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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: welcome back to the Cowboys Break. We thought it was
Speaker 1: gonna be a nice, little easy bye week where we
Speaker 1: would get to rest, but that is not the case.
Speaker 1: We got some knees breaking down. I think although we
Speaker 1: have heard the talk about Amari Cooper, we neither none
Speaker 1: of us really thought that would actually happen, or did you.
Speaker 1: Hell no, no, I didn't think it would sure game
Speaker 1: as a surprise, especially how it went down yesterday. While
Speaker 1: the Cowboys were super surprised that happened. I'm very surprised
Speaker 1: of the first round pick, you know, but I'm not.
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I mean, I guess one of those things.
Speaker 1: You'll see it when you know. I believe it when
Speaker 1: you see it. But I kind of thought, maybe, you know,
Speaker 1: because I'm still a believer. Where they're smoke, there's fire
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of smoke around Earl tom was
Speaker 1: that never happened, but I just kind of thought there
Speaker 1: was something, but not to this level, not to first
Speaker 1: round pick. I've just got automated responses plugged into my
Speaker 1: phone where I'm like, the Cowboys like their guys. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna happen. I mean, Cowboys are
Speaker 1: linked to like five different players every trade cycle, and
Speaker 1: this is I mean, you know, they did the Bryce
Speaker 1: Butler and Matt Castle trades when they absolutely had to
Speaker 1: to try to keep their season afloat. But this is
Speaker 1: the first time they've done something like this in my
Speaker 1: time covering the team, and they we like our guys,
Speaker 1: so we love to build through the draft. So I'm
Speaker 1: pretty shocked. I'm still shocked almost twenty four hours later.
Speaker 1: And Jerry Jones had said a few weeks ago that
Speaker 1: he hasn't hit the panny button yet. And we know
Speaker 1: how much talk there was around Earl Thomas and the
Speaker 1: trade and how they battle there and towards the end,
Speaker 1: how they actually did want to get Earl Thomas and
Speaker 1: he didn't work out. Now, after this Washington loss, you
Speaker 1: think that now that's stuck another type of nerve where
Speaker 1: they are now kind of desperate and willing to actually
Speaker 1: give up a first round pick. Yes and no, I
Speaker 1: mean yes for this season to try to let's do something,
Speaker 1: to try to you know, maybe pull off a couple
Speaker 1: more wins here that you can perhaps win this division.
Speaker 1: But I think the fact that he's twenty four years
Speaker 1: old and they feel like this is a guy that
Speaker 1: would probably be better than anybody that they could pick
Speaker 1: up next year and wherever they're going to draft, I
Speaker 1: feel like there's more to it than just these last
Speaker 1: nine games. I think that there's there's like future implications
Speaker 1: as well. So I yes and no is my nswer
Speaker 1: to that, if that makes sense. Yeah, I feel a
Speaker 1: couple types of ways about that. I mean, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think you could classify this as a desperation move because
Speaker 1: they spent six months you know, you know, we don't
Speaker 1: need a number one wide receiver. There's only five or
Speaker 1: six of those guys in the whole league. We feel
Speaker 1: good about what we did. You know, these guys are
Speaker 1: gonna step up, They're gonna take the pressure off Zeake.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was one of the biggest talking points
Speaker 1: of the entire offseason and seven games in it obviously
Speaker 1: hasn't happened. And they overpaid for Amara Cooper. They did,
Speaker 1: and I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing, but
Speaker 1: it's just I think it's a statement of fact. On
Speaker 1: the flip side of that, you know, at some point
Speaker 1: the Cowboys can't win because if they weren't, if they
Speaker 1: weren't doing anything, and they're just like, we're gonna get
Speaker 1: this together. Alan Hearns is gonna, he's gonna he's coming
Speaker 1: into form, and Michael Gallops keeps getting better. We'd be
Speaker 1: killing them for being stubborn and not changing their line
Speaker 1: of thinking. And you know, you're wasting a season where
Speaker 1: the SEC East is down because you're too stubborn to
Speaker 1: admit that you made a mistake. So they're admitting that
Speaker 1: they made a mistake there. You know, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that they they see what they did wrong
Speaker 1: and they're trying to rectify it. I do think they
Speaker 1: overpaid for Amary Cooper, but he's twenty four, he had
Speaker 1: two really badass seasons. There's at least a reason to
Speaker 1: hope that he can turn it around. So it's an overpay,
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's just this drastically terrible mistake
Speaker 1: that a lot of people want to paint it as.
Speaker 1: And I give him credit for recognizing the problem and
Speaker 1: trying to fix it. Yeah, I mean I what I
Speaker 1: can't forget is the fact that you know, this team
Speaker 1: has done this a couple of times since I've been here,
Speaker 1: to get a first round, to trade first round picks
Speaker 1: for a receiver, and it's like, there's just more to
Speaker 1: it than that. I mean, they brought in Roy Williams
Speaker 1: and and he had Tony Romo and that didn't work out.
Speaker 1: And people can say all they want to like, well
Speaker 1: that was different because that was Roy Williams. But if
Speaker 1: things continue to go for Amary Cooper the way that
Speaker 1: they've been, then he will be Roy. He'll be the
Speaker 1: same type of thing. I mean, it's it's spiraling downward
Speaker 1: until it can get back up. I just have a
Speaker 1: very hard time thinking we'll be sitting here in April
Speaker 1: and go, you know, I'd rather have my first round pick.
Speaker 1: I just feel like that's going to happen. I don't
Speaker 1: know what he can do to be like, I'm so
Speaker 1: good glad they didn't they did that. That's fine. They
Speaker 1: can have the pick we got Cooper. I have a
Speaker 1: hard time thinking that's going to happen, and so I
Speaker 1: also have a hard time thinking that you couldn't have
Speaker 1: done something different with the second round. Oh the Eagles
Speaker 1: were asking for a second fine, I mean Cowboys second,
Speaker 1: it's probably gonna be about the same. You can throw
Speaker 1: in fourth, fifth, you can, you can sweeten the deal
Speaker 1: without going into the first round. I think. But and
Speaker 1: that's I see where you're going. And that's why you know,
Speaker 1: in the weeks leading up to this, I said, give
Speaker 1: me DeVante Parker for a sixth or it's water way
Speaker 1: under the bridge, but give me Josh Gordon for a fifth,
Speaker 1: because you're giving yourself a chance to fix the problem
Speaker 1: without committing these crazy resources to it. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: if if you trade DeVante Parker for a sixth, then
Speaker 1: he's terrible. Who cares? If Josh Gordon gets suspended for
Speaker 1: smoking weed? Who cares? Is a fifth round pick their
Speaker 1: day three picks there, they're a diamond dozen't so committing
Speaker 1: the first round pick to it, especially with how good
Speaker 1: this team has been in the first round, it is
Speaker 1: a little disheartening. I take a little bit of comfort
Speaker 1: in the thought that you know, I'm already diving into this.
Speaker 1: This receiver crop for twenty nineteen does not look super promising.
Speaker 1: So you know, at least you know Cooper's Cooper really
Speaker 1: probably is better than a receiver that you're gonna get
Speaker 1: in the first round. But that doesn't mean maybe there's
Speaker 1: an offensive tackle you really love in the first round,
Speaker 1: or a tight end or whatever that you know now
Speaker 1: you don't have a chance to get that guy. You know.
Speaker 1: I just feel like first round picks are so valuable,
Speaker 1: and a lot of teams feel that way that if
Speaker 1: you would have called thirty one teams and then at
Speaker 1: last two days, maybe they did, but I doubt it.
Speaker 1: Call thirty one teams and ask for their number one
Speaker 1: receiver for a first round pick, and I have a
Speaker 1: feeling you could have gotten someone maybe maybe better than him,
Speaker 1: I mean first round pick. I mean, I just feel
Speaker 1: like you think so, yeah, I do. I think Cooper's
Speaker 1: a little uniquely positioned just because he's I know, you know,
Speaker 1: the last year and a half have not been great,
Speaker 1: but he's got a resume. He's got a resume, he's
Speaker 1: a two time pro bowler, and his contract is in
Speaker 1: a certain spot. I mean, you know, you think about
Speaker 1: the truly elite receivers in this league, most of them
Speaker 1: are playing on huge money deals, most of them. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, you're not getting Odell Beckham for just one
Speaker 1: first round pick. I don't think you're not getting Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown or Julio Jones. Like I think Cooper's a little
Speaker 1: uniquely positioned to where the body of work and the
Speaker 1: pick kind of coinside, which is why you know, I
Speaker 1: thought you might be able to get him for a second.
Speaker 1: But yeah, well the deal is pretty much made. That
Speaker 1: is what happened. They did give up their first round pick. Now,
Speaker 1: with that being said, they're fixing to cut Bryce Boiler
Speaker 1: and make it official pretty soon. So with the Mari
Speaker 1: coming in, how does he integrate with the group of
Speaker 1: wide receivers that the Cowboys are really have? Obviously Terrence
Speaker 1: Williams out the door. Basically he's on our heart and
Speaker 1: then you got tell you when Austin still hurt. But
Speaker 1: based on what we've seen so far, how they've managed
Speaker 1: the wide receivers and what they have done with them
Speaker 1: right now, how do you see a guy like Mari
Speaker 1: really working out and coming in and making a difference,
Speaker 1: which and this this is the flips of Eric. Hey, Derek,
Speaker 1: what's that up? You have a good meeting? Yeah cool,
Speaker 1: cool to talk after? Oh boy? Oh as all in trouble.
Speaker 1: Oh good, let's finish the show. Hey yeah, great. I
Speaker 1: hope that's I hope that's a joke. Um, it's a joke. Okay, good,
Speaker 1: thank you. Um. I've been thinking about that because I
Speaker 1: just said it, and I still I believe it. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys overpaid for Amari Cooper, But that happens when you're
Speaker 1: trying to improve your team in the NFL from time
Speaker 1: to time. You look at the flip side of that.
Speaker 1: He's immediately your best receiver, he's your ex he's going
Speaker 1: to be here for twenty five more games, and hopefully
Speaker 1: you would think the Cowboys are gonna have a good
Speaker 1: shot to extend him beyond that. Like I'm if he's
Speaker 1: supposed to replace your first round pick, I'm thinking of
Speaker 1: him as a building block player. Michael Gal is my
Speaker 1: why from here on out. Cole Beasley is my slot.
Speaker 1: No disrespect to Alan Huns or Deanta Thompson, But like,
Speaker 1: why am I bothering with that? If I just gave
Speaker 1: up a first round pick for Amari Cooper. Am I
Speaker 1: crazy for thinking that? No? I mean, I think Alan
Speaker 1: Hearns they tried to, you know, see if he could
Speaker 1: be a guy that was you know what he was
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, and and that's Alan Hearns
Speaker 1: is a reason why you could have you should have
Speaker 1: some caution here with with Cooper because they saw what
Speaker 1: he did a couple years ago and they said, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe he could be that type of guy. They're hoping
Speaker 1: that Cooper's the type of guy was you know a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago as well. But they're different skills
Speaker 1: skill um, they had different skill sets, so you can't
Speaker 1: really compare these players. I just feel like that you're
Speaker 1: You're right about that at least from Gallup and Cooper. Beasley.
Speaker 1: You got to get a new contract for him, right,
Speaker 1: we'll see, but but you know Beasley will be better
Speaker 1: if if if this guy can stretch the field. And
Speaker 1: I said this yesterday on the show. He's got nineteen
Speaker 1: touchdowns eleven him or thirty yards or more. And that's
Speaker 1: that's pretty good when you think of Daz had nineteen
Speaker 1: touchdowns of thirty or more in his eight year career.
Speaker 1: So you know he's a guy that has stretching the field,
Speaker 1: but I don't I think I agree with everything you
Speaker 1: said right there, except for I don't discard Herns so readily.
Speaker 1: Well I'm not trying to cut him, no, I know,
Speaker 1: but I guess what I'm saying in a year I
Speaker 1: am I'm saying right now when you look at I mean,
Speaker 1: I think this last game was that not the best
Speaker 1: game he's had so far since he's been here. I
Speaker 1: mean as five catches seventy four yards, that's significant, I
Speaker 1: think in this offense. And so I still believe that,
Speaker 1: I still believe there's still more to find out about
Speaker 1: about what Alan Herns can be here and maybe if
Speaker 1: given a particular role, which what we've seen I think
Speaker 1: i've seen already from him is what he does well
Speaker 1: is he can catch those slant routes. He can catch
Speaker 1: those Carl routes. Like He's not a deep threat, but
Speaker 1: he's a guy that you could put into a role
Speaker 1: of moving the chains. He could be a big body
Speaker 1: that you can use to move the chains. I think
Speaker 1: what we're what we're at least when I'm starting to
Speaker 1: see is I think if if you can get from
Speaker 1: Cooper what you thought you were getting from Dez when
Speaker 1: he was here, which is a true number one type
Speaker 1: receiver that can make big plays. He is your explosive
Speaker 1: play guy. He can make explosive plays for you. Now,
Speaker 1: what that does is that allows a lot of these
Speaker 1: other guys to settle into roles. Cole becomes a guy
Speaker 1: that works to slot and works the middle of the field,
Speaker 1: can move the chains. Hearns can be a big body
Speaker 1: that can can can move the chains as well. I
Speaker 1: think Gallup has shown he can get downfield and make
Speaker 1: some plays downfield for you. I think you can start
Speaker 1: to kind of find roles for these guys. That makes
Speaker 1: a lot more sense than just kind of throwing him
Speaker 1: out there and seeing I don't know, really know what
Speaker 1: anybody does well and just kind doing whatever you know
Speaker 1: if you want to use, if you want to use
Speaker 1: Hearns the same way they used Bryce when he was
Speaker 1: actually part of the offense, that's fine with me, but
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more. But yeah, you give up
Speaker 1: to see I disagree, and Hearns did have his best game,
Speaker 1: and I like Alan Hearns as a person and I
Speaker 1: don't think he's been bad, but way more than I
Speaker 1: remember his five catches for seventy four yards. I remember
Speaker 1: he ran out of bounds on his big game and
Speaker 1: like seemed like he could have got more yards and Murray,
Speaker 1: he dropped. He dropped a super clutch contested ball. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: but let's remember background. Let's remember Amari Cooper also has
Speaker 1: been having issue with catching the ball. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's that's beside the point you have made your bed
Speaker 1: with I get it. I'm just saying, though, before you
Speaker 1: start relying on him to be whatever and discarding the
Speaker 1: other guys, saying that he can't always catch the ball reliably,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's something you got to consider. You're
Speaker 1: you're that's my nightmare. Like if I mean, if that's
Speaker 1: really how No, that's not that's not possible if you
Speaker 1: gave up a first round pick, like what you're saying,
Speaker 1: it's not possible that you've been having issues catching. No,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, he like, start catching it then, because the
Speaker 1: first round pick is gone now, ex receiver. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's that's simple. It better if I think what
Speaker 1: he's saying. I'm not trying to speak for you, but
Speaker 1: the fact is is that this whole debate about well,
Speaker 1: he's not thinking. Mark Cooper's here, we got jerseys, we're
Speaker 1: about to sell with him. Mark Cooper's the guy. First
Speaker 1: round pick is gone, so he's the guy. His his
Speaker 1: warts and whatever, deal with it. But they're the decisions
Speaker 1: to be made next. Dear for Alan Hearns, Kavon Austin,
Speaker 1: Deontay Thompson, uh and Cole Beasley and on how this
Speaker 1: thing kind of rounds out and all of those four guys,
Speaker 1: I would imagine one of them comes back, maybe two
Speaker 1: in which two are they right? And that's my thing
Speaker 1: is I don't think that. I don't think you're going
Speaker 1: out to draft one. So you're looking at those you
Speaker 1: just did, so you're not about to do it again
Speaker 1: because you don't have But you don't have a first
Speaker 1: round pick, so you're not about to get another one.
Speaker 1: So at this point, I'm thinking, with what you have,
Speaker 1: Hearns might be the best of left of what you
Speaker 1: have to round out to receiver group. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: he'd be as good as Cole Beasley, but like you
Speaker 1: can find a Cole Beasley type player in the draft
Speaker 1: way after the first round. I mean, if you decide
Speaker 1: if you decide you don't want to bring him back,
Speaker 1: and I don't know, but I just Cooper. Obviously, Gallop's
Speaker 1: arrow is up and you spent a pick on it,
Speaker 1: like get him on the field. And we talked about
Speaker 1: and maybe that Mickey and Brian were right Nick, maybe
Speaker 1: you know, we were kind of down on him. He
Speaker 1: showed what he can do. Get him on the field.
Speaker 1: I'm done with this rotation thing and I feel like
Speaker 1: they are too, which is and again Allup needs to
Speaker 1: be playing more. No disrespect to Alan Hearns. If you
Speaker 1: can find some space for you know, if you can
Speaker 1: find some use for him, fine, But like I don't
Speaker 1: want a Cooper or Gallop coming off the field, and
Speaker 1: Beasley plays best in the slots. So those are the
Speaker 1: three guys I want to see primarily, and I think
Speaker 1: they've earned that right or the Cowboys have invested in them.
Speaker 1: This is not going to happen. But what I would
Speaker 1: like to do would be bring up Na Brown, let
Speaker 1: me see him. I feel that Deonta Thompson I've seen
Speaker 1: enough and it's just really not working out. Although he
Speaker 1: has the speed and all that is just it's not
Speaker 1: working out right now as far as Alan hearns. He
Speaker 1: has his good moments. But from the beginning to up
Speaker 1: until this point, everything that I've seen, and I told
Speaker 1: you this Nick during the game. One of the things
Speaker 1: that I noticed he gets easily pushed around, like he
Speaker 1: catches a ball and then he's pushed back, like three
Speaker 1: more yards back. He's just like a little feather that
Speaker 1: you can easily just pop push him back. And I
Speaker 1: don't I don't like it. For what you're getting out
Speaker 1: of it is just to me, not really working out.
Speaker 1: So give me Noah Brown, bring him up and let's
Speaker 1: see what they can do. Are you making the assertion
Speaker 1: that Cole is not similarly pushed around? No, No, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I honestly don't know that there is a
Speaker 1: receiver on this team that I consider to be or
Speaker 1: not pushable around. Okay, yeah, obviously you're gonna get pushed Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you you put up a fight there, you just
Speaker 1: touch him. But I'm saying, I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: that I got I don't know that there are receivers
Speaker 1: on this team that you consider to be tough guys.
Speaker 1: And what I mean, I'm talking to the mold of
Speaker 1: Steve Smith type guys that they're gonna bow up when
Speaker 1: they get when somebody hits them, and they're probably gonna
Speaker 1: break that tackle, just what Dez was. Dez made his
Speaker 1: career off the guy comes to hit him, he bounces
Speaker 1: off the guy and he's off running, right. I don't
Speaker 1: know they got those kind of guys on this team.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure Mark Cooper is that kind of guy. Um,
Speaker 1: So I don't I don't know that that you're gonna
Speaker 1: get that kind of toughness from any of the guys
Speaker 1: on this receiving corps. That's not what we've seen him.
Speaker 1: But at a different level though, I think all around.
Speaker 1: They signed Alan Hearns to be you know, it's just
Speaker 1: kind of to be the number one on this this group.
Speaker 1: Um and now all of a sudden, you know he'll
Speaker 1: probably be number four, right, Well they signed three uh
Speaker 1: four four yeah, I mean yeah, when Cooper galloped Beasley
Speaker 1: and him, and then they signed Alan Hearns to be
Speaker 1: their bargain bin x. Like they said, this guy has
Speaker 1: shown potential, we can bring it out of them. There
Speaker 1: will be plays for him. With the way that they're
Speaker 1: keying on the run didn't work out, that can be
Speaker 1: an indictment of Dak or your offensive line, or hearns himself,
Speaker 1: or the play calling, probably all of the above. But
Speaker 1: they watched it for seven weeks and they said, we
Speaker 1: need a better receiver. That's my question too, Like what
Speaker 1: happens if you give up this number one pick and
Speaker 1: you find out that really it wasn't hearns, it wasn't.
Speaker 1: Maybe these other guys there, great teams. Let's take our
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Speaker 1: Football Back to the Break her back On the second
Speaker 1: segment of the show, before we went to break, Derek
Speaker 1: was going to post a very interesting question, so I'll
Speaker 1: let you finish well. It was I thought that this
Speaker 1: is a question that I had assumed everybody listening, I
Speaker 1: assume even people in this panel. I thought about, um
Speaker 1: because I heard you guys talking a little bit about
Speaker 1: this last night when you did the emergency podcast. By
Speaker 1: the way, you guys did a phenomenal job coming off
Speaker 1: that flight and jumping on there. Thank you really really
Speaker 1: great job. But um so is anybody just exhausted like
Speaker 1: about this that I was last night? Like I almost
Speaker 1: I felt, really and you know what what I thought,
Speaker 1: I know where We're getting to a really big topic here.
Speaker 1: But just like that whole trip and was almost like
Speaker 1: mentally exhausted. It was you know, it's just like it
Speaker 1: wasn't physically we didn't do a whole lot of thing.
Speaker 1: We didn't walk around a little bit, tackle anybody, No,
Speaker 1: but just mentally, I mean, just a lot going on,
Speaker 1: a lot of things, you know, in the game was
Speaker 1: was was crazy, And then that museum was kind of
Speaker 1: heavy too. That can sometimes zapp of your somber experience.
Speaker 1: It's a good experience, but it's is an experience that
Speaker 1: can take a lot out of you. I think just
Speaker 1: you get used to you know, the Cowboys throw you
Speaker 1: high heat for seven weeks and I'm setting getting ready,
Speaker 1: and then they just slider just all the way across
Speaker 1: the plate like no, Like I'm like I was the
Speaker 1: guy yesterday just lunging for the ball and just like
Speaker 1: just the worst swing, no plate discipline. I've never been
Speaker 1: more thrown off by it. A story, a news cycle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we get on the plane to leave and this is
Speaker 1: this is after the museum and all that, and I
Speaker 1: mean I should have known. I turned to Rob and
Speaker 1: I said, isn't it nice to not have to pull
Speaker 1: out your computer and work and write anything, you know,
Speaker 1: like we always have to do. We always have to
Speaker 1: do it, you know, after a game and this is
Speaker 1: you know, and and Dave's in front of us out,
Speaker 1: I mean, like knocked out. Snap. Then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it's just started. You know, you just start seeing phone
Speaker 1: people showing their phone to other people, so you know
Speaker 1: it's Dave was out the whole time, and literally woke up,
Speaker 1: turned around. It was like, what's up. Like, we just
Speaker 1: traded for Mark Hubert. Rob's got the story. It's done.
Speaker 1: We're waiting for the confirmation. We're gonna send it out.
Speaker 1: And he was just like what, like, really, are you
Speaker 1: messing with me? You didn't say that, but like, are
Speaker 1: you messing with me? We were on the buck waiting
Speaker 1: to go through security. I saw I was just watching
Speaker 1: and I saw Garrett get off the plane to the
Speaker 1: escalator thing and just talking on the phone, and I
Speaker 1: was wondering, I'm like, humm, what could he be talking?
Speaker 1: Everybody's here, yeah, yeah, And and the way his facial
Speaker 1: expressions and stuff, I'm like, this things serious. It was
Speaker 1: a very animated because I passed by him going on
Speaker 1: to the plane. He was pretty animated, so there was
Speaker 1: something going on. Yeah, but this this move is you know, well,
Speaker 1: should help him. I mean it should. This is a
Speaker 1: now move, which but they said, coach, he needs next year,
Speaker 1: year after that year. It's not just a now move,
Speaker 1: but it is a now move. That's what we said before.
Speaker 1: Is this for an is it panic button or is
Speaker 1: it down the road? And it's a little bit of both.
Speaker 1: I will I will allow that with that caveat yeah,
Speaker 1: because I think it's a big picture move too. Because absolutely,
Speaker 1: to get into the topic that we were getting into,
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper is the name, and the nineteen jerseys are
Speaker 1: the ones that are for sale. But this is he
Speaker 1: just got faster too. By nineteen o nine is a
Speaker 1: gross number, like darceiver, Yeah, nineteen. But now you're you
Speaker 1: know right, you can run everything everything about this move.
Speaker 1: It's it's all about Dak Prescott to me, like the
Speaker 1: whole thing, it's he needs you know, this is the
Speaker 1: Cowboys line of logic. Is he needs help? You know,
Speaker 1: it's it's not working with you know, Dak Prescott at
Speaker 1: this point in his career, he is not going to
Speaker 1: elevate receivers, you know, I mean Aaron Rodgers take seven
Speaker 1: undrafted free agents, and he's gonna make him look like
Speaker 1: Pro bowlers. Dak is not there, and that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have clearly come to that conclusion. They're bringing him some help.
Speaker 1: He's got nine games. We've seen it work with a
Speaker 1: top not receiver. You know, sixteen Dez was good, and
Speaker 1: I think that's something to remember. Amari Cooper doesn't need
Speaker 1: to be a one hundred and twenty yards per game
Speaker 1: type of guy. Dez finished with eight something in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: but he was just enough enough of a threat that
Speaker 1: had opened up the field for Cole, Beasley and Zeke
Speaker 1: and that's that's all Cooper needs to be. But Dak
Speaker 1: has to perform with that, and that's you got nine
Speaker 1: games this year and now certainly sixteen games next year. Like,
Speaker 1: let there be no doubt that Dak Prescott's going to
Speaker 1: be the starting quarterback in twenty nineteen. If that upsets you,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but what else are you going to do?
Speaker 1: I mean, you could conceivably throw a ton of money
Speaker 1: at Teddy Bridgewater, who does not have a better resume
Speaker 1: than Dak Prescott. Other than that, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: Draft another fourth round quarterback and hope for the best. No,
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's your guy in nineteen. I would bet right
Speaker 1: now they'll probably franchise him after that, assuming he's even
Speaker 1: remotely good next year. I think this trade to me
Speaker 1: means Dak is the starting quarterback for at least like
Speaker 1: two more seasons. And that's why I think this is
Speaker 1: so important. And he's going to have to prove to
Speaker 1: them that he's worth further investment. But what happens if
Speaker 1: you get through this season and you realize you couldn't
Speaker 1: evaluate Cooper or Dak because, in my opinion, the problems
Speaker 1: that you're having on offense them mostly from the offensive line.
Speaker 1: And no, seriously, look at this last game. He got
Speaker 1: sacked four times. There were a number of times where
Speaker 1: he was trying to make a throw and could not
Speaker 1: make a throw because somebody was in his face, particularly
Speaker 1: the play where they end up giving up the touchdown
Speaker 1: on the fumble. I think that I think that this
Speaker 1: is a case where you may have great people at
Speaker 1: wide receiver. You might have a great wide receiver group.
Speaker 1: Let's assume it was a great wide receiver group. If
Speaker 1: the offensive line isn't doing its job, if they're not
Speaker 1: consistently being able to run specifically on the road, which
Speaker 1: is that's the narrative right now? Then does any of
Speaker 1: that really matter? And can you really truly evaluate Cooper
Speaker 1: and or Hearns and or Dak if the offensive line
Speaker 1: isn't playing up to the level that you expect them
Speaker 1: to play, well, yeah, it is gonna be hard. It's
Speaker 1: hard to evaluate your offensive line. It's hard to evaluate
Speaker 1: your team if your offensive line is struggling like that
Speaker 1: and you know that they are no longer this elite
Speaker 1: offensive line anymore. I mean, there used to be three
Speaker 1: Pro bowlers that are playing great, and you know, Tyrn
Speaker 1: Smith is just not playing like an elite left tackle.
Speaker 1: Now I don't, I don't. He's he's not. He's good. Actually,
Speaker 1: he's good. He's one of the best in the league.
Speaker 1: He's still you know, he's still at that level. But
Speaker 1: you know, Zack Martin is really good. Connor Williams had
Speaker 1: the worst game I think of his career right there.
Speaker 1: He was really bad. And Lyle's not not making that
Speaker 1: that that jump either. I think Looney is probably your
Speaker 1: third best lineman right now. Um, if you saw the
Speaker 1: fumble that for the touchdown. Did anyone see Connor Williams
Speaker 1: on that play? Connor was blocking the guy that ended
Speaker 1: up scoring. He got called for holding the play before,
Speaker 1: which really, I mean that changed the whole game. That
Speaker 1: holding pilling was huge. But the next play he was
Speaker 1: holding worse than that, and they didn't call it. He
Speaker 1: was holding onto the guy's jersey and from the ground
Speaker 1: he's on the ground and holding his jersey and he
Speaker 1: didn't hold it well enough because Preston Smith's got the fumble.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was really really bad and Zack Martin
Speaker 1: tackling college move him to guard. It's an all pro.
Speaker 1: He's great. It hasn't worked like that yet for Connor Williams.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's not going to be, but but
Speaker 1: they you know, Looney's just holding his own and then
Speaker 1: he's right there. Lyle's not doing his thing and Tyrant
Speaker 1: gets beat more than he thought. And I actually think
Speaker 1: that a part. I've been thinking a lot about Tyrant.
Speaker 1: I actually think it's more plausible in my mind that
Speaker 1: the things we've seen that are not great plays from
Speaker 1: Tyran this year have a lot to do with him
Speaker 1: worrying about what's happening at guard. I really do believe that,
Speaker 1: because I cannot understand how a guy that was so
Speaker 1: just money you put him out there and he was
Speaker 1: shutting down. Whoever was coming around his corner now is
Speaker 1: giving up. I think just guys are just getting around him.
Speaker 1: That you would be like, there's no way that guy
Speaker 1: gets around him last year, and the only thing I
Speaker 1: can think of that's what's different is that he does
Speaker 1: have to rely on him a little, especially this last game.
Speaker 1: We saw one one play where they did a twist
Speaker 1: and Tyrn was late getting off his guy. You do
Speaker 1: wonder if he's having to ride that guy a little
Speaker 1: bit longer, that's that's going down because I don't trust
Speaker 1: that my guard can just step right in and stop
Speaker 1: him in stone wall him. So I got to hold
Speaker 1: a little longer, and now all of a sudden, that
Speaker 1: guy gets around me. You, I mean, you might be right,
Speaker 1: and I mean, there's no way to know without talking
Speaker 1: to Tyron and the coaches. I would guess, but you
Speaker 1: don't think it's just possible that Tyron Smith is already
Speaker 1: approaching a decade in the league and has had chronic
Speaker 1: issues with his back, which is a big problem for anybody.
Speaker 1: I mean, I have back problems in it. I suck
Speaker 1: at just sitting in a desk all day. You're not
Speaker 1: a world class athlete though, No, absolutely not, And there
Speaker 1: might not be a better there might. But he's been playing.
Speaker 1: He's been playing with those same injuries. Yeah, and and
Speaker 1: umulate over time. I mean, you get older, you have
Speaker 1: more injuries, you put more wear and tear on it,
Speaker 1: get it. None of that has shown up on the
Speaker 1: injury report, first of all, and second of all, on
Speaker 1: the injury report all the time. Is he on the
Speaker 1: injury report? Was he's been on the injury report? Was
Speaker 1: he in on the injury report last week? I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure he was with a back injury or neck injury.
Speaker 1: Who knows. All I'm saying is all I'm saying. Is
Speaker 1: the point I'm making is just that I think that
Speaker 1: it's probably pretty plausible that what you're seeing from Tymas Smith,
Speaker 1: at least those players that are that are negative plays
Speaker 1: for him, have something to do with the fact that
Speaker 1: he's having to give more thought and more effort to
Speaker 1: making sure he doesn't hang out his rookie to drop
Speaker 1: aft ankle all last week ankle back, okay, And that's
Speaker 1: and that's affecting him as much as anything else in
Speaker 1: my opinion. Now, remember now that the right guard next
Speaker 1: to him has never been a guy that's a pro
Speaker 1: bowler anyways. But the type of player they have right
Speaker 1: now is probably not helping him because Ron Leary was
Speaker 1: a big dude. Yeah, I mean, and and even Jonathan Cooper.
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are are big type players. And
Speaker 1: and that's Connor Williams is a little bit more of
Speaker 1: a finesse guard um and he hasn't got the technique.
Speaker 1: He's not built like a guard right now. And Zack
Speaker 1: Martin is kind of a finesse cao if Zack Martin
Speaker 1: doesn't really just pancake people, but his technique is amazing
Speaker 1: and that's what makes him the best in the game.
Speaker 1: But I think that that play you just said, if
Speaker 1: you had a little bit more girth there, if you
Speaker 1: had a bigger body, that you feel like, all right,
Speaker 1: this guy's gonna hold his own more. And I think
Speaker 1: that's kind of an issue and that's something that you
Speaker 1: got to learn. I mean, Connor Williams is gonna to
Speaker 1: get Here's the question is that I'm seeing a lot
Speaker 1: of people asking this how much is due to the
Speaker 1: coaching part of it on the all line because or
Speaker 1: is it more just the execution of it that's it.
Speaker 1: I think it's nine that I really believe that. I
Speaker 1: heard it yesterday in the museum, which is bad. I
Speaker 1: shouldn't really be talking about that. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: but but that came up. I heard people talking about
Speaker 1: it then. I've heard people talk about it back in February.
Speaker 1: I've heard a player on one of the starters say,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do what we do. I don't know how
Speaker 1: much this guy is going to help us, talking about
Speaker 1: Paul Alexander. So it didn't even start off well. And
Speaker 1: and I don't think that thing has worked out. I'll
Speaker 1: be shocked if he's the offensive line coach next year.
Speaker 1: I really will. Yeah. I think there's so many problems
Speaker 1: that are happening you have to address. You have to
Speaker 1: say what's different. It's different obviously there were different players,
Speaker 1: but you would expect that the coach is going to
Speaker 1: be able to coach up the rookie. He's gonna be
Speaker 1: able to get him ready to go. And it just
Speaker 1: hasn't worked out. And I want, sorry, Dave, I want
Speaker 1: Frederick Martin and Tyrn Smith. I want them that they've
Speaker 1: been around long enough. Pick the guy, Pick the guy
Speaker 1: that's gonna work. Who do you know who? Who who
Speaker 1: will push you to pick their coach? Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, let's at least have some input in a
Speaker 1: little bit. You know, maybe you're about that quarterbacks. I've
Speaker 1: never heard about it with a no line. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying this supposedly this good. Maybe that is
Speaker 1: the right way to go. And it's it's tough for coaches,
Speaker 1: it really is. Now he's been coaching twenty seven years,
Speaker 1: so he's like, this is the way I do things.
Speaker 1: It's always these old tight end coaches would come in
Speaker 1: and try to coach Witten like, Okay, it's a little
Speaker 1: bit different. And yeah, and I think that's a that's
Speaker 1: a big part of this thing as well. I don't
Speaker 1: think that has meshed well with old school theories and
Speaker 1: stuff with and I thought it would. I would. I
Speaker 1: would really thought that that would be. Wow, you got
Speaker 1: this guy and he's got great tools to work with.
Speaker 1: That has not worked. He's done an awesome job of
Speaker 1: deflecting because we were supposed to be talking about the quarterback. Well,
Speaker 1: but I think you already addressed that, and that's why
Speaker 1: I kind of took in a little different direction because
Speaker 1: I think the offensive line is just as much a
Speaker 1: part of this as the quarterback. But I guess I
Speaker 1: was just going to ask the question going further. Do
Speaker 1: you think that Amari Cooper makes Dak and or the
Speaker 1: offensive line better? Is he that kind of player? Well,
Speaker 1: and that's the big thing for me is to answer
Speaker 1: your question more directly, number one, And I hear you.
Speaker 1: The offensive line has certainly been a problem, especially on
Speaker 1: the road, and it bums me out to watch Tyrn
Speaker 1: and Lyle Colins struggle because I'm big fans of both
Speaker 1: of them as people, and they've obviously played well, Tyring
Speaker 1: more so than Lyall, but they've both played here in
Speaker 1: their cowboy criers. Anyway, to answer the question more directly,
Speaker 1: you Dak Prescott is a quarterback or base I mean,
Speaker 1: everything has to be perfect for him to play up
Speaker 1: to the potential you need him to, which is it's
Speaker 1: a problem in the modern NFL. Like that's really not
Speaker 1: something that I'm trying to hear, but that's what we've
Speaker 1: seen so far, is like when his offensive line is
Speaker 1: kicking everybody's ass and his running back has got room
Speaker 1: to run, and his receivers are getting open and he's
Speaker 1: got time to find them. They can be pretty good.
Speaker 1: When any part of that equation falls apart, it doesn't work.
Speaker 1: And that's not a description of a quarterback that I
Speaker 1: want to give a ton of money to. But this
Speaker 1: trade again, to me, indicates that there they at least
Speaker 1: want to explore this and see where it goes for
Speaker 1: at least another season. If not to they're giving him
Speaker 1: another player to work with. I think what they need
Speaker 1: to do is give him a different offense to work with.
Speaker 1: I really believe that revamp the whole thing. Listen, Lenahan
Speaker 1: came in here to work with Tony Romo, and they
Speaker 1: did some really good things together. But but I don't think,
Speaker 1: and they've tried, and I get twenty sixteen that that
Speaker 1: was magical what happened there, But but I don't think
Speaker 1: that this offensive. I don't think Lenahan works well with
Speaker 1: dak as far as every single week consistently, the guy
Speaker 1: had eighty two yards rushing. He had Jacksonville on his
Speaker 1: toes the whole game. You know, they were throwing deep,
Speaker 1: they were going into around, they were doing things, and
Speaker 1: then they come to Washington and it's completely different. It's
Speaker 1: just been back and forth, back and forth, back and forth,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, and I talked to my eleven
Speaker 1: year old daughter last night and she goes, I got
Speaker 1: it figured out. This team wins, one loses, one win,
Speaker 1: one's losing one. I was like, well, you got it
Speaker 1: figured out right there. That's it. That's the story of
Speaker 1: this team and franchise for the last few years. And
Speaker 1: but but why is that? Can I can I play
Speaker 1: Devil's advocate on that? Because I was watching the just
Speaker 1: the kinds of play calls that they were they were running,
Speaker 1: and it seemed like there were opportunities where Dak could
Speaker 1: have run the ball. There were run pass options where
Speaker 1: you know, basically he's back, he looks at the defense,
Speaker 1: he makes the determination Zeke should get the ball. Could
Speaker 1: it be? Could it be that maybe what we're seeing
Speaker 1: is just that some teams that say we're going to
Speaker 1: take away Dak versus taken away Zeke when it comes
Speaker 1: to run pass option those games, it actually works because
Speaker 1: if Zeke's getting the ball, they know how to stop
Speaker 1: Zeke when he gets the ball because they got enough
Speaker 1: guys in the box to do it. They can't account
Speaker 1: for Dak when they leave him as the guy that
Speaker 1: can keep the pull it back and run. Could that
Speaker 1: be a part of the issue here as to why
Speaker 1: we're seeing wins when it's one way and loss of
Speaker 1: versus the other. Is it more defense driven offense driven? Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly that part of it exactly, you know,
Speaker 1: to answer that, But I'll say this, the final two
Speaker 1: drives of the game, the receivers didn't get any better.
Speaker 1: But and obviously they're playing in a little bit more
Speaker 1: of a prevent thing to make sure you don't get
Speaker 1: beat deep. But Dak to me looked like he was
Speaker 1: a run more, you know, run first type guy. Like
Speaker 1: when it was there in any of the yards the
Speaker 1: any yards they run, run, run, and they spread things out.
Speaker 1: You didn't see a lot of tight ends out there.
Speaker 1: You saw a spread out team. And I think the
Speaker 1: receiver's now are gotten better with Cooper, but I think
Speaker 1: they need to think like that more. He in his mind,
Speaker 1: he was like, I'm running, I'm running, I'm doing this.
Speaker 1: He needs to do that more so Is that on
Speaker 1: him more than it is the offensive coordining? Well, both,
Speaker 1: I mean they need to say, hey, you're a runner.
Speaker 1: You're a runner. I don't. I don't. I mean if
Speaker 1: he's if he's trying to make these passing yards to
Speaker 1: make his money or whatever, I mean, that's not gonna work.
Speaker 1: He needs to be a running quarterback. And I think
Speaker 1: that showed him those final two drives, and his toughness
Speaker 1: is off the chart. To me, he's the type of
Speaker 1: guy you want as your quarterback. You wish he was
Speaker 1: a little bit better to hang onto the ball, but
Speaker 1: that's not really been his m o um. He's fighting
Speaker 1: for He's dive in face first. You know, he did
Speaker 1: all game long to questions to take that shot, and
Speaker 1: you said it he was gonna take his licks. He did.
Speaker 1: He took that hit. I know what. He comes back,
Speaker 1: but he's already taken a hit like that. Okay, can
Speaker 1: action protocol and all games on the line. There's the
Speaker 1: goal line he's flying for. I mean, there is no
Speaker 1: seventeen in Dak Prescott. You know he's running. No. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I admire the crap out of that guy, which you know,
Speaker 1: same thing with Tyrn and Lyle Like I hate having
Speaker 1: to dog him with the way this offense has been
Speaker 1: playing because I root, like hell for that guy. But
Speaker 1: it is what it is through seven weeks of the season. Again,
Speaker 1: to answer your question more directly, because I have so
Speaker 1: many thoughts in my head. This has been a good
Speaker 1: conversation one way. You know, if we're thinking of Amari
Speaker 1: Cooper as a first round pick, if if you're offensive,
Speaker 1: you know, if you can't evaluate it because you're offensive line,
Speaker 1: I think that's BS. But well, you know what your
Speaker 1: problem spot is. I mean, look at the offense heading
Speaker 1: into the draft. You don't have a first round pick.
Speaker 1: You need a tight end. And then what I mean, no,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I'm purely thinking about and then what I mean,
Speaker 1: identify your need signing him? Who when he is a
Speaker 1: free agent? We're signing him, right, I would think so,
Speaker 1: but our own shot back whatever, I don't want to
Speaker 1: do that, to have done this in a month. Yeah, seriously, Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: all right, fine, we can talk about that. There's so
Speaker 1: many things that this trade changes. You think about sixty
Speaker 1: seven million dollars in cap room and what all of
Speaker 1: that means. Maybe you're active in free agent more than
Speaker 1: you would be normally because you don't have a first
Speaker 1: round pick. You can find Hey, you found Connor Williams
Speaker 1: in the second round, and for all the criticism, I
Speaker 1: think he's been much more good than bad and he
Speaker 1: will be better next year. I guarantee. Yeah, you can
Speaker 1: find yourself a center if you think you need one.
Speaker 1: You can find yourself a guard. You don't want to
Speaker 1: protect yourself, you don't need for or tackle. I don't
Speaker 1: think that would be crazy, um so or or again.
Speaker 1: Free agency, you're gonna have money to spend, So it's
Speaker 1: almost kind of you know, it sucks to get rid
Speaker 1: of that first round pick, but I'm kind of relieved
Speaker 1: to have receiver sort of settled. Like I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: Gallup is a yeah. Is it settled? Yes? Why it
Speaker 1: freaking itself? First round pick? It's settled from the standpoint
Speaker 1: that you've given away the first round and pick. You've
Speaker 1: now lasted yourself to this guy. He's going to be
Speaker 1: your guy. What I'm saying is, is it settled from
Speaker 1: the standpoint of production? Well, are you going or are
Speaker 1: you going to be looking back a year from now
Speaker 1: saying oh, I don't know about bending a first round
Speaker 1: pick because I don't know if we got the production,
Speaker 1: what do you want to spend nine million dollars? Now
Speaker 1: on your third on your third receiver, because Cole has
Speaker 1: made it pretty clear where he thinks his value is
Speaker 1: and he's about to be a free agent, and you've
Speaker 1: got Cooper, You've got Gallop, and yeah, it would be
Speaker 1: nice to have him in the mix. But at that price,
Speaker 1: I don't know what would it costs a franchise Cole.
Speaker 1: That would is that up there with the do they
Speaker 1: have like a slot receiver? No? No, No, that would
Speaker 1: be one of the That would be one of the
Speaker 1: worst moves you could make, because because think about it's
Speaker 1: it's Odell, It's yeah, who are they? That's why I
Speaker 1: was asking the question, because I was like, is it
Speaker 1: going to be with the other receivers or is it
Speaker 1: gonna be with slot receivers? If I could figure out
Speaker 1: to do a slot receiver franchise and I'm all in,
Speaker 1: way right, but I'm not. I'm not not. Only this
Speaker 1: team only ever uses three at a time, and you've
Speaker 1: got two of them locked in for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 1: If Cole Beasley doesn't have a future here, you can draft.
Speaker 1: You can find a guy with that skill set without
Speaker 1: spinning a ton of ta. Tavon could be that guy.
Speaker 1: Maybe well, he's coming up. He's not under contract. I
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, but maybe they resign him if
Speaker 1: they think it's worth The is no no, no disrespect
Speaker 1: at all intended to Cole Beasley. He is a matchup nightmare.
Speaker 1: He's been the best at receiver this year's season for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. You can find that skill set much easier,
Speaker 1: I think than the X the bona fide outside. Uh
Speaker 1: Trey Quinn comes to mind, and he's on I R
Speaker 1: for the Redskins right now anyway, but he was mister
Speaker 1: irrelevant and had he not gotten hurt, he was gonna
Speaker 1: be a starter for that offense. I mean it's you
Speaker 1: can find that guy without spending a lot of resources
Speaker 1: to do it. And you got Zeke too. So I
Speaker 1: mean your skill players for the most part look fairly settled.
Speaker 1: You need a tight end and you need help on
Speaker 1: the line, depth, starter, whatever. Travis Frederick's health is going
Speaker 1: to play a role in that. We'll see. But so
Speaker 1: but you But your argument earlier was you're tied to
Speaker 1: the quarterback. At this point, you think this move says
Speaker 1: you're tied to the quarterback, So you're not worried about
Speaker 1: the fact that you'd have to get a quarterback this
Speaker 1: year with at least you are he's going to be
Speaker 1: your starter next year. I bet my life, and then
Speaker 1: I would guess probably in twenty twenty two if I
Speaker 1: had to bet, so you got Oh yeah, let me
Speaker 1: just give my mouth shut. Why why radio shows the objective? Right? Right? No?
Speaker 1: I just you know, you guys keep going back and
Speaker 1: forth on different I know, I know, so I have
Speaker 1: so many different thoughts in my head, and one of
Speaker 1: them being like, I hate and I understand. Yes, the
Speaker 1: old line is not playing well or at least to
Speaker 1: the level that we all expect. But I hate using
Speaker 1: that as an excuse because how many an excuse it is.
Speaker 1: It is. It is the whole point of again, the
Speaker 1: whole point of what we did on the show is
Speaker 1: we're we're supposed to analyze, and analyze means you look
Speaker 1: at the things that you think are problems, you look
Speaker 1: at the things that you think are good, and you
Speaker 1: make an analysis. The point is the offensive line has
Speaker 1: not been what they expected it to be. And by
Speaker 1: the way this whole thing is built around, they were
Speaker 1: going to have a dominant offensive line. Their whole offensive
Speaker 1: philosophy is built around the concept of having a starting
Speaker 1: with a dominant offensive line. So if the offensive line
Speaker 1: is not dominant, how is the whole thing going to work?
Speaker 1: Like that's the most important key to what they want
Speaker 1: to do offensively? How many offensive lines in the whole
Speaker 1: NFL there are great? How many are there? They are great?
Speaker 1: How many? How many teams have built their offensive around
Speaker 1: having a great offensive line? Look, I don't care, But
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is I don't have an answer for that. No,
Speaker 1: that's good. You've gone great moments out of your offensive line.
Speaker 1: And there comes times and past years, right, there comes
Speaker 1: times where yes, you're not gonna be able to rely
Speaker 1: on one specific aspect of your offense and you need
Speaker 1: other people to work. Like I can't be fitting you
Speaker 1: food in your mouth all the time, Like at one
Speaker 1: point you need to learn to grab your own spoon
Speaker 1: and fit it on your own. You know, I get
Speaker 1: all the amber. I'm not saying. I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: these other guys don't have responsibilities. I'm not saying the
Speaker 1: receiver shouldn't bear some responsibility, quarterback shouldn't be responsibility, Zike
Speaker 1: shouldn't be responsibility. My point is that if you want
Speaker 1: to look at why things aren't working the way they're
Speaker 1: supposed to work on this offense as we expected it too.
Speaker 1: I think it starts with the offensive line, because they're
Speaker 1: not playing and they were the part that you thought
Speaker 1: going into the year that was the part of this
Speaker 1: offense that you felt none of us have question marks
Speaker 1: about this offensive line until Frederick went down and then
Speaker 1: it was like, well maybe, but we're like, Noah, they're
Speaker 1: still good enough. They're good and what we're seeing right
Speaker 1: now is they're not playing to the level of what
Speaker 1: you expected. This offense. This philosophy and the way they
Speaker 1: want to play offense is all predicated on the offensive
Speaker 1: line playing really really exceptionally well. True, But in my
Speaker 1: personal opinion and from what I've seen so far, although
Speaker 1: they have struggle, I don't think that it's been horrific
Speaker 1: enough and super super bad to where you're able to
Speaker 1: move the ball at all. I'm not I'm not what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm not saying it's been horrific. Did you
Speaker 1: ever hear me say that's not what i'd say done,
Speaker 1: but what I said it was good enough to help
Speaker 1: you to let you or allow you to move the
Speaker 1: ball in score like that has. Yes, I get it, it
Speaker 1: it has been an issue. I absolutely agree, but not
Speaker 1: to the point where that absolutely ruins your game. What
Speaker 1: what did Dave say earlier? He said, in order for
Speaker 1: this quarterback to be successful, lots of things have to
Speaker 1: go right. That starts with the offensive line. He's gonna
Speaker 1: need time, the running GA game's gonna have to be on.
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Speaker 1: Did you guys notice that another first round pick has
Speaker 1: been traded? Yes? Eli Apple was awaint. I didn't see
Speaker 1: what it was for now, fourth and seventh, Oh, fourth
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventh, in twenty it's fun to dog pile
Speaker 1: on the Cowboys. No, I wasn't dog I'm just saying
Speaker 1: for a point of reference. Ye, that's what's happened. But
Speaker 1: Eli Apple hasn't happened tenth of a career that Amari
Speaker 1: Cooper on and off, like they've had problems with him
Speaker 1: in the locker. I said this that yesterday and I'll
Speaker 1: say it again because it only it's only happened nine
Speaker 1: times in the history of the NFL where a receiver
Speaker 1: comes into the league has a thousand yards in the
Speaker 1: first two years that he did that. His third year
Speaker 1: wasn't as good, and this is his fourth year right now,
Speaker 1: and it's kind of been off and on a little bit.
Speaker 1: But Eli Apple did not come into the league and
Speaker 1: doing anything like that. Um. So that's it's hard to dupin.
Speaker 1: Even in that third year he had seven touchdowns, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the most most of his career. Yeah, he's had three
Speaker 1: straight years of five touchdowns. And the Cowboys a wide
Speaker 1: receiver has only done that here one time in the
Speaker 1: last eighteen years. No, I mean no, in the last
Speaker 1: thirteen years. Um, and that was dos Bryant's Brent. What
Speaker 1: about the guy that ended up coming here for a
Speaker 1: year he had ten touchdowns? Yeah, year was that eleven?
Speaker 1: Lauren Robinson? You know what I mean? He had for
Speaker 1: his whole career with the Cowboys eleven. So I mean
Speaker 1: he had Yeah, I mean that happens. Beasley has gone
Speaker 1: gone under a little bit, but I mean to did it,
Speaker 1: and then before that and then after that it was
Speaker 1: just death. So this just shows you a level of
Speaker 1: consistency of scoring touchdowns and that's what happens when, if
Speaker 1: anything else, you can just run by people. He's a
Speaker 1: big play guy. I mean he's got some long touchdowns too.
Speaker 1: My memory is hazy, but the Saints definitely don't have
Speaker 1: a first in nineteen and now they don't have a
Speaker 1: fourth or a seventh, and oh all right, they don't
Speaker 1: have a first or a fourth and they I don't
Speaker 1: think they have a third either because of another deal
Speaker 1: that they did. So hey, they're going all in. Many
Speaker 1: should I mean you look at their team, Yeah, they
Speaker 1: should go out. They don't not alone much as longer
Speaker 1: they're gonna have Breefe, so they should be going all in.
Speaker 1: There's really only one team in the NFC that looks
Speaker 1: like it can touch them, so and they look like
Speaker 1: they can definitely touch them. Oh yeah, I mean the
Speaker 1: Rams look great, but the good team, it's a really
Speaker 1: good team. That is a good team. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: trying to better with me here? Okay, all right, let's
Speaker 1: go let's take out let's try to take out the
Speaker 1: play calling, which is kind of hard to do because
Speaker 1: it kind of goes hand in hand with, you know,
Speaker 1: the performances happening on the field. But let's take it
Speaker 1: out for a second. Now. Once you start evaluating your players,
Speaker 1: and now that you have a Marii Cooper in the mix,
Speaker 1: let's say things just kind of keep going how they've
Speaker 1: been so far. What is the problem? Who is the problem?
Speaker 1: What do you do to change it? The question? Why
Speaker 1: don't you ask what you're really trying to ask? Honestly,
Speaker 1: I mean, if it's if it goes the way that
Speaker 1: it's continue you to go, I think I still go
Speaker 1: back to what I've been saying. I think your quarterback
Speaker 1: in your offensive line of where that's the genesis, because
Speaker 1: I don't, honestly, okay, what's happened to the first is
Speaker 1: going to answer the question? Okay, you're asking if they
Speaker 1: need to make a coaching change? Really is what you're
Speaker 1: as is that where you're going with this? No, Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's what That's a different conversation, and
Speaker 1: I think we all kind of agree on that. What
Speaker 1: is the conversation? Okay, Okay, okay, listen, you got the team.
Speaker 1: Let's say the season ended and it ended with it
Speaker 1: being kind of how it is. Okay, even with a
Speaker 1: Maori Cooper in the mix, what are you freaking doing?
Speaker 1: Although they went down through different changes you can make
Speaker 1: in the draft. I mean, think about all the aspects
Speaker 1: of this. How many different elements can you actually improve
Speaker 1: just one person only thing? The only thing you can
Speaker 1: hope is, I think for the offensive line, when you're
Speaker 1: gonna hope is that Connor Williams is better in year two.
Speaker 1: You're giving me an offseason to get stronger, to get bigger,
Speaker 1: and you hope that he gets better and as a
Speaker 1: part of getting better, that helps Tying get better. You
Speaker 1: hope that Frederick is back and healthy and ready to play.
Speaker 1: Although I don't think Joe Looney has been a big
Speaker 1: problem for this same I think he's done well and
Speaker 1: he's under contract yes nineteen, And then I think you
Speaker 1: have to hope that Lyle plays better. I think a
Speaker 1: lot of I think that's where it starts. Now, you're
Speaker 1: not changing. We just finished saying you're not about to
Speaker 1: change the quarterback. Quarterback is going to be here. Well,
Speaker 1: you can change the calls that he makes. You can
Speaker 1: change the guy in the room. No offense to telling more.
Speaker 1: But I would rather do the Paul Alexander approach at quarterback.
Speaker 1: I would rather a quarterback coach that's been around, you know,
Speaker 1: for the fifteen twenty years, that's developed, other than a
Speaker 1: guy that has never won a game and he's not
Speaker 1: played in nearly as many games as the guy he's coaching.
Speaker 1: So I mean, like that's just young, young and young,
Speaker 1: and everyone blind leading the blind, and we just all
Speaker 1: I've said that from day one. There's nobody in that
Speaker 1: room that's got any experience. Dak is the most experienced
Speaker 1: guy playing football than that whole room, and he's still young.
Speaker 1: Were coaching football Because to be honest with I don't
Speaker 1: think you have to play the position for a long
Speaker 1: time in order to be great at being able to
Speaker 1: coach it, right, But I think you have to coach
Speaker 1: it for a while. I would think, I mean it,
Speaker 1: especially if you have a young quarterback. Wade Wilson, he
Speaker 1: had a lot experience to answer. If it finishes like this,
Speaker 1: only halfway through the season. But if it finishes like this,
Speaker 1: either below or at five hundred, with the offense ranked
Speaker 1: in the last eight of the league, there's gonna be changed,
Speaker 1: like there's no way around it. And only Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: knows if that means, like right at the top, Jason Garrett,
Speaker 1: I don't know. And then there's no point in trying
Speaker 1: to speculate on that not going to be a lot
Speaker 1: of player change. You wouldn't, No, No, I'm I mean
Speaker 1: specifically with the coaching already. You know you're talking about
Speaker 1: the offensive line coach, the offensive coordinator Scott Lanahan is
Speaker 1: arguably more criticized than Jason Garrett is. To be honest
Speaker 1: with you, if this offense finishes the season as bad
Speaker 1: as it has been through the first seven games, there
Speaker 1: has to be changed. And that's and they know that,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not saying anything controversial, they know that they're
Speaker 1: seeing enough changes in the players as far as player goes,
Speaker 1: and it's still the same thing is still happening. So
Speaker 1: that actually leads you to thinking, Okay, it's not about
Speaker 1: the player or the talent on the field is more
Speaker 1: And I don't think I don't think it's a coincidence
Speaker 1: that this trade happened right now. You know, you think
Speaker 1: back to the bye week. The last time this team
Speaker 1: really struggled in the first half of the season was fifteen.
Speaker 1: They went on the bye week, they benched Joseph Randall,
Speaker 1: they promoted Matt Castle. I think they did something else too,
Speaker 1: But you've got a week to acclimate things in practice.
Speaker 1: You've still got half the season to play. They don't
Speaker 1: want to give up on the season, but they're making
Speaker 1: moves that are saying, we're going to try to improve
Speaker 1: this because we are not okay with what it is
Speaker 1: right now, and if it doesn't get better, then the
Speaker 1: changes will only get bigger when the season's over. And
Speaker 1: I love that you just did that, because later this week,
Speaker 1: one of our days on this show, we're going to
Speaker 1: talk about what could be some potential changes, because you're right,
Speaker 1: during the bye week is where they tend to try
Speaker 1: to start making changes. One of them we've already seen. Obviously,
Speaker 1: they went out and got what they consider to be
Speaker 1: a number one callible wide receiver. Are there other changes
Speaker 1: that maybe they look at. Do they look at maybe
Speaker 1: shuffling this offensive line. I know we all kind of
Speaker 1: throw that one off in stiff arm it. But is
Speaker 1: that something worth considering that maybe you should put Lyo
Speaker 1: back down at guard because he was pretty good when
Speaker 1: he was playing at guard and it does give a
Speaker 1: little more experience there. It's a tyrant, so maybe that
Speaker 1: helps your left side a little bit more than you
Speaker 1: would hurt your right side. There's arguments to be made
Speaker 1: for changes at different places, and I think that's something
Speaker 1: we should talk about. When is our argument gonna happen?
Speaker 1: Why don't we try that for like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: Thursday or Friday. I mean, if you're gonna Friday, maybe Thursday,
Speaker 1: maybe okay, or maybe next Monday, who knows. All right,
Speaker 1: well are you having guys? That is all the time
Speaker 1: we have for today. Thank you for all the energy
Speaker 1: y'all brought here on the show, all this fun talk.
Speaker 1: Hopefully it works out for the Cowboys. We'll see. We
Speaker 1: don't know, but whatever, we'll figure it out eventually. Thanks
Speaker 1: for your energy, whatever. For Derek Eagleton, Nikki Men, David Hellman.
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