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<v Speaker 1>Hey, America, is Peter Schweitzer sitting next to me as

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Eggers and we are filling in for Sean joined

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation at one eight hundred nine four one seven

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<v Speaker 1>three two six one eight hundred nine four one seven

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<v Speaker 1>three two six. I'm looking at front of me some

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<v Speaker 1>really disastrous numbers. Latest Gallup poll approval rating for Congress

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen percent, not fifty percent. Fifteen percent. I'm also noticing

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<v Speaker 1>that fifty three members of Congress are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>not seeking reelection in the twenty twenty six midterm elections.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty devastating for the institution.

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<v Speaker 2>So why do you consider that to be devastating news?

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<v Speaker 2>Number One? If Congress is so bad that they're approved

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<v Speaker 2>written is only fifteen percent, then maybe swapping out over

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<v Speaker 2>ten percent of it's not the worst idea. Maybe we

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<v Speaker 2>just got to get the roster better. It's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Jets and the Giants have had terrible years, so

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<v Speaker 2>I would expect a few of those team members to

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<v Speaker 2>come back. But I do think it's it's telling because

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<v Speaker 2>you know some people are leaving Congress to want to

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<v Speaker 2>go out out and you know they're gonna run for

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<v Speaker 2>different officers. Like Chip Roy's running for age in Texas,

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<v Speaker 2>Wesley Hunts winner for Senate, so as Jasmincrockett. But you

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<v Speaker 2>hear rumors, and we've been hearing it for some time,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a growing sense of dissatisfaction in specifically the House

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<v Speaker 2>GOP Caucus.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's exactly right. You know, it's a very razor

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<v Speaker 1>thin majority and a lot of people are frustrated. Seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be dysfunctional. You've got people like Marjorie Taylor Green

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<v Speaker 1>that make noise and kind of disrupt everything. So we

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk to somebody who's actually been there. Our

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<v Speaker 1>good friend Jason Chafis. He was the chairman of the

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<v Speaker 1>House Oversight Committee, very powerful committee serving Congress representing Utah,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's also a distinguished fellow with the Government Accountability Institute.

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<v Speaker 3>Where we work.

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<v Speaker 1>Jason makes sense of these numbers. I mean, why are

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers fifteen percent, which is historically low, and why

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<v Speaker 1>do you think so many people are leaving Congress at

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<v Speaker 1>this point in time.

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<v Speaker 4>You're asking me to make sense of Congress. Listen and

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<v Speaker 4>look honored to be with you. A happy new year. Look,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a I think members are very frustrated and it's not.

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<v Speaker 4>It's on both sides of the aisle. It is not

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<v Speaker 4>solely a Republican situation. But members feel like they can't

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<v Speaker 4>do their jobs, and people buy start to glaze over

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<v Speaker 4>when you talk about regular order. But the way the

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<v Speaker 4>appropriations process is supposed to work is that we have

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<v Speaker 4>twelve appropriations built and every member can offer an amendment

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<v Speaker 4>or a striking amendment and participate in the process. But

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<v Speaker 4>the entire eight years that I was there, and even

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<v Speaker 4>the eight years since I've left, never, not once, have

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<v Speaker 4>they gone through a quote unquote regular order. So I

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I joke with people, I say, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's exhausting doing nothing, because what happens is they go

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<v Speaker 4>through all the process, they go through all the hearings,

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<v Speaker 4>they go through all the rigmarole, and then they want

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<v Speaker 4>to craft a bill and then it just gets superseded

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<v Speaker 4>by a continuing resolution and they flush all that good

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<v Speaker 4>work down the drain, and that get that wears on

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<v Speaker 4>people when you've been away from your family and all

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<v Speaker 4>the other opportunity costs, and people get set up with it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that actually makes a lot of sense, and it

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<v Speaker 2>actually casts the people who are leaving Congress in a

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<v Speaker 2>positive light, no joking around, because it means like to

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<v Speaker 2>your point, like you know, you want your life to

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<v Speaker 2>matter and you want what you do to do something.

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<v Speaker 2>And it also kind of suggests that if given the

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<v Speaker 2>frustrations you run into on a daily basis of doing

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<v Speaker 2>that job, then the only reason why you might want

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<v Speaker 2>to stay in that job is if you're making money

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<v Speaker 2>doing something else, and so you then they get rid

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<v Speaker 2>of the inside of trading in Congress, which is something

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<v Speaker 2>that we expect them to vote on, but it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>suggests like, hey, like why are we actually even here?

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<v Speaker 4>Then well, look, I think the body has to implement

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<v Speaker 4>and do and pass into law. It's not a constitutional

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<v Speaker 4>amendment to have term limits, get and get out. The

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<v Speaker 4>people you should worry about most are the ones that

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<v Speaker 4>stay there in perpetuity and never ever leave there. They're

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<v Speaker 4>a decade after decade. I when I left, there were

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<v Speaker 4>kind of three groups. There were people there, Hey, I

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<v Speaker 4>got nothing better to do, and it's a cool business

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<v Speaker 4>card and it's kind of fun. Number two is pretty

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<v Speaker 4>pretty weird, like they're they're all about the power and

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<v Speaker 4>maybe doing something that's pretty sketch. And then the third group,

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<v Speaker 4>I put myself in there. But there are really good

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<v Speaker 4>people who wanted to get in get work done, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>And I served with a number of those people, Trey

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<v Speaker 4>Goudie and John Ratcliffe and those types of people. Pulci

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<v Speaker 4>Gabbard was one of those people. You know. Now there

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<v Speaker 4>many of them are in the administration. But they they

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<v Speaker 4>got in, they served, and they got out, and you've

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<v Speaker 4>got to kind of force that. The other thing I

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<v Speaker 4>would do is get rid of the Appropriations Committee. I

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<v Speaker 4>would just totally flush it down the toilet, get rid

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<v Speaker 4>of it. It is totally worthless, top to bottom. You

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<v Speaker 4>have all these authorizing committees, they hold hearings, they know

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<v Speaker 4>natural resources, and then the appropriators come in and by

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<v Speaker 4>the hundreds fund programs that were never authorized by the

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<v Speaker 4>authorising committees. It's the craziest thing you've ever seen. And

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<v Speaker 4>so that again gets really frustrated. Hey, we held hearings.

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<v Speaker 4>And the other thing Congress never does is flex its muscles.

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<v Speaker 4>It never ever uses the power of the purse. That's

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<v Speaker 4>the one thing that Congress can do. It's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>all these daycare centers in Minnesota and all that, well,

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<v Speaker 4>there should be consequences, but Congress is feckless, and so

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<v Speaker 4>members are tired of taking those questions and they're like,

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<v Speaker 4>I can't change it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, Jason, that's really as I hear you

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<v Speaker 1>talking about this, and I've known you for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>you're sincere in it. I think your analysis is right.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you wonder, like, so, this is this a

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<v Speaker 1>problem of leadership?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this problem didn't just sort of like land

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<v Speaker 1>on people's laps. Somebody is responsible for this dysfunction. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying it's one person. I'm not even saying it's

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<v Speaker 1>half a dozen people. But is this a leadership problem?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you talked about some structural reforms, getting rid

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<v Speaker 1>of the committee, et cetera. But is it a leadership issue?

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<v Speaker 1>Do the wrong people rise to the top or why

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<v Speaker 1>do we get leaders that don't seem to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to tame this beast and get it to do the

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<v Speaker 1>things that's supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's interesting because I have long sought to

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<v Speaker 4>redefine the role of the Speaker of the House of Representatives.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Mike Johnson is a fabulous person. He is

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<v Speaker 4>a man of integrity, of nothing but good things to

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<v Speaker 4>say about him. He has the most impossible jobs. We

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<v Speaker 4>give him no tools to actually do it. The expectation

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<v Speaker 4>is that he can herd all these cats and move

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<v Speaker 4>them in the right direction. We got rid of ear marks.

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<v Speaker 4>I was proud of the fact that I, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I played a big role in that and say no,

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<v Speaker 4>we're done with ear marks, even though everybody in the

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<v Speaker 4>Utah delegation when I came there was supportive of it,

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<v Speaker 4>and I kind of forced him and shamed him into

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<v Speaker 4>getting rid of them. Well, that was the political candy

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<v Speaker 4>that made everything go down easier. And so when you

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<v Speaker 4>get rid of earmarks, what tools does the speaker have

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<v Speaker 4>to actually cajole and move people. I don't think you

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<v Speaker 4>necessarily want to. The role that speakers should be totally different.

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<v Speaker 4>But the body as the whole and the American people

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<v Speaker 4>have to force this issue. And it's not the sexiest

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<v Speaker 4>thing to say, all right, we're reconfiguring this. No more

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<v Speaker 4>appropriations committees, no more. But it's broken now and it

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<v Speaker 4>needs fixing. And term limits is I think one of

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<v Speaker 4>the very first steps a balanced budget amendment would go

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<v Speaker 4>a long way. Voter ID you know Mike Lee's, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Dave acts to make sure we have voter identification because

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<v Speaker 4>you literally have more than a dozen seats in Congress

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<v Speaker 4>that are essentially illegal aliens that get representations. So these

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<v Speaker 4>things I think would make a difference.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me let me ask you this, Jason.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it seems to me, and everything I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>about Speaker Johnson is the same, just high quality individual,

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<v Speaker 1>but seems to me, you look over the last twenty years,

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<v Speaker 1>Nancy Pelosi was absolutely had a spine of steel. She

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<v Speaker 1>could get all the Democrats to stay in line. Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>don't seem to be able to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>Why she controlled the money. If you wanted to raise

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<v Speaker 4>money and have a political future, look at Tim Ryan

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<v Speaker 4>out of Ohio, and when he went up against Nancy Pelosi,

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<v Speaker 4>he was done. We never talk about him anymore. So

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<v Speaker 4>she ruled that iron fist, and she was darn good

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<v Speaker 4>at it. And look, conceptually they were lemmings. They really

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<v Speaker 4>did believe in centralized government. Where Republicans talk about freedom, liberty, dealth, determination.

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<v Speaker 4>That just counter to oh okay, our leader says we're

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<v Speaker 4>going over here, so everybody get on board. The closest

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<v Speaker 4>I've seened actual you know, driving and moving everybody together

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<v Speaker 4>in the same direction as Donald Trump, and he does

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<v Speaker 4>it because he will when he lets know that that's

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<v Speaker 4>what he wants done, he is going to he is

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<v Speaker 4>going to make his way known. But you know he's

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<v Speaker 4>doing it the right way, the political way. But it's

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<v Speaker 4>going to probably take the outside groups, maybe some other

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<v Speaker 4>structural changes. But it is not functional right now, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's not serving the American people. Well, they're showing up

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<v Speaker 4>in the poll numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking to former Member of Congress Jason Chaffits. He's

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<v Speaker 2>also the former chair of the House Oversight Committee. Jason,

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<v Speaker 2>what grade would you give James Comer for the last

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<v Speaker 2>year and if you could request or sort of predict

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<v Speaker 2>one thing he will do next year, what would it be?

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<v Speaker 4>I give him an A plus. I think he will

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<v Speaker 4>ultimately end up running for governor of Kentucky, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think he'll be a fabulous governor. He has his hands full.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we transformed that committee. He used to be

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<v Speaker 4>a committee nobody wanted on when I was there, and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, after we got done, it's the most popular

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<v Speaker 4>committee out there. The frustrating thing for I think for

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<v Speaker 4>the American public is they don't give Congress handcuffs, and

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<v Speaker 4>so it was a frustration because we point out all

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<v Speaker 4>the waste, the fraud, the abuse they have, the hearings,

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<v Speaker 4>you got people under oath, and you make a recommendation,

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<v Speaker 4>it goes over to the Department of Justice and it's

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<v Speaker 4>crickets and and that's that's the frustration. And uh, something's

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<v Speaker 4>got to give because I think the American people that

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<v Speaker 4>are doing things right, they're working hard, paying their taxes,

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<v Speaker 4>got a job taking care of that, they feel like

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<v Speaker 4>chumps right now. They just feel like they feel like

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<v Speaker 4>they're chumps, Like why should I do this? You know,

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<v Speaker 4>you see what's going on in Minnesota and other places.

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<v Speaker 1>You know who thinks James Comer's doing a lousy job?

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<v Speaker 1>Bill and Hillary Clinton?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, here, here's here's here's a guy, really the

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<v Speaker 1>first government official who said we are going to subpoena

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<v Speaker 1>you and you were going to sit before the Congressional Committee.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you think that's all going to end up? Jason?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think the Clinton's are actually going to have

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<v Speaker 1>to sit before this committee?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure they can avoid it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Trey Goudy, I think said it out loud first.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, you your subpoena is only good as your

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<v Speaker 4>ability to enforce it. I went down that path, but

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<v Speaker 4>I had a speaker in Paul Ryan, who's no way

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<v Speaker 4>going to support that. You had an attorney general and

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<v Speaker 4>Jeff Sessions who told me, if it's Clinton's I'm doing nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's in large bar why I left and so,

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<v Speaker 4>and then prior to that, it was the Obama administration.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, good luck with you know, Loretta Lynch

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<v Speaker 4>and Eric Holder and that crew. So I think he

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<v Speaker 4>now finally probably has somebody in a Pam Bondi and

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<v Speaker 4>a judge Janine who's the US attorney for the District

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<v Speaker 4>of Columbia. But they're actually going to be able to

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<v Speaker 4>force the issue, and that showdown is going to be

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<v Speaker 4>a big one. But I think they're going to have

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<v Speaker 4>to come testify, I raise their hands and go under oath.

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<v Speaker 2>So every two years as an election year, obviously, but

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<v Speaker 2>this year, with especially tight majority of the Republicans are

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<v Speaker 2>holding How much does that impact how Congress operates? Does

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<v Speaker 2>it impact in terms of, like, hey, we're more willing

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<v Speaker 2>to hold hearings because we think it's better for you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's only thirty seats that are kind of up for grabs.

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<v Speaker 2>How much does that impact just the way they do

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<v Speaker 2>their day to day business, Oh, one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean the last six months of this term, I

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<v Speaker 4>think is being dishonest if you don't think that that

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<v Speaker 4>has a big you know, their political ramifications. Look, a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of it depends on the economy, A lot of

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<v Speaker 4>it depends on some of these important court rulings of birthright, citizenship,

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<v Speaker 4>those types of things. There're gonna be some really big

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<v Speaker 4>rulings coming out of the court that will affect that.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, Congress has got to get it back together.

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<v Speaker 4>They get another shot at reconciliation and so you know

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<v Speaker 4>what can they couple together that will make a difference

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<v Speaker 4>in people's lives. Yeah, Congress has it's full because there

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<v Speaker 4>is nowhere He's come so far in the first it's

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<v Speaker 4>hard to believe it's been less than twelve months of

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<v Speaker 4>Donald Trump here in his term. But yeah, there's a

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<v Speaker 4>lot that people want to see in terms of affordability, healthcare,

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<v Speaker 4>those types of things.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Jason, we understand why you left Congress. Kind of

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<v Speaker 1>wish you hadn't because we need people like you in there.

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<v Speaker 1>But we appreciate you joining us. We appreciate the work

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing with us at the Government Accountability Institute and

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<v Speaker 1>also the work you're doing with the Oversight Project. And

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<v Speaker 1>we will have to wait and see how the midterms

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<v Speaker 1>roll out. So happy New Year to you, Jason, and

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<v Speaker 1>we will continue to watch this story closely in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of these midterms and how things are going to turn out.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Eric, if you have any thoughts on that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I like Jason Chafis. Not only does he go on

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<v Speaker 2>TV all the time as a fill and host for

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<v Speaker 2>many these programs, but he's just making news now. You

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<v Speaker 2>heard him say he thinks James Comer leaves Congress, joins

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<v Speaker 2>this ground swell of people trying to get out of Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>d C. And runs for governor Kentucky. That's the first

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<v Speaker 2>time I've heard that. You agree with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's gonna be interesting to see

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<v Speaker 1>how that shakes out. It's going to be interesting to

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<v Speaker 1>see how all this jerrymandering affects the outcome of the

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<v Speaker 1>elections in November. I'm Peter Schweizer. That's Eric Eggers. We're

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<v Speaker 1>filling in on the Hannity Show. We'll be back right

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<v Speaker 1>after this break.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Friday, January second. Welcome back to the Sean Handy

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<v Speaker 2>Show on Mark Edgers. This is Peter Schweitzer. Alongside with me,

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<v Speaker 2>we co host a podcast called The Drill Down with

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Schweizer, which you can find at the Drilldown dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy to be filled in for Sean yet again on

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<v Speaker 2>this first live show of the year twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 2>Peter that you do quite well because you're a best

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<v Speaker 2>selling author, but you live in Floridas. You don't have

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<v Speaker 2>this problem if you are as successful as Peter, if

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<v Speaker 2>you are a billionaire who lives in California, I have

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<v Speaker 2>terrible news for you. You're on the hook for some

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<v Speaker 2>really potentially expensive taxes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you are. And look, we have to remind ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a federal system in America. So Donald Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>in the White House, Republicans control of the House, they

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<v Speaker 1>control the Senate, but there's a lot of states they're making.

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<v Speaker 3>Their own decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're going to talk in a little bit here

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<v Speaker 1>about the proposed wealth tax in California. There's not a

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<v Speaker 1>tax on income, there's not a property tax. This is

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<v Speaker 1>you're worth how much money, We're gonna take five percent

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<v Speaker 1>of it, and we're going to learn about some other

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<v Speaker 1>really bizarre woke laws, including ones involving horses. Coming up

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<v Speaker 1>in the next segment. We've got to remind ourselves there's

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<v Speaker 1>crazy things going on at the state level by the

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<v Speaker 1>woke mafia.

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<v Speaker 3>Even right now.

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<v Speaker 1>one seven three two six one eight hundred nine four

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<v Speaker 1>one seven three two six. You know, Donald Trump's done

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the first years we talked about earlier

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<v Speaker 1>in the segment, changing a lot of things, but at

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<v Speaker 1>the state level there still is a lot of craziness, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and some things that are really going to affect a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people.

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<v Speaker 2>We're quite lucky because we both live in the Free

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<v Speaker 2>State of Florida, and so you know, we're we've got

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<v Speaker 2>people talking about getting rid of property taxes. Roon de

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<v Speaker 2>Sants has done a great job, but other states, to

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<v Speaker 2>your point, have maybe gone the other way on that's

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<v Speaker 2>as that kind of fells a little short of conservative

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<v Speaker 2>fiscal and social policy initiatives.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is a very interesting article by Camden Molder

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<v Speaker 1>in the National Review talking about what's going on some

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<v Speaker 1>of the blue state laws in twenty twenty five. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of them are obviously predictable. California mandates gender neutral bathrooms

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<v Speaker 1>in K through twelve schools. You're mandated, mandated required to

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<v Speaker 1>have them, whether it's a charter school or a public school.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, taxpayers will pay for all of

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<v Speaker 1>those renovations. But some of them are just downright crazy

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<v Speaker 1>if you ask me. In Washington State, they have now

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<v Speaker 1>mandated hate crime work leave, hate crime work leave.

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<v Speaker 2>That is to say, you get to leave work if

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<v Speaker 2>you've been a victim of a hate crime.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you have experienced a hate crime, your boss

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<v Speaker 1>is now required to give you ample time off to

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<v Speaker 1>heal and recover from the experience. Now, I can certainly

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<v Speaker 1>understand if you are attacked in the street, somebody beats

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<v Speaker 1>you up, you're gonna need.

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<v Speaker 3>Some time off.

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<v Speaker 1>But this covers everything. So if you are harassed online

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<v Speaker 1>or on social media, or somebody calls you a name

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<v Speaker 1>in in you know, online media, your employers required to

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<v Speaker 1>give you the time off without penalty to quote get

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<v Speaker 1>your affairs in order.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>The real irony of that is, like, if you are

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<v Speaker 2>subjected to a hate crime as a Washington State resident,

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<v Speaker 2>the odds are that happened because you're goofing off at

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<v Speaker 2>work Online. You're probably just hanging on Reddit or something

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<v Speaker 2>and in too many of your comment's got down vote

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<v Speaker 2>and you're like, I'm triggering. I'm out, yes, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>taking some time off. You're rewarded for being a bad employee.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>In the state of Connecticut, they have banned this is bizarre.

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<v Speaker 1>They have banned hostile infrastructure that deters unhoused people from

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping on benches, sidewalks, et cetera. So this is public

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<v Speaker 1>Act twenty five, Dash forty nine.

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<v Speaker 3>A component of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill says that unhoused citizens now are allowed to sleep

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<v Speaker 1>where they can, and in fact, it bans hostile architecture.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, so do you know what that like. We actually

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<v Speaker 2>have examples of that in the city that we live in.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lake that's not too far from our office

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<v Speaker 2>where we're doing the show from, and they put in

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<v Speaker 2>benches because there was an unhoused population problem. Too many

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<v Speaker 2>people are kind of accosting the families and stuff. So

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<v Speaker 2>they put in little bars in the middle of the bench,

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<v Speaker 2>like a little spiky thing, you know, you could it's

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<v Speaker 2>like a little armrest, maybe, yeah, but it's meant to

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<v Speaker 2>keep people from sleeping on the benches. So that would

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<v Speaker 2>be a crime in Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, armrests in the middle of a bench are

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<v Speaker 1>considered hostile architecture and are now banned in the state

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<v Speaker 1>of Connecticut. The bill, of course, passed with no Republican support.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I will say this, you know, if I'm sympathetic

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<v Speaker 2>to any of them, I might be sympathetic to that,

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<v Speaker 2>because if you're a homeless person in Connecticut, your problem

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<v Speaker 2>is not architecture. Your problem is the cold. Like I

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<v Speaker 2>respect to you for being a homeless person in Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 2>You're tough.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, Well, also in the state of Illinois, they

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<v Speaker 1>pass a law that insurance plans now must cover therapeutic

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<v Speaker 1>horse riding. So this is in August, Governor JB. Prisker

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<v Speaker 1>signed to Senate Bill sixty nine into law. It requires

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<v Speaker 1>insurance companies to cover hippotherapy. Now, I'd never heard of hippotherapy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's apparently therapy with horses. But this mandates that insurance

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<v Speaker 1>plans cover horse therapy for physical or occupational or speech therapy.

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<v Speaker 1>Through the interacting where they horse.

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<v Speaker 2>Illinois so corrupt and transactional. Remember Rod Bogoyvitch was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a Senate seat to sell. I'm about to

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<v Speaker 2>make so much money off of this. So when you

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<v Speaker 2>tell me that, it makes me think that the horse

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<v Speaker 2>lobby is that they got their finger on the pulse

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<v Speaker 2>of the legislature there, Like we got all these horses and

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<v Speaker 2>nobody's trying to ride it to cold in Chicago. We

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<v Speaker 2>need to get on the horse therapy game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and again people wonder why their health's insurance rates

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<v Speaker 1>go up. I'm not saying it's just things, but there

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of crazy things that get embedded. Where

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<v Speaker 1>states require insurance companies to cover things, their cost go up.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to raise their their prices.

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<v Speaker 2>So those are laws that actually passed. A law that

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<v Speaker 2>has been proposed is a valid initiative that would impose

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<v Speaker 2>a one time five percent tax on anyone in the

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<v Speaker 2>state of California worth a billion dollars the service employers

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<v Speaker 2>in International Union. The SEIU has proposed this. Now, of

0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:15.720
<v Speaker 2>course it's California, so there's always other stuff going on.

0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:18.600
<v Speaker 2>Gavin Newsom seems to loom large over this idea. What

0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:22.080
<v Speaker 2>do you think about this proposed one time five percent

0:23:22.200 --> 0:23:23.760
<v Speaker 2>wealth tax on billionaires.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, first of all, one time. I mean, come on,

0:23:26.720 --> 0:23:29.639
<v Speaker 1>they say it's one time. If they actually pull it

0:23:29.680 --> 0:23:31.760
<v Speaker 1>off and they get some revenue, even though a lot

0:23:31.760 --> 0:23:33.639
<v Speaker 1>of people are gonna leave, they're gonna do it again.

0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:36.680
<v Speaker 1>It's a shakedown. Once you give into a shakedown one time,

0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:39.240
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get it more often. But this is I

0:23:39.280 --> 0:23:42.600
<v Speaker 1>think a major escalation and taxation in America is because

0:23:42.600 --> 0:23:45.600
<v Speaker 1>you're not talking about taxing somebody's home or you know,

0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:48.399
<v Speaker 1>they're commercial real estate and a property tax or an

0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:50.680
<v Speaker 1>income tax that we've had, you know, for the last

0:23:51.200 --> 0:23:54.240
<v Speaker 1>century in the United States. You're saying all the money

0:23:54.240 --> 0:23:57.200
<v Speaker 1>that you've saved up over the course of however long

0:23:57.280 --> 0:23:59.560
<v Speaker 1>your career is, even if it's a billion dollars, we're

0:23:59.560 --> 0:24:02.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna take five percent of a chunk of that and

0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:05.120
<v Speaker 1>we are going to use it to fix the fiscal

0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:08.160
<v Speaker 1>crisis that California is in, because after all, the problem

0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:11.159
<v Speaker 1>in California is that people do not pay enough taxes.

0:24:11.520 --> 0:24:14.000
<v Speaker 1>And if we just get more tax revenue, things are

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<v Speaker 1>going to get better in California.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, that's the problem with California. Not enough revenue

0:24:19.880 --> 0:24:20.840
<v Speaker 2>the real problem.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the contrast. By the way we live in Florida.

0:24:23.720 --> 0:24:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Texas is considering the same thing. Big states. California is

0:24:27.040 --> 0:24:30.320
<v Speaker 1>the biggest, but we're in big states. Our two states. Well,

0:24:30.359 --> 0:24:31.879
<v Speaker 1>in the state of Florida, I should say, we have

0:24:31.920 --> 0:24:36.760
<v Speaker 1>no state income tax. They are actually considering eliminating property

0:24:36.840 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 1>taxes on your primary residents. And they say they can

0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:44.720
<v Speaker 1>do this and there will be no cutbacks. And yet California,

0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:47.400
<v Speaker 1>which has the highest state income tax in the country,

0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:50.879
<v Speaker 1>and you know, has all these fiscal problems which we

0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:54.200
<v Speaker 1>don't have in Florida. They're just going to now implement

0:24:54.240 --> 0:24:56.679
<v Speaker 1>a new tax. Apparently, if this thing actually passes as

0:24:56.720 --> 0:24:57.520
<v Speaker 1>a state initiative.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, by the way, the tax on your net worth

0:24:59.800 --> 0:25:03.119
<v Speaker 2>is worth pointing out, would happen because you've accumulated that

0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:06.720
<v Speaker 2>net worth after paying taxes on your income. So you're

0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:10.120
<v Speaker 2>gonna be paying taxes again on money that you got

0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:13.199
<v Speaker 2>to keep after being taxed the first time. So major

0:25:13.280 --> 0:25:17.199
<v Speaker 2>problems there. I would suggest that the reason why California

0:25:17.240 --> 0:25:19.600
<v Speaker 2>is in this difficult problem that they need to raise

0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:23.000
<v Speaker 2>enough money from this proposal is because of how expensive

0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:25.600
<v Speaker 2>it is to be in California. Now remember this, We've

0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:28.320
<v Speaker 2>talked about this on a podcast before, but for four

0:25:28.440 --> 0:25:32.080
<v Speaker 2>years in a row, California had the largest net loss

0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:34.960
<v Speaker 2>of one way movers that don't take my worth word,

0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:38.720
<v Speaker 2>that's U haul U hauls. Like no, we literally run

0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:42.480
<v Speaker 2>out of U hauls in California because people are doing

0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:44.879
<v Speaker 2>too many one way they get the U haul in California,

0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:47.680
<v Speaker 2>they take it anywhere else, Yeah, anywhere else that it's

0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:51.439
<v Speaker 2>much cheaper. And so you know, Gaven Newsom at one

0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:54.800
<v Speaker 2>point had a ninety eight billion dollar budget surplus because

0:25:54.800 --> 0:25:57.879
<v Speaker 2>of all the federal COVID subsidies, and he managed Gavin

0:25:57.880 --> 0:26:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Newsom did this is the potential presidential front right for

0:26:00.640 --> 0:26:03.120
<v Speaker 2>the Democrat Party to turn a ninety eight billion dollars

0:26:03.119 --> 0:26:05.080
<v Speaker 2>for a plus to do a forty five billion dollar

0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:06.120
<v Speaker 2>budget deficit.

0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Hey, not everybody has a great year, right m M yeah, No,

0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:11.600
<v Speaker 1>it's it's what's going to be interesting to watch in

0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:14.600
<v Speaker 1>this whole debate is I don't think Gavin Newsom has

0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:18.280
<v Speaker 1>taken a public position on this tax, which, by the way,

0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:20.840
<v Speaker 1>is being pushed by the Service Employees International Union. What

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:22.840
<v Speaker 1>does this have to do with union organizing?

0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:23.479
<v Speaker 3>Nothing?

0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:26.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is just pure political activism. But Gavin

0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:29.320
<v Speaker 1>Newsom's in a dilemma because he's going to run for president.

0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:32.800
<v Speaker 1>That seems pretty clear he needs the progressives. They have

0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:35.320
<v Speaker 1>the energy in the party. That's clearly the center of

0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:38.520
<v Speaker 1>gravity in the party. Anybody who campaigns is a moderate

0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:40.320
<v Speaker 1>for president is going to have a hard time getting

0:26:40.320 --> 0:26:43.840
<v Speaker 1>the nomination. But if you go into Crazyville, right, you

0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:46.480
<v Speaker 1>go too far to the left, Ala Bernie Sanders or

0:26:46.560 --> 0:26:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris.

0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 3>You're gonna lose. You're gonna lose.

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:51.679
<v Speaker 1>Because that's not where the center of gravity of the

0:26:51.840 --> 0:26:54.439
<v Speaker 1>of the country is. So he's got to straddle this.

0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:56.879
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't want to offend the progressives. But on the

0:26:56.920 --> 0:27:00.240
<v Speaker 1>other hand. He knows this is a stupid idea, because

0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:03.080
<v Speaker 1>the New York Times is reported that already Sergey Brinn

0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 1>and Peter Tiel, these Silicon Valley billionaire investor made plans

0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:10.960
<v Speaker 1>last year in twenty twenty five to change their residents

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:13.760
<v Speaker 1>in anticipation of this bill. Because, by the way, what's

0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:16.679
<v Speaker 1>interesting is this is a referendum to be held in

0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:20.720
<v Speaker 1>November of twenty twenty six. It's retroactive. So if you

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:23.720
<v Speaker 1>live there today on January the second, and you've got

0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 1>that kind of money and this thing passes, it doesn't

0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:28.960
<v Speaker 1>matter where you move, they're going to come after you.

0:27:29.000 --> 0:27:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, it turns out the billionaires they part of the

0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 2>reason that they become billionaires is they pay lawyers and accountants.

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:36.160
<v Speaker 2>So I guess they had a bit of a heads

0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 2>up on this. But I want to follow up on

0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:40.640
<v Speaker 2>something you just said, because you're right, the center of gravity,

0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:44.720
<v Speaker 2>the energy for Democrats running for president, the presidential primary

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:47.639
<v Speaker 2>certainly is the progressive There's no doubt about that. So

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:50.320
<v Speaker 2>you need them to be successful in a presidential campaign,

0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:53.720
<v Speaker 2>but you also need money, and you need then the

0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:58.840
<v Speaker 2>support of progressive billionaires. So you wrote a book called

0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:01.679
<v Speaker 2>Extortion and you introduced this idea. It is brilliant back

0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:04.000
<v Speaker 2>in the time. Came out in twenty thirteen, but it

0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:07.200
<v Speaker 2>was this idea that members of Congress will introduce legislation

0:28:07.560 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 2>that they don't actually intend for it to pass, but

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 2>they use it as a vehicle to do what.

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:16.120
<v Speaker 1>To extort money? Right in other words, Oh, this real

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:18.000
<v Speaker 1>and I go here where you're going with this? And

0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:21.399
<v Speaker 1>it's really a great point for Gavin Newsom. This is

0:28:21.400 --> 0:28:24.200
<v Speaker 1>a way to get progressive billionaires to back him because

0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:27.360
<v Speaker 1>he's the only guy that can stop this, right, he's

0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:29.880
<v Speaker 1>the only guy. It's the classic you know, the mafia

0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 1>shows up at the corner deli in town and they say, oh,

0:28:32.560 --> 0:28:35.360
<v Speaker 1>it'd be a shame if this place burned down. I've

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:38.720
<v Speaker 1>got fire insurance. I'll protect you. That's essentially what the

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 1>move could be here and that that's a great point.

0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if he's trying to shore up the fundraising

0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:46.560
<v Speaker 1>for a twenty eight presidential campaign, this is the way

0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 1>that Gavin Newsom can get a lot.

0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:48.440
<v Speaker 3>Of that back.

0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:50.120
<v Speaker 2>And he comes to you, he said, listen, I'm the

0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:53.080
<v Speaker 2>only thing staying between you and a five percent tax

0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:56.560
<v Speaker 2>on your net worth. California residents and so give me.

0:28:56.520 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 3>Two percent of your network and you'll come up three percent.

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's a great idea, but I'm in

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 2>this weird spot because I'm gavin news to him and

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 2>I went, I pivoted from having Steve Bannon on podcasts

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 2>and now I'm like, you know, back in support of

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 2>all these progressive ideas, and I'm trolling Donald Trump, and

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:13.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm you know, I delivered the biggest actual win in

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 2>terms of the redistricting initiative in California, so like, people

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 2>aren't so much concerned about the fact that California is

0:29:18.800 --> 0:29:22.520
<v Speaker 2>a failed state with multi billion dollar budget deficits because

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:24.720
<v Speaker 2>I did this thing that seems like it's helping to

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:28.280
<v Speaker 2>fight Donald Trump. I just think he's very smart politically, Yes,

0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:31.800
<v Speaker 2>And it wouldn't shock me if this is part of

0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:34.600
<v Speaker 2>his larger plan to position himself, because yeah, how can

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:36.200
<v Speaker 2>you kind of straddle it? Hey, Look, we want to

0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:38.560
<v Speaker 2>be you know, we want to fight against people, but

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:40.360
<v Speaker 2>I also need the support. So I think this is

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:41.560
<v Speaker 2>part of his presidential campaign.

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton had back in the day in nineteen ninety two,

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 1>the so called Sister Soldia Moment.

0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:48.920
<v Speaker 3>There was a musical performer Sister Soldier.

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:51.320
<v Speaker 1>I think she was a rapper and some you know,

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 1>raunchy lyrics at least back in the day. And Bill

0:29:55.800 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Clinton denounced her and said this is cultural rot. We

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 1>can't have this in the country. He took criticism from

0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:05.880
<v Speaker 1>some people in Democratic Party but sort of centered his

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 1>reputation as somebody that was prepared to police both sides.

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 1>So this would be the move for Gavin Newsome, and

0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:14.440
<v Speaker 1>it makes a lot of sense, and it could be

0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:17.239
<v Speaker 1>very very effective going up to twenty twenty eight, at

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:20.440
<v Speaker 1>least in terms of getting the Democratic nomination and doing

0:30:20.560 --> 0:30:22.800
<v Speaker 1>so by not having to go so far to the

0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:25.880
<v Speaker 1>left that he alienates too many voters in the middle.

0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:27.760
<v Speaker 2>It'd be really interesting to see what happens. And you know,

0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 2>there's been a lot of talk about the Minnesota Somali fraud,

0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:32.560
<v Speaker 2>and we're going to talk to former Governor Tim Paulenti

0:30:32.560 --> 0:30:35.400
<v Speaker 2>in the five o'clock hour about that and just kind

0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:40.360
<v Speaker 2>of how Minnesota developed into what it's become where you've

0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 2>had one party rule for twenty years. But Minnesota, I

0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:45.320
<v Speaker 2>think is the latest iteration of California. California was at

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 2>one point, as you well know, a Republican was governor

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:51.080
<v Speaker 2>of California at one point, and I mean, when was

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:53.720
<v Speaker 2>the last time Republican won statewide office in California? And

0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 2>you and for as much talk about the ten billion

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 2>dollars in fraud in Minnesota, there's a recent report that

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:01.640
<v Speaker 2>it could be one hundred billion dollars of fraud in California.

0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 2>I think eight different agencies failed this audit. So, I mean,

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:09.040
<v Speaker 2>California is like Minnesota, but blown up in a bigger way.

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:11.600
<v Speaker 2>And you know, that's not a conversation Gavin Newson wants

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:14.640
<v Speaker 2>to have. But I do think that that's like when

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 2>you start peeking under the hood, people are gonna ask

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 2>real questions about just how badly it's been run.

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:21.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and here's the thing.

0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, fraud happens everywhere, right, Corruption happens everywhere. But

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 1>what we're basically arguing, and I think it's true, is

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 1>that this is politically supported fraud in California and in Minnesota.

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, in other words, they kind of have a

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:37.680
<v Speaker 1>sense that it's going on. We're gonna be playing an

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 1>audio tape in the next hour of an audio tape

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:44.120
<v Speaker 1>of the twenty twenty one conversation that the Attorney General

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 1>of Minnesota had with some Somali businessmen. They're just gonna

0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:50.320
<v Speaker 1>shock you and illustrate this point that we're making.

0:31:50.360 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 2>No, it's absolutely stay tuned for that conversation. Plus, we'll

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:54.920
<v Speaker 2>take your calls. It's one eight hundred ninety four one Sean,

0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 2>one one hundred ninety for one Sean. He's Peter Schweizer,

0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:00.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm Eric Eggers. We're feeling in for the Sean handy raisers.

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:01.160
<v Speaker 2>We'll be back right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi speaker. Schweitzer is sitting next to me Xerich Eggers

0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:07.040
<v Speaker 1>and we are filling in for Sean. Hannerty joined the

0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 1>conversation one eight hundred and nine four one seven, three

0:32:09.640 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 1>two six. Let's take a caller. Let's go to Lisa,

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:14.960
<v Speaker 1>who wants to talk about Mam Donnie in New York.

0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 3>Hey, Lisa, how are you?

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 6>I'm good? How are y'all?

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:20.560
<v Speaker 3>We are great? Happy New Year to you.

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:22.240
<v Speaker 6>Well, happy new year.

0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:25.600
<v Speaker 3>So what do you want to tell us about Mamdannie.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I happen to be reading some you know, some

0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 6>information today and I came across this new act that's

0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:40.560
<v Speaker 6>being implemented in New York City is called COPA CEE

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Speaker 6>as in kat Os in Orange pas and paul A

0:32:44.120 --> 0:32:48.200
<v Speaker 6>is in Apple Copa Act, which it says a law that.

0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:50.920
<v Speaker 4>Would force homeowners to offer their.

0:32:50.800 --> 0:32:56.080
<v Speaker 6>Property to the government or in geos before they can.

0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 4>Sell it freely.

0:32:57.560 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's amazing. That's a huge infringe on property right now.

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:03.880
<v Speaker 2>And I would say that's exactly an example of something

0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:06.320
<v Speaker 2>you heard Carol Markowitz talk about earlier in this program

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 2>about hey, there are some real limits to what mom

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 2>Donnie can do, but then there's some stuff that he

0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 2>can do, and like that seems like an example of

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:18.520
<v Speaker 2>like allowing big government to take over potentially in you know, nonprofits.

0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:22.760
<v Speaker 2>We've seen this really bizarre relationship between nonprofits and the

0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:25.680
<v Speaker 2>government in these progressive areas. We're going to talk to

0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:29.200
<v Speaker 2>Tim Paul Lenty, the former government Minnesota, about exactly that

0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:32.080
<v Speaker 2>and what's going on in his former state. We write back,

0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:34.560
<v Speaker 2>He's Piercechwiz are America Edgers. This is the Shawan Handy Show,

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<v Speaker 2>right