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Speaker 1: the newest episode of The Giants Little Podcast. John Smoke

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Speaker 1: Solomon Wilcots. But first, I don't remind you that The

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Speaker 1: NFL Player. He is Solomon wilcot Sali, longtime, no speak man.

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Speaker 1: Good to hear from you. How are you smell? Always

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Speaker 1: great to hear from you and great to be on

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Speaker 1: with you today. I'm doing great man, I'm holding up

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Speaker 1: okay during this global pandemic. And uh, I hope you're

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Speaker 1: being safe as well. Absolutely, happy new year. Here's to

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Speaker 1: a better year ahead. Uh let's start here overall, big

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Speaker 1: pictured Giants here. They've lost three in a row. Sally

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Speaker 1: heading into the final week against Dallas what do you

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Speaker 1: think they really need to start doing better if they

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Speaker 1: want to win this game and at least give themselves

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Speaker 1: a fighting chance heading into that Sunday night game between

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Speaker 1: Philly and Washington. Well, I think for the Giants, who's clear,

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Speaker 1: it starts with their ability to protect their quarterback and

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Speaker 1: get back to running the football, like what you saw

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Speaker 1: when they were you know, on that four game win streak,

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Speaker 1: they were really doing a good job of running the ball.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you ever told me they could run

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Speaker 1: the ball without say Kwan barking out, it did no.

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Speaker 1: But you know, with with with Gallman, I mean, they

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Speaker 1: that they were protecting the quarterback better and as a result,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones was doing a better job for protecting the football.

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Speaker 1: And that's time they go out to Seattle and beat them.

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Speaker 1: They ran the ball down Seattle's throat and they protected

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Speaker 1: the ball, didn't turn it over. I think the defense

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Speaker 1: all year has been consistently good and getting better, but

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Speaker 1: hard to win games, No, it absolutely does. Insalidly, I

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Speaker 1: the team has gotten behind early and they've been unable

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Speaker 1: to stick with that run game. You mentioned the past protection.

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Speaker 1: They didn't give up a single sack to Arizona or

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Speaker 1: those two games. And I think fans overlook sometimes and

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Speaker 1: I know you can speak to this obviously, having played

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Speaker 1: once the defense knows you have to throw the ball

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Speaker 1: It makes it a lot easier to put pressure on

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Speaker 1: warts of the Shyants offensive line come out, when they

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Speaker 1: forty Niners had over two hundred yards rushing your kids

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Speaker 1: And that's something that Giants didn't get to do in

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Speaker 1: you need most. Solilet's over to the defense. What have

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Speaker 1: you liked about the way Patrick Graham has coached up

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Speaker 1: He represents, you know, some of the positive things about

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Speaker 1: The Giant has built something quietly. It's really about what

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Speaker 1: But this is a far pride better than what we

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Speaker 1: to hold up. So I know they've had some misuses.

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Speaker 1: They fired one offensive line coach, you know, elevated another

431
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Speaker 1: and these problems still exist us because that's the technique

432
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Speaker 1: that's inherent. So who he's always been and now it's

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Speaker 1: gonna have to be addressed during the off season. Can't

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Speaker 1: fix it so early. But I don't know that your

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Speaker 1: point that Jason Garrett said, well, he's the problem. I

436
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Speaker 1: mean he's dealing with a lot of moving park. You

437
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Speaker 1: lose a Kwon Barkley and the way that he's leveraged

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Speaker 1: and trying to just lock down this offensive line. Let's

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Speaker 1: get the running of ball and use Wayne Goldman. I

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Speaker 1: think there's been some great moments in how they use

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Speaker 1: Goldman and Alfred Moors could be able to use the

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Speaker 1: run game. No one can tell me that game planning

443
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Speaker 1: didn't help them win when they went out and played

444
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Speaker 1: Seattle and beat Russell Wilson. So you know, you gotta

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Speaker 1: think the good with the bad. But give this some

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Speaker 1: time because there's still some missing pieces on this offense. Uh.

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Speaker 1: They gotta get better in personnel, and then let's let's

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Speaker 1: judge Jason. I think he's done a good job. I

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Speaker 1: think he's made the quarterback better. Also, yeah, I agree,

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Speaker 1: and I think Jones is getting rid of the ball

451
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Speaker 1: quicker Sally, he's making fewer mistakes. I think all the

452
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Speaker 1: things are are certainly check marks in his column. And

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Speaker 1: I think the Giants, and this is another thing that

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Speaker 1: I think people that look at the wrong numbers don't get.

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Speaker 1: I think once the Giants started owing four, so Joe

456
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Speaker 1: Judge kind of figured out his formula for winning, right.

457
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Speaker 1: He goes, all right, look, our strength is our defense.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna play a fairly conservative offense. We're gonna try

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Speaker 1: to protect the football, and we're gonna try to let

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Speaker 1: our defense win some games for us. And they thought

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Speaker 1: that was their best way to victory here. So it's

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Speaker 1: weird to say it this way, but they're almost choosing

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Speaker 1: not to be an explosive offense so they can avoid

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Speaker 1: those negative plays, those turnovers, to allow their defense to

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Speaker 1: go out there and win some of these games. You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, No, you have. It's called complimentary football.

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Speaker 1: You hear that term now being used a lot. What

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Speaker 1: that is saying is that we're going to allow the defense.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna leverage our defense in these games. We're not

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Speaker 1: gonna just be wide open with the bond, throwing it

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Speaker 1: all over the place, trying to be explosive because it's

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Speaker 1: kind of like baseball. You use the analogy. When you

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Speaker 1: swing it for the fenses, you can't strike out more, right,

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Speaker 1: But if you're willing to laid out a blood or

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Speaker 1: try to get to first space and get a single,

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Speaker 1: your your batting average goes up. It's the same as football.

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Speaker 1: The more you swing for the fenses, the more three

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Speaker 1: and ounce you're gonna have. Well with this team, the

479
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Speaker 1: style of play and the defense you have, you try

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Speaker 1: to convert. Try to just try to be conservative on often,

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Speaker 1: stay on the field knowing that your defense is gonna

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Speaker 1: get a turnover and shorten the field for you scoring

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Speaker 1: those opportunities. Try to get as many snaps as you

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Speaker 1: can to keep your defense rested. But you're really working

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Speaker 1: with the defense um as an offensive group, not trying

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Speaker 1: to be explosive or quick or a pimpo, which really

487
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Speaker 1: hurts your deepense. By the way, no one knows that

488
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Speaker 1: better than Jiff Kelly. That's why he got ran out

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Speaker 1: of Billy because because he wasn't playing complimentary ball shmelt.

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Speaker 1: You see, he exposed this defense now absolutely stal I

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Speaker 1: am with you. Two final questions for Simon Wilcotts uh, Sally,

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Speaker 1: I realized this is a Giants podcast, But I am

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Speaker 1: going to ask you about Washington, and only because that

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Speaker 1: game is just as important as the Giants Cowboys game.

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Speaker 1: I know it's tough for recording Thursday morning. We don't

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Speaker 1: know if Alex Smith is gonna play, which obviously has

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Speaker 1: a huge impact on that game. But your thoughts on

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Speaker 1: on Washington Philadelphia Sunday Night football. Yeah, I do think

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Speaker 1: Washington's gonna win the game. And listen that defense, I

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Speaker 1: got there you. I've been impressed with them all season.

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Speaker 1: They literally ruined the season for Carson Wins. Remember Week one,

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Speaker 1: they beat him up exactly make time. Carson Wentz hadn't

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Speaker 1: been the same since and and the Washington two would

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Speaker 1: have locked this thing up if they didn't have to

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Speaker 1: deal with that hiccup, you know, and Dwayne Haskins and

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Speaker 1: what he had flicked upon the team, and they still

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Speaker 1: almost one. So having Alex Smith under center, if they

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Speaker 1: can get him back, I think it makes them good

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Speaker 1: enough to win this game against the Eagle that I

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Speaker 1: see them winning the division. Now if they lose and

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Speaker 1: Giants winning, get in, man, you and I both know

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Speaker 1: that will be probably the best Christmas president of them

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Speaker 1: all right? Absolutely, you know you have a young team

514
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Speaker 1: of a young coach and get him some playoff experience

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Speaker 1: that would be great. I'm assuming you like the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: in the a f C as your favorite. Uh? If not,

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Speaker 1: please please correct me. NFC wise, how do you break

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Speaker 1: this conference down? Sally? Are you a Rogers Packers guy?

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Speaker 1: Do you think Breese can finally make the run with

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Speaker 1: the Saints in in January? Is Russell Wilson gonna turn

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Speaker 1: it on? Uh? Is Tom Brady gonna do what Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady does? I think it's a wide open conference right now,

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Speaker 1: and these playoffs is gonna be really interesting. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: think the Chiefs are it. But the way the Bills

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Speaker 1: are playing right now, they're dangerous. Man. Now there their

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Speaker 1: quarterback is I think he's entered into the elite quarterback level.

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Speaker 1: He's a top tier, number one tier quarterback. Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: is incredible. He moves away, can make all the throws.

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Speaker 1: But on the NFC side, I think it is wide open,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's imperative that the Packers locked down

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Speaker 1: this number want to see and force people would have

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Speaker 1: to go through Lambo. As you know, as temperatures fall.

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Speaker 1: That's for the year old arm. Whether it's a long

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady or or Drew Breed, I'm telling you now

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Speaker 1: that you and not whether the game is played differently

536
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Speaker 1: simper in January than it is in step Tember. Particularly

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Speaker 1: up north. You let the Northeastern blow through there. And

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Speaker 1: tell me if a Dome team is gonna go up

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Speaker 1: there and win. You tell me if if a team

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Speaker 1: from South Florida or Central Florida is going to go

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Speaker 1: up there and win, or some team like the Rams

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Speaker 1: or Seattle is gonna go out there. I just think

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Speaker 1: if they get a bye week and and it's frigid,

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Speaker 1: I think that leverages the pastor's ability to win, because

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Speaker 1: not only do you have to beat Aaron Rodgers in

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Speaker 1: the package, you gotta beat old man Winter. And I'm

547
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Speaker 1: gonna tell you right now, he's a pretty tough opponent.

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Speaker 1: It's tough. That's why many teams haven't done it. And

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Speaker 1: the Giants or what are the last teams to go

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Speaker 1: up there. I still remember Tom Comfley with the basileade

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Speaker 1: on his state man. Not a pretty sight, but they

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Speaker 1: were able to come out of winter. Yeah, they were

553
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Speaker 1: there in two thousand eleven two. But yeah, that that

554
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: that two thousand seven game was the coldest weather I've

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Speaker 1: ever been in. It was one of those deals. And

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Speaker 1: you know the sally being in in the Midwest like

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Speaker 1: you are, when you go outside and within like twenty

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Speaker 1: seconds you feel the moisture in your nostrils crystallized because

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Speaker 1: it freezes. That's what that there was. Oh it sucks.

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Speaker 1: And remember the Giants are an outdoor team. They are

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Speaker 1: cold weather team. So okay, if you name me a

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Speaker 1: cold weather team that's playing in this tournament on the

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Speaker 1: NFP side, then I'll say, okay, they get us shop.

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Speaker 1: But there isn't one there. It's a dome team in

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Speaker 1: the Saint Seattle, Great Northwest. That's not cold. That's just

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Speaker 1: that's a little bit of rain. And then you got

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Speaker 1: the Bucks, the Rams and the Bears aren't gonna be there,

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Speaker 1: and the Cardinals, let me come on, they're not. None

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Speaker 1: of those teams are filled for that. And you can

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Speaker 1: tell me what Brady was used to playing in it

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Speaker 1: and delett, but what about the other guys. I don't

572
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: see that. Tom Brady is gonna have to call Robert

573
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: Kraft see if the bus can practice up at Gillette

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Speaker 1: for a week before their playoff game. I think that

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00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: might help him. I don't know that would help. That

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00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: would help Salid. Let's let's close of this and and

577
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: and and just get back to the Giants very quickly.

578
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: Big picture, Joe judge the talent on the roster, but

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Speaker 1: I guess focus on the coaching and what he's establishing.

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Speaker 1: Do you think this program is heading in the right direction? Yes,

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Speaker 1: because due that the end of the day, when you're

582
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: a head coach, the most important thing is you gotta

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Speaker 1: coach of coaches, right, um, and you've got to have

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Speaker 1: those guys. And clearly he's a take charge guy and

585
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: he got the players to believe in them early. Um.

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Speaker 1: I remember interviewing him for our training Camp show. We

587
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: talked about, you know, forcing guys to run lapsed and

588
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Speaker 1: trying to just instill the discipline and the focus to

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Speaker 1: attention that needed and he want them over. They didn't think, Um,

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Speaker 1: they didn't think anything wrong with that. They understood in

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Speaker 1: order to get this thing turned around, those things are

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Speaker 1: gonna be needed. And he survived it. I mean, he

593
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Speaker 1: was able to get the players to focus in and

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Speaker 1: then they play hard for him. That's what coaching is

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Speaker 1: about it's about motivations, about communication, It's about handling the

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Speaker 1: psychology of players and getting them to want to improve

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Speaker 1: and get better every single day. So they're hanging on

598
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: your every word. They're trusting that you're gonna give them

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00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: the formula for success. And I see a concerted effort

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Speaker 1: between the players and the way that they're playing for

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Speaker 1: Joe Judge Um to say that yes, this can work. Now,

602
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: it's gotta it's got to carry over to a second season.

603
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: He's gotta be able to build it. They got to

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Speaker 1: get their quarterback going next level. But but I I

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Speaker 1: so far, I like what I see absolutely, and hopefully

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Speaker 1: next year we will get to see you at quest

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Speaker 1: and and he's Rutherford for your training camp show, Sally Uh.

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Speaker 1: Tell the folks where they can find your work on

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Speaker 1: serious and with Pro Football focus. Well, absolutely, you can

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Speaker 1: go to my twitter hand though at the elm in

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Speaker 1: wisdom um and also go to PFF dot com and

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00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: read some of the articles that we right there and

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00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: look at some of the work that we do to

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Speaker 1: evaluate players, evaluate teams. We think, you know, help you

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Speaker 1: enjoy the game that much better. We know it's analytics,

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Speaker 1: but guests. What analytics has been around for a very

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Speaker 1: long time. The great Vincelambard to use it. Robert star

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Speaker 1: Back used it us an IBM computers. It would just

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Speaker 1: to enjoy the game that much more. You know, Sally,

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Speaker 1: you know you're a former player. I have a lot

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Speaker 1: the data you guys use at PF because I can't

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Speaker 1: sit there and watch every tape of every game of

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Speaker 1: every team of every player. So I think we need

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Speaker 1: a baseline to judge how do you find them useful

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Speaker 1: what you guys do over a PFF in terms of

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Speaker 1: how you have to do your show every morning on

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Speaker 1: sirius and talk about all thirty two teams when there's

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Speaker 1: no way you can watch the game tape of every

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Speaker 1: single team every week. Yeah, we can use the database

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Speaker 1: to go in and take at the numbers. There the numbers.

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Speaker 1: Think about the numbers um in terms of our database. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you can go to your newspaper and look at the

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Speaker 1: box score, but there are so many things that are

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Speaker 1: left out right but not in our PFF database. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we grade every player on every single play. We have

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Speaker 1: former coaches all around the country and in other parts

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Speaker 1: of like the UK and in Europe who are grading

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Speaker 1: tape and they understand football. They've coached the football and

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Speaker 1: they know what the responsibilities are. And there's nothing. You know,

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Speaker 1: There's nothing that goes on the cutting room floor. And

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Speaker 1: we yeah, we we put everything into the evaluation process.

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Speaker 1: and we call that and label that a turnover worthy play.

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Speaker 1: In other words, the quarterback, his job, his performance on

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Speaker 1: that place should have its eternal but it wasn't because

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Speaker 1: the DV dropped it. At the end of the game.

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Speaker 1: Your guy has three touchdowns and one interception. My guy

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Speaker 1: has four touchdowns. You know, my guy has a better game,

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Speaker 1: not just because he had four touchdowns, but he had

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Speaker 1: no turnover worthy plays. We didn't rely on the deepest

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Speaker 1: his his data, who appear to be positive, So all

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Speaker 1: of those things go into the evaluation. If you've got

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Speaker 1: to sign players in free agency and want to know

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Speaker 1: who's playing well, um, if you gotta draft kids out

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Speaker 1: of college and know who's gonna be better in my system,

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Speaker 1: the database, I'm telling you it unlocks a lot of

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Speaker 1: secrets that do not go into the regular box score

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Speaker 1: to help you evaluate players are there's so much more comprehensive.

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Speaker 1: And you know Chris Collins words, he owns the company,

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Speaker 1: he stands by and he believes in it. You see

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Speaker 1: a lot of our data on the Sunday on Sunday

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Speaker 1: Night Football in America. They do a great job with

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Speaker 1: here now my cool, so we know that it's part

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Speaker 1: of the future. It's here today. We're asking people to

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Speaker 1: embrace it and learn more and enjoy the game at

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Speaker 1: a much higher level. Sally, we appreciate you being so

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Speaker 1: generous with your time. Thanks so much. You can hear

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Speaker 1: Salmon Wilcotts on Serious x M NFL Radio every weekday

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Speaker 1: morning getting you ready for the NFL every week, Sali,

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Speaker 1: stay safe, my friend. Hopefully we'll see us sooner than later.

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Speaker 1: But you're the best. Mail thanks for having me, Take

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Speaker 1: care and Happy New Year to you. Happy New Year

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