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Speaker 1: Writer, how did the Lucasfilm tour come about? I know

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Speaker 1: our dear friend and super fan Easton Allen set.

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Speaker 2: It up for us purely.

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Speaker 3: But did you just did you just bring it up

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Speaker 3: that you he brought.

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Speaker 4: It up, he offered. He's like he we reached up

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Speaker 5: I feel like he was like, hey, while you guys

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Speaker 5: are up there, you know, I have a friend who

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Speaker 5: works at Lucasfilm and you guys can have a tour

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Speaker 5: like yeah, what okay, get past the Yoda statue and

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Speaker 5: into the you know, yeah, this is.

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Speaker 3: It open to the public those tours, Like how does.

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Speaker 5: You can go to the lobby so you can go

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Speaker 5: in and you can see, you know, some of the

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Speaker 5: stuff that's the lobby just through the window, I guess.

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Speaker 5: And then but yeah, because we got.

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Speaker 2: We're super cool, We're hips baby.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was really special.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, so yesterday we got to see Beyond the

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Speaker 5: Beyond the Lucasfilm Lobby and they have like everything from

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Speaker 5: every movie I've ever loved.

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Speaker 6: Well, that's the other thing is because it was it's

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Speaker 6: like the fiftieth anniversary of ILM. They had a big

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Speaker 6: they're big push to show all the ILM stuff which

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Speaker 6: everybody else is industrial, light and magic.

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Speaker 2: So that basically done every everybody knows in the history.

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Speaker 3: I did not know that.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 4: I was.

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Speaker 5: The geek who bought the like the ILM Giant like

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Speaker 4: In nineteen ninety. I was obsessed with this company and

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Speaker 4: a brilliant company.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was also, you know, I was never into

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Speaker 5: video games, but I was into computer games, and Lucas

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Speaker 5: made the best computer games early on computer games.

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Speaker 2: So Corgan Trail.

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Speaker 5: No, but they basically took the concept of Oregon Trail

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Speaker 5: Secret of Monkey Island is like my favorite for a

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Speaker 2: What was Island?

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's so funny.

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Speaker 2: So I was like ten, and they they there's like six.

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Speaker 4: Of these now or more. But it's you. You play

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Speaker 4: a guy who wants to be a pirate and his

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Speaker 1: And say that one more time, guy Brush Threepood. Guy Brush,

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Speaker 1: that's a first name, yep. Okay, it's a great name.

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Speaker 5: And it's all text based, so there's overaginally there was

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Speaker 4: Basically, but you get to make all these.

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Speaker 5: Anyway, the Lucas, so I was always obsessed with them

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Speaker 6: They were because I know, you were huge in The

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a whole other company.

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Speaker 5: No there there games were like you would ever die

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Speaker 5: They were just really well thought out, character based, well

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Speaker 4: Making anything when we were actually teenagers.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't until the Special Edition came out in ninety seven. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: there's no Star Wars film making anything, and ILM was

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Speaker 4: They were doing facts, but but Lucas was doing anything. Ok. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I felt a little bad because I was pointing out

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to.

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Speaker 1: Do the door We'll say is that it was. It

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Speaker 1: But it's not like when you go on a tour

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Speaker 3: She's like, one of these is original. I don't know

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Speaker 6: I think this was from and I was like Galaxy Quest.

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Speaker 1: She's like right, right, yeah, I know. She really did

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Speaker 6: That's why I felt kind of like a jerk because

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Speaker 2: You know that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: So well, you weren't being a jerk at all, but

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Speaker 2: I'm a total fan. I love Star Wars, anything fantasy basic.

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Speaker 1: The really cool thing was that for me, of course,

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Speaker 1: because I like to shop there was two stores, two stores.

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Speaker 1: Where are the things you could buy in those stores?

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Speaker 1: You could only get in those stores.

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Speaker 2: That's how they get That's how they get you.

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Speaker 3: So I bought.

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Speaker 1: You know, Jensen loves hats and he's really particular about

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Speaker 3: So I was looking.

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Speaker 1: I was like, do I get him a Lucasfilm hat?

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Speaker 1: Because I like corduroy hats. They had corduroy hats of

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Speaker 1: do I get? And I'm asking Writer, do you think

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Speaker 1: I can't ask Jensen, do you think he'd prefer IOLM

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Speaker 1: and he goes, Danielle come here, and he calls me

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Speaker 1: over and they have a Howard the Duck, a Willow

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Speaker 4: Hat Temple of Doom and Last Crusade old school style.

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Speaker 4: Have you what Temple of Doom and Last Years?

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Speaker 3: Maybe they were sold out? Maybe yeah, they may have

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Speaker 1: I sent him a picture of it. Yeah, Howard the Duck,

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Speaker 1: Howard the Ducks lost his mind.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I will wear that's like the most obscure.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen Howard the Duck recently?

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Speaker 4: No, I've heard. It's like not as bad as you've

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Speaker 2: When I was a kid, I was so confused, so

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Speaker 4: And that's what I mean. He like pulls out a

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Speaker 2: Naked there's duck boobs and like the first.

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Speaker 5: Exactly like the movie, the main bad guy turns he's

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Speaker 4: Like trying to like get them with his.

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Speaker 2: It's like so bizarre. It's great.

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Speaker 6: It's weird and wonderful, and the stories behind how it

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Speaker 5: Basically the only movie that George Lucas like executive produced

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Speaker 5: between like the Indiana Johnson Space and it's like, I

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Speaker 6: It was considered one of the biggest, like one of

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Speaker 2: Thompson, she's like the love interest for the love interest

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Speaker 3: Oh, she's a human in it.

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Speaker 5: She actually have sex with the duck. I just remember

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Speaker 4: I was like, why does he have that in his wallet?

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Speaker 5: My Mom's like, well, okay, heard about duck penises?

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Speaker 3: Like that would be a terrible Have you heard about

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Speaker 4: About duck penises?

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Speaker 3: No, why would we know about duck penis.

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Speaker 5: Duck penises are all like corkscrew crazy shapes.

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Speaker 4: It's like, it's it's.

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Speaker 2: A crazy interest. Everybody's penis like that. Sure, well, did

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Speaker 5: Google duck penises and thank you.

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Speaker 3: It is a labyrinth And what did you know about this?

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Speaker 7: I think a radio lab episode.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, duck penis dot com.

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Speaker 4: Unintrucatized ever since I saw Howard the Duck trying to

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Speaker 6: Seriously, watch it. Do not think it's a kid's film.

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Speaker 6: Do not watch it with the kids.

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Speaker 3: I would have. I totally thought I was my family.

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Speaker 6: Who said that you start on a world that is

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Speaker 2: So he opens it up and there's like a naked duck.

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Speaker 8: He learns so much from this movie, seriously, and it

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Speaker 6: You should see what happened how Duck. It's one of

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they also had that Inner Space, which I recently

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Speaker 4: There's a whole international it's so ubsurd.

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Speaker 5: So the dangers of doing cocaine in the eighties and

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Speaker 4: A life less.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about the dangers of doing a podcast

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Speaker 1: on cocaine.

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Speaker 3: I'm Daniel, Welcome to Pod Meets World.

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Speaker 5: I'm Daniel Fishal, I'm right strong, and I'm will for

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Speaker 5: I'm kidding on cocaine. I know.

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Speaker 1: the time. That's exactly right. Well, while here in San

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this week you alive.

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Speaker 1: We are talking to the real San Francisco treat Ready

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Speaker 1: to talk about all these decade defining projects, Please welcome

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Speaker 1: to pod Meats World. Alisa Donovan first, because we made

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Speaker 1: Silently for.

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Speaker 7: I feel like I really just a lot of things.

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Speaker 7: I never saw it, but I do remember being freely disturbing.

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Speaker 7: Thats why I didn't watch it. But hold on, I

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Speaker 7: if you think that I am not going to take

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Speaker 7: what was the legend.

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Speaker 2: Scond?

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Speaker 7: Do you think I'm not going to put that on

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Speaker 7: the back of my car? Are definitely.

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Speaker 4: License plate?

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Speaker 2: N K I L G. I like sneaky Legends.

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Speaker 7: I'm going with it.

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Speaker 1: Listen, make a T shirt, put your face on it.

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Speaker 1: We'll do it for you. I'll send it to you. Please, please,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here with us, see

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Speaker 1: all of you. You are officially our first road trip guest.

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Speaker 1: Oh we've never on the road for Pod Meets World.

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Speaker 1: We've never Yes, that's true.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 4: We've had guests on stage, but we've never an episode. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Correct, I'm an innovator, you know. Yes, sneaky legends.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that is what you live up here in the city.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you've been up here.

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Speaker 7: A lot of years. Thirteen so my daughter, no fourteen,

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Speaker 7: You lived here, and yeah, so fourteen years.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember your audition?

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Speaker 7: I definitely do, Yes, what was happening? So my very

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Speaker 6: I remember reading that script and it was it was

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Speaker 2: No I never never to me, but I don't.

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Speaker 6: I think they sent it to me for Alicia Silverstone's boyfriend,

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Speaker 1: So, okay, I have a question about what because you

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Speaker 3: Did you wear this?

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Speaker 1: Do you guys remember the story that you should always

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Speaker 1: We did every time time, because if you go in

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Speaker 7: Was Bessie Johnson? Okay, a black like silk sort of

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Speaker 7: I can't remember what shoes.

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Speaker 9: I was super important.

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Speaker 2: That's really nice that you were patriotic.

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Speaker 7: I'm very patriotic. Nothing if not a patriot. I don't

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Speaker 1: Clueless turns thirty this year, and as everyone knows, you

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Speaker 3: But being from New York, how did you nail Valley

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Speaker 7: So I based that character on girls that I went

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Speaker 7: Best feeling in the world, the best revenge in the world.

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Speaker 7: But I, I don't know. I was like super geeky

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Speaker 7: Like these relationships and dynamics in high school, they don't

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Speaker 1: Bossy, just hit yeah, I have to I have to

446
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 1: turn it off when she starts talking. Well, all of

447
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 1: you had such great chemistry. Were you just paired up

448
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 1: on the first day of shooting or did you get

449
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 1: to hang out before?

450
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,640
Speaker 7: So some people had tests with each other before they

451
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 7: were to chemistry reads. But I think for Amber because

452
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,639
Speaker 7: she was never like she just is sort of on

453
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 7: her own tear. So I met everybody at the hair

454
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 7: and makeup test, which we I mean, I can't remember exactly,

455
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,919
Speaker 7: but I feel like all contracts were like it was

456
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 7: done done. But that was when I met everybody. And

457
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 7: that was also when they I had like long hair

458
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,199
Speaker 7: sort of, I mean, no one has as gorgeous of

459
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 7: hair as you, but like that like full long hair,

460
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 7: and they cut this that severe short bang and gave

461
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 7: me a bob on that day. And I know Paskowitz

462
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 7: who was amazed. She's incredible. Like every department on that

463
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 7: film was like a magical top notch where I felt like, oh,

464
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 7: this is what it is to make movies. Yeah, so great,

465
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 7: women run everything, they hire all the right people. Everybody's nice,

466
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 7: everyone's excellent at their job, you know. But she, Nina

467
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 7: was the key hairdresser. She was like, are you game

468
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 7: for this? And I said yeah, definitely, And they just

469
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 7: hacked it. And I went into my agent's office afterwards

470
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 7: and they were like can we help you? Like who

471
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 7: was you know? And I was like hi, and they went,

472
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 7: oh my god.

473
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 1: Did they show you a photo before to say like

474
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: this is what we're going to do?

475
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 2: Yeah?

476
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 7: She well she said I want to do a really

477
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 7: heavy bang and then just you know, so that she

478
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 7: was different what it was it was, but it also

479
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 7: just helped. This was like why it was so magical. Also,

480
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 7: every piece helped the character. Right, the wardrobe is the

481
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 7: part of it. It's like it's a gift for an actor, right,

482
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 7: you get all that stuff. It just helps to inform.

483
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 3: Also, what a fun change that you probably never would yourself.

484
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 7: You never would have like been you know what I

485
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 7: should do? But like now you exactly get to It

486
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 7: was amazing. And then it made everything more versatile you

487
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 7: could do. You could put pieces in my hair, you

488
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 7: could do all sorts of other things that they wound up,

489
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 7: you know, doing that is it was really fun.

490
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 3: That is just so cool.

491
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,880
Speaker 1: Well, we had one one guest star slash co star

492
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: in common with the late great Britney Murphy. She was

493
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 1: on two episodes of Boy Meets She was. Yeah, she

494
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 1: played to Penga's best friend Trainy.

495
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 4: Right after you guys film I think.

496
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 2: The next I don't think it evens it even come out,

497
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 2: come out?

498
00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 7: Did you guys shoot over the summer of the spring

499
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:05,199
Speaker 7: we shot? I believe we shot from November to like February.

500
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 5: Okay, so it would have been the next The next

501
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 5: was the beginning of our second season. She came into two.

502
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 2: It was for two. She did two. I think she

503
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 2: was so cool.

504
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 7: It's really like I get emotional thinking about her because

505
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 7: you know, we've done so Alicia and I are like,

506
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 7: everybody's like, how does it feel for the thirtieth anniversary.

507
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 7: We're like, well, sort of like the eleventh, and then

508
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 7: the fourteenth and then the twenty third, and it was

509
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 7: like everybody kind of although it does feel different this year,

510
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 7: but every time, I just you know, she should be

511
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 7: doing these things she should be here. You know, it's

512
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 7: really hard and really odd and because you know, especially

513
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 7: for me, because I feel like I have filled this

514
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 7: spot that should be hers in doing a lot of

515
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 7: the press, like I am asked to speak a lot

516
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 7: more than perhaps I will be. I mean, I don't

517
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 7: know if that's true or not.

518
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 3: But that's how I could feel your mind.

519
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I just like she was so special and

520
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 7: so she had this way of making you feel like

521
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 7: she was elated to see.

522
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 4: You every time.

523
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 7: Yes, and so talented, and it just like it breaks

524
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 7: my heart. I wish that she was taking care of better. Yeah,

525
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 7: that's what I think.

526
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 2: Definitely.

527
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 7: I could talk about this for a long time and

528
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 7: I won't, but yeah, I feel like there's a lot

529
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 7: to be learned there, and I just wish that she had,

530
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 7: you know, better people looking after her.

531
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

532
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: It comes up in our in our conversations a lot

533
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: with people, just the idea of like.

534
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 3: Who is protecting you?

535
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 5: Yes?

536
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 3: Yes, and for so many.

537
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 7: People yes, because you all were so I mean, I'm

538
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 7: sure I've talked about this as kids, but you guys

539
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 7: were so young.

540
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you were older than I was older.

541
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 7: I was twenty two when we were twenty one, she was.

542
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 7: She was the youngest of all of us. I feel

543
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 7: I want to say she was sixteen, but something something

544
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 7: around there.

545
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 4: Her mom was still on sie.

546
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 6: Because her mom was still yet really closely, I think

547
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 6: even if she was, she still would have Yeah.

548
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: I think definitely they were.

549
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: Just so they were in a loving way, codependent.

550
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 6: They were inseparable, but I have Okay, So Clueless is

551
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 6: also famous for having a pretty big.

552
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 2: I guess split in the audience.

553
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 6: Kind of the controversy of how did you feel about

554
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 6: Alicia Silverstone's character ending up with essentially her brother.

555
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 2: Yea, you see, some people are like, it didn't bother

556
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 2: me at all, or I saw.

557
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 3: The person, I was like, that's what's happening.

558
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 7: So I at the time, I didn't really I didn't.

559
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 7: I didn't think anything of it, okay, and then over

560
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 7: time I went, oh, that is a little strange, and

561
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 7: then some people went crazy. And then Amy just was

562
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 7: asked this when we were at the Academy there was

563
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 7: a screening, and she was like, it doesn't matter, Like,

564
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 7: what are they talking about?

565
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 2: Who cares?

566
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,239
Speaker 7: It's not really they didn't live together, Like come on,

567
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 7: you know, it's just like move on. I'm like, all right,

568
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 7: just move on.

569
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 3: I love that. I love that well, similar to Boy

570
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 3: Meets World.

571
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: A lot of our generation have an incredibly close connection

572
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: to Clueless, and you appeared at nineties Con recently with Alicia.

573
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: What do you think has kept this movie so relevant

574
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: in pop culture over the years.

575
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 7: I mean, it's sure similarly similarly to you all, it's

576
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 7: like you can't you sort of can't talk about how

577
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 7: it is to not like you don't you know nothing else, right,

578
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 7: It's like it's a part of your life. There's no

579
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 7: way it's just embedded in your life. So when I

580
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 7: try to think about why, I just think it's one

581
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 7: of these things where it's it's beautifully crafted, it's incredibly

582
00:27:55,840 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 7: well written, it's perfectly cast, every department was operating at

583
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 7: the highest level. And I think it's really it's good spirited,

584
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 7: like these as. Uh, there's something that is so warm

585
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 7: and light about it that and it's approachable, and I

586
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 7: just think, and it's nice to look at, you know,

587
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 7: it's kind of all of the things. But I do

588
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 7: think it's kind of what I said before that it's

589
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 7: so it's timeless and the relationships and that period of

590
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 7: life in high school. It's so hard. It's just not

591
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 7: an easy time. And I think the fact that there

592
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 7: are so there were so many groundbreaking things in that

593
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 7: a black and a white woman in the leads of

594
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 7: a film, same socioeconomic backgrounds, totally equal. Oh you have

595
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 7: a gay friend also great. Oh somebody's drug addict is

596
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 7: going to get sober. Great, you know, like all of

597
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 7: these things like.

598
00:28:53,640 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 6: Such, yes, no, But it's also it's one of those

599
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 6: things where it it's one of those films that also

600
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 6: perfectly encapsulates its decade. So I mean it just the

601
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 6: Clueless represents the nineties, like Breakfast Club or Fast Times

602
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 6: represents the eighties.

603
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 7: I mean that just like makes me so happy.

604
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 6: Are those films that it's like, oh, what's what was

605
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 6: the decade?

606
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: Like put in this one movie.

607
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 10: And it's like that's the day, yeah, right, And that

608
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 10: was what That's one of the things that Amy Heckling

609
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 10: did so well is that she was kind of so

610
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 10: of the time wherever she was so present in the

611
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 10: moment she was that she was like, I can write

612
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 10: something that will show this entire decade in ninety minutes yep.

613
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 6: And that's what Clueless seems to be for the nineties.

614
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 6: It's just like that, this is it, Here's here's the nineties.

615
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 7: I love it.

616
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 4: It's actually more layered than like the Breakfast Club. I

617
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 4: think that. I think it's way more self conscious about it.

618
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 6: I don't think it's more layered than Fast Times, though,

619
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 6: I think Fast Times and Clueless are more are kind

620
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 6: of on par with each.

621
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 5: Other, with the different exactly, but yeah, yeah, I feel

622
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 5: like they're able to capture the time. Will also be

623
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 5: somewhat like out of it, like comment, I feel like

624
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 5: he was writing in it, like he was like, this

625
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 5: is the way teenagers are, and like those movies are

626
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 5: sort of more actually of the time, whereas I feel

627
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 5: like Clueless is so smart.

628
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 4: I mean it's so layered interesting. I never thought about

629
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 4: that way on the thing, so.

630
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 5: It Yeah, it seem I think it's so smart, amazing,

631
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 5: it makes it.

632
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, it elevates it, I think.

633
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 7: From I never thought about it that way with I

634
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 7: think that's exactly right, true, Yeah.

635
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 6: That's like that's what when it comes from Jane Austen

636
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 6: is coming from some of the best source material.

637
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 4: He has ever been so brilliant to do that, right, Yes.

638
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 6: Absolutely, yeah, truly amazing I mean those are those are

639
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 6: iconic literary characters that they're timeless, I mean, truly time.

640
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 6: But then to take it and wrap it in a

641
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 6: decade like the nineties is just it's smart, brilliant.

642
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned it was a movie that's good looking

643
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: to watch, so I want to. I mean, obviously the wardrobe,

644
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: the hair, of the makeup, but also you have yourself, Alicia, Brittany,

645
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: Stacy Dash, Paul Red, Donald, face On, Breckenmeyer, Jeremy Sisto,

646
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: a very good looking young cast.

647
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 3: Did any romantic sparks fly on the side? Oh, I mean,

648
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 3: not that I'm aware, Okay, not that you know of.

649
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 7: I was like so nervous the whole time. I think

650
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 7: that Alicia had a boyfriend who was older. I forget

651
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 7: his name. We should all we should all forget him.

652
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 7: I think, Yeah, that's good.

653
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 4: We don't remember his name.

654
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 7: He doesn't need to be mentioned. Yeah, but Stacy might

655
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 7: have been married at the time. Maybe I can't remember.

656
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 2: The oldest in the cast, right, she was the oldest.

657
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 7: Yes, and Brittany was the youngest. And Donald, Oh gosh,

658
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 7: I love Donald. You know, he's like everyone's favorite person.

659
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 7: We had so much fun, so I don't. I don't not,

660
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 7: okay that you know?

661
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: All right, Well, so much of the fashion in the

662
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: movie has taken on a life of its own even

663
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,239
Speaker 1: decades later. What was it like being fitted for all

664
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: of that stuff?

665
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 5: It was?

666
00:31:59,160 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 7: Is there more of your question?

667
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 8: Did it.

668
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 3: The moment?

669
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 7: It was extensive? You know, I don't know how you

670
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 7: guys feel, but warde of fittings are like my worst nightmare.

671
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 7: But that was my first experience of a long and

672
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 7: I went, oh, this is this is actually meaningful? Like

673
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 7: it was super fun because it was so creative, and

674
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 7: it was always like, again, such a part of the character.

675
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 7: So even though they were really lengthy, it was like

676
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 7: creating the character and this thing of like Amber cares

677
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 7: deeply about everything, so every little detail matters, and you know,

678
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 7: I'd even be like running to set and they'd be

679
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,719
Speaker 7: like wait, wait, wait, wait wait, like take this and

680
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 7: stick it in your hair or put this in your shoe,

681
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 7: you know, like something that was always adding to it,

682
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 7: and we would just laugh, like it was. It was

683
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 7: so fun.

684
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 2: Well, the fashion was one of the characters.

685
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 7: Definitely, definitely, definitely amazing. Yeah, And each character had kind

686
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 7: of their specific flair, you know, and Amber. We would

687
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 7: always say it was the one that you know would

688
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 7: fly to fashion week on the weekend and then bring

689
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 7: it back to English class. But like add a little

690
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 7: more to it. You know, she like less is more.

691
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 7: She's like more is more is better than more.

692
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 6: But it's even the little things that that were written in,

693
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 6: like the father just saying where's my collarless shirt?

694
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 2: From Fred Siegel? You just need that one line to

695
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: know that he was fashion conscious too. That's all you need.

696
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 6: It's like that's where it came from. He just needed

697
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 6: that one line and you knew that he was all

698
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 6: about clothes too. It was in the family. It was

699
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 6: so cool.

700
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: Well then shortly after you would become a part of

701
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: the t G I F Family with the Clueless TV show.

702
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 7: That's right, Oh, she almost forgot.

703
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 3: We ever crosspaths doing promos.

704
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 7: I we must have, right.

705
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 4: I came to set at some point. I forget why.

706
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 5: I don't know who I was, no cluel like I remember,

707
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 5: I don't know who was there. Like for some reason,

708
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 5: I remember walking and like you guys like you had

709
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 5: because you had like a hallway or what.

710
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 4: I I don't know why I was there. I must

711
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 4: have been with you or somebody else. I didn't go,

712
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 4: but I remember being.

713
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 5: Like, oh, this is Clueless like the movie, and we're

714
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 5: on the show, and I wonder if this is going.

715
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 4: To be Is that what I want?

716
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 2: Yess what it was we did promos.

717
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 7: That show was like I think about this, Melissa and

718
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 7: I laugh about this, or I told her and then

719
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 7: she was laughing that we you know, the first season,

720
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,240
Speaker 7: it was like we were on the side of a bus.

721
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 7: You know, there's Melissa and then we the three of us,

722
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 7: us three girl like or were there three of us? Yes,

723
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 7: so Stacey, Rachel and I on the side of the

724
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 7: bus like our big heads, you know, and we were thinking, oh,

725
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 7: here's this show about like the talking cat, Like what

726
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 7: a joke? And then Sabrina becomes eight huge hits.

727
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 3: Clueless is like, oh, I can't quite find its.

728
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 7: Legs, you know. Like we were picked up for the

729
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 7: whole season, which was unheard of at the time. Yeah,

730
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 7: before we even started twenty two episodes. And then they

731
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 7: were like the network very quickly like was this a mistake?

732
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 2: Should we you know?

733
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 7: And then we wound up going to the other not

734
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 7: the UPN and then the WB no UPN. I think

735
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 7: and then Sabrina went to the WB I forget Now,

736
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 7: So we found up only doing one season on ABC,

737
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 7: which is why it was a little to I know

738
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 7: that was the thing.

739
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 11: And but the show did run for three seasons. It did, yes,

740
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 11: as a group of actors who tried to recreate some

741
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 11: magic on TV.

742
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 3: Did it did it ever feel the same or did

743
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 3: it feel different for you guys?

744
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 7: So I think it felt different for sure. But for

745
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 7: me and for my character, she was so much. She

746
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 7: was such a bigger part of this show. So it

747
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 7: was really fun for me because I got to really

748
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 7: work with everybody, you know. And then they put they

749
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 7: would sort of write these capers for Donald and Sean

750
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 7: and I and where they were sort of like Amber's lackeys,

751
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 7: you know, we would like go in these adventures. I

752
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 7: would make them do things, and it was just really

753
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 7: fun in that regard. So we did a bunch of

754
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 7: episodes that I loved. We did like a the Tarantino movie. Yes,

755
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 7: we did a like a sort of version of that

756
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 7: that was hilarious and so many really funny things. But it,

757
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 7: you know, we kind of when it went to UPN

758
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 7: it was better in the sense of freedom. We have

759
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 7: more freedom and it could be a little bit older,

760
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 7: but you know, it just didn't really find its place.

761
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: But that one season of Clueless on ABC was not

762
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: your only fora into the TJIF lineup, because our listeners

763
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: will also know you as Morgan Kavanaugh on seasons five

764
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: through seven of Sabrina the Teenage Witch. What was it

765
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: like joining a show that was already set in its

766
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 1: little successful routine.

767
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 7: That was bizarre because we also my fifth episode was

768
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 7: their one hundredth episode. Wow, so there was all of

769
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 7: this like a big cake. They're like, how does it

770
00:36:59,080 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 7: feel to be one hundred?

771
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 6: You know?

772
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 7: I was like, well, like, you know, and so it

773
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 7: was bizarre, like you're just stepping into something that's already

774
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 7: a well oiled machine. But they also were, you know,

775
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 7: at a certain point, you they it's hard because you

776
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 7: have to grow up, right like you guys known and

777
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 7: then it's like what you do with that? So bringing

778
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 7: her into college and Melissa is like, just she's such

779
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 7: a pro and she's so the word.

780
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: They're close old girlfriend.

781
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 7: You know, she's so easy, like a total pro and

782
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 7: a super easy person to work with. So it was

783
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 7: really it was very fun.

784
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 3: And season five also added Sleigh Moonfry, a former Podmeets

785
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 3: World guest, as well.

786
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 7: I love it.

787
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 3: So there you are playing a roommate of Melissa and

788
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 3: Punky Brewster. It's kind of a tall TV.

789
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 7: I know it is.

790
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: Right.

791
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 7: When I think about this stuff, I think, oh, whoa,

792
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 7: I guess yeah, I sort of did have done like

793
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 7: a lot of things with people who have stood the

794
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 7: test of time.

795
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: I mean a sneaky legend legend, bring it back, you

796
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: known legends.

797
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 7: That's my show, Amy Sugarman. That's what it is, sneaky

798
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 7: legends legend. It's done.

799
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 2: I love it.

800
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: We also had Nate Richard on the show recently, and

801
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 1: he had such an odd trajectory on the show, returning

802
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: to the show in season six after being left out

803
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: of the retooling, and he went from dating Sabrina to

804
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: dating you.

805
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 3: Do you remember any of that dating transmission?

806
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 7: I know, except that my I this is also a

807
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 7: sort of thing that seems to happen with a lot

808
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 7: of my characters. I date everyone, okay nine O two

809
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 7: and oh it was the same thing like I slept

810
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 7: with Jason, I slept with Brian. I was like dating

811
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 7: on and you know Ian and so the same Morgan.

812
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 7: I dated Dan last Yer's character, and then I dated Harvey,

813
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 7: and then one of like Hanson came to them. Hanson.

814
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 7: Remember I was older than all these people like always

815
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 7: playing younger.

816
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 4: So I was a.

817
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,959
Speaker 3: Little bit like, this is uncomfortable.

818
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 7: Okay, okay, all right, let's just do this quickly, you.

819
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 3: Know, like I'm telling you. Hearing her say that is

820
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 3: exactly why my.

821
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: Mom didn't let me watch nine O two one. Oh yes,

822
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 1: it's the only show that she mentioned. She was like, yeah,

823
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: you know, I can't made out with Harvey, made up okay,

824
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 1: and then on night I was like sleeping with Jason, sleeping.

825
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 7: The very first shot of me in that show is

826
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,919
Speaker 7: the opening of this season, and I like roll over

827
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 7: in bed with Jason.

828
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 3: Everything like that. That character was whoa, I really? Yeah?

829
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 2: Did she have a good time? Did you were you

830
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 2: in Melrose Place at all?

831
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 9: No?

832
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: Okay, I was curious if they just started just keep going.

833
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 7: I also stole things as that character. I like, I think,

834
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 7: I feel like I stold people's rolex and some other things.

835
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 7: I smoked pot, but you couldn't, like, you couldn't show it,

836
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 7: so like I had was holding a joint over here,

837
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 7: but you couldn't put it to your mouth.

838
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 3: They were like all these you could just be holding.

839
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 7: Out a lot of pot just like this.

840
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:40,280
Speaker 9: In their life before doing am smoking, doing the grass,

841
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 9: doing grass.

842
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 3: Oh my god, my gosh.

843
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: Well t G I f Also wasn't the only commonality

844
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: we had. I know, we also found our history hanging

845
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: around the Instinct guys in the late boy Band nineties.

846
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: You appear in the Thinking of You I Drive Myself

847
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: Crazy music.

848
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 2: Video, another fandom of the nineties.

849
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 3: She's a part of it.

850
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 7: I mean, I know, I know. How did I not

851
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 7: do boy MutS World? I wasn't invited.

852
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 3: I know that's a missed opportunity.

853
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: So how did you meet the Instinct guys and what

854
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: do you share about your experiences with them.

855
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 2: Today?

856
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 7: I share it all? Okay, great, For many years I

857
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 7: did not. So they did an episode of Clueless and

858
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 7: I feel like it was close to the end of

859
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 7: the show and they again, this is me. I'm this

860
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 7: is also a part of my story. How anything that

861
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 7: I sort of like make fun of or have something

862
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 7: to say about, ie, oh, the Talking Cat Show really

863
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 7: with InSync that you know the studio said, this is

864
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 7: a really big deal, like these guys are coming on

865
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 7: and I was.

866
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 3: Just like.

867
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 7: These like little boys, like what like boy? I was

868
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 7: literally making fun of them before they got to set.

869
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 7: I was like, I'm going to request dirty print songs

870
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 7: for them to sing. Then of course they show up.

871
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 7: They're super professional, They're really kind, incredibly talented and incredibly talented,

872
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 7: and I was like, oh, I'm the I am definitely

873
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 7: the jerky.

874
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 2: Let's go, let's make out.

875
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 7: So that's how I met them, and then we started

876
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,959
Speaker 7: hanging out like I would go out with them. Yep,

877
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 7: Joey and I started dating. That was like under the

878
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 7: under the under the radar. Yes, I did.

879
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: Stop trying to steal my story, but I would like

880
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: I remember and that, oh my god, going to see

881
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: one of their concerts.

882
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 7: I also I was like I was on their tour

883
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 7: bus for a couple of days, Like what was I doing?

884
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 7: But I like flew to Florida or something. I don't know,

885
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 7: but I remust.

886
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I know we were on the bus at

887
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 1: the same time for the for the shoot, But did

888
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: we go on tour together too?

889
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 3: Because I went on tour many times?

890
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 9: You did?

891
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 7: You were so I can't remember. I feel like you.

892
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,439
Speaker 7: We had a crossover maybe of like a day or two,

893
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 7: and then I like, and you left, and I because

894
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 7: I remember feeling like, oh, Danielle's here, and then it

895
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 7: was like, oh, or now it's just me, and now

896
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 7: this feels weird. I don't know, I want, but I

897
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 7: remember going to the show at the Staples Center or

898
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 7: some something in LA like one of the big venus

899
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:37,240
Speaker 7: for him. And I got out of you know, Joeys

900
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 7: like come, you know, a couple hours early or whatever.

901
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 7: So I get out of the car and I am

902
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 7: swarmed as if I am one of the Beatles, you know.

903
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 7: And they were just like she's going to say that

904
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 7: you And I was like, oh my god, yeah, and

905
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 7: I went inside. I was like, this is insane. How

906
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 7: like that that level of it's just it's wild, you know,

907
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 7: And that age is like that, like thirteen, fourteen, fifteen

908
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 7: year old girls, like there's just like yeah, yeah.

909
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 8: And saw that with them, I mean you also saw

910
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 8: that with Joey so Y's They were see some of

911
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 8: the most crazy fandoms of all time.

912
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 2: I mean that's incredible.

913
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 1: I remember we left the we left the Jay Leno

914
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 1: show once it was uh and Sarah friend and Tara

915
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 1: Sarah drove me, Justin and Lance out and she had

916
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: a she had a big old convertible.

917
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 3: Yes, and they could see, you know, they could.

918
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: See them just sitting in the car and literally it

919
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: was and running after the convertible and it was like crazy.

920
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 3: I remember just looking back and being like, oh, I'm

921
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 3: I'm living one of.

922
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: Those clips I've seen of what Beatlemania was, Like, I mean,

923
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: how did do you remember going to what was the

924
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: name of that place?

925
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 7: I had an Irish name. It was upstairs Dublin Doublin's.

926
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 7: Yeah about Dublins, Yeah, somebody did Dublin's. And like, Dan,

927
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 7: when I think about that now, I'm like, how did

928
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 7: we go dancing there? Just like, you know, out dancing

929
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 7: totally normal Justin and Chris and Joey, Like, how did

930
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 7: we do that? I know without?

931
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 3: I guess outside it was crazy to do it all

932
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:12,280
Speaker 3: over the place.

933
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: Like there were times that I would be on tour

934
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: and Justin would call and go, hey, do you guys

935
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 1: to Lance, do you do you guys want to go dancing?

936
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: And I should have thought it was odd when Lance

937
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: would be like, well I don't, but Danielle, do you

938
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 1: want to go dancing, and then Justin and I would

939
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 1: go dancing, and then I'd be like, are we supposed

940
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: to be doing this?

941
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 6: Wait?

942
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 7: Didn't we? Did you come to my house to watch Clue?

943
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 7: You know, Clue is one of my favorite movies of

944
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 7: all time, as it is Lance's as well.

945
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's also my husband. This is like, oh,

946
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 1: my husband is obsessed with Clue.

947
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 7: I desperately want to remake this film. I know that

948
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 7: they're already doing it, but I don't care. I'll do

949
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 7: it better. I need to be in this movie. But

950
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 7: so we read this is back in the day of

951
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 7: like you know, vhs HS thank you, and I rented

952
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 7: it from my I lived in uh Bronson Canyon at

953
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 7: the time, the little place down on the corner of

954
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 7: Franklin and I we watched it.

955
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 3: I thought that you were there. I may I may

956
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 3: have been. I have a terrible memory.

957
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 7: And but the thing is then I was like, no,

958
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 7: you guys can take it, because they were going to

959
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 7: take you. They were going back on tour and then

960
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 7: never brought it back. And like every time I went

961
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 7: to the video Star, they're like one hundred and fifty

962
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 7: dollars two hundred dollars.

963
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: Bring to a different video star, like I just yeah.

964
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, stolen.

965
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: My clue.

966
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 7: Oh my god.

967
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 2: It was.

968
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if you remember when when did

969
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: we shoot? When did you guys shoot the video? The

970
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 1: music video?

971
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 3: It must have been June or July. Yes, that sounds right,

972
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 3: because Lance had just broken up with me.

973
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 2: Were supposed to wait, but you were there.

974
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 3: But I was just there, but I wasn't the girlfriend

975
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 3: thought you.

976
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 7: Weren't in it because you didn't want to meet. I

977
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 7: thought it was too on the nose that people then

978
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 7: would really know that you guys were dating.

979
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: Well people at this point, he had already told people

980
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: on jay Leno we were dating.

981
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 3: So I just like it was at Merseach to be allowed.

982
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: I was the first girlfriend to kind of be allowed

983
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: to be talked about.

984
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 2: Respect.

985
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 3: She's a girl.

986
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 1: She's a girl, I promise where stress is super pretty

987
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: and so people knew. But he it was like right

988
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: after because he went to my prom and then he

989
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: broke up with me, but he still invited me to

990
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: the shoot, which was really we were still hanging.

991
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 7: Out and didn't know that that you guys. Did I

992
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 7: know that you because I feel like we didn't we

993
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:48,720
Speaker 7: drive you home or something.

994
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: I probably cried. I was so sad. I think I

995
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: also brought him our prom pictures to that shoot, like,

996
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: here's your copies of your calm pictures. I'm sure you

997
00:47:59,080 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: want to do this.

998
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 3: And so yeah, I was like really sad.

999
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: And then so we broke up in June of ninety nine,

1000
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: June or July of ninety nine, and that New Year's Eve,

1001
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: I went to Hawaii with them for it was still

1002
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 1: sousing for a young lady, but I had very confused

1003
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: so close to all of them.

1004
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was still Lance, the only one EVENTS think

1005
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 7: that you dated. Yeah, okay, of course what I do

1006
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 7: think I remember because I'm a little older than you,

1007
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 7: and everyone I remember going.

1008
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 3: Lance doesn't.

1009
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 7: I'm unclear about what's going on here except me get it.

1010
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, But then I.

1011
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 7: Wondered, did you I've never actually asked Joey this? Did

1012
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 7: he did? Did all the guys know? And did they

1013
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 7: just agree not to say anything?

1014
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 3: Chris or did say that even regularly?

1015
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 9: Oh? He did?

1016
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 3: Kristen just flat out say, do you know that your

1017
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 3: boyfriend is gay?

1018
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 2: Oh?

1019
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 7: Jeez, you totally see him saying that.

1020
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 3: Actually, Lance was thin, and Lance would act put out

1021
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 3: by it, and I would be.

1022
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 2: Like, no, did Lance really know?

1023
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 4: At this point.

1024
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 3: Lance internally did.

1025
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: But truly, Lance, I mean, it's one of the sweetest

1026
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: things anybody's ever said about me. But Lance was still

1027
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: also very much of the belief that like he could

1028
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 1: shake the gay away if he just met the right girl,

1029
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: like if if I could just.

1030
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 4: Be so.

1031
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: And then he said, like, truly our prom night where

1032
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: it was very clear I thought one thing was going

1033
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: to happen, or was really hoping something was going to happen,

1034
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: and he wanted to watch The Green Mile, and he

1035
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: realized I very romantic movie. He said that I couldn't

1036
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 1: make it work with Danielle. I really wasn't going to

1037
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: be able to.

1038
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 2: Make it work with her.

1039
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 3: And I think that and so he knew he had

1040
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 3: to wake up with me.

1041
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 7: It was clear that you two had a very sweet

1042
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 7: like you had a real you loved each other very

1043
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:00,919
Speaker 7: that was very real.

1044
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, we still care about each other. Yeah, going exactly,

1045
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: we care about each other. I have one other project

1046
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: of yours I need to talk to you about. I mean,

1047
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: we could go on and on and on forever, but

1048
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: I do need to ask you about Night at the Roxbury,

1049
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: a movie that, in my opinion, does not get the

1050
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: attention that it deserves.

1051
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 3: It was produced by.

1052
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: Amy Heckerling, the director of Lewis and You Pay You Play,

1053
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: cam by Chris Catan's girlfriend.

1054
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 3: This must have been such a moment.

1055
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 4: Oh my film.

1056
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 7: I have to say. We were shooting this series of

1057
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 7: Clueless during the day, so days and Roxbury we shot

1058
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 7: a lot of nights.

1059
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 3: Uh huh.

1060
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 7: So there were there was like a week there where

1061
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 7: I was twenty four hours. Oh they'd picked me up

1062
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 7: from Paramount. But you know, you don't say no, right,

1063
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 7: of course I have to do this, but I was

1064
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 7: Looney Tunes exhausted. Which then those two Will and Chris

1065
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 7: are like maybe two of the funniest people. I could

1066
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,240
Speaker 7: not well. I mean I wish that they would show

1067
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 7: the outtakes from that film because every time it was

1068
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 7: just like sometimes I would have to say, can you

1069
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 7: guys turn around, like for my coverage, Like I couldn't

1070
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 7: look at their faces because it was too much. Seriously,

1071
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 7: I'm like, no, no, just go home, go home.

1072
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't be so hard.

1073
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 7: I mean I didn't no, So it wasn't like the

1074
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 7: whole time, but there were there was like a week

1075
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 7: and a half where then I like broke down. I

1076
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 7: remember breaking down crying at Paramount shooting Clueless and like

1077
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 7: this light scene, and I was like, are you guys

1078
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 7: are just we just.

1079
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 6: I?

1080
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 7: Nancy and the director Linda Day. Did you guys ever

1081
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 7: work with Linda Day? She was one of the only

1082
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 7: female direct TV directors at the time. She was so dear.

1083
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 7: She was like everybody's mom, and she was like, they're

1084
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 7: working her too hard. You need to give her a break.

1085
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 7: And I was like, well, don't give me too much

1086
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 7: of a break.

1087
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 2: I want to do the job.

1088
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 7: I can handle it. But it was so that dance scene.

1089
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 7: They wanted to give us some stand ins like dance

1090
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 7: doubles and gg Rice and I and I mean Will

1091
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 7: and too. We were like no, no, no, no, no way,

1092
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 7: like we are doing it. Yeah, oh so fun. It's

1093
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,919
Speaker 7: like my dream. It was super fun.

1094
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 4: I haven't said so one project I haven't seen.

1095
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 7: I just watched The Day.

1096
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 2: I've seen the rest of the movie.

1097
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 7: Molly Shannon is in it.

1098
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, I have to watch some of those SNL movies

1099
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 6: that kind of slide under the radar a little bit

1100
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 6: are some of my favorite things ever.

1101
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, like Ladies Man is one of my favorite

1102
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 2: movies of all time. So I've got to see Okay,

1103
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 2: I'll see that.

1104
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 7: Roger Murray, Alright, it's fun.

1105
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna make you choose, is my last question.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to make you choose.

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Speaker 2: Which are one of us to kill? It's going to

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Speaker 2: be a.

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Speaker 6: God.

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Speaker 7: I better get this right.

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Speaker 1: And of all of the incredible nineties projects you were

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Speaker 1: a part of, what would you say is the most fun?

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Speaker 7: Oh? I I feel like every project had its moments,

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Speaker 7: but like, oh my gosh, I don't know, I really

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Speaker 7: I I mean, I almost want to say the dance

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Speaker 7: and the night of the Rossberry if I could do

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Speaker 7: a specific if you could pick a moment, a moment

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Speaker 7: that was really fun because I love dancing, Like I'm

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Speaker 7: the person that would leave parties and pretend like I

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Speaker 7: was going to bed and go salsa dancing, like keep

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Speaker 7: Salta shoes in the trunk of my car. I'm not kidding.

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Speaker 2: I gotta go, Yeah, I gotta go.

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Speaker 7: And then I get in my car, change my shoes

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Speaker 7: and my clothes and go to l Florida on Fountain

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Speaker 7: Fine yep, so like I to me, that was like

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Speaker 7: marrying all the things that you love.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's amazing. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 7: Are the best? How fun? Does everybody just want to

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Speaker 7: come back all the time because so much?

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Speaker 3: That's not true.

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Speaker 7: To be clear, you're not welcome back. You are welcome anytime.

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Speaker 3: So loved having you always. Great to see you.

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Speaker 7: Thank you for taking time out of.

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Speaker 1: Your busy schedule to be with us on a Saturday

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Speaker 1: at nine am.

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Speaker 7: Loved I loved it, loved it.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for coming to San Francisco anytime. Anytime. We can

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Speaker 3: all be convinced to move, So do it.

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Speaker 2: Do it.

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