

1021
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: say he doesn't have enough fire. And when you're not winning,

1022
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: he doesn't know about offense. The offense has struggled here

1023
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: really since two thou fourteen, not even since Peyton left,

1024
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: Since the year before Peyton left. Peyton's last year was

1025
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: nine touchdown seventeen interceptions. So they've struggled for a while

1026
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: on offense. But now that he's but now that they've

1027
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 1: started to win, they've won four of their last six.

1028
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: You know, if Angio's getting credit for staying the course,

1029
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: for not panicking, you know, everything is the same. You know,

1030
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: it's business as usual. I think you know, if you

1031
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: had done this interview six weeks ago, I would have

1032
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: said it didn't look good for Vic, you know, coaching

1033
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: after this season. Now it seems like, you know, this

1034
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 1: team is really pointing up and he's got a real

1035
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: chance to coach next year. With the Broncos, you got

1036
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: a dynamic duo at running back, and in the secondary

1037
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: you have Gordon and Williams. Gordon Williams are combined for

1038
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: fourteen hundred plus yards and ten touchdowns rushing. And then

1039
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: in the secondary, Sir Tan has four interceptions, Simmons has five.

1040
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: If you had to pick which dynamic duo has been

1041
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: the most important to the success of the Broncos this year. Cool. Uh,

1042
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 1: that's uh, that that's uh, that's a good one. Um.

1043
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 1: Simmons is as a safety is generally partnered up with

1044
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: Kareem Jackson. It was also a good player. Uh, you

1045
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: guys know him. He's been in the league twelve years.

1046
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: Or tan is A is a rookie. Fine, I don't know,

1047
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: Uh that is I guess I don't I guess I

1048
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,439
Speaker 1: don't want to pick on that one, because you're right,

1049
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: you just picked the strength of the team, you know,

1050
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: the uh you know, they need a little more than

1051
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: that in the passing game on offense, and they need

1052
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: a little more, you know, beefy men to stop the

1053
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 1: run on defense. Um, but those are those are your

1054
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: your four best players here, um all around. The biggest

1055
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: upgrade though, that this team has made, guys, has been

1056
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: and you know, I know he doesn't get much credit,

1057
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: but the biggest upgrade has been at quarterback. Drew Locke,

1058
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 1: who has far more talent, just was way more careless

1059
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: with the football. Teddy, who's limited in his abilities, is

1060
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 1: very smart and and takes care of the football and

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00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: does things like convert third and sixes. You know, he

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00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: may throw at five yards and the guy's got to

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00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: run a couple to convert it, but but he does

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00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 1: things like that, and so I really think that's why

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00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: the Broncos are seven and six. You you picked out

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00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: the strengths there those four players, and then at quarterback

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00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: they're just it's just more winning football at that position

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00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, and VIC fan Joe being a defensive

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00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: oriented head coach. I bet one thing he can't stand

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00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: as a quarterback that turns it over, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: Final question, Mike can appreciate the time you've carved special teams.

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00:55:56,000 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: The punt game. The Broncos are in the league returning

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00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: punts in their eighth covering punts, kickoff returns, they're thirty

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00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: first in the league, returning them in thirty second in

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00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: the league covering them, allowing almost thirty eight yards for

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00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: a turn one hundred and two yard touchdown. Why why

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00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: the up and down They've they've blocked three kicks, you know,

1078
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 1: I mean they they've had their ups and downs. It's

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00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: almost like a roller coaster. The Bengals have had some

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00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: roller coasters in some areas. Why the roller coaster and

1081
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: special teams? Yeah, that that and it's been like that

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00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: for three or four years. I always say the kickoff.

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00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:38,399
Speaker 1: You know, they solved their kickoff return coverage last week.

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00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 1: McManus kick six touchnacks out of six kickoffs, you know

1085
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: here in the mile high air. Why is you know,

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00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: just boot them all out, you know, And maybe that's

1087
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: what Fanjie finally told Tom McMahon to do. Just boot

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00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: them all out and let them start at the twenty

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Speaker 1: five The Lions all six kickoff. They started at the

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Speaker 1: twenty five all six times on them off of McManus kickoff.

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Speaker 1: And that's one reason why I was a Special Teams

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00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: Player of the Week. So that solves that problem. Uh,

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00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: you know, return it's not dynamic. You know, they've they

1094
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: have had injuries, and you guys know when you have injuries,

1095
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: that filters down to the back end of the roster,

1096
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: and the back end of the roster is where the

1097
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: special teamers are. And that has been a steady flow.

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00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: It's never been consistent, especially at the inside. I talked

1099
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: about inside linebacker. Inside linebacker is the body type that

1100
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: you want on special teams and so that's been a

1101
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: revolving door. That's you know, I think that's that's part

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00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: of it too. And you know, I don't know, maybe

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00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: Tom McMahon has a system in place that that works

1104
00:57:55,080 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 1: if everybody's executing. But if you know, one little a

1105
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: cog in the wheel slips up, it messes up everything.

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00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: It all falls apart, and that's what's happened. You know

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Speaker 1: this year you said it was kickoff returns they stink at.

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00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: The previous year, I don't have the numbers in front

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00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: of me, but it was probably punt returns. Say they

1110
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: stunk at, and we're pretty good at kickoff returns. I

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Speaker 1: just think it's just the turnover at the back end

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Speaker 1: of the roster because of injuries. That's probably the biggest culprit.

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Speaker 1: Sunday's game in Denverse starts at four oh five Cincinnati time,

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Speaker 1: and the Broncos are favored by two and a half.

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