WEBVTT - Hangin' with the 'Boys: Where There’s a Will … 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:07.760 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:19.079 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Flow way out of 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:25.079 the backfields, flooding down the sidelines. He's hanging with the Boys, 0:00:25.079 --> 0:00:29.120 broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:34.239 in Frisco. Now your host, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:38.880 Shannon Gross. We are back most of us, at least 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:43.040 Shannon Gross, our illustrious leader, is lounging and frolicking on 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:49.080 the beaches of Mexico this week. This is Kurt Daniels 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:52.560 filling in for him. I got our man, Nate dun Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:56.000 Let's be right to last episode. You did watch it. 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:59.960 Let's get right to our special guest here, the man. 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:05.120 Yes here, we are lucky to have Will McClay. Thank you, 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:07.920 Will for cool coming on, guys, the leader of our 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:13.000 very much impressive, much talked about scoutary department. You guys 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:14.920 have been on a great run of luck here. I 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:17.800 guess not luck, but a great run of us. It's 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:21.959 luck involved in it too. You know what's amazing is 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:26.440 I gotta get this out of the way. Uh, And 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:31.160 it's more about him and before we saw about anything. 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:34.720 Tell us how important zekiels to this team? The running 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:38.560 back Ezekiel? Are you just gonna go right there? I mean, 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:42.920 he's extremely important because of our identity on offense is physical, 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:45.319 our identity on defense is physical, and you got to 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:48.080 have people that are physical if that's gonna be what 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:50.360 you're all about, right, not only be physical, but be 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:55.080 a different player in all three downs. Um, he's extremely 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:57.400 important to what we do. Going back to you know, 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:00.080 the Emmets and how the Cowboys were built. Yeah, and 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:04.000 nobody's denying that. Okay, Okay, now let's move all. We 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:07.120 really brought mister mcclear here to talk about this this 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:12.079 last draft, who these players are, who he think they 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:15.160 could be. And then we'll move from that to many 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:17.480 camps to this because we already had a rookie camp. 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:20.560 So you start anywhere you want on any of these 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:22.880 players and just give us a little tit bit of 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:25.240 what you feel good about them. I think if you 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:27.920 just go down, you know, the first one without the 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:30.239 first round pick is of Maria Cooper. They're not a 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:33.400 first round pick. And now continue to say that because 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:35.280 when you look at the draft, you have to consider 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:38.000 that we had to consider it when making the move. 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:40.119 You know, that's an asset, and you know you talk 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:42.360 start talking about cap and all those other things. But 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:45.480 a difference making player. I think we got that in 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:47.720 the first round pick. And then when you go with Tristan, 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:51.440 it's adding depth and quality, depth and competition to the 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:55.240 defensive line. He is a three technique over three hundred pounds, 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:57.880 with quickness, with length and the play temperament to fit 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:02.480 our style, you know, Conor mc govern keep our strength strong, Yes, sir, 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:05.160 he was there. He was available for us, and when 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:08.079 you're looking at it, you never know what tomorrow brings. 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:10.760 We learned that from what we went through with Travis 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:13.160 and trying to keep that offensive line strong so that 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:15.760 Zeke can be Zeke and Dak can be Dak and 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:17.520 a Maria can be a mar I think we have 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:20.799 to our approaches to get the front line right. So 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:23.800 we did that, and then we went with Tony Pollard 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:26.440 in the fourth round. A back that can do a 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:34.320 lot of things. You're doing something wrong, duh, I don't go. 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:36.680 But a guy that can do a lot of things. 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:39.119 He can run the ball inside. We feel like he 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:42.080 came in and he was you know, he's two hundred 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:45.600 and nine two hundred and twelve pounds. Um can run inside, outside, 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:47.880 play on special teams, and do all those things and 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:50.680 has the energy. And when he came in and rookie Minicamp, 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:53.080 he's one of those guys that it just felt like 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:55.440 belonged in his presence when he came in there. And 0:03:55.440 --> 0:04:00.320 then you had the Jackson two we didn't get, you know, Tito, 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:04.440 and we got Joe and Michael, both players that played 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:06.720 in the ACC that have something to contribute to us. 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:10.000 I think Mike has the length and the ability that 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:13.600 coach Richard has had, you know, he's had great success with. 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:17.039 And then Joe. When Rod went to go work out Joe, 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:20.039 he came back saying, that guy has the right type 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:23.520 of mentality. So when you bring that in, and then 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:26.359 let's see who else we had. We had Joe, Mike 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:31.080 to run down him, Draft Befause, Big Doll, Donovan Wilson 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:36.719 in there, weber Len jils with with Donovan, we went 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:38.520 into the deal. People were talking about we needed a 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:41.320 safety where we took care of things in free agency 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:43.960 to shore us up there. We feel good about our safeties. 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:46.200 I know we won eleven twelve games with the guys 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:48.000 that we had last year, but we always want to 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:50.640 improve that. So we signed George I. Local. We got 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:53.520 guys coming back from last year. And then we saw 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:55.880 Donovan Wilson and part of the defenses. You got to 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:57.720 have a temperament. When you watch tape on him, he's 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:00.440 got a temperament to play the right way. That's number 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:03.919 thirty seven. Uh. He was for for a and m 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:10.320 he remember him in a little slot. Were the rookies 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:12.400 well with the rookies because we didn't have numbers. It's 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:15.279 the ability to cover. He's gonna you know, he's played 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:18.000 some in the slot, he's played some corner, he's played safety. 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:20.960 We're expecting him to be competing for a safety spot. 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:23.840 But the more you can do in this NFL gives 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:27.680 you more more variables. Uh. And then Mike Webber was 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:30.320 another back. What we wanted to go into the draft 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:33.400 was strengthening the running back room. Uh. He has some 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:36.120 Zeke type traits. He runs well in our system. He 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:38.400 thinks if we think he fits that way. And then 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:41.520 Jalen Jelks is a guy that um again just to me, 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:44.280 he was a guy on tape from the Senior Bowl 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:46.880 and everything else. He played all over the place. There 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:50.719 were some ear markings of when we watched uh DeMarcus 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:52.760 Lawrence when we drafted him. He was in that defense. 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:55.200 He was playing a four eye, he had to create pressure, 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:57.919 lined up against the guard, all those things, and he 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:01.200 played extremely hard and was produced. And I think he's 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:03.560 got the temperament that if you got to have the 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:06.080 right temperament to get right around Rode because he's gonna 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:07.440 get it out of you. And I think that Jalen 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:10.600 has that. I'm actually more impressive what you guys did 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:13.880 in the undrafted guys. And how does that work? Is 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:16.320 it just everybody starts hitting the phones with the connections 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:18.120 they've made. I mean, how how are you able to 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:26.000 We went out microphone check one too on. Maybe his 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:29.440 headphones are malfunctioning. We went out and it's all of us, 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:32.520 So we went out. He'd tell us, when we can 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:37.480 hear you? We back? Are we back? 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But back to the question, Will, 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:39.800 Like I said, I'm just impressed with how you were 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:42.720 able to work that undrafted scene afterwards and is it 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:45.920 just guys getting on the phones with people they know contexts? 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:47.760 How are you able to bring in this talent? Yeah, well, 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:50.719 I'll tell you what. We had a different process this year. 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:54.360 We looked at the inefficiencies of last year and we 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:56.440 had a number of guys on our board that were there. 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:59.920 So when we started the process, the area guys now 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:02.400 we call them the GM of their Errors or six guys, 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:04.920 and they know all the players and the contacts there 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:08.319 and so they established the relationships with those players We 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:12.520 started calling probably Friday Saturday, just kind of touching base, 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:15.680 checking in with guys, and then it was the work 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:18.640 that the scouts had put into kind of you know, 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:21.120 we we had exposure to a lot of these guys 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:23.719 and we just continued to recruit them. Then we got 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:26.400 the coaches on the phone, We figured out the money 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:27.959 part of it and how we were going to attack it, 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:31.160 and then we hit the ground running early on Saturday 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:32.920 to make sure that we kind of stayed on top 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:34.439 of it and stayed on top of guys, and then 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:38.480 it was coaches and scouts selling the opportunity with the 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:42.240 Cowboys and our success record with free agents is it 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:44.920 become a situation where you know, already you got a 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:47.400 pretty good end with like a Daniel Wise, but maybe 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:49.880 not so much with a Jalen Jokes. So that's a guy, 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:52.200 you know, if we're gonna get and we gotta draft him, Yes, 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:54.560 well there's a possibility. We felt like he was a 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:57.360 good enough player and looking at our numbers as what 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:59.280 we had to fill within the roster and who was 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:01.600 the best player up there and who could we get. 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:03.760 There's a lot of things that go into that, but 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:08.480 it was the relationship that started with Kat talking to Jalen, 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:12.120 Jim Abrams who's now gone, those guys establishing that relationship 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:13.600 with him early on, and we knew the guys that 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:15.559 we felt like we wanted to get. Yeah, it just 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:17.760 amazes me that you can talk Mitch Hyad, who was 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:20.480 an All American clips in the National Champs, to come 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:22.720 to here when you've already got such a loaded offensive line. 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:26.600 But you know the advantage to that is if he 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:33.199 comes in compete well other teams seriously, especally, if he 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:35.840 can hold on to the to the last cut other 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:39.520 teams was hum We know by him not being drafted, 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:43.840 something was missing physically that people probably like, you know, 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:49.800 but he came to the Cowboys who have a good 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:52.680 off his line and when sometime when you get released 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:55.760 from that situation, if he don't make the team, you 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:59.120 know because something was missing, but maybe we can get 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:01.160 it out of him and he makes our team, you 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:04.160 never know, makes our practice squad and somebody will getting 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:06.480 this kid, because I believe when you go to a 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:09.440 good team, a solid team, team that spending a strength 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:12.120 is offensive line play that can't even be nothing but 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:14.040 a plus, no question. I mean That's what we do 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:16.600 is we look at the roster after the draft, after 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:18.560 free agency, all that stuff, and as we go into 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:22.880 training camp, looking at the strength of the teams and saying, okay, shoot, 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:25.920 they got six players already, right, there may be these guys, 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:27.720 so you start studying them a little bit more. And 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:30.440 I think for a player coming into this situation, you 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:31.960 want to learn from the best. You want to be 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:34.479 a part of the best. And if you're a competitor, 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:37.440 And that's the thing that really drove me about Mitch's 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:39.280 with all those things that we're out there, he wanted 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:41.560 to come here in this situation. So it gives us 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:44.040 a little insight into his personal character that he wants 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:49.400 to compete with the best. Now, mister McClay katie did 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:52.520 rookie mining camp last week? How did this? How as 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:54.720 a scout and you've been the leader of these guys, 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:57.840 that directed these guys. What give us the insight of 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:01.199 what you do? Like now OTAs just starting soon to 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:04.600 be a regular mini camp. What do you do? What 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:07.720 do you do well? We're always evaluating our roster. I 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:10.760 think the thing for us is to have a handle 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.040 on what we have in the building. Look, at what 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:15.640 is going on, Where are the strengths and weaknesses everywhere? 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:19.160 You want to follow injuries, and it's just evaluating our 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:22.040 roster every day. Now we get an opportunity to have 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.520 the guys in our building kind of bounce around to 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:27.560 different meeting rooms and see how the players are taking 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:29.679 things in see if they're able to retain, do they 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:32.280 take notes or they're serious about it. Get a good 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:35.160 opportunity to look at some kind of off the field 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:39.240 characteristics of the players. How well he learns, how hungry 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:41.160 he is, is he willing to do the extra stuff. 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:43.960 I like to watch the guys in the lunch room. 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:47.000 You know, there's just different opportunities to observe these guys 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:49.880 now that they're in our building. What we do is 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:53.280 and scouting is, especially the college side. We talk to 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:56.319 people about people and then we formulate our opinion on people. 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:58.360 We still don't know him, so when we get him 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:01.199 in our building, it's trying to learn these guys. What 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:05.600 the bad If there's a bad side of having such 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:08.199 a great draft class like twenty sixteen is now you 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:10.559 got to pay all these guys. How much is your 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:14.320 department involved with that aspect of it? Deciding you know, 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:16.679 who stays, who goes, who gets paid wood, that kind 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:19.240 of thing. I think we evaluate the players on an 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:22.520 even plane to know where we're strong and where we're weak, 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:24.599 where the good players are, and kind of have a 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:28.360 barometer as to, you know, where our guys are compared 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:30.760 to the league and looking at numbers. I'll have a 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:33.200 little bit more conversation in that that's more done up 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:36.760 top with those guys as far as setting the market. 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:39.360 But we look at and we're aware of it. And 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:42.560 the biggest key to me is if you continue to 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:45.640 draft well, if we do good things, then the next 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:47.480 person's going to come along and then you can make 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:49.800 those business decisions that are right for the club as 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:52.600 opposed to reach in or you know, doing some things 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:55.760 that maybe put you in cat purgatory down the line. 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:58.559 You've had some changes now in the scouting department. A 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:00.760 couple of long times guys been in your West Coast 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:03.520 guy Jeff Jim Abrams, he lived has that. I guess 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:06.120 now it's a good time to make changes, I guess. 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:09.600 But yeah, I think the thing that the Dallas Cowboys 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:12.559 always have had is a group of people, like people 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:14.520 know when you're with the Cowboys, you're a life or 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:17.360 most scouts stay for a long time, and in other 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:21.240 places it's kind of a consistent movie. Gonna mcdonne's yeah yeah, 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:24.080 lost over one hundred years of experience to guys that 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:27.560 know and respect very highly. Um and what they brought 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:30.280 into the organization. Now, it's our job as a scouting 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:33.040 department they've moved on, is to find the young guys 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:34.960 and build them up our way and continue to grow 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:39.080 our scouting staff. Wow, let me say this, You've got 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:41.400 this a busy year, this time of the year. I 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:44.000 know it's always be, but this time, YE know greatly. 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:49.280 How's how's the family? How's everybody good? Good? Twelve or 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:53.440 my son's twelve thirteen? Getting ready to play seventh grade football? Right, 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:57.680 all that stuff, So everybody's good and blessed to you know, 0:14:57.840 --> 0:14:59.560 be where we are and continue to do what we do. 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:01.760 Catch your breath a little now, A little bit, a 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:03.760 little bit, y'all were talking about Game of Thrones in 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:06.960 the um during the draft meetings. Everybody was giving me 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:09.360 a hard time because I called it dungeons and dragons, Right, 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:12.800 I wouldn't watch that stuff. Well. After the draft, I 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:15.120 needed to do something to get away. So I started 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:18.640 watching Game of Thrones. Yeah, yeah, I got sucked in. 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:21.560 I got I got sucked in so much last night. No, 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:24.440 I got sucked in so much. I'm on season eight, 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:28.200 number four. Okay, I'm not gonna say that from the draft. So, yeah, 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:31.160 you've watched the seasons since. I might have skipped a 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:34.400 season because with all the names and the people, I 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:39.840 get lost. Yeah, but the WhiteWalls it sub Yeah, he 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:41.720 doesn't watch it, but he knows everything that goes on. 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:45.880 You don't watch it. He claims he doesn't watch it. 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:50.000 I'm not gonna say. Okay, but wife watches and he's 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:55.760 on the couch. Yeah exactly. But became thank you. 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Yeah, so man, what I love him? Man? 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:01.800 What to get him on here sometime and just talk 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:05.280 like he's got an interesting background, you know, yeah, yeah, 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:08.480 arena league. You know, I wanted to find out sometimes 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:11.560 like if he was looked down upon or something because 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:13.200 he wasn't an NFL guy, you know, if he was 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:15.680 coming from the arena side and everything. See, and that's 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:18.399 the thing that you have to respect about the Jones is, 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:22.440 mister Jones and his family is if they think you 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:25.560 got something to offer to the Dallas Cowboys and impact 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:27.879 in a positive way, they're gonna they're gonna step out 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:30.359 and give you that opportunity. Man. Yeah, I mean they 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:32.160 gonna give it. It ain't gonna be a year. They're 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:34.680 gonna give you two or three years to show what 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:36.720 you can do. Yeah, And he had a lot of 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:39.600 success with the Dallas Desperado to Coach of the Year 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:41.480 one year, had to be playoffs three or four times. 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:43.800 So one of these days we gotta get him on 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:46.240 and learn a bit, a little bit more. Yeah, just 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:50.399 the life of Will because he got a big, long title. 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:52.520 I hated asking with you. He got a big it's 0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:55.680 like director, a player personnel or something. I'm not even 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:58.720 scouting directed this down. I'm like, man, he's the head 0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:02.600 man though. Yeah. So you ota start tomorrow, open to 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:05.920 the media on Wednesday. You're gonna check Wednesday. Man, what 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:08.560 I'll do? Man, I want to get men you can 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:11.920 get together, you know, and kind of just throw some 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:14.040 things around because you know, I won't be going to 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:16.840 training camp this year so far, I don't think I'm 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:19.560 going either. So they're talking about we may do the 0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:21.360 show here, That's what I'm saying. And so we bring 0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:25.760 in Shannon and then they, uh, Derek is working dealing. 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:33.880 Thank you boy. Anyway, Uh that word that he used 0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:36.159 and get me some taking him. I like you like 0:20:36.320 --> 0:20:41.800 that dog? You like that? I did? Yeah, lead lead, 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:45.200 Yeah it's gonna be we'll see. We're still trying to 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:48.160 work out the plans for training camp. Man. I'm telling 0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:51.240 you what what they have done this year, and I 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:54.600 knew this was gonna happen, is they have trimmed off 0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:57.040 the fat not and what I like large that I'm 0:20:57.040 --> 0:21:02.240 gonna hunkle fat me so so I like. Uh but 0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:04.239 and I told a lot of people They're like, man, 0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:06.760