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Speaker 1: Try to keep our homeboy, our brother m C eight
Speaker 1: and Prayer. He's doing fine, couldn't be with us the
Speaker 1: night and he's taking care of a medical issue. Nothing
Speaker 1: Bass so don't start the rumors out there. We got
Speaker 1: big jag in the house. Man. Tonight, we got a
Speaker 1: special guest, the Professor, Melly Mayl, the hood professor. Man.
Speaker 1: You know the vibe, Man, I'm just chilling. Man. How
Speaker 1: you doing, James, I'm good, my brother, I'm good. Still
Speaker 1: just told me, man, you probably out riding that motorcycle. Man,
Speaker 1: you know I ain't got the glass, boy, I was,
Speaker 1: I was getting that rest. Yeah, I gotta do that. Man.
Speaker 1: When here, you know, okay, got you. You got a
Speaker 1: lot of energy. I'll be running on any kids. The
Speaker 1: kids don't know. They don't never once them two year
Speaker 1: olds on up, man, they run all day day. One
Speaker 1: of the things we was talking about earlier, what exactly
Speaker 1: is the man code? Fellas? Man? Cold is staying on cold? Man,
Speaker 1: knowing what your what your code of conduct is Man,
Speaker 1: you know what that's you and you get that in
Speaker 1: your culture, conditioning it. But it comes from your father,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm standing. But a lot of these
Speaker 1: guys are being really reared and raised up by women.
Speaker 1: So you know what I mean. It kind of speaks
Speaker 1: for herself. When that when a female element is part
Speaker 1: of a man's thinking, it becomes emotional, very emotional, so
Speaker 1: they don't know how to process like a man or
Speaker 1: like a man with normally, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Because times have changing, a lot of women are just
Speaker 1: raising you know, man, boys that my mom's My mom
Speaker 1: reased five, three sons when in the household. You know,
Speaker 1: we pretty much did what we wanted to do, and
Speaker 1: by far, you know, none of her sons were timid,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And and you know, I
Speaker 1: give a credit for raising five. But you know, I
Speaker 1: think without the dad, you know, we ain't afraid of nothing.
Speaker 1: So we we we tend to bul off into our
Speaker 1: own ship and start doing what we see in the streets.
Speaker 1: And that's what that's true. That's true though, James. But
Speaker 1: doing your time, you had uncle's granddaddy. You had somebody
Speaker 1: coming through, man, you know what I mean, there was
Speaker 1: somebody that was right there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So that we're talking, we're talking about two different eras,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Where this era right here? Man?
Speaker 1: This this generation z man? Come on, man, they man,
Speaker 1: they they don't. We used to just smoke weed and
Speaker 1: drink a little drink. Now they're doing Molly's uh sir,
Speaker 1: you know drink, you know what I mean, A little PCP,
Speaker 1: a little little power that can hide different things. The
Speaker 1: doors is open for being taught. I'm three cold supposed
Speaker 1: to learning and thinking for yourself, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And you know we knew what time to head back
Speaker 1: to the house, you know what I'm saying. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: we definitely had that. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So these cats today are totally different. You know, we
Speaker 1: have the lack of loyalty because don't nobody understand what
Speaker 1: that means. They didn't grow up with that, so they
Speaker 1: don't they're not conditioned for that. Uh, you know, just
Speaker 1: just you don't have that one hunter like you used
Speaker 1: to have when we was growing up back in the days.
Speaker 1: You know, you got kids knocking on those shooting at
Speaker 1: the parents. Parents ain't got ship to do with gang
Speaker 1: banging and these things that you know, being up close
Speaker 1: and personal. That was that was one of the rules.
Speaker 1: You don't you know that then we had respect for
Speaker 1: the churches, even though we were fucking monsters and and
Speaker 1: and doing the street. We didn't go and tag on
Speaker 1: a church, you know what I'm saying. Just certain things
Speaker 1: we didn't do opposed to everything they're doing today, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And we can tell can wait
Speaker 1: because the daddy went there. I mean, we can honestly
Speaker 1: say that. But the kids these days, some of them
Speaker 1: got both of their parents, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's true, but still out there doing the same monkey
Speaker 1: as ship that everybody else is doing right, right, right right,
Speaker 1: they're not thinking. There's a book, man, It's called The Man. Hello, yeah, oh,
Speaker 1: keep on, okay, there's a book called The Man Not
Speaker 1: Right and it's my guy named Tommy Jake Curry. Man.
Speaker 1: It is a great reading. It kind of just it
Speaker 1: taps into a lot of different areas of manhood. With manhood,
Speaker 1: isn't with manhood? It's not I lovet my mic for
Speaker 1: a second. Let me say, come back home, you're good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna write a book called think for Yourself than
Speaker 1: a lot of mother fuckers don't think for yourself? There
Speaker 1: there there. You know, it's one thing of being taught
Speaker 1: right and wrong, and then there's another thing to be taught, um,
Speaker 1: just being stupid a foolish way. And a lot of kids,
Speaker 1: a lot of these cats out here have been taught
Speaker 1: a foolish way like our nephews. My nephews I want
Speaker 1: to be game bangers, but they see what had done
Speaker 1: to uncles and cousins and the uncle's homeboys. But they
Speaker 1: still want to be a part of everybody. Everybody want
Speaker 1: to play and have a position and nothing. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And I just I just called it.
Speaker 1: Just think for yourself if you can see and and
Speaker 1: absorbed the ship that's been going on watching uncles because
Speaker 1: unties didn't let the kids. So we thought our nieces,
Speaker 1: the nephews would be involved in this type of ship.
Speaker 1: Just like in compting down today you got the homies
Speaker 1: kids killing each other. You see what I'm saying. We
Speaker 1: all grew up together, but our kids are at board
Speaker 1: and the only thing to separate them is a boulevard
Speaker 1: right uh street. That's it, because they said virtually in
Speaker 1: the same proxibility of one another. They went to the
Speaker 1: same schools, They they see each other, they go to
Speaker 1: the look store, they share the look of story in
Speaker 1: the gas station. So how did we get there? Uh James?
Speaker 1: Every year ship breaks down in the neighborhood, all the
Speaker 1: all the cats that we call big homies or whatever
Speaker 1: are gone. The ones that are here may be strong
Speaker 1: on drugs. The younger kids, younger generation don't respect, don't
Speaker 1: know how to respect, the olders, the elders, the big homies.
Speaker 1: Howevery you choose the word um, they don't respect mama.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because now they believe that
Speaker 1: the homies got their backup post to their mama having
Speaker 1: their back. You know, family, the hood turns into the family.
Speaker 1: The street cold of today is the homies. And what
Speaker 1: the homies do? You know, nobody out there. And these
Speaker 1: kids have never been taught how to think for itself,
Speaker 1: so it don't matter that you know, they never broke
Speaker 1: bread with each other, the big homies. We all grew
Speaker 1: up breaking bread with each other. But these kids that
Speaker 1: never broke bread with each other, you feel me. So
Speaker 1: it's just a lack of And then that you got
Speaker 1: in the hood of you know, fifty and over, forty
Speaker 1: five and over, they they become the big homie. Now
Speaker 1: that's why they still trapped where they at because they
Speaker 1: want to be the big homies. But they don't get it.
Speaker 1: So how can the blind lead the blind? Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: y'all both said something really like, um, stuff that's just real.
Speaker 1: On point, Millie Mayo said something. He mentioned something earlier
Speaker 1: that a lot of these guys don't have a father
Speaker 1: figure in the house. And see, I think with their
Speaker 1: father figure, you know, like even though my pops weren't
Speaker 1: physically in the house with me, I had a stepdaddy,
Speaker 1: right there was real, no nonsense. And I had uncles
Speaker 1: that was coming home from prison or whatever like that
Speaker 1: telling me there ain't no place that you want to go.
Speaker 1: So they pretty much gave me what the definition of
Speaker 1: a man was. You know, the news didn't sit in
Speaker 1: the ass all day and you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and and just chill. They went out of work and
Speaker 1: had jobs and ship, had hustles, had ship. You know.
Speaker 1: So I was talking from early age. And the man
Speaker 1: is supposed to provide for his household. A man is
Speaker 1: supposed to do this. I got certain tendencies to day,
Speaker 1: Like if I see my wife taking out trash, I
Speaker 1: get my son's ass. I'll be like, you know, what
Speaker 1: is your mama doing taking trash outside? That's show job, right,
Speaker 1: that show job at the house of somebody breaking house.
Speaker 1: What we're gonna do stay upstairs and hide the woman
Speaker 1: go downstairs and hold it down. You know, no, I
Speaker 1: don't work like that. That would break the cycle what
Speaker 1: you're doing with your kids at home today you're there.
Speaker 1: That breaks the cycle of how you grew up. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, The ship that I'm doing raising grandkids.
Speaker 1: You know I ain't supposed to be raising my grandkids.
Speaker 1: My kids supposed to be raising their own kids. You're
Speaker 1: supposed to come with granddad and my mom on the weekend. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I got a question
Speaker 1: for both of you, guys. What's that? What is the
Speaker 1: hardest good in the world, the hardest good doing right,
Speaker 1: the hardest hood in the world. I'm no good, the
Speaker 1: hardest in the world. Skill jeans eight, y'all neggas better
Speaker 1: give me my fire Donald, I put that on a shet.
Speaker 1: I need to go get me some wanna merrow my
Speaker 1: motherfucking feet fucking with me. Gangster Chronicles of my ass
Speaker 1: pay granted her money. This Gangster Granny, y'all know me?
Speaker 1: Where you at? Where you at? This is o G
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Speaker 1: Getting ready for some of that G ship and blaze
Speaker 1: up some wanna merrow the exactly. That's the hardest hood
Speaker 1: in the world. Man, it's the hardest because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you this too right here. I think sometimes I've
Speaker 1: been too We've been too good at parents because I
Speaker 1: look at my kids. Sometimes it's just like little stuff
Speaker 1: like you know, my wife would say she's going the
Speaker 1: grocery store to buy something to cook for dinner. Right
Speaker 1: the kids just be on some ship like, oh, we
Speaker 1: want you potally, we won't you know Chick fil A.
Speaker 1: When I was a kid, that's she was luxury. We
Speaker 1: want to McDonald's. It was like a luxury you man,
Speaker 1: you get to go to McDonald's. And to day, man,
Speaker 1: these kids just looking ship like that, like it's supposed
Speaker 1: to happen, you know what I mean. No, that's called
Speaker 1: pacifying dogs. We pacified kids and give them what they want,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like me, I try to
Speaker 1: give my kids and my grandkids when I didn't get
Speaker 1: from my father, when I didn't get from my mother.
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, you wind up
Speaker 1: hurting them because you pacified. Now they become adults and
Speaker 1: they still want and think you're supposed to give m so'.
Speaker 1: Also what's also interesting is how these kids are hard
Speaker 1: wired to dismiss the facts that we are laying out
Speaker 1: because of their own local feaking. The facts that we
Speaker 1: are laying out right here, the fact that we sit
Speaker 1: on this live and we're given straight up datas fact statistics.
Speaker 1: They're hard wire in their minds did this simply dismiss it? Right?
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, sometimes I tell my sons some
Speaker 1: ship that I haven't been through already and then look
Speaker 1: at me. Well it was different back then, pops. I
Speaker 1: was like, what's different? You know? You know, you know
Speaker 1: what that's all? Yeah, you know? And what I've noticed
Speaker 1: with these and you know it ain't all bad. You've
Speaker 1: got some young kids out of the handling their business, right.
Speaker 1: I noticed, for the most part, man, we live in
Speaker 1: the area where dudes can't take no kind of in
Speaker 1: this hot, slightest little in the resistance. They're ready to
Speaker 1: give up on some ship, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And I tell my kids every day life is hard
Speaker 1: as a motherfucker. I said, you think I like doing
Speaker 1: half the ship? I do, but it's what it is,
Speaker 1: you know, It's what you have to do is with
Speaker 1: with your purpose he is. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You know you got card notes, you got mortgages, you
Speaker 1: got ship to pay for, so you gotta get off
Speaker 1: your ass. The world is moving, man, because every moment,
Speaker 1: every day, new second changes occurring. Whether you want to
Speaker 1: be a part of it or not, it is happening.
Speaker 1: So you gotta get with the program. And you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, You look like the dude that's standing
Speaker 1: down on the corner in front of acing store with
Speaker 1: the body hounds, still got a Jerry Curl telling about
Speaker 1: he he from the hood. Are you got the dude
Speaker 1: over sending town of blocks stand in front of Brownies
Speaker 1: on the back side with the body hounds talking about
Speaker 1: Yeah man, I'm down for the hood. You got them
Speaker 1: cats right there, and then you got these junctions looking
Speaker 1: at that. But they don't realize that's the horrid movie
Speaker 1: right there in front of their face that's gonna be
Speaker 1: to them in ten years. But they don't. They don't
Speaker 1: seem to take that into account. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because we all these eyes right here. Your eyes is
Speaker 1: the lends to the movie that you're filming right You're
Speaker 1: right here right now, you know, So you want to
Speaker 1: be the best version of yourself at all times, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But people don't. People just take
Speaker 1: things for for granted in our communities that theseus do
Speaker 1: somehow it's just gonna work itself out. They don't have
Speaker 1: to put no time and energy into working it out.
Speaker 1: They just want you like they want Jenny's and maybe
Speaker 1: come fix it or take their head and show them
Speaker 1: with them. Still they want you to do me, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. They think that somehow we're gonna
Speaker 1: just um going in the backyard to Money three and
Speaker 1: just feeling for him, you know. Yeah, well you know what,
Speaker 1: and and that seems so risk a lot of grown as,
Speaker 1: sorry niggas that think that way. I'm gonna tell y'all, James, No,
Speaker 1: you would be surprised at the amount of phone calls
Speaker 1: I get for people. And I don't mind people calling
Speaker 1: me for help or asking for help if you're willing
Speaker 1: to do forself. But you'll get somebody to call you
Speaker 1: and say, hey, man, I want to put them together
Speaker 1: a podcast, right, I want to do something. You help
Speaker 1: them get it up and get them get it set up.
Speaker 1: Next thing, you know, they're calling you every day because
Speaker 1: they pretty much want you to come and do the
Speaker 1: ship with them, and you don't already put all kinds
Speaker 1: of man hours into them. Don't get it all kinds
Speaker 1: of ship. Don't do it this You now you're getting
Speaker 1: the where you're not just investing your time, but now
Speaker 1: you've investing a little bit of money because it's like
Speaker 1: you know what this and you know this money still
Speaker 1: because if you're spending time over there for free, you're
Speaker 1: losing money where you could be getting money on y'all
Speaker 1: own ship exactly. And that's what I tell people. I
Speaker 1: would say, ship me and James got her own damn platform.
Speaker 1: We could be able there doing that ship. At least
Speaker 1: we know we're getting the dollar from that ship, you know.
Speaker 1: But you would get people in the moment you tell
Speaker 1: these motherfucker's no. It's like watching the reaction to a
Speaker 1: little four year old kid when you tell they can't
Speaker 1: have no more candy cookies or some ship because they
Speaker 1: get mad. Funk are you funny acting? Because see the
Speaker 1: one thing about the nigga and I ain't telling about
Speaker 1: black people. Don't talk about nigas period. You can tell
Speaker 1: him niggas yes, a million motherfucking times. The first time
Speaker 1: you tell them motherfucker's. No, they forget about all the yes,
Speaker 1: and now you all kind of bullshit. Motherfucker's you know,
Speaker 1: you let the motherfucker. You let the motherfucker hold a
Speaker 1: few dollars, right. And this is just a thing about
Speaker 1: being a principle. I was taught coming up. You don't
Speaker 1: borrow from somebody. I ain't know borrowing type of nigga,
Speaker 1: no way. But if I get something from another man,
Speaker 1: you're supposed to get that ship back to him, whether family,
Speaker 1: you know, you know what exactly, whether it's family, whether
Speaker 1: it's what ever. And I tell my kids all the time,
Speaker 1: you know, don't give her that thinking because I gotta
Speaker 1: tell my signs if they come to me, Pop, you've
Speaker 1: got a few dollars, like a borrow, I'll say you
Speaker 1: borrow a hat. It's a difference, you gotta be clear,
Speaker 1: very different, because if you tell me that you're borrowed,
Speaker 1: if that means I'll expect mind back back. It's like
Speaker 1: it's difference between somebody in the streets or somebody at
Speaker 1: home in a sense. Uh. But but it kind of
Speaker 1: falls backs on you. If you know a mothercker ain't
Speaker 1: got a job and he hang on the block, oh
Speaker 1: goddamn day. He ain't doing nothing if he if a mothermucky,
Speaker 1: ain't get enough being productive. And motherfucker came by his
Speaker 1: own drink, his own weed. Everybody got habits, came by
Speaker 1: a cigarette and it's the same motherfucker every day. Let
Speaker 1: me get a smoke, Let me get a smoke. You're
Speaker 1: ready to give them three foot the hollars, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it's homie you give hims. Don't plan on seeing that
Speaker 1: shipped back. Yeah, that's real ship. You already knew, not
Speaker 1: to his mother. You know what my thing is, James,
Speaker 1: with certain motherfucker's and I know their tendencies. I do
Speaker 1: what I call buy them out of my life. If
Speaker 1: I know what motherfucker, that's exactly what happened. He asked
Speaker 1: me for something. Yeah, sure you can borrow that two
Speaker 1: D I'll give it to us as because I know
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna never get from his punk ask again.
Speaker 1: He break his neck when he seen you from trying
Speaker 1: to hide from you because he don't want you, because James,
Speaker 1: because how many times and this fall in the main
Speaker 1: code to me too, because I tell people all the time,
Speaker 1: I ain't never been a gang banger, but I tell
Speaker 1: you why all my friends are gangious, because then most
Speaker 1: of them is the most loyal, trustworthy motherfucker's you can
Speaker 1: meet because they live by a certain code. If they
Speaker 1: get something from it, they can give it back. And
Speaker 1: nine times out of team, they ain't gonna never ask
Speaker 1: you for ship because they got their young You see
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And it's like it's a lot of
Speaker 1: good brothers out there. You know what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 1: a lot of real sellers, streetcats. And when it comes
Speaker 1: down to man, really, I'm gonna tell you where all
Speaker 1: this ship comes from. Y'all. Remember when the eighties they
Speaker 1: start pushing that line about oh, if your parents is
Speaker 1: whooping your ass at home, you can call this number
Speaker 1: and snick. And remember people are telling them their parents
Speaker 1: and ship like that. But where they missed the market
Speaker 1: with that ship. You had people that was really at
Speaker 1: home getting the views and ship that couldn't get no
Speaker 1: fucking help. But you've got this one motherfucker to the
Speaker 1: call a police every night when he's getting his ass
Speaker 1: fucking up, and they come over the jumping on their
Speaker 1: parents and ship like that. If the ship really got controved,
Speaker 1: man to the fact that where these kids thinking, motherfucker's
Speaker 1: supposed to be their friends when your opinion, you're not
Speaker 1: put on this earth to be a fucking friend. How
Speaker 1: do you Why do they think like that? Because you
Speaker 1: got some things they get hid with their kids that
Speaker 1: come on, let's have a drink. Uh uh, they're doing
Speaker 1: it with the kids over here. Those are the things
Speaker 1: that you don't do with your kids. Man. Exactly, no
Speaker 1: motherfucking marijuana with job because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: he's getting comfortable with hanging with you, not you being
Speaker 1: my parents, my father. So that's a that's what you're
Speaker 1: just saying. It is a part of staying on cold.
Speaker 1: We know as parents, that's something that you shouldn't do
Speaker 1: with your kids. You gotta stay on cold. You gotta
Speaker 1: stay in parent mode. You don't go from being parent
Speaker 1: to being their bread or being somebody that's passing buns
Speaker 1: between them. You know, you just don't do that. Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't know. My thing is this because you know
Speaker 1: right now marijuana, we gonna go to the weed a
Speaker 1: little bit. Marijuana is legal now. I smoke every once
Speaker 1: in a while. I smoke me some weeds, but I'll
Speaker 1: be damning from them, sili thin get have one of
Speaker 1: my damn kids. You should no no, but that's just no, no,
Speaker 1: you don't cross the line. And just it's like it
Speaker 1: is this when you're making love with your wife being
Speaker 1: invite him in the room something, watch and see how
Speaker 1: hit that as you might as well if you start
Speaker 1: doing it like that right well, and just at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, man, you when you start doing
Speaker 1: it like that, entertaining yourself with your kids in a
Speaker 1: fashion of that that nature, what happens when your son
Speaker 1: get mad at you. Now you see these niggas just
Speaker 1: nothing up on their daddies, and that's because they've crossed
Speaker 1: that line of somewhere. You got this in the neighborhood today.
Speaker 1: But it's all to me. I think everything that we're
Speaker 1: doing in life is designed. Everything that we do in
Speaker 1: life has a reason to it, and it has a purpose.
Speaker 1: When when when the government, when these people took whooping
Speaker 1: our kids out of the household, and now the kid
Speaker 1: feel more more just just angry because now I can
Speaker 1: call the police and your ask to go to jail.
Speaker 1: Uh whooping your kids? And and you put your kids
Speaker 1: into and our hall system, you gotta pay for it.
Speaker 1: What'd that tell you? Man? If you if I can't
Speaker 1: chastise my son, what happens my son get more and
Speaker 1: more and more batter and batter every day he goes
Speaker 1: out there hanging out. Now he becomes a statistic Now
Speaker 1: he didn't got his as well by the people killed
Speaker 1: by the police. After that law was implemented surely round
Speaker 1: by the the late nineties, early two thousand and when
Speaker 1: you start seeing these kids walking up in the school
Speaker 1: and gunning down the whole classroom. Mm hmm. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Because that was the parents had that
Speaker 1: had that was no longer no structure within your home.
Speaker 1: You couldn't discipline your child when you know Johnny was
Speaker 1: doing all this. With Johnny was back there killing the cat,
Speaker 1: killing the dog, and doing all this crazy strange stuff,
Speaker 1: you weren't able to stop him and discipline him on that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So you just kind of
Speaker 1: shoved it under the carpet, buried the animal, and just
Speaker 1: pretend like that never happened. So over over a period
Speaker 1: of time, he evolved and the mentality became thirsty for
Speaker 1: something bigger or something a bigger venue. Shopping for a
Speaker 1: bigger venue, and here we go. We now we got
Speaker 1: these kids walking up at school, movie theaters, nightclubs, or whatever,
Speaker 1: what have you, and they just got everybody down. Don't
Speaker 1: even know him, just or walk up into the church
Speaker 1: delling roof, you know what I mean? Then the police
Speaker 1: shows up and apprehending, don't buy a shot, taking the
Speaker 1: burger king and buy the walker and called him off
Speaker 1: the jail like it was just a normal day. Ball
Speaker 1: That's not normal. And man, a man, what do you
Speaker 1: call the kid that can go and commit him murder
Speaker 1: but then fall out and break down, and in the
Speaker 1: court room after the judge then gave him a life sentence, crying,
Speaker 1: what do you call him? Is he misunderstood? No, he's
Speaker 1: not missunderstood, because you just kill somebody, right, he don't
Speaker 1: understand consequences. We didn't understand that for We didn't give
Speaker 1: a funk about that part. Should I say we went
Speaker 1: to jail back then we went to jail. We didn't
Speaker 1: give seventy two hours. You're getting out of jail, don't
Speaker 1: nobody to show up, ain't nobody coming to court? Motherfucker's
Speaker 1: look for that type of ship. And and we we
Speaker 1: we we counted on that. Now these linings just getting
Speaker 1: thirty five forty five to light, and then the majority
Speaker 1: of these cats you see today just sitting in that
Speaker 1: courting him crying, they crying. Do you feel sorry for him? No?
Speaker 1: I don't. We were lucky. But these little kids today, man,
Speaker 1: they don't. They don't. They never have to deal with consequences,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So do the big homies.
Speaker 1: How do how do we put how do we change
Speaker 1: the ship? Should? I say? It's hard to do because
Speaker 1: once the motherfucker mind is is conditioned to play a
Speaker 1: certain party, you don't want to play another part. He
Speaker 1: don't want the other role. He don't want the role
Speaker 1: of a good guy because now he believed that all
Speaker 1: the homies is looking down on him because he's thinking
Speaker 1: the right way. So the right way will never show.
Speaker 1: We'll never put on that game face. I wouldn't wear
Speaker 1: that game face because I didn't want to help me
Speaker 1: to think that I was slacking up, I was getting
Speaker 1: soft or whatever. You because if a motherfucker think you're
Speaker 1: getting soft out there, the cold thing about it is
Speaker 1: they're gonna try you. Please believe it. What happened, I said,
Speaker 1: please believe it? Yeah, So you know, I think guys
Speaker 1: are just against all of us, and we we don't
Speaker 1: pay attention and we we don't want to see that
Speaker 1: or here that part of the story, you know. We
Speaker 1: we we want to believe all the bullshit that were
Speaker 1: here and see opposed to thinking and and seeing what's
Speaker 1: right and wrong. Yeah, they for ourselves. Well, if you
Speaker 1: notice today, man, a big part of what's going on
Speaker 1: today too is people don't Men don't communicate with each
Speaker 1: other no more. This is the typical scenario nowadays. I
Speaker 1: got a problem with James. I have james phone number.
Speaker 1: Instead of calling him, I go on Instagram and make
Speaker 1: a post about it, but don't never say his name.
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm talking about him? Well you
Speaker 1: know this and that instead of me picking up the
Speaker 1: phone and calling him, I'll do that. And and you know,
Speaker 1: no offense to our women listeners out there or my feathers.
Speaker 1: But to me, that's really feminine. That's not the way
Speaker 1: of men conduct themselves. If you got a problem with somebody,
Speaker 1: you call that person and you work it out with them,
Speaker 1: even on the back of the box. Communication is the
Speaker 1: main component of getting to understand it. Without communication, you
Speaker 1: can't have an understand it. So that's just something that
Speaker 1: just has to happen, you know, Yeah, it has happened
Speaker 1: under the said for sure, because I know y'all see
Speaker 1: it the mine. It's like, and I'm not gonna going
Speaker 1: to the whole Charlotte Magne thing. Right. Um, there was
Speaker 1: reporting on a brother what's the guy's name, Kama Karma Brown,
Speaker 1: Charlotte Maagne. You know, he went a little bit extra
Speaker 1: with it and saying some stuff about the thing to
Speaker 1: do when hammers, when bunkers. Charlotta Magne wanted this show
Speaker 1: and apologize today. I think that's a manion ship right there.
Speaker 1: He said, you know what, I funked up. I shouldn't
Speaker 1: said that and miss and that he apologized about it.
Speaker 1: A lot of niggas that they're gonna do that, a
Speaker 1: lot of niggas. You know, they're wrong as motherfucking three
Speaker 1: dollar bill. But it's still could carry on with the
Speaker 1: bullshit instead of just the independ may understand you know what,
Speaker 1: my bad, my nigga, I mean no disrespect. At least
Speaker 1: he had the common decency to recognize his and mistake
Speaker 1: and understand why he needed to apologize. You understand, because
Speaker 1: here's the theme. Man, if you think about the NBA right, well,
Speaker 1: look at the world. There's seven over saddling bill and
Speaker 1: people on this planet right maybe five hundred professional basketball
Speaker 1: players with those were centags. The livelihood that anybody making
Speaker 1: to the NBA, it's slim and ned. So if Steven A.
Speaker 1: Smith and Steven Jackson and Mac Barnes and give it arenuses,
Speaker 1: it's jumping on this fool because they don't feel like
Speaker 1: he didn't play to their understanding of or what they
Speaker 1: think he should have played too. That's their problem, you
Speaker 1: understand for them to still be talking about that twenty
Speaker 1: years lady, it's restarted. Man, they didn't have nothing else
Speaker 1: better to talk about. Yeah, that's real ship. You know
Speaker 1: one thing that we gotta stop doing, though, And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you one thing, and I try to practice
Speaker 1: practice this myself, is we gotta stop trying to knock
Speaker 1: the next brother down is doing some ship over Damn
Speaker 1: always us whenever you see somebody talking about it and
Speaker 1: ain't a white boy on TV, the ain't this person,
Speaker 1: ain't a mix of doing it. It's one of us.
Speaker 1: They think they gotta going on. I'm about the tim
Speaker 1: I'm their favorite words, I'm exposed some ship. What the
Speaker 1: fund are you going exposed? No, that's that's we We
Speaker 1: we hate what we see where we can't get for ourselves,
Speaker 1: so we hate the next man. They got it. We
Speaker 1: hate the fact that he got it and I don't.
Speaker 1: And you see a lot of motherfucker's like that. Ma'll
Speaker 1: but tell you way back in the days, and nigga
Speaker 1: hated another motherfucker because this low rider looked better than his.
Speaker 1: I didn't have datings. So now nigga say, the only
Speaker 1: way I can get those datings is to go out
Speaker 1: there and kill the motherfucker for him. No datons was
Speaker 1: easy to get. Everybody had a hustler in the grind,
Speaker 1: but motherfucker's didn't want to. Boyd. We hate on each
Speaker 1: other just because of what we see, but we don't
Speaker 1: have right here. We hate each other because bitches is
Speaker 1: looking at that nigga saying that motherfucker is with it
Speaker 1: that nigga pretty now, And I hate this nigga because
Speaker 1: the bitch is blank. You hate each other just on
Speaker 1: the stress of of of nickerism. What you mentioned that
Speaker 1: people hated Bartender for that man. Bartender was a nice
Speaker 1: looking young man, and all the women, no matter where
Speaker 1: he was from, love that dude. Dude from even his
Speaker 1: own sextional dudes from obviously other sextions hated even just
Speaker 1: for that reason alone. You know exactly did moret they
Speaker 1: women around their motherfucking know nothing. But what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is is we hate what we're not right, we hate
Speaker 1: what we can't beat, but we're seeing somebody else and
Speaker 1: we hate the fact that another motherfucker made it. We
Speaker 1: hate the fact that a black man accomplished something, or
Speaker 1: niggas came from the hood and they're doing this now.
Speaker 1: Oh he thinking this ship. He made it out the hood.
Speaker 1: But look why says for making it? It ain't watching
Speaker 1: somebody walked out to the neighborhood. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Man watching this, James, There's a guy. His name is
Speaker 1: U Napoleon Hill. Napoleon Hill said one of the most
Speaker 1: powerful emotions that a man has a desire to have sex.
Speaker 1: But if he harness that energy and transmute it into
Speaker 1: a monetary equipment equivalent, he'd be that much further head
Speaker 1: in life. Other words, when he was explaining is that
Speaker 1: if you put your time and energy into building your
Speaker 1: foundation in your life. You don't have no time for
Speaker 1: all that stuff. And then at that point you don't
Speaker 1: have to look for no woman, and the woman gonna
Speaker 1: be looking for you. You understanding, because now you don't
Speaker 1: build this life up and you gotta you gotta stable now,
Speaker 1: you know. But what will happen to are you or
Speaker 1: are some of the people who come up the time
Speaker 1: they put the they put the buggy in front of
Speaker 1: the heart, they start chasing women are doing all this stuff.
Speaker 1: They don't realize that they're losing precious time because they
Speaker 1: could spend that time building their life. And once you
Speaker 1: have your life together, then women come, they come. You
Speaker 1: don't have to look for That's some real ship right there.
Speaker 1: That that's the real ship. But you know what though, man,
Speaker 1: and I know James ain't big on conspiracies, me and
Speaker 1: you are a little bit mal if you look at
Speaker 1: this man, now, let's take it back. If you go
Speaker 1: back and look at the program. And it was on
Speaker 1: TV in the seventies and the eighties, right, it was
Speaker 1: always a play kind of to where the dad was,
Speaker 1: the house was a buffoon, almost like a fool, the
Speaker 1: keys jokes on them and stuff, the mama talking to
Speaker 1: him crazy. You had good times where thelm I was
Speaker 1: talking to the house from that man in this house
Speaker 1: and talk crazy to him or whatever. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. When you had the Jeffersons to where the
Speaker 1: woman come over his house and talk crazy to him,
Speaker 1: you see what I'm saying. They had to listen with
Speaker 1: the white guy. It was all kind of little subliminal
Speaker 1: ship and they always made the man look like a
Speaker 1: damn fool. Well that that was the beginning of the
Speaker 1: feminist movement. That was because of the feminists that started
Speaker 1: all that stuff. It was all it was the slight
Speaker 1: of a hand and subliminal course. But it was due
Speaker 1: to that feminist movement that they felt like women was
Speaker 1: equal to men. But women got to realize that you live,
Speaker 1: you living in the world at me and build see
Speaker 1: because the woman can't run the electoral kain or run
Speaker 1: the up keep uh the infrastructure in this country. That's
Speaker 1: not when we're doing the job already. Women have to
Speaker 1: learn not to do that, you understand. So you took
Speaker 1: all the men away, what would the women do? Yes?
Speaker 1: That and women to our women fans out there, there
Speaker 1: was many miles sce I still in that, you know.
Speaker 1: But the thing was, though, bro, if you go back
Speaker 1: and look at it, the man was always made and
Speaker 1: look like a fool. It's like, if you think about it,
Speaker 1: Married with Children, that was one of the biggest shows
Speaker 1: on TV. Al Bundy was a shoe salesman, right, he
Speaker 1: had a job, but it always showed him just like
Speaker 1: he was just a fool all the time because never
Speaker 1: still did dealing with the feelings movement though still it's
Speaker 1: still it's all a part of it, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Nothing is exempt from that. We just gotta
Speaker 1: understand why the wise you understand now both of y'all
Speaker 1: you know whether they was good in the end or not.
Speaker 1: You know, we all had men in the household, right,
Speaker 1: I mean also with any of your daddy is a
Speaker 1: step daddies and let some broad coming to the house
Speaker 1: and talk to him crazy. It wouldn't have went down
Speaker 1: to my house because the first thing Willie would have said,
Speaker 1: my step up the last name I karding. He'd have
Speaker 1: told my mama. He would have put this bitch and
Speaker 1: ship you know what I'm saying, or or or my
Speaker 1: hamlet you know what I mean, she ain't gonna being
Speaker 1: here talking crazy to me. You're talking to me any
Speaker 1: kind of way. I remember a woman told my stepdaddy,
Speaker 1: you need to put some shoes on. He said, when
Speaker 1: you start peeing some bells around his motherfucker big thing,
Speaker 1: you can talk to me until then. You ain't gotta
Speaker 1: say ship to me. And I said, damn. I thought
Speaker 1: it was kind of harsh at the time. But what
Speaker 1: he was doing is he was putting the check down.
Speaker 1: So what about daddy overflowing his ass? And then my
Speaker 1: mama shot my father, you ain't putting your hands over
Speaker 1: no more. You ain't talking to me like that no more.
Speaker 1: So the motherucker thought he was gonna go out with
Speaker 1: his bitches at the motorcycle club and come back in
Speaker 1: the house. And and that's that. She set her motherfucking
Speaker 1: ass in the chair with a child on her lap.
Speaker 1: It piss up under the top when that thing opened
Speaker 1: the door. What I thought that was the most gangster
Speaker 1: ship I ever seen. But you know what, though, that's
Speaker 1: what I don't know because he got you together. Though, James,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this, Stough, that's a pet peeve
Speaker 1: of mine because my thing is this, It ain't no
Speaker 1: way on God's green Earth. No nigga got no reason
Speaker 1: to be putting her hands and the feemale. I tell
Speaker 1: everybody this, if she's making you want whoop her, ask
Speaker 1: and all that she's the right one. That's true. She
Speaker 1: seems the right one. Because I'm gonna tell you a
Speaker 1: woman today, a woman wants me to fight with her ass.
Speaker 1: If my wife liked to fighting all that ship, we
Speaker 1: wouldn't be together. I'm not doing it though, with some
Speaker 1: women like that. Some women like to fight. My my
Speaker 1: uncle's uh, my uncle's girl. She was at the project. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course I watched her go down with my uncle
Speaker 1: Plo like one nigga come get it, and he was
Speaker 1: busting her ass up. But she was with the business.
Speaker 1: You got some women out there that they ain't gonna
Speaker 1: take that nigga ship. Ain't going for it at all.
Speaker 1: Who wants to? Man. Let me tell you something, I
Speaker 1: don't need a woman. If Nick's three nickas trying to
Speaker 1: jump me and she just stand there holling and hooping
Speaker 1: she joined in, I don't need her. I don't need it.
Speaker 1: But also I don't want my girls fighting fighting. Right,
Speaker 1: every every woman I had in my life, man was
Speaker 1: with the business. My my my ex wife on the
Speaker 1: motorcycle set. I had to tell her, put your motherfucking
Speaker 1: gun back in your tit. I don't have to fight
Speaker 1: every time of Nicka run his mother. She's coming out.
Speaker 1: She's whipping that motherfucking dude five out, ready to pop
Speaker 1: a nigga. My daughter's mama from south Side Pam like Nick,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna fight my nick, and you gotta fight
Speaker 1: me too. I have women that was ready to fight.
Speaker 1: What they do that don't make her a bad woman,
Speaker 1: because I mean, my my oldest son, Mama old lights
Speaker 1: getting motherfucker, pretty as motherfucker, but she ready fight. She
Speaker 1: loved her dude nicking. Y'all ain't gonna do that, feel me.
Speaker 1: My sisters said the j J new Berries with the
Speaker 1: prominentes are as serious robbing too. I don't whatever against
Speaker 1: the woman. Remember huh remember my death? Yeah yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I was right there. Man, right here. Here's the difference
Speaker 1: between a man got a lot of men out there
Speaker 1: that that that let another nigga call him a bit
Speaker 1: or slap him up or push him and kick him around,
Speaker 1: but then he takes that aggression and being because he mad,
Speaker 1: he's gonna go home and call his woman a bitch. No,
Speaker 1: if you ain't mad enough to fight another man for
Speaker 1: disrespecting you, you shouldn't say shipped to your woman for
Speaker 1: disrespecting you. That's the problem here. You got a lot
Speaker 1: of men that all that will beat the ship out
Speaker 1: of a woman, but they are afraid of the big homie,
Speaker 1: the little homie are, or just a man in general.
Speaker 1: That's the problem with motherfucker's. They need to learn their rods.
Speaker 1: If you're a motherfucking man and you're out there with
Speaker 1: the next man, and that man call you a bit
Speaker 1: hand to your business. But if your wife don't cook
Speaker 1: or your girl don't cook dinner, had dinner for you,
Speaker 1: now you want to roll up and be mad? Oh bit,
Speaker 1: you shouldn't know. It's a difference. Some niggas as bitch
Speaker 1: as too, and niggas don't understand that ship. And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keep in one, honey. There's a whole lot of
Speaker 1: bus niggers out here, a whole lot of them. And
Speaker 1: the difference of that, you got some niggas out of
Speaker 1: here that are fighting anything on the planet. But he
Speaker 1: is still going home and beat up his bron Can't
Speaker 1: you be mad at that nigg putting in the same
Speaker 1: boat as a busy Look what you can be. And
Speaker 1: you ain't gotta beat your girl up like that, true,
Speaker 1: because at that point you ain't gotta prove a motherfucking
Speaker 1: thing to your woman. If your woman is supposed to
Speaker 1: feel safe around you, secure. Yeah, that's what me and
Speaker 1: are with me and are the maintaining the protectives of
Speaker 1: women and children. That's just our petitions. That's our natural position, right,
Speaker 1: That's that's that's that's supposed to be our strength. But
Speaker 1: we don't do that. We don't do that. We don't
Speaker 1: let that ship go so far it's just out of hand.
Speaker 1: So how do we get that ship back? We gotta
Speaker 1: learn and condition ourselves. You know what I'm saying. It
Speaker 1: took me to get to my late forties, my my
Speaker 1: fifties for me to understand what what what type of
Speaker 1: person I wanted to be or or now, And I
Speaker 1: can honestly stand up and tell the next motherfucker I'm
Speaker 1: a man. I know I'm a man. I know what
Speaker 1: a man is now I'd have been through it, but
Speaker 1: I know what the fucking man is. And can't nobody
Speaker 1: take that from you? Can't nobody touch that, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna protect any and everything that's in my circle. And
Speaker 1: that's me. You feel me absolutely understand and learning that part,
Speaker 1: then I think we'd be better as black man. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? Yeah, absolutely little, Because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you I had one of the coaches y'all know
Speaker 1: my son played football for USC and one of the
Speaker 1: coaches that told my me and my wife that y'all
Speaker 1: are the best parents I've ever seen. Y'all really be
Speaker 1: there for y'all kids. Right. My thing is this, I
Speaker 1: reward my kids for they when they're doing something excellent.
Speaker 1: When they're doing something that's not excellent, they don't give
Speaker 1: rewarded for the stuff, right. I look at it like this.
Speaker 1: We paid for our oldest son to go to college.
Speaker 1: We didn't have to pay for my middle son to
Speaker 1: go to school because he did what he's supposed to
Speaker 1: do with his grades and football and got himself in
Speaker 1: the school. Rewarded that we got in a car, right,
Speaker 1: My oldest son did right, he wanted got him some ship.
Speaker 1: My daughter she on her way so she would get
Speaker 1: her some stuff. If they wasn't here enough, that wouldn't
Speaker 1: happened like that. But even with that being said, I
Speaker 1: always leot my keys know that you're not obligated to
Speaker 1: shift for you doing what you're supposed to do. I'm
Speaker 1: doing this because as a reward for you. But this
Speaker 1: is what you're supposed to do. You supposed to want
Speaker 1: to be good for yourself in life. You see what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But but but until a certain point, you're
Speaker 1: doing it because you're a parent. And this is what
Speaker 1: parents do. They make their kids great. Your sons want
Speaker 1: to be like dad because dad is doing My dad
Speaker 1: is still here with my mama, so I want to
Speaker 1: be like him. M So let's take Thatt's take it
Speaker 1: a little deeper. So why is it that allows of
Speaker 1: Ball get criticized for doing such an excellent job with
Speaker 1: his three sons? But yeah, the media is only because Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I was gonna say. You know what the
Speaker 1: problem with the you know what the problem with the
Speaker 1: media they got with him is he's a black man
Speaker 1: that breaks every stereo type they ever had. This motherfucker
Speaker 1: loved his sons to death. And what you want to say,
Speaker 1: because I'm trying to get one to the NFL, This
Speaker 1: nigga don't got all his kids. The one kid lead.
Speaker 1: He don't got what do you see league or whatever,
Speaker 1: He's still basketball that. I don't want to blame it
Speaker 1: on white people, but I want to say this, Uh,
Speaker 1: people do not want to see black men with with
Speaker 1: strength and power like that that raised their kids and
Speaker 1: and and let the whole world know that I got
Speaker 1: their back. My kids are good. My kids ain't bad,
Speaker 1: and they're there. If every father, if the world's seen
Speaker 1: every black man as a father out there for their
Speaker 1: kids like that, we wouldn't have a problem. If we
Speaker 1: have a date he opened his mouth. Oh no, we
Speaker 1: don't need niggas to act like that. We don't need
Speaker 1: him out of the public like that. So this is
Speaker 1: why it is so important that we control our own media,
Speaker 1: because if we control our own media, we get to
Speaker 1: put the images out there that that is respectful to see,
Speaker 1: that show black men doing these type of things and
Speaker 1: not and they don't be in the hands of individuals
Speaker 1: that don't have our best interest because it's still the
Speaker 1: Willie Lynch syndrome going on, because they want to put
Speaker 1: out the people that that's not so doing so well
Speaker 1: or going through the society, but they don't want to
Speaker 1: highlight and showcase the lines of the Balls, the Steals,
Speaker 1: the James and the Melly Mills. They don't want to
Speaker 1: do that because then then they got to change the subject.
Speaker 1: That's the topic has got the change the way to
Speaker 1: how we are being defined in this society. So that's
Speaker 1: why it's important that we get on stay on code,
Speaker 1: and we gain access to our own controling our all media.
Speaker 1: That's why when I'm doing the Hood Postman, I always
Speaker 1: say I take individuals that turn negatives into positives. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm interested in exact. So Linzo Ball, we need
Speaker 1: you want to show a big dog, I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: actual people. He comes back that he come to speak
Speaker 1: that truth, man, because we're gonna get you on here,
Speaker 1: bro and get your flowers. Wingo gets you on here
Speaker 1: to talk about that because that man is a great
Speaker 1: father and he's a great us. I'm gonna tell you,
Speaker 1: I'll fought with that little show. That man's wife had
Speaker 1: a stroke. He take care of that woman, built a
Speaker 1: little park in the backyard. He take care of them kid,
Speaker 1: and he loved his keys dog. What's wrong? You know
Speaker 1: if he hadn't took care of her, she'd be dead
Speaker 1: based on how the medical people treat our people when
Speaker 1: they go in the hospital, she'd be dead by them
Speaker 1: depending on them people, right exactly. That man took that
Speaker 1: safe circumstance in that situation to his own hand and said,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get these bugs. I'm gonna get these alternative medicines.
Speaker 1: Where are that, I'm going to get my wife. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take care of my wife. Don't don't worries. I
Speaker 1: don't need y'all. Hill, let me take care of this
Speaker 1: because you know what I told somebody, and see this
Speaker 1: is what I mean. That's why getting me so piste
Speaker 1: off when I see us attacking each other. As soon
Speaker 1: as the man had put his own his sons all
Speaker 1: had their own clothing brands. He made their own tennis shoes.
Speaker 1: The first thing you see niggas, oh them shoes. Utherly
Speaker 1: they're too expensive. Oh man, ain't nobody can wear those.
Speaker 1: It's like, man, why don't you just if you don't
Speaker 1: want to buy them, don't go buy. But don't try
Speaker 1: to stop everybody else from supporting the brothers. They want
Speaker 1: to do some ship and that's the biggest problem with us.
Speaker 1: Dog another black man that didn't look like man, I
Speaker 1: shouldn't have bought ship, but we we support well. I
Speaker 1: don't buy them motherfucker's by Michael Jordan's motherfucker by tennis
Speaker 1: shoes because they want to they want to look like that.
Speaker 1: They got tennis shoes out there five six dollars today.
Speaker 1: I wish you would. I wouldn't, I wish I would,
Speaker 1: But but check this out those y'all. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you what motherfucker's will do. What's his name? And them um,
Speaker 1: she and them could call us niggas behind our back
Speaker 1: and could do all this ship put the um put
Speaker 1: the depict the black people with the watermelon and the
Speaker 1: big lips and all that ship. They can do that ship.
Speaker 1: It can come out to day that goof she hate
Speaker 1: black people, the motherfucker's still gonna sell a big in
Speaker 1: dollars works ship to black people because guess what, these
Speaker 1: punk ask rappers go stealbo water wear the ship. These
Speaker 1: entertains little steal water wear the ship. So there for
Speaker 1: them kids will water wear because they don't give a
Speaker 1: funk at the end of the day. At the end
Speaker 1: of the day, niggas hate niggas. Though I really believe
Speaker 1: that alright, James say she was gonna say, I said,
Speaker 1: it ain't. That is we don't understand how much problem
Speaker 1: we have in our neighborhoods, in our community. We you know,
Speaker 1: a liquor store couldn't stand there, couldn't stay open if
Speaker 1: we didn't go in that motherfucker. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We got motherfucker's and liquor stores coming out and point
Speaker 1: guns at you. Get the funk out of my store
Speaker 1: or away from the parking line. This is part of
Speaker 1: our neighborhood. But we we support the motherfucker's still and
Speaker 1: you see if they could walk right past you after
Speaker 1: they're talking all that ship and don't want to serve
Speaker 1: you nothing, but we're still walking. That motherfucker's throwing by.
Speaker 1: That's a real ship. That's that's that's that bullshit is
Speaker 1: on us. We gotta see how much problem we had
Speaker 1: now y'all won't be here if we didn't sunk with y'all.
Speaker 1: So let's not funk with him. Let's get him out
Speaker 1: of there, because they ain't bringing that money back to
Speaker 1: the neighborhood and helping with the school or parking. No
Speaker 1: ship like that. They're taking that ship back home or
Speaker 1: back to their country. Yeah, that's some real ship. You know.
Speaker 1: He helps everybody, but but us, we don't help each other.
Speaker 1: We don't help us. And you know what I do
Speaker 1: want to do and I want to be example of that. Man.
Speaker 1: On another note, this kid had reached out to UM.
Speaker 1: I think he reached out to all of us on Instagram. Right.
Speaker 1: This kid is twelve years old and has its own
Speaker 1: clothing brand. UM, it's the Resign twenty four. They sent
Speaker 1: you some stuff, James. Now, yeah, they're gonna be sending
Speaker 1: you to check your imbox on your thing. They gotta
Speaker 1: clothe you, gotta cloth brand Resigned twenty four. We go
Speaker 1: post some pictures of this stuff on our Instagram page
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But he sent us, He sent
Speaker 1: us all individually a package. And I'm hook you up
Speaker 1: because that mama been trying to she's probably trying to
Speaker 1: get actually, James, but this kid is twelve years old, man,
Speaker 1: and designed this stuff. The mama asked me when you
Speaker 1: supported I know this ain't the perfect thing of it,
Speaker 1: but he got some those stuff. Man twelve years old
Speaker 1: got a clothing brand. How would I look like? Yeah?
Speaker 1: How would I look as a brother? And the older
Speaker 1: brother this preach black excellence, to deny him of that,
Speaker 1: you noticed, to expose him to people in our platform
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Man, I thought that was incredible.
Speaker 1: So shout out to re sign man. Y'all gonna check
Speaker 1: his page out and everything. But at the serial wo Mac.
Speaker 1: That's his Instagram page in a s e er wooll Mac.
Speaker 1: The man and I just thought that was real. Like,
Speaker 1: I thought that was incredible. Man. I said, this dude
Speaker 1: twelve years old and got his own clothing brain and actually, yeah,
Speaker 1: now I see it. Woman. He actor, he young kid
Speaker 1: from Long Beach man out there doing this thing. Man,
Speaker 1: shout out to him, Man, we appreciate your little brother.
Speaker 1: Keep going STROMP. You know, but if we start supporting
Speaker 1: our own man like and I keep telling people, I
Speaker 1: don't say it a couple of episodes and hopefully we
Speaker 1: can do it one day. If every black man, woman
Speaker 1: and child in this country decided two days, we're not
Speaker 1: gonna spend no money with nobody else. If we go
Speaker 1: to the grocery store, hell, go to fifty four, go
Speaker 1: to the Missing Story. You know what I mean. We're
Speaker 1: not going the Walmark. We're not spend the money. On
Speaker 1: target on mcdownalds. I'm gonna tell you this motherfucker would
Speaker 1: be shut down. They would have to bow down on us,
Speaker 1: but we'd not ever be able to do it because
Speaker 1: it's always gonna be a motherfucker's saying. Oh, I don't
Speaker 1: give a funk about that ship that nig is talking
Speaker 1: about over there. I'm gonna go get my coffee, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go over and get this. I got another
Speaker 1: question for you and James and m Hopefully you guys
Speaker 1: get up talk about it or at least give us
Speaker 1: some insight on it. What do you think about these
Speaker 1: rappers that claimed neighborhoods, they claimed tribes in Compton, l
Speaker 1: A and Watch. What's what's your take on that? You
Speaker 1: know what, man? You want to go first, James, this
Speaker 1: is what I think about it, man. I think brothers
Speaker 1: need to be true to who they are because the
Speaker 1: real cripts and bloods. I know the rappers they made
Speaker 1: mixing to hear in these songs, but it ain't they
Speaker 1: whole thing. It ain't they whold. You feel what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: They don't go overboard with it. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I know one of the biggest um blood exists in
Speaker 1: the game. Man. That's where I've never heard this dude
Speaker 1: say blood one time. I ain't never heard James say
Speaker 1: blood before. So the real king that's got what I'm
Speaker 1: talking I'm talking about the dudes that grew up in
Speaker 1: these these uh suburban homes, that grew up in upper
Speaker 1: middle class asked suburbia, never knew anything about the game,
Speaker 1: but somehow got got only made a think uh hit
Speaker 1: record wrap and then they decide, well, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: to Compton and I'm gonna go claim mob. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go claim cent Town. I'm gonna go clain Proof Town.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about those in the business. A lot of guys,
Speaker 1: A lot of those guys, they sit back, listen to
Speaker 1: your MTV raps and then just like this, they figured
Speaker 1: out they have a challenge. They know the rap, but
Speaker 1: with the talent going out there and trying to get
Speaker 1: a record deal, get sound or heard, motherfucker's realized they
Speaker 1: need a image. They need to the image that you
Speaker 1: see with with most gangster rappers. They feel that they
Speaker 1: need that, so they reach out to the gangsters. Let's
Speaker 1: say you know, a certain individual knew that he didn't
Speaker 1: have an in him too pull it off and do this.
Speaker 1: So I needed real gangs that I needed these motherfucker's
Speaker 1: to make my dream come true. You know, rap, whether
Speaker 1: he didn't rap, whatever, he knew that he had to
Speaker 1: have that image. And a lot of these cats coming
Speaker 1: from Beverly Hills, these white boys want to be rappers.
Speaker 1: They know that they need an image. They need to
Speaker 1: go to a hood. That's the only way they can
Speaker 1: pull it off. And the money played a big part
Speaker 1: of that because a lot of the guys in the
Speaker 1: hood don't gonna have a way out already. So what
Speaker 1: why shouldn't not let his motherfucker slide in and and
Speaker 1: play that party, payed forward that and and that's and
Speaker 1: that's what my point is that that's blind. But we
Speaker 1: need to get a nune to score your agreement from you,
Speaker 1: so we don't get to get to Kasi six nine
Speaker 1: by you if you decide to go the other way,
Speaker 1: because we need to be compensated in a way that
Speaker 1: fits this tribe situation. You know what I mean, Because
Speaker 1: you all this money, but then you want to run
Speaker 1: away from the circumstances you play it self. Destruction is
Speaker 1: already in the hood. We already got our fingers on
Speaker 1: the destruction button. To be a hood and to be
Speaker 1: certified in the hood. We should never allow motherfucker's to
Speaker 1: come in our motherfucking neighborhoods and perpetrate anything a rapper,
Speaker 1: uh actor or whomever. If you ain't coming to my
Speaker 1: hood to say I think you got talent, let me
Speaker 1: put you in the movie funck having niggas come and say,
Speaker 1: I want to be from your hood. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: thirty thousand, They go ten thousand. I want to be
Speaker 1: from the hood. What he do out there represents everybody
Speaker 1: in that hood, just like just uh six nine jakasshu
Speaker 1: think that that dude did. The homies opened the door
Speaker 1: for that ship, and then now they allow it because
Speaker 1: the money has blinded us. Now that ain't no hoodship
Speaker 1: no more. Now now niggas is on survival mode. Now
Speaker 1: niggas are doing fifteen and twenty in prison because of
Speaker 1: the consequences because we allow people to infantrate what we
Speaker 1: are and perpetrate what we are and they're not. So
Speaker 1: it ain't uh six nine, motherfucking fault. It ain't sure
Speaker 1: knife fall, it ain't it ain't none of these other
Speaker 1: guys that in the hood trying to be from the hood.
Speaker 1: They don't want to be from the hood. They just
Speaker 1: need the hood to get big, right, So they're using
Speaker 1: the hood for a purpose. That's all it is. And
Speaker 1: but motherfucker ain't and and broke bread in the hood
Speaker 1: and spill no blood in the hood. You could never
Speaker 1: be a lott nigga period. You can never be. I
Speaker 1: don't give a funk what you do and how much
Speaker 1: money you got because he's not here. It's not here.
Speaker 1: You don't even know how to think like a motherfucking gainster.
Speaker 1: You can perpetrate a fraud all day because then niggas
Speaker 1: ain't looking because they already got their blind bowls on
Speaker 1: because they're getting paid. So when the ship get real,
Speaker 1: then that's when you see the real that was really
Speaker 1: in them, that was something for in an alien to
Speaker 1: what you had. Survival mode is a motherfucker. Anybody, anybody
Speaker 1: that feels threatened and see that the ship is coming,
Speaker 1: they're gonna either crawl up, they're gonna ball up, roll up,
Speaker 1: or they're gonna try to get the funk out of there,
Speaker 1: or they're gonna give it up. Survival motive is a
Speaker 1: motherfucker and it comes in all shape, size and forms
Speaker 1: the whole mine. If you ain't something made, if gainst
Speaker 1: somebody nature, not by choice, If you don't understand what
Speaker 1: you are and where you're going with what you're doing,
Speaker 1: you ain't ship. You ain't ship you. You're just walking
Speaker 1: into motherfucking on the in the dead alley. One way
Speaker 1: to go, one way out. Now when you get to
Speaker 1: the end, and then had to come back, what you're
Speaker 1: gonna do, because you know these motherfucker's at the end
Speaker 1: of this motherfucker waiting for you. They don't they don't
Speaker 1: even anticipate that. The niggers that they they're rolling with
Speaker 1: got tune stone mind so sets and grave yard dispositions
Speaker 1: for real, for every situation. The two motherfucker's that they
Speaker 1: sought out and they looked for to get to help
Speaker 1: them get to where they want or help them build
Speaker 1: their their their their repertoire, whatever the case might be.
Speaker 1: Them the two motherfucker's in the hood thinking we hustlick,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk this, and they got this paper, we're
Speaker 1: gonna get this money. Y'alla, y'alla, And at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, everybody that tried to do that and
Speaker 1: back by it on their ass, yea, and back by
Speaker 1: it on it because number one, ie, motherfucker's what I
Speaker 1: think I should give you. That was when I'm down
Speaker 1: for us. We got what we what he thought we deserved,
Speaker 1: of what we was gonna get. It was never intended
Speaker 1: for us to get bitch or after hood. It was
Speaker 1: only intended for us to come and and and and
Speaker 1: school him on what he wanted to be and what
Speaker 1: he wanted to see exactly explain. Yeah, So that's that's
Speaker 1: that's what that is. And and you know, I just
Speaker 1: think that if you're from the hood, man, the certain
Speaker 1: rules that you just don't allow you don't allow anybody
Speaker 1: to come in the hood because it's a disrespect that
Speaker 1: every homey that died on the block right in prison
Speaker 1: should let him come in infantrate or portray to be
Speaker 1: a thud nigga and we know he's not right right
Speaker 1: right or that ship and and talk about nigga. This
Speaker 1: Santana nigga. You're from Milwaukee. You ain't never been in
Speaker 1: the hood, you ain't never broke bread. How can you
Speaker 1: claim this? How can you put that on your body
Speaker 1: that's not for you, and that's disrespect you. Every hoomi
Speaker 1: that's won't get and living, every nigga that even thought
Speaker 1: about being a cripuck blood should be mad at that ship.
Speaker 1: We live our life. We wake up put on not drawings. Something.
Speaker 1: Niggas won't even wear blue underwear because they so blooded out. Something.
Speaker 1: You don't even put on the red t shirt off
Speaker 1: or use red toothpage because they're so cript out of
Speaker 1: lowed out. But you're lit uh, light skinned version of
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson coming this motherfucker and say let's beat it,
Speaker 1: and let's this, let's work. And now you don't dodge
Speaker 1: your motherfucking hair. Now you don't play this nigga game.
Speaker 1: And now you man, let me not get started. Man,
Speaker 1: it ain't working. Man on that note, Man, that's a
Speaker 1: perfect way man in this man, Milly mao, Man, we
Speaker 1: appreciate you coming in man and sit with us. Man. Man,
Speaker 1: let me give me, let me get my info out there. Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's a melly man on the Hood po Man.
Speaker 1: Go follow me on YouTube, Instagram, the Hood Postman on Twitter, Twitter,
Speaker 1: The Hood post Man and Milly Gibson on Facebook. Man,
Speaker 1: be sure to follow me, man, I we're gonna get
Speaker 1: this same popping man. We're gonna get it together because
Speaker 1: big still James m c a man. They stay on
Speaker 1: cold Man. Thanks the chronic post right the shore. And
Speaker 1: we appreciate you. Man. We got James, you know, I
Speaker 1: know it's a little bit and he was about to
Speaker 1: say some movies you're gonna say migg No. I was
Speaker 1: just saying, man, everybody got to hear Millie Mayo. When
Speaker 1: I first heard you, I was like, this motherfucker he
Speaker 1: got he got some hood knowledge he understand and not
Speaker 1: for the people on the outside, but the people on
Speaker 1: the inside and the hood mail. These cats need to
Speaker 1: hear that that that voice. These cats need to hear
Speaker 1: that knowledge or what the hood is. I appreciate that, James, man.
Speaker 1: They need to they need to get it because a
Speaker 1: lot of cats is walking with depends halfway off their
Speaker 1: as and don't even know why they're doing it. These
Speaker 1: niggas ain't taught ship, ain't learned ship. And that's why
Speaker 1: gag banging is fucked up today because they don't got
Speaker 1: and they can't absorb the knowledge that you're putting out there.
Speaker 1: They don't understand the ship and I tell each and everybody, Man,
Speaker 1: don't wait till you fifty seven years old to say
Speaker 1: I give. Man. I gave a long time ago, but
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to. I didn't know how to
Speaker 1: throw my hands up and surrender my brothers. But now
Speaker 1: that I know, and if it is what it is
Speaker 1: on that man, I said, both of your brothers. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm about with James mcjo still an m c A tonight.
Speaker 1: We have special guests in here. He's the former CEO
Speaker 1: of No Limit Records. Mr Toben Corson. Are you doing
Speaker 1: like Toby Hey, are you doing? Norms? Good to see still.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on the show, man, I mean
Speaker 1: I've been waiting. You got all the all the hottest,
Speaker 1: hottest people on the show us. So I was like, Man,
Speaker 1: the fact he reached out to me to be on it,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm blessed and I appreciate that. Oh for sure, Man,
Speaker 1: We're glad they have you on the show, Man, because
Speaker 1: you know, and looking at the No Limit chronicles like
Speaker 1: everybody else in the comfory at the time when it
Speaker 1: came out. I think, like everybody else in the comfort
Speaker 1: the time, I was, you know, binging No Limit back
Speaker 1: in the day, just like everybody else. Yes, how did
Speaker 1: you initially hook up? What was your background? Like, how
Speaker 1: did you guys like connect? Well, you know, I was
Speaker 1: in UH. I was in college radio, spinning records and UH.
Speaker 1: I actually UH was doing a show and this is
Speaker 1: about ninety two, and I had my god brother used
Speaker 1: to UH used to work at the foot locker. He
Speaker 1: was the manager at the foot lockers, so he used
Speaker 1: to go in there all the time and my tennis shoes.
Speaker 1: So I was trying to do a show and had
Speaker 1: a rapper dawn out on me at the last minute,
Speaker 1: and I just had to be talking to my god
Speaker 1: brother and he was like, man, I got this cat
Speaker 1: master P. I know he'll show up to do a
Speaker 1: show for you. And I hadn't you know, I didn't
Speaker 1: know who he was. I didn't know what, no anything
Speaker 1: about him other than I just needed a rapper to
Speaker 1: do a show. And he came out. I had a
Speaker 1: couple of dollars, put a couple of dollars in his pocket.
Speaker 1: But he came out here at the T shirts and
Speaker 1: did a cool show. And then we met each other
Speaker 1: and kind of just hit it off. So we just
Speaker 1: kind of kept in contact during that time, and I
Speaker 1: would do He would send me stuff and I promote
Speaker 1: and and play, you know, play music on the radio
Speaker 1: and that kind of stuff. He'd had to send me
Speaker 1: these cassette tapes and I played these cassette tapes and
Speaker 1: I do some giveaway stuff. And that's how we kind
Speaker 1: of built a relationship. And it wasn't until it is
Speaker 1: when I kind of came off board and just really
Speaker 1: started working working for No Limit in a variety capacity.
Speaker 1: And then at that time in I had already known St. Charles,
Speaker 1: who Forty's uncle was always sending me promotional stuff for
Speaker 1: me to promote, and I was promoting Forty and The
Speaker 1: Click and all those guys. And actually St. Charles was
Speaker 1: the one who had told Pete man, you really need
Speaker 1: to get Tobin to run the label and be your
Speaker 1: manager because you really need to show that kind of
Speaker 1: professional business side. And at that point he just said, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, let's do this. Because I had already cultivated
Speaker 1: a good relationship. I had all these ideas about marketing
Speaker 1: and different strategy and how to how to get more
Speaker 1: positioning in retail and really how to try to sell
Speaker 1: records without necessarily having that radio play and going through
Speaker 1: college radio and get and kind of building that buzz
Speaker 1: and building that name. And then at that time when St.
Speaker 1: Charles reached out to and St. Charles was talking to
Speaker 1: Pete Man, you really need to get with Toben. He's
Speaker 1: the one that said, Okay, you're gonna run the label.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be my manager, business and personal manager. And
Speaker 1: and that's kind of how things kind of took off
Speaker 1: from there, because if you look at how no limit
Speaker 1: was structured prior to that point and be coming out board,
Speaker 1: he put out probably about seventeen different projects that no
Speaker 1: one was really checking for. And then when we got
Speaker 1: together and we did the Ghettos Trying to Kill Me
Speaker 1: and then we put together the West Coast Bad Boys,
Speaker 1: that's what things started to take off from there. Let
Speaker 1: me So, what do you think it was that wasn't
Speaker 1: orisonate with the people about Peas music at first? Well?
Speaker 1: I think it was. You gotta understand that that he
Speaker 1: quite didn't have his have his own sound. If you
Speaker 1: listen to all the old stuff prior to the Ghettos
Speaker 1: Trying to Kill Me, production was it was okay, but
Speaker 1: it wasn't really at that professional level. So when people
Speaker 1: would listen to it, they were kind of like, well,
Speaker 1: they would listen to it, but they weren't really like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I gotta buy this record. And I think what happened
Speaker 1: was when we started to to work with folks like
Speaker 1: you know, Al Eden and Keim Franklin and really start
Speaker 1: developing that West Coast sound, that's what people wanted to
Speaker 1: listen to. More of what he was doing, like e. A.
Speaker 1: Ski and his production. That's when people started really like, okay,
Speaker 1: this is we taken our production game to another level.
Speaker 1: And then people wanted to hear what he was doing
Speaker 1: because he sure seemed like he came out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: So he had seventeen He had seventeen full length albums
Speaker 1: out before that, but they weren't full leaks, but they
Speaker 1: were singles, EPs, albums, all kinds of projects he was
Speaker 1: doing prior to So, like anyone who watches the No
Speaker 1: Limit Chronicles to see, it started off from a retail
Speaker 1: store and it was doing shows and opening up for
Speaker 1: people and doing promotion and it took a it took
Speaker 1: a while. It was years. So if you think about
Speaker 1: eighty nine, when when when No Limits started to ninety two,
Speaker 1: when I kind of came on board to ninety three
Speaker 1: when we started to get regional success, and by the
Speaker 1: time we came out in ninety four with the West
Speaker 1: Coast Bad Boys, that's what put P on the map nationally.
Speaker 1: So even though it was a West Coast record, people
Speaker 1: from the Midwest and Pardon the South started to want
Speaker 1: to check out this West because bad boy sound and
Speaker 1: what what we were doing. So let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: when did you guys first realized that she was something?
Speaker 1: I think when we did that, I think you know,
Speaker 1: P always had belief in himself and what he was doing.
Speaker 1: I think what we realized when we had something specials
Speaker 1: when we did the Ghettos Trying to Kill Me. So
Speaker 1: if you look at the Ghettos Trying to Kill Me album,
Speaker 1: it was P M bad with this woman. Uh it
Speaker 1: was King George was in the back with a gun,
Speaker 1: kind of portraying the ghetto. And when people saw that
Speaker 1: concept of the ghettos trying to kill me and we
Speaker 1: did this record called to eleven, uh talk about Robin
Speaker 1: liquor stores, that's when we started to see we have something.
Speaker 1: And then what happened was there was this guy that
Speaker 1: was going around robbing liquor stores, and he was robbing
Speaker 1: h people at a t M S. And when he
Speaker 1: got arrested, he had told people that the master p
Speaker 1: record to allow then is what made him go out
Speaker 1: and rob these people, because every time he listened to
Speaker 1: the Red before he robbed people, he would go listen
Speaker 1: to the record or you have to record and take that,
Speaker 1: and he was listening to it before he robbed people.
Speaker 1: So then at that point is when folks started to
Speaker 1: really know who we were and we started to kind
Speaker 1: of build that name. So that was really you know,
Speaker 1: when we knew, like, wow, we have something. When we
Speaker 1: got when we were affecting people and their cool thought
Speaker 1: process and what they're doing, and we started to be
Speaker 1: in the newspaper and on television, and that's when we knew, okay,
Speaker 1: we could really make something big out of it. And
Speaker 1: peace also he started to kind of form his own identity.
Speaker 1: Absolutely at that point he started to realize, you know,
Speaker 1: because because before that he was kind of taking a
Speaker 1: little bit of sound from this artist and that artist
Speaker 1: and wasn't sure which direction to go. But by the
Speaker 1: time we did the by the time we went through
Speaker 1: that process and did that record to get us trying
Speaker 1: to kill me, and then we started to put things
Speaker 1: together for the West Coast Bad Boys. That's when ultimately
Speaker 1: we knew we had something and things were starting to move.
Speaker 1: And by the time we put that West Coast Bad
Speaker 1: Boys record out and it hit billboard charts and it
Speaker 1: was on for consecutive weeks. And then next year, what
Speaker 1: everyone's calling us and wanting to do something with this
Speaker 1: because we had we were not only were selling all
Speaker 1: the records, but we were on the billboard charts. That's
Speaker 1: when folks started to kind of just say, Okay, master
Speaker 1: P is doing something different and what we're doing at
Speaker 1: no limited special? What made you guys go in the direction?
Speaker 1: Because I noticed on West Coast Bad Boys and stuff,
Speaker 1: you guys were working with a lot of different producers,
Speaker 1: most of the big area producers. When was it decided?
Speaker 1: When do you think it was decided that they would
Speaker 1: go to route and bring them like a beats and
Speaker 1: by the pound, like like who decided that? Well, I
Speaker 1: think it was lower about having a home bed. So
Speaker 1: if you looked at master P, master P had was
Speaker 1: sell records up in the Northwest and Seattle, in Portland,
Speaker 1: in that area in the Midwest, so you you talk
Speaker 1: about Kansas City, Missouri, Iowa. We were selling records there,
Speaker 1: parts in the South and parts in the West Coast,
Speaker 1: and to make sure we had a home base, because
Speaker 1: if you think about most popular rappers, they have a
Speaker 1: home base, whether they're from parts of New York or
Speaker 1: they're from Newisiana, they're protected wherever they have a home base.
Speaker 1: And at that point, he was kind of an outsider
Speaker 1: because he wasn't you know, he didn't sound like a
Speaker 1: West Coast rapper because he had he had this real
Speaker 1: Southern accident and he really, you know, even though we
Speaker 1: spent time in in Richmond and in the Bay Area,
Speaker 1: he represented the Bay Area with the West Coast bad boys,
Speaker 1: but people didn't really you know, know he as being
Speaker 1: a California guy, because all the California folks were like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're not from out here, you country. So going back
Speaker 1: south was I think, well, ultimately what we decided to do,
Speaker 1: and even bringing off Beast the power that has to
Speaker 1: do with with with Mr Sturvan and his relationship with
Speaker 1: KLC and then also Moby Dick being peace cousin and
Speaker 1: then building a relationship with me and X. We knew
Speaker 1: we had to have that Southern sound. But the reason
Speaker 1: why we went to the South was to build that
Speaker 1: home base. And then, just to be frank, a dollar
Speaker 1: went a lot further in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Tennessee
Speaker 1: than it did in California. Like I could spend five
Speaker 1: thousand dollars in California and that's not gonna get you
Speaker 1: as much as if you spend five thousand dollars in Louisiana, Texas,
Speaker 1: Mrs Sipia, Alabama. So from a financial standpoint, we had
Speaker 1: more to work with from a budgetary standpoint in the South.
Speaker 1: He was from the South, so he wanted to go home.
Speaker 1: We spent a lot of time down there, his relationship
Speaker 1: with me a x uh Serve on KLC Moby Dick.
Speaker 1: It just made sense that we do something with the South,
Speaker 1: and the South had that really deep base, that sound
Speaker 1: that we were looking for at that time. Man, you
Speaker 1: know him coming from the Bay area, like you said,
Speaker 1: he sounded like a Louisiana kid. So I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: it was some kind of resistance if there. Did you
Speaker 1: get a lot of hate in Bay Yeah, I would
Speaker 1: say I would say not from the fans, but some
Speaker 1: of the artists had a problem that P came on
Speaker 1: the scene. So think about this. We do the West
Speaker 1: Coast Bad Boys. We take all the popular rappers on
Speaker 1: the West Coast throughout the Bay Area and we put
Speaker 1: them on an album. We put Master P Presents on
Speaker 1: the top of that album. So everybody thought Master P
Speaker 1: was the leader of all these folks. So who do
Speaker 1: you have on there? You have folks like for Sacramento,
Speaker 1: like c Boat, you have Jay to the biggest figure.
Speaker 1: You have the delinquents. Uh. You know, when you start
Speaker 1: thinking about these artists that are on we had Rapping Forte.
Speaker 1: So all of these rappers that are popular in their hoods,
Speaker 1: and Master P is presented as the leader of this crew.
Speaker 1: So at that point we put all these records we
Speaker 1: are we get on on the inside of the West
Speaker 1: Coast Bad Boys. So people were like, man, he is
Speaker 1: representing the West Coast Bad Boys, and that kind of
Speaker 1: built that built a name for us. So I would
Speaker 1: say that there were artists out there was just like, man,
Speaker 1: who did he think he is? He's not from here.
Speaker 1: He came here and he's solidified himself with the fans
Speaker 1: by being, you know, the head of the West Coast
Speaker 1: Bad Boys are leading the West Coast Bad Boys. That's dope, man.
Speaker 1: So y'all moving units now, man, y'all starting to sell
Speaker 1: a lot of Rigords and everything. Yes, the attention from
Speaker 1: the Rigord labels coming out right absolutely. Who was the
Speaker 1: first one, who was the first major to hit you
Speaker 1: guys up? Well, Big Beat Atlantic was kind of rushing
Speaker 1: out us pretty hard. Uh M c A was contacting us,
Speaker 1: our c A was contacting us. Um, you know, Universal
Speaker 1: was in the mix at that particular time, but Big
Speaker 1: Beat Atlantic was probably that the label. And Craig Common
Speaker 1: was the one that was pushing so hard from Master
Speaker 1: Peak and what you know, ultimately P would have actually
Speaker 1: signed with them. And I probably the whole thing was
Speaker 1: he was ready to sacrifice the Master P name by
Speaker 1: getting money from Big Beat Atlantic, and the whole plan
Speaker 1: what he wanted to do was he was gonna take
Speaker 1: whatever money he was gonna get from Big Beat Atlantic
Speaker 1: and put that money in the silk the Shocker and
Speaker 1: put that money into No Limit Records. And I was
Speaker 1: the person who said, We're not gonna do that, doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense. We can hold out, because I believe it
Speaker 1: or not. C murder and King George wanted to beat
Speaker 1: me up because they was like I was messing with
Speaker 1: their money, because we were looking at a pretty decent
Speaker 1: sized amount of money. So what we did was we
Speaker 1: kind of rolled it out. We rolled the dice on
Speaker 1: doing the next record. So after the West Coast that
Speaker 1: Voids came out and we were hot, we did another
Speaker 1: record called ninety nine Ways to Die. So when we
Speaker 1: we we he probably if we wouldn't have did ninety
Speaker 1: nine Ways to Die, he may have signed there if
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have said, no, we're not with this whole
Speaker 1: doll let's hold on if they were going to give
Speaker 1: us actually a lot of dollars but a small percentage
Speaker 1: if we hold on. And this is out that we
Speaker 1: had met with uh Leroy Bobbit, who was entertainment attorney
Speaker 1: and uh he was he was a partner at Loebe
Speaker 1: and Lobe, and I met him to a guy named
Speaker 1: Gary Reeves who who is executive producer of a TV
Speaker 1: show called Give TV with Blair Underwood and uh and
Speaker 1: one of the Bush daughters. He's the one who introduced
Speaker 1: me to Mr bobb It and Mr Bobby was kind
Speaker 1: of explaining what kind of deals we could get. So
Speaker 1: between him and then I had some conversations with folks
Speaker 1: like Wendy Day from the Rap Collige, and they bolger
Speaker 1: kind of saying to me, like, you know, here are
Speaker 1: the different type of deals. Here's the production deal, here's
Speaker 1: an artist deal, here's and I kind of just said, well, look,
Speaker 1: and we're selling all these records now in dependently with
Speaker 1: no distribution or with with our distribution national distribution, but
Speaker 1: no no real mechanical arm like an Atlantic Records, or
Speaker 1: no real mechanical arm like a like a Capital or
Speaker 1: a Priority. Just imagine if we could hold on own
Speaker 1: our masters and then start driving business and all we
Speaker 1: need folks to do is just to make sure they're
Speaker 1: in the in the system and in the retail store.
Speaker 1: So when we turned down the big beat Atlantic deal,
Speaker 1: we connected with E. A. Ski. We started talking to Priority,
Speaker 1: and then at that particular time, we did a deal,
Speaker 1: a distribution deal with Priority to do all of our
Speaker 1: to do our albums. So the Ways to Die album
Speaker 1: was out, it was on the Billboard charts. We had
Speaker 1: success with the West Coast bad Boys. Priority was really
Speaker 1: focused on the next album, which was the t r
Speaker 1: U True Album, and the Dallas South Hustles, and that
Speaker 1: was really what they wanted. They wanted the true album
Speaker 1: in the Dallas South Hustlers. But the end, the real
Speaker 1: thing was like the ice ting on the cake was
Speaker 1: the ice Cream Man was the one that we knew
Speaker 1: was gonna be a big record. So that each title
Speaker 1: that you guys have started working on, the ice Cream
Speaker 1: Man that far in advance. Yeah, so we had already
Speaker 1: did the artwork. So one thing about when we were
Speaker 1: the one thing we always did, we always did the
Speaker 1: artwork on the inside. So any album you saw nine
Speaker 1: times out of tend those records weren't recording yet. So
Speaker 1: what we might do was do one or two songs.
Speaker 1: We record some stuff and figure out which song is
Speaker 1: gonna go on which album. So at that particular time,
Speaker 1: the ice Cream Man wasn't done. In fact, we at
Speaker 1: that point we hadn't even done it. We hadn't done
Speaker 1: one song. We have gromoted the ice Cream Man so
Speaker 1: much and we promoted the down South Uster so much
Speaker 1: that the distributors, the retail stores were waiting on the
Speaker 1: album like they wanted that. They wanted that uh ice
Speaker 1: Cream Man, and they wanted that South Husters those albums
Speaker 1: were We were promoting those albums one two years in advance,
Speaker 1: and people were kept waiting on the album. So that's
Speaker 1: really what it was. So by the time we did
Speaker 1: the distribution deal, which was fifteen split, eight percent for
Speaker 1: us the percent for them, they were already waiting on
Speaker 1: the true album. They were waiting on the down South
Speaker 1: Husters and they really wanted that, uh, the ice Cream
Speaker 1: Man album. So yeah, so let me answer this for
Speaker 1: the people that don't know out there. When he went
Speaker 1: to Priority Big the Atlantic, they wanted to give him
Speaker 1: like an artist deal, so they was giving front loading
Speaker 1: with a bunch of money up front. When when you
Speaker 1: guys took the Priority deal, assuming there was no in
Speaker 1: front money. No, So originally there was no advanced money.
Speaker 1: It was we're just gonna do a distribution deal. What
Speaker 1: came after the fact when they wanted to start these albums,
Speaker 1: that's when they came back and they wrote us to check.
Speaker 1: So they wrote us to check for some money, and
Speaker 1: then they really wanted to downs out Hustler album. That
Speaker 1: the question was how much do you need to get
Speaker 1: this down to a Hustler album done? So once they
Speaker 1: gave us money for that, and advance for that. That's
Speaker 1: when the percentages went from to eight twenty, so they
Speaker 1: took five percent. They took five percent that in order
Speaker 1: to advance his money, to finish the UH, to finish
Speaker 1: the ice Cream Man album, to record the ice Cream
Speaker 1: Man album to down South Husters. So we pretty much
Speaker 1: did t r U album, the down South Husters. Ice
Speaker 1: Cream Man mea excess project. Ki had a EP. She
Speaker 1: was doing the whole no Limit thing. Man's just sex
Speaker 1: one of those interest stories because it's a few good
Speaker 1: stories that like Rag Richard, you know, the country Boy goes,
Speaker 1: the Big Signal strikes of rich Man. Yes, y'all had
Speaker 1: an incredible thing going, but eventually to start being some distinction.
Speaker 1: Do you think things changed when the money start really
Speaker 1: coming in. I mean, I don't even know if I
Speaker 1: don't even know if it was just about the money.
Speaker 1: I just think what happens is when people are concerned
Speaker 1: about you know, you know. I think ultimately it wasn't
Speaker 1: even about the money, because for for me, I was
Speaker 1: all in on what we're doing, because I believed in
Speaker 1: what we're doing. I think it was just had to
Speaker 1: do with people start to wonder, um, you know, who's
Speaker 1: who's saying what and doing what, And there's all this
Speaker 1: talk about whose album is gonna come out next, and
Speaker 1: and whether they want to you know, do their own
Speaker 1: thing because their album is not coming out for for
Speaker 1: several months, and we see other people being moved up,
Speaker 1: and I mean, you know, there's just that whole you know,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, people get frustrated by
Speaker 1: where they are and what place they are in their position.
Speaker 1: And I think that just was the that was the
Speaker 1: dynamic of the frustration of you know, where where my where,
Speaker 1: where's my place in the label and where that goes.
Speaker 1: I think certain artists were probably frustrated financially about where
Speaker 1: money was going and where they think the money ship win.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you know, it
Speaker 1: was No Limit. Master p was the the CEO of
Speaker 1: No Limit. I was the executive vice president and manager
Speaker 1: and ran the label and managed him and and pretty
Speaker 1: much managed the artist. It was a family affair, and
Speaker 1: like anything, when you when you bring money into the falls,
Speaker 1: it does kind of create this this kind of this
Speaker 1: kind of dissension in the ranks. But it's also how
Speaker 1: are we communicating when people's projects are coming out? And
Speaker 1: what that looks like. And there's sometimes there could be
Speaker 1: some frustration around, well, wait a minute, my album is
Speaker 1: supposed to come out at this particular point. I got
Speaker 1: bills to pay, I got things to do. I'm ready
Speaker 1: to blow up. But then I might be moved down
Speaker 1: on the down on the packing water and because for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, maybe it's the sound, maybe maybe the the
Speaker 1: idea or the ideas or the projects, or people are asking, uh,
Speaker 1: distributors asking, or retailers are asking for specific records, and
Speaker 1: people get people get moved out and peck and more.
Speaker 1: It happens like that and tomb your label too, right,
Speaker 1: you know, my I'm was supposed to come out and
Speaker 1: then it gets on the shelf for several months and
Speaker 1: you don't have the right style yet, so we're gonna
Speaker 1: push you back. All of that thing is kind of
Speaker 1: how it works. Well, you know, you can get on
Speaker 1: our website at Tobin tel b I N Coston, c
Speaker 1: os t e n dot com. You can follow me
Speaker 1: on Instagram and Tobin cost and that's probably the best
Speaker 1: way to connect with me. But if you go to
Speaker 1: my website Tobin Costing dot com, uh, people email me.
Speaker 1: You can email me on there, and I usually get
Speaker 1: back to people pretty quick via email or phone number.
Speaker 1: I will just tell people leave your phone number, because
Speaker 1: I'm good with text and calling. I'm a little bit
Speaker 1: better old school with picking up the phone, with calling
Speaker 1: people and having the conversation. I mean, that's kind of
Speaker 1: how we connected. And I try to get you. I
Speaker 1: don't like doing the whole Instagram thing. I get people.
Speaker 1: They don't ask for the numbers anymore. What's your Instagram page?
Speaker 1: And it's like to take my don't remember and call
Speaker 1: you don't take those in there. I don't like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, I usually if people get at me, I
Speaker 1: don't have it where it notifies me, so I gotta
Speaker 1: clog on there. But I used to tell people, you
Speaker 1: get all my if you get on my website, you
Speaker 1: reach out to me, I will email me. Most people
Speaker 1: don't email me their phone number, so I just tell
Speaker 1: folks all the time, email me and email me your
Speaker 1: phone number. I will text you or call you, and
Speaker 1: so we get out of a conversation and that's, you know.
Speaker 1: I try to get back to everyone, and a lot
Speaker 1: of times people be like, WHOA, you got back to me?
Speaker 1: And I did that even when I was at no limit.
Speaker 1: It was really important for me when people people sent
Speaker 1: information to me pick up the phone and call for
Speaker 1: mail them and let them know and give them feedback.
Speaker 1: Especially when folks are giving me demo tapes. I'm always
Speaker 1: real big about Hey, somebody sends me their demo tape.
Speaker 1: I want to make sure that I do my part
Speaker 1: and at least get back to them and give them
Speaker 1: give them feedback good, bad or in different and not
Speaker 1: just asking. Because you just let me into a question,
Speaker 1: how those demo tapes that you got in how much
Speaker 1: good ship did you find? I probably would say one
Speaker 1: out of one out of twenty, so it was that
Speaker 1: five percent. Probably one out of twenty. I find something
Speaker 1: that I'm like, okay, there's something here. Um. Sometimes you
Speaker 1: find something that's just a dominant erupt. There are a
Speaker 1: lot of artists that we got demo tapes for when
Speaker 1: we did the Downstop Hustlers that we were like, whoa,
Speaker 1: these are underground cats and they sounded good. Let's try
Speaker 1: to do something with them. So I would say probably
Speaker 1: five percent of the time, there'll be a bunch of
Speaker 1: people would send your stuff to be like whoa. But
Speaker 1: I always got back to people let them know what
Speaker 1: I thought good, bad or different. Like I would always
Speaker 1: tell people, you know, just keep working, keep blinding, or
Speaker 1: I would tell people like, hey, this is not for us,
Speaker 1: but I would just encourage you to keep working. I
Speaker 1: always told people to keep working, even if I didn't
Speaker 1: like what they were doing. So did you So you
Speaker 1: just say you put a couple of those cats on
Speaker 1: the down so down South Busters. Absolutely didn't you have
Speaker 1: one of any artists that we know from no limit
Speaker 1: that kind of came from the whole demo tape thing. Well,
Speaker 1: more than likely p KO who was on the Down
Speaker 1: South Busters. This guy's Protectas was on their twenty to
Speaker 1: life was on there. Uh, we got their their tape
Speaker 1: for their demo tape. Uh. The other one was CCG
Speaker 1: Scala Citygs from Kansas City. They were on that Down
Speaker 1: South Hustlers and they put out a solo album. They
Speaker 1: hit bill Board. So nobody really big. But there were
Speaker 1: just artists on there that we got that were that
Speaker 1: were talented, and and we put them. We put them
Speaker 1: on and did some did some projects with whether it
Speaker 1: was the was whether it was a compilation or we
Speaker 1: put something together. We did shows with them, you know,
Speaker 1: and and that's really the key. You got a good style.
Speaker 1: I don't care if you you know, you're recording on
Speaker 1: the four track cassette or you're doing something digitally high end.
Speaker 1: If you got talented, it will show. Yes, Man, I
Speaker 1: appreciate you sitting down with us tonight. Bro. Absolutely, Man,
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, and uh, you know, I always love
Speaker 1: what you do. And just to be part of, uh
Speaker 1: one of your shows with all the legends that you
Speaker 1: have on man, it's a it's a complete honor for me.
Speaker 1: Oh Man, you a lection yourself. Man. I can't wait, Man,
Speaker 1: I can't wait. I can't wait to show the world
Speaker 1: we got cooking up. And for the record, it's not
Speaker 1: nothing on that derogatory about masterp. We're not that. We're
Speaker 1: talking about token story because every story has two sides.
Speaker 1: We out of here. We appreciate you, token, I appreciate you, guys.
Speaker 1: Be safe, Thank you well. That concludes another episode of
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