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Speaker 1: R and B money, honey, thanks take about the time.

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Speaker 2: We are the authorities on all the R and B.

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Speaker 3: Sure mayah, yeah, yes, of course I knew all about

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Speaker 3: q mm hmm or when he was playing something with

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Speaker 3: Jimmy Lusferger long before Count Basie and all of that.

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Speaker 2: Ship.

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Speaker 3: I got turned down when uh Clive Davis opened the

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Speaker 3: studio in North in North Hollywood, Locking came over from

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Speaker 3: Capital we buddies for me, say, man, I need some songs.

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Speaker 3: I brought him four songs and I thought this were smokers.

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Speaker 3: Can't listen to My ship didn't been up in this, Benjamin,

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Speaker 3: What kind of ship is this? M hm A meen.

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Speaker 2: See, you brought me four pieces and ship.

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Speaker 3: Damn. I never even heard him.

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Speaker 2: Talk like that.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know what to say. Okay, give me my ship,

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Speaker 3: let me go. I went home crying.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I've never been turned out. Well, I'm crying.

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Speaker 3: Got to the door. The phone was ringing. This is

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Speaker 3: how God works. Hello, Benjamin, right, Yes, this is Kluency Jones.

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Speaker 3: Quency who Quincy Jones? Well, I never met Quincy, but

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Speaker 3: I knew his whole background. Everybody played with all the

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Speaker 3: old timers and open and they two more times.

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Speaker 2: I asked him in new conversation question.

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Speaker 3: Who mm hmm. He said, Hey, man, I'm working on

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Speaker 3: Michael Jackson. Really want you to be part of it,

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Speaker 3: but I'm still scared. Cat gave me an actress to

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Speaker 3: come to. I found a place. Beautiful lady come innswered

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Speaker 3: the door, and I knew the lady. The lady was

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Speaker 3: Peggy Lifton. I knew her because I've been watching March Squad.

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Speaker 3: And she said, Hi, Benjamin, Damn, she knows what's what's up?

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Speaker 2: Man? Damn?

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Speaker 3: Nothing like that, you know. Yeah, gave man how you

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Speaker 3: doing so?

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Speaker 2: And so?

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Speaker 3: Man, I'm glad you hear so. And he said, come

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Speaker 3: on back. It's a big studio in the back. I'm quiet,

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Speaker 3: I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm actually scared. I never been

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Speaker 3: in the midst of such royalty. Then you start talking, Yeah, man,

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Speaker 3: I'm Finn do this, this project on Michael Jackson, and

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Speaker 3: so I really want you to be involved. Okay, I'm quiet, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 3: you can't give me a song. One song? And he

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Speaker 3: gave me thirty days. Okay, about twenty eight days. I

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Speaker 3: still hadn't put anything on the paper. I didn't know

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Speaker 3: what to do. I know what to write because this

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Speaker 3: is Quincy Jones. I knew all of his history, but

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Speaker 3: it's still Quinny. I prayed on it. Lord, I need

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Speaker 3: God and our friends, he said, Benjamin, just go in

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Speaker 3: there and start writing. I did it a few days later,

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Speaker 3: session time. I think I called forty string players got

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Speaker 3: in in. When getting into the studio, I'm at home.

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Speaker 3: Ain't no more fright. Maybe a fight because I'm going

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Speaker 3: to kick somebody's ass.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Whence he came in and watching him through the glass,

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Speaker 3: he fell on on the floor, said, oh my god,

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Speaker 3: something is wrong.

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Speaker 2: He was tripping.

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Speaker 3: This is the ship, this is it, and I'm still scared.

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Speaker 3: Finally this one was over and he went crazy. The

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Speaker 3: thing that let me know he went crazy because he

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Speaker 3: gave me another song on the spot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The first song was don't stop you Can't keep on.

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Speaker 3: He loved it. That's the first song I did.

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Speaker 1: He came out the gate though, okay, cooking, smoking, smoking,

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Speaker 1: all right, ye see, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Coming over here next week too.

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Speaker 3: The next song was rock with you, good Lord, and

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Speaker 3: God blessed it. And the home room. The next song

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Speaker 3: shit I Forgot dance with me, No, No, no, I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I didn't do dancing. You didn't do dance with me.

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Speaker 3: I thought she did dance with me dancing dancing.

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Speaker 2: Dan No, no, no, no, no, you didn't do that one either.

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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't remember.

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Speaker 2: They gave you credit, they gave me.

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Speaker 3: It was minded. But the third song I can't remember.

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Speaker 3: But collectively I had three songs.

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Speaker 2: And get on.

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Speaker 4: The floor, I'm singing as the yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: And I'm sorry I didn't I didn't tell you guys

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Speaker 3: who my manager was.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we know her, we know her. Who was it Astley? Right?

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Speaker 2: I said, wasn't anymore my lord?

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Speaker 3: And saved Jesus Christ. Yeah boom. So each one just

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Speaker 3: another song. Now there's four songs. But the fourth song

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Speaker 3: was a song that I wrote. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: you guys, I can remember song James Ingram singing called

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Speaker 3: Fine one hundred ways because.

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Speaker 2: That's my ship.

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Speaker 3: Yeah we know, we do know that that's my song.

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Speaker 2: I wrote that. Talk about it. Yeah, he's boosted me on. Huh.

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Speaker 2: You better believe it. You better believe it.

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Speaker 1: Hold on in case you haven't noticed. My name is Tank.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jay Valentine, and this is the R and B

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Speaker 1: Money Podcast, the authority of all things R and B.

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Speaker 1: The legend was talking, all right, So when he talks,

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Speaker 1: we listen. That's what's going on right now. All right,

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Speaker 1: mister Benjamin Wright, Benjamin right, V.

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Speaker 2: You make V. Benjamin right.

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Speaker 4: You may continue however you want this interview to go.

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Speaker 2: It's how it's gonna go.

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Speaker 3: Well, I gave you another head start because Q didn't

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Speaker 3: have any R and B hits one one. But that

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Speaker 3: goes back to when I was a young fellow and

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Speaker 3: he had gotten booted out of Europe and came to Chicago.

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Speaker 3: He was actually living in Chicago then and Leslie.

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Speaker 2: Gore, you guys remember that name.

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Speaker 3: It's my pipe. Yeah, yeah, that's Posie Jones.

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Speaker 2: Didn't know that. I bet you didn't know that.

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Speaker 3: But that just made a whole nother thing for Q

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Speaker 3: opened the world up to him, and he was He

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Speaker 3: took a job at Mercury. Then then he came to

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Speaker 3: the West Coast and everything else was history.

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Speaker 2: Everything he touches like but no not.

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Speaker 3: But however, everything I touched was hitting the top of

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Speaker 3: the charts.

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Speaker 2: Called blessings blessings, real blessings.

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Speaker 3: And I did a lot of stuff with Cue, but

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Speaker 3: these these four tunes that I just needed was like.

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable. And then you know, I got bigheaded. What happens.

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Speaker 3: I don't need to kill no more because everything else

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Speaker 3: I was doing were hits. Everything I touched was the

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Speaker 3: hit everything, and and I grew and the relationship that

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Speaker 3: I was, that that was established with Q was a

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Speaker 3: call from him every day when it became like that

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Speaker 3: until he died.

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Speaker 2: You know, so straight ahead que.

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Speaker 3: Pretty much everything I've done, it's been a hit. It's

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Speaker 3: a blessing. You.

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Speaker 1: You spoke earlier about a group called Earth Wind and Fire.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know.

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Speaker 1: You said you had a story about Boogie wonder Land.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I don't know if you cats are old

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Speaker 3: enough to remember the early recordings of Maurice.

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Speaker 2: White him completely by himself.

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Speaker 3: Well, Maurice was a jazz drummer. Okay, never heard that,

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Speaker 3: literally no, And one of the jazz cats that you

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Speaker 3: possibly remember was Ramsey Lewis. Oh yeah, but Maurice was

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Speaker 3: too noisy because he plays like this, Yeah, he'd.

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Speaker 2: Be in his own world, you know.

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Speaker 3: But for the classy pianist what you doing, but he

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Speaker 3: could play as he finally stepped away before the ram.

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Speaker 3: Maurice White was the drummer at Chess Records. Mm hmm,

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Speaker 3: you can remember Chess Records all of the stuff from

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Speaker 3: Chess Maurice. So anyway, the studio that we recorded in

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Speaker 3: what's called Paul Serrano's studio, and she cargo and Paul

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Speaker 3: was like, Reese, gotta check out this young brother, Benjamin

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Speaker 3: Wright Man.

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Speaker 2: Every day.

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Speaker 3: And this is very laid back, not gonna say much.

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Speaker 3: So I start getting calls from Maurice's Hey man, Hey,

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Speaker 3: Weese was sading man. Three minutes later nothing. Then, what

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Speaker 3: kind of motherfucker? This calm never says anything. However, he

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Speaker 3: his little brother, Fred White drummer and I played in

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Speaker 3: the same band together, and I just got time getting

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Speaker 3: calls from Maurice because he never says anything. So when

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Speaker 3: Oh no shit. The song tuned out. It was for

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Speaker 3: a group called the Hutcheson Brothers something like that whatever,

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Speaker 3: but didn't like how they performed on the song. Okay,

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Speaker 3: and then the arrangement was a little suspect a little bit,

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Speaker 3: but you gave it to me. I just got divorced.

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Speaker 2: I was broke. Mm hmm. That's what it did to you.

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Speaker 3: It's called no money, it's called and no, honey, you

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Speaker 3: definitely get that's how you get the divorce. Wait a minute.

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Speaker 2: But at that time there was.

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Speaker 3: No ash in the air, and and all the other kids,

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Speaker 3: and but and I was not a wild man. M

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Speaker 3: I have to let this out.

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Speaker 2: All my life. I've been a church man, amen, all

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Speaker 1: We're trying to bust me, man, No, try to your

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Speaker 2: Same thing.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, you got divorced, and you broke and broke, and

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Speaker 3: the phone rang. It was Maurice who this time had

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Speaker 2: And I had to.

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Speaker 3: I had to walk over to the studio in Chicago

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Speaker 3: another big crew. After the love He's gone, okay, mhm uh.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's great.

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Speaker 3: You arrangement. You know who the arrangement was. Anyway, he

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Speaker 3: and I listened, like, tell him this is bad. Rees

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Speaker 3: finally got something from all ree White and I lived

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Speaker 3: But I, you know, was much older than me, so

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Speaker 3: you know, we went hand m But I went to work. Man,

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Speaker 3: I went to work, and about three days later I

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Speaker 3: People don't like me because I call all the musicians

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Speaker 3: in the world do my sessions, big strings, big horns,

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Speaker 3: all the superstars. We did it, and that song happened

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Speaker 3: to have been will Give wonder Land. Now the emotions

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Speaker 3: and they were pissed because Maurice didn't give them the song.

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Speaker 3: But Maurice says, you know, now this's got to be

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Speaker 3: for the fire. Okay, yeah, that was it, and yeah,

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Speaker 3: tell me what nine guys in their friend and Fire.

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Speaker 3: I had about twelve horns and all the strings that

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Speaker 3: we weren't working that day. Boom, come on, come ye

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Speaker 3: all yeah, and you know you listen to the orchestrations

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Speaker 3: on that. That's pretty heavy. Man and Reese had no

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Speaker 3: idea whatever was going to be. But boy, when that

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Speaker 3: for the fire. Wasn't for the emotions anymore.

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Speaker 2: It's got to be for the fire.

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Speaker 3: They're still unhappy today today because they figured he took

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Speaker 3: a hit from them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and those don't come around every day. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It was always fighting. Were you mad at somebody? No,

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Speaker 3: It was in Chicago. That's what you did in Chicago. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Do you know take take about three days to finish

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Speaker 2: That was it.

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Speaker 3: That's the routine. Then it got sold that I was

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Speaker 3: I never heard that from her.

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Speaker 3: Three days later, they come back to Chicago. My office

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Speaker 3: Hey, Ben, Jerry, are you doing? Hey man, I'm fin

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Speaker 3: Jerry, you don't know what you're talking about. Got a

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Speaker 2: Hey.

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Speaker 3: I took me three days to getting nine shit together.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to take the family, but my wife is

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Speaker 3: She used the N word, I mean you crazy. Third day,

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Speaker 2: Trucks, ride the trucks, then ride a truck.

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Speaker 3: I had to be three two Leslie's I'm hot, move

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Speaker 2: What's going on in here? Baby?

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Speaker 3: You remember I called you four days ago. I said,

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Speaker 2: See I'm moving.

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Speaker 3: Well what about us?

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Speaker 2: I call you, I told you we are moving. You

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Speaker 3: Is that the last piece?

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Speaker 2: Man? Let's go going to La as it?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 2: That was my move got to LA.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know where to go, but it ended up

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Speaker 2: That's right. And the ship man yeah right now, they

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Speaker 3: I was coming out of the building, somebody say, Benjamin right,

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Speaker 3: Mickey was the vice president of Motown.

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Speaker 2: And still is.

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Speaker 2: Then, hey Mick, what's up? What are you doing this?

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Speaker 2: They just moved here. See how God works.

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Speaker 3: I have no money. I'm sorry. I mean he would

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Speaker 3: you have got to be the Temptations music director. I

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Speaker 3: the conclusion, your ass is broke. I took the Temptations job.

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Speaker 3: What a job because the Temptations had their music director,

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Speaker 3: had lost all the music. Oh and at that particular time,

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Speaker 3: I could do that. That's a pischy cake. We wrote

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Speaker 3: like a dog. Excuse expression little young motherfucker. Okay, and

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Speaker 3: I'm talking more shit than them. You motherfuckers couldn't even

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Speaker 3: And they man wrote the book. And then finally the

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Speaker 3: Temptations had to go to Detroit. And everybody's heard about

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Speaker 3: Tim's got new music directed, so go there and they

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Speaker 3: introduced me to everybody. When there was an old man

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Speaker 3: All attempts to me, said, Pops, let me.

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Speaker 2: He said, I know who that is. I've been calling

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Speaker 3: Driving from Chicago to La no communication.

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Speaker 2: He's calling your old house.

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Speaker 3: Sure, hey, man, that was Charlie Atkins, if you would

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Speaker 3: a dance duo call Atkins and Cole tap dancers. He

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Speaker 3: Them there's another world. I saw a whole other world.

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Speaker 2: Whatever.

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Speaker 3: But he introduced me to a lot of people, and

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Speaker 2: And then he died.

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Speaker 3: And I was stuck out there by myself in Detroit.

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Speaker 2: Now you're in Detroit, you're in that light now you're

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Speaker 3: Just went to to do tim but I think Jimmy

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Speaker 3: I got tuned onto Gladys Night and the Pips, and

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Speaker 2: Thirty thirty.

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Speaker 3: I wrote a lot of music, a lot of music,

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Speaker 3: but then my name was really getting out there. I

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Speaker 2: Then against so I became cheesy beggar.

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Speaker 3: I only write where I want to. Yeah, yeah, you

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Speaker 3: know it's nothing wrong with that. Yeah, can relate. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And then you know, all of a sudden, pockets look

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Speaker 2: You know what, you know what I need a couple

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Speaker 3: You know, because I was I was waiting to hear

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah that's all she knew.

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Speaker 3: Because the driver Rose Ruashi, I just gotta look like

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Speaker 2: I was rolling.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah that's well. My kids didn't know any difference.

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Speaker 2: You know, He's just go jump in the car. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: car is a car. Yeah that's that's all I meant

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Speaker 3: It's a rose rice right, don't don't spill nothing back.

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Speaker 3: Then I have to say my kids are wonderful. Oh,

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Speaker 3: my kids are wonderful. Okay, uh, but that was happening.

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Speaker 3: I left Gladys and she she she didn't handle that well,

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Speaker 3: calling me all the time, Dan, would you do this?

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Speaker 2: No, you do this.

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Speaker 3: Finally she called and said, would you do the Nobel

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Speaker 3: Peace Pride?

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Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, I said, okay.

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Speaker 3: She wasn't introducing me to anything because I had already

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Speaker 2: Okay, hello, hello, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, actually we don't know what you said. We've never mentioned,

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Speaker 5: but you know we go. Yeah, Nobel Peace Prize that's

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Speaker 5: also Norway.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, noway on us right now. It's cool, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: You're making me feel very well. See outside of the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, the tout that actually got popstacles and shit

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, a lot of control.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's okay, man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Blessed, that's what I call it, blessed, blessed, and from

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Speaker 3: that God has been on my side because I've never

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Speaker 3: a because she is here. The only thing she knew

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Speaker 3: is Dad is always back in his little office, put

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Speaker 2: I'm busy. I'm busy, busy. Then my little office been

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Speaker 2: for this consopt. I have a real console. You don't

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Speaker 2: hear you? They got a real console. What you got, ye?

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Speaker 2: What you got? And what's what's that guy.

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Speaker 6: Got?

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Speaker 3: Mean?

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Speaker 2: What you got?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: No, that's kids, kids shit.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 3: I can't call her name at the moment, but it's

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Speaker 3: just everything has just been growing. God has just been

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Speaker 2: Dad. This guy's want to meet you with you, okay, ma'am?

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm. So today I'm here, Yeah, and I'm happy

444
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 2: about it. I'm happy about it. Were happy to have you.

445
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I met some wonderful cats since i've been here.

446
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 2: Piece of cake. Let me ask you a question, Yes, sir,

447
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 2: your style of arranging.

448
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of us came up watching admiring

449
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: somebody who Who did you pull from the arrangers that

450
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: you you you heard when you were growing up and

451
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: the music that you were listening to.

452
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: What gave you your like, your style?

453
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 3: What's your brother's name? His name is Edward Kennedy Ellington.

454
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 3: That's Duke Ellington's name. Well, I met mister Ellington and

455
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 3: I think I stood there with my mouth open. It's like,

456
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 3: oh my god, this is Duke Ellington. Yeah, I ain't

457
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 3: even Quincy. I've been working with Quincy, but this is

458
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 3: Duke Ellington to talk to me about twenty thirty minutes.

459
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 3: And he died maybe a month or so after that.

460
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 3: And there was no question that whatever this child is,

461
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 3: the wife was pregnant, it's a boy. He's going to

462
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 3: be named.

463
00:34:55,160 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 2: Duke Ellington. So that particular son, his name ed Would

464
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 2: Kennedy Ellington. Right, Wow, that was my idol. Yeah, it's

465
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 2: my my idol. Okay, slip through, cool.

466
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 3: Ladies, man, smooth talk ship all the time. I think

467
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 3: that's where I got mine from.

468
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 2: I did what what an idol for me?

469
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 3: And you know my countbation whatever. I knew all the Cats.

470
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 3: I knew all of all of the big time, the

471
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 3: big band cats. So I can't help you if you

472
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 3: ask me.

473
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 2: Who I took after the cats?

474
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 3: You name maybe like the sound of Philadelphia whatever? And

475
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 3: what's the catch name out of Philly. And it's amazing

476
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 3: because when they was Cats was describing something and they

477
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 3: said they called it his name and he said.

478
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 2: He said.

479
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 3: Benjamin right, Oh, the boogie Wonderland guy. So all of

480
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 3: the heavies knew me about from from music. Yeah, and

481
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 3: they were giants. Yeah, but maybe I was a giant too.

482
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 3: I didn't know there was writing.

483
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 2: God.

484
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 3: God just touched me. Man, I'm still writing to this day,

485
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 3: to the day. I don't know. You might have some

486
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 3: ship up your sleeve, but I've been blessed.

487
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

488
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: I mean, as you say, giant, you you would have

489
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: had to be a giant. Quincy Jones caused you or

490
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 1: one of the most important projects of all history.

491
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 3: But it wasn't the most important then. Michael Jackson was important,

492
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 3: but he hadn't.

493
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 2: Done any kind of music like what we did. Well.

494
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: It was also.

495
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: It was extremely important for him to be successful at

496
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: that moment in time.

497
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 2: He needed that in a real way.

498
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 3: Okay, but he had Quincy Jones and then he had

499
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 3: you well when she brought me in. But Guency didn't

500
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 3: know what he was getting.

501
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: But think about that though Quincy isn't a arranger himself, right,

502
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 2: oh yeah, superstar. Right. And then but he calls Benjamin

503
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 2: Wright yes to say help me with X, Y and Z.

504
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 2: But he didn't do any writing.

505
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 3: Quency didn't write one note after I came under scene.

506
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 3: He didn't write one note. It's like Benjamin Hey, Benjamin Hey, Benjamin.

507
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 2: Film. That was it?

508
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 3: Could he write? Yes, unbelievable writer. But he fell in

509
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 3: love with how I did whatever. Yeah, and that was

510
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 3: it man up until he died. Mm hmm, I loved

511
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 3: me some Quincy Jones. It's a bad cat.

512
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: Cat asked her about the Bars and your time with

513
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 2: them and the records that she worked on and wrote

514
00:38:59,239 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: with them.

515
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 3: Dubon du Bones was doing an album and Irish Gordy

516
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 3: called me in. Mmmm, I don't fun put these old

517
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 3: hulus oh Man, super hudos. Uh. They used to fight

518
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 3: people song was to fight. It didn't bother me because

519
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 3: I'm always packing.

520
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, yeah yeah, yeah, he was gonna pop one

521
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: of the big The whole family would jump on you.

522
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 2: Yeah I heard, I've heard. I've heard. Yeah, I've heard.

523
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 2: But not me. Yeah, not me. I never gave them

524
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:54,760
Speaker 2: the inkling.

525
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 3: That I would be their next project. Yeah, I know,

526
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 3: even with Bobby before there was the switch.

527
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no no.

528
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 3: I never worried about that. Uh it's a lot of times.

529
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 3: That was the one that what motherfucker can I shoot today?

530
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 3: That's where my head was. But uh, they were cool.

531
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 3: They come to the house, they'll be very orderly, the

532
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 3: whole bed. But then they go to the offices and

533
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 3: the whole bit and they turn over tables and ship

534
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 3: it's just hulums. But not with me, whom we didn't

535
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 3: play that man and y'all made hits, Yeah, got hit.

536
00:40:56,120 --> 00:41:01,439
Speaker 3: I did several hits with the barm and you pissed

537
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 3: your kick.

538
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 2: That's what I do. Yeah. So I just grew. I've

539
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: been growing for years, just.

540
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 3: Growing every year. I haven't been very active in the

541
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 3: last year, but I've still done some work, you know,

542
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 3: so I'm still working, you know. And then I don't

543
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 3: know if you know that or not. But my darling daughter, Ashley, Dad,

544
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 3: I got these guys. I'm going like, okay, what is

545
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 3: this to tell me about your cats?

546
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 2: Dad?

547
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 3: You got to meet him, you know how fast she

548
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 3: talks being the solemn old man that I am. I say,

549
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 3: slomn old man because so everybody knows what's sam. I'm

550
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 3: one birthday from eighty mm hm oh yeah yeah, I'm

551
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 3: way up there.

552
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and I'm still active.

553
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 3: Talking ship mm hmmm. Clearly you do that well mm hmm. Okay,

554
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 3: he's still packing most keep it on most. Okay, all right,

555
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 3: all right, all right, all right, when you come to

556
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 3: the house, I don't know if I'm coming over there.

557
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: I got a fucking machine gun because the man mine

558
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: with me too.

559
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll be respectful, but now I'm not coming

560
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 3: over there without mind.

561
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: I got it.

562
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I got a real machine gun. And

563
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 2: I was in the war too. Thank you for your servant,

564
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 2: thank you so, and I took it from the war.

565
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take this away.

566
00:42:55,719 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I took your saying man, so I never

567
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 3: worry about anything.

568
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 2: I never worry about somebody messing with my daughters and.

569
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 3: My sons. And well we got a son. Your big brother,

570
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 3: Freddie's a senior master chargeant in the army.

571
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 2: And mister bluff.

572
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 3: And if it's anything he wants to do is knock

573
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 3: you out. That's his mentality and he's qualified. Yeah, yeah,

574
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 3: but I've never been that kind of hoodom No, my

575
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 3: days in Chicago and whatever.

576
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 2: You know, I never played the gangster role.

577
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 3: I was always qualified to do it. Yeah, but you know,

578
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 3: I did music man all my life. God has blessed

579
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 3: me to do music.

580
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 2: And you didn't bring that into the music business with

581
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 2: you mhm. But you did what it was in the studio.

582
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 4: I'm about to say, I mean, because you know this

583
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 4: music but is to make you. It'll make you go

584
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 4: there sometimes it'll make you.

585
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 2: Know what I mean.

586
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: You have to remind people, hey, my money was due Thursday.

587
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 1: Well I never had that kind of problem.

588
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 3: Okay, I've never had that kind of problem, never had

589
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 3: a collection problem. I think it's where's my money, that's it.

590
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 3: And I guess because of personalities and a big you know,

591
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 3: I was not somebody to deal with in terms of no,

592
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 3: my music. My money was always there. I'm not trying

593
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 3: to be threatening to anybody that's not me because my kids.

594
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 2: Don't know me that way. Mm hmm, don't you know me.

595
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 2: It's a nice man, That's that's true.

596
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 3: Come on, tell the truth. Because I got nothing but love.

597
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 3: Don't keep all of it. Actually, don't keep all of it.

598
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 3: You know, you got a lot of brothers and sisters.

599
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 2: Thank you. That's fine.

600
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 3: But let me say something about Madam Ashley. She has

601
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 3: opt to create her own way, which I'm proud of.

602
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 3: I'm very proud of. She's somewhat independent. I say somewhat

603
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 3: because I ain't loaning her no more money.

604
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 2: But she knows how to be very frugriate. She can,

605
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 2: she takes care of business. She's she's a hustler. I

606
00:45:58,320 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: love it.

607
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 3: Everybuddy in the household loves Ashley. Everybody and not just

608
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 3: ship back and watch them all. She's gonna have a

609
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 3: problem with the two logirls. She's definitely gonna have big

610
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 3: problems because they didn't even they don't take nothing.

611
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 2: He is gonna get you work, is what he's saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

612
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 4: How do you how do you go from I mean Obviously,

613
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 4: music is it, you know, it's it's it's going to

614
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 4: get you through different things. But your career of like

615
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 4: playing with James Brown all the way that years later writing.

616
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 2: And arranging for justin Timberlake.

617
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 3: First of all, I never wrote for James. I used

618
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 3: to stand on the side of the stage, okay, and

619
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 3: watch him. I used to stand on the side of

620
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 3: the stage and watch his band rehearse. I knew the

621
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 3: music director in the whole bed in the times when

622
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 3: he had four drummers and all of that, you know,

623
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 3: four drummers at the same time, at the same time.

624
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 3: What James was in another world and and and he

625
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 3: never made the rehearsals. The music director to handle everything.

626
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 3: And I was a young cat stand inside the stage watching.

627
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 3: And I remembered when James hired Fred Wesley. You know Fred,

628
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 3: I don't trumball, Okay, okay, it's Fred Wesley. Fred used

629
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 3: to play with a group called the Master Sounds. Fred

630
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 3: played with Count Bassie, He played with Duke Ellington's serious.

631
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 2: It's serious, real real player.

632
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 3: And that was something that James Brown needed because most

633
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 3: of the horn pleasant band couldn't read. Because just play

634
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 3: may see or where heself couldn't read no charts. It's

635
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 3: great soloists in a little bit. But James always had

636
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 3: a music director who was sharp, rehearsal band or whatever.

637
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 3: And I would stand on the side of the stage

638
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 3: and watch, pay attention, pay attention. I learned a lot,

639
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 3: a whole lot, and then I grew into that.

640
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 2: But let me back up.

641
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 3: They threw me out of high school at thirteen years old.

642
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,479
Speaker 3: It threw you out, threw me out. You didn't do nothing,

643
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 3: No threw my black ass out. But I'm not back nothing.

644
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 3: They just they just threw you out. You don't want

645
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 3: your here. It's amazing. If you don't believe me, I'm

646
00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 3: just asking. Okay, let me say it again. They threw

647
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 3: my black ass out. So when they threw you out,

648
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 3: that's how you end up around the music.

649
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 2: Well.

650
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 3: I was playing with the with the high school band

651
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 3: director's band. Okay, he had a little organ. I couldn't

652
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 3: play with the ship. But my big sister had a piano,

653
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 3: great big old piano, and my mother died in her

654
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 3: early forties. My big sister became my mother, but she

655
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 3: would always leave me instructions.

656
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 2: Junior, don't get on my piano.

657
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 3: I couldn't wait for her to leave home, and I

658
00:49:54,000 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 3: called myself jamming, couldn't read. It was good, Yeah, like

659
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 3: a gym on that piano. It got to the point

660
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 3: where I knew I had to learn some music, and

661
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 3: I stopped preparing. Then I remember in Chicago. Anybody here

662
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 3: from Chicago? Okay, they had something on the news a

663
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 3: few days ago about nine degrees below. I went to

664
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 3: the Chicago Conservatory Michigan Avenue when it was nine degrees below.

665
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 2: No car.

666
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 3: And shoes were not qualified for that kind of weather, right,

667
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 3: you walked?

668
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: No.

669
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 2: I caught the.

670
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 3: Train and you know, the bus to the train and

671
00:50:55,280 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 3: trained to downtown Chicago. The good thing is that the

672
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:06,280
Speaker 3: train let me off right under the school. But basically

673
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 3: I had to fight that hog nine degrees below.

674
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 2: I don't miss that. Let me give you this a

675
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:14,479
Speaker 2: quick story.

676
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 3: I walked in there and they say, can I help you?

677
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 3: I see, yes, ma'am. She said, Now this is a

678
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 3: music school, I know, ma'am. Do you know any music? No, ma'am,

679
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 3: but I'm willing to learn. So she looked at me.

680
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 3: It's like wow, and she considered how that weather was outside.

681
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 3: She said, okay, young man, follow me. She took me

682
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 3: to the library of the Chicago Conservatory pull out of

683
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 3: test and he said, oh lord, I know I'm not

684
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 3: gonna make this, but God was on my side, and

685
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 3: I wiped out that test in record time. Now I

686
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 3: had been studying little books and whatever. I took it

687
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 3: back up to her and the first thing she said, oh,

688
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 3: you decided not to take it. I said, I took it.

689
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 3: Let me see what you got. She started looking at

690
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 3: the paper work. I didn't know the name of the

691
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 3: songs in the little book, ma'am. I don't know the

692
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 3: name of your songs, I say, but I can sight

693
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 3: sing him. She perked up, like what, because let's take

694
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 3: number one whatever it was.

695
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 2: He didn't whatever. I read it conci sing number two,

696
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 2: number three, number four. She said. Stop.

697
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 3: This was a Thursday evening school was about to turn

698
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 3: out Chicago Conservatory on Monday morning. I was a student

699
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 3: from Chicago consulvantary tell me God couldn't make it work, absolutely,

700
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 3: and everybody in.

701
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 2: The school knew I was the new guy, and that

702
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 2: was it. Man.

703
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 3: Then the stupid band I was playing with decided that

704
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 3: we should go to Europe.

705
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 2: I didn't want to go to Europe. I'm in school.

706
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 3: They weren't in school, but they could all sight sing

707
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 3: and read a little bit.

708
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 2: But they were all druggies.

709
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 3: I never had drugs in my life, but there was

710
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 3: a band packed my stuff. Went to Europe, and after

711
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 3: about a year we fell out. Motherfucker.

712
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 2: We get back to Chicago. Don't call me.

713
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 3: Don't call me either, motherfucker. I'm like, guys, we need

714
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 3: to stay together. See, I ain't have any money. So

715
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 3: I come back to Chicago, and I took a gig

716
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,760
Speaker 3: at what's called the High Chaparral, which was the biggest

717
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 3: black nightclub in Chicago. Started making money. Hired all of them,

718
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 3: all the guys that were in the band wishing Yeah yeah,

719
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 3: because they were broke.

720
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 2: Hired everybody making money.

721
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 3: Parkers look like footballs every day.

722
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah. And how old are you at this time?

723
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 3: I was still young twenties, but I was creating such

724
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 3: a a big thing in Chicago that the word was

725
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 3: getting to the West coast and spreading. I didn't like L,

726
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 3: but I love the money.

727
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 2: Fat Yeah, fat burgers in Chicago. You know, had in

728
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 2: fat Burger in Chicago, you would have never came to L. No, No,

729
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 2: they owe you some money. Yeah, burgh you some money.

730
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 3: You know it's one down the street.

731
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 2: Make sure he didn't have.

732
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 3: But that's not the same. It is the one that

733
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 3: was on Loss the Street, the street baby los Enica

734
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 3: and Olympic. I think cross the street.

735
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,479
Speaker 2: That was it for me. I knew how to walk

736
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:56,919
Speaker 2: to there.

737
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, those fat Burgers had an you're parting in my

738
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 3: musical career. I'm about to start eating fatback before I

739
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,919
Speaker 3: go to the studio. I remember I was with Taco

740
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 3: Bell frutista.

741
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 4: I don't even think they make those. You know why,

742
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 4: I've been a Taco Bell at bit I work. Go

743
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 4: Checksta's baby. When we was we was at our, it

744
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 4: was it was a little little like slushy drink that

745
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 4: you could get at Taco Bell.

746
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 2: We used to go there. You know, they stay open late.

747
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 2: We're in the studio late. Go there, get your tacos.

748
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 3: Get you get you a little frutista, little strawberry frutista

749
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 3: or something.

750
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 2: Man, if you're doing this so it mixed up a

751
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 2: little vaka if you're feeling it, if you're really feeling somebody,

752
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 2: you know.

753
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 3: No, that's something right there here.

754
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 6: I am.

755
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 2: I'm bout to turn eighty mm hmm. I have never

756
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 2: had a drink in my life. Never had a drink.

757
00:56:54,320 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 3: No, never drink, never smoked, never got hirt, I never

758
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 3: wanted to. Music was on my mind and that's what

759
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:10,399
Speaker 3: I focused on all the time. You know, that's that's ship.

760
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 2: That's it for me. I never had the off stuff,

761
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 2: just just music. Man. That was. You know, I'm a

762
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 2: church kid and alcohol was in the Bible.

763
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: So that's kind of how what I wait, wait, wait,

764
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: let me understand what you know, it's about to take it.

765
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: Time just turned that water to wine. That was that

766
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: was permission to partake.

767
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 2: Amen. He said, don't be drunk with the wine in

768
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 2: the world. But they man, I meane a little taste. Uh. Amen.

769
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 2: I don't care what you said. I to church. I'm

770
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 2: still going to church.

771
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: You know they didn't they didn't switch the wine out

772
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: for grape juice for a long time. You know, I

773
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 1: used to be real wine for communion. You know, this

774
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: doing remembrance of him.

775
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 2: See, so you know, I don't want to go to

776
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 2: that church. I don't want to go to my church.

777
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 2: My church.

778
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: It's cracking at my church. He thinks he's Bishop Cognac,

779
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 1: Bishop Conjac man, Oh my god, we saving him one

780
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: at a time.

781
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 7: We saving him one edits Oh my god, where did

782
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 7: you bring me to today?

783
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 2: A good time? A good time? Mister right, Let me

784
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 2: ask your question, said.

785
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: As I look at your resume, brother, it is it

786
00:58:56,280 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: is vast from from the people you've worked with to

787
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: the awards that you've won. It's incredible. Is is there

788
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: something that you feel like you haven't done yet, or

789
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: something that you wish you had have done you know

790
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 1: at a time that you might have turned something down

791
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: or anything like that.

792
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 2: I never thought of.

793
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 3: Anything like that. Very few products I've turned down, if

794
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 3: I turned them down because the money wasn't right. But

795
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 3: I've been able to maintain a house whole full of children.

796
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 3: That's heavy, Yes, sir, that's real heavy.

797
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: We know.

798
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 2: We got kids. How many brothers and sisters you have?

799
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it is depend on when you asked my dad,

800
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 2: but I'd say fourteen.

801
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 3: Any of us brought up in the same household, now

802
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 3: different ouces, different ouss. We need one sister, one brother.

803
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 3: Smart parents recently, well not necessarily recently, but we had

804
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 3: what ten eleven kids in college at the same time.

805
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 2: She sh oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

806
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 2: what not?

807
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 4: Only your pockets as big as football. Your money is

808
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 4: as long as a football field, is what you tell?

809
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 2: Well? Yes, because.

810
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 3: Nobody needed yeah, and started off with her. She wanted

811
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 3: to go to college.

812
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, okay, college is all around here. Late, Nope, no,

813
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 2: she won't go away.

814
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 3: We'll go away. I availed myself to get on the

815
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 3: plane with her and we went to Hampton as you.

816
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 2: Really well it would, I charge, we're looking for you. Yes,

817
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 2: I did on that Diamond album. You just had your right,

818
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 2: and your right was your right.

819
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 3: I didn't know who outcast was. We had what four

820
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 3: daughters in the house at the time. Andre Benjamin, who

821
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 3: I didn't know, and showed up and the girls are screaming.

822
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 2: What the hell is happening in there? And Benjamin, excuse me?

823
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 3: Who the fuck is Andre Benjamin? By that time, he's

824
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 3: walking through the door into the studio, submiss right, I'm

825
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 3: Andre Benjamin.

826
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm Benjamin too, Let's get it straight. It was

827
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 2: a nice cat.

828
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 3: And he talked to me about doing a piece of music,

829
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 3: but he wanted a Frank Sinatra vibe. And I think

830
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 3: I remember the young man. You don't know nothing about

831
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 3: Frank Sinatra, what you got, and this is what he had,

832
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 3: some say.

833
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 2: Atlanta, some saying New York.

834
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 3: I'm waiting. He had nothing else.

835
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 2: What the hell is this?

836
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 3: Okay, that's when I started writing. That's the intro to

837
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 3: what's the song below?

838
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 2: Love Below? So you guys have heard.

839
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 3: Lots of strings and whatever.

840
01:02:55,840 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 4: M h.

841
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 3: I had to say, Damn, that's one hell of an intro. Yeah,

842
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 3: that's how the album opened. Uh.

843
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 2: And I did I think what two or three more

844
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 2: songs on that album? I don't know what they were,

845
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 2: but it was cool.

846
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 3: My music was cool, cool enough for Grammys. I think,

847
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 3: Oh it went past Grammage, didn't it.

848
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? Do you know how many Grammys you have? How

849
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 2: you lost count?

850
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 3: I don't fancy she did that.

851
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 2: It's quite a few. Yeah. But hey man, I'm just writing,

852
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Just seeing.

853
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 3: Check, yes, sir, And that's it. Yeah, that's it, and

854
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 3: it's writing. We's a check check. One thing I can

855
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 3: say is that I haven't been cheap. I haven't been cheap.

856
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 2: I had to have the money. HiT's cost. It's cost.

857
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 2: It costs. People didn't know that prior to it being right, right,

858
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 2: But you have so many and you've done so much.

859
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 3: I feel very confident about whatever it is doing.

860
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know.

861
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 3: So when I talk about my kids, Kisney shoes, Kisney shoes, Shoes'

862
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 3: gonna put together some shoe money for the next time

863
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 3: we need you on something. We're gonna put together some

864
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 3: shoe money for you.

865
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 2: Man. I hear that shoe money. Not necessarily big shoes, but.

866
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 3: Just bike shoe money money. Yeah, yeah, dah, I'm down

867
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 3: with that.

868
01:04:56,480 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 1: What you got over there, Tank you know he's you know,

869
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 1: eloquent on strings and horns. I do a little something

870
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 1: with this this cassio ya where keep e flat? Another

871
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 1: Benjamin Wright. We we've heard the stories and the tales

872
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 1: of your wonders and your greatness from all over the world.

873
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 1: You're world renowned, and the people want to know of

874
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 1: all the music you've heard, of all the music you've made.

875
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 1: They really want to tap into the mind, mister Benjamin Wright.

876
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 2: We call this Picolo chief, your.

877
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 6: Top ah, your top five, top fires, your top I

878
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 6: would believes, NTO and song.

879
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 2: We've got to know for you, b when on on

880
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 2: this show, everybody want they want to know. Yes, no, don.

881
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 6: You're t.

882
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 1: F o.

883
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. Be flat mm hmmm mm hmmm. Uh huh

884
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 2: be flat bass, be flat bass.

885
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what you're plan Yeah.

886
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 2: Oh you're going you're going perfect on me.

887
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 3: Huh, Hello, I know what you're doing.

888
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know what you're doing, babe. See my

889
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 2: m h m hm hm yeah, mm hmmmm h change

890
01:07:49,200 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 2: something getting slick. It's testing me. It's testing me. Okay,

891
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 2: who is your top five R and B singers?

892
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm mm hmmm.

893
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 2: I have to go back. Okay, woman mm hm.

894
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 3: Woman used to be at the house of in Van

895
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 3: Eyes at the house yeah, woman, Johnny guitar watching you sure,

896
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 3: Johnny guitar watching drove drove a stuts.

897
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 2: Bear Okay. Woman had been oh Bentley huh yeah he did.

898
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:48,640
Speaker 2: And I had a.

899
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 3: Roach yes yeah, yeah, yes you did. And the police

900
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 3: is parked on both corners of the street.

901
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 2: All night long. They think y'all doing something. Oh yeah,

902
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 2: you know.

903
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 3: And I have to have to tell woman, you can't

904
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 3: bring all this dope in my house. Man, I just

905
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 3: said it wasn't nothing, you got it. I just got

906
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:22,599
Speaker 3: it on you in the Bentley full of dope.

907
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:27,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. I never drank, I never smoke, I never got high.

908
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 2: When but Johnny gets high.

909
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 3: Johanny could tell Watson and Womack was off to change.

910
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 3: It's like you got a trunk full of dope. Man,

911
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 3: you can't bring that ship to my house, my kids

912
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 3: and whatever here. Man, alright, all right, man.

913
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:54,679
Speaker 2: To tomorrow night, till tomorrow night. Right full of dope.

914
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 3: But these were my friends, these these were my buddies.

915
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, we know a couple of those things.

916
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 3: We get it, we get it. We got we got

917
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 3: some mommies that you know, they like the party. They

918
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 3: gotta have they got to have it. I don't know

919
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 3: if they got a trunk for Okay, so we.

920
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 4: Got we got. We got Bobby Womack, who number two?

921
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:18,639
Speaker 4: Who number two? R and B singers okay, male are female?

922
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 3: Okay, let's take the spinners.

923
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.

924
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 3: And what's the lead lead sing the one that takes

925
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 3: it the end?

926
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 2: Every time I can't call his name. He died John.

927
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 3: Well, no, John.

928
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 2: They was just got on the scene three days ago.

929
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 1: Bobby fit oh, Philip, Philip Philippe Win Yeah, Philip, yeah, yeah, yeah,

930
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 1: throw he's scrolling, he's going yeah, Phelipe win Yeah.

931
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:55,679
Speaker 3: It's the bad singing. Yeah, we need three more heard

932
01:10:55,800 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 3: to the great fun Motown Marvin Gate marvemy Gay, Yes, sir,

933
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 3: thank you, sir, Yes, sir.

934
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 2: Bad cat. That's what I'm talking about.

935
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 3: Most people don't know Bobby in terms of him going

936
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:17,719
Speaker 3: into his gospel thing. Bobby was a church man. Yeah,

937
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 3: and I got to my old running buddy when I

938
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 3: was with the Temptations, Dennis Shedwards tennis. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

939
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 3: Dennis said Wards, it's always locked mm hmmm, pow mhm

940
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 3: and just don't hit the man no more.

941
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 2: Let me sit laught. He was a lunatic. Don't look

942
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:51,679
Speaker 2: any I don't know any.

943
01:11:54,439 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 3: Yes, you take nothing. It's like like three or four

944
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 3: boxes at the same time. Good thing about it. That

945
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 3: was my buddy, so I could get in trouble and

946
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 3: not worry about it because then it's gonna knock them.

947
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 2: It's coming through. Is that five now one more? We

948
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:22,720
Speaker 2: need one more, We need one more, one more?

949
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 3: Sham Cook, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a cold five. That's

950
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 3: a cold five. That line up right there is tough.

951
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 2: Sham Cook was in another world. Yeah.

952
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 1: Your top five R and B songs. You can name

953
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:43,560
Speaker 1: your own songs too if you want to them. Just

954
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:46,719
Speaker 1: throwing it out there. You got some heavy tunes, heavy

955
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 1: tunes Jack some smokers, smokers Jack.

956
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 2: Well, I've done a lot of them. Yeah, you can

957
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 2: name it.

958
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 3: I just can't sit here and.

959
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 2: Just run them off. We want to go and rock

960
01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 2: with you.

961
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 3: Are we want to go with He was fine fun. Yeah,

962
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 3: we're going boogie wonder Land boogie.

963
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 2: Can we get Can we get somebody? All this love

964
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:17,640
Speaker 2: or dream? Which was all this loves waiting for you?

965
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 3: That's the BArch Heads, Bobby, the barge was Hulu, not all.

966
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 2: It was more. He was more chill. It was a kid. Yeah,

967
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 2: but you said they used to jump on people. They did.

968
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 2: As a family, they did. But Elder BArch was kid,

969
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 2: laid back.

970
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 3: But Bobby, some of the mother brothers, they're getting down.

971
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 2: They jump on the booger Bear. Booger Bear, jump on bear.

972
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 2: Is that a bad composed of Bookers? They just want

973
01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 2: to fight because Booger Bear is the scariest bead. Most high.

974
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 2: I have never drank, never smoked, never been high. I

975
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:17,679
Speaker 2: don't play that. It was the Church War, the ro Hits.

976
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,560
Speaker 3: We got two more songs, Rock with you, Rock with you.

977
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 3: All this loves love are a dream. If you want

978
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 3: to throw that in there too.

979
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 2: I wrote a onto me seller a bunch of million

980
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 2: dollars selling.

981
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:39,760
Speaker 3: Grammys, my song, my song. Yeah, uh all this love

982
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 3: is weirding for you a thousand ways you Yeah, okay, that's.

983
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:52,640
Speaker 2: For a slow wine. That's my joint Slow.

984
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 3: Wine Anniversary is crazy too. You know social very good songs.

985
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 3: Get so I did good music on him. You know what,

986
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,879
Speaker 3: you brought me over here as a senior citizen.

987
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 2: We're just gonna use your songs. Yeah, we're using your

988
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 2: We're using your We're using five of your records you

989
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 2: named boogie and you put me on the spot because

990
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 2: I've just done too much work. I can't. We got it,

991
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 2: we got it, we got it. What's next? Yeah, what's next? Trying?

992
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:38,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, we're making We're making a super R and

993
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 1: B artist, right, and so what we're doing is we're

994
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 1: grabbing pieces of artists from the beginning of time all

995
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 1: the way up to now to make your super R

996
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 1: and B artists. So you're gonna have to pick one artist, well, Jackie, no, no,

997
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 1: jack You got to pick one artist for the vocal.

998
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:02,879
Speaker 1: You gotta pick one artist for the performance on stage,

999
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 1: one artist for uh for the drip the styling of

1000
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 1: the artist, and then one artist for the passion of

1001
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,680
Speaker 1: the artist, and then you got to pick somebody to

1002
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 1: arrange for that artist. So if you're picking one vocal

1003
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 1: to build your super R and B artist, what vocal

1004
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 1: are you picking?

1005
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 2: Who is it? Marvin?

1006
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1007
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like where you're going already, You picking one

1008
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:36,679
Speaker 2: performance style on stage? Who you Pickingie Jackie Will Jackie

1009
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:40,719
Speaker 2: Wilson love that you you're picking the styling of the artists.

1010
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 2: What that we got? You got on the two piece

1011
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 2: red right now? Who put who put that? Who put

1012
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 2: that ship on?

1013
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 8: As we say right now? Hmmm he used to put

1014
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 8: it on? Oh yeah, he was flying? Yeah, okay, so

1015
01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:57,639
Speaker 8: we got.

1016
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 2: Okay, the passion of the artists like the hardest, I mean,

1017
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 2: who means it from their soul? Sam Cook? Yes, sir, yes, sir, okay,

1018
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 2: all right.

1019
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:11,600
Speaker 1: And last one, it is a special one for you.

1020
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 1: Who's gonna Who's gonna compose and do the arrangements and

1021
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 1: right for that artist?

1022
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 2: His name was like Benjamin Wright. Yeah, set me up,

1023
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 2: shut me up.

1024
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1025
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 1: If they want to sales means and records, if they

1026
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:34,440
Speaker 1: want to add in football pockets.

1027
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 4: I'm saying that from now from now, how you doing

1028
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 4: you know about pockets? Biggest football?

1029
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 3: I'm doing all right.

1030
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 2: Too much? I would do one. We got one, we

1031
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 2: got one more, we got one more section, more section

1032
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 2: for one more section. All right, but you got champ.

1033
01:17:54,080 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 2: Uh there is. I ain't saying no names. I ain't

1034
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:06,720
Speaker 2: saying no names. I ain't saying no names. I ain't

1035
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:07,559
Speaker 2: saying no names.

1036
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 9: Who he was?

1037
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 2: And who's win?

1038
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 3: What you did?

1039
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 2: Don't say she.

1040
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 9: Ain't saying no names? Yeah, yeah, amen, amen.

1041
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 4: So we had we had a very important part of

1042
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 4: the show. Will you tell us a story that's either

1043
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 4: funny or fucked up? Are funny and fucked up?

1044
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. The only rule to this game is you

1045
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 2: can't say the names. Not a one.

1046
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna name. Okay, okay, you Benjamin, right man,

1047
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 3: we die. You do whatever you want. I threatened to

1048
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 3: kick Zans on stage, all right, all right physically?

1049
01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 2: Mm hmm? What punked out?

1050
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 3: Oh he didn't want it. He was a very decent boxer. Okay, legit,

1051
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 3: you ain't wanna fuck with me because that was a hoop.

1052
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 2: But why'd you want to whoop him? He said? Some

1053
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 2: funny ship. He wasn't having it. I didn't do much fighting,

1054
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 2: Yes I did. Yeah, I'm about to say, you can't cattle,

1055
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 2: can't take that back. I heard you.

1056
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 3: I heard you already take that back because that was

1057
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 3: always in some ship.

1058
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she.

1059
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:42,560
Speaker 3: Was a legitimate boxer and he tried to carry that everywhere.

1060
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 2: M m mmm, No that he ain't saying.

1061
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 1: No, Well, you said a name, We're gon we're gonna

1062
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 1: bleep out, We're gonna bleep out his name up, don'ta

1063
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 1: bleep out his name.

1064
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 2: That's what I said.

1065
01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 4: This is this one, very legendary R and B singer,

1066
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 4: and yeah, tried to test you almost got his ass.

1067
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 4: Well it almost got it. Yeah, head blowing off.

1068
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 2: You have that thing on you.

1069
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's probably why he said. You know what

1070
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 4: he said, I'm not gonna fight Benjamin. He's gonna probably

1071
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 4: shoot me on this dage.

1072
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 2: They play too much. He'd be playing. I always have

1073
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 2: a piece. I carried a piece I have.

1074
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:26,680
Speaker 3: God has blessed me to back away to use it.

1075
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:29,679
Speaker 3: I've been blessed God.

1076
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 2: Thank you Lord. Well, God has blessed us today for

1077
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:34,599
Speaker 2: you to pull up. Period.

1078
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,879
Speaker 4: We we really appreciate this man. This has been amazing

1079
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 4: for us. You're telling you your stuff.

1080
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 3: You buying lunch.

1081
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 2: Of course he's buying lunch. Were chipping in, Yeah, chipping in?

1082
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 2: We got lunch, all the fat burgers you want, all

1083
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:54,719
Speaker 2: of that's what you're saying. We got some football podcasts

1084
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:59,720
Speaker 2: over here about so.

1085
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 1: No, brother Benjamin, right, this is uh we we we

1086
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:07,720
Speaker 1: thank you man, this is this has been legendary man,

1087
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 1: and it's ship. It's the reason why we hear all

1088
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:13,720
Speaker 1: the work you've done. Thank you has given us a

1089
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 1: has given us a space platform, It's carved out a

1090
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 1: road for us to walk on. So we we thank

1091
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 1: you for your foundation, man. Absolutely, And and and I

1092
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 1: remember you said you were just making the music and

1093
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 1: and I don't think anybody had any idea that it

1094
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Speaker 1: would be what it's going to be. But I'm glad

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Speaker 1: that we're able to and the people watching and all

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01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 1: over the world are able to understand who and what

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01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:44,720
Speaker 1: you are in the foundation that you've laid for all

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01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 1: of this, and that you're able to get your flowers.

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Speaker 2: Man, we we we we love that. It's great. Thank

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Speaker 2: you absolutely, ladies and gentlemen. I'm Jay Valentine and this

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Speaker 2: is the R and B Money Pot Cast. The authority

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01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 2: on all things R and B.

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Speaker 3: They can't tell me nothing nothing. I had Benjamin Right

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01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 3: hanging out today. They can't tell me nothing.

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Speaker 1: The Benjamin Right, Yes, don't smoke, he got smoke with

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01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:23,240
Speaker 1: him all the time, and be right.

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Speaker 2: Penciling in the right hand right. Don't put and don't

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01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 2: put his business in the streets. Play the gentlemen. B.

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Speaker 2: Mister Benjamin B.