Speaker 1: What's that at the foot of my bed, Spoky, I'm
Speaker 1: really sure it's dead. He's coming this way.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, and I'm said Nyron jesss.
Speaker 1: Hey boo, it's me Roz. Oh my god. This episode
Speaker 1: today is very fascinating to me. I talked to Rachel
Speaker 1: Stavis or r. H. Stavis as her writer name is
Speaker 1: on her book, which is called Sister of Darkness. She
Speaker 1: is an exorcist. This is my first exorcist and I
Speaker 1: am thrilled. Now you may have heard about her. She's
Speaker 1: she's been around for a couple of years publicly, and
Speaker 1: she's written this book, and she's appeared on television and
Speaker 1: done lots of media interviews. She actually has a piece
Speaker 1: that she wrote in this month's Cosmo, and I've heard
Speaker 1: about I've known about her for a little bit now.
Speaker 1: And when it comes to this kind of a thing,
Speaker 1: it can be very polarizing, so I encourage you all
Speaker 1: to have an open mind. It kind of reminds me
Speaker 1: of that Travel Channel documentary about the Warrens that I
Speaker 1: was recently watching, and I recommended that a lot of
Speaker 1: you have watched, and I was pleased to hear so
Speaker 1: many of you enjoyed it as well. But there's a
Speaker 1: quote that Ed Warren says in there, and I'm paraphrasing,
Speaker 1: but it's along the lines of the difference between a
Speaker 1: skeptic and a close minded person. And you know, a
Speaker 1: skeptic is somebody that still has an open mind. So
Speaker 1: I think it's really good to be skeptical when we're
Speaker 1: talking about the paranormal and exorcisms and demons and all
Speaker 1: this stuff. But yeah, just keep an open mind. I
Speaker 1: always have kind of a mental checklist when it comes
Speaker 1: to psychics or you know, really anybody that says that
Speaker 1: they can improve your life, and one of them is,
Speaker 1: is this person playing doctor when they're not really a doctor?
Speaker 1: Is this person charging massive sums of money? And the
Speaker 1: thing with her is that she doesn't even charge people.
Speaker 1: Can you believe that? So that to me kind of
Speaker 1: adds to my trust and what she says, she's not
Speaker 1: really trying to gain anything. She mentions when and I
Speaker 1: talked to her that people have wanted to make reality
Speaker 1: shows about her, she doesn't care. She's not in it
Speaker 1: for that. She's a successful writer. She actually we talk
Speaker 1: briefly about some of the things that she's written, but
Speaker 1: She's very well known in the video game and comic
Speaker 1: book world before she started pursuing this exorcism career. More
Speaker 1: which career. It's kind of an interesting thing to say,
Speaker 1: is since she doesn't charge, I really really think she
Speaker 1: just does this to help people, because she has this
Speaker 1: gift and she wants to share it with the world.
Speaker 1: The thing that makes her different from other quote unquote
Speaker 1: exorcists is she's not a priest. She's non denominational, but
Speaker 1: we kind of get into what that means for her
Speaker 1: as well. And she has the ability to visually see
Speaker 1: what she calls entity, which I think is very similar
Speaker 1: to what a lot of people consider to be demons.
Speaker 1: She can see these things and it's not necessarily what
Speaker 1: we're used to from movies and different accounts. She can
Speaker 1: remove these energies, these entities that cause all kinds of
Speaker 1: things that can cause physical pain, depression, all the way
Speaker 1: up to straight up what people think of as the devil.
Speaker 1: But I know from a lot of quote unquote exorcism
Speaker 1: cases that sometimes there's other issues going on, mental issues,
Speaker 1: different conditions that people don't go to a doctor and
Speaker 1: they think that it's a demon. And I talk to
Speaker 1: her about that as well, and we get into that
Speaker 1: in the second part next week, So keep that in
Speaker 1: mind in case any of those kinds of questions come
Speaker 1: up you're listening to this first part. So I had
Speaker 1: a bajillion questions for her. I've read her book called
Speaker 1: Sister of Darkness. I was actually reading it when we
Speaker 1: did this conversation, and she gave me so much that
Speaker 1: we actually decided to turn this into a two part episode.
Speaker 1: And we've also, of course got bonus clips on Patreon.
Speaker 1: I talked to her for a total of like around
Speaker 1: an hour and a half. She was very generous with
Speaker 1: her time. And on this week's Patreon she tells a
Speaker 1: story that she says she tells the people and it
Speaker 1: keeps them up at night, and it's a story of
Speaker 1: an entity that visited her in the night, and she's
Speaker 1: an exorcist and she had to keep the lights on
Speaker 1: all night because she was so afraid of whatever this
Speaker 1: presence was that visited her and axorsist, she's seen it
Speaker 1: all and she had to keep her lights on. So
Speaker 1: go to a patreon dot com slash Ross dress Falast
Speaker 1: to hear that and bonus clips from every week's episode.
Speaker 1: Also on Patreon. This week is my weekly video and
Speaker 1: this one is if you were at my last live
Speaker 1: show before everything really got crazy, I showed a video
Speaker 1: of my best friend's Sam Pancake and I going ghost hunting,
Speaker 1: or at least doing our best at a haunted hotel,
Speaker 1: allegedly haunted hotel in San Francisco, And so I put
Speaker 1: that video with some narration on it on my Patreon
Speaker 1: so you can see us walking around the hotel. And
Speaker 1: if nothing more, if you don't live in San Francisco,
Speaker 1: it's cool to see this really historic hotel called the
Speaker 1: Hotel Whitcomb. But I don't know. We think that there
Speaker 1: might have been paranormal activity. It's possible, it could be explained,
Speaker 1: but it's definitely like some weird was going on. Something
Speaker 1: else that I want to address before we move forward
Speaker 1: into today's episode is that last week I got a
Speaker 1: lot of messages and stuff in the Facebook group and
Speaker 1: and different people bringing to my attention that Thomas Dale
Speaker 1: mentioned that the Amneyville Horror House is now burnt down
Speaker 1: and it's no longer there, and that's actually not true.
Speaker 1: I think maybe he was confused and the house is
Speaker 1: still very much up. And I completely apologized that I
Speaker 1: did not even correct him, and so I take responsibility
Speaker 1: for that and I'm so sorry. But you guys are smart,
Speaker 1: you knew you know what's up. You guys stay on
Speaker 1: top of this stuff. So thank you for bringing that
Speaker 1: to my attention. Also in the Facebook group this week,
Speaker 1: I got.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: I was perusing through the Facebook group and I found
Speaker 1: some great stories from Joseph, and Joseph writes this first one,
Speaker 1: which is bonjour hi from Montreal, Quebec. This is my
Speaker 1: first post and I have a crazy ghost story to
Speaker 1: tell you. All right, let's hear with Joseph. I have
Speaker 1: always loved everything Baron, normal and witchy. However, this experience
Speaker 1: affirmed for me this stuff is real. This experience happened
Speaker 1: four months after my boyfriend and I moved into our
Speaker 1: lovely condo. It was eleven am during the day and
Speaker 1: I was finishing up my degree online with sm sn HU.
Speaker 1: My boyfriend was at work and I saw him leave
Speaker 1: and kissed him goodbye. Around eight forty five at eleven am,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting upright in our bed, typing away at a
Speaker 1: long essay. Suddenly I hear extremely loud footsteps coming down
Speaker 1: our long hallway to the bedroom. This is when shit
Speaker 1: got in all caps crazy. These footsteps were not imaginary,
Speaker 1: the sound was clear as day. I basically was about
Speaker 1: to stand up and go see who the hell was
Speaker 1: in the house with me when my boyfriend, who was
Speaker 1: at work, walked into our bedroom with the same clothes
Speaker 1: he left in. I was confused, why in the world
Speaker 1: would he come home early and not tell me? So
Speaker 1: I put the laptop on the other side of the
Speaker 1: bed and make to get up and talk to him. However,
Speaker 1: that certainly didn't happen. Before I could even stand up,
Speaker 1: my hearing went numb. Any outside noise was completely shut off.
Speaker 1: All I was left with was this sort of tunnel
Speaker 1: like vision and hearing to my boyfriend standing in the
Speaker 1: entrance of our bedroom. Disclaimer, at this time I was
Speaker 1: waiting for my permanent resident card and I didn't begin
Speaker 1: French immersion during that time. My boyfriend only spoke English
Speaker 1: with me, as I didn't speak his or his family's
Speaker 1: language yet. So through this tunnel like vision, this being
Speaker 1: that was my boyfriend spoke in French, which, as I said,
Speaker 1: my boyfriend wouldn't have addressed me with since I didn't
Speaker 1: speak yet. PS I speak French now, which makes this
Speaker 1: more creepy because I'll never forget this experience. Also, I
Speaker 1: must mention this being who was my boyfriend was not
Speaker 1: transparent or foggy in any way. He looked one hundred
Speaker 1: percent human. So my boyfriend starts to speak in French
Speaker 1: a long paragraph, but I couldn't understand. However, one phrase
Speaker 1: stuck out in my mind. Oh man, I don't even
Speaker 1: know if I can say this. I'm not even gonna
Speaker 1: try it. But he's The translation is I'm the spirit here.
Speaker 1: And after that was said, I made a shocked face,
Speaker 1: and the being that took my boyfriend's form and the
Speaker 1: tunnel like vision disappeared as if nothing had occurred. However,
Speaker 1: directly after the being disappeared, right in my ear came
Speaker 1: a child's laughter. The laugh wasn't in my head. This
Speaker 1: was out loud. It almost echoed in the room. I
Speaker 1: couldn't believe it. I was shocked. I called my boyfriend,
Speaker 1: who I interrupted at work in the middle of something
Speaker 1: and couldn't shut up. I had to tell him. He
Speaker 1: didn't come home, he was at work. Whatever being was
Speaker 1: here wanted to have some fun with me. I cannot
Speaker 1: describe to you the feelings of those moments. It was
Speaker 1: more than real, it was supernatural. It has never happened again. However,
Speaker 1: every time I share this story, I get chills and
Speaker 1: goose bumps. And then Tracy wrote in the comments that
Speaker 1: is super creepy, and Joseph wrote, it seems creepy, but honestly,
Speaker 1: I felt no malice or eve during this experience. If anything,
Speaker 1: I was super wicked excited about this experience. However, I
Speaker 1: have never heard about a spirit taking on the appearance
Speaker 1: of someone else until this happened and I researched it.
Speaker 1: It's quite common apparently. Thank you Joseph for sending me that. Yeah, doppelgangers,
Speaker 1: that's really a thing. Oh my god, it's like a clone.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it was trying to start a thrupple. Maybe
Speaker 1: it was some kind of energy that was like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: I already know your type. You like a guy that
Speaker 1: looks honestly exactly like your boyfriend. If I could just
Speaker 1: look like that, maybe we could start a relationship. I
Speaker 1: don't know. These are just ideas now. I am, of
Speaker 1: course not an expert at all, but from talking to
Speaker 1: Rachel today, I will say she talks about a type
Speaker 1: of what she calls entity that mimics people or familiar
Speaker 1: situations as a way to creep into your life. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm not saying that that's what
Speaker 1: this is. You can you can listen to what she
Speaker 1: has to say about that, but it's possible. We should
Speaker 1: probably get to the conversation with Rachel. And and again
Speaker 1: I want to point out that it's a two parter,
Speaker 1: so the second part of the episode will have EVPs
Speaker 1: which will come out next week, and it will also
Speaker 1: answer a lot of questions, a lot of further questions
Speaker 1: and questions like what what do we do about this?
Speaker 1: How do we how do we protect ourselves? And she'd
Speaker 1: tell she tells some really spooky stories next week as well.
Speaker 1: So here she is. I hope you enjoyed my conversation
Speaker 1: with our h Stavis on with the show. Hello Rachel,
Speaker 1: how are you?
Speaker 2: I am so good? How are you?
Speaker 1: I am great? Well, I'm actually, first of all, I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry I haven't had you on sooner. I have
Speaker 1: known about you, and I really am very obsessed with you,
Speaker 1: and I've had just such a big stack of books
Speaker 1: that I haven't had time to get to until Quarantine,
Speaker 1: And then now I've been reading your book and now
Speaker 1: I'm full blown obsessed with you, and I apologize so
Speaker 1: because I was.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: I'm about twenty pages away from finishing it, but kind
Speaker 1: of like, kind of like your profession, sometimes drag duty
Speaker 1: calls and I had to run and go do some drags,
Speaker 1: so I haven't quite finished it yet.
Speaker 2: But well, that's okay, thank you for reading. That's very
Speaker 2: nice of you.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's really good. So first of all,
Speaker 1: you're a non denominational exorcist. Can you tell us for
Speaker 1: anyone that doesn't know what is that mean?
Speaker 2: Yes, so you know it is kind of what it is, right,
Speaker 2: But unlike you know, being a priest or affiliate of
Speaker 2: the church, I kind of work with a lot of
Speaker 2: different high beings. I don't have any specific religion, and
Speaker 2: I take anybody who thinks that they might have something
Speaker 2: going on. But basically it is what it is. Like
Speaker 2: I say, I remove what people call demons what I
Speaker 2: call entities. I remove them from people and sometimes places.
Speaker 1: Are you doing it like in quarantine?
Speaker 2: I know, not really, it's definitely a lot harder. In quarantine,
Speaker 2: I was doing some Skype, not not the same kind
Speaker 2: of thing, but just you know, speaking to people about
Speaker 2: their guides and what's going on with their world and
Speaker 2: their energy, because that's essentially how this all works, which
Speaker 2: we can get into but in person not so much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I I was reading that you were talking
Speaker 1: about how entity can mess around with technology, So I
Speaker 1: can only imagine what that would be like over Zoom
Speaker 1: or Skype or something.
Speaker 2: It's it's actually crazy, like to try and do that
Speaker 2: over Skype. Is is its own kind of miracle? Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, but yeah, entities totally screws with like electronics
Speaker 2: the same way to sease people. Do you know how
Speaker 2: people are always talking about that. I'm sure you've heard
Speaker 2: that eight thousand times, Like you know, a drain's batteries
Speaker 2: or breaks things or whatever. Entity is like that times
Speaker 2: a thousand. So just as an example, in my I
Speaker 2: have a spirit room where you know, I work on people,
Speaker 2: and I used to have this picture up that was
Speaker 2: in glass. It was the picture of my grandparents from
Speaker 2: the nineteen fifties, and the glass just the glass would
Speaker 2: break so often that I had to move it out.
Speaker 1: Oh my God, like after an exorcism.
Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, So we don't allow phones there's no jewelry,
Speaker 2: there's nothing like that.
Speaker 1: So do you have people come to you that think
Speaker 1: that they have an entity or demon but it's not
Speaker 1: Does that happen.
Speaker 2: A lot sometimes? You know, it's it's kind of a
Speaker 2: weird thing because I think people have this idea about
Speaker 2: exorcism from movies, right, like this is how it goes,
Speaker 2: and the heads are spinning, and it's always kind of
Speaker 2: this what I call movie style entity, and it's not
Speaker 2: not always. I mean, listen, that happens. Let's not go crazy.
Speaker 1: Do you wear a plastic poncho just in case somebody
Speaker 1: spews green slime all over you?
Speaker 2: No, I do not. I will say. I will say
Speaker 2: that having someone throw up is not that uncommon. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's not as messy as you've seen in the movies.
Speaker 1: It does happen, yeah, you know, but.
Speaker 2: Sometimes people come with something as simple as they can't
Speaker 2: conceive or you know, they just feel blocked or they're
Speaker 2: not sure what's going on, and they do have entity,
Speaker 2: a different kind of entity, like like I say, there's
Speaker 2: like a spectrum of entity that's which again we can oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: but you know, sometimes they come in where they think
Speaker 2: they have something and they don't and it's actually trauma,
Speaker 2: which is what all of the stems from in the
Speaker 2: first place, right, right, Well.
Speaker 1: Because I imagine, I mean with religious exorcist, they probably
Speaker 1: get because that's what's so interesting about what you do,
Speaker 1: is that you see the you can see entity. And
Speaker 1: I don't know necessarily that a lot of religious exorcists
Speaker 1: have that ability, right, So I imagine that they probably
Speaker 1: get a lot of people that it's like my son
Speaker 1: is into heavy metal, or they're gay or you know,
Speaker 1: some of that kind of fun stuff, and it's like, no,
Speaker 1: you're not actually possessed by a demon. They're just cool.
Speaker 2: I don't know, well, right, And sometimes it's also the opposite, right,
Speaker 2: because they can't so it's like you have a checklist,
Speaker 2: it doesn't meet the criteria, so they must be faking,
Speaker 2: which I've had several clients like that. I've had several
Speaker 2: people come where, you know, they were turned down by
Speaker 2: the church saying that this child doesn't have it or
Speaker 2: there's no way. And I can see with my eyes
Speaker 2: is a very weird situation, but I can see in
Speaker 2: five seconds if they're faking or they're not.
Speaker 1: You know, really, yeah, because you can see, like you
Speaker 1: were saying that you can even look at a picture
Speaker 1: or you know, so you can see people on TV
Speaker 1: somebody that's like, I don't know, like a president or something.
Speaker 1: You see them on TV and you can see like
Speaker 1: an entity attached to them.
Speaker 2: Yes, I can see it in photos. I can see
Speaker 2: it in TV and film. It's very distracting when an
Speaker 2: actor has one. Oh I'm sure really hard to tune
Speaker 2: it out and like be in the moment with this movie,
Speaker 2: but yes, I can.
Speaker 1: Could you tune that out? Can you like turn it off?
Speaker 2: You know? So just it's some backstory for anybody who
Speaker 2: you know, has never heard of any of this. I
Speaker 2: was born with the ability to see entity. I didn't
Speaker 2: know what it was when I was a child. It
Speaker 2: was just very scary. I saw monsters, you know. So
Speaker 2: it was like kids that complain about monsters under the
Speaker 2: better monsters in the closet, and the parent comes and
Speaker 2: they're like, there's nothing there for me. That did not
Speaker 2: go away. But I learned not to speak about it
Speaker 2: because I learned, like from my mother very quickly that
Speaker 2: that meant I was crazy, And so I didn't speak
Speaker 2: about that for a very long time. And part of
Speaker 2: the not speaking about it was wishing to be normal
Speaker 2: whatever that is, right, and then trying to push it out.
Speaker 2: So I got very good at pushing it out for
Speaker 2: the most part, like basically blocking that site, and less
Speaker 2: something was extremely malevolent, then it would always come through anyway.
Speaker 2: But then when I became an adult, I had this
Speaker 2: very small, you know, not not the cliched kind of
Speaker 2: thing where you have like this near death experience, but
Speaker 2: I had like a fender bender, and it was like
Speaker 2: one thing too many that week, you know, and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden that site blew open again and I
Speaker 2: could not block it out. And you know, like the
Speaker 2: homeless guy who's screaming on the street, I could see
Speaker 2: what he was screaming at and it was just the
Speaker 2: floodgates opened and that was that. So I couldn't block
Speaker 2: it out anymore. And now, you know, I had I
Speaker 2: had to reason with myself like, okay, I'm either crazy
Speaker 2: or I have this for some some point. And I
Speaker 2: always joke that, you know, I sat down with the
Speaker 2: scotch and looked up to the heavens and was like,
Speaker 2: all right, people like, let me know what this is.
Speaker 2: And many scotches later, here we.
Speaker 1: Are and you use, you know, you connect with a
Speaker 1: lot of different higher beings and and that's so I'm
Speaker 1: sure people are always wondering, like what the non denominational
Speaker 1: aspect of it is, because you know, you you do
Speaker 1: talk about kind of working with Jesus and Buddha and
Speaker 1: Muhammad and you know, all all different types of higher
Speaker 1: beings and and so I guess what I'm always wondering,
Speaker 1: and this is something I've pondered many times throughout this
Speaker 1: show is just you know, is that a person to
Speaker 1: person thing?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 1: Is it what what one person believes is good and
Speaker 1: what what evil looks like? Is that different for everyone?
Speaker 1: Or how does that work?
Speaker 2: Well? When when we say like non denominational, I guess
Speaker 2: that's not exactly the right term. I don't practice any
Speaker 2: kind of religion, so that's why I consider myself non denominational.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I work with multiple high beings,
Speaker 2: so I guess you could call it multi denominational.
Speaker 1: Okay, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I guess that's a more accurate saying. But a lot
Speaker 2: of that is based on who is coming, because you know,
Speaker 2: it's very interesting, like people have varying ideas of what
Speaker 2: is spirit, what is the universe? What is God? What
Speaker 2: is angels? You know? Everybody has this this thing that
Speaker 2: they identify, and a lot of people who've come to me,
Speaker 2: believe it or not, are profoundly religious and then multi
Speaker 2: you know, tons of different religions and are afraid and
Speaker 2: they're always very surprised because what happens during the process
Speaker 2: of that is usually one of their high beings will
Speaker 2: step forward. So let's say you are you know, someone
Speaker 2: who is a Buddhist, you know, then that's that's what
Speaker 2: comes forward. If you are someone who is very Catholic,
Speaker 2: you know, so they all kind of come together to
Speaker 2: put the person at ease. If this makes sense, okay,
Speaker 2: And what really upsets people, because we're here to upset people,
Speaker 2: what really upsets people that I say, is that they
Speaker 2: also work together. These high beings, which people don't.
Speaker 1: Like get out of town.
Speaker 2: They don't like to hear it, they don't like it.
Speaker 2: They're like, no, my religion goes this way and your
Speaker 2: religion goes this way. And they're very separate. Actually no,
Speaker 2: they're not separate at all.
Speaker 1: Yeh. I know, so many of them. It's basically just
Speaker 1: about not being a bad.
Speaker 2: Person and yeah, like can we just not be assholes?
Speaker 2: Basically it is the underlying theme of all religions, right
Speaker 2: when they're not exploited for destructive benefit exactly.
Speaker 1: And it's like the just the whole idea of like, well,
Speaker 1: if you don't believe my religion, then you're bad. And
Speaker 1: it's like, it's really not about that. And I think
Speaker 1: of anyone you've seen that firsthand more than most people,
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, it's wonderful when you have someone
Speaker 2: who comes in both as like a skeptic and a
Speaker 2: very religious person who thinks like you might be crazy,
Speaker 2: but they you know, you're like a last hope, a
Speaker 2: last resort, and to change their minds completely at the
Speaker 2: end of it, where they become more open, more spiritual,
Speaker 2: more accepting because of what they've been through. So that's
Speaker 2: like something that I find to be one of the
Speaker 2: big joys of this job, if you will, if it's
Speaker 2: a job, is to change people's minds and to change
Speaker 2: how they live, you know, the unconscious versus consciousness of
Speaker 2: treating themselves with love and treating other people with love.
Speaker 1: Well, when you're talking about job, I okay, you you
Speaker 1: wrote the backstory to lower Croft Tomb writer.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, wow, that was a long time ago. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I actually glazed over in the book and I was like,
Speaker 1: what what what? That's amazing A.
Speaker 2: Million years ago. Now I'm an old woman, but I
Speaker 2: am a writer full disclosure. I do right write for
Speaker 2: film and television now, but I started in video games
Speaker 2: and comics.
Speaker 1: That is so cool. And you also worked with my
Speaker 1: number one idol who has also been on this podcast,
Speaker 1: El Viral Mistress of the Dark.
Speaker 2: Ah, I love her. I love her. Isn't she the best?
Speaker 1: She's the coolest and also has an amazing ghost story.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this story. He lived
Speaker 1: in a haunted house. Oh, it's good. What's your relationship
Speaker 1: to quote unquote ghosts? You know when we're talking about
Speaker 1: haunted houses and that sort of a thing. I know
Speaker 1: you talk about entities that are attached to houses, but
Speaker 1: what about human ghosts?
Speaker 2: So human ghosts are different than entities, right, So it's like,
Speaker 2: I kind of I'm I know you read the books,
Speaker 2: but for anybody who has not, is hearing me speak
Speaker 2: on anything for the first time, I like to compartmentalize.
Speaker 2: I just make it so much easier for myself. So
Speaker 2: you know, like reading the book, there's like this type
Speaker 2: of entity, this one, this one, this one just to
Speaker 2: help me. And so deceased people to me are like
Speaker 2: in a class by themselves. So decease people they don't
Speaker 2: attach in the way that entity does. You can't really
Speaker 2: be possessed quote unquote from a deceased person. You can
Speaker 2: be annoyed, you can be harassed, but they don't really possess.
Speaker 2: But what they do, and you're going to laugh because
Speaker 2: this is so true, is they don't shut up. They
Speaker 2: do not ever shut up decease people. The big difference
Speaker 2: between deceased people and entities, aside from that category, is
Speaker 2: that deceased people can't wait to be heard and seen,
Speaker 2: and entities do not. They want to hide and hide
Speaker 2: and hide. So decease people if you open up your
Speaker 2: medium ship abilities, because I believe absolutely everyone on this
Speaker 2: planet is born with medium ship abilities and the ability
Speaker 2: to speak to your spirit guide. So when people are
Speaker 2: ready to reopen that communication, they start realizing, wow, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of dead people who want to talk to me.
Speaker 1: Okay, So but does that happen that people come to
Speaker 1: you and they have like I mean, because can a
Speaker 1: ghost can not necessarily attached really, But or do they
Speaker 1: do they follow? Can they follow someone around or is
Speaker 1: that just like a trickster or somebody that's you know,
Speaker 1: an entity that's pretending to be a human ghost.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if it's a relative or someone with
Speaker 2: unfinished business, of course, they might try to harass you
Speaker 2: into finishing that whatever. That is, okay, So like personally,
Speaker 2: you know, then this is no secret. This is in
Speaker 2: the book. My my mother was like a malignant narcissist,
Speaker 2: a really terrible person, and when she passed, she passed
Speaker 2: without with a lot of unfinished business, you know, because
Speaker 2: we weren't really talking and there's a lot of stuff
Speaker 2: and she never apologized for anything, you know, same or
Speaker 2: same old. So when she passed, she was very harassing
Speaker 2: and trying to have communication with me to try and
Speaker 2: fix that. However, she needed to fix that. So if
Speaker 2: you have that going on with somebody and or you know,
Speaker 2: you had a really beautiful relationship with someone to sease,
Speaker 2: people will hang around with you for that. If it
Speaker 2: feels much more negative than that and it's starting to
Speaker 2: affect or impact your life in a negative way, most
Speaker 2: likely that is what I call a trickster, which is
Speaker 2: an entity that can take on the form of something.
Speaker 2: You know. Usually they will attach to people when they
Speaker 2: are children, so they'll come in as imaginary friends, weird
Speaker 2: things like Janie's Believe me, I have seen it all.
Speaker 2: But to adults, they might show up as people who
Speaker 2: passed away. They might show up as archangels like whatever
Speaker 2: they can do, excuse me, to have a symbiotic relationship
Speaker 2: with their host.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I feel like we should probably talk about
Speaker 1: you're the different classifications, if that's cool with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, so, even going back a little further, just
Speaker 2: to talk about how attachment works, because I think again,
Speaker 2: like people often have a misconception of how you get
Speaker 2: quote unquote possessed. So everyone kind of walks around with
Speaker 2: what I call a baseline frequency, because we're talking about
Speaker 2: energy and frequency. Everything's in energy, right, We're putting off energy,
Speaker 2: and our baseline frequency is you know, what our internal
Speaker 2: dialogue is, how we communicate with the world, what our
Speaker 2: actions are, all of that stuff, and most people kind
Speaker 2: of walk around in a bit of unconsciousness, as we
Speaker 2: can clearly see as we look at this country, and so,
Speaker 2: you know, on a scale of one to ten, where
Speaker 2: one's dead and ten is Buddha. Most people are walking
Speaker 2: around with like a four. And we can work on
Speaker 2: ourselves and raise that vibration, but that takes time. The
Speaker 2: thing that doesn't take time is trauma. And when we
Speaker 2: have a trauma, that baseline frequency takes a hit. And
Speaker 2: now we are in low frequency. And when we are
Speaker 2: in low frequency, that is how low frequency beings, low
Speaker 2: frequency attachments do that they attach. And there are many
Speaker 2: different types of entities. In the book, we talk about
Speaker 2: like the most common, the smallest of the most common,
Speaker 2: and the literal most common is what I call a
Speaker 2: clive It's very scientific. Why I call it that. I
Speaker 2: call it that because it looks like a Clive Barker drawing.
Speaker 1: To me, which sounds terrifying. It's not great, but I
Speaker 1: was also really shocked to hear you said that they're
Speaker 1: really small.
Speaker 2: Super little, very tiny, about the size of a fist.
Speaker 2: And they are, like I say, most common, and they
Speaker 2: work as amplifiers, so you know, if you're sad, you're depressed.
Speaker 2: If you're depressed or suicidal, if you are angry, you
Speaker 2: have rage, et cetera. And it just keeps going. And
Speaker 2: they're very easy to get and they you know, not
Speaker 2: to scare people, but I guess we're going to scare
Speaker 2: people anyway. About about eighty five percent of the population
Speaker 2: walks around with these at any time, and most people
Speaker 2: don't know that they have it at all.
Speaker 1: And so without going to you do people, they once
Speaker 1: they raise their frequency, they just kind of go away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because these are also the ones that are the
Speaker 2: easiest to get rid of. Okay, So you know, once
Speaker 2: you are in a place where you are healing yourself,
Speaker 2: oftentimes that starves it out and then they go looking
Speaker 2: for something else. Okay, So that's those guys. Then next
Speaker 2: up we have rapes what I call rapes, and those
Speaker 2: are the ones that are attached to sexual dysfunction, so molestation,
Speaker 2: rape abuse, being exposed to something too early. They oftentimes
Speaker 2: will come as night terrors, so people will see them
Speaker 2: as those kind of dark shades. And they will also
Speaker 2: kind of do those the chest sits, you know, where
Speaker 2: people feel like they can't.
Speaker 1: Mostly paralysis and that sort of the thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all of that usually is attached to raids. And
Speaker 2: they also can cause you know, you to not be
Speaker 2: in a relationship at all. They can lead people to
Speaker 2: that kind of narcissist impact relationship. They can ruin good
Speaker 2: relationships whatever, whatever your style is, that's what they feed
Speaker 2: off of. Okay, and then we move up to tricksters,
Speaker 2: you know, which we talked about taking on the form
Speaker 2: of something else, and all the way up to what
Speaker 2: I call realm walkers, which are what people consider the
Speaker 2: devil really, but there's more than one.
Speaker 1: Wait, can you tell the trickster story about the ring?
Speaker 1: The role that had the ring?
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh my gosh. I get some visitations And did
Speaker 2: you ever hear the visitation the New Orleans visitation? I
Speaker 2: should tell you that too if you If you.
Speaker 1: Haven't, oh my god, we love talking about New Orleans
Speaker 1: on here. Yes please, yes, one of.
Speaker 2: My favorite place, my favorite place. Okay, So I get
Speaker 2: visitations quite often. I don't get attachment, thank goodness, but
Speaker 2: because of what I do, you know, they tend to
Speaker 2: show up sometimes, and it's more out of like this
Speaker 2: weird curiosity. They kind of want to know, like, how
Speaker 2: do you see you know, what what are you doing?
Speaker 1: That kind of well do you believe that they see you?
Speaker 1: And they go, oh, she can actually see us? Or
Speaker 1: she you know, do they do you appear different? To
Speaker 1: them than other people.
Speaker 2: I think so, because when I was a child was
Speaker 2: when they started to notice me noticing them, okay, and
Speaker 2: they didn't really bother me with visitations and still until
Speaker 2: I started getting rid of them. And so now I
Speaker 2: have these things called bad moons, which everyone jokes is
Speaker 2: like a cosmic period, which is like from sun up
Speaker 2: or sundown to sun up, like every six to eight weeks,
Speaker 2: I will get visitation after visitation after visitation. So I
Speaker 2: don't know what that is. I don't know if that's
Speaker 2: like the universe just kind of balancing itself out or what.
Speaker 2: But one of those visitations, my very first visitation, in fact,
Speaker 2: was the one you're talking about. So I at the
Speaker 2: time lived in a house that had a bathroom connected,
Speaker 2: you know, to the bedroom that had kind of a
Speaker 2: frosted glass. And I was there in the bed and
Speaker 2: sometime in the middle of the night and the frosted
Speaker 2: glass you can see that the light is on from
Speaker 2: the bathroom and I'm like, Okay, that's kind of weird,
Speaker 2: but whatever. And I was married at the time, and
Speaker 2: I had my ring on and I'm noticing that there's
Speaker 2: this blonde woman walking back and forth in the bedroom
Speaker 2: kind of like throwing clothes over the exercise machine and
Speaker 2: just nonchalantly like she lives there and has been there
Speaker 2: all her life. And I'm like, who are you? And
Speaker 2: she doesn't really say, and she's just kind of putting
Speaker 2: the stuff back and forth like lah lah lah, and
Speaker 2: she's like, you know what, you should take that ring off,
Speaker 2: just like that. And it took me so long. I
Speaker 2: was like, what ring? What is this girl talking about?
Speaker 2: Who is this girl? And she's like, yeah, the ring,
Speaker 2: you know, it has a ghost in it. And I
Speaker 2: was like, what the hell? Who even says that? You know,
Speaker 2: Like who says a ring has a ghost in it?
Speaker 2: So I'm trying to process this while watching her like totally,
Speaker 2: you know, no big deal situation going on, and I
Speaker 2: suddenly realized, oh my god, she's talking about my wedding
Speaker 2: ring because my husband at the time and myself we
Speaker 2: had put like protection on these rings when we got married.
Speaker 2: And I realized, oh shit, this is what she's talking about.
Speaker 2: So all of a sudden, I was like, who are you?
Speaker 2: And she flew up over me. I'm laying on my
Speaker 2: back in the bed and she is right above me,
Speaker 2: face to face and starts pushing her way into my
Speaker 2: body and I was like, get out, get out, get out,
Speaker 2: get out, get out, get out. And then she was
Speaker 2: gone and the light was still on in the bathroom
Speaker 2: and clothes that were not over the exercise machine were
Speaker 2: still there. I hate that. And that was not even
Speaker 2: my worst. That was like the nicest one I've ever had.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, seriously, Yes, okay, what's the new or.
Speaker 2: Okay. So what we don't talk about in the book
Speaker 2: is that there are entities that are attached to regions
Speaker 2: and it's it's not like something that people have to
Speaker 2: worry about. So in essence, the book was for people, right,
Speaker 2: so you know, this is what it is. If you're
Speaker 2: feeling this, you know you might have this. The region
Speaker 2: ones are different, you know, they don't attach to people.
Speaker 2: But I was in New Orleans and I was sleeping
Speaker 2: and in this particular room there was so this is
Speaker 2: a condo that I have, and I had in the
Speaker 2: in this room one of those little night lights that
Speaker 2: projects onto the ceiling and it's like a little fish tank.
Speaker 2: It presents like little fish and that is like kind
Speaker 2: of always run. And then there's a window out to
Speaker 2: the street and it's fairly close to the French Quarter
Speaker 2: and like you can see like there's lots of lights
Speaker 2: on and people are walking kind of all hours. And
Speaker 2: this particular night, I am in the bed and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden this thing. I don't I wish I
Speaker 2: could categorize this. I'm still struggling to figure out, like
Speaker 2: what is this exactly? But there was this what I
Speaker 2: call like a banshee you remember banshie?
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh okay, it was a woman.
Speaker 2: It came up to me. It had it opened its
Speaker 2: mouth and it had like rows and rows and rows
Speaker 2: of teeth like sharks, and it was literally trying to bite,
Speaker 2: which I've never had an entity to do before ever.
Speaker 2: It was trying to bite.
Speaker 1: Wait, I have a question on that. Yeah, are they
Speaker 1: the way that they appear to you? Are they like physical?
Speaker 1: Like could could one actually sink teeth into you? Or
Speaker 1: is it more I don't know what the word is,
Speaker 1: but you know, like can you walk through them?
Speaker 2: Like what you know?
Speaker 1: You get what I'm asking?
Speaker 2: Like? Is it yeah?
Speaker 1: Physical?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean to me, they're very much they look
Speaker 2: like you do you know what I mean? Like I
Speaker 2: can see them and they're as as real as any
Speaker 2: human being Okay. I've never tried to walk through one,
Speaker 2: so I don't know. Maybe they just poof into smoke.
Speaker 2: I'm no idea, but this I will say with this one,
Speaker 2: this was the first time that I actually could feel
Speaker 2: that bite. I could feel it normally with entity, you know,
Speaker 2: especially what you know the realm walkers, those movie style entities.
Speaker 2: You you can have physical abrasions from them, you know
Speaker 2: how you see in the movies, like there's teeth marks,
Speaker 2: or there's scratches, or there's words in somebody's skins. You
Speaker 2: can actually wake up with that, but most people don't
Speaker 2: remember feeling it. It'll happen when they're asleep. With this
Speaker 2: particular entity, this is the first time I actually felt
Speaker 2: that happening in like real time, So I trieked out.
Speaker 2: I was freaking out. I was like trying to get
Speaker 2: it out, trying to push it out because this is
Speaker 2: what I do. And it was very, very strong, and
Speaker 2: out of the corner of the room came this giant
Speaker 2: man wearing like animal skins and long long black hair
Speaker 2: over the face, kind of like the ring. And he
Speaker 2: came out of the corner and he grabbed this thing
Speaker 2: and backed up into the corner and disappeared with it.
Speaker 2: Who was that. I did some research and it looked
Speaker 2: like it was a Native American chief and this might
Speaker 2: have been something so regional that he could feel that
Speaker 2: I needed him and he came and took it.
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
Speaker 2: Yes. And when this happened, here's the craziest part. This
Speaker 2: is where things get even weirder. All of the light,
Speaker 2: like the little fish light went out, completely went out.
Speaker 2: Remember we were talked about like the draining of the batteries.
Speaker 2: It went out, and I was like looking rund Like.
Speaker 2: I sat up and I was like, holy shit. And
Speaker 2: I'm looking around, looking around and looking around. And not
Speaker 2: only did that go out, but the entire block in
Speaker 2: New Orleans went out. There were no lights anywhere. Nobody
Speaker 2: could figure out why it was just in my particular block.
Speaker 1: Oh this is too scary.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And at the same time, so I have a
Speaker 2: girlfriend and she was in the bed next to me,
Speaker 2: and she sat up at the same time and said,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I just had a dream about this
Speaker 2: woman who was trying to bite.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I guess that's another question, like have you
Speaker 1: had these has an entity like that ever visited you
Speaker 1: or have you encountered them where other people also were
Speaker 1: in the room and saw them or saw it an
Speaker 1: effect of it. I guess that dream counts, but you know,
Speaker 1: are there other times that that happens?
Speaker 2: Normally they don't see them with their eyes. But the
Speaker 2: problem with being in a relationship with me is one
Speaker 2: of them.
Speaker 1: Is this on your dating profile? You might be visited
Speaker 1: by a banshee in the night you.
Speaker 2: Are hitting it Because for so long I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to date anybody. I'm not going to
Speaker 2: be around anybody because this is like a real issue
Speaker 2: because when you are around me, the closer you get
Speaker 2: to me, the more paranormal experiences you have. Because it's
Speaker 2: part of my life, you know. So not only are
Speaker 2: you dealing with the emergency people who show up at
Speaker 2: midnight and need help like that minute, but you also
Speaker 2: have to deal with the fact that I do this
Speaker 2: for a living and or not a living, I should say,
Speaker 2: but as part of my life.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we should also tell people you don't charge
Speaker 1: for this.
Speaker 2: No I don't, so yeah, like it's it is part
Speaker 2: of my life. It's it's my calling, it's it's part
Speaker 2: of why I'm on this planet. That's how I feel,
Speaker 2: so I don't. I don't say no, So you know
Speaker 2: you're dealing with that. Plus you're dealing with things falling
Speaker 2: off the shelves, things flying around rooms, like waking up
Speaker 2: with terrible nightmares all the time, you know, thinking you've
Speaker 2: seen things out of the corner of your eye, losing
Speaker 2: stuff then finding it in the weird places like this
Speaker 2: is all stuff that happens.
Speaker 1: Another thing I should say, which I'm sure people have
Speaker 1: gathered from just listening to you. When I when I
Speaker 1: first found out about you, I was like, in exorses, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm listening, And the more I heard you speak, not
Speaker 1: only do you seem you seem like a like a
Speaker 1: normal person in many ways you have a great sense
Speaker 1: of humor, but you're also like I would feel very
Speaker 1: safe being around you when it comes to this kind
Speaker 1: of stuff because you're the one that makes it go away.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're absolutely, I don't know, you're a hero
Speaker 1: to a lot of people that are in these situations.
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm sure that it's probably unlike most things.
Speaker 1: If someone's going to date you, I'm sure they haven't
Speaker 1: dated many other exorcists, but they picked one that could
Speaker 1: keep the bad stuff away, So that's good.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean, listen, I am pretty confident in
Speaker 2: my job. I have been doing this for over a decade.
Speaker 2: I have worked on you know, everyone from heads of
Speaker 2: to politicians to you know, rock icons, to grandmas to
Speaker 2: children to next door neighbors, you know, like everybody. But
Speaker 2: you know, I think two people think oh, that'd be cool,
Speaker 2: like I'd really love to be around that until they
Speaker 2: are until they see how scary it is and how
Speaker 2: real it is and how draining. Because one of the
Speaker 2: things that I don't really talk about that much is
Speaker 2: how hard it is, you know, how hard it is physically,
Speaker 2: how hard it is emotionally, what the backlash of working
Speaker 2: on people is like. But you know, yeah, I have
Speaker 2: been accused of being extremely cocky. It's my big demon energy,
Speaker 2: you know, like people are always like, wow, she just
Speaker 2: very cocky, Like you know, you are reading a book,
Speaker 2: and so some people are really offended by the language
Speaker 2: in the book because I'm very confident about what I do.
Speaker 2: And I always say to that like, what do you want, Like,
Speaker 2: do you want a non cocky extresses working on your right.
Speaker 1: But you have to actually have the track record to
Speaker 1: back it up. I think there's also people. There's politicians,
Speaker 1: there's people that are like you're.
Speaker 2: Not talking about like fake confidence, but you know, like,
Speaker 2: how many nice, good people do you meet who are
Speaker 2: so self deprecating and have been treated so poorly in
Speaker 2: their lives, especially in childhood, and have like no worthiness,
Speaker 2: and you know, it's so hard for them to even
Speaker 2: take a compliment. You know, That's what I want to change.
Speaker 2: I want to change that for people because I as
Speaker 2: you know, like when reading the book, one of the
Speaker 2: easiest ways to change this, even your ability or possibility
Speaker 2: of having attachment is to raise that vibration. And part
Speaker 2: of raising that vibration is starting internally with your dialogue,
Speaker 2: you know, because we're so hard on ourselves. So many
Speaker 2: people are so hard on ourselves, like really terrible, And
Speaker 2: it's about kind of restructure that first, because how are
Speaker 2: we going to love other people if we don't love ourselves?
Speaker 1: That's right, And I mean, if you're lucky enough to
Speaker 1: find your calling or whatever, and you do it the
Speaker 1: best that you can, I mean, that's that's such a gift.
Speaker 1: I mean, if I was reading your book and and
Speaker 1: you were like, I'm pretty sure I can get rid
Speaker 1: of demonsa I'd be like, okay, girl, I got other
Speaker 1: things to read.
Speaker 2: Like, you know how it is. It's like your dams
Speaker 2: if you do, and your damn if you don't.
Speaker 1: Literally, God, we always talk on this show about the
Speaker 1: relationship between creative people and celebrity and Hollywood and the paranormal.
Speaker 1: I mean, are there are there connections that you see
Speaker 1: with that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I kind of see it in a
Speaker 2: different way. So you know, how it looks to me
Speaker 2: is again like what I work in is trauma, right,
Speaker 2: That's what people have a shared situation of. And I
Speaker 2: do feel like, of course, when people are trying to
Speaker 2: go after dream, a huge dream, a big dream like
Speaker 2: people do when they come here and even achieve that dream,
Speaker 2: it doesn't heal the trauma, you know. And so I
Speaker 2: think like a lot of people come come to entertainment
Speaker 2: as a way to try and fulfill something voided in
Speaker 2: their lives, and then they get it and they're like,
Speaker 2: why am I not all better? So, and I think
Speaker 2: creative people in particular are kind of bruty, right or brooty,
Speaker 2: broody people like we tend to spend time in those
Speaker 2: dark places and that's difficult, you know, to handle on
Speaker 2: your own, especially if your childhood or your traumas in life,
Speaker 2: or your traumas even as an adult, have attracted something
Speaker 2: negative with you. But it's interesting too because I deal
Speaker 2: with so many people who are very big creatives who
Speaker 2: always tell me when they come I want this gone.
Speaker 2: I know there's something here. I want to be better,
Speaker 2: I want to feel better, I want to heal this out.
Speaker 2: But also I'm afraid to let go of it because
Speaker 2: I think that this is what gives me the edge
Speaker 2: to my creativity.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I know that from working in comedy. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of there's a huge belief in comedy that
Speaker 1: if I lose my edge, if I lose my darkness,
Speaker 1: I'm no longer funny.
Speaker 2: Right exactly, And same for musicians. Musicians feel that a lot.
Speaker 2: They're very worried about that. But it's not true. It's
Speaker 2: not true. It doesn't you know, just because you take
Speaker 2: out the thing that is actually plaguing your life and
Speaker 2: making it worse, doesn't mean that you're going to forget
Speaker 2: everything or suddenly be stupid or suddenly not be able
Speaker 2: to do what you were put on the earth to do. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's just not true. But people are very afraid to
Speaker 2: live without their darkness.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had an experience like that. I'm in recovery.
Speaker 1: I'm a sober person, and I you know, people always
Speaker 1: talk about their demons when they're talking about addiction, and
Speaker 1: I looking back, especially after reading your book, I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: like I really understand that now. I'm sure there was
Speaker 1: some kind of dark energy that was just attached to
Speaker 1: me and I and nothing but bad things happened to
Speaker 1: me for years, and I was just a dark, miserable person,
Speaker 1: and I was I was afraid that I was going
Speaker 1: to lose my creativity if I cleaned up my life
Speaker 1: and stopped. But then one day I was lucky enough
Speaker 1: to get myself out of that. And I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't really know, but it seems to me that my
Speaker 1: frequency raised and whatever I had attached to me kind
Speaker 1: of went away, or I don't know, at least I
Speaker 1: got stronger.
Speaker 2: Than it exactly. And that's that is, you know, kind
Speaker 2: of Another thing that I love to tell people too,
Speaker 2: is like all of these things that you're afraid of,
Speaker 2: all of these entities that attach, and yes they exist,
Speaker 2: and yes, be wary and mindful of those things, you know,
Speaker 2: you are stronger than that. When you step into your
Speaker 2: power and taking back your life is stepping into your power,
Speaker 2: and you will know that you're doing a fantastic job
Speaker 2: raising your frequency when the world reflects that to you.
Speaker 1: So I love this.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm always talking about what I call spiritualists.
Speaker 2: You know, those are spiritualists, spiritual gurus who tell you
Speaker 2: what you should be doing, but their lives are shit,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And you know these people,
Speaker 2: You've seen these people like they've always the peace, love
Speaker 2: and life, but everything is falling apart. You know. They're
Speaker 2: constantly talking about how they're of high mind and high
Speaker 2: frequency and preaching all of these things about what you
Speaker 2: should be and what you should be doing, which I
Speaker 2: don't believe in anyway. But at the same time, the
Speaker 2: lives around them reflect chaos. Nothing is going well. Everything's
Speaker 2: a mess. They're depressed, they're you know, doing all of
Speaker 2: this in the background. When you are actually in the
Speaker 2: space of raising your frequency, raising that vibration, the universe
Speaker 2: will will reflect that back to you. Things will be easier.
Speaker 2: You know, people of low frequency that you've been around
Speaker 2: forever might drop away. You have new people in your
Speaker 2: life that are people that you admire and respect. Jobs
Speaker 2: come easier, you know, relationships, whatever it is that you're
Speaker 2: looking for starts to come in. So I think that's
Speaker 2: the best way of knowing how you doing. You know
Speaker 2: how am I doing? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And I was thinking as you were saying that, was
Speaker 1: thinking kind of going back to the you being cocky
Speaker 1: kind of a thing you do talk about like if
Speaker 1: you're scared or unsure or something that doesn't help your
Speaker 1: case with fighting these demons, And is that sort of
Speaker 1: the same thing with somebody that's trying to overcome one.
Speaker 1: It's like, you have to be powerful if you start,
Speaker 1: if you go back to that dark and we weakened state,
Speaker 1: they will feed off of you and grow.
Speaker 2: Is that Is that right? Yeah? I mean you want
Speaker 2: to move yourself from a space of vulnerability to strength,
Speaker 2: and you're working on your frequency and on my Instagram
Speaker 2: and stuff, I give people tips on how to do that.
Speaker 2: But like working on that raising that vibration, it does
Speaker 2: two things. It brings you closer connected to spirit, which
Speaker 2: is a positive. So those high beings, you know, those
Speaker 2: entities from above, It brings you closer to them, makes
Speaker 2: your communication with spirit clearers. You get messages more often,
Speaker 2: you get information. These things are different, and it also
Speaker 2: brings you into your power. It also strengthens you from
Speaker 2: the inside out. It starts with the energy and you
Speaker 2: notice a shift in the way you think after that.
Speaker 2: So in other words, you know, like instead of telling people, well,
Speaker 2: let's do this meditation and then having you know, creative
Speaker 2: people too have a really hard time with mechanical meditation.
Speaker 2: They can't turn their brains off, and that's part of meditation, right,
Speaker 2: So it's like, Okay, forget the brain, don't worry about
Speaker 2: your brain yet. We're going to start on your energy
Speaker 2: first and your brain's going to follow. That is kind
Speaker 2: of the key to connecting to spirit and raising the vibration.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I found it interesting that you were talking
Speaker 1: about like if you're an asshole, like you can take
Speaker 1: away the entity, but if someone's an asshole, they're an asshole.
Speaker 2: Is that well, yes, that is real life. I mean, listen,
Speaker 2: if you want to raise your vibration and you're an asshole,
Speaker 2: that I commend they want you to do that because
Speaker 2: that will change your life in a big way. But
Speaker 2: I mean realm walkers in particular, like people always ask
Speaker 2: me well, these kinds of devil energy creatures that are
Speaker 2: when we have several on the planet. Unfortunately they're not
Speaker 2: as common as everything else. But it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: are they making people bad? And the reality is that
Speaker 2: they're attracted to people who are already wanting to be
Speaker 2: that right now, some keeps are scarier than their entities.
Speaker 1: Let's put it that way, all right. Well, that concludes
Speaker 1: the first part of my conversation with Rachel. And if
Speaker 1: you want to hear that spooky story that she told
Speaker 1: about an entity visiting her in the night and it
Speaker 1: made her have to keep the lights on, go to
Speaker 1: patreon dot com slash ras Dressfuless and you can see
Speaker 1: that video of me and Sam doing our best to
Speaker 1: go ghost hunting in San Francisco before the pandemic really
Speaker 1: took over. On next week's episode, we've got Rachel again
Speaker 1: and she's gonna talk to us a bit more about
Speaker 1: how we can protect ourselves, and we listen to some
Speaker 1: EVPs next week. And if you really can't wait a
Speaker 1: whole week, well just go buy her book, Sister of Darkness.
Speaker 1: It's a fun read. And also keep in mind it's
Speaker 1: written by a writer, so she really paints great pictures
Speaker 1: with these stories, and she's got a great sense of humor.
Speaker 1: It's really it's really a fun read. I actually sped
Speaker 1: through that book. I couldn't put it down. So go
Speaker 1: check out her book, Sister of Darkness. Please give this
Speaker 1: show five stars on Apple Podcasts or wherever you'd give
Speaker 1: five stars. And if you have a ghost story, you
Speaker 1: can write it in a five star review. You can
Speaker 1: also put it in the Facebook group ghosted by Roz
Speaker 1: dres Falas. I want to do a list episode, so
Speaker 1: please send me your ghost stories to ghosted by rozat
Speaker 1: gmail dot com with the subject line listener episode. I'm
Speaker 1: on Cameo, rozdres Fales, Patreon, rozdres Fales. Please spread the
Speaker 1: word of this show. Let's take over spooky season. I'm
Speaker 1: on Instagram, rozdres Fales. I love you all, both living
Speaker 1: and dead. But if I didn't ask you to haunt me,
Speaker 1: don't haunt me.
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