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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, December. This is Jaguars Happy Hour and
Speaker 1: now impeached former assistant sanitation director from Trustville, Alabama, Jay Pa,
Speaker 1: get through the Senate though, so I don't know. Welcome
Speaker 1: in Jaguars Happy Hour. I'm J P. Shadrick. He's Jeff Lagoman.
Speaker 1: Tony Boselli you might have heard of him, will be
Speaker 1: in shortly. He is in roots and we've got a
Speaker 1: lot to discuss today on this program. Something happened, yes, something,
Speaker 1: A few things have happened. Yes, Tom Coughlin is no
Speaker 1: longer employed by the Jacksonville Jaguars. Will lead of his duties.
Speaker 1: Will cover all of that. We'll hear from head coach
Speaker 1: Doug Morone. He spoke again today, which is not normally
Speaker 1: doesn't normally speak on Thursdays except on this program, The
Speaker 1: Doug Moron Show, but he did speak with the media
Speaker 1: today after the happenings last evening. We'll get some player
Speaker 1: reaction in the locker room as well, but really it's
Speaker 1: on too Atlanta. That's up next for this team. Everybody
Speaker 1: here knows they have to win football games down the
Speaker 1: last two weeks of the season. Falcons this week and
Speaker 1: the Colts next. What does the future hold? Will discuss
Speaker 1: some of that with Jeff Darlington's ESPN reporter, who had
Speaker 1: some tweets involving the Jaguars the last couple of days.
Speaker 1: That's all coming up on this program. Tom Coughlin, out
Speaker 1: as the executive vice president of football Operations and Jaguars
Speaker 1: owner shot Con put out a statement yesterday and last
Speaker 1: evening in fact when it happened, and said he had
Speaker 1: thought about this earlier in the fall and thought about
Speaker 1: doing it at the end of the season. He reconsidered
Speaker 1: after the recent days events and made the change immediately,
Speaker 1: and he later said that Dave Colwell and Doug Moron
Speaker 1: will each report directly to him on an interim basis.
Speaker 1: His expectations and those of Jacks fans for the final
Speaker 1: two games and season are high. So after everything that
Speaker 1: had happened with the Players Association, it seemed like that
Speaker 1: was the last straw and the final two lines of
Speaker 1: that letter from the p A. It really had a
Speaker 1: damaging effect, I think, and could have had a damaging
Speaker 1: effect on this organization. Oh I don't. I don't think
Speaker 1: there's any doubt. And I think that that was the
Speaker 1: reason why the time frame for letting Tom Coughlan go
Speaker 1: was pushed up, because if you know, because there first
Speaker 1: of all, there were reports out there that that Tom Coughlin,
Speaker 1: you know, and people on different articles wrote this, said, hey,
Speaker 1: why don't we just let him get to the end
Speaker 1: of the season and then he you know, he reports
Speaker 1: are that he was going to retire, resign, whatever, and uh,
Speaker 1: first of all, I don't believe those reports. That's not
Speaker 1: how Tom Coughlin is wired. And I think Shot Khan,
Speaker 1: as the owner of the this organization, after what the
Speaker 1: NFL p A put out, he wanted to be able
Speaker 1: to counteract the the magnitude of their statement, and the
Speaker 1: magnitude of their statement was it was a It was
Speaker 1: letting every player in the National Football League know that
Speaker 1: Jacksonville is not an attractive place. And so if as
Speaker 1: an owner, shot concert back and did nothing, then if
Speaker 1: that story still goes on and it still reverberates around
Speaker 1: the National Football League, by acting and terminating the employment
Speaker 1: of Tom Coughlin, it's a response to that, letting players
Speaker 1: know I think around the league that hey, look, that's
Speaker 1: not how we're gonna do business. That's not how we
Speaker 1: want to do business. We want to be an attractive
Speaker 1: place for you as players and uh. And I think
Speaker 1: that that's why the time frame of it change. That's
Speaker 1: why he moved it up, because if you don't move
Speaker 1: it up, then you're not responding to such a strong
Speaker 1: statement by the union. And I've never seen a strong
Speaker 1: statement like that. You've been at it for a lot
Speaker 1: longer than I. You're looking not been a part of
Speaker 1: the union for many years. I was an executive committee
Speaker 1: vice president of the union for a few years. I mean,
Speaker 1: so as a union, we never did that when I
Speaker 1: was a part of it. I never I've never seen
Speaker 1: the union do anything like that. And I contacted some
Speaker 1: people and I said, you know, give me an idea
Speaker 1: of you know, how many grievances are we talking about
Speaker 1: on an annual basis to where the Jaguars have And
Speaker 1: they're like, look, are you know our legal department. We
Speaker 1: don't want to we don't want to let that out.
Speaker 1: And I think the reason why they didn't want to
Speaker 1: let that out is because they said what they wanted
Speaker 1: to say and they wanted to end it. They didn't
Speaker 1: want to have the conversation to continue and graphs. No,
Speaker 1: they don't want them. They don't want to have a
Speaker 1: conversation with anybody about that. You know, they said what
Speaker 1: they said. But my guess is somewhat educated guests, is
Speaker 1: ballpark of in a year there might be twenty to
Speaker 1: forty grievances in a year maybe, so you mean you
Speaker 1: do the math or you know, so that might be.
Speaker 1: If it's thirty, obviously it's a handful, and if it's forty,
Speaker 1: it can be a lot more than that. But to
Speaker 1: your point, Mr Khan had to make a big move
Speaker 1: in response to that too, because this organization obviously has
Speaker 1: to work with the players Association. That's how this business works.
Speaker 1: They have to moving ahead, be able to compete and
Speaker 1: have players know that this is the place they can
Speaker 1: go work. Well, look, the reality is, and I said this,
Speaker 1: I've talked about this a little bit yesterday. I've been
Speaker 1: in that position before, having to go down and to
Speaker 1: knock on Tom Coughlin's door. You know, I had to
Speaker 1: do it many times in the early years when he
Speaker 1: would try to bends break certain rules that were collectively
Speaker 1: bargained And I don't want people to understand because a
Speaker 1: lot of people think that that these are these are
Speaker 1: union rules. It's not union rules. It is collectively bargained,
Speaker 1: agreed upon rules by the NFL, the Management Council, and
Speaker 1: the union. This is a joint set of rules. It's
Speaker 1: not some set of rules that the NFL p A
Speaker 1: throws out there. It's everybody's playing, everybody's on the same page.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows this is the plane field that we're under.
Speaker 1: This is a set of rules. And and with with Tom,
Speaker 1: I always appreciated the amount of rules that he had
Speaker 1: and always appreciated how he had kind of a zero
Speaker 1: low tolerance policy for everybody to adhere to his rules.
Speaker 1: But there were times when there were fines that were
Speaker 1: were unjustified and we're we're controversial, and I had to
Speaker 1: be don't want to go down there, knock on that
Speaker 1: door and explain to him. And and I said this
Speaker 1: many times for being a rules guy, such a rules
Speaker 1: guy as Tom Coughlin is. And and I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to beat the guy up, because I got a lot
Speaker 1: of respect for Tom, but as much of a of
Speaker 1: a rules guy that he is, and that he has
Speaker 1: a law, a very long set of rules. He did
Speaker 1: it as a as a coach, and then obviously as
Speaker 1: an e v P he still had a set of
Speaker 1: rules that the team was to abide by. But as
Speaker 1: a as a guy, or as a leader, or as
Speaker 1: a coach, or as an e v P that has
Speaker 1: a set of rules that he expects the players to
Speaker 1: abide by, he should understand that there are also rules
Speaker 1: that he needed to abide by that are set forth
Speaker 1: again not by the nfl p A, but by the
Speaker 1: owners and the union that have been collective, collectively bargained.
Speaker 1: And and when I when I saw the statement that
Speaker 1: was put out by the NFL p A, I knew
Speaker 1: that something was gonna happen, and I didn't I didn't
Speaker 1: know the time frame. But I can't let that something
Speaker 1: like that just go. You can't let that slide. Now.
Speaker 1: The question moving ahead is what now? And what now
Speaker 1: is that, at least on an interim basis. According to
Speaker 1: shot Con, Da've called well and Doug Maron report directly
Speaker 1: to him, there was no official statement about beyond this season.
Speaker 1: I think these next two games will tell us a
Speaker 1: lot about some of those answers. The day after the
Speaker 1: season is done. Yeah, I think I think the Doug
Speaker 1: in this press conference day got it right and he
Speaker 1: said that he didn't expect any kind of notification about
Speaker 1: what happens beyond the next two weeks, and and I
Speaker 1: appreciate that perspective from Doug. I will say this too,
Speaker 1: I can't imagine trying to lead this football team as
Speaker 1: as a coach and trying to do it with the
Speaker 1: backdrop of this other stuff that's going on. I think
Speaker 1: that makes it makes the head coaching job that has
Speaker 1: been here incredibly challenging. Incredibly challenging. Wow. I mean, so,
Speaker 1: I think as a coach, you know, you want to
Speaker 1: instill discipline, accountability and everything else. But do you feel
Speaker 1: like sometimes that that maybe you can be over the top,
Speaker 1: because if you've got players that are already getting beat
Speaker 1: up by the fine system and are and are having
Speaker 1: a file grievances and and have this this attitude towards
Speaker 1: the team, and then as a as a coach, you
Speaker 1: almost probably feel like you're piling on if you're trying
Speaker 1: to instill your own discipline and accountability for what what
Speaker 1: your expectations are as a football team A lot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So it's it's almost like, you know, okay, as as parents,
Speaker 1: Let's say you got a set of parents for a kid, okay,
Speaker 1: and mom finds out that you did something wrong, and
Speaker 1: she breaks out the ruler and you get a couple
Speaker 1: of butt s wats. Well, guess what, Dad comes home
Speaker 1: and does he do it again? Is that fair? Like? No, no, whatever,
Speaker 1: That's a terrible comparison. But I'm just kind of having
Speaker 1: fun with it and that that it kind of gets
Speaker 1: to the point where it would feel like dog pilot.
Speaker 1: But I mean, so I give credit to Doug Marone
Speaker 1: for for for handling a lot of the because you know,
Speaker 1: this football team, for the most part, with the exception
Speaker 1: of the jail and Ramsey incident, this has not been
Speaker 1: a football team that has been distracted, that has had
Speaker 1: a lot of side shows, that has had Leonard four
Speaker 1: Nett leaving the sideline to go get into a fight
Speaker 1: like he did last year. Mean, everything has been I
Speaker 1: think for the most for the most part, this year
Speaker 1: has been pretty good. A little that stuff early in
Speaker 1: the season, you know, Kansas City game, injection of Jack,
Speaker 1: but you know, but they're nothing that kind of went
Speaker 1: away after Yeah, and so yeah, I kind of kind
Speaker 1: of and sympathize with with a head coach, having the
Speaker 1: coach in that environment, that's not that can't be easy.
Speaker 1: Let's hear from head coach Doug Morone and his message
Speaker 1: to the team today after what happened yesterday. But I
Speaker 1: want to remind you of one thing. You know, our
Speaker 1: focuses on the Atlanta Falcons. We have to win. There's
Speaker 1: no different, nothing has changed from what I said before.
Speaker 1: You know, we're all fighting, you know, for our jobs,
Speaker 1: for our life. Really, I mean that's what we do
Speaker 1: as coaches. We all know that. That's what The situation
Speaker 1: is no different for the players, you know, they have
Speaker 1: the same thing. So again, you know it's a tough situation. Um,
Speaker 1: but you have to keep your your focus and you
Speaker 1: have to lead and you have to go out there
Speaker 1: and do your job. Hold no punchers there. We have
Speaker 1: to win. It's a pretty strong statement for a football
Speaker 1: team that is going to be up against it the
Speaker 1: next two weeks. Well, and you look, you're you're facing
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons football team. I don't know if they're in
Speaker 1: quite the same situation, but the seat is hot in
Speaker 1: Atlanta for Dan Quinn is the head coach and also
Speaker 1: for the general manager, Thomas Demetro. They played better lately,
Speaker 1: but in general they don't have a great start up all.
Speaker 1: They started out one and seven and there are four
Speaker 1: and six or four and two in their last six games.
Speaker 1: So they've been playing pretty well. And they just got
Speaker 1: done beaten one of the best teams in the NFC
Speaker 1: on the road in San Francisco. And they have all
Speaker 1: pro type weapons on offense. Yeah, they got a couple
Speaker 1: of them. They are pretty good. Parts they're missing some
Speaker 1: parts too. They don't run the ball well. I mean,
Speaker 1: so they have some shortcomings too. But but yeah, they're
Speaker 1: they're playing good football, and I think the one thing
Speaker 1: that concerns me is that if you look at what
Speaker 1: they can do well, they can score forty points on you,
Speaker 1: they can score thirty some lot points on you. And
Speaker 1: the Jaguars offensively, can they keep up with that? I mean,
Speaker 1: they have one of the most dynamic wide receivers in
Speaker 1: football who had a monster game last week and Julio
Speaker 1: Jones and had the game winning touchdown catch. He had
Speaker 1: in the game. He had thirteen catches for there in
Speaker 1: thirty four yards and two touchdowns. He can do everything
Speaker 1: he can run by guys, he can body guys up.
Speaker 1: I think the one category that he hasn't probably been
Speaker 1: phenomenal in as a as a pro is touchdown score.
Speaker 1: But he still has been scoring enough touchdowns more than
Speaker 1: than the Jaguars guys have had. I mean, DJ obviously
Speaker 1: has more. But and then they have a pretty good
Speaker 1: tight end and Austin Hooper. They lost something when Calvin
Speaker 1: Ridley went on injury reserve last week. Matt Ryan has
Speaker 1: seen everything and anything you could throw at him as
Speaker 1: a quarterback. So, uh, they're a good, good football team
Speaker 1: right now. I mean, and you can't argue that. I mean,
Speaker 1: when you win four out of six, you're playing good ball.
Speaker 1: Let's come back. Tony Boselli, standing by prior of the
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Speaker 1: by m c U A M Like I said, like
Speaker 1: nobody's perfect. I think he's learned to communicating better with
Speaker 1: the players. Um just trying to understand us. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a different uh different generation of gods too, you know, so, Um,
Speaker 1: I think he's done, he's done it. Your menuts out
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Speaker 1: This week, you know, Thursday night football. This week, Thursday
Speaker 1: football is over for the year. Um, it's Saturday football.
Speaker 1: Still being Tampa to Tampa. Houston's to be fun. And
Speaker 1: then I fled from Tampa Atlanta Little Jack Falcons. I
Speaker 1: was listening to Jeff breakdown the Falcons. I agree with
Speaker 1: everything he said. It's gonna be a tough matchup. Good offense.
Speaker 1: What time's your game? Saturday? One pm? Oh, you got
Speaker 1: plenty of time to get I actually might meet you
Speaker 1: for a lady. I landed you guys will just be
Speaker 1: on your just cutting open the steak at the Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're good for that. Yeah, we can always do a little.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, where were the Carnivars that we are We're
Speaker 1: gonna go down this road great. By the way, I
Speaker 1: never got a response, but I sent a text out
Speaker 1: are we in for? I was trying to figure out schedule. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: you've got an excuse, Joe, I guess you don't love me.
Speaker 1: That's that's true. By the way, speaking speaking of food,
Speaker 1: I had one of your cookies. Oh my gosh. The
Speaker 1: next break I'll be having another one. Jeff Broad a
Speaker 1: little Christmas breads. It was nice. Let's get to the
Speaker 1: big topic of the week. Of course, A couple of
Speaker 1: things have happened. Food. Um, Tom Coffin's out. We we
Speaker 1: discussed in the first segment Tony and after aything that
Speaker 1: happened earlier in the week. It just felt like something
Speaker 1: was gonna come at some point. Well, I think the
Speaker 1: one thing that needs to be clear the letter from
Speaker 1: the NFL p A and all the stuff about grievances
Speaker 1: and overturned and grievances to the against the Jaguars, and
Speaker 1: what the p A said of that last statement, which
Speaker 1: I think was a little bit of a cheap shot.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think that's the position of the
Speaker 1: PA to be releasing that stuff. I mean, if they
Speaker 1: want to go just to the members, but I don't
Speaker 1: think that needed to be a media released. I think
Speaker 1: it was over the top. With that said, that was
Speaker 1: not the reason Tom Coughlin got fired. All that did
Speaker 1: was speed up the process. I am even if you
Speaker 1: read the statement that Shod put out, and I'm a
Speaker 1: firm believer that Tom Coughlin was going to not going
Speaker 1: to be in the role of e v P at
Speaker 1: the end of the season. I think that was a
Speaker 1: done deal. I think Shod made the decision. All that
Speaker 1: the NFL p A letter did is speed up the
Speaker 1: process by two weeks, That is it. Yeah, I didn't
Speaker 1: know what was gonna happen with Tom at the end
Speaker 1: of the season prior to the NFL p a's release
Speaker 1: that they had. When I saw that, I was like silver.
Speaker 1: But but Jeff, and I mean in your mind, were
Speaker 1: you the same way? No? No, I thought I thought
Speaker 1: before the before anything ever happened Monday with the p A,
Speaker 1: I thought that Tom was probably gonna be not no longer, uh,
Speaker 1: the e v P of this organization. Now, could I
Speaker 1: have seen the scenario that maybe he does you know,
Speaker 1: something else? And I thought maybe that he would have
Speaker 1: a different type of even that something even that I
Speaker 1: thought was a long shot. I thought, what would happen
Speaker 1: more than anything, maybe Tom would retire or whatever. But
Speaker 1: did you ever get the impression was noted he was
Speaker 1: never going to retire. That was not gonna happen, and
Speaker 1: so I think it needs to be clear that this
Speaker 1: is decision was made. I don't know who put those
Speaker 1: reports out though, I mean, who, why are those reports
Speaker 1: out there? I think that's somebody just trying to throw
Speaker 1: something and see if it sticks. It's not true. But
Speaker 1: that's not it. That's not in his nature. No, that's
Speaker 1: not him. No, no, And so I think that, um,
Speaker 1: but I think it's an important thing because it was
Speaker 1: not just the NFL p A. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: if you look at one of the things I love
Speaker 1: about the NFL, and especially when it's done right, is
Speaker 1: that as a player, as a coach, and as an executive,
Speaker 1: you should and usually are judged on wins and losses,
Speaker 1: wins and losses in the overall direction of the organization.
Speaker 1: And I think all of us, every fan, every media person,
Speaker 1: everyone associated with this organization or not associated with the organization,
Speaker 1: that the wins and losses are not in the right
Speaker 1: uh tallies are not adding up correctly. And I don't
Speaker 1: think anyone would argue that the organization right now from
Speaker 1: a football standpoint, just talking on the football side, is
Speaker 1: moving in the right direction from when I say right direction,
Speaker 1: getting better year over year as a football team. And
Speaker 1: so that's what you're judged on. And when you're sitting
Speaker 1: at the top, and it happens all the time. Start
Speaker 1: the players. Players. When you can't perform anymore, you get cut,
Speaker 1: head coaches, when you don't win enough games, you get fired,
Speaker 1: GMS front office people like Tom executive president president. If
Speaker 1: the organization is not winning games and not going in
Speaker 1: the right direction, changes are gonna be made. It should
Speaker 1: not be a shock. And but that's but that's the
Speaker 1: one that's the great thing is we should that you're judged.
Speaker 1: And it's one of the things I loved as a player.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, you knew where you
Speaker 1: stood as a football tea him at the end of
Speaker 1: the every week, either you did it or you did
Speaker 1: you did as a player, you're judged. You sat in
Speaker 1: the film room afterwards and you were judged based on
Speaker 1: your performance. It should be no different from anyone within
Speaker 1: the organization. Is it the end of that you're judged
Speaker 1: based on your performance. And I think that shop looked
Speaker 1: at it. He decided that it wasn't going the right direction,
Speaker 1: weren't winning enough games, and uh, when you're the boss,
Speaker 1: sometimes the boss goes out first. And Tom was the
Speaker 1: boss of operations, last place in the a f C
Speaker 1: South last year, bottom of the a f C South
Speaker 1: again this year. Obviously the change was coming, but that letter, well,
Speaker 1: just spend it up, that's all. It just we now
Speaker 1: know that. But I my thought was is that if
Speaker 1: it wasn't gonna happen, it surely is now. What I
Speaker 1: saw that released by the by the p A, I've
Speaker 1: just I've never seen and I know you said that
Speaker 1: they probably went over the top. I don't really see
Speaker 1: how that was kind of over the top. I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think it's the p a's job
Speaker 1: to start making proclamations of where players should sign or
Speaker 1: not sign with free agency, and that's what they did.
Speaker 1: But I think there is there is a role for
Speaker 1: the p A to make their players aware. You can
Speaker 1: make them aware, you don't. They did not need to
Speaker 1: write the last sentence, which which sentenced The last sentence
Speaker 1: was so as you're making your decisions of what teams
Speaker 1: to go to, please keep this in mind. What they
Speaker 1: are saying there, and we all read it and we
Speaker 1: all know it don't if you have a choice, don't
Speaker 1: go to Jacksonville because they because they find players in
Speaker 1: response to numerous I think if you, if you just
Speaker 1: kind of followed Tom through the years, was it was,
Speaker 1: oh it was shot at him. The number of kind
Speaker 1: of him kind of thumbing his nose incidents out of
Speaker 1: at the union have been numerous, and so I think
Speaker 1: this is kind of one of those things. Were finally
Speaker 1: the union just said, do you know what, We've had enough,
Speaker 1: let's put this out, this information out And there's this
Speaker 1: tag it with this one line, and um, yeah, so
Speaker 1: I get it. I mean, look, when you're abrasive and
Speaker 1: rude to somebody, at some point, somebody's gonna respond back,
Speaker 1: and not in such a kind way. That's what do
Speaker 1: they call that? There's a term for that. Sometimes revenge,
Speaker 1: can retribution. Here's whatever you want. But even with all
Speaker 1: that said, I'm disappointed. I don't think the union needed
Speaker 1: to take that shot. Fine putting it out? What what? What?
Speaker 1: What would you been okay with them putting out as
Speaker 1: far as here's my ke just the percentages. Well, here's
Speaker 1: the other thing, Jeff, and you were the head of
Speaker 1: the union for the team union wrap it for the
Speaker 1: team and very involved. I wasn't, so there's something and
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I don't know as much as Jeff
Speaker 1: does on this area. I don't recall, though, in the
Speaker 1: history that I've been since I got drafted in and
Speaker 1: now we're sitting in twenty nineteen, ever an instance as
Speaker 1: a player or as a person covering teams, covering games
Speaker 1: and following very closely that the Union has ever filed
Speaker 1: a press release about winning grievances against a ball club. Uh,
Speaker 1: not as a percentage, as a total, but they have
Speaker 1: issued releases about grievances that have been won in the past,
Speaker 1: naming specific teams and an individual cases, but not as
Speaker 1: a summary like that was just I thought it was
Speaker 1: just I don't think like too much. And in the
Speaker 1: last line was just where let's move it forward? Now
Speaker 1: the move has been made Tom Coflin's out. Is that
Speaker 1: enough to mend the fence with the p A, with
Speaker 1: this organization of that relationship. I think that shot and
Speaker 1: first of all, the the fence. I don't want to
Speaker 1: say you have to have it mended, but I think
Speaker 1: there definitely needs to be some type type of relationship
Speaker 1: going forward, and it doesn't have to be buddy buddy
Speaker 1: with the union. But I think Shad Khan's response, I
Speaker 1: think is the first step and it's the most biggest step.
Speaker 1: Anything that happens after that, I think is a matter
Speaker 1: of icing on the top, so to speak. And I
Speaker 1: look at if Doug is the head coach here next year,
Speaker 1: and if I were a head coach in this situation
Speaker 1: next year, I'd want to reach out to the union
Speaker 1: and say, hey, look, obviously how things were done have
Speaker 1: We're not gonna be doing business like that anymore. What
Speaker 1: can I do to help make this better? To let
Speaker 1: you know so that your constituency knows that going forward,
Speaker 1: we are a place, a destination that will treat the
Speaker 1: players fairly in the collective bargain under the collective Bargaining Agreement.
Speaker 1: So I think that that that will take. So if
Speaker 1: you do that is the is the is the gonna
Speaker 1: send out And I think I think the way that's
Speaker 1: why the release of Tom Coffin from those duties was
Speaker 1: the biggest thing that you could do in response to
Speaker 1: what the union's press release was. And I think I
Speaker 1: think moving forward, as you asked the question, JP, I
Speaker 1: think one letting Tom go is you know, sends a
Speaker 1: message even though we all know it wasn't the reason
Speaker 1: he got fired and sped it up. But to the
Speaker 1: union still they'll view that as a check the box
Speaker 1: we got, you know, we won. The other way you
Speaker 1: mend that fence is just follow the dang rules. Just
Speaker 1: follow the c b A not hard. That's all you
Speaker 1: gotta do. I don't think if if you what Jeff said,
Speaker 1: if you want to call and do that, that's fine.
Speaker 1: Like to me, that's window dressing. The way you fix
Speaker 1: the window dressing never hurt. I'm not saying it does.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's wrong. The way you fix it, though,
Speaker 1: is you just follow the dang rules, which I've always
Speaker 1: and I said this Monday night, which is always like
Speaker 1: Tom the ultimate, like follow the rule, guy, if you
Speaker 1: like making players follow the rules, didn't want to follow
Speaker 1: the CBA rules, which is this ironic to me, but
Speaker 1: like moving forward, just do what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 1: Treat the players the way there's the c b A
Speaker 1: says A. Treat them in everything will be fine. I
Speaker 1: heard people talk about how uh players of today have
Speaker 1: changed and the rules have changed, the rules haven't changed. Well,
Speaker 1: they've lessened. They're different than when we played as far
Speaker 1: as the c B A well, there's more rules that
Speaker 1: are enforced as far as the requirements, but for the
Speaker 1: most part, there's not a whole lot of difference between
Speaker 1: what we had and what is what the players of
Speaker 1: today space practice rules time spin. It's a little bit
Speaker 1: more detailed, but for the most part, the rules they've
Speaker 1: been there for a number of years, so it's not
Speaker 1: like this is some new landscape that everybody had to
Speaker 1: adjust you about that year. It's been years since these
Speaker 1: And then the other thing is that if there is
Speaker 1: any confusion where you're not sure about a rule, pick
Speaker 1: up the phone. Hey, uh, can I get a little
Speaker 1: clarification on what I can and can't do under the
Speaker 1: collective Bargaining agreement? Picking up that phone, right, That's not
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Speaker 1: I'm Ashland Sullivan. The Jaguars back on the practice field
Speaker 1: today getting ready for the Atlanta Falcons. Everyone on the
Speaker 1: injury report practice fully. That's great news, especially for DJ
Speaker 1: Chart who missed last week's game due to an injury. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the big news of the day is Tom Coffin no
Speaker 1: longer with the Jacksonville Jaguars. The big man Calais Campbell
Speaker 1: paying his respects. So the guaranty in this business has changed,
Speaker 1: you know, especially when you you know, don't perform like performance.
Speaker 1: You know, change happens a lot faster, a lot more often.
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Speaker 1: but that's what's coming up this Sunday in Atlanta. Let's
Speaker 1: go to the phone line now and welcome in from ESPN.
Speaker 1: Jeff Darlington joining us. Jeff, what's going on, man? How
Speaker 1: are you? Sir? Probably not quite good, guys? Are Its
Speaker 1: been quite the twenty four hours for y'all. It's been
Speaker 1: a it's been a busy couple of days, no doubt
Speaker 1: about that. Shod Con put out the statement last night.
Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin is out, um, you know, after everything that
Speaker 1: happened earlier in the week, and Mr Khan said that
Speaker 1: just kind of sped up the process a little bit. Essentially,
Speaker 1: what's your reaction to Coughlin being out of here? We
Speaker 1: an inevitability, um. And quite frankly, I think the reason
Speaker 1: why Shan had to like this was pretty clear. I mean,
Speaker 1: you cannot have the players union uh directing essentially players
Speaker 1: to consider avoiding Jacksonville. I mean that's the death sense
Speaker 1: and uh, I've honestly never really seen anything like that.
Speaker 1: And I think it's uh, not the don't want to
Speaker 1: go to overboard yere, but I think it's a reflection
Speaker 1: of of the culture that unfortunately has existed. Um. Within
Speaker 1: within the Jaguars organization for the past few years, and UM,
Speaker 1: I think it's a much needed change, and it's just
Speaker 1: not you know, the old the old school way. It
Speaker 1: doesn't always work. Jeff, we were talking a minute ago
Speaker 1: about how do you how do you go about fixing
Speaker 1: the that that released by the union incredibly damaging? Is
Speaker 1: the firing of Tom Coughlin enough or does more need
Speaker 1: to be done? Does it? Does the team need to
Speaker 1: reach out to the union in the off season, the
Speaker 1: head coach need to reach out to the union? What
Speaker 1: needs to happen next? From what I understand, those communications
Speaker 1: UM have and will continue to occur. I mean, I
Speaker 1: know Dave Caldwell has a good relationship both with his
Speaker 1: players and with the union itself. And UM, I think
Speaker 1: from the sense that I get talking to people around
Speaker 1: the league, that that that narrative started and ended with
Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin when it came to the Jaguars. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: whether you believe that Dave Calledwell deserves to be fired
Speaker 1: or not, it certainly should not fall under the merits
Speaker 1: of UM. The egregious behavior of Tom Coughlin over the
Speaker 1: past several years. I think that that's UH. That's something
Speaker 1: that will essentially resolve itself with his departure. To be
Speaker 1: completely honest, Jeff, when you say egregious behavior, like what
Speaker 1: do you mean specifically by what behavior are you speaking
Speaker 1: towards or about? Maybe egregious isn't the right word, but
Speaker 1: just I mean, if you have all these grievances being
Speaker 1: filed by players to the point where you know some
Speaker 1: of them some sometimes it turns into a trend to
Speaker 1: the point where, uh, you know, it becomes maybe in
Speaker 1: vogue in the locker room to go ahead and just
Speaker 1: file your grievance immediately, or you know, if it's a
Speaker 1: former player in that case, but in general, you know,
Speaker 1: whether smoked their fire with a lot of that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. And I just don't think, Um, if you
Speaker 1: look around the league the number of grievances that were
Speaker 1: being filed fire filed, and a lot of them were
Speaker 1: coming from the Jaguars organization generally speaking, you can look
Speaker 1: a little deeper and find out, um, why that is.
Speaker 1: And I think in this case, um, you know, com
Speaker 1: Coplin had a very set agenda. He had a real
Speaker 1: disciplinarian plan in place, and and it's to a degree
Speaker 1: backfired and I think, Uh, the NFL p A. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: the thing is, whether you agree with it or not.
Speaker 1: If the NFL p A is telling its agents and
Speaker 1: players to consider steering away from Jacksonville, something has to change.
Speaker 1: That's too much to uh to get past. You can't
Speaker 1: get beyond that. Uh if you have that culturing place
Speaker 1: to where the nflp is doing. Man, yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: pretty big blow. I mean, you're right about that. I mean,
Speaker 1: when the p A, because that's you know, I don't
Speaker 1: think we've ever seen the p A coming out and
Speaker 1: making that. So you're right about that. That's wrong. A
Speaker 1: statement usually require some sort of response. Let let me
Speaker 1: insarch something in here, because Jeff, I think your word
Speaker 1: egregious would be accurate if it were my seven hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars that we're taking a fine schedule, because I
Speaker 1: would want my seven grand interest and I would want
Speaker 1: interest back. And if that ain't egregious, I don't know
Speaker 1: what it is. Well, any other thing is if it
Speaker 1: gets to that point where you're finding somebody seven hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, where is the other action take? It's just
Speaker 1: I don't know that. It just doesn't fit. It's just
Speaker 1: not the way that the NFL works these days. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: here's the deal. The other thing is, I know Jalen
Speaker 1: Ramsey as a character and uh, and he's a lot
Speaker 1: to deal with, but he's still on the Jaguars right now.
Speaker 1: If Tom Coughlin was not um in the position that
Speaker 1: he was in, and I think that that um is
Speaker 1: talent out the door right now, and that is a
Speaker 1: perfect example of what, uh, you know, what you can't
Speaker 1: have in an organization. I think that might have worked
Speaker 1: out pretty good for the Jaguars, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: that with all those draft picks and you've got a
Speaker 1: player that didn't want to play and was taking an
Speaker 1: injury because of it. I mean, to me, that's the
Speaker 1: type of player you don't want, regardless of who the
Speaker 1: was to that point. Especially, I'll take that one back
Speaker 1: from the standpoint you're also you're also dealing with someone
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to pay a lot of money to
Speaker 1: and who knows where that goes. So so that's a
Speaker 1: fair point. They did get a hall of picks there
Speaker 1: as well. But I just think managing talent is such
Speaker 1: a key component to the job. And when we think
Speaker 1: that to all of the positives and all those things
Speaker 1: that we talked about that we're such good things about that.
Speaker 1: What's that done? Squad? It was it was the characters.
Speaker 1: It was the passion and the way that that defense
Speaker 1: fought and uh. And if you're going to have those
Speaker 1: kind of players, you also have to have the kind
Speaker 1: of culture that allows them to drive, and that just
Speaker 1: did not exist anymore. Jeff Darlington with us ESPN reporter
Speaker 1: covering the National Football League a long time in the
Speaker 1: NFL network Before that, you had a series of tweets yesterday, Jeff,
Speaker 1: after this all kind of went down, Um and moving
Speaker 1: forward now for this organization, Caldwell and Marone on an
Speaker 1: interim basis will be reporting directly the shot Cohn. But
Speaker 1: you had a series of tweets thinking that they could
Speaker 1: be retained for the future, and it sounds like you
Speaker 1: have a little support for those guys. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I just get I get the impression that shot Cony
Speaker 1: goloring to support them past this year. The interim aspect
Speaker 1: of the wording of that thing, that made me kind
Speaker 1: of like, wait a second, that doesn't exactly drive with
Speaker 1: what I was sort of understanding the situation to be um,
Speaker 1: but that was off explained to me in a in
Speaker 1: a context that uh, you know that. Look, I think
Speaker 1: that there is still a little bit of a window
Speaker 1: open for a shot to make a decision there. But
Speaker 1: from what I understand, they will be back in two
Speaker 1: So Jeff may, let's look at those two, uh individuals,
Speaker 1: head coach Doug Brown, Dave Caldwell, who's the gm um
Speaker 1: as you look at from the outside, because we're here close,
Speaker 1: I think we all talk about the tough situation, and
Speaker 1: Doug's done a pretty good job of holding it together
Speaker 1: with all the things I've been going on. You gotta
Speaker 1: give him a lot of credit. Uh, But looking at
Speaker 1: the situation where this team is from a coaching standpoint,
Speaker 1: which we just talked about, but then also the roster,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people you look at the
Speaker 1: holes in the roster and and some of the misdraft
Speaker 1: picks and throughout the years and in the history of
Speaker 1: drafting under Dave Caldwell. What are you hearing or how
Speaker 1: do you view it from a distance of why those
Speaker 1: two individuals should be brought back. Well, I mean I
Speaker 1: certainly hear far more annoying suggesting that they should not
Speaker 1: be I can tell you that. I mean, I understand
Speaker 1: for instances, as you guys knows well as anybody the
Speaker 1: sort of um, I mean, the discontent that exists within
Speaker 1: the Jaguar stand base. Um Man, Look, I understand that
Speaker 1: we are now prone to treat that twenty seven team
Speaker 1: season as the outlier when it comes to Dave Caldwell's resume.
Speaker 1: I just would and I know we're maybe we're never
Speaker 1: gonna find out, or maybe we will. I would just
Speaker 1: love to know if the roster that he put together
Speaker 1: and then was the top ranked defense in the NFL
Speaker 1: that year would have sustained. I mean, look, yes, Tom
Speaker 1: Coughlin came into the organization that year and as such
Speaker 1: he's going to get some credit for that, But that roster,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, was built by Caldwell, and I do believe, um,
Speaker 1: outside of the quarterback, which is going to be a
Speaker 1: black mark on his resume, um, you know, out his career,
Speaker 1: outside of the quarterback, that was a championship caliber team
Speaker 1: that you put together. Jeff Darlington from ESPN, always good
Speaker 1: to catch up with you. We appreciate your insight. We'll
Speaker 1: talk to you again soon, I'm sure. Thanks appreciate is
Speaker 1: at Jeff Darlington on Twitter, good follow and a lot
Speaker 1: of thoughts about the Jaguars this week. I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be be interesting, how you know Tony's questionnaire about
Speaker 1: about how Caldwell and Doug Morone will be viewed, you know,
Speaker 1: going forward, and we've talked about Doug and as far
Speaker 1: as Dave goes, you know, will will the mistakes at
Speaker 1: the quarterback position because they coincide with Coughlin's arrival here?
Speaker 1: Does that fall on Tom Coughlin or does that Does
Speaker 1: that fall on Dave Caldwell because the mistakes Tom was
Speaker 1: here when we drafted Blake. You know, I'm talking about
Speaker 1: the contract extensions and then the subsequent where you've essentially
Speaker 1: bypassed the Pro Bowl strong quarterbacks on the a f
Speaker 1: C roster right now. So that to me is going
Speaker 1: to be very interesting. And I think one thing that
Speaker 1: I think it's important as you look at it will
Speaker 1: be interesting. Maybe better description than important is as a
Speaker 1: shot of valuates the Dave and Doug, I would think
Speaker 1: you'd have to do it separately because completely different situations.
Speaker 1: I mean, what Dougs had to do as the head
Speaker 1: coach and managing a lot of the locker room and
Speaker 1: the noise and all the things that go on, and
Speaker 1: a roster that I think all three of us I
Speaker 1: would agree. I know, Jeff, you and I've talked about
Speaker 1: having a lot of holes in it because of missed
Speaker 1: draft picks throughout the years. Is in the job he's
Speaker 1: done injury the Nick foles Gardner mintioned, I mean, really,
Speaker 1: keeping these guys. You know, there's a bad five game
Speaker 1: stretched there. We lost by a big margin, But keeping
Speaker 1: those guys fighting and hanging in there can make you
Speaker 1: can make a case either way four and against each guy,
Speaker 1: and then and then looking at Dave is the big picture,
Speaker 1: not just the last three years when Tom's been here,
Speaker 1: but Dave's been here since and looking at the entirety
Speaker 1: of what's happened. And I think each of them separately
Speaker 1: are gonna have to make a case two shod of
Speaker 1: why they are the right person to move forward. And
Speaker 1: it'll just be interesting to see how that evaluation is done. Um,
Speaker 1: But I do think I would think you would do
Speaker 1: it both of them separately as individuals, based on the
Speaker 1: jobs they've done throughout their tenure here in Jackson, no
Speaker 1: different than the job that you made a decision based
Speaker 1: on about Tom Coughlin and looked at his performance and
Speaker 1: what he had done and all the things that you
Speaker 1: liked and disliked of his tenure and ultimately led to
Speaker 1: his departure. Let's come back, Let's talk a little ball
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Speaker 1: walking back Jaguars happy at her Jaguars happy. I'm j P. Shaddick.
Speaker 1: That's Jeff log and Tony BA Sully is here in person.
Speaker 1: Thanks to Jeff Darlington for joining us earlier. And the
Speaker 1: Jags get the Atlanta Falcons this week in Atlanta first
Speaker 1: regular season visit to the new stadium. The Jacks played
Speaker 1: a couple of preseason games. By the way, great press
Speaker 1: box food. Great comes back to the food. They didn't
Speaker 1: they didn't have great when we were there. The last time.
Speaker 1: I've already I was there once already for Thursday night. Well,
Speaker 1: the last time we were there, the proof didn't even
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Speaker 1: Oh nice, outstanding. Want to let you know it's a
Speaker 1: battle of five and nine football teams, the fats where
Speaker 1: we're talking about the press box. That's a good point.
Speaker 1: The Falcons were not good early in the season, but
Speaker 1: they've won seven start. They have come back a little
Speaker 1: better as of late the last month or so, and
Speaker 1: they've certainly won the last two. They beat two good
Speaker 1: teams Carolina, it would certainly San Francisco two in the
Speaker 1: final play and they beat They beat New Orleans a
Speaker 1: little bit before that, so then they had the ball
Speaker 1: to tie in the second time they play new runs.
Speaker 1: On Thanksgiving, I was there that the ball with a
Speaker 1: chance to tie it down down finish eighteen. So Matt
Speaker 1: Ryan leads the league in completions this year. They're still
Speaker 1: throwing the ball over there. They can't run. They have
Speaker 1: an offensive line that literally they want to be a
Speaker 1: zone team, and they can't run zone. They just they
Speaker 1: don't block it very well. If you and I know
Speaker 1: you've watched dry Jeff, I've watched as well. If you
Speaker 1: look at San Francisco, the most successful runs were running power.
Speaker 1: They have the rookie guard, the right guard, Lyndstrom. I
Speaker 1: think it is h he's back. He's been back a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks after being hurt from this year. Their
Speaker 1: best running scheme is more of a power scheme, and
Speaker 1: it's not that good either. That's why they throw it
Speaker 1: so much. They dropped back and throw it as much
Speaker 1: as anybody in the NFL. Schweitzer, who is their left guard,
Speaker 1: struggles terrible, right, well, not very good. Did you watch
Speaker 1: Have you watched the New Orleans? Didn't watch that? Watch
Speaker 1: the Tell me what you think about McCarry the round
Speaker 1: pick right tackle. Watch him for people that don't. Jordan
Speaker 1: normally have like seven sacks that game. They they have
Speaker 1: two first round picks on the right side of their
Speaker 1: offensive line, Chris Litz from first round pick. He was
Speaker 1: the first of two first round picks from Corston College.
Speaker 1: And then McGary is a Washington guy and he was
Speaker 1: the second first round pick that they had, Caleb McGary.
Speaker 1: He's a big dude now and they listed him and
Speaker 1: I was looking at the six six three oh six
Speaker 1: what they list him at that he's much bigger than that.
Speaker 1: Sticking him on film. Yeah, he's a little stif but
Speaker 1: he's a big dude now. I think they're gonna be
Speaker 1: fine long term term. You can get after the matchup
Speaker 1: this week. If I was a defensive tackle or a
Speaker 1: pass rusher, you I'd want the match up on Schweitzer
Speaker 1: the left guard. I take that all day long. After watch,
Speaker 1: go watch the New Orleans said, just watch the past
Speaker 1: places against New Orleans and you'll be you'll be begging
Speaker 1: to go against McGary. How about this question, how do
Speaker 1: you cover Julio? Joe dug said today that he would.
Speaker 1: Todd Washing said they're gonna rush one and drop ten back.
Speaker 1: He's not far off and he is as gifted and
Speaker 1: special of a wide receiver as there is in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Think there's only been a couple of him like him, Megatron,
Speaker 1: Julio Jones, I don't even I wouldn't put a j Green.
Speaker 1: I mean his marvelous play got his physical exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: Julio is a big, fast man, big fast, strong, fifty
Speaker 1: fifty plays plays every inch of his size and every
Speaker 1: pound of his size. And uh and when he gets
Speaker 1: rolling and they and I will say this, they do
Speaker 1: a great job of hiding him. He moves a lot,
Speaker 1: and he'll play the slot, he'll play the outside receiver.
Speaker 1: They do everything with him to try and get the matchup,
Speaker 1: so it makes it hard. They don't want to. So
Speaker 1: what that does is like you asked this question, you've
Speaker 1: covered in the easy, simple, stupid fan question or media questions.
Speaker 1: Oh just double him. Well, now, if you're a defensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: you're Todd Washing Okay, yeah, I want to double him,
Speaker 1: but based on his alignment, that will change the coverage
Speaker 1: of who will be bracketing this individual. And by the way,
Speaker 1: if one time he's lined up outside, then he's the slot,
Speaker 1: then he's the inside guy of the bunch. The outside
Speaker 1: guy of the bunch. He's emotion like you. At some
Speaker 1: point you can say we'll double him when he's in
Speaker 1: this position, but you can't have draw up a scheme
Speaker 1: where you just chase him round with two people. It
Speaker 1: doesn't work. And so it's much more difficult than you think.
Speaker 1: And and I promise you people will be watching the
Speaker 1: game on Sunday, and I hope it doesn't happen, but
Speaker 1: I bet a lot of money Julio Jones is to
Speaker 1: catch the balls because that's just what he does. And
Speaker 1: the and the fans watching her and say, well, why
Speaker 1: don't you just double them? Well, the reason you can't
Speaker 1: double him so easily because he's everywhere. He plays every
Speaker 1: he plays the ext why he'll played the Z by
Speaker 1: the dubbling, He's moving all over the formation. So uh,
Speaker 1: you know, they do a good job to do a
Speaker 1: real good job of disguising what they want to do
Speaker 1: and getting him matched up one on one six consecutive
Speaker 1: thousand yards seasons. The last time he faced the Jags,
Speaker 1: he was over a hundred yards receiving with nine receptions.
Speaker 1: And I know JP is one of his biggest fans
Speaker 1: because he loves the whole Falcons wide receiving corps. When
Speaker 1: Ridley's healthy too, Will you be wearing a Julio Jones
Speaker 1: jersey on Sunday? Okay, we're just making sure we're double
Speaker 1: checking Saturday night, though I know you'll be wearing it,
Speaker 1: but not during the not during the game, just checking Gay.
Speaker 1: He's a great player, but the one thing he does
Speaker 1: do is score an equal amount of touch that you
Speaker 1: would think. You think a guy in the red zone,
Speaker 1: and for whatever reason, he hasn't struggle. Kind of weird.
Speaker 1: How about the Falcons defense? Quickly here? You know, is
Speaker 1: this a matchup where the Jaguars can move the ball
Speaker 1: a little more consistently? What's the deal with the Falcons?
Speaker 1: They play fast. I'll give you the very fast. Grady
Speaker 1: Jarrett is a really good three undersized, so I think
Speaker 1: if you can get a double on him and run
Speaker 1: at him and power, I think you can get something
Speaker 1: going against him. But when he's one on one, beast,
Speaker 1: Vic Beasley, speed guy, nothing else. Yeah, but he's playing,
Speaker 1: he's he's playing better. I'm still not uh super athletic.
Speaker 1: Arry McKinley is the guy they lost. I think Cam
Speaker 1: Robinson if he has to go against Vic Beasley. That's
Speaker 1: gonna be a tough match. You know who I worry
Speaker 1: more about his Adrian Clayborne against Camp. He's a physical
Speaker 1: guy who will work your inside shoulder and if you turn,
Speaker 1: he's gonna make it tough on you. So they're not great, Um,
Speaker 1: they're playing better as of late, much better, missing a
Speaker 1: couple of guys. Truefont on Our also got the safety
Speaker 1: count O'Neil on. I are so all right, let's come
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