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Speaker 1: J J. Watt in the backfield j J. Watt, Baby

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Speaker 1: Conner to the ten, to the five and end of

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Speaker 1: the end zone for the touchdown. Welcome to Cardinals Underground,

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Speaker 1: presented by Pacific Office Automation. Visit Pacificoffice dot com. Problem

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Speaker 1: solved touchdown Tyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces.

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Speaker 1: All that was nasty. Writer writes the latest news and

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Speaker 1: notes from the insiders who cover the teams. Drilled by Simmons.

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons is bawling, bring it on, Bring it on.

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Speaker 1: Swim the ground by Buda Baker like a torpedo. He

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Speaker 1: came flying into the backfield, pink skirt and nobody here's

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Speaker 1: Paul caldc Right. Hippo laws are such that I don't

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Speaker 1: have the ability to either know and or ask as

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Speaker 1: to whether you've had your appropriate shots here this season.

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Speaker 1: But I will say I know for sure that you

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Speaker 1: both have had your requisite shot a vitamin W to

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Speaker 1: start this week. How about that? I like it. I

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Speaker 1: thought you meant just shots taken in general, because I

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Speaker 1: was gonna vouch for Darren on that one. No, I'm

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Speaker 1: not talking about that Friday night in Nashville. I'm not

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Speaker 1: talking about those shots. No, I'm talking about vitamin W

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Speaker 1: which stands Danny four. When how about that? How about that?

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Speaker 1: I liked? I liked that quote from Antonio Hamilton this week.

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Speaker 1: I thought you were going to go with like the

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Speaker 1: shots you need to like travel internationally even so did I? No,

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Speaker 1: we'll get to that in a little bit. No, No,

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Speaker 1: I want I actually we need to get a little

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Speaker 1: from because you know, you do some stuff, you start

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Speaker 1: looking okay. The Cardinals went there in two thousand and five,

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Speaker 1: and and so I came across this fine photo that

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Speaker 1: I needed to make sure that that is not Paul.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who that is, but it's not Paul.

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Speaker 1: As you hand me your phone. This is bad podcasting.

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Speaker 1: We can't see anything. Wait a minute, what that isn't me? Is?

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Speaker 1: This is an amazing kick? Sure, I love that hair.

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Speaker 1: Can't even from what is going on. I want to

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Speaker 1: make sure I'll get that. What had again, Paul Calvici

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Speaker 1: looking like he's uh yeah, that was my first year.

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Speaker 1: Paul was the first year man that's before twenty years

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Speaker 1: of morning radio age me and dog years. That's basically

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Speaker 1: what happened. I think it's only fair for the viewers

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Speaker 1: who don't get to have eyes on the podcast that

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Speaker 1: you post the picture so when they're listening to something

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Speaker 1: to maybe maybe we'll just make it the thumbnail for

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Speaker 1: the podcast. I love it. Yeah, once we get out

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Speaker 1: of you know, international airspace, so'll post it. That's probably

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Speaker 1: what will happen. Something like that will be It's a

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Speaker 1: great photo though, of a very young Paul Calvci raid

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Speaker 1: to take on the world or in this case, Mexico

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Speaker 1: City on a Sunday night back in two thousand and five.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you it's someone who's been down on

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Speaker 1: the field in ann Arbor, the Big House from Michigan,

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame. That that was a scene in Mexico City.

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Speaker 1: I am looking forward to this, there's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of different aspects of it. The fact

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Speaker 1: that two hours before kickoff it was raucous. Anybody who

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Speaker 1: in Mexico City. When Cliff Kingsbury said that to the media,

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Speaker 1: he was not kidding. He got serious intel on what's

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Speaker 1: the whole international thing here in a little bit. As

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Speaker 1: for the Cardinals and the you know, the whole vitamin

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Speaker 1: gonna go with Danny to start, and props to Antonio

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Speaker 1: what I was going to start with. Well, it's a

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Speaker 1: about that one? Come on, I'll fire here. How about

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Speaker 1: Colt McCoy. Though, seriously, you know what, honestly, show a

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Speaker 1: hands here, everyone listening to a Cardinals Underground brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Pacific Office Automation. Did you really have any

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Speaker 1: doubt that Colt McCoy at least was going to be

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Speaker 1: we've seen that before, not just with the Cardinals, but

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Speaker 1: so stinking frustrate, frustrating in training camp because we'd go

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Speaker 1: to us the first half of training camp before Cole

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Speaker 1: that's how his arm got all the mile John and

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Speaker 1: how he got hurt because Kyler was down early and

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Speaker 1: Because the other mantra I heard in that locker room

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Speaker 1: resitiation here with the offensive line. And you know what's

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Speaker 1: sort of like the starters in basketball. Right, all the

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Speaker 1: It is interesting, just real quick, Paula. When you start

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Speaker 1: offensive line, let's not forget about number ninety nine, Aaron Donald.

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Speaker 1: How many quarterbacks would have been defeated before the game

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Speaker 1: my goodness, I have a patchwork, makeshift offensive line and

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Speaker 1: there's the biggest, baddest dude to maybe ever play defense

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Speaker 1: you're healthy, you go, you come to us if you're

429
00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 1: not feeling one hundred percent because he's been he missed

430
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,119
Speaker 1: three games with that ribs injury where Eno played really well,

431
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 1: and so the first game to have James b back,

432
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 1: And that was the reason Kingsbury gave when asked why

433
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 1: Benjamin had such limited snaps and his press conference on Monday.

434
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,679
Speaker 1: So I'm wondering if this is more than just telling

435
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 1: Eno Benjamin, hey, this is our game plan for this week.

436
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,639
Speaker 1: Maybe this is what it looked like more in the

437
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 1: future of like, hey, we're just going to keep going

438
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 1: to James. We're not really going to do a complimentary

439
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 1: running back situation. You're not going to play a lot

440
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 1: Like I wonder if it's more than just, you know,

441
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 1: like a short term vision. I would agree with that.

442
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 1: I would. You know, I know that Cliff Kingsbury and

443
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 1: a few of the players said that they really thought

444
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 1: that James Conner wore down the Rams defense as the

445
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 1: game went along, and that's what a big power back

446
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 1: can do. That's not evil, Benjamin. That is a James

447
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 1: Connor skill set that you know what, guys maybe start

448
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: turning down tackles or start getting worn down in that

449
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. That it was Kelvin Beecham after the game

450
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 1: who called James Connor quote the Hammer and said he

451
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 1: told he told Connor you need twenty touches per game,

452
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: which is exactly He got twenty one carries and he

453
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: got like three receptions. So even the offensive line, they're

454
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: definitely in favor of a big back like a James Conner,

455
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: who who's coming off a Pro Bowl yet a heck

456
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 1: of a year when healthy. You see what he does,

457
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: especially in the red zone. But that's what's weird, because

458
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 1: if Benjamin has a different style than Connor, you have

459
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: to understand you're going to get different reps. Obviously, not

460
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 1: only James Connor being your number one running back and

461
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: what he's getting paid and whatnot, but the style is different.

462
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: You're going to be used differently. And I would imagine

463
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 1: that Eno understood that at the start of the season.

464
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: Maybe this is a scenario where because Eno played so

465
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Speaker 1: well when he was at number one running back, at

466
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: one point he was the only running back active in

467
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: a game that wasn't injured and he felt like he

468
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: played really well. Maybe when he found out that as

469
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 1: soon as James was going to be one hundred percent,

470
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: it was okay. You know, maybe he felt like he

471
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: had earned more snaps, more playing time because of his

472
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: performance and just going back to the way things where

473
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 1: maybe that was just too much for him. It'll be interesting.

474
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 1: We just have breaking news as we were recording this

475
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 1: that Eno Benjamin was claimed off waivers by Houston. OK.

476
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: So he's a Texas guy. He is a high school

477
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: legend in Texas. Yes, so going near home. I think

478
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: he's in the debt from the Dallas area, so not

479
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: exactly on the corner, but a couple hour drive. Texas

480
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: is too damn big. But anyways, Wow, I'm so offended.

481
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: Good job, Daron, you said that. As if I should

482
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: be offended, I know I was working on it. I

483
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: haven't really zinged you at all tonight, Danny, So I

484
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 1: gotta get to that. Thank you. At some point ENO's

485
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 1: going to talk to the media, so hopefully we'll get

486
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: his side of things. Well, there is a report that

487
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: he had a confrontation with an assistant coach. That's true

488
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 1: and is There is no running backs coach right now

489
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 1: for the Arizona Cardinals officially listed correct, well, there's no

490
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: because James Saxon is no long longer with the team,

491
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: but they have had guys that have been that have

492
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 1: been working with the running backs for this whole time.

493
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: There there are, there are running backs coaches, even if

494
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: they're not listed as running backs coaches. Now, whether that's

495
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: who you know might have gotten into it with I

496
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: don't know. Um And exactly what happened we don't know.

497
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 1: But but again, Cliff kings Burrell talk Wednesday at some point,

498
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: you know, was going to talk and maybe everybody just

499
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 1: moves on. I did find it interesting. Jalen Strong, the

500
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 1: former Arizona State wide receiver who obviously not obviously but

501
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 1: he played with Eno at Arizona State, tweeted out yesterday,

502
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 1: I know what happened, and you know it's better for

503
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 1: me not to say anything more, but you know, both

504
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: sides move on or something. But in the replies, and

505
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing right now, but people were asking Jalen's Strong

506
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: questions and he kept answering them, and he never quite

507
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: came out and said it. But one thing he did

508
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: say was he felt like it might have been a

509
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: petty reason is how he termed it, but the Cardinals

510
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: were not wrong to do it, so whatever that means,

511
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: what's interesting. I didn't see that, but I did see

512
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: the Jaalen Strong appearance on the Mark mccloon podcast. He

513
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: joined via zoom yesterday b S and there's a quote

514
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: I wrote it down among other things Jaalen Strong said

515
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: about you know quote. He ultimately got himself released, and

516
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: then he went onto the whole sort of explanation of

517
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: you know, you're coming off a win, you're supposed to

518
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 1: have the Wii versus me mentality, and if there's a

519
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: guy in a locker room was worried about me instead

520
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 1: of we after a win. He was actually pro Cardinals

521
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,479
Speaker 1: jail and Strong, which I did not expect when I

522
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 1: clicked on it, And then he said, you know what,

523
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: and if a guy maybe has negative energy, all weak.

524
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: He then concluded the thoughts by saying, you know, it's

525
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: a thing. It's something then that maybe could have been fixed,

526
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: But it doesn't sound like Eno was all that willing

527
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 1: to make amends. According to the Jail and Strong, A

528
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: couple things popped in my head. One obviously, Eno didn't

529
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:18,479
Speaker 1: take his vitamin W which is always tough. A lot

530
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: of people talking about hard knocks and being able to

531
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 1: see this, and I'm curious because him being released was Monday,

532
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: and the episode that we're about to see this week

533
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: will end at the end of the RAMS game. But

534
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: that does that include if there's anything that happened post

535
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: game or during game. And more importantly, as you talk

536
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: about that was it was there stuff going on all week?

537
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: You know? And again and now I'm totally speculating based

538
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 1: on what you just said, but this just popped into

539
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: my head. But where the things going on all week

540
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: where they told, you know, he might not play a

541
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 1: lot and he was grumpy about it, and then it

542
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: just kind of snowball. I know. I had a quick

543
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: conversation was Wednesday or Thursday? I asked about Aaron Donald

544
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: in the run game because you know, you know, because

545
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: Zeno would go into the offensive line room a lot.

546
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's and he talked about and he kind

547
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: of gave me you know, you know a lot of

548
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: teams will try and do the inside zone and run

549
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: away from Aaron Donald because a lot of times he'll

550
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: try and you know, he'll he'll take a chance and

551
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: kind of come from the backside, and you can run

552
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: away from him and actually be effective to the opposite direction.

553
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. And I noticed not a single change

554
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: in his demeanor. It was the typical upbeat, you know,

555
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: for whatever that's worth. The other thing that is interesting

556
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 1: with all of this, and I know, Paul, you probably

557
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: can attest to this the most of this conversation. From

558
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: you know, Benjamin, I believe it was big red rage.

559
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: There was a time where he was in Kingsbury's doghouse

560
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: ye early on in his career, and we heard all

561
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: offseason that it wasn't just seeing the growth physically from

562
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: you know, being able to handle a bigger role. Was

563
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: a lot of that matturation this year, the mental side

564
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: of personally and as I think maybe more as a

565
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: team as a hole, of handling that responsibility that they

566
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: thought physically he could handle. So it's interesting that if

567
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: Eno was at one point really in Kingsbury, Kingsbury's doghouse

568
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: and he found a way to kind of change the

569
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: narrative and get the opportunities he got this year, what

570
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: is it to where there was Finally, I'm not sure

571
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: on which end there was just enough. If you've gotten

572
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: this far, what was the straw that broke the camel's back?

573
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: Bigger picture, it's it's always an interesting conversation. And Paul,

574
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: you and I have been around it for a long time,

575
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: and Danny's been around it a long time now herself,

576
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: not as long as us, old people, but thank you.

577
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: It is about we, but it isn't always about we.

578
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: I mean, the bottom line is eno Benjamin can't get

579
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: a second or a big second contract unless he gets

580
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: more work. Now he was under contract for another year,

581
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: and before all this happened, I'm thinking to myself, Okay,

582
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: you got James Connor. He's probably back next year. He's

583
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: signed a three year deal. I'm guessing he probably comes

584
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: back next year unless something funny happens. And then you

585
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: knows his number two, you know, has earned his way

586
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: into the number two. He's the Chase Edmonds to Connor.

587
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: These days. Darryl Williams probably isn't back. You have Keyante

588
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: Ingraham and then you if you need a fourth running back,

589
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: you see what you want to do with Jonathan Ward whatever.

590
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: But I thought for sure, you know Benjamin in twenty

591
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: twenty three, those are your top three running backs and

592
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: that just all got blown to hell, and it's it's

593
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: just interesting. Now you know, we're saying he's going to

594
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: the Texans, he's got a chance to do some things

595
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: there because I think they'll they have, they have, they're

596
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: checking out a lot of different stuff. But that's a

597
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: team that is not very good. He might get more reps,

598
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: but you know, not that the Cardinals are great, but

599
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: they're way better than the Texans right now. So it's

600
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting to see how that plays out.

601
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: And if Jalen Strong is right and he you know,

602
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: got himself released, and it doesn't sound like, you know,

603
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: got him self released, like I'm disappointed. Can you please

604
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: let me go so I can go somewhere else? That

605
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: does not sound especially after seeing ENO's tweet with the

606
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: blue Heart yesterday, I didn't get the impression, you know,

607
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: was thrilled he was released. I was actually surprised here

608
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: he was making nine hundred grand this year as a

609
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: former seventh round pick. I was actually surprised that it is.

610
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: I guess it's that's a minimum salary though, that's it.

611
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: That's what a third year player probably makes as a

612
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: minimum salary on these days. And by the way, somebody

613
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: reported that Colt McCoy was making one point two five

614
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: or one point three five this year, But that doesn't

615
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: include the signing bonus he got. So the bonus that

616
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: would be remarkable. Let your remarkable value if you're the

617
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: club on that one with cold McCoy only. All right,

618
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: So maybe here's the segue. More surprised that you're not

619
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: going to see, you know, going forward, or that you

620
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: actually saw Buddha on the field against the Rams. Danny,

621
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: what says you? I feel like it would be disrespectful.

622
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: I said, it was more surprising to see Buddha Baker

623
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: out on the field because, especially after watching Hard Knocks,

624
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: I mean, we know that he is not human. In

625
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: that first Hard Knocks episode, Buddha hurt his ankle. There's

626
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: a play he starts it off by hopping, he is limping,

627
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: and he somehow makes the goal line tackle. I mean,

628
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: just incredible what he is able to do, not just

629
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: physically but mentally. He was ruled out of the game

630
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: on Monday with an ankle injury, something that Cliff Kingsbury

631
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: does not do, if ever, is rule out a player

632
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: that early in the week, sometimes even late in the week.

633
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: So the fact that that's where everyone thought Buddha was

634
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: with his ankle injury. He gets one day of practice

635
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: on Friday, there's no brace, there's nothing on the ankle.

636
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,239
Speaker 1: Everyone who's out at practice is surprised to see him

637
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: out there and thinking maybe he's just getting loose. He'll

638
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: be ready for the Mexico City game. And for Buddha

639
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: to go out and play the way he did, not

640
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: being one hundred percent have that game ceiling interception where

641
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: he ran it back for like what fifty yards on

642
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,959
Speaker 1: that ankle so impressive. He was yelling get down, by

643
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: the way, get down, just get down, just insane. I

644
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: actually got a chance to talk with Buddha after the game,

645
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: and that was my first question was how did you

646
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: do that? Where did that resiliency come from? And he

647
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: said he treats every game like a playoff game and

648
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: that he was told it was going to be a

649
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: three to four week recovery process. However, the way he

650
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: was treating his body and that his recovery process along

651
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: with the Cardinals training staff, because he let's make it clear,

652
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: he's not going to get clear to play if it's

653
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: not his best interest and he is not healthy enough.

654
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: So the way that they worked together and he was

655
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: able to go out even though he wasn't one hundred percent,

656
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: he said it was good enough to help the team

657
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: get the win. Just incredible. I had a chance to

658
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: talk to Buddha briefly on the Thursday, so he was

659
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: practicing the next day, but nobody thought at that point.

660
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: Everybody thought he was still out. And I was actually

661
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: working on a story about how the Buddha could still

662
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: possibly help the defense when he wasn't on the field,

663
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: and it was kind of talking about what I always

664
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: saw in the hard knocks and being a leader everything.

665
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: Now he saw me in the locker room, he was

666
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: he was dumb to be in there when the media

667
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: was in there if he really didn't want to talk

668
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: to anybody, but he was in there, but he started

669
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: scooting away. No one else was gonna and I tried

670
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 1: to go get him, and he kind of was like, ah,

671
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: I'm like come on, and he's like, okay, I'll give

672
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: you one question, and we kind of ducked into the

673
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,959
Speaker 1: into the equipment room and I got one quote from him,

674
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: and and then he said he goes, don't say anything

675
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: he goes, but don't count me out this weekend. And

676
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, Okay, that's a player that all

677
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,919
Speaker 1: you know, they all say that, don't count me out

678
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: because they got to be saved from themselves. But then

679
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: when I saw him practicing the next day, and Antonio

680
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: Hamilton told us all during a press conference earlier this

681
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: week about how you know, it was bad news and

682
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: all this stuff, and then Wednesday's kind of walking around

683
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: and then Thursdays kind of bouncing around the locker room

684
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 1: and saying, I feel pretty good. And then and then

685
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: Antonio Hamilton said, as soon as we saw him out

686
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: of practice, he's like, okay, he's playing. He said the

687
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: same thing to Isaiah wh I was talking to Isaiah

688
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: after the game in the locker room that the two

689
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: of them chatting, Buddha told Isaiah, yeah, I'm I'm going

690
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: to play this week, and Isaiah's thinking, you're insane. There's

691
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: there's no way you're going to be able to play

692
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 1: this week, and that he was a warrior, and that's

693
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: the type of player. That's a type of teammate you

694
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: want out on the field. And it's not just motivating

695
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 1: the defense, it's the team as a whole. James Connor

696
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: said that they call Buddha Weapon X Wolverine, and I've

697
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: never seen that movie, but I would imagine that's a

698
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: pretty big compliment. Yeah it is. You guys should start

699
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: calling me that Wolverine. His whole deal is that he heals.

700
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I mean he's got the he's got the

701
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: razor talent. But it's the reason he's got him is

702
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: because he can. Don't ruin the movie for me, I'm

703
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: not going to see it. You can continue. I was

704
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: just going to say, because the knives come out of

705
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: his hands, and and his weapon isn't that he's got

706
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: knives in his hands. It's that they can come in

707
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: and out and break the skin and his in his hands.

708
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: Heal automatically. So I'm intrigued. But even if practice on Friday,

709
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: he was doing the warm ups and the high knees

710
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: and so. But then when they actually went into Russell

711
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: Wilson joke. You know the team, you know, Bronco country

712
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: Ride or whatever, and that's right, but there, but Buddha

713
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 1: was ducking out of the team stuff, Like he wasn't

714
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: you know, he was going north south, He wasn't going

715
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: east west. So I mean, I'm like, come on, there's

716
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: no way he's playing. And of course he did play,

717
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: So there you go. He did play well. There's there's

718
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Now what the aftermath on that is,

719
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: I guess to the Cardinals benefit, they have an extra

720
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: day being Monday night football, So that's all good. But look,

721
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: if Buddha Baker's out there under those circumstances, if you

722
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 1: rewind a month earlier, if a JJ walk and take

723
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: the field three days after having his heart shot back

724
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: into rhythm, you know what that says to everybody who

725
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: suited up, you better bring it all, you better leave

726
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: it on that field. If those two guys, two of

727
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: the best in the game, can he can make that

728
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: sort of sacrifice and that kind of commitment to the

729
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 1: team where it really is we and not me in

730
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: those cases because it's been really easy to bag out

731
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 1: for either guy. That I just think it sets the standard.

732
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: You know, So, are you saying that that Buddha could

733
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: have indirectly impacted the Eno thing? No, No, what I'm

734
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: saying is dimetrically opposite. No, what I'm saying is it's

735
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: so easy to legitimately sit that game out when the

736
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: coach gives you zero percent chance to start the week

737
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: and the docks tell you it's two to four weeks, right,

738
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: so um so anyway, it's uh yeah, it's what it

739
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: says to everybody. And once again it was critical. Now

740
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: was Eno all over the field like he typically was. No,

741
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: he had four tackles, great pick obviously on the tip drill,

742
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: But it wasn't like he wasn't the same you know

743
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 1: the two games before you where he led the team. Yeah,

744
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, the same Buddha. Oh my gosh, the same

745
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: Buddha that I'm trying to remember stats and I'm forgetting

746
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 1: what's I'm looking ahead and I'm forgetting what's in front

747
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: of me. Oh my gosh. That's okays is an ear

748
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: he'd edited that all out, so just bear with me,

749
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: all right. Buddha didn't lead the team and tackles for

750
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: the first time in three games. He wasn't exactly the same.

751
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: But the drop off from Buddha Baker to the next

752
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: best safety on the roster, to me, is the most

753
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: severe of any position group to go from the starter

754
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: to the backup. There's no one even close to a

755
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: Buddha Baker or a Jalen Thompson on this roster when

756
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: it comes to safety, so that it was critical that

757
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: he played. And with all due respect to Chris Banjo,

758
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 1: that's partially because of the how high the bar is

759
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,479
Speaker 1: for Jalen Thompson and Buddha, not necessarily saying something about

760
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: Chris Baker and how important it was to have Buddha

761
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: and Jalen out there without Byron Murphrey, who was out

762
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: with a back injury. I think if you had been

763
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 1: without Byron and Buddha, it could have been very scary.

764
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: I feel that same way about the drop off with us,

765
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: though Paul Yumi is a pretty big drop off from

766
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: us down to Darren. I like it. I like walked

767
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 1: right into that. By the way, you know, it's funny

768
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: you bring up Murphy because I feel like that that

769
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: storyline didn't get touched on at all. I mean, Antonio

770
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 1: Hamilton had a great game and career high ten solo tackles,

771
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: and but like your best cornerback by far wasn't in

772
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: the game and it got buried and you still hold

773
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 1: Cooper cup who did exit the game with an injury

774
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, but up until that point, a

775
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: career low three catches from one yard. Yeah, without without

776
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: your top cornerback, I mean, and then there was de

777
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: Hop working over Jalen Ramsey. Think of the contrast that

778
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,919
Speaker 1: de Hop, according to the Next Gen Stats, had eight

779
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: of his ten catches directly against Jalen Ramsey, whereas the

780
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: Cardinals were minus Byron Murphy and they were still able

781
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 1: to control Cooper Cup obviously, I mean neutralized, nullify Cooper Cup.

782
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: In fact, when he went down with that injury, and

783
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: you could see it from the Cardinals sideline, he's on

784
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: his back and just agony and he's yelling in pain,

785
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, the Rams are having worst week

786
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: than cryptocurrency at this point. I mean, it was it

787
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: was bad. I mean, McVeigh was out of his mind.

788
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: Could you could just It reminded me a lot of

789
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: the state of the team the Cardinals left the Seahawks

790
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 1: in last year in Seattle, where it was a playoff

791
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: elimination game for the Seahawks. Everything was going in the

792
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: rhyd high that twelves are like, oh, yeah, Cardinals have

793
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: Colt McCoy, We're gonna stop these fools. And instead the

794
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: Cardinals came out and took care of the Seahawks. The

795
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: twelves are booing. Pe Carroll's look just looks flabbergasted after

796
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 1: the game, and Sean McVeigh was in that same spot.

797
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 1: He's like, we're done. We are absolutely done. We're three

798
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: and six. Cooper Cup is out for who knows how

799
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: long We're done. And that was the aftermath. I think

800
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: of that Cardinals win. I think that's that's fair. Of

801
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: course they can go home and cry into their gigantic

802
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: Super Bowl rings and yeah that'll ease some pain. Yeah, yeah,

803
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: there's no doubt. So. And then there was my J.

804
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: Sanders man Wolf and Pash called my J. Sanders name

805
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 1: a lot in that game and only played twenty one snaps,

806
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: So that's pretty for real, only twenty one snaps. I

807
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 1: mean he had a heck of a line. Yeah, I

808
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: did in that game. If I can find it on

809
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: the fly here and not call himino here it is

810
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: five tackles, a sack, quarterback, hit, tackle for loss, pass defense,

811
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: and a force fumble and what should have been the

812
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: force fumble that resulted in the fumble return for touchdown,

813
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: which is why J. J. Watt was particular. He was

814
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: salty to begin JJ. Watt was angry all week. He

815
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: was angry on that Friday, as I found out the

816
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: hard way at his locker with an ill time question.

817
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: And then I don't know if it was ill timed.

818
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: You asked it exactly when you were supposed to when

819
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: he was meeting with the media, So I'm just saying

820
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: it was. Yeah. Anyway, I got text I got by

821
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: the way. I got text messages as I should have,

822
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: from the likes of a Richard Signs and a cam

823
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: Cox at the local TV station station saying hey, thanks

824
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: for the SoundBite. I'm like, yeah, send me a dinner

825
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: certificate because I took one for the team to give

826
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: you guys your sound bite of the day. Yeah, you

827
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: did piss him off, he was, Yeah, and he was

828
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: still salty on the game. I mean that's why he

829
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: played so well. He had so much fight because of you.

830
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: Paul's had a pretty good season. Yeah. More more where

831
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: that came from. More angry JJ, angry JJ all week. See.

832
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: I also have this other theory that if its many jerries,

833
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: let's hear this book. When you go into a game

834
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: and hear all about the opposing defense, It's amazing how

835
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 1: many times your defense plays well because you're sick and tired. Well,

836
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: you go into that game and you hear about ninety

837
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: nine and the rams, yeah, and you're like, ninety nine

838
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: of the rams is all the best ever play defense

839
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 1: in the history of the game. And then JJ Watts like, no,

840
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: wait a minute, I have three NFL Defensive Player of

841
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 1: the Year awards and I wear ninety nine. That's pretty fair.

842
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: And I think so Andy was miked up by hard knocks.

843
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: So when he didn't get his moment of glory that

844
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: fumble returned for touchdown, he was cheezed off and for

845
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 1: the Cardinals. So go to the Anti Cardinal's YouTube channel

846
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: to check out that wired. Yeah. So, but back to Sanders,

847
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: I do think what's been impressive is how he has

848
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: improved with the opportunities he has gotten as a rookie.

849
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 1: He was inactive for at least I think the first

850
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: four games of the season, and as a rookie, this

851
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: is the time of year when you're getting those consistent

852
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: reps where you want to start seeing improvement, and that's

853
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: what we're seeing from him, and that again is without

854
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: having played in every game this year, and it's been

855
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: great to see those sparks from him, especially because we

856
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: heard when he was drafted back in April that he

857
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: was more of that raw player. The Cardinals liked him

858
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: because of his natural ability, because of his length, but

859
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: they needed to help him hone in on his skills

860
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: a little more and really fine tune him. And so

861
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: I think a huge shout out has to go not

862
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: only defensive coordinator Vance Joseph, but outside linebackers coach Charlie Bullen,

863
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: who is having to create a pass rush where you

864
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: didn't have Chandler Jones, who I know might not be

865
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: having when you look at the number as a spectacular

866
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: season in Vegas, but was a large role in this defense.

867
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: And so the way that he is having to create

868
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: this pass rush and the way that we have seen

869
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: Sanders improve every week when he's gotten those opportunities has

870
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: been impressive. And I think a lot of that. You know,

871
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: you have to give credit to the coaching staff there

872
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: in this specific situation as well. And I asked him

873
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: after the game, so what do you have to show

874
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: Vans Joseph and the coaches. He said, consistency, And it

875
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: gets back to the coaches have to trust you, and

876
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: it reminds me a little bit, a little bit of

877
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons rookie year. You could see the measurables obviously

878
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: in the athleticism. You could see the upside. You could

879
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: see his ability and make the splash play. But was

880
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: he going to kill you the other eighty percent of

881
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: the snaps? Was he going to be a liability and

882
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: allowed just as many big plays as he makes? And

883
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 1: so I think it's safe to say my j Sanders

884
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: has had to show the coaches and you know what

885
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: is twenty one snaps A number of those plays he

886
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: made against the run. Yeh, tackle for loss. He was

887
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: in there calling his name. I mean five tackles on

888
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: twenty one snaps from the edge. It's pretty impressive. No,

889
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: it's very impressive. Although the twenty one snaps also kind

890
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: of indicates, Okay, at this point he's still got a

891
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: limited trust window. Otherwise he'd be playing more probably given

892
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 1: his youth and energy and size. I mean he really does.

893
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: Why you walk past him in the locker room, I

894
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 1: mean he he just if you drew up an edge rusher,

895
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: that's what it would look like. I'm really curious see too,

896
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: what sort of a muscle masks they put on on

897
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: him in the off season, like if he's he's a

898
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: guy who could really benefit. So like a Zach Allen

899
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: had to rework and Zach Allen Michael Dogby. Yeah, that

900
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: kind of thing. When they were doing hot Yoga North

901
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: Scottsdale in the middle of May, when you that was

902
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: what they told me. That's what they told me. It was.

903
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 1: My classes are on Saturday mornings, daring the hot Yoga.

904
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: I wasn't there. I wasn't there on the hot Yoga.

905
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: It's a great workout, Danny tell us give us a

906
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: quick thumbnail on hot yoga for those who are we're wondering.

907
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,959
Speaker 1: I mean, like, you know, how hot is it in there?

908
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: And what's the deal hot? It's very humid. You are

909
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: like drenched in sweat within the first three minutes of class. Seriously,

910
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: you have to it did depends for it. Yeah, typically

911
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: an hour, maybe forty five minutes. Usually an hour. Like

912
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: whenever I do things like that, I have a yoga

913
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 1: at which I would use for really any workout class.

914
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: You have to bring like extra towels because you are

915
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: slipping all over your yoga mat because the sweat is

916
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 1: just a lot. As you can see but but clearly

917
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: doesn't like that kind of stuff, the germs and the sweat. No,

918
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: it's your own yoga, mat, I mean it's my germs.

919
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: How close and proximity are the other people in the

920
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 1: class that you don't know? If it's a big enough

921
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: room or there aren't too many people you can like

922
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 1: spread out to where you're not like touching them. Paul's

923
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: one of those guys. It's like you're surprised he does

924
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: this for a living and yet he really doesn't like

925
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: people he likes. That's a pretty serious charge right there.

926
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: Do you like us? My goodness, I don't like people's

927
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 1: You know, he's not answered my question. Okay, Paul, I'm

928
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: looking at what else we have to cover here? Sure

929
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: before either ay I take another facial or b I

930
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: start calling random people. You know. So I'm just trying

931
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: to save myself from myself. Anybody have anything to say

932
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: about this possible storyline, I mean, don't bury the lead.

933
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: We had to come back to it because you know,

934
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: the Hard Knocks directors will come back to this whole

935
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: quarterback question. Yeah, that's true. I won't call it a controversy,

936
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: but I will call it a quarterback question. What happens

937
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: if Colt McCoy does in the Niners what he did

938
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 1: last year to the Niners. So you're just assuming he's

939
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: playing this week, he's starting. I'm just I'm saying, what

940
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: if he's playing, and what if he does to the

941
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers what he already did last season? Wasn't

942
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: that the game where on Monday Night football? By the way,

943
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: wasn't that the forty nine Ers game where it was

944
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: where Eno Benjamin won the angry run center that amazing Yeah,

945
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: when he trucks day at the second level and by

946
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: the way, cold at the Niners last year, twenty two

947
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: or twenty six for two forty nine a touchdown note

948
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: picks passer rating a one nineteen point four. He got

949
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: sacked a couple of times. So so you're you're, you're,

950
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna just say, I'm just asking the question, Darren,

951
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: but no, I'm gonna put you on this, You're because

952
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: the implication is if Colt plays this week and does well,

953
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: then he just stays as a starter until what who No,

954
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 1: I'm basing it on what we have yet to see

955
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 1: from Kyler Murray. Have we seen him at any point,

956
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: show any burst. I know it's the open portion of practice.

957
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna so we're saying he still hurts. Yes,

958
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying Kyler still Look, I'm not saying I'm not

959
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: saying this because there's no scenario where they're both healthy

960
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: and Kyler is okay. Starter. That's I think that we

961
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: need to get that out of the way. Well, because

962
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 1: you're saying if he goes out and wins, what happens,

963
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, is he is Kyler healthy the

964
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 1: next week? Because there is no scenario. If you want

965
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,479
Speaker 1: to say, what have I seen with Kyler Murray, I've

966
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: seen what his contract says. That means he's going to,

967
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 1: if healthy, play every game, start every game over thirty

968
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: six year old journeyman quarterback. All due respect to Colt McCoy,

969
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: who played awesome this weekend and could play awesome again

970
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 1: Monday night. If he has to play if he's healthy,

971
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: if he's not, that's not what's going to happen. It

972
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:16,240
Speaker 1: makes no sense to me none. Once again, I should

973
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: be more specific when I say what happens. I'm talking

974
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: about with the fan base, well, I'm talking about with

975
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: the noise out there. I'm talking with the outside pressure

976
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: that will make for the juicy storyline that will make

977
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: for all the drama, there will be hard knocks. This

978
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 1: to me sounds and I know that this is not

979
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: a great example for me personally to use, but it

980
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: sounds like the argument that people were having when Dak

981
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: Presto was hurt and Cooper Rush went in and was

982
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,280
Speaker 1: playing yes. And that's how I feel with Colt McCoy

983
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 1: and Kyler Murray. And that's not to take away from

984
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: what coult is capable of and what he has done.

985
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: These are not the same quarterbacks. Kyler Murray's your franchise quarterback.

986
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 1: This is the player you are building your offense around

987
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: because of his unique skill set. I know he hasn't

988
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: been as accurate as of late, but he still can

989
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: use his legs and so if he's healthy, that completely

990
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: changes the game. That completely changes the way defenses are

991
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,720
Speaker 1: having to game plan against you. I don't I agree

992
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: with you. I don't think there is any scenario where

993
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: if McCoy and Murray are both healthy, you're playing over Kyler. Okay,

994
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: let me throw out this scenario. Let's stop the cuff.

995
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: They're both healthy, they're both dressed for the Money Night

996
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: game in Mexico City, and the Cardinals struggle on offense

997
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: in the first half, and they give him the first

998
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: possession of the second half and they go three and out.

999
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: It looks a lot like what it looked like earlier

1000
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: minus Colt McCoy. So now Colts sitting on the sideline

1001
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: and everybody's looking at him and wondering if you're going

1002
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: to check in number twelve to at least get you

1003
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 1: out of this game and get you a win and

1004
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: keep you playoff eligible and viable. I don't know how

1005
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: how can I say this kindly? That is so delicate.

1006
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: I don't know how you do that to Kyler Murray

1007
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: and he takes it in an understandable you don't. I

1008
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,919
Speaker 1: think you guys are understanding what I'm saying without saying

1009
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: that is, I don't know how you do that to

1010
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: your starting quarterback. Yes, and you expect him to come

1011
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: back and have this great gung ho attitude and to

1012
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: lead this team. I think that is that would be

1013
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: very detrimental long term if that was what they did.

1014
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: And let let me make something very clear, because there

1015
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: are a lot of people that don't like Kyler out there.

1016
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: I understand it because I hear from them all the time.

1017
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: But that is not unique to Kyler Murray. If you

1018
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: did that to Aaron Rodgers, if you did that to

1019
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, they'd all be pissed, and probably rightfully so.

1020
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: And you can argue, I don't care if he's pissed,

1021
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But there's a lot of other stuff

1022
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: that goes into this. Somebody made the point in the

1023
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: mail bag, and you know this, Paul, if you had

1024
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: read it, oh burn that I read it in a

1025
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: I've been accused of writing it, which is true, which

1026
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: I'm not. By the way. I just want to make

1027
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: that known to the offensive lineman before I end up

1028
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: being some sort of crash test dummy in there. In baseball,

1029
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: if you're the star pitcher and you're not doing well,

1030
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: you can get an early hook and nobody says anything.

1031
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you might be mad, but you get the

1032
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: early hook and it is what it is you move on.

1033
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: In football, if you give a guy the hook, that's

1034
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,720
Speaker 1: oftentimes the beginning of the end, whether you're Kyler Murray

1035
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: or a star quarterback or not a star quarterback. Once

1036
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 1: you get the hook, then then all then it's all

1037
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 1: it all goes cast. I mean we've seen that here

1038
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: a million times two thousand and four, when Josh McCown

1039
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: gets benched and then it's Sean King, and then it's

1040
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: John Navarre and then it's Josh McCown or Kevin Cobb

1041
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: and John Skelton or Matt Leonard and Derek Anderson and

1042
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 1: Moxie Max Hall, and I mean for the forty nine

1043
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: ers with Jimmy g and Traylan they got out of

1044
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: it because Trey Lance got hurt. It just gets messy.

1045
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any scenario where you would pull

1046
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and put in Colt McCoy. I don't think

1047
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: you were from that Nope. Okay, I'm just saying that

1048
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: he's just asking the question I told you he was

1049
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: gonna say. I'm just throwing it out there. I'm just

1050
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: saying we'll take it back, saying we don't want it.

1051
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if you're one of the four Hard

1052
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: Knocks directors, and yes there are four, and there's like

1053
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: a crew of eighty working on this whole thing, you're

1054
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: drooling right now. You're anticipating a lot of drama down

1055
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: the stretch. Okay, Paul CALVC football expert, I do know

1056
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: that you are star safety once upon a time. What

1057
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: here we go? This is what Wolf does not He

1058
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: starts the condescending tone and then here it comes the facial.

1059
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 1: I'm curious again, I am on the record. I am.

1060
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,760
Speaker 1: You can't do that. If Kyler Murray's healthy, he plays,

1061
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: and if he's struggling, doesn't matter. You leave him out there.

1062
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying that that's I'm sure there are fans out

1063
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: there going, you're stupid, Darren, Kyler's had all these chances,

1064
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. But I'm saying that's what

1065
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: you do. Now, I'm asking you, what what do you

1066
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 1: do in that scenario? You gotta leave him in for

1067
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: everything you guys just said, No, you do happen to him.

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00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: He's either your franchise future quarterback or he's not. And

1069
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: if you do pull him after a scoreless first half

1070
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: this Monday night, then you're undermining, yes, not only his

1071
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: own confidence, but you're undermining is standing in his own

1072
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: locker room. Yes, and so yeah, you are undercutting your

1073
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: own investment. And let's also make this clear. And I

1074
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: know this frustrates the heck kind of fans sometimes with

1075
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: when we're talking about the coaching GM and in this

1076
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: case we're talking about the quarterback. The money matters. You can't.

1077
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: You don't get to you don't get to say, well,

1078
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: they never should have given him the money. He's not playing.

1079
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: I don't I don't care what he's getting paid. You

1080
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: cannot care what he's getting paid. Fine, but that is

1081
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: part of the equation they would they would go into

1082
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: this team has no chance if you're talking about having

1083
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: a quarterback with that kind of contract and he's not

1084
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: even playing, and you can't you can't move on from him. Right.

1085
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 1: Here's the worst case scenario is that it divides the

1086
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: locker room that half the team thinks that number one

1087
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: should be the quarterback, half the team thinks the backup

1088
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 1: should be the quarterback. To use the forty nine ers

1089
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: is the most recent example. What did they do during

1090
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 1: training camp? Hey, Jimmy g you work off to the side. Yeah,

1091
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 1: you're not even gonna be a full You're not even

1092
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: a full member this team, much less a full participant

1093
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: in practice. You're just gonna sit over there. And most

1094
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: of the time it was after Niners practice, he would

1095
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: come out and throw and just kind of loosen up

1096
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: his arm. Of course, he was coming off injury and

1097
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 1: the whole thing. Okay, we get it, But it wasn't

1098
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: until they a were forced to keep him because there

1099
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 1: was no trade market and then be forced to play

1100
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: him that he was even acknowledged as a real full

1101
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: time member of the team. I don't want to take

1102
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 1: away that. You know, the offense played well, well enough

1103
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: to be a struggling Rams team. You can be grateful

1104
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 1: for the performance from Colt McCoy, from the offensive lineman

1105
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: for all of those reasons without saying that the only

1106
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: reason they won was because of the backups and we

1107
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: would have lost if we had the offensive lineman, a

1108
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: full healthy offensive line with starters and Kyler Murray. I

1109
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 1: don't know why it has to be either or that

1110
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: we won this game without Kyler Murray, which means he's

1111
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: not that good. We don't need him to win, Like,

1112
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: let's just roll with Cole. I don't understand why that

1113
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: has to be the thought property because there's there's already

1114
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: there's a segment of the fan base and you know

1115
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 1: who you are, that already doesn't like Kyler Murray in

1116
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: wishes he wasn't the quarterback. You don't have to like

1117
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 1: him if he can still lead your team to victory.

1118
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, I know, we got to wrap this up,

1119
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna just find my last thing on this

1120
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,399
Speaker 1: is I'm not only saying you would have to play

1121
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 1: him in that circumstances. I'm saying you should be playing

1122
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: him in this. Kyler Murray is a two time Pro

1123
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: Bowl quarterback whose upside continues to be pretty high. The

1124
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 1: idea that you wouldn't play him in this circumstance is

1125
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: mind blow. It's dumb, That's what it is. Dumb. It's dumb. Well,

1126
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: the first half of last season he was legitimate NFL

1127
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: MP candidates, but that seems like a long time ago.

1128
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 1: It really not playing at well, he's not playing to

1129
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: his capabilities. But still, and again, there are plenty of

1130
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: examples literally through NFL history. I go back to when

1131
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: I was pretty much Danny's age in this business and

1132
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: in forty nine er Land, which is where I grew up.

1133
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: It was obviously Steve Young against Joe Montana. It divided

1134
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: our own family. My dad was pro Joe Montana and

1135
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: we were pro Steve Young, and all of a sudden,

1136
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: the old man and his kids were it odds at

1137
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: the dinner table. I mean, it was divisive. Is that

1138
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: why I haven't talked to him in all these years?

1139
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: And then I went out for my first real gig

1140
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: covering an NFL team and it was the Wayne Fons

1141
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: here where they had three different starting quarterbacks in Rodney,

1142
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: Pete Scott, Mitchell andre Ware and I almost said Eric

1143
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: Kipple was Eric Kramer Kramer. And from week to week

1144
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: we'd show up in the money press conference and literally

1145
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: guys are wagering in the press room, Okay, who's a

1146
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: going to be this week? And Wayne Fons would just

1147
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: choose a starting quarterback for that week, and it just

1148
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: destroyed that season from the inside out. And there were

1149
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: three you know what they say, three quarterbacks gotten exactly.

1150
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: So all right, Mexico City. Anybody got a word on

1151
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: the trip to Mexico City? What's uh? I've got an

1152
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: interview with Rolando kind too. I gotta get too. I

1153
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: can tell you that. All right, nice, Sorry, We're gonna

1154
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: have some fun, okay, all right, there some fiestas and cistus,

1155
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: so we'll have plenty to say here. On top of that,

1156
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: we'll find out Spanish in high school and college. Maybe

1157
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 1: the Cardinals will say Ostila Vista to the forty nine Ers.

1158
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: By the way, you realize the Cardinals have beaten the

1159
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers eleven of the last fourteen meetings, including

1160
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: in Mexicos will not eleven or fourteen, but they beat

1161
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: them in Mexico City back in two thousand and five.

1162
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: It doesn't go back. We were there. I was in

1163
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: elementary school. I'm I'm predicting. I'm predicting a seventy yard

1164
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: field goal, and this one Neil Rackers wanted one in

1165
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: two thousand and five. You watch, it's gonna happen. Elevation

1166
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: greater than the flagstaff, the ball flies forever in Mexico City.

1167
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Speaker 1: There you go. That'll do it for this edition to

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