WEBVTT - #809 Packers Unscripted: Breakdown at the bye 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:16.640 Hi, everybody. 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:20.400 Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:23.440 I am Mike Spofford, joined as always by my partner 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:25.680 in crime, Weston had Quitz. We're coming to you here 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:30.120 from our studios at Lambeufield, coming off of the bye week, Wes, 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:31.840 how is your time off? 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:36.280 Not long enough? Enough of it? But man, I always 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:38.600 say I hate the bye week. I always say this, 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:42.920 hate the bye week because you start to remember what 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:44.960 it's like to live a normal life again. 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:47.240 Yeah, and then and then it changes right. 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:48.440 Back, and it goes right back. 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:52.680 When do you have a responsibility at nine am on Monday? No, 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:54.680 it was great. It was a great week. I got 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:57.240 to spend some time with the kiddo. I got to 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:00.320 catch up on Peaky Blinders. I finished an entire season 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:03.040 at Peaky Blinders. Work, watched a little bit of football, 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:05.240 didn't do anything too extravagant. But you know what I 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:08.400 did do. I got my life in order and I 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:09.679 was really excited about that. 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:12.240 Well, that's always helpful for the second half of the season. 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:14.000 So I managed to take a trip back home. I 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:15.479 went to visit my visited my. 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:16.160 Old high school. 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:17.160 Oh yeah, how are the children. 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:19.760 I actually didn't even see my children. 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:21.200 Oh no, I met the platfilms. 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:22.320 Oh, the Platvial children. 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:23.679 I hope your children are doing well though. 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:26.840 Yeah, my children are doing just fine. The platvil children are, 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:30.440 They're in good shape. They they were excited to uh, 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:34.000 they were excited to hear. I was one of dozens 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:37.160 of presenters at career day Nice High School, so it 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:39.600 was a big, big crowd of us, but I was 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:42.319 one of the few who was actually a platfl High 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:45.880 school graduate, so that sort of like got their attention, like, oh, 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:47.480 you actually went to school. 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:48.040 Here kind of thing. 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:49.720 So it's pretty nifty man. 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:50.280 Yeah. 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:52.480 Yeah, I went back and spoke at Bayport once. I 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:56.880 asked to never do it again. I love Bayport, but 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:58.640 I'm never gonna I'm never speaking again. 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:00.320 Well, this one was a first for me. We'll see 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:05.040 if they invite me back. I'm not entirely sure. But anyway, 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:09.480 so it's time to talk about date the state of 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:15.520 the Green Bay Packers six and three, and I think 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:18.560 the hope here we'll talk about things kind of on 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:21.960 both sides of the ball, but I think the biggest 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:25.440 thing that both sides of the ball for the Packers 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:29.600 are looking for offensive and defensively, is one to get 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:32.280 back to full health or as close as possible to 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:35.600 full health, particularly with regard to some very key players, 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:39.600 but then also to find a way to play that 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:44.680 complete game, that full four quarter performance that becomes something 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:46.600 you can hang your hat on, that thing that you 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:50.160 can that your side of the ball can build on. 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:53.720 As we get closer to the stretch run of the 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:56.480 season here, it kind of seems like in different ways, 0:02:56.919 --> 0:02:58.840 both sides of the ball for the Packers are still 0:02:58.840 --> 0:02:59.560 looking for that. 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:01.560 Nice thing about the bye week is you get a 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:03.600 chance to sort of take stock of everything. And I 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:05.720 know I was hitting everyone really hard with the fact 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:07.720 that the Packers are six and three right now through 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:09.880 nine games, as opposed to three and six last year 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:12.320 and already had the bye week behind them and then 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:13.880 ended up having to play I think maybe it was 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:16.320 thirteen straight games to finish out the season and get 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:17.400 on that run that they did. 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:19.520 There's so much better position this year. 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:21.840 But another thing I've been kind of drilling home with people, 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:26.400 and something I truly believe is once you kind of 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:28.520 get away from the Detroit loss a little bit, you 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:31.200 start to realize at least in my own opinion, how 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:35.760 close this Packers team is. They're close, I think Offensively, 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:37.760 you look at what they were able to do Michael 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:40.240 and the fact that they ranked top ten, top five 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:44.000 and so many offensive categories despite not having Jordan Love 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:48.000 for three games, despite not being able to get over 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:51.000 this penalty thing, and having these ebbs and flows to that, 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:55.600 you know, some drop passes, some miscommunication and they're still 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:59.760 producing at that level of efficiency. The amount of people 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:01.840 that gotten involved in this thing, the fact that there 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:04.000 was that little bit of a situation with Romeo Dobbs, 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:06.800 but it seems like everybody has moved past that. I 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:08.920 just there's so much like offensive bit of what Green 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:12.120 Bay is doing. And defensively, I think is the area 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:15.200 where they really as important as the Jordan Love situation 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:17.640 is and getting him healthy at this knee and all 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:21.640 these other things that he's dealt with now more recently 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:25.280 the groin. Defensively, if you can get Evan Williams back, 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:27.320 if you can get jay r Alexander back, if you 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:29.920 can get some of these stalwarts now on your defensive 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:31.440 side of the ball that have really emerged in the 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.240 first half of the season. Again, there's a lot of 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:36.920 improvement that has to happen. But considering where Green Bay 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:38.760 was and how daunting it looked at being three and 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:40.920 six last year, I think six and three is a 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:42.680 massive opportunity for this football team. 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:45.480 Yeah, I agree with you. I think the Packers are close. 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:47.360 And let's stay on the defensive side of the ball 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:52.000 for a minute, because while I think the story of 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:54.120 the first half of the season, if you want to 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:57.200 call it that slightly more than half, has been the 0:04:57.279 --> 0:05:00.360 turnovers on defense, the takeaways, and the aggresive nons with 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:04.400 which they have played, I think this is a defense, 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:07.600 as you say, that is close in the sense that 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:12.039 it's right there to where you don't feel like you 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:15.040 have to go into a game counting on getting takeaways 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:17.240 to be successful. For that defense, I think they're getting 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:19.479 closer to the point. Of course you want them. They're 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:22.200 the game changing type of plays, but I think this 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:24.560 defense is getting closer to where it doesn't have to 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:25.200 rely on them. 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:27.720 I think health will have a lot to do with that. 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:34.040 But the big question is can the pass rush establish 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:37.560 a certain level of play in a certain consistency that 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:41.320 can be relied upon. And since our last show the 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:44.760 Packers traded Preston Smith to the Pittsburgh Steelers for a 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:47.840 seventh round draft pick. Found out then the next day 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:51.120 that Preston Smith had actually requested the trade. Didn't feel 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:53.279 like he was fitting in with the transition from the 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.400 three to four front to the four to three. It's 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:57.400 a ten year vet. He's played his whole career as 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:00.919 an edge rusher in a three to four. So the 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:03.680 Packers accommodated that they got a seventh round draft pick 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:09.200 in return. What that does, is, of course, open a 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:13.000 tremendous window of opportunity, not only for guys who have 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:17.240 already been playing regularly in kings Leannigbari and Lucas van 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:21.880 Ness behind Rashaan Gary, who's certainly the leader of that 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:25.400 group now and has been for a while long with Preston, 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:30.200 but also a window of opportunity for younger guys who 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:32.599 have either barely played or haven't played. And of course 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:36.039 I'm talking about Aaron Mosby and Brenton Cox junior. So 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:39.240 the Packers didn't go out and add an edge rusher 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:42.760 at the deadline. They ended up they traded one because 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:46.800 he requested it. It's interesting to me because the more 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:50.159 I thought about this trade and its ramifications, moving on 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:53.359 from Preston Smith and everything over the bye week, it 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:56.360 took me back to last season and to a lot 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:59.719 of the things that Brian Gudakunt said after the season 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:04.160 was over over in that from a personnel side of things, 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:08.040 if the Packers feel they have young players who are capable, 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:11.320 then the answer is they have to let them play, 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:14.320 and they have to let them grow and develop by playing. 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:16.960 There's a lot to be said for watching the veterans 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:19.680 do it, for watching the Preston Smiths and the Rashan. 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:20.520 Garys of the world do it. 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:24.320 But if these guys are going to become the players 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:28.400 that the personnel department believes they have and believes they 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:31.080 can become, then they have to play. And this is 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:34.560 opening that window of opportunity for guys like Mosby and 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:35.400 Cox to play. 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:38.320 It's an astute point and I will dive into that 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:41.240 fully here in one moment, but before I do so, 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:43.480 I just need to say one last. 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:44.640 Word here about Preston Smith. 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:48.640 Sure, because in a day and age where guys raise 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:51.360 hell and if they don't like something, they make it 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:53.440 known in the media, They make it known in the public. 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:56.160 They take it out in channels in which should not 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:59.800 be explored. Preston Smith very quietly said to the Green 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:03.000 Bits his representation of the Packers, Hey, you know what 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:07.080 I'm not fitting in? I don't you know nobody knew 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:07.520 about that? 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:08.000 Yep. 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:10.120 The guys in the locker room said no, I was not, 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:12.520 you know, talking to basically all these edge rushers saying no, 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:14.440 I mean he never made that known. That was something 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:17.480 the personnel department dealt with, something Brian Dudekunz dealt with. 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.840 Something Preston Smith dealt with. If he got traded, great, 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:23.080 If he doesn't, no one would have ever even knew 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:26.360 that that situation was broach. My hat goes off to 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:28.560 Preston Smith. Five and a half years here, he finishes 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:31.920 his time here, six all time in sacks since nineteen 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:35.080 eighty to two. And the fact that this guy gave 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:37.319 so much to this team and had such an impact 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:39.839 on all these young pass rushers and still went about 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:42.320 his business the way he did. I've said it before, 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:44.600 I'll say it again. He never wore a captain's patch 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:46.600 in Green Bay. But I will tell you this man, 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:50.440 in terms of people that absolutely represented what that was 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:54.360 Preston Smith was that person and everybody in that locker 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:56.240 room knew that absolutely. 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:58.120 And it's worth saying, and I'm glad you pointed it out. 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:00.880 It's worth saying. The way this went down, I think 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:03.840 not only says a lot about Preston Smith, but it 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:07.240 also said a lot about the mutual respect that existed 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:11.360 between Preston Smith and this organization. Because if Preston smith 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:15.439 representation goes to the packers and requests a trade, if 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:18.640 the packers are really upset about it and they don't 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:21.720 like it, they could very easily leak it to the 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:25.080 media and put Preston Smith on notice, and they make 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:27.520 him look like the bad guy for requesting a trade. 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:31.680 That didn't happen either. These were two sides that respected 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:36.040 each other and understood the situation, and it just very 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:40.719 quietly got resolved. And that's it's refreshing. I guess I'll 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:43.240 just say, though, without getting into other examples, in. 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:45.000 Preston's a guy that is going to be thirty two 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:47.360 years old next week. He still has a lot of 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:49.280 football ahead of him. If he feels like this scheme 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:50.839 in that system is going to what's going to help 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:53.880 him propel him to having a longer career. All the 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.240 credit to him for that. That being said, to your 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:59.120 original point, I think this is a massive opportunity and 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:01.800 I think Aaron Moseby's a really interesting guy. I thought 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:03.960 that was really cool. On his third snap on defense 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:06.320 with the Packers, he hits his first sack or shares 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:09.599 a sack with Rashan Gary. The guy I'm excited to 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:11.680 see is Brenton Cox Junior. Because the thing is is 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:14.760 the Packers use pretty much all those outside linebackers are 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.200 they have on their special teams units. Lucas Banas has 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:20.319 a role, kings Leanningbari has a role. Certainly, Moseby's a 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:20.920 four core. 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:21.440 Guy for them. 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:25.560 That being said, Brenton Cox just hasn't been able to 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:28.480 get into that GameDay situation because a lot of that 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:30.320 is the special teams a lot of it. The guys 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:32.040 ahead of him on the depth chart on defense are 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.080 also ahead of him on the depth chart on special teams. 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:37.200 This is a massive opportunity for him. This is a 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:39.439 guy that has flashed so many times as a former 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:42.640 five star recruit. Everybody knows his story, knows what he's overcome, 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:44.800 knows the professionalism I think he showed in one and 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:47.719 a half years here in Green Bay. Now he potentially 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:49.680 has an opportunity to get some snaps on the field, because, 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:52.880 as you said, Michael, that's where ultimately this learning has 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:54.920 to take place. That's where you have to cut your teeth. 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:57.080 That's where you have to sink or swim. Now, both 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:59.000 him and Moseby, you'd imagine we'll get some of those 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:00.440 snaps as well in that re Yeah. 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:03.160 Absolutely, it's where it's It's how the Packers found out 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:07.400 last year what they had in the rookie receivers and 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:09.880 the rookie tight ends and the young guys that the 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:12.960 personnel department believed in and said, hey, all right, like 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:15.160 there are gonna be some bumps in the road, but 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:17.400 you have to let these guys play, you have to 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:19.720 let them develop. In this case, guys like Moseby and 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:23.559 Cox undrafted guys not to not chosen in the draft. 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:28.200 But I think the actions over the trade deadline certainly 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:31.240 indicate that the Packers believe in these guys, and they 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:34.400 believe that given the opportunity, Yes there are going to 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:37.040 be some mistakes, Yes there may be some setbacks along 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:40.160 the way, but given the opportunity to grow and develop 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:44.800 that these are guys who can contribute to a contending team. 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:47.280 So we're going to we're going to find that out. 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:50.200 Shifting back to the offense for a second, and I 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:53.199 wrote a story after our first kind of open locker 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:58.960 room after the bye on Monday afternoon and looking into 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:03.440 looking in this the statistics, and you mentioned offensively, how 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:06.120 you know, the Packers have very very in some cases high, 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:09.559 in other cases very respectable rankings in the offensive categories. 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:12.320 There is a bit of a discrepancy though, in the 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:15.360 fact that the Packers ranked third in the league in 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:19.120 yards per game offensively, but only ninth in the league 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:22.920 in points per game. And I think that discrepancy in 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:25.600 those two rankings, both of which are plenty solid, of course, 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:28.160 but the discrepancy in those two rankings, I think is 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:32.880 an indication of the opportunities that the Packers offense has 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:37.000 let get away. And those opportunities have gotten away for 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:39.880 the reasons that we've discussed the drop passes and the 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:45.040 penalties and the interceptions, because we talked about, you know, 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:48.480 Jordan Love's number being too high there, I think what 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:51.720 the Packers feel like offensively in the sense that I 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:55.760 got in the locker room on Monday talking to Josh 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:58.320 Jacobs and talking to Jayden Reid and talking to Josh 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:01.920 Myers about what's out there for this offense. Not a 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:05.439 one of them said anything about the schemes that defenses 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:07.719 are playing and what the other team is doing to them. 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:10.600 They're all looking at it as this is right in 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:14.240 front of us. Yeah, we can fix this, we can 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:16.920 perform better, we can put better numbers on the board. 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:19.880 This is very much this is very much an inward 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:23.200 looking team on offense saying it's all right in front 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:25.480 of them to get it going to where they believe 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:26.079 they can go. 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:28.040 The number one thing when I looked at the Packers 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:32.400 offense and going back and going through NFLGSIS twenty ninth 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:35.360 in red zone offense right now, twenty fourth and goal 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:39.480 to go in nineteenth and third downs, that's really the 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:41.360 only area where Green Bay's kind of come up short 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:43.920 is the situational stuff. Obviously, we make a lot out 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:46.040 of the penalties, but if you look at the penalties 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:48.880 green Bay, it's not like they're demonstrably higher than the 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:49.760 rest of the NFL. 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:52.520 It's just that they've had them happen at the wrong time. 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:54.679 Right, it's the way, it's the when they've occurred, and 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:56.839 a lot of them, particularly early in the year, were 0:13:56.840 --> 0:14:00.199 occurring in the red zone, which is then affecting the 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:01.840 the point production at the end of the day. 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:04.000 Had an impact, I think in the Detroit game as well, 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:07.760 and being able to sustain drives and you know, it's 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:09.960 one thing to move the football, it's another thing to 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:12.280 be able to get the full six points out of it. 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:13.960 And I feel like that's where Green Bay still has 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:16.000 a lot left out there for them. I look at 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:18.520 a guy like Romeo Dobbs, who has been just an absolute, 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:21.120 you know, dream for a quarterback in the red zone. 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:23.200 Can they get more opportunities for him. We'll see how 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:25.440 everything goes here. With Christian Watson in the second half 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:27.240 of the season, I think there's a lot out there 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:30.120 for him as well. Josh Jacobs has been the third 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:32.720 leading rusher in the National Football League. He finally got 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:35.760 his first receiving touchdown during the first half of the season. 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:38.240 Where can the Packers build this offense out with him 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:39.840 as well? And as it sounds like from what Brian 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:42.720 Gudkuin said last week, there's a potential that Marshawn Lloyd 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:45.000 here will be back shortly as he works his way 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:48.840 back from the ankle injury. So green Bay offensively should 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:50.600 have their full allotment of weapons. That the other thing. 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:54.200 And we'll preview the Bears game on Thursday and we'll 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:57.239 get into this little bit more. But Green Bay's quarterbacks 0:14:57.280 --> 0:14:59.720 are the least sacked quarterbacks in the National Football League. 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:02.520 They've had twelve sacks this season. The Bears have had 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:05.920 the most. Now as far as this individual position, I 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:08.480 think maybe Cleveland between the two quarterbacks, has more, but 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:12.840 nobody's taken more sacks than Caleb Williams. The Packers' ability 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:15.560 to keep the pocket clean give whether it's Jordan Love 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:18.280 or Malik Willis, giving them a workable pocket and allowing 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:21.280 playmakers to make plays. It's all been there for Green Bay. 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:24.560 Can you finish these drives? That's where ultimately they need 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:24.960 to get to. 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:25.360 Yeah. 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:28.680 Absolutely, I think it's out there. It's out there for 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:31.680 the Packers. They know it, they see it. But as 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:34.360 Josh Meyer said, you know when he was then asked 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:36.480 as a hobb Okay, what does it take to get there? 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:39.280 What does it take to really put yourself up there 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:41.680 as one of the best offenses in the league. And 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:45.880 he said it takes an intentionality every day to what 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:47.960 you do and how you go about your work. And 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:51.880 I think that's the you know, the inward looking message 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:56.200 is is that that's the approach. And we'll see, I 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:58.320 mean in a sense, we won't see because we don't 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:01.480 get to watch practice, but maybe will hear and perhaps 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:03.280 see in the results if some of the things that 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:05.800 Matt Lafleur talked about in terms of changing the structure 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:08.720 of practice a little bit, emphasizing certain things over others, 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:13.320 if that ends up, you know, perhaps changing the results 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:14.040 a little bit. 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:14.440 For the better. 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:17.120 Because and I say all that going back to your 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:20.440 original point very early in the show talking about both 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:23.760 sides of the ball, the Packers are close, like they 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:27.080 are close. They are not far away from where they 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:29.080 need to be and where they believe they should be, 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:30.320 but they haven't gotten there. 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:32.360 And you're never going to play a perfect game. There's 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:34.000 going to be things that Green Bay did really well 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:35.720 in the first half of the season that they maybe 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:37.640 won't do as well in the second half, because that's 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:39.440 just how this game is played. To the variables that 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:42.120 are in play with it. But that being said, there's 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:43.960 things that happened during the first half of the season 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:46.000 that you just don't expect to happen over the course 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:48.840 of an entire year. The receiver drops, right, I mean, 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:52.040 there's guys in that equation that you expect they're going 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:53.960 to be able to make those plays here going forward. 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:58.400 Yea, guys who have been more reliable than they've shown 0:16:58.440 --> 0:16:59.960 in some of their worst moments. 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:02.080 And the other thing is too And I'll close on this. 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:04.520 I wish people maybe sometimes they get to see. 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:05.199 These locker room interviews. 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:06.960 Maybe they don't if you're on Packers dot Com or 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:09.560 some of the local television stations, But like, I wish 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:12.399 everybody could watch the six ten minutes whatever it was 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:15.919 that Sean Ryan talked after the game against Detroit, Because 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:17.919 when you talk about when fans get so upset and 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:20.320 we see things in insider inbox and they don't like this, 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:22.800 So why isn't this being fixed? How come they haven't 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:25.080 gotten better in this area? If you would have listened 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:27.840 to Sean Ryan after that game discussing his false start 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:30.040 that ultimately pushed the Packers back from a third and 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:31.320 three to a third and eight and then they end 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:33.560 up having I think they punted on that one. Then, Yes, 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:37.520 how seriously these guys take this and how much that 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:40.720 bothered Sean afterwards. I'm sure it's something that still said 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:42.960 he was thinking about going into the bye week. These 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:44.840 guys want to get it right and they want to 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:46.760 get things fixed, and they're not going to make excuses 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:49.119 when you don't have Josh Myers and the communication changes 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:50.800 on the offensive line and guys are trying to do 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:53.320 different positions that they haven't normally played, they won't use 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:55.560 those excuses. But at the same time, when you hear 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:59.159 them lament their errors, hearing them for that understanding the 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:03.560 emphasis in the intentionality to use that for a phrase. Again, 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:07.000 these guys take this so serious. Yeah, and they want 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:08.000 to come through for your team. 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:10.240 Yeah. And we'll see when the team gets back on 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:12.760 the practice field on Wednesday. We'll see where things are 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:15.560 health wise with Jordan Love and with Josh Myers at 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:17.639 center with the wrist injury, and as you mentioned that 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:21.639 defense with jay r Alexander and Evan Williams, and hopefully 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:25.840 the health report sort of turns in a more positive 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:29.560 direction here. As the Packers hit the second half of 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:31.439 the season, so I'll take care of a little bit 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:34.760 of sponsor business here. West Sirius XMNFL Radio delivers hard 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:37.639 hitting analysis and up to the minute NFL news that 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:41.000 true football fanatics need twenty four to seven, three sixty 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:43.440