1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 2: This is the Bloomberg Daybreak Here podcast. Good morning, It's Wednesday, 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 2: the twenty first of January. I'm Stephen Carolyn London coming 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 2: up today. I doubt it. The US President Donald Trump 5 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: projects the idea that his Greenland threats will torpedo the 6 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: USEU trade deal. Air Force one is forced to turn 7 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: around as an electrical issue delays the start of Trump's 8 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 2: Davos trip. Plus Wall Street suffers its worst session since 9 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: April's Liberation Day meltdown as the Cell America trade crushes 10 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: US docks. Let's start with a roundup of our top stories. 11 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 2: The US President Donald Trump has dismissed threats of retaliation 12 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 2: from the European Union over his desire for control of Greenland. 13 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: Over the weekend, Trump announced tariffs on goods from eight 14 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: European countries unless he secured a deal to purchase the 15 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: Arctic territory. When asked whether those vise could trigger the 16 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: EU to break US investment pledges, here's what the President responded, 17 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: I doubt it. 18 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 3: Look they one. They need that agreement very badly with US, 19 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 3: they really do. 20 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 4: They fought very hard to get it, so I doubt that, 21 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 4: but we'll see what happens. 22 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 3: We have a lot of meetings scheduled on Greenland. 23 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: Trump was also asked how far he was willing to 24 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 2: go to secure Greenland. His response quote, you'll find out. 25 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: The US President's moved to strong arm Europe into a 26 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: Greenland deal as likely to dominate his appearance at the 27 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: World Economic Forum in Davos. Later. In his address to 28 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 2: the event, the French President Emmanuel Macron accused Trump of 29 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: trying to subordinate the EU. 30 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 5: Without collective governance co operation gives way to Lance's competition, 31 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 5: competition from the United States of America through trade agreements 32 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 5: at the undermine or exports interests, demand maximum concession concisions, 33 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 5: and openly aim to weaken and subordinate Europe. 34 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: Macron spoke after Trump threatened France with a two hundred 35 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: percent tariff on its wines if Macron didn't join his 36 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 2: so called Board of Peace for Gaza. Meanwhile, Greenland's Prime 37 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: minister said the Arctic Islands population and authorities need to 38 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 2: start preparing for a possible military invasion, even if it 39 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 2: remains an unlikely scenario. The President Trump's arrival in Switzerland 40 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: has been delayed after Air Force one was forced to 41 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,399 Speaker 2: turn back shortly after its departure. The White House says 42 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: the plane had encountered a minor electrical issue. It returned 43 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: to joint based Andrews in Maryland, where Trump boarded a 44 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: backup plane, which has departed in the past few hours. 45 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: He has been expected. He had been expected to arrive 46 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: in Zork at five am local time to speak in 47 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: Davos at two thirty pm, the complication ultimately delaying his 48 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,119 Speaker 2: travel to the Forum in Switzerland by more than two hours. 49 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: Canada's Prime Minister Mark Karney says countries have a choice 50 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: banned together or beyond the menu. At Davos, the former 51 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: Central Banker called time on the international rules based order. 52 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 6: We know the old order is not coming back. We 53 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 6: shouldn't warn it. Nostalgia is not a strategy, but we 54 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 6: believe that from the fracture we can build something bigger, better, stronger, 55 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 6: more just. This is the task of the middle powers, 56 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 6: the countries that have the most to lose from a 57 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 6: world of fortresses and a most to gain from genuine cooperation. 58 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 2: Carney's speech received a standing ovation at the World Economic 59 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: Forum and was echoed in comments to Bloomberg by the 60 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: former British Prime Minister Rishie Sunak. While Carney didn't directly 61 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: mention President Trump by name, he took aim at the 62 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: US president's pressure tactics and defended Greenland. Canada is overwhelmingly 63 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: reliant on trade with the United States, but last week 64 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: signed a trade deal with China. Markets are showing signs 65 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: of stabilizing today after tensions over Greenland and are out 66 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 2: in Japanese bonds triggered a broad sell off on Tuesday. 67 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: The S and P five hundred fell by more than 68 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: two percent, to raising its gains for the years so far, 69 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: as it logged its worst day since October and based 70 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: on one measure tracking US stocks, treasuries, corporate bonds, and bitcoin, 71 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 2: Tuesday mark the worst session since April's tariff induced sell off. 72 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: Bob michael is japing Morgan Asset Management's Global had a 73 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: fixed income. 74 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 4: I think this is a message from market participants to 75 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 4: the administration. We can only go so far, and they've 76 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 4: got to figure out where the line is. I think 77 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 4: what Bessin forgot to include was, yeah, the market had 78 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 4: to fit in April, and then they backed off of 79 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 4: a lot of things and then calm ensued now. 80 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: Bob Michael was speaking to Bloomberg after the Danish pension 81 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 2: Fund Academic or Pension, which has about one hundred million 82 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 2: dollars in US treasury, says it's planning to sell its 83 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 2: holdings by the end of the month. However, the CEO 84 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 2: of UBS, Sergio or Maati, has warned that Europeans could 85 00:04:58,279 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 2: be taking a big risk. 86 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 7: Diversifying away from America is impossible. I think that in 87 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 7: any major asset allocation one could probably think about having 88 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 7: an overweight or underweight. About diversifying away from the US 89 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,799 Speaker 7: and also from the dollar is a quite dangerous. 90 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: Met sod Ramadi was speaking as a worsening crisis over 91 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: Greenland drove gold and platinum to fresh records, with silver 92 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 2: also near its all time peak. Intensions between Elon Musk 93 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 2: and Ryanair CEO Michael O'Leary have spilled into a second 94 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 2: week now the world's richest man is considering buying the 95 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: Irish airline. Re works team at Abio has more. 96 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 3: It's an unlikely crossover. 97 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 8: One builds rocket, the other sells nine euro flights in 98 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 8: an entirely different orbit. But it seems Michael O'Leary and 99 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 8: elon Musk are on a collision course. The online feud 100 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 8: reached new altitudes after O'Leary claimed he wouldn't install the 101 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 8: Tesla CEO's starling technology on his feet planes last week. 102 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 8: Since then, the two leaders have exchanged insults on x, 103 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,799 Speaker 8: culminating in a poll posted to must account on Monday 104 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 8: asking followers if he should buy Ryanair. The prospects spooked 105 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,679 Speaker 8: investors on both sides. Ryanair sales declined in Dublin trading, 106 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 8: while shares in Tesla also closed lower, and any Musk 107 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 8: takeover would require him to work around current EU regulations 108 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 8: which require European airlines to be majority owned and controlled 109 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 8: by EU nationals. In London, tad A Bio, Bloomberg Radio. 110 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: And those are your top stories on the markets. The 111 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 2: MSCI as A Pacific Index seven tenths of one percent lower. 112 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 2: Eurostocks fifty futures are down by a tenth of one percent, 113 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: although some signs of a recovery on the way. On 114 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 2: Wall Street, SMPE mine's up by three tenths after yesterday's 115 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: sell off. We are watching Japanese bonds this morning. Yields 116 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: are coming down after yesterday's dramatics selloff not a full recovery, 117 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: but the thirty year yield is fourteen basis points lower, 118 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 2: and the four forty year yield is then seventeen basis points. 119 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 2: This morning, in a moment, we'll bring you more and 120 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: what to expect from Donald Trump's Davos appearance, plus the 121 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: latest on the markets after yesterday's sell off. But another 122 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: story that Ruth been reading this morning, put your suit 123 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: back on. The rush towards dressing down at work is over. 124 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 2: That's the warning from Blomberg opinion columnst Andrea Felsted has 125 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: been looking at the evidence from catwalks, social media, retailers 126 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: and sales and which shows that we are wearing more 127 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: sophisticated clothing and shoes again in the US, the Clamber 128 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: for women's loafers, for example, I mean their medium prices 129 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 2: have risen by forty percent. Men are moving to wider 130 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: legged trousers and more relaxed jackets. Marks and Spencer so 131 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 2: has seen a fifteen percent jump in suit sales. So 132 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: is this something that tells us more about our working habits? Well, firstly, 133 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: we're going back to the office more, but also the 134 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: labor market is getting tighter. So Andrea writes, that we 135 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: want to not only show up, but smarten up as well. Now, 136 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 2: she writes that some of this is seasonal, but the 137 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: item that stand out, including the return of Blazers, have 138 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: seen a spike in mentions by social media influencers as well. 139 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 2: As Andrea puts it were past peak slob. There's more 140 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 2: dressing up to be done. To'll find the piece at 141 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: Bloomberg dot com for his lash opinion. We'll put a 142 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 2: link to it on our podcast show Notes. 143 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 9: Now. 144 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 2: The US President is expected in Davos today, despite the 145 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 2: issues with his plane on the journey. He'll be arriving 146 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 2: to an event full of business and political leaders who 147 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: want to know how far he'll go and his latest 148 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: campaign against European countries over Greenland. Our chief europe correspondent 149 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 2: to Oliver Crook, is back with us this morning for 150 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: the latest on this story. Oliver, we talked to you 151 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: yesterday about this as well. But we're counting down now 152 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: to Donald Trump's appearance in Davos. What sort of reception 153 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 2: is he likely to get given what we heard from 154 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 2: Emmanuel Macron on from urceulav underline there yesterday. 155 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I think he really loves to build 156 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 10: the tension ahead of these kinds of meetings within Europe, 157 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 10: and of course doing so in part by sharing personal 158 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 10: text messages from both Mark Routta, the Secretary General of 159 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 10: NATO before he set off to Europe, and also Ammanuel Macon, 160 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 10: which gave you some insight into sort of the European 161 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 10: approach to dealing with Donald Trump. But just to sort 162 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 10: of recap what we heard from Mersula Vonderline yesterday saying 163 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 10: that basically a deal is a deal with the United States, 164 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 10: and that the Europeans will respond in kind if these 165 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 10: tariffs do go to an effect. On February the first, 166 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 10: we heard something similar from Emmanuel Macran, who's saying that basically, 167 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 10: you know, the United States, I mean, is basically a 168 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 10: neo sort of colonial power at this point, putting pressure 169 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 10: on Europeans to become vassals of American power, and again 170 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 10: once again strongly advocating the use of that very strong 171 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 10: European trade instrument, the anti coercion instrument, which he sort 172 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 10: of brought up again at Davos yesterday. But as ever, 173 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 10: I think that the sort of approach for the European 174 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 10: leaders when it comes to Donald Trump is to not 175 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 10: be excessively confrontational. You do see a different tone being 176 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 10: adopted by these leaders in this issue of Greenland, a 177 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 10: much stronger tone. But again, I think the ambition for 178 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 10: everybody in the room that will be trying to get 179 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 10: in front of Donald Trump and try to have these 180 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 10: conversations will be to try to find diplomatic through a 181 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 10: try to sort of talk down the situation and try 182 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 10: to find a way to sort of cut through what 183 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 10: we've all those very powerful rhetoric we've been hearing over 184 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 10: the last couple of days. 185 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 3: I think that's going to be the approach. 186 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 10: Of course, my con in that text message also suggested 187 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 10: arranging a G seven meeting in Paris on Thursday after 188 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 10: the sort of meetings in Davos, So we'll see if 189 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 10: that sort of cuts through it all. I would say 190 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 10: that if Emmanu and Macon wanted to cut through in 191 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 10: his speech, it seems the way that he managed to 192 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 10: do so the best was with those massive reflective aviators 193 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 10: he was wearing, because that is what I woke up 194 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 10: to from everybody from the United States, where the images 195 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 10: of it Manu and Micon speaking at Davos. 196 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 197 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: Indeed, and of course he'd explained in his speech earlier 198 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 2: this week, which was the context that a lot of 199 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 2: people were missing that he had an eye in faction, 200 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 2: which is why he was wearing the sunglasses. 201 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 10: And this sort of surveilled this of all this conversation 202 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 10: we're having about Greenland, to see the images of Immanu 203 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 10: and my con it's just very interesting. 204 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's quite stark, isn't it. The President seems 205 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: sure before he left that he wasn't going to retaliate 206 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 2: about this, but thinking and looking ahead to the meeting 207 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: of European leaders as well, how does it look now 208 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 2: that you won't choose to take the more dramatic option. 209 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 10: I think that at this point they cannot. They have 210 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 10: to take some sort of draw the line in the 211 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 10: sand somewhere. I think it's interesting. We've been hearing a 212 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 10: lot from the Trump team, whether it was Scott Bess 213 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 10: and yesterday speaking in Davos, basically again, you know, sort 214 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 10: of doing the thing that he does quite a bit, 215 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 10: which is, you know, I think the Europeans interpret as 216 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 10: a bit of gas lighting, which is basically, why is 217 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 10: everyone so hysterical and crazy about these tariff threats? 218 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 3: You know, everybody just relaxed. It'll be fine. 219 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 10: You know, the only reason it was fine last time 220 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 10: was because a the United States back down. 221 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 3: On certain measures. 222 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 10: But be everybody else except for China and a couple others, 223 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 10: basically rolled over and conceded to what the United States wanted. 224 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 10: We also heard from you know, Howard Lutnik writing in 225 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 10: the pages of the Financial Times saying, you know, there's 226 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 10: going to be a sort of reasonable outcome to all 227 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 10: of this. We don't need to worry about this too much. 228 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 10: But I think for the Europeans, the question is not 229 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 10: whether or not to retaliate, but is the nature of 230 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 10: that retaliation. 231 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 3: This is a debate that you know, we had in the. 232 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 10: Office yesterday when we were talking about you know, is 233 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 10: it about inflicting the maximum image onto the United States 234 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 10: through targeting tech companies and that sort of thing, which 235 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 10: would obviously escalate things substantially, or for the Europeans, is 236 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 10: a more just about drawing a line in the sand, 237 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 10: not appeasing the Trump administration, saying that there is a 238 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 10: limit to where we can go, but not trying to 239 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 10: amplify and make things too much worse again. Un Ursula 240 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 10: vonnerline says that there would be an unflinching response, but 241 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 10: again a proportional response. So I think that a calibration 242 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 10: of that response is really what's going to be the 243 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 10: focus for the European leaders. 244 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 2: Okay Oi a crow Cartif you're a correspondent, thank you. 245 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 2: Stay with us. More from Bloomberg Daybreak Europe coming up 246 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 2: after this. The Trump's tower of threats over Greenland rattled 247 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 2: markets too. The volatility does seem to be easing today. 248 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 2: Japanese government bonds are also rebounding after yesterday's dramatics sell off. 249 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 2: There Garfield Reinalds, who leads our Market's life team in Asia, 250 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 2: joins us now for more. Garfield, in terms of the 251 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: broad market sentiment, what is the picture today after the 252 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 2: big sale off yesterday? 253 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: Well, I think today the markets are very much warning 254 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: to see whether there will be that easing down in 255 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: the tone of things between Donald Trump on the one 256 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: head and Europe on the other. Maybe at least some 257 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: investors were heartened by Trump in amongst everything else, that 258 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: he was saying that he didn't think that the trip 259 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: would go badly, and he didn't think that the European 260 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: trade deal would be in trouble, so that by his 261 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: standards may be seen as somewhat conciliatory or at least 262 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: open to the idea that Europe will be somewhat conciliatory. 263 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: So that's allowed investors to at least you hold off 264 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: on things. We've seen Japanese government bond yields come down. 265 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: The only thing that's really been moving to underscore that 266 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: there remains plenty of nervousness is the huge surge in 267 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: gold today. Yes, that's got something to do with Poland 268 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: saying it's going to go on buying gold, but that 269 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: was mostly known in a lot of ways. It's just 270 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: the scope of it. So that elevated level for gold 271 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: is a reminder that markets are still on edge. They're 272 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: just not so on edge as they were yesterday. 273 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 2: And thinking about Japan then you know a massive sell 274 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: off and government bonds there yesterday, the Finance minister appealing 275 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 2: for cam our markets listening. 276 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: It's a little bit too early to tell, really. Yes, 277 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: bond yields have come down in some ways, they've come 278 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: down almost too rapidly. Yeah, the forty year yield was 279 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: down at one stage by about twenty basis points. That's 280 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: after it jumped thirty two basis points yesterday, So that's 281 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: a lot of volatility, which in general speaks to your 282 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: plenty of ongoing unease. After all, the sort of you know, 283 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: investors who buy and what to hold longer end Japanese 284 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: government bonds don't want to see them jumping around either 285 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: way by twenty basis points or more in a single day. 286 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: So that's going to go on being some monies, and 287 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: I think that's going to lin you through at least 288 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: until we have a forty year auction that's coming up 289 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: next week in Japan. That's going to be another your 290 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: day that were we being marked in the calendars for 291 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: not just Tokyo traders, but for the rest of the 292 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: world because the issue of how high Japanese government bond 293 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: yields can go and how rapidly is going to haunt 294 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: global markets for most of this year. 295 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 2: Really, this is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe, your morning brief on 296 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 2: this story is making news from London to Wall Streets 297 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 2: and beyond. 298 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 9: Look for us on your podcast feed every morning on Apple, 299 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 9: Spotify and anywhere else you get your podcasts. 300 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: You can also listen live each morning on London DAB Radio. 301 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 2: The Bloomberg Business App and Bloomberg dot Com. 302 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 9: Our flagship New York station is also available on your 303 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 9: Amazon Alexa devices. 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