WEBVTT - EP 112 Of Mice And Men 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:05.720 When I wrote, y'all all across the usc Compton Watts, 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:10.680 thank to l A. Come on the California, the Valley. 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:14.200 We represent that kind of county. So if you're keeping 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:16.840 it rail on your side of your town, you tune 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:22.120 into Gangster Chronicles Gangster Chronic Goals. We're gonna tell you 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:25.480 how we go. If I like my nose, will girl 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:27.720 like Pinocchio. We're gonna tell you the truth and nothing 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:32.640 but the truth Gangster Chronicles. This is not your average show. 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:36.680 You're now tuned into the rail. M C A, Bick 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:45.159 James and Bix Fails from the Streets. Hello, Welcome to 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:48.040 the Gangster Chronicles podcast, the production of My Heart Radio 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:51.239 and Black Effect Podcast Network. Make sure you download the 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:53.880 I Heart Apple, subscribe to The Gangster Chronicles for my 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:56.360 Apple users, hit the purple mica on your front screen. 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:58.560 Subscribe to Against the Chronicles and leave a five star 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:01.040 rate in the comment. We the welcome every one to 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:04.520 another episode Against the Chronicles podcast. Now, who want you? 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:06.840 Try to keep our homeboy, our brother m C eight 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:09.200 and Prayer. He's doing fine, couldn't be with us the 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:11.520 night and he's taking care of a medical issue. Nothing 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:13.480 Bass so don't start the rumors out there. We got 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:15.240 big jag in the house. Man. Tonight, we got a 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:19.520 special guest, the Professor, Melly Mayl, the hood professor. Man. 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:22.000 You know the vibe, Man, I'm just chilling. Man. How 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:25.680 you doing, James, I'm good, my brother, I'm good. Still 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:29.200 just told me, man, you probably out riding that motorcycle. Man, 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:31.760 you know I ain't got the glass, boy, I was, 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:34.959 I was getting that rest. Yeah, I gotta do that. Man. 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:39.640 When here, you know, okay, got you. You got a 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:42.720 lot of energy. I'll be running on any kids. The 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:45.200 kids don't know. They don't never once them two year 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:49.480 olds on up, man, they run all day day. One 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:51.920 of the things we was talking about earlier, what exactly 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:55.400 is the man code? Fellas? Man? Cold is staying on cold? Man, 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:58.520 knowing what your what your code of conduct is Man, 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:00.800 you know what that's you and you get that in 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:04.000 your culture, conditioning it. But it comes from your father, 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:06.360 you know what I'm standing. But a lot of these 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:10.040 guys are being really reared and raised up by women. 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:13.800 So you know what I mean. It kind of speaks 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:16.600 for herself. When that when a female element is part 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:21.040 of a man's thinking, it becomes emotional, very emotional, so 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:23.320 they don't know how to process like a man or 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:25.160 like a man with normally, you know what I mean. 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:27.680 Because times have changing, a lot of women are just 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:32.320 raising you know, man, boys that my mom's My mom 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:37.680 reased five, three sons when in the household. You know, 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:41.840 we pretty much did what we wanted to do, and 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:45.680 by far, you know, none of her sons were timid, 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:49.840 you know what I'm saying. And and you know, I 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:53.160 give a credit for raising five. But you know, I 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:57.600 think without the dad, you know, we ain't afraid of nothing. 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:01.359 So we we we tend to bul off into our 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:04.519 own ship and start doing what we see in the streets. 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:08.280 And that's what that's true. That's true though, James. But 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:12.679 doing your time, you had uncle's granddaddy. You had somebody 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:14.720 coming through, man, you know what I mean, there was 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:17.079 somebody that was right there, you know what I mean. 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:20.040 So that we're talking, we're talking about two different eras, 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:22.160 you know what I mean? Where this era right here? Man? 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:27.119 This this generation z man? Come on, man, they man, 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:30.640 they they don't. We used to just smoke weed and 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:34.560 drink a little drink. Now they're doing Molly's uh sir, 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:38.000 you know drink, you know what I mean, A little PCP, 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:42.800 a little little power that can hide different things. The 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:47.360 doors is open for being taught. I'm three cold supposed 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:51.400 to learning and thinking for yourself, you know what I'm saying. 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:55.600 And you know we knew what time to head back 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:59.320 to the house, you know what I'm saying. Oh yeah, 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:01.880 we definitely had that. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:07.120 So these cats today are totally different. You know, we 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:11.240 have the lack of loyalty because don't nobody understand what 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:14.040 that means. They didn't grow up with that, so they 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:18.919 don't they're not conditioned for that. Uh, you know, just 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:21.720 just you don't have that one hunter like you used 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:23.839 to have when we was growing up back in the days. 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:27.680 You know, you got kids knocking on those shooting at 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.880 the parents. Parents ain't got ship to do with gang 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:33.920 banging and these things that you know, being up close 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:38.160 and personal. That was that was one of the rules. 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:43.479 You don't you know that then we had respect for 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:46.560 the churches, even though we were fucking monsters and and 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:49.279 and doing the street. We didn't go and tag on 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:53.360 a church, you know what I'm saying. Just certain things 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:58.440 we didn't do opposed to everything they're doing today, you 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:00.400 know what I'm saying. And we can tell can wait 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:03.920 because the daddy went there. I mean, we can honestly 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:07.680 say that. But the kids these days, some of them 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.520 got both of their parents, you know what I'm saying. 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:13.440 That's true, but still out there doing the same monkey 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:18.440 as ship that everybody else is doing right, right, right right, 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:28.800 they're not thinking. There's a book, man, It's called The Man. Hello, yeah, oh, 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:31.839 keep on, okay, there's a book called The Man Not 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:36.360 Right and it's my guy named Tommy Jake Curry. Man. 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:39.080 It is a great reading. It kind of just it 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:42.800 taps into a lot of different areas of manhood. With manhood, 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:45.880 isn't with manhood? It's not I lovet my mic for 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:58.159 a second. Let me say, come back home, you're good. Yeah. 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:01.800 I'm gonna write a book called think for Yourself than 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:06.239 a lot of mother fuckers don't think for yourself? There 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:09.360 there there. You know, it's one thing of being taught 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:14.880 right and wrong, and then there's another thing to be taught, um, 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:19.080 just being stupid a foolish way. And a lot of kids, 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:21.320 a lot of these cats out here have been taught 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:26.719 a foolish way like our nephews. My nephews I want 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:30.239 to be game bangers, but they see what had done 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:36.159 to uncles and cousins and the uncle's homeboys. But they 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:40.920 still want to be a part of everybody. Everybody want 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:44.960 to play and have a position and nothing. You know 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:47.400 what I'm saying. And I just I just called it. 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:51.520 Just think for yourself if you can see and and 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:55.640 absorbed the ship that's been going on watching uncles because 0:06:55.960 --> 0:07:00.000 unties didn't let the kids. So we thought our nieces, 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:03.320 the nephews would be involved in this type of ship. 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:09.720 Just like in compting down today you got the homies 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:15.600 kids killing each other. You see what I'm saying. We 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:18.160 all grew up together, but our kids are at board 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:23.840 and the only thing to separate them is a boulevard 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:28.880 right uh street. That's it, because they said virtually in 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:31.480 the same proxibility of one another. They went to the 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:35.200 same schools, They they see each other, they go to 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.360 the look store, they share the look of story in 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:42.120 the gas station. So how did we get there? Uh James? 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:50.200 Every year ship breaks down in the neighborhood, all the 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:53.200 all the cats that we call big homies or whatever 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:56.960 are gone. The ones that are here may be strong 0:07:57.040 --> 0:08:03.800 on drugs. The younger kids, younger generation don't respect, don't 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:08.560 know how to respect, the olders, the elders, the big homies. 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:13.560 Howevery you choose the word um, they don't respect mama. 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:17.000 You know what I'm saying, because now they believe that 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:20.000 the homies got their backup post to their mama having 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:24.040 their back. You know, family, the hood turns into the family. 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:28.160 The street cold of today is the homies. And what 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:31.960 the homies do? You know, nobody out there. And these 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:35.280 kids have never been taught how to think for itself, 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:39.520 so it don't matter that you know, they never broke 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:42.440 bread with each other, the big homies. We all grew 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:45.120 up breaking bread with each other. But these kids that 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:48.360 never broke bread with each other, you feel me. So 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:51.839 it's just a lack of And then that you got 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:55.480 in the hood of you know, fifty and over, forty 0:08:55.559 --> 0:09:00.000 five and over, they they become the big homie. Now 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:03.040 that's why they still trapped where they at because they 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:07.200 want to be the big homies. But they don't get it. 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:12.360 So how can the blind lead the blind? Yeah, you know, 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:16.760 y'all both said something really like, um, stuff that's just real. 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:21.160 On point, Millie Mayo said something. He mentioned something earlier 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:23.240 that a lot of these guys don't have a father 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:25.520 figure in the house. And see, I think with their 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:28.960 father figure, you know, like even though my pops weren't 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:30.960 physically in the house with me, I had a stepdaddy, 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:34.000 right there was real, no nonsense. And I had uncles 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:36.240 that was coming home from prison or whatever like that 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:38.240 telling me there ain't no place that you want to go. 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:41.760 So they pretty much gave me what the definition of 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:44.200 a man was. You know, the news didn't sit in 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:46.280 the ass all day and you know what I'm saying, 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:49.439 and and just chill. They went out of work and 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:52.360 had jobs and ship, had hustles, had ship. You know. 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:54.560 So I was talking from early age. And the man 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:57.520 is supposed to provide for his household. A man is 0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:00.319 supposed to do this. I got certain tendencies to day, 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:03.040 Like if I see my wife taking out trash, I 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:05.240 get my son's ass. I'll be like, you know, what 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:08.840 is your mama doing taking trash outside? That's show job, right, 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:11.280 that show job at the house of somebody breaking house. 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:13.320 What we're gonna do stay upstairs and hide the woman 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:15.400 go downstairs and hold it down. You know, no, I 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:19.000 don't work like that. That would break the cycle what 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:22.800 you're doing with your kids at home today you're there. 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:26.120 That breaks the cycle of how you grew up. You 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:28.920 know what I'm saying, The ship that I'm doing raising grandkids. 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:31.600 You know I ain't supposed to be raising my grandkids. 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:34.400 My kids supposed to be raising their own kids. You're 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:38.120 supposed to come with granddad and my mom on the weekend. Yeah, 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:40.959 you know what I'm saying. So I got a question 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:44.040 for both of you, guys. What's that? What is the 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:49.520 hardest good in the world, the hardest good doing right, 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:55.160 the hardest hood in the world. I'm no good, the 0:10:55.200 --> 0:11:02.200 hardest in the world. Skill jeans eight, y'all neggas better 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:04.480 give me my fire Donald, I put that on a shet. 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:07.560 I need to go get me some wanna merrow my 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:11.679 motherfucking feet fucking with me. Gangster Chronicles of my ass 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:15.800 pay granted her money. This Gangster Granny, y'all know me? 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:20.920 Where you at? Where you at? This is o G 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:26.040 Gangster Granny and the Gangster Chronicles podcast is back in effect. 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:29.920 Getting ready for some of that G ship and blaze 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:37.600 up some wanna merrow the exactly. That's the hardest hood 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:40.000 in the world. Man, it's the hardest because I'm gonna 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:43.240 tell you this too right here. I think sometimes I've 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:45.960 been too We've been too good at parents because I 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:48.400 look at my kids. Sometimes it's just like little stuff 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:50.360 like you know, my wife would say she's going the 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:52.360 grocery store to buy something to cook for dinner. Right 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:54.640 the kids just be on some ship like, oh, we 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:58.400 want you potally, we won't you know Chick fil A. 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:00.959 When I was a kid, that's she was luxury. We 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.680 want to McDonald's. It was like a luxury you man, 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:06.079 you get to go to McDonald's. And to day, man, 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:08.480 these kids just looking ship like that, like it's supposed 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:10.760 to happen, you know what I mean. No, that's called 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:14.720 pacifying dogs. We pacified kids and give them what they want, 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:18.120 you know what I'm saying. Like me, I try to 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:20.959 give my kids and my grandkids when I didn't get 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:23.560 from my father, when I didn't get from my mother. 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:25.720 And at the end of the day, you wind up 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:30.720 hurting them because you pacified. Now they become adults and 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:36.320 they still want and think you're supposed to give m so'. 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:40.959 Also what's also interesting is how these kids are hard 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:44.600 wired to dismiss the facts that we are laying out 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:46.920 because of their own local feaking. The facts that we 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:48.960 are laying out right here, the fact that we sit 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:54.040 on this live and we're given straight up datas fact statistics. 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:59.640 They're hard wire in their minds did this simply dismiss it? Right? 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:03.960 It's like, you know, sometimes I tell my sons some 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:06.400 ship that I haven't been through already and then look 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:08.240 at me. Well it was different back then, pops. I 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:10.520 was like, what's different? You know? You know, you know 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:14.720 what that's all? Yeah, you know? And what I've noticed 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:16.720 with these and you know it ain't all bad. You've 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:19.200 got some young kids out of the handling their business, right. 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:22.520 I noticed, for the most part, man, we live in 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:25.040 the area where dudes can't take no kind of in 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:28.240 this hot, slightest little in the resistance. They're ready to 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:29.920 give up on some ship, you know what I mean? 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:32.360 And I tell my kids every day life is hard 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:34.480 as a motherfucker. I said, you think I like doing 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:37.000 half the ship? I do, but it's what it is, 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:38.680 you know, It's what you have to do is with 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:40.240 with your purpose he is. You know what I mean. 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:42.760 You know you got card notes, you got mortgages, you 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:44.600 got ship to pay for, so you gotta get off 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:49.160 your ass. The world is moving, man, because every moment, 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:53.800 every day, new second changes occurring. Whether you want to 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:55.760 be a part of it or not, it is happening. 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.240 So you gotta get with the program. And you know 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:00.640 what I mean, You look like the dude that's standing 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:03.120 down on the corner in front of acing store with 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:06.439 the body hounds, still got a Jerry Curl telling about 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:08.560 he he from the hood. Are you got the dude 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:10.920 over sending town of blocks stand in front of Brownies 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:14.280 on the back side with the body hounds talking about 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:16.720 Yeah man, I'm down for the hood. You got them 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:20.120 cats right there, and then you got these junctions looking 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:24.200 at that. But they don't realize that's the horrid movie 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:26.960 right there in front of their face that's gonna be 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:29.440 to them in ten years. But they don't. They don't 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:31.840 seem to take that into account. You know what I mean, 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:35.160 because we all these eyes right here. Your eyes is 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:39.360 the lends to the movie that you're filming right You're 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:41.720 right here right now, you know, So you want to 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:44.840 be the best version of yourself at all times, you 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:47.160 know what I mean. But people don't. People just take 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:51.000 things for for granted in our communities that theseus do 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:53.480 somehow it's just gonna work itself out. They don't have 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:56.200 to put no time and energy into working it out. 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:59.120 They just want you like they want Jenny's and maybe 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:01.320 come fix it or take their head and show them 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:03.440 with them. Still they want you to do me, you 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:05.920 know what I mean. They think that somehow we're gonna 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:09.160 just um going in the backyard to Money three and 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:12.320 just feeling for him, you know. Yeah, well you know what, 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:15.040 and and that seems so risk a lot of grown as, 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:17.760 sorry niggas that think that way. I'm gonna tell y'all, James, No, 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:21.240 you would be surprised at the amount of phone calls 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:23.320 I get for people. And I don't mind people calling 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:25.760 me for help or asking for help if you're willing 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:28.560 to do forself. But you'll get somebody to call you 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:30.240 and say, hey, man, I want to put them together 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:33.200 a podcast, right, I want to do something. You help 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:34.960 them get it up and get them get it set up. 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:37.240 Next thing, you know, they're calling you every day because 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:38.960 they pretty much want you to come and do the 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:41.920 ship with them, and you don't already put all kinds 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:44.280 of man hours into them. Don't get it all kinds 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:46.760 of ship. Don't do it this You now you're getting 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:49.080 the where you're not just investing your time, but now 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:51.480 you've investing a little bit of money because it's like 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:54.240 you know what this and you know this money still 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:57.080 because if you're spending time over there for free, you're 0:15:57.120 --> 0:16:00.000 losing money where you could be getting money on y'all 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:02.240 own ship exactly. And that's what I tell people. I 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:04.800 would say, ship me and James got her own damn platform. 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:06.360 We could be able there doing that ship. At least 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:08.040 we know we're getting the dollar from that ship, you know. 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:10.600 But you would get people in the moment you tell 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:14.000 these motherfucker's no. It's like watching the reaction to a 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:16.000 little four year old kid when you tell they can't 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:18.440 have no more candy cookies or some ship because they 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:21.360 get mad. Funk are you funny acting? Because see the 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:23.440 one thing about the nigga and I ain't telling about 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:26.360 black people. Don't talk about nigas period. You can tell 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:29.520 him niggas yes, a million motherfucking times. The first time 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:31.960 you tell them motherfucker's. No, they forget about all the yes, 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:37.160 and now you all kind of bullshit. Motherfucker's you know, 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:39.520 you let the motherfucker. You let the motherfucker hold a 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:41.480 few dollars, right. And this is just a thing about 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:45.280 being a principle. I was taught coming up. You don't 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:48.120 borrow from somebody. I ain't know borrowing type of nigga, 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:49.960 no way. But if I get something from another man, 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:54.280 you're supposed to get that ship back to him, whether family, 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:59.360 you know, you know what exactly, whether it's family, whether 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:02.560 it's what ever. And I tell my kids all the time, 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.280 you know, don't give her that thinking because I gotta 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:07.080 tell my signs if they come to me, Pop, you've 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:08.760 got a few dollars, like a borrow, I'll say you 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:11.520 borrow a hat. It's a difference, you gotta be clear, 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:14.240 very different, because if you tell me that you're borrowed, 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:17.879 if that means I'll expect mind back back. It's like 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:22.800 it's difference between somebody in the streets or somebody at 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:27.639 home in a sense. Uh. But but it kind of 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.280 falls backs on you. If you know a mothercker ain't 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:32.120 got a job and he hang on the block, oh 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:35.760 goddamn day. He ain't doing nothing if he if a mothermucky, 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:40.159 ain't get enough being productive. And motherfucker came by his 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:43.919 own drink, his own weed. Everybody got habits, came by 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:47.679 a cigarette and it's the same motherfucker every day. Let 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:50.600 me get a smoke, Let me get a smoke. You're 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:53.800 ready to give them three foot the hollars, but yeah, 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:57.800 it's homie you give hims. Don't plan on seeing that 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:02.040 shipped back. Yeah, that's real ship. You already knew, not 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:05.639 to his mother. You know what my thing is, James, 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:08.520 with certain motherfucker's and I know their tendencies. I do 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:10.919 what I call buy them out of my life. If 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:14.040 I know what motherfucker, that's exactly what happened. He asked 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:16.440 me for something. Yeah, sure you can borrow that two 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:18.359 D I'll give it to us as because I know 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:20.280 I ain't gonna never get from his punk ask again. 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:25.080 He break his neck when he seen you from trying 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:29.640 to hide from you because he don't want you, because James, 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:32.920 because how many times and this fall in the main 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:36.560 code to me too, because I tell people all the time, 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:38.600 I ain't never been a gang banger, but I tell 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:41.520 you why all my friends are gangious, because then most 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:46.359 of them is the most loyal, trustworthy motherfucker's you can 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:49.600 meet because they live by a certain code. If they 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:51.119 get something from it, they can give it back. And 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:52.920 nine times out of team, they ain't gonna never ask 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:55.640 you for ship because they got their young You see 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:59.399 what I'm saying. And it's like it's a lot of 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:01.120 good brothers out there. You know what I'm saying. It's 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:03.440 a lot of real sellers, streetcats. And when it comes 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:06.000 down to man, really, I'm gonna tell you where all 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:08.720 this ship comes from. Y'all. Remember when the eighties they 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:11.159 start pushing that line about oh, if your parents is 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:13.400 whooping your ass at home, you can call this number 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:15.440 and snick. And remember people are telling them their parents 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:19.119 and ship like that. But where they missed the market 0:19:19.240 --> 0:19:21.080 with that ship. You had people that was really at 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:23.119 home getting the views and ship that couldn't get no 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:25.840 fucking help. But you've got this one motherfucker to the 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:28.080 call a police every night when he's getting his ass 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:30.680 fucking up, and they come over the jumping on their 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:34.000 parents and ship like that. If the ship really got controved, 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:36.680 man to the fact that where these kids thinking, motherfucker's 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:39.000 supposed to be their friends when your opinion, you're not 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:41.040 put on this earth to be a fucking friend. How 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:44.000 do you Why do they think like that? Because you 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:47.240 got some things they get hid with their kids that 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:52.400 come on, let's have a drink. Uh uh, they're doing 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:54.880 it with the kids over here. Those are the things 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:58.159 that you don't do with your kids. Man. Exactly, no 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:01.800 motherfucking marijuana with job because at the end of the day, 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:06.560 he's getting comfortable with hanging with you, not you being 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:10.360 my parents, my father. So that's a that's what you're 0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:12.480 just saying. It is a part of staying on cold. 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:15.200 We know as parents, that's something that you shouldn't do 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:17.840 with your kids. You gotta stay on cold. You gotta 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:20.320 stay in parent mode. You don't go from being parent 0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:23.719 to being their bread or being somebody that's passing buns 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:27.400 between them. You know, you just don't do that. Man. Yeah, 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:30.280 you don't know. My thing is this because you know 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:33.000 right now marijuana, we gonna go to the weed a 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:37.120 little bit. Marijuana is legal now. I smoke every once 0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:39.440 in a while. I smoke me some weeds, but I'll 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:41.200 be damning from them, sili thin get have one of 0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:45.680 my damn kids. You should no no, but that's just no, no, 0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:47.960 you don't cross the line. And just it's like it 0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:49.800 is this when you're making love with your wife being 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:51.520 invite him in the room something, watch and see how 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:53.200 hit that as you might as well if you start 0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:57.040 doing it like that right well, and just at the 0:20:57.160 --> 0:20:59.200 end of the day, man, you when you start doing 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:02.800 it like that, entertaining yourself with your kids in a 0:21:02.920 --> 0:21:06.680 fashion of that that nature, what happens when your son 0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:09.960 get mad at you. Now you see these niggas just 0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:13.439 nothing up on their daddies, and that's because they've crossed 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:16.480 that line of somewhere. You got this in the neighborhood today. 0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:21.440 But it's all to me. I think everything that we're 0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:25.119 doing in life is designed. Everything that we do in 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:28.159 life has a reason to it, and it has a purpose. 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:34.280 When when when the government, when these people took whooping 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:37.960 our kids out of the household, and now the kid 0:21:38.160 --> 0:21:43.880 feel more more just just angry because now I can 0:21:43.920 --> 0:21:45.920 call the police and your ask to go to jail. 0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:50.920 Uh whooping your kids? And and you put your kids 0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:53.359 into and our hall system, you gotta pay for it. 0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:57.080 What'd that tell you? Man? If you if I can't 0:21:57.160 --> 0:22:00.520 chastise my son, what happens my son get more and 0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:03.600 more and more batter and batter every day he goes 0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:07.600 out there hanging out. Now he becomes a statistic Now 0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:10.800 he didn't got his as well by the people killed 0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:15.440 by the police. After that law was implemented surely round 0:22:15.480 --> 0:22:18.159 by the the late nineties, early two thousand and when 0:22:18.240 --> 0:22:20.600 you start seeing these kids walking up in the school 0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:25.560 and gunning down the whole classroom. Mm hmm. You know 0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:28.600 what I'm saying, Because that was the parents had that 0:22:28.760 --> 0:22:31.360 had that was no longer no structure within your home. 0:22:31.760 --> 0:22:34.320 You couldn't discipline your child when you know Johnny was 0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:36.920 doing all this. With Johnny was back there killing the cat, 0:22:37.080 --> 0:22:40.119 killing the dog, and doing all this crazy strange stuff, 0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:42.879 you weren't able to stop him and discipline him on that, 0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:44.639 you know what I mean. So you just kind of 0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:47.600 shoved it under the carpet, buried the animal, and just 0:22:47.720 --> 0:22:51.240 pretend like that never happened. So over over a period 0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:55.440 of time, he evolved and the mentality became thirsty for 0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:58.600 something bigger or something a bigger venue. Shopping for a 0:22:58.680 --> 0:23:01.680 bigger venue, and here we go. We now we got 0:23:01.760 --> 0:23:05.840 these kids walking up at school, movie theaters, nightclubs, or whatever, 0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:09.480 what have you, and they just got everybody down. Don't 0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:12.040 even know him, just or walk up into the church 0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:14.679 delling roof, you know what I mean? Then the police 0:23:14.720 --> 0:23:18.080 shows up and apprehending, don't buy a shot, taking the 0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:21.159 burger king and buy the walker and called him off 0:23:21.200 --> 0:23:23.480 the jail like it was just a normal day. Ball 0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:26.560 That's not normal. And man, a man, what do you 0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:30.680 call the kid that can go and commit him murder 0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:34.920 but then fall out and break down, and in the 0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:39.159 court room after the judge then gave him a life sentence, crying, 0:23:40.160 --> 0:23:44.520 what do you call him? Is he misunderstood? No, he's 0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:48.880 not missunderstood, because you just kill somebody, right, he don't 0:23:48.960 --> 0:23:53.359 understand consequences. We didn't understand that for We didn't give 0:23:53.400 --> 0:23:56.679 a funk about that part. Should I say we went 0:23:56.760 --> 0:23:59.320 to jail back then we went to jail. We didn't 0:23:59.320 --> 0:24:02.840 give seventy two hours. You're getting out of jail, don't 0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:06.680 nobody to show up, ain't nobody coming to court? Motherfucker's 0:24:06.760 --> 0:24:09.520 look for that type of ship. And and we we 0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:13.240 we we counted on that. Now these linings just getting 0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:17.880 thirty five forty five to light, and then the majority 0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:19.960 of these cats you see today just sitting in that 0:24:20.080 --> 0:24:25.240 courting him crying, they crying. Do you feel sorry for him? No? 0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:30.040 I don't. We were lucky. But these little kids today, man, 0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:34.280 they don't. They don't. They never have to deal with consequences, 0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:37.960 you know what I'm saying. So do the big homies. 0:24:39.400 --> 0:24:43.000 How do how do we put how do we change 0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:45.960 the ship? Should? I say? It's hard to do because 0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:50.960 once the motherfucker mind is is conditioned to play a 0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:53.280 certain party, you don't want to play another part. He 0:24:53.320 --> 0:24:55.439 don't want the other role. He don't want the role 0:24:55.520 --> 0:24:58.320 of a good guy because now he believed that all 0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:01.680 the homies is looking down on him because he's thinking 0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:04.640 the right way. So the right way will never show. 0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:09.679 We'll never put on that game face. I wouldn't wear 0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:11.399 that game face because I didn't want to help me 0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:14.080 to think that I was slacking up, I was getting 0:25:14.160 --> 0:25:17.800 soft or whatever. You because if a motherfucker think you're 0:25:17.840 --> 0:25:20.359 getting soft out there, the cold thing about it is 0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:27.800 they're gonna try you. Please believe it. What happened, I said, 0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:32.439 please believe it? Yeah, So you know, I think guys 0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:38.359 are just against all of us, and we we don't 0:25:38.359 --> 0:25:40.639 pay attention and we we don't want to see that 0:25:40.920 --> 0:25:44.879 or here that part of the story, you know. We 0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:50.080 we we want to believe all the bullshit that were 0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:55.680 here and see opposed to thinking and and seeing what's 0:25:55.840 --> 0:26:01.840 right and wrong. Yeah, they for ourselves. Well, if you 0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:05.280 notice today, man, a big part of what's going on 0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:09.520 today too is people don't Men don't communicate with each 0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:13.840 other no more. This is the typical scenario nowadays. I 0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:17.120 got a problem with James. I have james phone number. 0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:20.479 Instead of calling him, I go on Instagram and make 0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:22.560 a post about it, but don't never say his name. 0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:24.560 But you know what I'm talking about him? Well you 0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:26.840 know this and that instead of me picking up the 0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:31.280 phone and calling him, I'll do that. And and you know, 0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:34.320 no offense to our women listeners out there or my feathers. 0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:37.920 But to me, that's really feminine. That's not the way 0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:40.399 of men conduct themselves. If you got a problem with somebody, 0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:43.040 you call that person and you work it out with them, 0:26:43.400 --> 0:26:47.200 even on the back of the box. Communication is the 0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:52.200 main component of getting to understand it. Without communication, you 0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:55.080 can't have an understand it. So that's just something that 0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:59.600 just has to happen, you know, Yeah, it has happened 0:26:59.640 --> 0:27:02.240 under the said for sure, because I know y'all see 0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:04.520 it the mine. It's like, and I'm not gonna going 0:27:04.560 --> 0:27:07.760 to the whole Charlotte Magne thing. Right. Um, there was 0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:12.000 reporting on a brother what's the guy's name, Kama Karma Brown, 0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:15.880 Charlotte Maagne. You know, he went a little bit extra 0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:18.080 with it and saying some stuff about the thing to 0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:21.160 do when hammers, when bunkers. Charlotta Magne wanted this show 0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:26.760 and apologize today. I think that's a manion ship right there. 0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:29.560 He said, you know what, I funked up. I shouldn't 0:27:29.600 --> 0:27:31.720 said that and miss and that he apologized about it. 0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:33.639 A lot of niggas that they're gonna do that, a 0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:35.920 lot of niggas. You know, they're wrong as motherfucking three 0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:38.119 dollar bill. But it's still could carry on with the 0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:41.159 bullshit instead of just the independ may understand you know what, 0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:45.160 my bad, my nigga, I mean no disrespect. At least 0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:48.280 he had the common decency to recognize his and mistake 0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:52.679 and understand why he needed to apologize. You understand, because 0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:57.639 here's the theme. Man, if you think about the NBA right, well, 0:27:57.800 --> 0:28:00.080 look at the world. There's seven over saddling bill and 0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:04.879 people on this planet right maybe five hundred professional basketball 0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:08.280 players with those were centags. The livelihood that anybody making 0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:12.639 to the NBA, it's slim and ned. So if Steven A. 0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:17.760 Smith and Steven Jackson and Mac Barnes and give it arenuses, 0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:20.760 it's jumping on this fool because they don't feel like 0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:25.719 he didn't play to their understanding of or what they 0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:29.359 think he should have played too. That's their problem, you 0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:32.399 understand for them to still be talking about that twenty 0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:35.800 years lady, it's restarted. Man, they didn't have nothing else 0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:39.480 better to talk about. Yeah, that's real ship. You know 0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:41.719 one thing that we gotta stop doing, though, And I'm 0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:44.200 gonna tell you one thing, and I try to practice 0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:50.120 practice this myself, is we gotta stop trying to knock 0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:52.600 the next brother down is doing some ship over Damn 0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:57.000 always us whenever you see somebody talking about it and 0:28:57.040 --> 0:28:59.240 ain't a white boy on TV, the ain't this person, 0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:01.479 ain't a mix of doing it. It's one of us. 0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:05.080 They think they gotta going on. I'm about the tim 0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:07.720 I'm their favorite words, I'm exposed some ship. What the 0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:13.720 fund are you going exposed? No, that's that's we We 0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:16.760 we hate what we see where we can't get for ourselves, 0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:20.520 so we hate the next man. They got it. We 0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:22.640 hate the fact that he got it and I don't. 0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:25.840 And you see a lot of motherfucker's like that. Ma'll 0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:27.800 but tell you way back in the days, and nigga 0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:31.480 hated another motherfucker because this low rider looked better than his. 0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:35.040 I didn't have datings. So now nigga say, the only 0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:37.080 way I can get those datings is to go out 0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:40.320 there and kill the motherfucker for him. No datons was 0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:44.680 easy to get. Everybody had a hustler in the grind, 0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:47.960 but motherfucker's didn't want to. Boyd. We hate on each 0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:51.600 other just because of what we see, but we don't 0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:55.240 have right here. We hate each other because bitches is 0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:57.840 looking at that nigga saying that motherfucker is with it 0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:00.920 that nigga pretty now, And I hate this nigga because 0:30:00.960 --> 0:30:04.520 the bitch is blank. You hate each other just on 0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:11.280 the stress of of of nickerism. What you mentioned that 0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:16.160 people hated Bartender for that man. Bartender was a nice 0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:19.720 looking young man, and all the women, no matter where 0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:24.640 he was from, love that dude. Dude from even his 0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:29.200 own sextional dudes from obviously other sextions hated even just 0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:33.080 for that reason alone. You know exactly did moret they 0:30:33.120 --> 0:30:36.640 women around their motherfucking know nothing. But what I'm saying 0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:42.120 is is we hate what we're not right, we hate 0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:45.360 what we can't beat, but we're seeing somebody else and 0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:50.400 we hate the fact that another motherfucker made it. We 0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:53.520 hate the fact that a black man accomplished something, or 0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:55.840 niggas came from the hood and they're doing this now. 0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:58.480 Oh he thinking this ship. He made it out the hood. 0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:02.440 But look why says for making it? It ain't watching 0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:05.400 somebody walked out to the neighborhood. You know what I'm saying, 0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:09.440 Man watching this, James, There's a guy. His name is 0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:13.840 U Napoleon Hill. Napoleon Hill said one of the most 0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:17.160 powerful emotions that a man has a desire to have sex. 0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:21.120 But if he harness that energy and transmute it into 0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:25.680 a monetary equipment equivalent, he'd be that much further head 0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:28.280 in life. Other words, when he was explaining is that 0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:31.360 if you put your time and energy into building your 0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:35.560 foundation in your life. You don't have no time for 0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:38.040 all that stuff. And then at that point you don't 0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:39.920 have to look for no woman, and the woman gonna 0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:43.160 be looking for you. You understanding, because now you don't 0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:47.600 build this life up and you gotta you gotta stable now, 0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:50.680 you know. But what will happen to are you or 0:31:50.800 --> 0:31:52.440 are some of the people who come up the time 0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:55.240 they put the they put the buggy in front of 0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:58.280 the heart, they start chasing women are doing all this stuff. 0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:01.440 They don't realize that they're losing precious time because they 0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:03.760 could spend that time building their life. And once you 0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:07.720 have your life together, then women come, they come. You 0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:11.200 don't have to look for That's some real ship right there. 0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:13.520 That that's the real ship. But you know what though, man, 0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:17.840 and I know James ain't big on conspiracies, me and 0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:20.600 you are a little bit mal if you look at 0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:23.920 this man, now, let's take it back. If you go 0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:25.920 back and look at the program. And it was on 0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:29.880 TV in the seventies and the eighties, right, it was 0:32:30.040 --> 0:32:33.000 always a play kind of to where the dad was, 0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:35.960 the house was a buffoon, almost like a fool, the 0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:38.720 keys jokes on them and stuff, the mama talking to 0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:42.280 him crazy. You had good times where thelm I was 0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:43.920 talking to the house from that man in this house 0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:45.520 and talk crazy to him or whatever. You know what 0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:47.920 I'm saying. When you had the Jeffersons to where the 0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:50.040 woman come over his house and talk crazy to him, 0:32:50.080 --> 0:32:52.240 you see what I'm saying. They had to listen with 0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:55.080 the white guy. It was all kind of little subliminal 0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:57.840 ship and they always made the man look like a 0:32:58.000 --> 0:33:01.200 damn fool. Well that that was the beginning of the 0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:04.720 feminist movement. That was because of the feminists that started 0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:06.960 all that stuff. It was all it was the slight 0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:10.440 of a hand and subliminal course. But it was due 0:33:10.520 --> 0:33:13.880 to that feminist movement that they felt like women was 0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:19.000 equal to men. But women got to realize that you live, 0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:22.120 you living in the world at me and build see 0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:26.040 because the woman can't run the electoral kain or run 0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:30.760 the up keep uh the infrastructure in this country. That's 0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:33.200 not when we're doing the job already. Women have to 0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:35.920 learn not to do that, you understand. So you took 0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:39.080 all the men away, what would the women do? Yes? 0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:41.560 That and women to our women fans out there, there 0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:52.600 was many miles sce I still in that, you know. 0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:54.960 But the thing was, though, bro, if you go back 0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:58.320 and look at it, the man was always made and 0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:00.480 look like a fool. It's like, if you think about it, 0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:02.560 Married with Children, that was one of the biggest shows 0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:06.000 on TV. Al Bundy was a shoe salesman, right, he 0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:08.960 had a job, but it always showed him just like 0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:11.319 he was just a fool all the time because never 0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:15.680 still did dealing with the feelings movement though still it's 0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:18.000 still it's all a part of it, you know what 0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:20.919 I'm saying. Nothing is exempt from that. We just gotta 0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:25.759 understand why the wise you understand now both of y'all 0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:28.400 you know whether they was good in the end or not. 0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:31.680 You know, we all had men in the household, right, 0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:36.000 I mean also with any of your daddy is a 0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:38.200 step daddies and let some broad coming to the house 0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:42.040 and talk to him crazy. It wouldn't have went down 0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:45.879 to my house because the first thing Willie would have said, 0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:49.120 my step up the last name I karding. He'd have 0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:51.120 told my mama. He would have put this bitch and 0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:53.800 ship you know what I'm saying, or or or my 0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:56.120 hamlet you know what I mean, she ain't gonna being 0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:57.759 here talking crazy to me. You're talking to me any 0:34:57.840 --> 0:34:59.960 kind of way. I remember a woman told my stepdaddy, 0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:02.040 you need to put some shoes on. He said, when 0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:04.359 you start peeing some bells around his motherfucker big thing, 0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:06.200 you can talk to me until then. You ain't gotta 0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:09.160 say ship to me. And I said, damn. I thought 0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:10.520 it was kind of harsh at the time. But what 0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:13.200 he was doing is he was putting the check down. 0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:17.880 So what about daddy overflowing his ass? And then my 0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:21.640 mama shot my father, you ain't putting your hands over 0:35:21.719 --> 0:35:23.839 no more. You ain't talking to me like that no more. 0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:26.680 So the motherucker thought he was gonna go out with 0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:29.960 his bitches at the motorcycle club and come back in 0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:34.000 the house. And and that's that. She set her motherfucking 0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:36.080 ass in the chair with a child on her lap. 0:35:36.280 --> 0:35:38.959 It piss up under the top when that thing opened 0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:43.760 the door. What I thought that was the most gangster 0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:46.879 ship I ever seen. But you know what, though, that's 0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:55.200 what I don't know because he got you together. Though, James, 0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:58.280 I'm gonna tell you this, Stough, that's a pet peeve 0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:01.840 of mine because my thing is this, It ain't no 0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:05.000 way on God's green Earth. No nigga got no reason 0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:07.200 to be putting her hands and the feemale. I tell 0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:10.120 everybody this, if she's making you want whoop her, ask 0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:14.360 and all that she's the right one. That's true. She 0:36:14.400 --> 0:36:16.320 seems the right one. Because I'm gonna tell you a 0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:18.600 woman today, a woman wants me to fight with her ass. 0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:20.520 If my wife liked to fighting all that ship, we 0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:23.200 wouldn't be together. I'm not doing it though, with some 0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:26.800 women like that. Some women like to fight. My my 0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:35.680 uncle's uh, my uncle's girl. She was at the project. Yeah, 0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:40.919 of course I watched her go down with my uncle 0:36:41.000 --> 0:36:45.600 Plo like one nigga come get it, and he was 0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:48.480 busting her ass up. But she was with the business. 0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:51.319 You got some women out there that they ain't gonna 0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:55.160 take that nigga ship. Ain't going for it at all. 0:36:56.040 --> 0:36:58.560 Who wants to? Man. Let me tell you something, I 0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:02.640 don't need a woman. If Nick's three nickas trying to 0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:05.680 jump me and she just stand there holling and hooping 0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:13.480 she joined in, I don't need her. I don't need it. 0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:17.799 But also I don't want my girls fighting fighting. Right, 0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:21.040 every every woman I had in my life, man was 0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:24.560 with the business. My my my ex wife on the 0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:28.800 motorcycle set. I had to tell her, put your motherfucking 0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:31.120 gun back in your tit. I don't have to fight 0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:35.000 every time of Nicka run his mother. She's coming out. 0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:37.719 She's whipping that motherfucking dude five out, ready to pop 0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:43.759 a nigga. My daughter's mama from south Side Pam like Nick, 0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:45.640 if you're gonna fight my nick, and you gotta fight 0:37:45.719 --> 0:37:48.879 me too. I have women that was ready to fight. 0:37:49.000 --> 0:37:51.680 What they do that don't make her a bad woman, 0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:56.640 because I mean, my my oldest son, Mama old lights 0:37:56.719 --> 0:38:01.880 getting motherfucker, pretty as motherfucker, but she ready fight. She 0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:05.440 loved her dude nicking. Y'all ain't gonna do that, feel me. 0:38:05.640 --> 0:38:12.520 My sisters said the j J new Berries with the 0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:20.560 prominentes are as serious robbing too. I don't whatever against 0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:28.120 the woman. Remember huh remember my death? Yeah yeah, man, 0:38:28.200 --> 0:38:32.920 I was right there. Man, right here. Here's the difference 0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:38.359 between a man got a lot of men out there 0:38:38.440 --> 0:38:40.719 that that that let another nigga call him a bit 0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:43.640 or slap him up or push him and kick him around, 0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:46.839 but then he takes that aggression and being because he mad, 0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:50.600 he's gonna go home and call his woman a bitch. No, 0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:54.320 if you ain't mad enough to fight another man for 0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:57.759 disrespecting you, you shouldn't say shipped to your woman for 0:38:57.920 --> 0:39:01.759 disrespecting you. That's the problem here. You got a lot 0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:03.520 of men that all that will beat the ship out 0:39:03.560 --> 0:39:07.680 of a woman, but they are afraid of the big homie, 0:39:07.760 --> 0:39:10.200 the little homie are, or just a man in general. 0:39:11.440 --> 0:39:14.720 That's the problem with motherfucker's. They need to learn their rods. 0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:17.719 If you're a motherfucking man and you're out there with 0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:19.719 the next man, and that man call you a bit 0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:23.239 hand to your business. But if your wife don't cook 0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:25.840 or your girl don't cook dinner, had dinner for you, 0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:28.439 now you want to roll up and be mad? Oh bit, 0:39:28.600 --> 0:39:32.920 you shouldn't know. It's a difference. Some niggas as bitch 0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:35.359 as too, and niggas don't understand that ship. And I'm 0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:37.320 gonna keep in one, honey. There's a whole lot of 0:39:37.440 --> 0:39:41.320 bus niggers out here, a whole lot of them. And 0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:43.640 the difference of that, you got some niggas out of 0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:46.520 here that are fighting anything on the planet. But he 0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:50.520 is still going home and beat up his bron Can't 0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:53.719 you be mad at that nigg putting in the same 0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:56.440 boat as a busy Look what you can be. And 0:39:56.520 --> 0:39:59.280 you ain't gotta beat your girl up like that, true, 0:39:59.360 --> 0:40:01.760 because at that point you ain't gotta prove a motherfucking 0:40:01.840 --> 0:40:05.080 thing to your woman. If your woman is supposed to 0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:10.080 feel safe around you, secure. Yeah, that's what me and 0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:12.880 are with me and are the maintaining the protectives of 0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:16.640 women and children. That's just our petitions. That's our natural position, right, 0:40:17.480 --> 0:40:19.840 That's that's that's that's supposed to be our strength. But 0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:22.560 we don't do that. We don't do that. We don't 0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:24.919 let that ship go so far it's just out of hand. 0:40:25.360 --> 0:40:28.319 So how do we get that ship back? We gotta 0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:32.080 learn and condition ourselves. You know what I'm saying. It 0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:34.520 took me to get to my late forties, my my 0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:38.080 fifties for me to understand what what what type of 0:40:38.200 --> 0:40:40.800 person I wanted to be or or now, And I 0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:44.399 can honestly stand up and tell the next motherfucker I'm 0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:46.000 a man. I know I'm a man. I know what 0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:48.880 a man is now I'd have been through it, but 0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:51.120 I know what the fucking man is. And can't nobody 0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:56.120 take that from you? Can't nobody touch that, and I'm 0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:59.480 gonna protect any and everything that's in my circle. And 0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:04.680 that's me. You feel me absolutely understand and learning that part, 0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:08.640 then I think we'd be better as black man. You 0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:12.959 know what I'm saying? Yeah, absolutely little, Because I'm gonna 0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:16.400 tell you I had one of the coaches y'all know 0:41:16.520 --> 0:41:20.360 my son played football for USC and one of the 0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:23.040 coaches that told my me and my wife that y'all 0:41:23.080 --> 0:41:25.440 are the best parents I've ever seen. Y'all really be 0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:29.640 there for y'all kids. Right. My thing is this, I 0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:32.640 reward my kids for they when they're doing something excellent. 0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:35.520 When they're doing something that's not excellent, they don't give 0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:38.080 rewarded for the stuff, right. I look at it like this. 0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:42.320 We paid for our oldest son to go to college. 0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:44.960 We didn't have to pay for my middle son to 0:41:45.040 --> 0:41:46.800 go to school because he did what he's supposed to 0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:49.360 do with his grades and football and got himself in 0:41:49.440 --> 0:41:51.560 the school. Rewarded that we got in a car, right, 0:41:52.800 --> 0:41:55.359 My oldest son did right, he wanted got him some ship. 0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:57.520 My daughter she on her way so she would get 0:41:57.520 --> 0:42:00.000 her some stuff. If they wasn't here enough, that wouldn't 0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:04.279 happened like that. But even with that being said, I 0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:09.719 always leot my keys know that you're not obligated to 0:42:09.800 --> 0:42:12.440 shift for you doing what you're supposed to do. I'm 0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:15.040 doing this because as a reward for you. But this 0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:16.799 is what you're supposed to do. You supposed to want 0:42:16.920 --> 0:42:18.920 to be good for yourself in life. You see what 0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:21.640 I'm saying. But but but until a certain point, you're 0:42:21.680 --> 0:42:23.960 doing it because you're a parent. And this is what 0:42:24.160 --> 0:42:28.399 parents do. They make their kids great. Your sons want 0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:30.920 to be like dad because dad is doing My dad 0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:33.000 is still here with my mama, so I want to 0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:38.680 be like him. M So let's take Thatt's take it 0:42:38.719 --> 0:42:42.640 a little deeper. So why is it that allows of 0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:46.560 Ball get criticized for doing such an excellent job with 0:42:46.719 --> 0:42:53.479 his three sons? But yeah, the media is only because Yeah, 0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:55.800 that's what I was gonna say. You know what the 0:42:55.840 --> 0:42:58.200 problem with the you know what the problem with the 0:42:58.280 --> 0:43:01.160 media they got with him is he's a black man 0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:04.480 that breaks every stereo type they ever had. This motherfucker 0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:08.000 loved his sons to death. And what you want to say, 0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:10.600 because I'm trying to get one to the NFL, This 0:43:10.760 --> 0:43:13.799 nigga don't got all his kids. The one kid lead. 0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:16.759 He don't got what do you see league or whatever, 0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:20.200 He's still basketball that. I don't want to blame it 0:43:20.320 --> 0:43:24.200 on white people, but I want to say this, Uh, 0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:27.840 people do not want to see black men with with 0:43:28.000 --> 0:43:30.880 strength and power like that that raised their kids and 0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:34.120 and and let the whole world know that I got 0:43:34.239 --> 0:43:37.040 their back. My kids are good. My kids ain't bad, 0:43:37.480 --> 0:43:41.359 and they're there. If every father, if the world's seen 0:43:41.480 --> 0:43:45.719 every black man as a father out there for their 0:43:45.840 --> 0:43:48.239 kids like that, we wouldn't have a problem. If we 0:43:48.360 --> 0:43:53.279 have a date he opened his mouth. Oh no, we 0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:55.040 don't need niggas to act like that. We don't need 0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:58.320 him out of the public like that. So this is 0:43:58.400 --> 0:44:01.560 why it is so important that we control our own media, 0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:04.480 because if we control our own media, we get to 0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:08.239 put the images out there that that is respectful to see, 0:44:08.360 --> 0:44:11.040 that show black men doing these type of things and 0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:13.880 not and they don't be in the hands of individuals 0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:16.640 that don't have our best interest because it's still the 0:44:16.719 --> 0:44:18.960 Willie Lynch syndrome going on, because they want to put 0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:22.520 out the people that that's not so doing so well 0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:24.759 or going through the society, but they don't want to 0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:27.840 highlight and showcase the lines of the Balls, the Steals, 0:44:27.960 --> 0:44:29.880 the James and the Melly Mills. They don't want to 0:44:29.920 --> 0:44:33.360 do that because then then they got to change the subject. 0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:35.960 That's the topic has got the change the way to 0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:39.560 how we are being defined in this society. So that's 0:44:39.560 --> 0:44:42.040 why it's important that we get on stay on code, 0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:46.200 and we gain access to our own controling our all media. 0:44:46.320 --> 0:44:50.320 That's why when I'm doing the Hood Postman, I always 0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:55.759 say I take individuals that turn negatives into positives. That's 0:44:55.760 --> 0:45:02.759 what I'm interested in exact. So Linzo Ball, we need 0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:04.359 you want to show a big dog, I'm gonna get 0:45:04.360 --> 0:45:09.000 actual people. He comes back that he come to speak 0:45:09.040 --> 0:45:11.400 that truth, man, because we're gonna get you on here, 0:45:11.440 --> 0:45:13.680 bro and get your flowers. Wingo gets you on here 0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:15.720 to talk about that because that man is a great 0:45:15.800 --> 0:45:18.880 father and he's a great us. I'm gonna tell you, 0:45:19.080 --> 0:45:21.880 I'll fought with that little show. That man's wife had 0:45:21.920 --> 0:45:25.279 a stroke. He take care of that woman, built a 0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:27.520 little park in the backyard. He take care of them kid, 0:45:27.560 --> 0:45:30.719 and he loved his keys dog. What's wrong? You know 0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:33.120 if he hadn't took care of her, she'd be dead 0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:35.839 based on how the medical people treat our people when 0:45:35.880 --> 0:45:38.680 they go in the hospital, she'd be dead by them 0:45:38.960 --> 0:45:43.080 depending on them people, right exactly. That man took that 0:45:43.280 --> 0:45:46.479 safe circumstance in that situation to his own hand and said, 0:45:46.640 --> 0:45:49.640 I'm gonna get these bugs. I'm gonna get these alternative medicines. 0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:51.719 Where are that, I'm going to get my wife. I'm 0:45:51.800 --> 0:45:53.960 gonna take care of my wife. Don't don't worries. I 0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:56.440 don't need y'all. Hill, let me take care of this 0:45:57.239 --> 0:45:59.600 because you know what I told somebody, and see this 0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:01.960 is what I mean. That's why getting me so piste 0:46:02.000 --> 0:46:04.600 off when I see us attacking each other. As soon 0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:07.000 as the man had put his own his sons all 0:46:07.160 --> 0:46:10.480 had their own clothing brands. He made their own tennis shoes. 0:46:10.520 --> 0:46:13.000 The first thing you see niggas, oh them shoes. Utherly 0:46:13.320 --> 0:46:16.160 they're too expensive. Oh man, ain't nobody can wear those. 0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:18.680 It's like, man, why don't you just if you don't 0:46:18.719 --> 0:46:21.200 want to buy them, don't go buy. But don't try 0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:23.960 to stop everybody else from supporting the brothers. They want 0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:25.920 to do some ship and that's the biggest problem with us. 0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:30.480 Dog another black man that didn't look like man, I 0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:34.920 shouldn't have bought ship, but we we support well. I 0:46:35.000 --> 0:46:39.480 don't buy them motherfucker's by Michael Jordan's motherfucker by tennis 0:46:39.480 --> 0:46:42.080 shoes because they want to they want to look like that. 0:46:42.480 --> 0:46:45.360 They got tennis shoes out there five six dollars today. 0:46:46.120 --> 0:46:50.360 I wish you would. I wouldn't, I wish I would, 0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:55.640 But but check this out those y'all. I'm gonna tell 0:46:55.640 --> 0:46:59.640 you what motherfucker's will do. What's his name? And them um, 0:47:00.120 --> 0:47:02.279 she and them could call us niggas behind our back 0:47:03.080 --> 0:47:05.879 and could do all this ship put the um put 0:47:05.960 --> 0:47:08.680 the depict the black people with the watermelon and the 0:47:08.760 --> 0:47:10.839 big lips and all that ship. They can do that ship. 0:47:11.600 --> 0:47:13.359 It can come out to day that goof she hate 0:47:13.400 --> 0:47:16.160 black people, the motherfucker's still gonna sell a big in 0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:19.520 dollars works ship to black people because guess what, these 0:47:19.600 --> 0:47:22.439 punk ask rappers go stealbo water wear the ship. These 0:47:22.600 --> 0:47:24.719 entertains little steal water wear the ship. So there for 0:47:24.840 --> 0:47:26.520 them kids will water wear because they don't give a 0:47:26.520 --> 0:47:28.000 funk at the end of the day. At the end 0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:30.240 of the day, niggas hate niggas. Though I really believe 0:47:30.320 --> 0:47:33.160 that alright, James say she was gonna say, I said, 0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:36.640 it ain't. That is we don't understand how much problem 0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:39.759 we have in our neighborhoods, in our community. We you know, 0:47:40.040 --> 0:47:43.880 a liquor store couldn't stand there, couldn't stay open if 0:47:43.920 --> 0:47:46.920 we didn't go in that motherfucker. You know what I'm saying. 0:47:47.440 --> 0:47:51.239 We got motherfucker's and liquor stores coming out and point 0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:54.120 guns at you. Get the funk out of my store 0:47:54.320 --> 0:47:57.480 or away from the parking line. This is part of 0:47:57.520 --> 0:48:01.000 our neighborhood. But we we support the motherfucker's still and 0:48:01.200 --> 0:48:03.200 you see if they could walk right past you after 0:48:03.239 --> 0:48:05.759 they're talking all that ship and don't want to serve 0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:09.319 you nothing, but we're still walking. That motherfucker's throwing by. 0:48:10.480 --> 0:48:13.759 That's a real ship. That's that's that's that bullshit is 0:48:13.840 --> 0:48:16.200 on us. We gotta see how much problem we had 0:48:16.600 --> 0:48:19.000 now y'all won't be here if we didn't sunk with y'all. 0:48:19.760 --> 0:48:21.640 So let's not funk with him. Let's get him out 0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:23.320 of there, because they ain't bringing that money back to 0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:26.400 the neighborhood and helping with the school or parking. No 0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:29.640 ship like that. They're taking that ship back home or 0:48:29.719 --> 0:48:33.200 back to their country. Yeah, that's some real ship. You know. 0:48:33.480 --> 0:48:37.080 He helps everybody, but but us, we don't help each other. 0:48:37.200 --> 0:48:40.320 We don't help us. And you know what I do 0:48:40.440 --> 0:48:43.359 want to do and I want to be example of that. Man. 0:48:43.880 --> 0:48:47.839 On another note, this kid had reached out to UM. 0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:50.640 I think he reached out to all of us on Instagram. Right. 0:48:51.360 --> 0:48:53.640 This kid is twelve years old and has its own 0:48:53.719 --> 0:48:58.520 clothing brand. UM, it's the Resign twenty four. They sent 0:48:58.600 --> 0:49:02.600 you some stuff, James. Now, yeah, they're gonna be sending 0:49:02.640 --> 0:49:05.160 you to check your imbox on your thing. They gotta 0:49:05.160 --> 0:49:07.840 clothe you, gotta cloth brand Resigned twenty four. We go 0:49:08.040 --> 0:49:10.400 post some pictures of this stuff on our Instagram page 0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:12.440 and stuff like that. But he sent us, He sent 0:49:12.640 --> 0:49:15.279 us all individually a package. And I'm hook you up 0:49:15.280 --> 0:49:17.200 because that mama been trying to she's probably trying to 0:49:17.200 --> 0:49:20.879 get actually, James, but this kid is twelve years old, man, 0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:24.160 and designed this stuff. The mama asked me when you 0:49:24.239 --> 0:49:26.440 supported I know this ain't the perfect thing of it, 0:49:26.840 --> 0:49:29.200 but he got some those stuff. Man twelve years old 0:49:29.239 --> 0:49:32.399 got a clothing brand. How would I look like? Yeah? 0:49:32.480 --> 0:49:34.360 How would I look as a brother? And the older 0:49:34.440 --> 0:49:40.080 brother this preach black excellence, to deny him of that, 0:49:40.280 --> 0:49:43.280 you noticed, to expose him to people in our platform 0:49:43.320 --> 0:49:45.160 and stuff like that. Man, I thought that was incredible. 0:49:45.200 --> 0:49:47.560 So shout out to re sign man. Y'all gonna check 0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:52.040 his page out and everything. But at the serial wo Mac. 0:49:52.480 --> 0:49:56.560 That's his Instagram page in a s e er wooll Mac. 0:49:57.320 --> 0:50:01.200 The man and I just thought that was real. Like, 0:50:01.600 --> 0:50:03.640 I thought that was incredible. Man. I said, this dude 0:50:03.719 --> 0:50:09.640 twelve years old and got his own clothing brain and actually, yeah, 0:50:09.680 --> 0:50:12.040 now I see it. Woman. He actor, he young kid 0:50:12.120 --> 0:50:14.600 from Long Beach man out there doing this thing. Man, 0:50:14.680 --> 0:50:16.759 shout out to him, Man, we appreciate your little brother. 0:50:16.880 --> 0:50:20.960 Keep going STROMP. You know, but if we start supporting 0:50:21.000 --> 0:50:23.160 our own man like and I keep telling people, I 0:50:23.200 --> 0:50:25.160 don't say it a couple of episodes and hopefully we 0:50:25.280 --> 0:50:28.600 can do it one day. If every black man, woman 0:50:28.640 --> 0:50:31.239 and child in this country decided two days, we're not 0:50:31.320 --> 0:50:33.239 gonna spend no money with nobody else. If we go 0:50:33.280 --> 0:50:37.320 to the grocery store, hell, go to fifty four, go 0:50:37.400 --> 0:50:39.799 to the Missing Story. You know what I mean. We're 0:50:39.840 --> 0:50:42.239 not going the Walmark. We're not spend the money. On 0:50:42.360 --> 0:50:45.319 target on mcdownalds. I'm gonna tell you this motherfucker would 0:50:45.320 --> 0:50:47.120 be shut down. They would have to bow down on us, 0:50:47.160 --> 0:50:48.919 but we'd not ever be able to do it because 0:50:48.920 --> 0:50:51.399 it's always gonna be a motherfucker's saying. Oh, I don't 0:50:51.440 --> 0:50:53.239 give a funk about that ship that nig is talking 0:50:53.280 --> 0:50:55.360 about over there. I'm gonna go get my coffee, but 0:50:55.440 --> 0:50:59.080 I'm gonna go over and get this. I got another 0:50:59.239 --> 0:51:02.640 question for you and James and m Hopefully you guys 0:51:02.719 --> 0:51:06.600 get up talk about it or at least give us 0:51:06.680 --> 0:51:09.200 some insight on it. What do you think about these 0:51:09.360 --> 0:51:14.080 rappers that claimed neighborhoods, they claimed tribes in Compton, l 0:51:14.160 --> 0:51:17.960 A and Watch. What's what's your take on that? You 0:51:18.080 --> 0:51:22.000 know what, man? You want to go first, James, this 0:51:22.160 --> 0:51:24.640 is what I think about it, man. I think brothers 0:51:24.719 --> 0:51:29.160 need to be true to who they are because the 0:51:29.360 --> 0:51:32.600 real cripts and bloods. I know the rappers they made 0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:34.520 mixing to hear in these songs, but it ain't they 0:51:34.600 --> 0:51:37.399 whole thing. It ain't they whold. You feel what I'm saying, 0:51:37.400 --> 0:51:39.560 They don't go overboard with it. You feel what I'm saying. 0:51:40.360 --> 0:51:43.600 I know one of the biggest um blood exists in 0:51:43.640 --> 0:51:45.719 the game. Man. That's where I've never heard this dude 0:51:45.719 --> 0:51:49.399 say blood one time. I ain't never heard James say 0:51:49.440 --> 0:51:53.239 blood before. So the real king that's got what I'm 0:51:53.280 --> 0:51:55.320 talking I'm talking about the dudes that grew up in 0:51:55.480 --> 0:51:59.399 these these uh suburban homes, that grew up in upper 0:51:59.440 --> 0:52:03.919 middle class asked suburbia, never knew anything about the game, 0:52:04.560 --> 0:52:08.239 but somehow got got only made a think uh hit 0:52:08.320 --> 0:52:11.840 record wrap and then they decide, well, I'm gonna go 0:52:11.920 --> 0:52:15.600 to Compton and I'm gonna go claim mob. I'm gonna 0:52:15.640 --> 0:52:18.279 go claim cent Town. I'm gonna go clain Proof Town. 0:52:18.400 --> 0:52:21.399 I'm talking about those in the business. A lot of guys, 0:52:21.560 --> 0:52:24.440 A lot of those guys, they sit back, listen to 0:52:25.000 --> 0:52:29.120 your MTV raps and then just like this, they figured 0:52:29.120 --> 0:52:31.840 out they have a challenge. They know the rap, but 0:52:32.000 --> 0:52:34.239 with the talent going out there and trying to get 0:52:34.280 --> 0:52:38.560 a record deal, get sound or heard, motherfucker's realized they 0:52:38.680 --> 0:52:44.000 need a image. They need to the image that you 0:52:44.120 --> 0:52:48.160 see with with most gangster rappers. They feel that they 0:52:48.239 --> 0:52:52.479 need that, so they reach out to the gangsters. Let's 0:52:52.480 --> 0:52:56.000 say you know, a certain individual knew that he didn't 0:52:56.000 --> 0:52:59.680 have an in him too pull it off and do this. 0:53:00.000 --> 0:53:02.879 So I needed real gangs that I needed these motherfucker's 0:53:03.320 --> 0:53:07.640 to make my dream come true. You know, rap, whether 0:53:07.760 --> 0:53:10.600 he didn't rap, whatever, he knew that he had to 0:53:10.719 --> 0:53:13.680 have that image. And a lot of these cats coming 0:53:13.719 --> 0:53:17.000 from Beverly Hills, these white boys want to be rappers. 0:53:17.520 --> 0:53:21.200 They know that they need an image. They need to 0:53:21.360 --> 0:53:23.680 go to a hood. That's the only way they can 0:53:23.760 --> 0:53:26.960 pull it off. And the money played a big part 0:53:27.000 --> 0:53:29.279 of that because a lot of the guys in the 0:53:29.360 --> 0:53:32.600 hood don't gonna have a way out already. So what 0:53:33.000 --> 0:53:37.000 why shouldn't not let his motherfucker slide in and and 0:53:37.160 --> 0:53:40.800 play that party, payed forward that and and that's and 0:53:40.920 --> 0:53:44.719 that's what my point is that that's blind. But we 0:53:44.840 --> 0:53:47.360 need to get a nune to score your agreement from you, 0:53:47.760 --> 0:53:50.399 so we don't get to get to Kasi six nine 0:53:50.480 --> 0:53:52.960 by you if you decide to go the other way, 0:53:53.239 --> 0:53:56.120 because we need to be compensated in a way that 0:53:56.280 --> 0:53:59.239 fits this tribe situation. You know what I mean, Because 0:53:59.680 --> 0:54:01.920 you all this money, but then you want to run 0:54:02.000 --> 0:54:06.840 away from the circumstances you play it self. Destruction is 0:54:07.640 --> 0:54:10.759 already in the hood. We already got our fingers on 0:54:10.800 --> 0:54:14.680 the destruction button. To be a hood and to be 0:54:15.000 --> 0:54:19.600 certified in the hood. We should never allow motherfucker's to 0:54:19.719 --> 0:54:24.120 come in our motherfucking neighborhoods and perpetrate anything a rapper, 0:54:24.719 --> 0:54:29.520 uh actor or whomever. If you ain't coming to my 0:54:29.640 --> 0:54:33.200 hood to say I think you got talent, let me 0:54:33.320 --> 0:54:36.399 put you in the movie funck having niggas come and say, 0:54:36.600 --> 0:54:38.440 I want to be from your hood. I'm gonna go 0:54:38.600 --> 0:54:41.080 thirty thousand, They go ten thousand. I want to be 0:54:41.200 --> 0:54:45.239 from the hood. What he do out there represents everybody 0:54:45.920 --> 0:54:50.239 in that hood, just like just uh six nine jakasshu 0:54:51.440 --> 0:54:54.200 think that that dude did. The homies opened the door 0:54:54.280 --> 0:54:56.640 for that ship, and then now they allow it because 0:54:57.160 --> 0:55:01.560 the money has blinded us. Now that ain't no hoodship 0:55:01.680 --> 0:55:06.520 no more. Now now niggas is on survival mode. Now 0:55:06.640 --> 0:55:11.680 niggas are doing fifteen and twenty in prison because of 0:55:11.760 --> 0:55:16.000 the consequences because we allow people to infantrate what we 0:55:16.120 --> 0:55:20.680 are and perpetrate what we are and they're not. So 0:55:20.840 --> 0:55:24.360 it ain't uh six nine, motherfucking fault. It ain't sure 0:55:24.520 --> 0:55:27.120 knife fall, it ain't it ain't none of these other 0:55:27.200 --> 0:55:30.399 guys that in the hood trying to be from the hood. 0:55:30.440 --> 0:55:32.279 They don't want to be from the hood. They just 0:55:32.440 --> 0:55:36.000 need the hood to get big, right, So they're using 0:55:36.040 --> 0:55:39.960 the hood for a purpose. That's all it is. And 0:55:40.040 --> 0:55:42.919 but motherfucker ain't and and broke bread in the hood 0:55:43.239 --> 0:55:45.960 and spill no blood in the hood. You could never 0:55:46.160 --> 0:55:50.239 be a lott nigga period. You can never be. I 0:55:50.239 --> 0:55:51.839 don't give a funk what you do and how much 0:55:51.880 --> 0:55:56.520 money you got because he's not here. It's not here. 0:55:57.520 --> 0:56:00.360 You don't even know how to think like a motherfucking gainster. 0:56:01.320 --> 0:56:05.640 You can perpetrate a fraud all day because then niggas 0:56:05.680 --> 0:56:08.160 ain't looking because they already got their blind bowls on 0:56:08.280 --> 0:56:11.279 because they're getting paid. So when the ship get real, 0:56:11.400 --> 0:56:14.040 then that's when you see the real that was really 0:56:14.160 --> 0:56:17.400 in them, that was something for in an alien to 0:56:17.560 --> 0:56:23.040 what you had. Survival mode is a motherfucker. Anybody, anybody 0:56:23.120 --> 0:56:25.440 that feels threatened and see that the ship is coming, 0:56:25.760 --> 0:56:29.480 they're gonna either crawl up, they're gonna ball up, roll up, 0:56:29.840 --> 0:56:31.719 or they're gonna try to get the funk out of there, 0:56:32.000 --> 0:56:35.360 or they're gonna give it up. Survival motive is a 0:56:35.440 --> 0:56:38.840 motherfucker and it comes in all shape, size and forms 0:56:38.920 --> 0:56:42.760 the whole mine. If you ain't something made, if gainst 0:56:42.760 --> 0:56:46.040 somebody nature, not by choice, If you don't understand what 0:56:46.280 --> 0:56:49.600 you are and where you're going with what you're doing, 0:56:50.239 --> 0:56:54.040 you ain't ship. You ain't ship you. You're just walking 0:56:54.080 --> 0:56:58.080 into motherfucking on the in the dead alley. One way 0:56:58.160 --> 0:57:01.120 to go, one way out. Now when you get to 0:57:01.160 --> 0:57:02.759 the end, and then had to come back, what you're 0:57:02.760 --> 0:57:04.640 gonna do, because you know these motherfucker's at the end 0:57:04.680 --> 0:57:08.879 of this motherfucker waiting for you. They don't they don't 0:57:08.920 --> 0:57:11.880 even anticipate that. The niggers that they they're rolling with 0:57:12.120 --> 0:57:15.799 got tune stone mind so sets and grave yard dispositions 0:57:16.000 --> 0:57:22.560 for real, for every situation. The two motherfucker's that they 0:57:22.600 --> 0:57:25.000 sought out and they looked for to get to help 0:57:25.120 --> 0:57:27.360 them get to where they want or help them build 0:57:27.920 --> 0:57:30.960 their their their their repertoire, whatever the case might be. 0:57:31.600 --> 0:57:34.920 Them the two motherfucker's in the hood thinking we hustlick, 0:57:35.400 --> 0:57:37.680 we're gonna talk this, and they got this paper, we're 0:57:37.720 --> 0:57:40.560 gonna get this money. Y'alla, y'alla, And at the end 0:57:40.600 --> 0:57:42.560 of the day, everybody that tried to do that and 0:57:42.720 --> 0:57:46.720 back by it on their ass, yea, and back by 0:57:46.760 --> 0:57:53.640 it on it because number one, ie, motherfucker's what I 0:57:53.840 --> 0:57:56.960 think I should give you. That was when I'm down 0:57:57.120 --> 0:58:00.680 for us. We got what we what he thought we deserved, 0:58:00.720 --> 0:58:03.240 of what we was gonna get. It was never intended 0:58:03.280 --> 0:58:06.280 for us to get bitch or after hood. It was 0:58:06.360 --> 0:58:09.920 only intended for us to come and and and and 0:58:10.080 --> 0:58:12.400 school him on what he wanted to be and what 0:58:12.600 --> 0:58:19.520 he wanted to see exactly explain. Yeah, So that's that's 0:58:19.640 --> 0:58:21.680 that's what that is. And and you know, I just 0:58:21.800 --> 0:58:24.640 think that if you're from the hood, man, the certain 0:58:24.720 --> 0:58:28.120 rules that you just don't allow you don't allow anybody 0:58:28.200 --> 0:58:30.800 to come in the hood because it's a disrespect that 0:58:30.920 --> 0:58:34.320 every homey that died on the block right in prison 0:58:35.080 --> 0:58:38.280 should let him come in infantrate or portray to be 0:58:38.800 --> 0:58:41.760 a thud nigga and we know he's not right right 0:58:41.960 --> 0:58:47.600 right or that ship and and talk about nigga. This 0:58:47.720 --> 0:58:51.760 Santana nigga. You're from Milwaukee. You ain't never been in 0:58:51.800 --> 0:58:54.160 the hood, you ain't never broke bread. How can you 0:58:54.320 --> 0:58:56.600 claim this? How can you put that on your body 0:58:58.000 --> 0:59:01.280 that's not for you, and that's disrespect you. Every hoomi 0:59:01.320 --> 0:59:03.760 that's won't get and living, every nigga that even thought 0:59:03.760 --> 0:59:07.200 about being a cripuck blood should be mad at that ship. 0:59:08.880 --> 0:59:11.960 We live our life. We wake up put on not drawings. Something. 0:59:12.000 --> 0:59:16.360 Niggas won't even wear blue underwear because they so blooded out. Something. 0:59:16.400 --> 0:59:18.320 You don't even put on the red t shirt off 0:59:18.640 --> 0:59:21.800 or use red toothpage because they're so cript out of 0:59:21.840 --> 0:59:25.320 lowed out. But you're lit uh, light skinned version of 0:59:25.920 --> 0:59:29.160 Michael Jackson coming this motherfucker and say let's beat it, 0:59:29.320 --> 0:59:32.480 and let's this, let's work. And now you don't dodge 0:59:32.520 --> 0:59:35.680 your motherfucking hair. Now you don't play this nigga game. 0:59:36.000 --> 0:59:38.760 And now you man, let me not get started. Man, 0:59:39.160 --> 0:59:44.840 it ain't working. Man on that note, Man, that's a 0:59:44.920 --> 0:59:47.800 perfect way man in this man, Milly mao, Man, we 0:59:47.920 --> 0:59:52.000 appreciate you coming in man and sit with us. Man. Man, 0:59:52.880 --> 0:59:58.120 let me give me, let me get my info out there. Man. Yeah, 0:59:58.120 --> 1:00:00.360 but that's a melly man on the Hood po Man. 1:00:00.480 --> 1:00:06.680 Go follow me on YouTube, Instagram, the Hood Postman on Twitter, Twitter, 1:00:06.880 --> 1:00:10.720 The Hood post Man and Milly Gibson on Facebook. Man, 1:00:10.800 --> 1:00:13.280 be sure to follow me, man, I we're gonna get 1:00:13.320 --> 1:00:15.600 this same popping man. We're gonna get it together because 1:00:16.800 --> 1:00:21.000 big still James m c a man. They stay on 1:00:21.160 --> 1:00:25.120 cold Man. Thanks the chronic post right the shore. And 1:00:25.200 --> 1:00:27.560 we appreciate you. Man. We got James, you know, I 1:00:27.640 --> 1:00:28.920 know it's a little bit and he was about to 1:00:28.960 --> 1:00:30.880 say some movies you're gonna say migg No. I was 1:00:30.960 --> 1:00:34.360 just saying, man, everybody got to hear Millie Mayo. When 1:00:34.360 --> 1:00:36.960 I first heard you, I was like, this motherfucker he 1:00:37.080 --> 1:00:41.200 got he got some hood knowledge he understand and not 1:00:41.400 --> 1:00:44.160 for the people on the outside, but the people on 1:00:44.240 --> 1:00:47.840 the inside and the hood mail. These cats need to 1:00:47.920 --> 1:00:50.640 hear that that that voice. These cats need to hear 1:00:50.720 --> 1:00:55.000 that knowledge or what the hood is. I appreciate that, James, man. 1:00:55.120 --> 1:00:57.240 They need to they need to get it because a 1:00:57.320 --> 1:00:59.920 lot of cats is walking with depends halfway off their 1:01:00.000 --> 1:01:02.320 as and don't even know why they're doing it. These 1:01:02.400 --> 1:01:05.560 niggas ain't taught ship, ain't learned ship. And that's why 1:01:05.680 --> 1:01:08.680 gag banging is fucked up today because they don't got 1:01:08.880 --> 1:01:12.120 and they can't absorb the knowledge that you're putting out there. 1:01:12.760 --> 1:01:17.560 They don't understand the ship and I tell each and everybody, Man, 1:01:17.640 --> 1:01:20.000 don't wait till you fifty seven years old to say 1:01:20.040 --> 1:01:23.760 I give. Man. I gave a long time ago, but 1:01:23.840 --> 1:01:25.600 I didn't know how to. I didn't know how to 1:01:25.640 --> 1:01:28.320 throw my hands up and surrender my brothers. But now 1:01:28.320 --> 1:01:31.320 that I know, and if it is what it is 1:01:31.600 --> 1:01:34.480 on that man, I said, both of your brothers. Man, 1:01:34.880 --> 1:01:44.320 I'm about with James mcjo still an m c A tonight. 1:01:44.400 --> 1:01:47.160 We have special guests in here. He's the former CEO 1:01:47.240 --> 1:01:50.320 of No Limit Records. Mr Toben Corson. Are you doing 1:01:50.400 --> 1:01:53.400 like Toby Hey, are you doing? Norms? Good to see still. 1:01:54.160 --> 1:01:56.240 Thanks for having me on the show, man, I mean 1:01:56.320 --> 1:01:58.720 I've been waiting. You got all the all the hottest, 1:01:58.960 --> 1:02:00.840 hottest people on the show us. So I was like, Man, 1:02:00.960 --> 1:02:02.720 the fact he reached out to me to be on it, 1:02:02.800 --> 1:02:05.680 I'm I'm blessed and I appreciate that. Oh for sure, Man, 1:02:05.760 --> 1:02:07.840 We're glad they have you on the show, Man, because 1:02:08.320 --> 1:02:10.720 you know, and looking at the No Limit chronicles like 1:02:10.800 --> 1:02:12.680 everybody else in the comfory at the time when it 1:02:12.760 --> 1:02:15.080 came out. I think, like everybody else in the comfort 1:02:15.200 --> 1:02:17.880 the time, I was, you know, binging No Limit back 1:02:17.920 --> 1:02:20.920 in the day, just like everybody else. Yes, how did 1:02:21.000 --> 1:02:23.600 you initially hook up? What was your background? Like, how 1:02:23.640 --> 1:02:25.800 did you guys like connect? Well, you know, I was 1:02:25.920 --> 1:02:29.160 in UH. I was in college radio, spinning records and UH. 1:02:29.800 --> 1:02:33.280 I actually UH was doing a show and this is 1:02:33.360 --> 1:02:37.600 about ninety two, and I had my god brother used 1:02:37.600 --> 1:02:40.440 to UH used to work at the foot locker. He 1:02:40.520 --> 1:02:42.440 was the manager at the foot lockers, so he used 1:02:42.440 --> 1:02:44.439 to go in there all the time and my tennis shoes. 1:02:45.000 --> 1:02:46.520 So I was trying to do a show and had 1:02:46.560 --> 1:02:48.720 a rapper dawn out on me at the last minute, 1:02:48.760 --> 1:02:50.320 and I just had to be talking to my god 1:02:50.400 --> 1:02:53.040 brother and he was like, man, I got this cat 1:02:53.200 --> 1:02:55.560 master P. I know he'll show up to do a 1:02:55.600 --> 1:02:57.959 show for you. And I hadn't you know, I didn't 1:02:58.000 --> 1:03:00.320 know who he was. I didn't know what, no anything 1:03:00.360 --> 1:03:02.760 about him other than I just needed a rapper to 1:03:02.840 --> 1:03:05.600 do a show. And he came out. I had a 1:03:05.640 --> 1:03:07.840 couple of dollars, put a couple of dollars in his pocket. 1:03:07.920 --> 1:03:09.960 But he came out here at the T shirts and 1:03:10.240 --> 1:03:12.400 did a cool show. And then we met each other 1:03:12.520 --> 1:03:15.480 and kind of just hit it off. So we just 1:03:15.640 --> 1:03:18.240 kind of kept in contact during that time, and I 1:03:18.240 --> 1:03:20.560 would do He would send me stuff and I promote 1:03:20.720 --> 1:03:23.880 and and play, you know, play music on the radio 1:03:24.000 --> 1:03:25.480 and that kind of stuff. He'd had to send me 1:03:25.520 --> 1:03:28.200 these cassette tapes and I played these cassette tapes and 1:03:28.320 --> 1:03:31.240 I do some giveaway stuff. And that's how we kind 1:03:31.280 --> 1:03:36.760 of built a relationship. And it wasn't until it is 1:03:36.840 --> 1:03:39.640 when I kind of came off board and just really 1:03:39.720 --> 1:03:44.160 started working working for No Limit in a variety capacity. 1:03:44.760 --> 1:03:49.440 And then at that time in I had already known St. Charles, 1:03:49.600 --> 1:03:53.440 who Forty's uncle was always sending me promotional stuff for 1:03:53.520 --> 1:03:55.880 me to promote, and I was promoting Forty and The 1:03:55.960 --> 1:04:00.920 Click and all those guys. And actually St. Charles was 1:04:01.000 --> 1:04:03.640 the one who had told Pete man, you really need 1:04:03.720 --> 1:04:06.800 to get Tobin to run the label and be your 1:04:06.880 --> 1:04:09.640 manager because you really need to show that kind of 1:04:09.720 --> 1:04:13.600 professional business side. And at that point he just said, yeah, 1:04:13.760 --> 1:04:16.560 you know, let's do this. Because I had already cultivated 1:04:16.600 --> 1:04:20.000 a good relationship. I had all these ideas about marketing 1:04:20.200 --> 1:04:23.320 and different strategy and how to how to get more 1:04:23.400 --> 1:04:27.240 positioning in retail and really how to try to sell 1:04:27.360 --> 1:04:31.120 records without necessarily having that radio play and going through 1:04:31.240 --> 1:04:34.200 college radio and get and kind of building that buzz 1:04:34.280 --> 1:04:37.560 and building that name. And then at that time when St. 1:04:37.640 --> 1:04:40.560 Charles reached out to and St. Charles was talking to 1:04:40.640 --> 1:04:43.600 Pete Man, you really need to get with Toben. He's 1:04:43.640 --> 1:04:45.720 the one that said, Okay, you're gonna run the label. 1:04:45.800 --> 1:04:49.480 You're gonna be my manager, business and personal manager. And 1:04:49.840 --> 1:04:51.840 and that's kind of how things kind of took off 1:04:51.920 --> 1:04:54.919 from there, because if you look at how no limit 1:04:55.000 --> 1:04:59.080 was structured prior to that point and be coming out board, 1:04:59.160 --> 1:05:02.400 he put out probably about seventeen different projects that no 1:05:02.520 --> 1:05:06.000 one was really checking for. And then when we got 1:05:06.120 --> 1:05:09.240 together and we did the Ghettos Trying to Kill Me 1:05:09.760 --> 1:05:12.240 and then we put together the West Coast Bad Boys, 1:05:12.320 --> 1:05:14.600 that's what things started to take off from there. Let 1:05:14.680 --> 1:05:18.040 me So, what do you think it was that wasn't 1:05:18.040 --> 1:05:20.840 orisonate with the people about Peas music at first? Well? 1:05:20.920 --> 1:05:24.280 I think it was. You gotta understand that that he 1:05:24.600 --> 1:05:27.840 quite didn't have his have his own sound. If you 1:05:27.960 --> 1:05:30.440 listen to all the old stuff prior to the Ghettos 1:05:30.480 --> 1:05:34.000 Trying to Kill Me, production was it was okay, but 1:05:34.160 --> 1:05:37.160 it wasn't really at that professional level. So when people 1:05:37.200 --> 1:05:38.840 would listen to it, they were kind of like, well, 1:05:39.760 --> 1:05:42.640 they would listen to it, but they weren't really like, Okay, 1:05:42.680 --> 1:05:45.400 I gotta buy this record. And I think what happened 1:05:45.560 --> 1:05:49.400 was when we started to to work with folks like 1:05:49.680 --> 1:05:53.040 you know, Al Eden and Keim Franklin and really start 1:05:53.160 --> 1:05:56.560 developing that West Coast sound, that's what people wanted to 1:05:57.280 --> 1:06:00.360 listen to. More of what he was doing, like e. A. 1:06:00.560 --> 1:06:04.680 Ski and his production. That's when people started really like, okay, 1:06:04.800 --> 1:06:07.520 this is we taken our production game to another level. 1:06:07.920 --> 1:06:10.240 And then people wanted to hear what he was doing 1:06:10.560 --> 1:06:12.960 because he sure seemed like he came out of nowhere. 1:06:13.040 --> 1:06:16.120 So he had seventeen He had seventeen full length albums 1:06:16.120 --> 1:06:19.040 out before that, but they weren't full leaks, but they 1:06:19.080 --> 1:06:22.560 were singles, EPs, albums, all kinds of projects he was 1:06:22.680 --> 1:06:25.840 doing prior to So, like anyone who watches the No 1:06:26.000 --> 1:06:29.240 Limit Chronicles to see, it started off from a retail 1:06:29.320 --> 1:06:32.160 store and it was doing shows and opening up for 1:06:32.280 --> 1:06:36.040 people and doing promotion and it took a it took 1:06:36.040 --> 1:06:38.360 a while. It was years. So if you think about 1:06:39.480 --> 1:06:43.960 eighty nine, when when when No Limits started to ninety two, 1:06:44.120 --> 1:06:46.400 when I kind of came on board to ninety three 1:06:46.480 --> 1:06:49.520 when we started to get regional success, and by the 1:06:49.680 --> 1:06:52.840 time we came out in ninety four with the West 1:06:52.920 --> 1:06:56.880 Coast Bad Boys, that's what put P on the map nationally. 1:06:57.240 --> 1:06:59.919 So even though it was a West Coast record, people 1:07:00.200 --> 1:07:03.720 from the Midwest and Pardon the South started to want 1:07:03.760 --> 1:07:06.240 to check out this West because bad boy sound and 1:07:06.320 --> 1:07:09.280 what what we were doing. So let me ask you this, 1:07:09.680 --> 1:07:12.720 when did you guys first realized that she was something? 1:07:13.000 --> 1:07:15.200 I think when we did that, I think you know, 1:07:15.360 --> 1:07:18.400 P always had belief in himself and what he was doing. 1:07:19.000 --> 1:07:22.880 I think what we realized when we had something specials 1:07:22.920 --> 1:07:24.960 when we did the Ghettos Trying to Kill Me. So 1:07:25.040 --> 1:07:27.320 if you look at the Ghettos Trying to Kill Me album, 1:07:27.960 --> 1:07:31.080 it was P M bad with this woman. Uh it 1:07:31.280 --> 1:07:33.360 was King George was in the back with a gun, 1:07:33.640 --> 1:07:36.320 kind of portraying the ghetto. And when people saw that 1:07:36.480 --> 1:07:39.120 concept of the ghettos trying to kill me and we 1:07:39.280 --> 1:07:42.720 did this record called to eleven, uh talk about Robin 1:07:42.800 --> 1:07:46.560 liquor stores, that's when we started to see we have something. 1:07:47.040 --> 1:07:49.200 And then what happened was there was this guy that 1:07:49.400 --> 1:07:52.280 was going around robbing liquor stores, and he was robbing 1:07:52.560 --> 1:07:55.000 h people at a t M S. And when he 1:07:55.080 --> 1:07:58.760 got arrested, he had told people that the master p 1:07:59.040 --> 1:08:01.960 record to allow then is what made him go out 1:08:02.040 --> 1:08:04.600 and rob these people, because every time he listened to 1:08:04.680 --> 1:08:07.120 the Red before he robbed people, he would go listen 1:08:07.200 --> 1:08:09.440 to the record or you have to record and take that, 1:08:09.880 --> 1:08:12.080 and he was listening to it before he robbed people. 1:08:12.360 --> 1:08:16.120 So then at that point is when folks started to 1:08:16.200 --> 1:08:18.280 really know who we were and we started to kind 1:08:18.280 --> 1:08:21.479 of build that name. So that was really you know, 1:08:21.600 --> 1:08:24.040 when we knew, like, wow, we have something. When we 1:08:24.160 --> 1:08:27.439 got when we were affecting people and their cool thought 1:08:27.520 --> 1:08:29.960 process and what they're doing, and we started to be 1:08:30.040 --> 1:08:33.479 in the newspaper and on television, and that's when we knew, okay, 1:08:33.560 --> 1:08:36.720 we could really make something big out of it. And 1:08:36.880 --> 1:08:39.880 peace also he started to kind of form his own identity. 1:08:40.040 --> 1:08:43.840 Absolutely at that point he started to realize, you know, 1:08:43.880 --> 1:08:46.560 because because before that he was kind of taking a 1:08:46.640 --> 1:08:49.120 little bit of sound from this artist and that artist 1:08:49.240 --> 1:08:51.840 and wasn't sure which direction to go. But by the 1:08:52.000 --> 1:08:56.000 time we did the by the time we went through 1:08:56.040 --> 1:08:58.800 that process and did that record to get us trying 1:08:58.800 --> 1:09:01.720 to kill me, and then we started to put things 1:09:01.800 --> 1:09:06.080 together for the West Coast Bad Boys. That's when ultimately 1:09:06.600 --> 1:09:09.120 we knew we had something and things were starting to move. 1:09:09.479 --> 1:09:11.360 And by the time we put that West Coast Bad 1:09:11.439 --> 1:09:14.080 Boys record out and it hit billboard charts and it 1:09:14.240 --> 1:09:16.960 was on for consecutive weeks. And then next year, what 1:09:17.000 --> 1:09:19.960 everyone's calling us and wanting to do something with this 1:09:20.120 --> 1:09:22.160 because we had we were not only were selling all 1:09:22.200 --> 1:09:25.120 the records, but we were on the billboard charts. That's 1:09:25.160 --> 1:09:28.479 when folks started to kind of just say, Okay, master 1:09:28.640 --> 1:09:31.280 P is doing something different and what we're doing at 1:09:31.320 --> 1:09:34.479 no limited special? What made you guys go in the direction? 1:09:34.560 --> 1:09:37.160 Because I noticed on West Coast Bad Boys and stuff, 1:09:37.160 --> 1:09:39.040 you guys were working with a lot of different producers, 1:09:39.479 --> 1:09:43.000 most of the big area producers. When was it decided? 1:09:43.479 --> 1:09:45.400 When do you think it was decided that they would 1:09:45.400 --> 1:09:47.280 go to route and bring them like a beats and 1:09:47.320 --> 1:09:50.479 by the pound, like like who decided that? Well, I 1:09:50.600 --> 1:09:53.400 think it was lower about having a home bed. So 1:09:53.600 --> 1:09:57.080 if you looked at master P, master P had was 1:09:57.160 --> 1:10:00.679 sell records up in the Northwest and Seattle, in Portland, 1:10:00.720 --> 1:10:03.680 in that area in the Midwest, so you you talk 1:10:03.760 --> 1:10:07.760 about Kansas City, Missouri, Iowa. We were selling records there, 1:10:08.040 --> 1:10:10.920 parts in the South and parts in the West Coast, 1:10:11.680 --> 1:10:14.519 and to make sure we had a home base, because 1:10:14.560 --> 1:10:17.880 if you think about most popular rappers, they have a 1:10:18.000 --> 1:10:20.680 home base, whether they're from parts of New York or 1:10:20.680 --> 1:10:23.599 they're from Newisiana, they're protected wherever they have a home base. 1:10:23.880 --> 1:10:26.760 And at that point, he was kind of an outsider 1:10:26.920 --> 1:10:29.640 because he wasn't you know, he didn't sound like a 1:10:29.760 --> 1:10:32.040 West Coast rapper because he had he had this real 1:10:32.320 --> 1:10:35.760 Southern accident and he really, you know, even though we 1:10:35.880 --> 1:10:39.280 spent time in in Richmond and in the Bay Area, 1:10:40.160 --> 1:10:43.120 he represented the Bay Area with the West Coast bad boys, 1:10:43.400 --> 1:10:46.960 but people didn't really you know, know he as being 1:10:47.040 --> 1:10:50.599 a California guy, because all the California folks were like, oh, 1:10:50.720 --> 1:10:54.479 you're not from out here, you country. So going back 1:10:54.560 --> 1:10:58.519 south was I think, well, ultimately what we decided to do, 1:10:58.800 --> 1:11:01.000 and even bringing off Beast the power that has to 1:11:01.120 --> 1:11:05.080 do with with with Mr Sturvan and his relationship with 1:11:05.320 --> 1:11:09.840 KLC and then also Moby Dick being peace cousin and 1:11:09.920 --> 1:11:12.679 then building a relationship with me and X. We knew 1:11:12.720 --> 1:11:15.479 we had to have that Southern sound. But the reason 1:11:15.600 --> 1:11:18.840 why we went to the South was to build that 1:11:19.040 --> 1:11:22.240 home base. And then, just to be frank, a dollar 1:11:22.360 --> 1:11:26.240 went a lot further in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Tennessee 1:11:26.360 --> 1:11:29.200 than it did in California. Like I could spend five 1:11:29.240 --> 1:11:32.280 thousand dollars in California and that's not gonna get you 1:11:32.439 --> 1:11:36.080 as much as if you spend five thousand dollars in Louisiana, Texas, 1:11:36.200 --> 1:11:41.120 Mrs Sipia, Alabama. So from a financial standpoint, we had 1:11:41.280 --> 1:11:44.280 more to work with from a budgetary standpoint in the South. 1:11:44.840 --> 1:11:47.200 He was from the South, so he wanted to go home. 1:11:47.640 --> 1:11:50.800 We spent a lot of time down there, his relationship 1:11:50.920 --> 1:11:54.760 with me a x uh Serve on KLC Moby Dick. 1:11:55.120 --> 1:11:58.240 It just made sense that we do something with the South, 1:11:58.600 --> 1:12:01.280 and the South had that really deep base, that sound 1:12:01.360 --> 1:12:04.200 that we were looking for at that time. Man, you 1:12:04.320 --> 1:12:07.240 know him coming from the Bay area, like you said, 1:12:07.320 --> 1:12:10.280 he sounded like a Louisiana kid. So I'm pretty sure 1:12:10.320 --> 1:12:11.960 it was some kind of resistance if there. Did you 1:12:12.000 --> 1:12:14.400 get a lot of hate in Bay Yeah, I would 1:12:14.439 --> 1:12:17.840 say I would say not from the fans, but some 1:12:17.960 --> 1:12:19.840 of the artists had a problem that P came on 1:12:19.960 --> 1:12:22.559 the scene. So think about this. We do the West 1:12:22.600 --> 1:12:25.720 Coast Bad Boys. We take all the popular rappers on 1:12:25.760 --> 1:12:28.400 the West Coast throughout the Bay Area and we put 1:12:28.479 --> 1:12:31.200 them on an album. We put Master P Presents on 1:12:31.320 --> 1:12:33.720 the top of that album. So everybody thought Master P 1:12:33.960 --> 1:12:36.160 was the leader of all these folks. So who do 1:12:36.200 --> 1:12:38.720 you have on there? You have folks like for Sacramento, 1:12:38.840 --> 1:12:41.200 like c Boat, you have Jay to the biggest figure. 1:12:41.439 --> 1:12:44.160 You have the delinquents. Uh. You know, when you start 1:12:44.280 --> 1:12:47.479 thinking about these artists that are on we had Rapping Forte. 1:12:48.000 --> 1:12:51.960 So all of these rappers that are popular in their hoods, 1:12:52.400 --> 1:12:55.519 and Master P is presented as the leader of this crew. 1:12:56.280 --> 1:12:59.560 So at that point we put all these records we 1:12:59.680 --> 1:13:01.479 are we get on on the inside of the West 1:13:01.560 --> 1:13:05.040 Coast Bad Boys. So people were like, man, he is 1:13:05.120 --> 1:13:07.360 representing the West Coast Bad Boys, and that kind of 1:13:07.439 --> 1:13:10.439 built that built a name for us. So I would 1:13:10.479 --> 1:13:12.519 say that there were artists out there was just like, man, 1:13:12.560 --> 1:13:15.200 who did he think he is? He's not from here. 1:13:15.479 --> 1:13:18.320 He came here and he's solidified himself with the fans 1:13:18.760 --> 1:13:21.000 by being, you know, the head of the West Coast 1:13:21.040 --> 1:13:24.720 Bad Boys are leading the West Coast Bad Boys. That's dope, man. 1:13:25.120 --> 1:13:27.880 So y'all moving units now, man, y'all starting to sell 1:13:27.920 --> 1:13:30.800 a lot of Rigords and everything. Yes, the attention from 1:13:30.800 --> 1:13:34.240 the Rigord labels coming out right absolutely. Who was the 1:13:34.320 --> 1:13:36.400 first one, who was the first major to hit you 1:13:36.479 --> 1:13:39.960 guys up? Well, Big Beat Atlantic was kind of rushing 1:13:40.040 --> 1:13:44.120 out us pretty hard. Uh M c A was contacting us, 1:13:44.320 --> 1:13:49.200 our c A was contacting us. Um, you know, Universal 1:13:49.400 --> 1:13:51.680 was in the mix at that particular time, but Big 1:13:51.800 --> 1:13:55.719 Beat Atlantic was probably that the label. And Craig Common 1:13:55.840 --> 1:13:57.719 was the one that was pushing so hard from Master 1:13:57.840 --> 1:14:02.120 Peak and what you know, ultimately P would have actually 1:14:02.240 --> 1:14:05.200 signed with them. And I probably the whole thing was 1:14:05.320 --> 1:14:09.240 he was ready to sacrifice the Master P name by 1:14:09.439 --> 1:14:13.519 getting money from Big Beat Atlantic, and the whole plan 1:14:13.680 --> 1:14:15.720 what he wanted to do was he was gonna take 1:14:15.800 --> 1:14:18.320 whatever money he was gonna get from Big Beat Atlantic 1:14:18.920 --> 1:14:20.920 and put that money in the silk the Shocker and 1:14:21.000 --> 1:14:24.800 put that money into No Limit Records. And I was 1:14:24.920 --> 1:14:27.320 the person who said, We're not gonna do that, doesn't 1:14:27.360 --> 1:14:31.240 make sense. We can hold out, because I believe it 1:14:31.400 --> 1:14:33.599 or not. C murder and King George wanted to beat 1:14:33.640 --> 1:14:35.400 me up because they was like I was messing with 1:14:35.479 --> 1:14:37.920 their money, because we were looking at a pretty decent 1:14:38.000 --> 1:14:41.640 sized amount of money. So what we did was we 1:14:41.760 --> 1:14:43.720 kind of rolled it out. We rolled the dice on 1:14:43.920 --> 1:14:46.280 doing the next record. So after the West Coast that 1:14:46.439 --> 1:14:48.960 Voids came out and we were hot, we did another 1:14:49.040 --> 1:14:52.240 record called ninety nine Ways to Die. So when we 1:14:52.680 --> 1:14:54.840 we we he probably if we wouldn't have did ninety 1:14:54.920 --> 1:14:58.240 nine Ways to Die, he may have signed there if 1:14:58.280 --> 1:14:59.960 I wouldn't have said, no, we're not with this whole 1:15:00.040 --> 1:15:03.080 doll let's hold on if they were going to give 1:15:03.160 --> 1:15:05.480 us actually a lot of dollars but a small percentage 1:15:05.960 --> 1:15:08.479 if we hold on. And this is out that we 1:15:08.600 --> 1:15:12.960 had met with uh Leroy Bobbit, who was entertainment attorney 1:15:13.960 --> 1:15:16.840 and uh he was he was a partner at Loebe 1:15:16.880 --> 1:15:19.519 and Lobe, and I met him to a guy named 1:15:19.560 --> 1:15:24.519 Gary Reeves who who is executive producer of a TV 1:15:24.680 --> 1:15:29.519 show called Give TV with Blair Underwood and uh and 1:15:30.000 --> 1:15:33.160 one of the Bush daughters. He's the one who introduced 1:15:33.280 --> 1:15:36.840 me to Mr bobb It and Mr Bobby was kind 1:15:36.840 --> 1:15:39.640 of explaining what kind of deals we could get. So 1:15:40.280 --> 1:15:43.160 between him and then I had some conversations with folks 1:15:43.240 --> 1:15:47.000 like Wendy Day from the Rap Collige, and they bolger 1:15:47.080 --> 1:15:50.519 kind of saying to me, like, you know, here are 1:15:50.560 --> 1:15:53.840 the different type of deals. Here's the production deal, here's 1:15:53.840 --> 1:15:57.599 an artist deal, here's and I kind of just said, well, look, 1:15:57.760 --> 1:16:00.640 and we're selling all these records now in dependently with 1:16:00.800 --> 1:16:05.240 no distribution or with with our distribution national distribution, but 1:16:05.439 --> 1:16:09.519 no no real mechanical arm like an Atlantic Records, or 1:16:09.560 --> 1:16:12.479 no real mechanical arm like a like a Capital or 1:16:12.479 --> 1:16:16.559 a Priority. Just imagine if we could hold on own 1:16:16.640 --> 1:16:20.120 our masters and then start driving business and all we 1:16:20.200 --> 1:16:21.880 need folks to do is just to make sure they're 1:16:21.920 --> 1:16:24.280 in the in the system and in the retail store. 1:16:24.960 --> 1:16:27.400 So when we turned down the big beat Atlantic deal, 1:16:28.000 --> 1:16:31.840 we connected with E. A. Ski. We started talking to Priority, 1:16:32.360 --> 1:16:35.280 and then at that particular time, we did a deal, 1:16:35.560 --> 1:16:38.599 a distribution deal with Priority to do all of our 1:16:38.760 --> 1:16:43.120 to do our albums. So the Ways to Die album 1:16:43.240 --> 1:16:45.240 was out, it was on the Billboard charts. We had 1:16:45.280 --> 1:16:49.120 success with the West Coast bad Boys. Priority was really 1:16:49.200 --> 1:16:51.479 focused on the next album, which was the t r 1:16:51.600 --> 1:16:54.760 U True Album, and the Dallas South Hustles, and that 1:16:54.920 --> 1:16:57.120 was really what they wanted. They wanted the true album 1:16:57.200 --> 1:16:59.920 in the Dallas South Hustlers. But the end, the real 1:17:00.160 --> 1:17:02.479 thing was like the ice ting on the cake was 1:17:02.640 --> 1:17:05.000 the ice Cream Man was the one that we knew 1:17:05.080 --> 1:17:08.479 was gonna be a big record. So that each title 1:17:09.240 --> 1:17:12.360 that you guys have started working on, the ice Cream 1:17:12.400 --> 1:17:15.559 Man that far in advance. Yeah, so we had already 1:17:15.600 --> 1:17:18.160 did the artwork. So one thing about when we were 1:17:18.920 --> 1:17:21.080 the one thing we always did, we always did the 1:17:21.200 --> 1:17:24.280 artwork on the inside. So any album you saw nine 1:17:24.360 --> 1:17:27.600 times out of tend those records weren't recording yet. So 1:17:27.760 --> 1:17:29.880 what we might do was do one or two songs. 1:17:30.000 --> 1:17:32.400 We record some stuff and figure out which song is 1:17:32.439 --> 1:17:35.160 gonna go on which album. So at that particular time, 1:17:35.479 --> 1:17:39.760 the ice Cream Man wasn't done. In fact, we at 1:17:39.800 --> 1:17:41.840 that point we hadn't even done it. We hadn't done 1:17:41.880 --> 1:17:45.160 one song. We have gromoted the ice Cream Man so 1:17:45.439 --> 1:17:48.720 much and we promoted the down South Uster so much 1:17:49.240 --> 1:17:53.680 that the distributors, the retail stores were waiting on the 1:17:53.760 --> 1:17:57.840 album like they wanted that. They wanted that uh ice 1:17:57.920 --> 1:18:01.320 Cream Man, and they wanted that South Husters those albums 1:18:01.400 --> 1:18:05.000 were We were promoting those albums one two years in advance, 1:18:05.560 --> 1:18:08.280 and people were kept waiting on the album. So that's 1:18:08.360 --> 1:18:10.400 really what it was. So by the time we did 1:18:10.560 --> 1:18:15.680 the distribution deal, which was fifteen split, eight percent for 1:18:15.840 --> 1:18:19.640 us the percent for them, they were already waiting on 1:18:19.760 --> 1:18:21.760 the true album. They were waiting on the down South 1:18:21.840 --> 1:18:24.519 Husters and they really wanted that, uh, the ice Cream 1:18:24.520 --> 1:18:27.320 Man album. So yeah, so let me answer this for 1:18:27.360 --> 1:18:30.120 the people that don't know out there. When he went 1:18:30.200 --> 1:18:33.040 to Priority Big the Atlantic, they wanted to give him 1:18:33.120 --> 1:18:35.120 like an artist deal, so they was giving front loading 1:18:35.200 --> 1:18:39.040 with a bunch of money up front. When when you 1:18:39.120 --> 1:18:41.160 guys took the Priority deal, assuming there was no in 1:18:41.280 --> 1:18:45.000 front money. No, So originally there was no advanced money. 1:18:45.160 --> 1:18:48.160 It was we're just gonna do a distribution deal. What 1:18:48.400 --> 1:18:52.200 came after the fact when they wanted to start these albums, 1:18:52.280 --> 1:18:54.880 that's when they came back and they wrote us to check. 1:18:55.360 --> 1:18:57.720 So they wrote us to check for some money, and 1:18:58.200 --> 1:19:01.120 then they really wanted to downs out Hustler album. That 1:19:01.280 --> 1:19:03.599 the question was how much do you need to get 1:19:03.640 --> 1:19:06.640 this down to a Hustler album done? So once they 1:19:06.720 --> 1:19:10.120 gave us money for that, and advance for that. That's 1:19:10.120 --> 1:19:15.320 when the percentages went from to eight twenty, so they 1:19:15.400 --> 1:19:19.120 took five percent. They took five percent that in order 1:19:19.160 --> 1:19:22.200 to advance his money, to finish the UH, to finish 1:19:22.320 --> 1:19:25.160 the ice Cream Man album, to record the ice Cream 1:19:25.160 --> 1:19:27.920 Man album to down South Husters. So we pretty much 1:19:28.000 --> 1:19:31.200 did t r U album, the down South Husters. Ice 1:19:31.240 --> 1:19:34.800 Cream Man mea excess project. Ki had a EP. She 1:19:34.960 --> 1:19:38.080 was doing the whole no Limit thing. Man's just sex 1:19:38.200 --> 1:19:41.519 one of those interest stories because it's a few good 1:19:41.600 --> 1:19:45.439 stories that like Rag Richard, you know, the country Boy goes, 1:19:45.560 --> 1:19:48.760 the Big Signal strikes of rich Man. Yes, y'all had 1:19:48.760 --> 1:19:52.560 an incredible thing going, but eventually to start being some distinction. 1:19:53.040 --> 1:19:55.160 Do you think things changed when the money start really 1:19:55.200 --> 1:19:58.479 coming in. I mean, I don't even know if I 1:19:58.560 --> 1:20:01.000 don't even know if it was just about the money. 1:20:01.200 --> 1:20:05.480 I just think what happens is when people are concerned 1:20:05.680 --> 1:20:09.240 about you know, you know. I think ultimately it wasn't 1:20:09.240 --> 1:20:11.760 even about the money, because for for me, I was 1:20:11.840 --> 1:20:14.120 all in on what we're doing, because I believed in 1:20:14.200 --> 1:20:16.320 what we're doing. I think it was just had to 1:20:16.400 --> 1:20:20.719 do with people start to wonder, um, you know, who's 1:20:20.880 --> 1:20:23.040 who's saying what and doing what, And there's all this 1:20:23.200 --> 1:20:25.960 talk about whose album is gonna come out next, and 1:20:26.520 --> 1:20:28.840 and whether they want to you know, do their own 1:20:28.920 --> 1:20:31.000 thing because their album is not coming out for for 1:20:31.280 --> 1:20:34.360 several months, and we see other people being moved up, 1:20:34.439 --> 1:20:37.240 and I mean, you know, there's just that whole you know, 1:20:37.720 --> 1:20:40.000 at the end of the day, people get frustrated by 1:20:40.080 --> 1:20:42.559 where they are and what place they are in their position. 1:20:43.400 --> 1:20:46.000 And I think that just was the that was the 1:20:46.160 --> 1:20:50.760 dynamic of the frustration of you know, where where my where, 1:20:50.880 --> 1:20:53.240 where's my place in the label and where that goes. 1:20:53.720 --> 1:20:58.080 I think certain artists were probably frustrated financially about where 1:20:58.200 --> 1:21:00.479 money was going and where they think the money ship win. 1:21:00.600 --> 1:21:03.439 But at the end of the day, you know, it 1:21:03.600 --> 1:21:06.840 was No Limit. Master p was the the CEO of 1:21:06.960 --> 1:21:10.240 No Limit. I was the executive vice president and manager 1:21:10.479 --> 1:21:13.759 and ran the label and managed him and and pretty 1:21:13.840 --> 1:21:16.600 much managed the artist. It was a family affair, and 1:21:16.760 --> 1:21:20.280 like anything, when you when you bring money into the falls, 1:21:20.760 --> 1:21:23.360 it does kind of create this this kind of this 1:21:23.560 --> 1:21:26.760 kind of dissension in the ranks. But it's also how 1:21:26.800 --> 1:21:29.760 are we communicating when people's projects are coming out? And 1:21:29.800 --> 1:21:32.280 what that looks like. And there's sometimes there could be 1:21:32.320 --> 1:21:35.040 some frustration around, well, wait a minute, my album is 1:21:35.040 --> 1:21:38.160 supposed to come out at this particular point. I got 1:21:38.280 --> 1:21:40.280 bills to pay, I got things to do. I'm ready 1:21:40.320 --> 1:21:43.439 to blow up. But then I might be moved down 1:21:43.600 --> 1:21:46.800 on the down on the packing water and because for 1:21:46.920 --> 1:21:50.720 whatever reason, maybe it's the sound, maybe maybe the the 1:21:50.880 --> 1:21:54.400 idea or the ideas or the projects, or people are asking, uh, 1:21:54.600 --> 1:21:57.800 distributors asking, or retailers are asking for specific records, and 1:21:57.880 --> 1:22:00.280 people get people get moved out and peck and more. 1:22:00.600 --> 1:22:02.760 It happens like that and tomb your label too, right, 1:22:03.080 --> 1:22:04.439 you know, my I'm was supposed to come out and 1:22:04.520 --> 1:22:06.479 then it gets on the shelf for several months and 1:22:06.880 --> 1:22:08.840 you don't have the right style yet, so we're gonna 1:22:08.880 --> 1:22:10.840 push you back. All of that thing is kind of 1:22:10.920 --> 1:22:16.560 how it works. Well, you know, you can get on 1:22:16.640 --> 1:22:20.040 our website at Tobin tel b I N Coston, c 1:22:20.200 --> 1:22:23.320 os t e n dot com. You can follow me 1:22:23.439 --> 1:22:26.200 on Instagram and Tobin cost and that's probably the best 1:22:26.240 --> 1:22:27.960 way to connect with me. But if you go to 1:22:28.080 --> 1:22:32.160 my website Tobin Costing dot com, uh, people email me. 1:22:32.560 --> 1:22:35.080 You can email me on there, and I usually get 1:22:35.160 --> 1:22:37.800 back to people pretty quick via email or phone number. 1:22:38.080 --> 1:22:40.240 I will just tell people leave your phone number, because 1:22:40.240 --> 1:22:43.000 I'm good with text and calling. I'm a little bit 1:22:43.080 --> 1:22:45.240 better old school with picking up the phone, with calling 1:22:45.280 --> 1:22:48.160 people and having the conversation. I mean, that's kind of 1:22:48.200 --> 1:22:50.960 how we connected. And I try to get you. I 1:22:51.000 --> 1:22:54.120 don't like doing the whole Instagram thing. I get people. 1:22:54.160 --> 1:22:57.160 They don't ask for the numbers anymore. What's your Instagram page? 1:22:57.720 --> 1:23:00.680 And it's like to take my don't remember and call 1:23:00.800 --> 1:23:05.639 you don't take those in there. I don't like, well, 1:23:05.800 --> 1:23:07.800 you know, I usually if people get at me, I 1:23:07.840 --> 1:23:09.880 don't have it where it notifies me, so I gotta 1:23:09.960 --> 1:23:12.479 clog on there. But I used to tell people, you 1:23:12.560 --> 1:23:14.439 get all my if you get on my website, you 1:23:14.520 --> 1:23:18.080 reach out to me, I will email me. Most people 1:23:18.120 --> 1:23:21.160 don't email me their phone number, so I just tell 1:23:21.240 --> 1:23:24.400 folks all the time, email me and email me your 1:23:24.479 --> 1:23:27.080 phone number. I will text you or call you, and 1:23:27.360 --> 1:23:29.760 so we get out of a conversation and that's, you know. 1:23:30.000 --> 1:23:32.080 I try to get back to everyone, and a lot 1:23:32.120 --> 1:23:34.000 of times people be like, WHOA, you got back to me? 1:23:34.439 --> 1:23:36.439 And I did that even when I was at no limit. 1:23:36.720 --> 1:23:39.599 It was really important for me when people people sent 1:23:39.760 --> 1:23:42.040 information to me pick up the phone and call for 1:23:42.240 --> 1:23:45.080 mail them and let them know and give them feedback. 1:23:45.439 --> 1:23:48.559 Especially when folks are giving me demo tapes. I'm always 1:23:48.600 --> 1:23:51.920 real big about Hey, somebody sends me their demo tape. 1:23:52.280 --> 1:23:54.120 I want to make sure that I do my part 1:23:54.439 --> 1:23:56.280 and at least get back to them and give them 1:23:56.520 --> 1:23:59.120 give them feedback good, bad or in different and not 1:23:59.320 --> 1:24:02.759 just asking. Because you just let me into a question, 1:24:03.000 --> 1:24:05.040 how those demo tapes that you got in how much 1:24:05.080 --> 1:24:10.000 good ship did you find? I probably would say one 1:24:10.080 --> 1:24:12.880 out of one out of twenty, so it was that 1:24:13.040 --> 1:24:16.240 five percent. Probably one out of twenty. I find something 1:24:16.320 --> 1:24:20.720 that I'm like, okay, there's something here. Um. Sometimes you 1:24:20.880 --> 1:24:23.280 find something that's just a dominant erupt. There are a 1:24:23.400 --> 1:24:26.200 lot of artists that we got demo tapes for when 1:24:26.200 --> 1:24:28.960 we did the Downstop Hustlers that we were like, whoa, 1:24:29.439 --> 1:24:32.000 these are underground cats and they sounded good. Let's try 1:24:32.040 --> 1:24:35.120 to do something with them. So I would say probably 1:24:35.160 --> 1:24:36.960 five percent of the time, there'll be a bunch of 1:24:37.000 --> 1:24:39.240 people would send your stuff to be like whoa. But 1:24:39.320 --> 1:24:41.200 I always got back to people let them know what 1:24:41.280 --> 1:24:43.960 I thought good, bad or different. Like I would always 1:24:44.000 --> 1:24:47.479 tell people, you know, just keep working, keep blinding, or 1:24:47.520 --> 1:24:49.599 I would tell people like, hey, this is not for us, 1:24:49.680 --> 1:24:51.840 but I would just encourage you to keep working. I 1:24:51.880 --> 1:24:54.080 always told people to keep working, even if I didn't 1:24:54.120 --> 1:24:57.560 like what they were doing. So did you So you 1:24:57.680 --> 1:24:59.280 just say you put a couple of those cats on 1:24:59.360 --> 1:25:04.720 the down so down South Busters. Absolutely didn't you have 1:25:04.920 --> 1:25:07.400 one of any artists that we know from no limit 1:25:07.479 --> 1:25:10.040 that kind of came from the whole demo tape thing. Well, 1:25:10.240 --> 1:25:13.160 more than likely p KO who was on the Down 1:25:13.240 --> 1:25:16.720 South Busters. This guy's Protectas was on their twenty to 1:25:16.840 --> 1:25:20.320 life was on there. Uh, we got their their tape 1:25:20.360 --> 1:25:23.200 for their demo tape. Uh. The other one was CCG 1:25:23.800 --> 1:25:27.080 Scala Citygs from Kansas City. They were on that Down 1:25:27.160 --> 1:25:29.519 South Hustlers and they put out a solo album. They 1:25:29.600 --> 1:25:33.280 hit bill Board. So nobody really big. But there were 1:25:33.360 --> 1:25:36.760 just artists on there that we got that were that 1:25:36.880 --> 1:25:39.920 were talented, and and we put them. We put them 1:25:39.960 --> 1:25:42.760 on and did some did some projects with whether it 1:25:42.880 --> 1:25:45.519 was the was whether it was a compilation or we 1:25:45.600 --> 1:25:48.519 put something together. We did shows with them, you know, 1:25:48.760 --> 1:25:51.000 and and that's really the key. You got a good style. 1:25:51.040 --> 1:25:53.200 I don't care if you you know, you're recording on 1:25:53.240 --> 1:25:57.000 the four track cassette or you're doing something digitally high end. 1:25:57.439 --> 1:26:00.800 If you got talented, it will show. Yes, Man, I 1:26:00.840 --> 1:26:03.880 appreciate you sitting down with us tonight. Bro. Absolutely, Man, 1:26:03.920 --> 1:26:06.479 I appreciate you, and uh, you know, I always love 1:26:06.560 --> 1:26:08.960 what you do. And just to be part of, uh 1:26:09.600 --> 1:26:12.200 one of your shows with all the legends that you 1:26:12.320 --> 1:26:14.680 have on man, it's a it's a complete honor for me. 1:26:15.320 --> 1:26:18.400 Oh Man, you a lection yourself. Man. I can't wait, Man, 1:26:18.439 --> 1:26:20.639 I can't wait. I can't wait to show the world 1:26:20.720 --> 1:26:23.120 we got cooking up. And for the record, it's not 1:26:23.320 --> 1:26:27.760 nothing on that derogatory about masterp. We're not that. We're 1:26:27.800 --> 1:26:30.639 talking about token story because every story has two sides. 1:26:31.439 --> 1:26:34.599 We out of here. We appreciate you, token, I appreciate you, guys. 1:26:34.680 --> 1:26:37.240 Be safe, Thank you well. That concludes another episode of 1:26:37.280 --> 1:26:39.880 Against the Chronicles podcast. Be sure to download the I 1:26:40.000 --> 1:26:42.960 Heart app and subscribe to the Gangster Chronicles podcast for 1:26:43.080 --> 1:26:45.040 Apple users. 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