WEBVTT - Matteuccia di Francesco: The Woman Who Could Fly 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:06.400 Welcome to Criminalia, a production of Shonda Land Audio in 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:16.160 partnership with I Heart Radio. Imagine one day your local 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:19.759 pharmacist is arrested and accused of drinking the blood of 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:24.000 infants and flying to an orgy involving the devil. Welcome 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:28.240 to Criminalia. I'm Maria Marquis and I'm Holly Fry. Let's 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:34.640 talk about that pharmacist. Matteuccia di Francesco Matteuccia was born 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:38.760 in in the small village of Ripa Bianca in the 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:42.559 Province of Perugia in the Umbria region of Italy, and 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:46.280 at this time in Italian history, most people were living 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:49.879 in rural servitude and when she was born, the average 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:54.040 life expectancy was thirty to thirty five years. Most people 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:58.240 were not formally educated, and most of them were very superstitious. 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:01.720 Other than her place of birth, we don't really know 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:05.160 anything about her childhood. In fact, we don't meet up 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:08.479 with her in history until she's accused of practicing witchcraft. 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:11.720 Her witch trial was one of the earliest recorded witch 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:15.080 trials in Europe, but what really makes it stand out 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:18.000 is that it's considered the first case where an alleged 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:23.160 witch is accused of flying during her lifetime. Actually from 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:26.080 the early fourteenth century all the way up until sixteen 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:30.120 fifty or so, it's estimated that between two hundred thousand 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:34.280 and five hundred thousand alleged witches were executed in Europe, 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:39.679 or more of them were women. Experts believe, of course, 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:42.880 that most were wrongfully accused of their crimes, and those 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:46.920 accused and convicted were often happening during cases of mass 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:51.800 hysteria and fear about pagan practices and the embellished stories 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:56.840 told about them. Perceptions about Western witchcraft and sorcery began 0:01:56.920 --> 0:02:00.760 to change during around the eleventh cent tree, which puts 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:05.320 us around two hundred years before Matteuccia was born. Ideas 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:09.040 about the magical arts had transformed from pagan practice into 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:14.520 an intertwined association between those practices, heresy, and the devil. 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:17.840 This meant that charges of practicing these offenses were tried 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:21.560 in court as malevolent sorcery, as they already had been, 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:25.960 but now they also came with the additional charges of diabolism. 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:30.600 We've really started this season to see some identifying criteria 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:34.400 used by locals and witch hunters, although it's still pretty 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:38.120 early in terms of really seeing a pattern just yet. 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:40.600 But here's what we've learned so far when it comes 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:44.800 to identifying a witch. First, we can all probably tell 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:47.959 from the numbers of deaths. If the individual was a woman, 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:51.600 she could be a witch. And if she had a pet, 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:55.920 and not necessarily the stereotypical black cat, she could be 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:59.760 a witch. If she had a wart, she could be 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:03.640 a witch. If she was middle aged somewhere around forty, 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:07.360 or perhaps even a little older, she could be a witch. 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:10.320 If she lived alone, it could be argued she was 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:13.760 undermining the sacrament of marriage and the eyes of the church, 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:16.160 and of course that meant she could be a witch. 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:19.600 And finally, if you'd gotten in any sort of argument 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:23.000 with her and something bad happened to you afterward, come on, 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:28.040 she's surely a witch. From the four through the eighteen centuries, 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:32.280 there were some really wild superstitions about witches, which is, 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:35.680 we're believed to renounce God and instead worship the devil, 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:39.560 and that meant things like selling one's soul in exchange 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:43.119 for the devil's assistance and summoning demons to carry out 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:47.440 magical deeds. It was also believed in Manti Yuccia's trial 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.480 is considered the first recorded instance of this belief. As 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:53.560 we said earlier, that which has had the ability to 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:57.240 fly through the air, You might hear subtle differences in 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:00.480 this story. Some flu on broomsticks, which is really the 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:03.680 classic which vehicle, I would say, or on the back 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:06.240 of a goat, or even on the back of a demon, 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:11.720 But witches, make no doubt about it could fly. Some 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:14.920 people also believed that witches had sex with the devil 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:19.640 and engaged in orgies during their secret meetings. Some believe 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:22.719 that the accused were capable of shape shifting from human 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:26.359 to animal form, or just from human form to another 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:30.320 human form. As we mentioned earlier, there were rumors that 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:33.760 witches who had pets kept those animals as their familiars 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:36.920 to do their evil bidding. And it was also believed 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:39.600 that these so called witches were known to kidnap and 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:43.520 murder infants and children for the purpose of drinking their blood, 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:48.360 eating them, or rendering their fat into magical ointments, or 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:52.360 perhaps all of the above. Sure, it's naive not to 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:55.640 think that some people practiced sorcery with the intent to 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:59.119 harm others, or as some people did worship the devil. 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:03.240 The crime of witchcraft were defined and within those definitions 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:08.520 which hunts began to gain popularity, frequently encouraged by priests, judges, 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.799 and local authorities who may or may not have studied 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:16.000 theology or law. These so called experts believed there were 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:19.200 witches in their society and that that evil needed to 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:22.599 be expelled. We're going to take a break for a 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:25.159 word from our sponsor, and when we come back, we 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:28.440 will talk about what a wise woman was and why 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:39.360 she would have been so important to her village. Welcome 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:43.640 back to Criminalia. Let's meet mate Uchia. Mistress of herbs 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:49.960 and protector of abused women. So Madauccia was known as 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:53.400 a domino or barum that literally means the mistress of herbs, 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:56.320 which is kind of a fabulous title. As an expert 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:59.040 of herbs, she likely would have worked as an apothecary, 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.760 or at least in a similar capacity, doing things like 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:05.840 preparing ointments and herbal teas to heal ailments and injuries, 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:10.040 perhaps with the recitation of a few magic words and 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:12.960 amusing your quotes. It's more ritual at that point, probably 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:17.920 than magical. She also provided aid for abused women. Word 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:21.839 about Matthiuchia's herbal remedies and potions spread and her client 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:25.360 base began to grow. To be honest, most of her 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:29.320 advice was pretty harmless, although some of her concoctions may 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:32.880 have seemed strange to some. So imagine, for example, a 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:36.400 salve made out of radish, garlic, wormwood, and a few 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:39.960 other herbs thrown in boiled in butter, strained, and then 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:42.960 given to you to cure your headaches. This may all 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:45.960 seem very odd, but to the people of her village, 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:49.960 if it worked, it worked. Domina of Barum was what 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:53.680 was known as a wise woman. A wiseman was a 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:56.880 woman who was well versed in the use of herbs, charms, 0:06:56.960 --> 0:07:00.800 maybe fortune telling, and often she also of her babies. 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:04.800 Most people in medieval times never actually saw a doctor, 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:08.200 but they absolutely went to their local wise woman or 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:13.080 wise man. They had basically three options for healthcare. One 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:16.360 was the power of prayer. Too, they could seek out 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:19.360 a monastery with monks or nuns with knowledge of herbal remedies. 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:22.560 Or three, they could visit the local wise woman who 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:26.240 was skilled in the use of herbs. During the Middle Ages, 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:30.600 physicians were trained to observe palpitate, take a patient's pulse 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:35.320 and do a urine examination, but apothecaries and wise women 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:38.240 and wise men were able to practically apply more than 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:42.360 six hundred plants for medicinal use. You can thank Diascordies, 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:45.920 a Greek physician, pharmacologist, botanist, and the author of De 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:51.480 Materia Medica. That's a five volume Greek encyclopedia about herbal medicine. 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:54.960 It was referred to for more than fifteen hundred years, 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:59.480 but like many old documents, the original text is lost. Luckily, 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:03.360 there are many surviving copies the detail how plants were 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:07.280 used for specific disorders, while others were credited with curing 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:11.360 multiple diseases. His writings were the basis of pretty much 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:15.679 all the herbal medicine practiced in Matti Yucci's lifetime. Apothecaries 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:20.120 were highly valued medical professionals. Today, that work has been 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:23.920 synthesized and edited, and today's version of it is widely 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:28.600 attributed to Hippocrates. Matta Yucci's work as a wise woman 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:32.760 though left her accused of being quote a woman of 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:36.960 a bad life and reputation, public and enchantress, sorceress, evil 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:40.840 spell caster, and which the records of her trial detail 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:44.200 the charms she used and her specialties seemed to have 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:47.880 been healing prayers, and she definitely could throw down a 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:51.760 love spell. Her primary client, how for those love spells, though, 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:55.160 according to her trial record, were women who wanted men 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:58.720 to love them, as you'd expect, but she also used 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:01.720 them to help women in abuse of relationships or women 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:06.280 who had been abandoned by their partners. Among her clients 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:09.760 was Braccia da Montone, a renowned leader of bands of 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:14.800 mercenary soldiers and lord of a vast territory which included Perugia. 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:18.679 He fought in many battles, and he was almost always victorious. 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:21.400 We do not know how these two people met, but 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:24.800 he was friendly with Matteucia and not always friendly to 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:28.640 the pope. You can see where that might cause a problem. 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:32.199 Experts think their friendship may have been a contributing factor 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:35.440 in what ultimately led to her arrest and spoiler alert, 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:39.440 her execution. Although it was rare before the year fourteen 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:44.920 hundred for witchcraft crimes to specifically be prosecuted, the increasingly 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:48.720 common persecution of heresy made way for later criminal charges 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:54.199 against sorcery. The inquisitors who arrested Matteucia expected to find 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:59.640 supernatural diabolism for enchantments and other magical arts. But they 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:03.640 didn't I mean not really, but inquisitors always made sure 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:07.120 to find what they were looking for. So we're gonna 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:09.560 once again take a break for a word from our sponsor, 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:13.679 and when we return, we will go to Matteuccia's trial, 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:17.160 where it was claimed that she was quote instigated by 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:29.360 a diabolical spirit. Welcome back to Criminalia. Let's talk about 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:33.160 how this wise woman found herself accused of having flown 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:37.839 on a goat. Matticia's trial was conducted in Tody at 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:42.640 the Tribunale Malai, which translates into English as the Court 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:46.480 of Evildoers. It's a pretty great name, but to be clear, 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:49.920 it was a terrible place. The historical records are still 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:54.600 preserved today at the Municipal Historical Archives, and hers is 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:57.520 one of the oldest witchcraft cases in Italy for which 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:01.600 a complete trial record survives. Her court record states that 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:04.680 her case was brought to trial after complaints from local 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:09.800 quote reputable men, complaints of who, what, when or where. 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:13.480 None of that is included. What we know of her 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:17.000 trial is that she was charged with upwards of thirty counts, 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:21.959 including some very specific things, the crime of having persuaded 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:24.280 one of Braccio's men to gather the flesh of a 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:27.160 drowned man to prepare an oil to heal the wounds 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:31.480 of a patient, of having drunk the blood of many infants, 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:35.640 of being able to turn into a cat, and having 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:38.960 flown on a goat to the famous note de Benevento, 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:42.640 which translates into English as the walnut tree of Benevento. 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:46.480 So I want to sidestep for a second and just 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:50.040 digress into a discussion about the legend of this walnut 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:53.880 tree of Benevento, because it was recorded during the trial 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:56.640 as a place where which is gathered every Saturday night 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:59.760 on the banks of the river Savato in Benevento. It's 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:02.560 just north of Naples, and they would dance around this 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:06.760 walnut tree in the presence of the devil. In addition 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:12.040 to providing her apothecary services, which her accusers characterized as enchantment, 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:17.200 Matiucia was also accused of flying in through people's windows 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:20.480 and sucking the life out of children sometimes though that's 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:23.960 reported as sucking the blood out of children, but really 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:27.920 either way. Some sources report she was accused of being 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:31.080 a sex worker, as well as having committed desecration with 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:35.079 other women. One source also mentioned her being a nun. 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:38.680 We can't confirm any of that, so take those with 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:41.960 a grain of salt. It's said in some records that 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:45.800 Bernardino dos Siena also pressed charges against her, although if 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:49.120 he did, it is unclear what the specific charge was. 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:54.080 Bernardino Dosciana was an Italian priest and Franciscan missionary who 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:56.920 was known as the Apostle of Italy. He was eventually 0:12:56.920 --> 0:13:00.560 made a saint, and he frequently preached against so called 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:07.280 wickedness such as sorcery, gambling, witchcraft, homosexuality, and heresy, weaving 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:10.240 all of that into local legend and folklore. And he 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:13.240 became a very popular man in his own lifetime, and 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:18.360 when he preached, large crowds gathered. When it came to witchcraft, 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:22.959 he frequently preached and will quote, there is nothing better 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:26.360 to do than cry to the fire, to fire to 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:30.280 the fire, and by fire he meant witches were to 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:33.360 be burned at the stake, and that means burned alive. 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:37.439 He had visited Doughty as recently as that same year 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:40.959 or within two years prior, sharing these very same beliefs 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:46.360 with Mattiuchia's fellow villagers. So there is a description of 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:48.760 one of his speeches, and it paints quite a picture, 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:52.760 so we're going to read it. Quote. The turmoil was large, 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:56.040 and the people trembled. The church and Piazza Santa Croce 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:59.880 was full of citizens and peasants, women and men, several 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:03.480 thousands in number. The shouting of little children and young 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:07.160 boys was loud when Friar Bernardino stopped preaching and went 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:10.080 to the piazza with many other fryers and set on 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:14.079 fire a pile of four tables of games, several baskets 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:17.600 of dice, more than four thousand pairs of old and 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:21.359 new card games of great numbers, And placed and attached 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:24.960 and hung on every side were much hair and flounces 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:27.880 of dresses of women and other things, and with a 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:31.440 lot of wood underneath. You have never seen a more 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:34.800 beautiful fire. And the flames spread in the air and 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:39.960 confused the demon enemy of God. Let's talk more about 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:45.480 Matuccia's trial. Court records also report how she and will 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:50.320 quote here, enchanted the body head or other limbs of patients. 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:53.440 The fact was, though in this court it really didn't 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:56.560 matter if her patient had become gravely ill or died, 0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:00.800 or if she had cured their illness rather than reading disease, 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:04.640 she would still be held guilty of practicing witchcraft. It 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:09.880 didn't matter either way. Matteuci confessed to several things, although 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:14.320 it's really unclear if her confession happened under torture. Torture, 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:16.360 as we know, is a common practice at this time 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:20.320 in history. She confessed to having sold medicine, but she 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:23.160 also confessed to having flown on the back of a 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:27.440 demon or possibly a goat, after having smeared herself with 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:31.840 an ointment made of the blood of newborn children. Mattiucia 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:36.880 was quote instigated by a diabolical spirit. Specifically in the 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:42.200 trial record, the phrase is Malamale's addendo diabolico spiritu instigata, 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:46.560 which translates into English as adding evil to evil inspired 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:50.160 by the demonic spirit, and that phrase was added to 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:55.400 the tale of almost all of the paragraphs detailing Matteuccia's crimes, 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:58.040 just to be sure we all knew that her crimes 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:00.120 were of the Black Arts and that she was in 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:03.840 league with the devil. While reading her trial record is 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:07.920 historically interesting, it's it's also a document that is absolutely 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:12.160 not in her favor, and neither was her trial. Matteuccia 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:15.560 didn't have any form of defense. She did not serve 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:17.880 as her own defense. She had no one to stand 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:22.880 up for her. She testified, likely it filtered through interrogators 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:26.560 that she had had involvement with quote ghosts who came 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:29.280 to her as a remedy to procure a pagan bone, 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:33.120 that is, of those buried without baptism, the bodies of 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:36.440 drowned persons to obtain fat with which, after having cooked 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:41.120 the meat, to create a liquor. Mattiacia confessed to the 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:44.360 crime she was accused of as we said, and unsurprisingly, 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:47.720 she was found quote guilty of having carried out her 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:52.840 criminal activity in a continuous and aggravated manner. On March, 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:57.480 at age forty, she was burned alive in the Perusian 0:16:57.560 --> 0:17:02.800 town of Tody. Inspired by Bernardino da Siena, Tody tightened 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:07.840 up witchcraft laws right around the time Matteuccio was executed, 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:13.040 and they implemented a zero tolerance stance. We're gonna quote 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:17.359 de Siana here wherever one may be, he stated, and 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:20.879 whoever may know him or her in any place whatsoever, 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:25.280 inside or outside the city straightaway accused her before the inquisitor. 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:30.000 Every which every wizard, every sorcerer or sorceress, or worker 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:33.800 of charms and spells, such enchanters, every time they have 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:37.240 worked any charms or spells, have denied God by doing so, 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:45.760 and he packed the house. We always end on a 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:48.520 net on, like a down note, Holly, So, and it's 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:52.679 usually someone's death. Um, so let's drink to perhaps a 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:55.320 happier time. What do you have for us today? Okay, 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:58.879 so I'm gonna confess that first for today's cauldron, I 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:02.400 thought about trying to make a drink somehow inspired by 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:11.679 a goat, but I abandoned that line of thinking because 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:15.520 it was going to bad places. But what I there 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:17.679 were a few things that I really loved. I obviously 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:22.359 love the phrase diabolical spirit which comes up, and I 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:24.400 like that there's kind of a double on ponder there, 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:28.440 and then spirits can refer to alcohols. So I came 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:31.040 up with a drink that I'm calling the diabolical Spirit 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:34.960 and what it actually reverences. And this is a little gross, 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:39.040 but I promised the drink is delicious. Are the allegations 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:41.800 that she drank blood? Guess what You're never going to 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:43.800 get a bloody marry anything out of me because I 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:46.720 do not like them, and I think tomato juice is, 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:49.880 oh my god, how do we even know each other? 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:53.880 I don't know. Well it shows over we just never 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:57.440 have to share drinks, really is the case? Right? It 0:18:57.520 --> 0:19:00.919 works out great all the time. You're gonna want this 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:04.240 one though. So this is of course a beautiful, beautiful 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:09.920 red color, and it's got a very surprisingly complex flavor. 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:13.159 It's absolutely lovely. So you're gonna start it's simple to 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:16.600 put together three quarters of an ounce of grenadine. You're 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:19.479 gonna do a half ounce of lemon juice, and then 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:23.760 you're gonna add an ounce of gin and three quarters 0:19:23.800 --> 0:19:27.080 of an ounce of amoretto. And to all of that 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:30.840 you will add three ounces of pomegranate juice. You can 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:32.879 shake that all up, or you can stir it up 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:36.440 and you end up. It's thick, and it looks very 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:39.200 much like blood. That pomegranate juice has such a deep 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:42.640 flavor and a deep color that it looks very bloody. 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:44.600 So it looks like blood. It's rich and taste, it's 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:48.240 full of antioxidants. That is the diabolical spirit. It is 0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:51.840 really delicious. I will say it is a lot of 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:55.639 flavor and it is quite sweet. So if you wanted 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:58.240 to cut it, you could also pour in some club 0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:00.560 soda and just you know, bring it down a little bit. 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:02.880 If you want to do the mocktail version, it's super 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:05.800 duper easy. You're gonna do all of the same stuff, 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:09.960 but you're going to skip the gin obviously, and use 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:13.359 almond syrup in lieu of vamoretto. And here's what I 0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:16.359 would do, because there is a cool thing that happens 0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:20.200 to your nose and your palette when you're drinking it, 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:23.640 because you do get those that scent of gin, even 0:20:23.640 --> 0:20:26.320 though the flavor of it is not particularly strong and 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:30.560 it I would add a garnish of rosemary. Get a 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:32.879 nice sprig of rosemary and stick it in your glass 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:35.440 for the mocktail, because you're still going to get that 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:39.399 that aromatic experience of smelling something that is herbalal and 0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:42.119 has like a little pungent bite to it, but it 0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:46.199 is also very beautiful and it makes the mocktail very delicious. 0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:49.080 We did a u and it may have been in 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:54.960 the first season Catherine, perhaps did you give her a 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:59.720 bloody cocktail? As well. Yes, you were talking about the 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:02.320 one that we did for Halloween, which was called the 0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:06.639 Unlikely Antidote. It had a black cherry puree around the 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:09.879 rim that gave it the sense of dripping blood. The 0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:14.480 drink itself was basically like a black and whisky sour, right, 0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:16.439 I kind remember what we had used for that that 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:19.920 rent the dripping red. It was very cool looking. Yes, 0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:23.120 made a mess as well. Oh yeah, well you know Halloween, 0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:28.400 you know, um, I may have missed it. But your 0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:31.760 glass choice for today's drink, do you know? I just 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:34.920 put mine in a Rocks glass. I shook mine, poured 0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:38.119 it over ice because it was very simple, very simple 0:21:38.160 --> 0:21:41.439 delivery there. Yeah, it's an easy, peasy whatever you like 0:21:41.520 --> 0:21:43.880 on this. Like I like it cold, you might want 0:21:43.920 --> 0:21:46.240 to drink it warm so you can simulate that it's 0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:48.639 more blood like or servant with someone and claim it is. 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:52.960 So hopefully if you try to make that you will 0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:56.639 enjoy it. I certainly did. The non drinker at my 0:21:56.720 --> 0:22:01.400 house loved it. So there you go. If you would 0:22:01.400 --> 0:22:04.000 like to join us next week, we would delight in 0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:07.040 that as well, because there's another cocktail, and I promise 0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:10.679 that one is also pretty interesting. Thank you for spending 0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:13.280 this time with us this week on Criminalia, and see 0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:16.280 you right back here next week with more witchcraft and 0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:28.159 diabolical things. Criminalia is a production of Shonda land Audio 0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:31.560 in partnership with I Heart Radio. 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