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Speaker 2: I just make it so much easier for myself. So

434
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 2: you know, like reading the book, there's like this type

435
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: of entity, this one, this one, this one just to

436
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 2: help me. And so deceased people to me are like

437
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 2: in a class by themselves. So decease people they don't

438
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 2: attach in the way that entity does. You can't really

439
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 2: be possessed quote unquote from a deceased person. You can

440
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 2: be annoyed, you can be harassed, but they don't really possess.

441
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: But what they do, and you're going to laugh because

442
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 2: this is so true, is they don't shut up. They

443
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 2: do not ever shut up decease people. The big difference

444
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 2: between deceased people and entities, aside from that category, is

445
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 2: that deceased people can't wait to be heard and seen,

446
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 2: and entities do not. They want to hide and hide

447
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 2: and hide. So decease people if you open up your

448
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 2: medium ship abilities, because I believe absolutely everyone on this

449
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 2: planet is born with medium ship abilities and the ability

450
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 2: to speak to your spirit guide. So when people are

451
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 2: ready to reopen that communication, they start realizing, wow, there's

452
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: a lot of dead people who want to talk to me.

453
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: Okay, So but does that happen that people come to

454
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: you and they have like I mean, because can a

455
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: ghost can not necessarily attached really, But or do they

456
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: do they follow? Can they follow someone around or is

457
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: that just like a trickster or somebody that's you know,

458
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: an entity that's pretending to be a human ghost.

459
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if it's a relative or someone with

460
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 2: unfinished business, of course, they might try to harass you

461
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 2: into finishing that whatever. That is, okay, So like personally,

462
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: you know, then this is no secret. This is in

463
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 2: the book. My my mother was like a malignant narcissist,

464
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 2: a really terrible person, and when she passed, she passed

465
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: without with a lot of unfinished business, you know, because

466
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: we weren't really talking and there's a lot of stuff

467
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 2: and she never apologized for anything, you know, same or

468
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 2: same old. So when she passed, she was very harassing

469
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 2: and trying to have communication with me to try and

470
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 2: fix that. However, she needed to fix that. So if

471
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: you have that going on with somebody and or you know,

472
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: you had a really beautiful relationship with someone to sease,

473
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: people will hang around with you for that. If it

474
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 2: feels much more negative than that and it's starting to

475
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 2: affect or impact your life in a negative way, most

476
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: likely that is what I call a trickster, which is

477
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 2: an entity that can take on the form of something.

478
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 2: You know. Usually they will attach to people when they

479
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 2: are children, so they'll come in as imaginary friends, weird

480
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 2: things like Janie's Believe me, I have seen it all.

481
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: But to adults, they might show up as people who

482
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 2: passed away. They might show up as archangels like whatever

483
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: they can do, excuse me, to have a symbiotic relationship

484
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 2: with their host.

485
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I feel like we should probably talk about

486
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: you're the different classifications, if that's cool with you.

487
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, so, even going back a little further, just

488
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 2: to talk about how attachment works, because I think again,

489
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 2: like people often have a misconception of how you get

490
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 2: quote unquote possessed. So everyone kind of walks around with

491
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 2: what I call a baseline frequency, because we're talking about

492
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 2: energy and frequency. Everything's in energy, right, We're putting off energy,

493
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 2: and our baseline frequency is you know, what our internal

494
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: dialogue is, how we communicate with the world, what our

495
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 2: actions are, all of that stuff, and most people kind

496
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 2: of walk around in a bit of unconsciousness, as we

497
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 2: can clearly see as we look at this country, and so,

498
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 2: you know, on a scale of one to ten, where

499
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 2: one's dead and ten is Buddha. Most people are walking

500
00:30:55,600 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 2: around with like a four. And we can work on

501
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: ourselves and raise that vibration, but that takes time. The

502
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 2: thing that doesn't take time is trauma. And when we

503
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: have a trauma, that baseline frequency takes a hit. And

504
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: now we are in low frequency. And when we are

505
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: in low frequency, that is how low frequency beings, low

506
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: frequency attachments do that they attach. And there are many

507
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 2: different types of entities. In the book, we talk about

508
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 2: like the most common, the smallest of the most common,

509
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: and the literal most common is what I call a

510
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: clive It's very scientific. Why I call it that. I

511
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: call it that because it looks like a Clive Barker drawing.

512
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: To me, which sounds terrifying. It's not great, but I

513
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: was also really shocked to hear you said that they're

514
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: really small.

515
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 2: Super little, very tiny, about the size of a fist.

516
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 2: And they are, like I say, most common, and they

517
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 2: work as amplifiers, so you know, if you're sad, you're depressed.

518
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 2: If you're depressed or suicidal, if you are angry, you

519
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: have rage, et cetera. And it just keeps going. And

520
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 2: they're very easy to get and they you know, not

521
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 2: to scare people, but I guess we're going to scare

522
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 2: people anyway. About about eighty five percent of the population

523
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 2: walks around with these at any time, and most people

524
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: don't know that they have it at all.

525
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: And so without going to you do people, they once

526
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: they raise their frequency, they just kind of go away.

527
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, because these are also the ones that are the

528
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 2: easiest to get rid of. Okay, So you know, once

529
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 2: you are in a place where you are healing yourself,

530
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: oftentimes that starves it out and then they go looking

531
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 2: for something else. Okay, So that's those guys. Then next

532
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: up we have rapes what I call rapes, and those

533
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: are the ones that are attached to sexual dysfunction, so molestation,

534
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: rape abuse, being exposed to something too early. They oftentimes

535
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 2: will come as night terrors, so people will see them

536
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 2: as those kind of dark shades. And they will also

537
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 2: kind of do those the chest sits, you know, where

538
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: people feel like they can't.

539
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: Mostly paralysis and that sort of the thing.

540
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, all of that usually is attached to raids. And

541
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 2: they also can cause you know, you to not be

542
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: in a relationship at all. They can lead people to

543
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: that kind of narcissist impact relationship. They can ruin good

544
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 2: relationships whatever, whatever your style is, that's what they feed

545
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 2: off of. Okay, and then we move up to tricksters,

546
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 2: you know, which we talked about taking on the form

547
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: of something else, and all the way up to what

548
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: I call realm walkers, which are what people consider the

549
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 2: devil really, but there's more than one.

550
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: Wait, can you tell the trickster story about the ring?

551
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: The role that had the ring?

552
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh my gosh. I get some visitations And did

553
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 2: you ever hear the visitation the New Orleans visitation? I

554
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 2: should tell you that too if you If you.

555
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 1: Haven't, oh my god, we love talking about New Orleans

556
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: on here. Yes please, yes, one of.

557
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 2: My favorite place, my favorite place. Okay, So I get

558
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 2: visitations quite often. I don't get attachment, thank goodness, but

559
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 2: because of what I do, you know, they tend to

560
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 2: show up sometimes, and it's more out of like this

561
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: weird curiosity. They kind of want to know, like, how

562
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 2: do you see you know, what what are you doing?

563
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 1: That kind of well do you believe that they see you?

564
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 1: And they go, oh, she can actually see us? Or

565
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: she you know, do they do you appear different? To

566
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: them than other people.

567
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 2: I think so, because when I was a child was

568
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 2: when they started to notice me noticing them, okay, and

569
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 2: they didn't really bother me with visitations and still until

570
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 2: I started getting rid of them. And so now I

571
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 2: have these things called bad moons, which everyone jokes is

572
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 2: like a cosmic period, which is like from sun up

573
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 2: or sundown to sun up, like every six to eight weeks,

574
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 2: I will get visitation after visitation after visitation. So I

575
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 2: don't know what that is. I don't know if that's

576
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: like the universe just kind of balancing itself out or what.

577
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 2: But one of those visitations, my very first visitation, in fact,

578
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 2: was the one you're talking about. So I at the

579
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 2: time lived in a house that had a bathroom connected,

580
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 2: you know, to the bedroom that had kind of a

581
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: frosted glass. And I was there in the bed and

582
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 2: sometime in the middle of the night and the frosted

583
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: glass you can see that the light is on from

584
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 2: the bathroom and I'm like, Okay, that's kind of weird,

585
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 2: but whatever. And I was married at the time, and

586
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 2: I had my ring on and I'm noticing that there's

587
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 2: this blonde woman walking back and forth in the bedroom

588
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 2: kind of like throwing clothes over the exercise machine and

589
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 2: just nonchalantly like she lives there and has been there

590
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 2: all her life. And I'm like, who are you? And

591
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 2: she doesn't really say, and she's just kind of putting

592
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 2: the stuff back and forth like lah lah lah, and

593
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 2: she's like, you know what, you should take that ring off,

594
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: just like that. And it took me so long. I

595
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,919
Speaker 2: was like, what ring? What is this girl talking about?

596
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 2: Who is this girl? And she's like, yeah, the ring,

597
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 2: you know, it has a ghost in it. And I

598
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 2: was like, what the hell? Who even says that? You know,

599
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 2: Like who says a ring has a ghost in it?

600
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: So I'm trying to process this while watching her like totally,

601
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 2: you know, no big deal situation going on, and I

602
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 2: suddenly realized, oh my god, she's talking about my wedding

603
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 2: ring because my husband at the time and myself we

604
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 2: had put like protection on these rings when we got married.

605
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 2: And I realized, oh shit, this is what she's talking about.

606
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 2: So all of a sudden, I was like, who are you?

607
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 2: And she flew up over me. I'm laying on my

608
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 2: back in the bed and she is right above me,

609
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 2: face to face and starts pushing her way into my

610
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 2: body and I was like, get out, get out, get out,

611
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: get out, get out, get out. And then she was

612
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: gone and the light was still on in the bathroom

613
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 2: and clothes that were not over the exercise machine were

614
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 2: still there. I hate that. And that was not even

615
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: my worst. That was like the nicest one I've ever had.

616
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god, seriously, Yes, okay, what's the new or.

617
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 2: Okay. So what we don't talk about in the book

618
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 2: is that there are entities that are attached to regions

619
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 2: and it's it's not like something that people have to

620
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 2: worry about. So in essence, the book was for people, right,

621
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 2: so you know, this is what it is. If you're

622
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 2: feeling this, you know you might have this. The region

623
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,479
Speaker 2: ones are different, you know, they don't attach to people.

624
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 2: But I was in New Orleans and I was sleeping

625
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 2: and in this particular room there was so this is

626
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 2: a condo that I have, and I had in the

627
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 2: in this room one of those little night lights that

628
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 2: projects onto the ceiling and it's like a little fish tank.

629
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 2: It presents like little fish and that is like kind

630
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 2: of always run. And then there's a window out to

631
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 2: the street and it's fairly close to the French Quarter

632
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 2: and like you can see like there's lots of lights

633
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 2: on and people are walking kind of all hours. And

634
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 2: this particular night, I am in the bed and all

635
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: of a sudden this thing. I don't I wish I

636
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: could categorize this. I'm still struggling to figure out, like

637
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: what is this exactly? But there was this what I

638
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 2: call like a banshee you remember banshie?

639
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh okay, it was a woman.

640
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 2: It came up to me. It had it opened its

641
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: mouth and it had like rows and rows and rows

642
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 2: of teeth like sharks, and it was literally trying to bite,

643
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 2: which I've never had an entity to do before ever.

644
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 2: It was trying to bite.

645
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: Wait, I have a question on that. Yeah, are they

646
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: the way that they appear to you? Are they like physical?

647
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 1: Like could could one actually sink teeth into you? Or

648
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: is it more I don't know what the word is,

649
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: but you know, like can you walk through them?

650
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: Like what you know?

651
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: You get what I'm asking?

652
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:13,479
Speaker 2: Like? Is it yeah?

653
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: Physical?

654
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean to me, they're very much they look

655
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: like you do you know what I mean? Like I

656
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 2: can see them and they're as as real as any

657
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 2: human being Okay. I've never tried to walk through one,

658
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 2: so I don't know. Maybe they just poof into smoke.

659
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 2: I'm no idea, but this I will say with this one,

660
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 2: this was the first time that I actually could feel

661
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: that bite. I could feel it normally with entity, you know,

662
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 2: especially what you know the realm walkers, those movie style entities.

663
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: You you can have physical abrasions from them, you know

664
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 2: how you see in the movies, like there's teeth marks,

665
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 2: or there's scratches, or there's words in somebody's skins. You

666
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 2: can actually wake up with that, but most people don't

667
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 2: remember feeling it. It'll happen when they're asleep. With this

668
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 2: particular entity, this is the first time I actually felt

669
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 2: that happening in like real time, So I trieked out.

670
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 2: I was freaking out. I was like trying to get

671
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 2: it out, trying to push it out because this is

672
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 2: what I do. And it was very, very strong, and

673
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: out of the corner of the room came this giant

674
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 2: man wearing like animal skins and long long black hair

675
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 2: over the face, kind of like the ring. And he

676
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 2: came out of the corner and he grabbed this thing

677
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 2: and backed up into the corner and disappeared with it.

678
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 2: Who was that. I did some research and it looked

679
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 2: like it was a Native American chief and this might

680
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 2: have been something so regional that he could feel that

681
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: I needed him and he came and took it.

682
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:05,439
Speaker 1: Oh wow.

683
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 2: Yes. And when this happened, here's the craziest part. This

684
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 2: is where things get even weirder. All of the light,

685
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: like the little fish light went out, completely went out.

686
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 2: Remember we were talked about like the draining of the batteries.

687
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 2: It went out, and I was like looking rund Like.

688
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 2: I sat up and I was like, holy shit. And

689
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 2: I'm looking around, looking around and looking around. And not

690
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 2: only did that go out, but the entire block in

691
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: New Orleans went out. There were no lights anywhere. Nobody

692
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 2: could figure out why it was just in my particular block.

693
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 1: Oh this is too scary.

694
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. And at the same time, so I have a

695
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: girlfriend and she was in the bed next to me,

696
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 2: and she sat up at the same time and said,

697
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 2: oh my god, I just had a dream about this

698
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 2: woman who was trying to bite.

699
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I guess that's another question, like have you

700
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: had these has an entity like that ever visited you

701
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: or have you encountered them where other people also were

702
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: in the room and saw them or saw it an

703
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: effect of it. I guess that dream counts, but you know,

704
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: are there other times that that happens?

705
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 2: Normally they don't see them with their eyes. But the

706
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 2: problem with being in a relationship with me is one

707
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 2: of them.

708
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: Is this on your dating profile? You might be visited

709
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: by a banshee in the night you.

710
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: Are hitting it Because for so long I was like,

711
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 2: I'm not going to date anybody. I'm not going to

712
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 2: be around anybody because this is like a real issue

713
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: because when you are around me, the closer you get

714
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 2: to me, the more paranormal experiences you have. Because it's

715
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 2: part of my life, you know. So not only are

716
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 2: you dealing with the emergency people who show up at

717
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 2: midnight and need help like that minute, but you also

718
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 2: have to deal with the fact that I do this

719
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 2: for a living and or not a living, I should say,

720
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 2: but as part of my life.

721
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we should also tell people you don't charge

722
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: for this.

723
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 2: No I don't, so yeah, like it's it is part

724
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 2: of my life. It's it's my calling, it's it's part

725
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 2: of why I'm on this planet. That's how I feel,

726
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 2: so I don't. I don't say no, So you know

727
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 2: you're dealing with that. Plus you're dealing with things falling

728
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 2: off the shelves, things flying around rooms, like waking up

729
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 2: with terrible nightmares all the time, you know, thinking you've

730
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 2: seen things out of the corner of your eye, losing

731
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: stuff then finding it in the weird places like this

732
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 2: is all stuff that happens.

733
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 1: Another thing I should say, which I'm sure people have

734
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: gathered from just listening to you. When I when I

735
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: first found out about you, I was like, in exorses, okay,

736
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: I'm listening, And the more I heard you speak, not

737
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: only do you seem you seem like a like a

738
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 1: normal person in many ways you have a great sense

739
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: of humor, but you're also like I would feel very

740
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: safe being around you when it comes to this kind

741
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 1: of stuff because you're the one that makes it go away.

742
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: I mean, you're absolutely, I don't know, you're a hero

743
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: to a lot of people that are in these situations.

744
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm sure that it's probably unlike most things.

745
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 1: If someone's going to date you, I'm sure they haven't

746
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: dated many other exorcists, but they picked one that could

747
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: keep the bad stuff away, So that's good.

748
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean, listen, I am pretty confident in

749
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 2: my job. I have been doing this for over a decade.

750
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 2: I have worked on you know, everyone from heads of

751
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 2: to politicians to you know, rock icons, to grandmas to

752
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 2: children to next door neighbors, you know, like everybody. But

753
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: you know, I think two people think oh, that'd be cool,

754
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 2: like I'd really love to be around that until they

755
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 2: are until they see how scary it is and how

756
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 2: real it is and how draining. Because one of the

757
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: things that I don't really talk about that much is

758
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 2: how hard it is, you know, how hard it is physically,

759
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 2: how hard it is emotionally, what the backlash of working

760
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 2: on people is like. But you know, yeah, I have

761
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 2: been accused of being extremely cocky. It's my big demon energy,

762
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 2: you know, like people are always like, wow, she just

763
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 2: very cocky, Like you know, you are reading a book,

764
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 2: and so some people are really offended by the language

765
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 2: in the book because I'm very confident about what I do.

766
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: And I always say to that like, what do you want, Like,

767
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 2: do you want a non cocky extresses working on your right.

768
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: But you have to actually have the track record to

769
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: back it up. I think there's also people. There's politicians,

770
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: there's people that are like you're.

771
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 2: Not talking about like fake confidence, but you know, like,

772
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 2: how many nice, good people do you meet who are

773
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 2: so self deprecating and have been treated so poorly in

774
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 2: their lives, especially in childhood, and have like no worthiness,

775
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 2: and you know, it's so hard for them to even

776
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 2: take a compliment. You know, That's what I want to change.

777
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 2: I want to change that for people because I as

778
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 2: you know, like when reading the book, one of the

779
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:43,959
Speaker 2: easiest ways to change this, even your ability or possibility

780
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 2: of having attachment is to raise that vibration. And part

781
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 2: of raising that vibration is starting internally with your dialogue,

782
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 2: you know, because we're so hard on ourselves. So many

783
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 2: people are so hard on ourselves, like really terrible, And

784
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 2: it's about kind of restructure that first, because how are

785
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 2: we going to love other people if we don't love ourselves?

786
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: That's right, And I mean, if you're lucky enough to

787
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: find your calling or whatever, and you do it the

788
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 1: best that you can, I mean, that's that's such a gift.

789
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: I mean, if I was reading your book and and

790
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: you were like, I'm pretty sure I can get rid

791
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: of demonsa I'd be like, okay, girl, I got other

792
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:25,959
Speaker 1: things to read.

793
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 2: Like, you know how it is. It's like your dams

794
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 2: if you do, and your damn if you don't.

795
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: Literally, God, we always talk on this show about the

796
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 1: relationship between creative people and celebrity and Hollywood and the paranormal.

797
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: I mean, are there are there connections that you see

798
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: with that?

799
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I kind of see it in a

800
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: different way. So you know, how it looks to me

801
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 2: is again like what I work in is trauma, right,

802
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 2: That's what people have a shared situation of. And I

803
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 2: do feel like, of course, when people are trying to

804
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 2: go after dream, a huge dream, a big dream like

805
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 2: people do when they come here and even achieve that dream,

806
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 2: it doesn't heal the trauma, you know. And so I

807
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 2: think like a lot of people come come to entertainment

808
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 2: as a way to try and fulfill something voided in

809
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 2: their lives, and then they get it and they're like,

810
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 2: why am I not all better? So, and I think

811
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 2: creative people in particular are kind of bruty, right or brooty,

812
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 2: broody people like we tend to spend time in those

813
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 2: dark places and that's difficult, you know, to handle on

814
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 2: your own, especially if your childhood or your traumas in life,

815
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 2: or your traumas even as an adult, have attracted something

816
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 2: negative with you. But it's interesting too because I deal

817
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 2: with so many people who are very big creatives who

818
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 2: always tell me when they come I want this gone.

819
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 2: I know there's something here. I want to be better,

820
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 2: I want to feel better, I want to heal this out.

821
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 2: But also I'm afraid to let go of it because

822
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 2: I think that this is what gives me the edge

823
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 2: to my creativity.

824
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I know that from working in comedy. There's

825
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 1: a lot of there's a huge belief in comedy that

826
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:36,280
Speaker 1: if I lose my edge, if I lose my darkness,

827
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: I'm no longer funny.

828
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 2: Right exactly, And same for musicians. Musicians feel that a lot.

829
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:47,879
Speaker 2: They're very worried about that. But it's not true. It's

830
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 2: not true. It doesn't you know, just because you take

831
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 2: out the thing that is actually plaguing your life and

832
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 2: making it worse, doesn't mean that you're going to forget

833
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 2: everything or suddenly be stupid or suddenly not be able

834
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 2: to do what you were put on the earth to do. Yes,

835
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 2: it's just not true. But people are very afraid to

836
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 2: live without their darkness.

837
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had an experience like that. I'm in recovery.

838
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: I'm a sober person, and I you know, people always

839
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: talk about their demons when they're talking about addiction, and

840
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: I looking back, especially after reading your book, I'm like, oh, yeah,

841
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: like I really understand that now. I'm sure there was

842
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: some kind of dark energy that was just attached to

843
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: me and I and nothing but bad things happened to

844
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: me for years, and I was just a dark, miserable person,

845
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: and I was I was afraid that I was going

846
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 1: to lose my creativity if I cleaned up my life

847
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 1: and stopped. But then one day I was lucky enough

848
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: to get myself out of that. And I mean, I

849
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: don't really know, but it seems to me that my

850
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: frequency raised and whatever I had attached to me kind

851
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: of went away, or I don't know, at least I

852
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 1: got stronger.

853
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 2: Than it exactly. And that's that is, you know, kind

854
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 2: of Another thing that I love to tell people too,

855
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 2: is like all of these things that you're afraid of,

856
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 2: all of these entities that attach, and yes they exist,

857
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 2: and yes, be wary and mindful of those things, you know,

858
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: you are stronger than that. When you step into your

859
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 2: power and taking back your life is stepping into your power,

860
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 2: and you will know that you're doing a fantastic job

861
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 2: raising your frequency when the world reflects that to you.

862
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: So I love this.

863
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Speaker 2: You know, I'm always talking about what I call spiritualists.

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Speaker 2: You know, those are spiritualists, spiritual gurus who tell you

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Speaker 2: what you should be doing, but their lives are shit,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And you know these people,

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Speaker 2: You've seen these people like they've always the peace, love

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Speaker 2: and life, but everything is falling apart. You know. They're

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Speaker 2: constantly talking about how they're of high mind and high

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Speaker 2: frequency and preaching all of these things about what you

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Speaker 2: should be and what you should be doing, which I

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Speaker 2: don't believe in anyway. But at the same time, the

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00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 2: lives around them reflect chaos. Nothing is going well. Everything's

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Speaker 2: a mess. They're depressed, they're you know, doing all of

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Speaker 2: this in the background. When you are actually in the

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Speaker 2: space of raising your frequency, raising that vibration, the universe

877
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Speaker 2: will will reflect that back to you. Things will be easier.

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Speaker 2: You know, people of low frequency that you've been around

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00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 2: forever might drop away. You have new people in your

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00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 2: life that are people that you admire and respect. Jobs

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00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 2: come easier, you know, relationships, whatever it is that you're

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00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 2: looking for starts to come in. So I think that's

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Speaker 2: the best way of knowing how you doing. You know

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00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 2: how am I doing? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And I was thinking as you were saying that, was

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Speaker 1: thinking kind of going back to the you being cocky

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Speaker 1: kind of a thing you do talk about like if

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Speaker 1: you're scared or unsure or something that doesn't help your

889
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 1: case with fighting these demons, And is that sort of

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Speaker 1: the same thing with somebody that's trying to overcome one.

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Speaker 1: It's like, you have to be powerful if you start,

892
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Speaker 1: if you go back to that dark and we weakened state,

893
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 1: they will feed off of you and grow.

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Speaker 2: Is that Is that right? Yeah? I mean you want

895
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Speaker 2: to move yourself from a space of vulnerability to strength,

896
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Speaker 2: and you're working on your frequency and on my Instagram

897
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Speaker 2: and stuff, I give people tips on how to do that.

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Speaker 2: But like working on that raising that vibration, it does

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Speaker 2: two things. It brings you closer connected to spirit, which

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Speaker 2: is a positive. So those high beings, you know, those

901
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 2: entities from above, It brings you closer to them, makes

902
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Speaker 2: your communication with spirit clearers. You get messages more often,

903
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 2: you get information. These things are different, and it also

904
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Speaker 2: brings you into your power. It also strengthens you from

905
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 2: the inside out. It starts with the energy and you

906
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Speaker 2: notice a shift in the way you think after that.

907
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Speaker 2: So in other words, you know, like instead of telling people, well,

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Speaker 2: let's do this meditation and then having you know, creative

909
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 2: people too have a really hard time with mechanical meditation.

910
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 2: They can't turn their brains off, and that's part of meditation, right,

911
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,919
Speaker 2: So it's like, Okay, forget the brain, don't worry about

912
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 2: your brain yet. We're going to start on your energy

913
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 2: first and your brain's going to follow. That is kind

914
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Speaker 2: of the key to connecting to spirit and raising the vibration.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I found it interesting that you were talking

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Speaker 1: about like if you're an asshole, like you can take

917
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Speaker 1: away the entity, but if someone's an asshole, they're an asshole.

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Speaker 2: Is that well, yes, that is real life. I mean, listen,

919
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Speaker 2: if you want to raise your vibration and you're an asshole,

920
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 2: that I commend they want you to do that because

921
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 2: that will change your life in a big way. But

922
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Speaker 2: I mean realm walkers in particular, like people always ask

923
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Speaker 2: me well, these kinds of devil energy creatures that are

924
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 2: when we have several on the planet. Unfortunately they're not

925
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Speaker 2: as common as everything else. But it's like, you know,

926
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Speaker 2: are they making people bad? And the reality is that

927
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Speaker 2: they're attracted to people who are already wanting to be

928
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Speaker 2: that right now, some keeps are scarier than their entities.

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Speaker 1: Let's put it that way, all right. Well, that concludes

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Speaker 1: the first part of my conversation with Rachel. And if

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Speaker 1: you want to hear that spooky story that she told

932
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Speaker 1: about an entity visiting her in the night and it

933
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Speaker 1: made her have to keep the lights on, go to

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Speaker 1: patreon dot com slash ras Dressfuless and you can see

935
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Speaker 1: that video of me and Sam doing our best to

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Speaker 1: go ghost hunting in San Francisco before the pandemic really

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Speaker 1: took over. On next week's episode, we've got Rachel again

938
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Speaker 1: and she's gonna talk to us a bit more about

939
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Speaker 1: how we can protect ourselves, and we listen to some

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Speaker 1: EVPs next week. And if you really can't wait a

941
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Speaker 1: whole week, well just go buy her book, Sister of Darkness.

942
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Speaker 1: It's a fun read. And also keep in mind it's

943
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Speaker 1: written by a writer, so she really paints great pictures

944
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Speaker 1: with these stories, and she's got a great sense of humor.

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Speaker 1: It's really it's really a fun read. I actually sped

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Speaker 1: through that book. I couldn't put it down. So go

947
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Speaker 1: check out her book, Sister of Darkness. Please give this

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Speaker 1: show five stars on Apple Podcasts or wherever you'd give

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Speaker 1: five stars. And if you have a ghost story, you

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00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: can write it in a five star review. You can

951
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Speaker 1: also put it in the Facebook group ghosted by Roz

952
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Speaker 1: dres Falas. I want to do a list episode, so

953
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Speaker 1: please send me your ghost stories to ghosted by rozat

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Speaker 1: gmail dot com with the subject line listener episode. I'm

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Speaker 1: on Cameo, rozdres Fales, Patreon, rozdres Fales. Please spread the

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Speaker 1: word of this show. Let's take over spooky season. I'm

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Speaker 1: on Instagram, rozdres Fales. I love you all, both living

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Speaker 1: and dead. But if I didn't ask you to haunt me,

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Speaker 1: don't haunt me.

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Speaker 2: Hey back

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