1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,628 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,708 --> 00:00:28,748 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. Go Hey, welcome to Good Morning Football, 3 00:00:28,828 --> 00:00:31,548 Speaker 1: presented by NFL all Day. We are live in New 4 00:00:31,628 --> 00:00:34,348 Speaker 1: York City. It's Monday, August fifteenth. My name is Jamie Urdle, 5 00:00:34,548 --> 00:00:37,548 Speaker 1: alongside Kyle Brand, Peter Schrager, and a Super Bowl champion. 6 00:00:37,628 --> 00:00:42,948 Speaker 1: Birthday boy. It's over. It's over. It's over. Do you 7 00:00:42,948 --> 00:00:45,308 Speaker 1: feel like a season vet? Now? I feel a lot older, 8 00:00:45,428 --> 00:00:51,628 Speaker 1: you do, I'm sure. Alright, let's bring out that coaches tape. 9 00:00:51,668 --> 00:00:54,188 Speaker 1: That's the only way to watch preseason vikings. Raiders so 10 00:00:54,348 --> 00:00:56,348 Speaker 1: much Raiders in this preseason remember saw in the Hall 11 00:00:56,388 --> 00:00:59,428 Speaker 1: of Fame game again DeVante and the sideline channeler Jones 12 00:00:59,468 --> 00:01:02,868 Speaker 1: on the sideline twenty six to twenty. Kellen mon came 13 00:01:02,908 --> 00:01:05,108 Speaker 1: on for the Vikings. Look pretty sharp. No Kirk Cousins, 14 00:01:05,148 --> 00:01:07,148 Speaker 1: of course, but rate has won twenty twenty Jets when 15 00:01:07,188 --> 00:01:09,228 Speaker 1: you got yeah, there was another game play too. There 16 00:01:09,268 --> 00:01:11,308 Speaker 1: was a lot of other games well the Jets. In 17 00:01:11,388 --> 00:01:14,988 Speaker 1: the Eagles, Zach Wilson here gonna scramble, be able to 18 00:01:15,028 --> 00:01:16,908 Speaker 1: get out of the pocket, try to make a move 19 00:01:17,348 --> 00:01:20,908 Speaker 1: and comes up a little gimpy right here. Injured on 20 00:01:20,988 --> 00:01:24,388 Speaker 1: the play. Never liked to see. Hopefully, we know he'll 21 00:01:24,428 --> 00:01:27,228 Speaker 1: be all right and he'll bounce back. But the Jets 22 00:01:27,308 --> 00:01:30,788 Speaker 1: were able to outlast the Eagles. In the first preseason game. 23 00:01:31,228 --> 00:01:34,068 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson came up Andrew Jalen Hurts looked good and 24 00:01:34,148 --> 00:01:39,108 Speaker 1: his first preseason action. Oh so that game was Friday night. 25 00:01:39,308 --> 00:01:41,628 Speaker 1: We have heard obviously that Zach Wilson is now out 26 00:01:41,668 --> 00:01:43,988 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles preparing for a knee surgery, and head 27 00:01:43,988 --> 00:01:47,348 Speaker 1: coach Roberts Sala gave us an update about that yesterday. 28 00:01:47,948 --> 00:01:50,028 Speaker 1: Based on all the information that's been presented to us, 29 00:01:50,148 --> 00:01:52,908 Speaker 1: feel good. But again, you as I'm learning, you'd never know. 30 00:01:53,068 --> 00:01:55,028 Speaker 1: They'll know more once they get in there. Were optimistic, 31 00:01:55,068 --> 00:01:56,748 Speaker 1: but he's not out of the woods until they get 32 00:01:56,748 --> 00:02:00,188 Speaker 1: in there and make the decision. The surgery scheduled I 33 00:02:00,188 --> 00:02:05,708 Speaker 1: think Tuesday. Tuesday. That sequence of events to make two 34 00:02:05,788 --> 00:02:08,708 Speaker 1: cuts non contact, he starts to go down, then he 35 00:02:08,828 --> 00:02:11,388 Speaker 1: lowers his shoulders and his helmet. It was not what 36 00:02:11,628 --> 00:02:14,388 Speaker 1: we want to see out of your franchise quarterback in 37 00:02:14,428 --> 00:02:17,108 Speaker 1: the preseason Week one. Peter, what was your reactions to 38 00:02:17,148 --> 00:02:19,348 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson. Yeah, it's it's mine it's the Jets reaction. 39 00:02:19,428 --> 00:02:21,788 Speaker 1: It's just terrible timing for this, Like they he actually 40 00:02:21,868 --> 00:02:24,028 Speaker 1: needed this load of that's why he's on the field. 41 00:02:24,028 --> 00:02:26,188 Speaker 1: They actually need Zach Wilson to be playing with these 42 00:02:26,188 --> 00:02:28,468 Speaker 1: new teammates and get repetitions and to not go out 43 00:02:28,468 --> 00:02:29,748 Speaker 1: of bounds. I know a lot of Jets fans are 44 00:02:29,788 --> 00:02:31,588 Speaker 1: questioning that, what are we trying to do in the preseason. 45 00:02:31,788 --> 00:02:33,748 Speaker 1: It's a freak injury. It happens. He'll be going to 46 00:02:33,828 --> 00:02:37,588 Speaker 1: doctor Neil Elatrosh, who's the top orthopedic surgeon in the country. 47 00:02:37,588 --> 00:02:39,828 Speaker 1: Did Tom Brady's shoulder. He's done all sorts of things. 48 00:02:39,828 --> 00:02:42,028 Speaker 1: He'll be out there in Los Angeles getting that's actually ironic. 49 00:02:42,108 --> 00:02:45,708 Speaker 1: McKay Beckton's also at the same surgeon and there worked one. 50 00:02:45,748 --> 00:02:47,748 Speaker 1: It is a dark time and you look at this 51 00:02:47,868 --> 00:02:49,428 Speaker 1: injury over and over. Guys, we show this on a 52 00:02:49,468 --> 00:02:52,548 Speaker 1: Monday morning, like Jets fans who say why us? Why us? 53 00:02:53,228 --> 00:02:55,188 Speaker 1: But I'm not so sure this is as doom and 54 00:02:55,228 --> 00:02:57,188 Speaker 1: gloom as it was on Friday. I feel like that 55 00:02:57,228 --> 00:02:59,788 Speaker 1: there is hope that this was just the PCL or 56 00:02:59,828 --> 00:03:02,108 Speaker 1: a leigment and it's not the ACL, and that there's 57 00:03:02,108 --> 00:03:04,388 Speaker 1: a chance that Zach Wilson returns sooner rather than later. 58 00:03:05,388 --> 00:03:07,508 Speaker 1: So we absolutely hate to see this, and we're going 59 00:03:07,548 --> 00:03:09,468 Speaker 1: to find out more about his timeline. Peter is going 60 00:03:09,508 --> 00:03:11,388 Speaker 1: to be all over it. But what's the answer here? 61 00:03:11,508 --> 00:03:13,908 Speaker 1: What are the Jets consider? And is the answer Jimmy 62 00:03:13,948 --> 00:03:17,908 Speaker 1: garoppolo at this point, Peter, go ahead, jump in there. 63 00:03:18,028 --> 00:03:19,748 Speaker 1: Come on. I know it's easy to connect the dots. 64 00:03:19,788 --> 00:03:23,388 Speaker 1: You see Sala who was Jimmy's defensive coordinator. You see Michaelafloor, 65 00:03:23,628 --> 00:03:25,828 Speaker 1: who was one of Jimmy's offensive coaches. And if you 66 00:03:25,868 --> 00:03:28,628 Speaker 1: read Peter King's article this morning, Jimmy is not even 67 00:03:28,708 --> 00:03:31,188 Speaker 1: in the quarterbacks room right now in San Francisco, Like 68 00:03:31,228 --> 00:03:32,948 Speaker 1: he doesn't even he said, he's not even interacting with 69 00:03:32,988 --> 00:03:35,348 Speaker 1: Brian Greasy, the quarterbacks coach. He doesn't have a playbook, 70 00:03:35,388 --> 00:03:37,548 Speaker 1: He's completely separate from the team. He's just kind of 71 00:03:37,548 --> 00:03:40,068 Speaker 1: showing up, kind of throwing the ball himself, and then 72 00:03:40,148 --> 00:03:42,388 Speaker 1: you know, going home. It makes a lot of sense 73 00:03:42,428 --> 00:03:44,988 Speaker 1: except for the financials and the fact Jets really like 74 00:03:45,068 --> 00:03:47,508 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco. I know Jets fans don't want to hear that. No, 75 00:03:47,748 --> 00:03:49,108 Speaker 1: we don't even they don't And I know you don't. 76 00:03:49,548 --> 00:03:51,668 Speaker 1: I'll hear it. You want to hear jim I'll hear it. 77 00:03:51,668 --> 00:03:55,068 Speaker 1: I want to hear it. Financially, it's just such a 78 00:03:55,108 --> 00:03:58,108 Speaker 1: burden to take. Come on, Jimmy's gonna make twenty three 79 00:03:58,188 --> 00:04:01,748 Speaker 1: more million dollars the cap it. It just doesn't make sense, 80 00:04:02,068 --> 00:04:06,908 Speaker 1: especially if you have there's any expectation that Zach Wilson's 81 00:04:06,948 --> 00:04:09,628 Speaker 1: coming back. Flacco was Wilson's big brother in that room. 82 00:04:09,668 --> 00:04:11,868 Speaker 1: Flacco is the guy that has taken him through these 83 00:04:11,908 --> 00:04:14,748 Speaker 1: past sixteen months as the guy to be the veteran. 84 00:04:14,988 --> 00:04:17,348 Speaker 1: Like to throw Jimmy in the mix to maybe get 85 00:04:17,348 --> 00:04:21,068 Speaker 1: a few wins in September without necessarily having anything, It 86 00:04:21,148 --> 00:04:23,148 Speaker 1: just seems like too much, too soon, with too much 87 00:04:23,188 --> 00:04:25,428 Speaker 1: money involved. Now, if the Niners were to cut Jimmy 88 00:04:25,468 --> 00:04:29,028 Speaker 1: Garoppolo and he's at that base salary of whatever it is, 89 00:04:29,028 --> 00:04:31,228 Speaker 1: and maybe you consider it, but right now to trade 90 00:04:31,228 --> 00:04:33,908 Speaker 1: for Jimmy Garoppolo, I don't think it sounds very logical. 91 00:04:33,908 --> 00:04:37,108 Speaker 1: And if you listen to Robert Sala just a week 92 00:04:37,148 --> 00:04:39,668 Speaker 1: ago here he was talking about Joe Flacco pre injury 93 00:04:40,148 --> 00:04:42,948 Speaker 1: from Zach Wilson, he should be in my opinion, he 94 00:04:42,988 --> 00:04:46,748 Speaker 1: could start in this league. I believe that he's Sometimes 95 00:04:46,788 --> 00:04:49,548 Speaker 1: this league has a tendency to pigeonhole people or put 96 00:04:49,628 --> 00:04:53,028 Speaker 1: labels on people, and then their opportunities kind of get limited. 97 00:04:53,068 --> 00:04:55,948 Speaker 1: But Joe Flacco is a starting quarterback in this league. 98 00:04:56,228 --> 00:04:59,748 Speaker 1: He's really really talented. I'll add that the center Connor 99 00:04:59,788 --> 00:05:02,268 Speaker 1: McGovern was with Flacco in Denver. And then you also 100 00:05:02,268 --> 00:05:04,628 Speaker 1: have Rob Calabrisi, who's the quarterbacks, which he was them 101 00:05:04,628 --> 00:05:07,228 Speaker 1: in Denver, like Flack. All makes sense right now, as 102 00:05:07,308 --> 00:05:09,388 Speaker 1: much as it's pretty to connect the dots, but I 103 00:05:09,388 --> 00:05:12,708 Speaker 1: could be wrong. You know who the Jets open with too, Yeah, Ravens. 104 00:05:12,828 --> 00:05:15,228 Speaker 1: Yeah that's kind of cool. I don't I don't think 105 00:05:15,268 --> 00:05:17,668 Speaker 1: Flack was the answer. All due respect great pro and everything, 106 00:05:17,868 --> 00:05:20,108 Speaker 1: but like we as a league and a show and 107 00:05:20,148 --> 00:05:23,468 Speaker 1: as a society so badly want to find Jimmy Garoppolo home. 108 00:05:23,508 --> 00:05:26,028 Speaker 1: Like we're bending over backwards, this little orphan Jimmy here. Like, 109 00:05:26,068 --> 00:05:28,068 Speaker 1: I don't think this is the answer, reader, But that's 110 00:05:28,108 --> 00:05:30,548 Speaker 1: good because from everything I'm hearing about Zack Wilson is 111 00:05:30,548 --> 00:05:32,508 Speaker 1: that it's not severe. The way these things always happen 112 00:05:32,548 --> 00:05:34,908 Speaker 1: is you're watching the preseason. He goes down and all 113 00:05:34,948 --> 00:05:37,548 Speaker 1: the PhDs on Twitter as, Oh he's out there, he's done, 114 00:05:37,708 --> 00:05:40,268 Speaker 1: You've dropt somebody next year, like all the surgeons just 115 00:05:40,308 --> 00:05:42,108 Speaker 1: weigh in and then come to find out, Oh no, 116 00:05:42,668 --> 00:05:44,748 Speaker 1: maybe shoot, maybe is there for the opener? Maybe it's 117 00:05:44,748 --> 00:05:47,388 Speaker 1: week two. If it was the whole season, then we 118 00:05:47,428 --> 00:05:49,108 Speaker 1: got a different conversation then. If you want to bring 119 00:05:49,228 --> 00:05:51,748 Speaker 1: Jimmy and Jimmy and all he's done and all his talent, fine, 120 00:05:51,788 --> 00:05:54,028 Speaker 1: but no, I don't think so at all. I just 121 00:05:54,068 --> 00:05:56,788 Speaker 1: think this is like the unbelievable buzzkill for Jets fans 122 00:05:56,788 --> 00:05:58,468 Speaker 1: and for football fans, for all of us. I hate 123 00:05:58,468 --> 00:06:00,668 Speaker 1: this is anybody at all taken a bite on the 124 00:06:00,668 --> 00:06:02,588 Speaker 1: apple about what was he doing out there? Like Peter 125 00:06:02,628 --> 00:06:04,028 Speaker 1: just kind of threw it away like a lot of 126 00:06:04,068 --> 00:06:06,388 Speaker 1: Jet Yeah, I don't love it. I know they have 127 00:06:06,428 --> 00:06:08,748 Speaker 1: a couple joint practices coming up, and like there's people 128 00:06:08,748 --> 00:06:11,188 Speaker 1: who are draconian about this, like you know, like McVeagh 129 00:06:11,188 --> 00:06:12,668 Speaker 1: has said, like, as long as I'm the coach, Matt 130 00:06:12,668 --> 00:06:14,948 Speaker 1: Stafford will never play a preseason staff I don't like 131 00:06:15,028 --> 00:06:17,308 Speaker 1: it at all, especially with all the joint practices. But 132 00:06:17,628 --> 00:06:19,508 Speaker 1: the Garoppolo thing, we'll find us at home for him 133 00:06:19,548 --> 00:06:21,388 Speaker 1: sooner enough. I know it's a big initiative for everybody 134 00:06:21,388 --> 00:06:22,828 Speaker 1: in the world right now, but I don't think it's 135 00:06:22,868 --> 00:06:24,268 Speaker 1: with the Jets. What do you think, Jets? And that's 136 00:06:24,348 --> 00:06:26,828 Speaker 1: that's the question when it comes to the preseason is 137 00:06:26,868 --> 00:06:28,788 Speaker 1: it worth it? And I think for him, you hate 138 00:06:28,788 --> 00:06:31,428 Speaker 1: to see it because the buzz all off season about 139 00:06:31,428 --> 00:06:34,068 Speaker 1: how well he's looked, how he's answered the different media 140 00:06:34,108 --> 00:06:35,988 Speaker 1: things that have come up. He just looked like he 141 00:06:36,068 --> 00:06:37,748 Speaker 1: was hitting full swing. And like you just said, the 142 00:06:37,868 --> 00:06:41,388 Speaker 1: joint practices, those are valuable, valuable reps because in the 143 00:06:41,468 --> 00:06:45,028 Speaker 1: games you don't see much from the opposing defense. Those practices. 144 00:06:45,188 --> 00:06:47,908 Speaker 1: They're blitzing, they're throwing everything at you. They're kind to see. 145 00:06:47,948 --> 00:06:50,108 Speaker 1: Should they've been out there for a young player. Is 146 00:06:50,148 --> 00:06:51,828 Speaker 1: tough to say, Oh no, we're just gonna sit him 147 00:06:51,868 --> 00:06:54,588 Speaker 1: the entire the entire preseason. For Matthew Stafford, Yeah, what 148 00:06:54,588 --> 00:06:57,948 Speaker 1: do I need to see from Stafford's been you blame 149 00:06:58,028 --> 00:07:01,188 Speaker 1: the player? What is he doing? Instinct Like, it's easy 150 00:07:01,228 --> 00:07:02,828 Speaker 1: to say, all right, when I'll get in a preseason game, 151 00:07:02,868 --> 00:07:04,788 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it easy. But we all he said, hey, 152 00:07:04,788 --> 00:07:06,748 Speaker 1: when you're out there at games, a game When you're 153 00:07:06,748 --> 00:07:09,068 Speaker 1: playing that way, you're more liable to get hurt. It's 154 00:07:09,068 --> 00:07:11,148 Speaker 1: just like you kind of start. It's just a freak accident. 155 00:07:11,148 --> 00:07:12,988 Speaker 1: It's part of the game. And I think the best 156 00:07:12,988 --> 00:07:15,748 Speaker 1: thing is, like you said, he'll be back, so let's 157 00:07:15,748 --> 00:07:18,188 Speaker 1: not panic. You brought Joe Flaggle here not only to 158 00:07:18,268 --> 00:07:21,548 Speaker 1: be a mentor big brother to Zach Wilson, but in 159 00:07:21,588 --> 00:07:24,908 Speaker 1: a pinch, in moments like this, a former Super Bowl 160 00:07:25,028 --> 00:07:27,308 Speaker 1: MVP with the experience that he has. This is why 161 00:07:27,428 --> 00:07:29,628 Speaker 1: we brought you here to continue to lead the guys. 162 00:07:29,668 --> 00:07:31,548 Speaker 1: Those guys in the locker room are looking to flaccle. 163 00:07:31,868 --> 00:07:34,188 Speaker 1: They feel comfortable with him. He's been there the entire 164 00:07:34,228 --> 00:07:36,988 Speaker 1: time the last season. So hey, let's go Joe, lace 165 00:07:37,068 --> 00:07:39,948 Speaker 1: him up, go back, Let's get Baltimore, show him that 166 00:07:39,988 --> 00:07:41,828 Speaker 1: you're still a player. Yeah. The length of the time 167 00:07:41,828 --> 00:07:43,828 Speaker 1: of need, I think is the key here. But there's 168 00:07:43,868 --> 00:07:46,268 Speaker 1: this very trendy thing that's happening on TikTok right now 169 00:07:46,268 --> 00:07:49,828 Speaker 1: where people claim that the best thirty minute workout is 170 00:07:49,908 --> 00:07:52,548 Speaker 1: walking at three miles per hour at twelve percent, And 171 00:07:52,628 --> 00:07:56,228 Speaker 1: that's essentially what Zach Wilson has adopted, which really really 172 00:07:56,308 --> 00:07:58,548 Speaker 1: is awful for him. I hate this. Let's just add 173 00:07:58,628 --> 00:08:00,708 Speaker 1: up the twelve percent here, Okay, He's headed into a 174 00:08:00,788 --> 00:08:02,988 Speaker 1: second year. There is no more clean slate for him 175 00:08:02,988 --> 00:08:04,828 Speaker 1: as a rookie. There's already going to be the added 176 00:08:04,828 --> 00:08:07,308 Speaker 1: pressure of a second year critique. He's got the pressure 177 00:08:07,348 --> 00:08:10,508 Speaker 1: of four first round picks, the loss of McKay Beckton, 178 00:08:10,788 --> 00:08:13,748 Speaker 1: the AFC East is getting better the short term yet 179 00:08:13,788 --> 00:08:18,268 Speaker 1: extremely consequential injury. To me, that's a twelve percent incline 180 00:08:18,308 --> 00:08:20,748 Speaker 1: that this young man didn't need to be yet. This 181 00:08:20,828 --> 00:08:23,748 Speaker 1: was supposed to be a developmental team building. The Jets 182 00:08:23,748 --> 00:08:25,628 Speaker 1: are on the up and up kind of season, and 183 00:08:25,708 --> 00:08:28,348 Speaker 1: a situation like this for him, I just hate it. 184 00:08:28,348 --> 00:08:31,588 Speaker 1: It's heartbreaking. The point of being developmental is to be 185 00:08:31,668 --> 00:08:35,548 Speaker 1: out there with the players improving reps preseason week one, 186 00:08:35,708 --> 00:08:38,468 Speaker 1: starting week one, hitting the ground running, if you will. 187 00:08:38,588 --> 00:08:40,748 Speaker 1: But having Joe Flacco have to now take on the 188 00:08:40,788 --> 00:08:43,548 Speaker 1: rest of the preseason, it's just awful. For Zach Wilson, 189 00:08:43,548 --> 00:08:46,748 Speaker 1: I absolutely hate it. Unfortunately, maybe it will be for 190 00:08:46,748 --> 00:08:49,748 Speaker 1: the better of his get healthy fast the thirty minute 191 00:08:49,748 --> 00:08:52,468 Speaker 1: treadmill workout that he is on right now. But if, 192 00:08:53,068 --> 00:08:55,868 Speaker 1: like Kyle said, if the need was longer I'd be 193 00:08:55,988 --> 00:08:58,588 Speaker 1: more into Jimmy Garoppolo, but hopefully it really is two 194 00:08:58,628 --> 00:09:01,548 Speaker 1: to four weeks, and then Zach Wilson still is the guy. 195 00:09:01,548 --> 00:09:04,788 Speaker 1: How you played Joe Flacco in the preseason games forward, 196 00:09:05,388 --> 00:09:08,028 Speaker 1: I'm still on the Mic Whitehive. I think, no, Blacco 197 00:09:08,108 --> 00:09:10,388 Speaker 1: can't go down the way I read it too. And again, 198 00:09:10,468 --> 00:09:13,308 Speaker 1: we're not doctors here, but I read that once they 199 00:09:13,428 --> 00:09:15,788 Speaker 1: get in there on the surgery and they'll be able 200 00:09:15,828 --> 00:09:18,068 Speaker 1: to tell. So we're all sitting here doing a victory 201 00:09:18,108 --> 00:09:19,708 Speaker 1: dance because he's gonna be back in a few weeks. 202 00:09:19,868 --> 00:09:21,948 Speaker 1: The way I understood it was when they see it. 203 00:09:22,028 --> 00:09:23,908 Speaker 1: Actually it might not be a few weeks. So now 204 00:09:23,908 --> 00:09:26,548 Speaker 1: the Jets fans are all in this waiting period of 205 00:09:26,748 --> 00:09:29,188 Speaker 1: arthurscopic revelations about how long it's going to be. We 206 00:09:29,188 --> 00:09:31,388 Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe it's two months. I don't know. Yeah, 207 00:09:31,468 --> 00:09:33,748 Speaker 1: oh my god. It's just it sucks though the season. 208 00:09:33,828 --> 00:09:38,748 Speaker 1: Still it could be this Niners Packers, Trey Lance starting out. 209 00:09:38,788 --> 00:09:40,788 Speaker 1: Watch out here we go twenty eight to twenty one, 210 00:09:40,828 --> 00:09:43,388 Speaker 1: Niners win, if you care. The talking point here was 211 00:09:43,428 --> 00:09:47,228 Speaker 1: that Lance looked pretty good and Jordan Love had objectively 212 00:09:47,268 --> 00:09:49,148 Speaker 1: a really rough outing here's what his head coach, Matt 213 00:09:49,188 --> 00:09:52,388 Speaker 1: McClure had to say about the sort of quarterback in 214 00:09:52,468 --> 00:09:54,908 Speaker 1: Waiting's performance in the preseason with three picks go ahead. 215 00:09:56,148 --> 00:09:59,068 Speaker 1: I know he's gonna want a couple of the throws 216 00:09:59,068 --> 00:10:01,068 Speaker 1: back and certainly some of the reads. But it's never 217 00:10:01,148 --> 00:10:03,428 Speaker 1: perfect for a quarterback. But I thought, by and large, 218 00:10:03,468 --> 00:10:06,588 Speaker 1: just watching the things, like how the operation was, it 219 00:10:06,668 --> 00:10:09,388 Speaker 1: was a smooth operation. I thought he got us in 220 00:10:09,388 --> 00:10:12,708 Speaker 1: and out of the huddle, extremely crisp and with urgency. 221 00:10:12,868 --> 00:10:15,148 Speaker 1: Thought he made some off scheduled plays. He showed some 222 00:10:15,308 --> 00:10:17,788 Speaker 1: nice athleticism on a couple of those runs as well, 223 00:10:17,828 --> 00:10:19,988 Speaker 1: and so there was a lot of good good things 224 00:10:20,028 --> 00:10:23,868 Speaker 1: out there from Jordan. It's never perfect for a quarterback, 225 00:10:24,028 --> 00:10:26,428 Speaker 1: but you kind of have the perfect quarterback right now. 226 00:10:26,628 --> 00:10:29,908 Speaker 1: And the concern is that at some point Aaron Rodgers 227 00:10:29,908 --> 00:10:31,548 Speaker 1: isn't going to be there, and who is the guy 228 00:10:31,588 --> 00:10:34,548 Speaker 1: after Aaron Rodgers? So what is our level of concern 229 00:10:34,628 --> 00:10:37,028 Speaker 1: for Jordan loves performance? I'm not sure what we wanted. 230 00:10:37,148 --> 00:10:39,548 Speaker 1: If he went out and throw five touchdown passes would 231 00:10:39,628 --> 00:10:41,748 Speaker 1: be celebrating today. It was still a preseason game against 232 00:10:41,788 --> 00:10:43,948 Speaker 1: the Niners. Number threes and a lot of the case 233 00:10:44,148 --> 00:10:46,828 Speaker 1: Love was out there with players that are not starters, 234 00:10:46,828 --> 00:10:49,788 Speaker 1: players that are still learning the system, rookies, undrafted players. 235 00:10:49,788 --> 00:10:52,388 Speaker 1: So I don't take anything from this game. I know 236 00:10:52,428 --> 00:10:55,708 Speaker 1: that sounds like I'm dismissing the importance of preseason, but 237 00:10:55,788 --> 00:10:57,948 Speaker 1: I honestly it does nothing for me. I only care 238 00:10:57,988 --> 00:11:00,388 Speaker 1: about practices again and playing with the actual players who 239 00:11:00,388 --> 00:11:02,348 Speaker 1: are going down the field in the heat of action. 240 00:11:02,388 --> 00:11:05,428 Speaker 1: He's actually had more regular season snaps than preseason snaps. 241 00:11:05,468 --> 00:11:06,868 Speaker 1: I think at this point in his career, that's how 242 00:11:06,868 --> 00:11:08,988 Speaker 1: little he's played. I thought he looked good in these 243 00:11:08,988 --> 00:11:10,668 Speaker 1: two touchdown pass is that he had. He had a 244 00:11:10,708 --> 00:11:13,148 Speaker 1: couple of hour nice and then the interceptions for Fluke things. 245 00:11:13,148 --> 00:11:17,188 Speaker 1: But like I don't touch baby in touchdown, Like I 246 00:11:17,188 --> 00:11:18,868 Speaker 1: don't take too much out of this thing. I was 247 00:11:18,868 --> 00:11:20,948 Speaker 1: curious to see how he'd play, but he didn't light 248 00:11:20,948 --> 00:11:22,628 Speaker 1: it up. He certainly didn't make us say you have 249 00:11:22,668 --> 00:11:24,588 Speaker 1: to cut him or he's not the guy. It practice 250 00:11:24,588 --> 00:11:26,628 Speaker 1: what matters, and I think Rogers afterwards said the same, 251 00:11:26,748 --> 00:11:29,308 Speaker 1: as long as he's mastering the system, like we're feeling better, 252 00:11:29,308 --> 00:11:31,028 Speaker 1: and I think he's allowed further long he is now 253 00:11:31,068 --> 00:11:32,708 Speaker 1: than he was last year. At this time, my level 254 00:11:32,708 --> 00:11:35,268 Speaker 1: of concern is low. I mean, yes, he threw three interceptions. 255 00:11:35,268 --> 00:11:37,948 Speaker 1: If all you look at is a stat sheet, you're like, Wow, 256 00:11:38,108 --> 00:11:40,868 Speaker 1: two touchdowns with three interceptions, and then you turn the 257 00:11:40,908 --> 00:11:43,228 Speaker 1: film on and you look out. The first one bounces 258 00:11:43,308 --> 00:11:45,868 Speaker 1: off somebody's hands, straight up in the air, and the 259 00:11:45,908 --> 00:11:48,388 Speaker 1: next one Romeo Dobbs has the ball and the dB 260 00:11:48,548 --> 00:11:50,708 Speaker 1: takes it from him. Yes, that last one good played 261 00:11:50,748 --> 00:11:52,828 Speaker 1: by the dB. He's forcing the ball under a little 262 00:11:52,828 --> 00:11:54,868 Speaker 1: bit trying to make a play. But two out of 263 00:11:54,908 --> 00:11:57,668 Speaker 1: the three interceptions should have been caught by the receiver, 264 00:11:57,788 --> 00:11:59,948 Speaker 1: so I'm not going to panic. He had a really 265 00:12:00,028 --> 00:12:03,388 Speaker 1: nice touchdown pass after the three interceptions on a back 266 00:12:03,428 --> 00:12:06,068 Speaker 1: shoulder throw, which was impressive. You want to see a 267 00:12:06,068 --> 00:12:09,148 Speaker 1: guy rebound. No matter who your quarterback is, you're not 268 00:12:09,188 --> 00:12:11,348 Speaker 1: going to go out there and make every single throw 269 00:12:11,668 --> 00:12:14,228 Speaker 1: in a game. There's gonna be some adversity, there's gonna 270 00:12:14,268 --> 00:12:16,948 Speaker 1: be some bad plays, and he responded with it. So 271 00:12:17,028 --> 00:12:20,428 Speaker 1: for me, that was impressive. Back shoulder right here, scores 272 00:12:20,468 --> 00:12:23,188 Speaker 1: a touchdown lay in the second quarter to go into 273 00:12:23,188 --> 00:12:25,228 Speaker 1: the half, Like, that's what you want to see a guy, 274 00:12:25,348 --> 00:12:27,788 Speaker 1: especially a younger guy. Who hasn't played a lot. There's 275 00:12:27,828 --> 00:12:29,948 Speaker 1: so many question marks about him. Is he the guys? 276 00:12:29,988 --> 00:12:31,948 Speaker 1: He not the guy He goes out there to throw 277 00:12:31,988 --> 00:12:34,668 Speaker 1: three interceptions and come back and responds with a touchdown 278 00:12:34,708 --> 00:12:36,948 Speaker 1: to end his day. Guys, what do you want it 279 00:12:36,988 --> 00:12:38,708 Speaker 1: to be? Do you want it to mean something? Or 280 00:12:38,748 --> 00:12:40,628 Speaker 1: do you not? Because if we want, if we want 281 00:12:40,668 --> 00:12:42,988 Speaker 1: to say tree Lance like, wow, look at what he 282 00:12:43,028 --> 00:12:45,548 Speaker 1: showed us in preseason, then you have to say, Kyla, 283 00:12:45,668 --> 00:12:47,948 Speaker 1: look at what he showed us in preseason. You can't 284 00:12:48,108 --> 00:12:50,148 Speaker 1: talk out of both sides of your mouth like meaningful 285 00:12:50,188 --> 00:12:53,788 Speaker 1: snaps in game action regardless of who is in there matters. Now, 286 00:12:53,828 --> 00:12:56,628 Speaker 1: what we glean from this performance remains to be seen 287 00:12:56,668 --> 00:12:58,748 Speaker 1: in terms of the treatory of his career. But what 288 00:12:58,788 --> 00:13:01,268 Speaker 1: I would love to stop doing is drawing this line. 289 00:13:01,308 --> 00:13:03,908 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, I've essentially talking to you right now. Please 290 00:13:03,988 --> 00:13:07,268 Speaker 1: do your backup quarterbacks and favors and stop presenting the 291 00:13:07,268 --> 00:13:10,348 Speaker 1: timeline to us that you came in for Brett Farr, 292 00:13:10,428 --> 00:13:13,788 Speaker 1: because now you're expecting your backup quarterback to do what 293 00:13:13,908 --> 00:13:16,548 Speaker 1: you did when you came in for Brett Farr again. 294 00:13:16,588 --> 00:13:20,148 Speaker 1: To review this timeline, this projection, if it tells us anything, 295 00:13:20,348 --> 00:13:22,908 Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers said late last week that, well, when 296 00:13:23,028 --> 00:13:25,388 Speaker 1: I came in for Brett, this is how it happened, X, 297 00:13:25,508 --> 00:13:28,548 Speaker 1: Y and Z. You're telling us that this young man, 298 00:13:28,628 --> 00:13:31,588 Speaker 1: Jordan Love is going to be starting for you next season. 299 00:13:31,708 --> 00:13:34,508 Speaker 1: I know it's not accurate, but it's essentially you're making 300 00:13:34,548 --> 00:13:37,948 Speaker 1: our brains go that way. You're making us expect him 301 00:13:37,988 --> 00:13:41,268 Speaker 1: to play this way in a preseason game. Inherently, he's 302 00:13:41,308 --> 00:13:44,228 Speaker 1: gonna let us down because he's not you. So everybody 303 00:13:44,308 --> 00:13:47,308 Speaker 1: to treat Love as his own quarterback and let him 304 00:13:47,348 --> 00:13:50,588 Speaker 1: grow into his own. This parallel between the two of 305 00:13:50,628 --> 00:13:52,268 Speaker 1: them is really driving me crazy. I'm with you. I 306 00:13:52,348 --> 00:13:54,668 Speaker 1: hate the parallel. And yeah, funny Rogers used to hate 307 00:13:54,708 --> 00:13:56,308 Speaker 1: the parallel too. Yeah. I think he's come along and 308 00:13:56,348 --> 00:13:58,868 Speaker 1: he's trying to maybe support the guy, But I mean 309 00:13:58,868 --> 00:14:01,268 Speaker 1: they're wildly different. Up to and including any time we 310 00:14:01,348 --> 00:14:03,228 Speaker 1: got glimpses of Rogers before he was the starter. He 311 00:14:03,268 --> 00:14:06,068 Speaker 1: didn't just look fine, he looked brilliant. Ye, that guy 312 00:14:06,108 --> 00:14:08,268 Speaker 1: can play exactly. With due respect to some of the 313 00:14:08,348 --> 00:14:10,828 Speaker 1: quarterbacks who are playing this weekend, the Jared Stidhams and 314 00:14:10,868 --> 00:14:13,828 Speaker 1: the Trevor Simeon types. I don't think that's terribly compelling, 315 00:14:13,868 --> 00:14:15,188 Speaker 1: but I actually I do think the Jordan Love one 316 00:14:15,268 --> 00:14:17,388 Speaker 1: is because like those interceptions we just showed, we're going 317 00:14:17,468 --> 00:14:19,508 Speaker 1: to be showing them next spring on this network. We're 318 00:14:19,508 --> 00:14:21,828 Speaker 1: gonna be examining them. We're gonna be running this highlight 319 00:14:21,868 --> 00:14:24,948 Speaker 1: because again hashtag god willing, Jordan Love does not play 320 00:14:24,988 --> 00:14:26,988 Speaker 1: a single snap this regular season. I hope he never 321 00:14:27,028 --> 00:14:29,828 Speaker 1: sees the field, which means this is what we got 322 00:14:29,868 --> 00:14:32,948 Speaker 1: to go on, say what his fault? Not his fault, 323 00:14:32,948 --> 00:14:36,428 Speaker 1: this is his game tape with which the Packers ostensibly 324 00:14:36,468 --> 00:14:39,188 Speaker 1: could be deciding their entire future based on games like this, 325 00:14:39,268 --> 00:14:41,788 Speaker 1: because sure the practice stuff is matters, of course, but 326 00:14:41,908 --> 00:14:43,748 Speaker 1: when you put him out there, how does he do 327 00:14:43,788 --> 00:14:45,548 Speaker 1: in the big lights? We saw him against the Chiefs 328 00:14:45,548 --> 00:14:47,828 Speaker 1: not pretty in the preseason, probably the only time we'll 329 00:14:47,828 --> 00:14:51,228 Speaker 1: see him this year, not great. What do we always say, 330 00:14:51,428 --> 00:14:53,828 Speaker 1: does the guy look the part or not? Ye, Malik 331 00:14:53,868 --> 00:14:56,068 Speaker 1: Willis looks the part. I liked it. He looked a part. 332 00:14:56,268 --> 00:14:58,828 Speaker 1: Does Jordan Love look the part of that's the guy? 333 00:14:59,148 --> 00:15:01,108 Speaker 1: Not yet? And I think it matters because we may 334 00:15:01,108 --> 00:15:02,868 Speaker 1: never see him poof a couple more weeks and then 335 00:15:02,908 --> 00:15:04,228 Speaker 1: we see him in ten months. That's it. I think 336 00:15:04,228 --> 00:15:05,628 Speaker 1: it's big deal. And we're going to touch on some 337 00:15:05,708 --> 00:15:07,628 Speaker 1: rooky quarterbacks later in the show. And I think all 338 00:15:07,668 --> 00:15:09,428 Speaker 1: of us pick guys that we thought looked the part, 339 00:15:09,868 --> 00:15:12,228 Speaker 1: and none of us picked Jordan Love coming up. The 340 00:15:12,308 --> 00:15:16,188 Speaker 1: rookies balled out for the weekend were our favorite. It's next, 341 00:15:16,508 --> 00:15:32,028 Speaker 1: let's go, guys. We're talking about how you were watching 342 00:15:32,068 --> 00:15:34,588 Speaker 1: your preseason games this weekend. Kyle, you were in LA, right, 343 00:15:34,628 --> 00:15:37,188 Speaker 1: How how did you ingest all your football? This? So 344 00:15:37,268 --> 00:15:38,948 Speaker 1: glad you asked, because I wanted to watch the New 345 00:15:39,028 --> 00:15:40,868 Speaker 1: York area stuff and I'm in LA. How can I 346 00:15:40,908 --> 00:15:46,748 Speaker 1: have watched the nice? I just pull it up right, simple, easy, 347 00:15:47,068 --> 00:15:49,268 Speaker 1: loved it, saw it all, had a great weekend. Great 348 00:15:49,268 --> 00:15:51,748 Speaker 1: to be back with you guys. And Peter give us 349 00:15:51,748 --> 00:15:54,908 Speaker 1: some sweet, sweet Steelers Seahawks action and this was fun 350 00:15:54,988 --> 00:15:57,428 Speaker 1: for Steelers fans. Can he pick it out there? Same 351 00:15:57,468 --> 00:16:00,908 Speaker 1: stadium he played in college? Of course? Twentieth overall pick 352 00:16:01,748 --> 00:16:04,068 Speaker 1: h and we get there, Mitchael Turbisky. Who's gonna get 353 00:16:04,068 --> 00:16:07,268 Speaker 1: the star for the Steelers? They say it it's a battle, 354 00:16:07,268 --> 00:16:11,748 Speaker 1: but Erbisky's expecting me a starter. Who's that Jason is Gonner, 355 00:16:11,868 --> 00:16:14,628 Speaker 1: the former Patriot has founder and therest we see Mason Rudolph. 356 00:16:14,628 --> 00:16:18,188 Speaker 1: Like a lot of quarterbacks here, Pickett would finish thirteen 357 00:16:18,468 --> 00:16:24,348 Speaker 1: of fifteen for ninety five yards and two tunnies. Unbelievable 358 00:16:24,428 --> 00:16:28,348 Speaker 1: debut as far as preseasons go. Gino Smith played well 359 00:16:28,388 --> 00:16:31,708 Speaker 1: for the Seahawks as well. Steelers win thirty two to 360 00:16:31,708 --> 00:16:35,668 Speaker 1: twenty five, and it is all Kenny Pickett time Pittsburgh. 361 00:16:35,668 --> 00:16:37,548 Speaker 1: And it's a little bit time for George Pickens. Two 362 00:16:37,668 --> 00:16:41,428 Speaker 1: forty three yards on three catches and he gathered in 363 00:16:41,428 --> 00:16:43,708 Speaker 1: a touchdown. As you saw the excitement there. Four Pickett 364 00:16:43,868 --> 00:16:47,908 Speaker 1: was due. So that is preseason week one and the 365 00:16:47,948 --> 00:16:51,308 Speaker 1: potential for this offense. It looks dynamite. It does. It 366 00:16:51,348 --> 00:16:53,668 Speaker 1: does so, But are we overlooking it in terms of 367 00:16:53,708 --> 00:16:55,748 Speaker 1: the potential because we've been talking a lot of Steelers, 368 00:16:55,748 --> 00:16:58,188 Speaker 1: but the offense in particular, have we overlooked it? I 369 00:16:58,308 --> 00:17:01,348 Speaker 1: definitely have. Oh, I've been talking about the defense. We 370 00:17:01,428 --> 00:17:03,708 Speaker 1: had Cam Hey, we're all we talked about what we 371 00:17:03,708 --> 00:17:07,068 Speaker 1: talked about his Patrick, We talked about which Trubisky are 372 00:17:07,108 --> 00:17:10,108 Speaker 1: we gonna get? Is it Kenny pickt Mason Rudolph, and 373 00:17:10,188 --> 00:17:12,908 Speaker 1: we haven't really focused on if this stealer's offense can 374 00:17:12,948 --> 00:17:16,148 Speaker 1: actually be really good. Pickens looked to be the real deal, 375 00:17:16,228 --> 00:17:18,828 Speaker 1: not only the touchdown, caught one on the sideline, getting 376 00:17:18,828 --> 00:17:21,668 Speaker 1: his feet right in just made plays. Anthony McFarland was 377 00:17:21,708 --> 00:17:24,988 Speaker 1: fun to wash. For mecfarlane. Oh, obviously we know the 378 00:17:25,108 --> 00:17:28,308 Speaker 1: Naja Harris show is what's gonna be on the full screen. 379 00:17:28,428 --> 00:17:31,028 Speaker 1: But as much as they want to run Naja Harris, 380 00:17:31,028 --> 00:17:33,588 Speaker 1: he's going to need a break. And McFarland was just 381 00:17:34,108 --> 00:17:37,068 Speaker 1: the speed, his ability to get in break tackles, being 382 00:17:37,108 --> 00:17:38,868 Speaker 1: able to make something out of nothing. You see him 383 00:17:38,868 --> 00:17:42,068 Speaker 1: cutting back. It was really enjoyable. So for me, I 384 00:17:42,108 --> 00:17:44,988 Speaker 1: think I was kind of focused more on the stealers. Oh, 385 00:17:45,068 --> 00:17:46,908 Speaker 1: they're not gonna be as bad as they kind of look, 386 00:17:47,268 --> 00:17:49,228 Speaker 1: and maybe they can be a lot more than we think. 387 00:17:49,228 --> 00:17:51,868 Speaker 1: We talked about Gunner's touchdown, the gun Show had a 388 00:17:51,868 --> 00:17:54,068 Speaker 1: few nice receptions in the game as well. So this 389 00:17:54,188 --> 00:17:57,228 Speaker 1: steals offense if the quarterbacks can play well. And Mitchell 390 00:17:57,228 --> 00:18:00,548 Speaker 1: Trubisky looked well in his first game, first preseason action 391 00:18:01,068 --> 00:18:02,628 Speaker 1: and Kenny Picktt, I mean you saw the way the 392 00:18:02,708 --> 00:18:05,748 Speaker 1: fans reacted. So those two guys we may be able 393 00:18:05,748 --> 00:18:07,628 Speaker 1: to get a lot more than I was thinking. I'll 394 00:18:07,668 --> 00:18:09,748 Speaker 1: just speak for myself. You guys have kind of been 395 00:18:09,788 --> 00:18:12,348 Speaker 1: on the Mike Tomlin train. I was kind of doubting them, 396 00:18:12,348 --> 00:18:14,628 Speaker 1: but the offense looked a lot better last night. Well, 397 00:18:14,668 --> 00:18:16,948 Speaker 1: it's fair to doubt it, but like I'm wondering if 398 00:18:17,148 --> 00:18:20,148 Speaker 1: it's not additioned by subtraction, but was Roethlisberger maybe holding 399 00:18:20,188 --> 00:18:21,468 Speaker 1: them back from some of the things they can do 400 00:18:21,628 --> 00:18:24,708 Speaker 1: because these are both mobile quarterbacks in Pickett and Trubisky. 401 00:18:24,788 --> 00:18:26,548 Speaker 1: They both can do things out of the pocket, and 402 00:18:26,828 --> 00:18:29,988 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger gonna have George Pickens did too soon to like 403 00:18:30,628 --> 00:18:34,508 Speaker 1: DK Metcalf. Eight teams passed on DK Metcalf, and right 404 00:18:34,548 --> 00:18:37,508 Speaker 1: out of the gate as a rookie, DK Metcalf was spectacular, 405 00:18:37,548 --> 00:18:39,788 Speaker 1: and I was like, how do you a draft Andy 406 00:18:39,868 --> 00:18:42,948 Speaker 1: Isabella over DK Metcalf? And what are these scouts seeing 407 00:18:43,188 --> 00:18:46,108 Speaker 1: eight different teams passed on Metcalf and he has been 408 00:18:46,148 --> 00:18:48,588 Speaker 1: as good as we thought he might be. Pickens goes 409 00:18:48,908 --> 00:18:51,468 Speaker 1: so late in this draft for wide receivers. He's the 410 00:18:51,588 --> 00:18:54,268 Speaker 1: second round pick, fifty fourth overall. I'm wondering if this 411 00:18:54,348 --> 00:18:56,188 Speaker 1: is gonna be like the Brady six. If we're gonna 412 00:18:56,228 --> 00:18:58,228 Speaker 1: be looking at this and being like, hey, you took 413 00:18:58,268 --> 00:19:01,628 Speaker 1: Taekwon Thornton the Patriots over George Pickens took a speed 414 00:19:01,628 --> 00:19:04,148 Speaker 1: start a Baylor. Hey, what are we doing taking Chris 415 00:19:04,588 --> 00:19:07,108 Speaker 1: Watson at a North Dakota State when George Pickens was there, 416 00:19:07,348 --> 00:19:10,348 Speaker 1: Because here's a guy who dominated at Georgia. He was 417 00:19:10,548 --> 00:19:14,028 Speaker 1: awesome for the Bulldogs and there was injury concerns, some 418 00:19:14,508 --> 00:19:17,108 Speaker 1: teams had had character red flags on him. Whatever it was, 419 00:19:17,588 --> 00:19:20,068 Speaker 1: but you see the sheer talent and what you're hearing 420 00:19:20,108 --> 00:19:22,028 Speaker 1: in training games. It wasn't just like a one game thing. 421 00:19:22,588 --> 00:19:25,508 Speaker 1: Ten days into training camp. I said it on Thursday 422 00:19:25,508 --> 00:19:28,108 Speaker 1: when I stood at that board, there's no player getting 423 00:19:28,148 --> 00:19:32,188 Speaker 1: better and bigger buzz than George Pickins. So you lose juju. 424 00:19:32,268 --> 00:19:35,068 Speaker 1: But you've got Claypool. Of course, you've got Deonte Johnson. 425 00:19:35,148 --> 00:19:38,068 Speaker 1: Now you add in this guy like I don't know, Like, 426 00:19:38,668 --> 00:19:40,948 Speaker 1: did the Steelers just get themselves a star at wide 427 00:19:40,948 --> 00:19:42,788 Speaker 1: receiver and do so in the second round the fifty 428 00:19:42,788 --> 00:19:46,628 Speaker 1: fourth pick? Yeah? And how about a connection called Pickett 429 00:19:46,668 --> 00:19:48,708 Speaker 1: to Pickens? Do they have stars? It sounds pretty nice 430 00:19:48,748 --> 00:19:50,908 Speaker 1: though good allow me to overreact because someone has to 431 00:19:50,948 --> 00:19:53,468 Speaker 1: do it. I like that, Kenny Pickett. I've always said 432 00:19:53,868 --> 00:19:56,588 Speaker 1: the Steelers don't shake. They're the bedrock foreign tranchise. They 433 00:19:56,628 --> 00:19:58,628 Speaker 1: like you never met against them. They're always winning. The 434 00:19:58,748 --> 00:20:01,908 Speaker 1: one thing that can really mess up a bedrock franchise 435 00:20:02,308 --> 00:20:05,148 Speaker 1: is the quarterback controversy, the uncertainty. And let's just bear 436 00:20:05,188 --> 00:20:07,268 Speaker 1: this out. So Mitch got the job done last night. 437 00:20:07,428 --> 00:20:10,708 Speaker 1: Mitch knows how to be a starting quarterback. We also 438 00:20:10,788 --> 00:20:12,588 Speaker 1: know that Mitch is Mitch and he is not going 439 00:20:12,628 --> 00:20:14,868 Speaker 1: to turn into John Elway. It's not going to happen. 440 00:20:15,428 --> 00:20:18,588 Speaker 1: So if Pickett continues to wow, and he continues to 441 00:20:18,628 --> 00:20:20,708 Speaker 1: get the fans going and continues to look the part, 442 00:20:21,028 --> 00:20:23,308 Speaker 1: what if the Steelers slump out of the gates. What 443 00:20:23,428 --> 00:20:25,948 Speaker 1: if they come out to one and two. Listen, it's 444 00:20:25,988 --> 00:20:28,508 Speaker 1: Bengals Patriots, and then Brown's on national television to start 445 00:20:28,548 --> 00:20:31,348 Speaker 1: the season. Mitch is not playing well. They're one and two, 446 00:20:31,388 --> 00:20:33,508 Speaker 1: they're owing two, and they're going to the National Is 447 00:20:33,508 --> 00:20:35,908 Speaker 1: there any is that the winds start to blow? Then 448 00:20:35,948 --> 00:20:38,548 Speaker 1: for Kenny Pickett, because Mitch Trubisky is not a guy here, 449 00:20:38,548 --> 00:20:40,268 Speaker 1: You're like, nope, nope, no, I'm not going to hear it. 450 00:20:40,268 --> 00:20:42,388 Speaker 1: Mitch is our guy. He's not. You have no history 451 00:20:42,388 --> 00:20:44,748 Speaker 1: with him, you have no long term commitment to him. 452 00:20:44,908 --> 00:20:46,308 Speaker 1: He is a guy who's a pro who he brought 453 00:20:46,348 --> 00:20:48,428 Speaker 1: in to be the starter. But boom. I don't think 454 00:20:48,468 --> 00:20:51,028 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin is afraid of anything. If should they stumble 455 00:20:51,268 --> 00:20:53,348 Speaker 1: and they're not scoring and the defense is playing great, 456 00:20:53,348 --> 00:20:55,428 Speaker 1: but they cannot win these games, watch out for a 457 00:20:55,468 --> 00:20:57,708 Speaker 1: picket thing that could be a thing quickly, very quick. 458 00:20:57,708 --> 00:21:00,268 Speaker 1: Do you remember when Trubisky was drafted second overall Mike 459 00:21:00,348 --> 00:21:03,108 Speaker 1: Lennon min Is this not the same thing? Yeah, But 460 00:21:03,108 --> 00:21:05,348 Speaker 1: what's different than that is that John Fox was the 461 00:21:05,348 --> 00:21:06,708 Speaker 1: coach of the Bears that year, and he was in 462 00:21:06,788 --> 00:21:09,068 Speaker 1: his last year. This is they have a don as 463 00:21:09,108 --> 00:21:11,908 Speaker 1: a head coach who will do nothing that he's not 464 00:21:11,988 --> 00:21:13,828 Speaker 1: in favor of, who will just not couch out of 465 00:21:13,908 --> 00:21:16,388 Speaker 1: media or anything. If Tomlin says, get him out, get 466 00:21:16,468 --> 00:21:18,548 Speaker 1: him out. That was the problem with your Bisky back then? 467 00:21:18,668 --> 00:21:21,348 Speaker 1: Is that John Fox? I think if he comes out 468 00:21:21,388 --> 00:21:22,988 Speaker 1: rough like I think, it's a quick cook I do. 469 00:21:23,388 --> 00:21:25,988 Speaker 1: This comes back to my newfound equation that I've adopted, 470 00:21:25,988 --> 00:21:30,108 Speaker 1: which is a truly powerful team has that headline paragraph worthy, 471 00:21:30,308 --> 00:21:33,148 Speaker 1: article worthy front page worthy unit, and then the other 472 00:21:33,188 --> 00:21:35,708 Speaker 1: one has to hold their own. Just be solid. You've 473 00:21:35,748 --> 00:21:37,708 Speaker 1: been saying it. We've been talking about the Steelers defense 474 00:21:37,788 --> 00:21:40,188 Speaker 1: up and down, left and right, rightfully, So let's write 475 00:21:40,188 --> 00:21:42,548 Speaker 1: every future we possibly can about the Steelers defense. They 476 00:21:42,628 --> 00:21:45,388 Speaker 1: deserve it. But this offense, all you have to do 477 00:21:45,788 --> 00:21:48,428 Speaker 1: is be solid, grow together, hold your own on your 478 00:21:48,468 --> 00:21:51,508 Speaker 1: side of all, and this team could be really, really good. Listen, 479 00:21:51,508 --> 00:21:55,428 Speaker 1: we've been painting the Steelers with carpelasch material because Mike 480 00:21:55,428 --> 00:21:57,988 Speaker 1: Tomlin always makes the right decision. He is an excellent 481 00:21:57,988 --> 00:22:00,868 Speaker 1: head coach for a reason. This quarterback situation. On a 482 00:22:00,908 --> 00:22:02,708 Speaker 1: lot of other teams, we would be throwing up red 483 00:22:02,708 --> 00:22:04,948 Speaker 1: flags left and right. But the fact that Tomlin we 484 00:22:04,988 --> 00:22:07,468 Speaker 1: know we'll get them there eventually. I think they have 485 00:22:07,548 --> 00:22:10,628 Speaker 1: some wiggle room here to find the right guy, whoever 486 00:22:10,668 --> 00:22:13,228 Speaker 1: it is. But I think this team could be sneaky good. 487 00:22:13,228 --> 00:22:14,788 Speaker 1: Sneaky is not the word that should be ever applied 488 00:22:14,788 --> 00:22:16,548 Speaker 1: to the Steelers. I take that's fine, though. I think 489 00:22:16,548 --> 00:22:18,548 Speaker 1: when the rubber meets the road in a few weeks, 490 00:22:18,588 --> 00:22:21,068 Speaker 1: everyone will pick their division winners and their wildcard teams, 491 00:22:21,068 --> 00:22:23,628 Speaker 1: including us. Who is actually gonna say Pittsburgh's making the 492 00:22:23,628 --> 00:22:25,748 Speaker 1: playoffs or not. I don't know if they are. When 493 00:22:25,788 --> 00:22:28,148 Speaker 1: you look and you see the Ravens in Cincinnati and whatever, 494 00:22:28,508 --> 00:22:30,908 Speaker 1: the FC is so good. How much respect do you 495 00:22:30,908 --> 00:22:32,468 Speaker 1: have for Tomlin and what they got going that you're 496 00:22:32,508 --> 00:22:35,068 Speaker 1: saying even in this year's AFC, I'm still thinking they're 497 00:22:35,068 --> 00:22:37,148 Speaker 1: conmit in the playoffs. I don't think they're gonna do it. Yeah, 498 00:22:37,188 --> 00:22:39,108 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think many people. All right, 499 00:22:39,148 --> 00:22:41,708 Speaker 1: those four rookie quarterbacks had the NFL's head on a 500 00:22:41,748 --> 00:22:44,788 Speaker 1: swivel in Week one of the preseason, but rookies weren't 501 00:22:44,788 --> 00:22:48,588 Speaker 1: the only signal callers turning heads. Peter which quarterback caught 502 00:22:48,668 --> 00:22:51,348 Speaker 1: our eye? You know, Kellen Mound had a really interesting 503 00:22:51,428 --> 00:22:53,588 Speaker 1: rookie season. I say interesting, but it could also be 504 00:22:53,708 --> 00:22:56,508 Speaker 1: a potentially set back of the season his first year. 505 00:22:56,548 --> 00:22:59,028 Speaker 1: Mike Zimber was open about how he didn't think he 506 00:22:59,068 --> 00:23:00,548 Speaker 1: was ready to get on the field Texas A and 507 00:23:00,628 --> 00:23:02,468 Speaker 1: M rookie last year. I didn't see the field and 508 00:23:02,588 --> 00:23:07,828 Speaker 1: Sean Mannion was the second job. No problem. Sean Manyon 509 00:23:07,868 --> 00:23:09,868 Speaker 1: was out there yesterday and then Kellen Mond comes in 510 00:23:09,988 --> 00:23:12,948 Speaker 1: and played better than Sean man kelln man looked apart. 511 00:23:13,588 --> 00:23:15,668 Speaker 1: Had some rough starts in this one and then all 512 00:23:15,668 --> 00:23:17,588 Speaker 1: of a sudden got settled in and when they went up, 513 00:23:17,628 --> 00:23:20,788 Speaker 1: tempo was moving. The fact I'm not done with Kelln 514 00:23:20,868 --> 00:23:22,708 Speaker 1: Mond yet, Like I no, it's here too. But like 515 00:23:23,428 --> 00:23:26,228 Speaker 1: the Zimmer era is done, it is the O'Connell era. 516 00:23:26,348 --> 00:23:28,908 Speaker 1: And I think Kelen Mond not gonna start for Kirk Cousin. 517 00:23:28,948 --> 00:23:30,548 Speaker 1: But we don't know how long kirk Cousins are going 518 00:23:30,588 --> 00:23:32,548 Speaker 1: to be there in Minnesota. This was an important game 519 00:23:32,948 --> 00:23:34,508 Speaker 1: for Mond and I think a lot of people need 520 00:23:34,508 --> 00:23:36,468 Speaker 1: to see something from him, and I think he showed yesterday. 521 00:23:36,508 --> 00:23:38,188 Speaker 1: He went through a lot of personal growth when he 522 00:23:38,308 --> 00:23:40,708 Speaker 1: was at Texas A and M. He was there a 523 00:23:40,748 --> 00:23:43,148 Speaker 1: long time. Jimbo Fisher taught him a lot. But he 524 00:23:43,348 --> 00:23:45,428 Speaker 1: is a young man. That's taken a bit for him 525 00:23:45,468 --> 00:23:47,588 Speaker 1: to mature. But he's really coming to his own, especially 526 00:23:47,668 --> 00:23:49,468 Speaker 1: considering everything you have to handle is an on a 527 00:23:49,468 --> 00:23:51,428 Speaker 1: full quarterback. Yeah, I'm going from a young guy to 528 00:23:51,508 --> 00:23:56,388 Speaker 1: an old guy. Chase Dan fourteen, we talked about forty million, 529 00:23:56,428 --> 00:23:59,308 Speaker 1: They talked about the amount of money with touchdowns and 530 00:23:59,428 --> 00:24:01,348 Speaker 1: all that. Well, Chase Daniel went out there like a 531 00:24:01,388 --> 00:24:03,908 Speaker 1: young guy two touchdowns. One was a forty yard bomb. 532 00:24:04,028 --> 00:24:06,628 Speaker 1: See the other one there he scrambled for twenty yards. 533 00:24:06,748 --> 00:24:09,948 Speaker 1: Yo guy posted on Twitter a video of his son 534 00:24:10,148 --> 00:24:13,028 Speaker 1: watching him run out of the tunnel in tears. He 535 00:24:13,108 --> 00:24:15,588 Speaker 1: was so excited to see his dad be out there 536 00:24:15,668 --> 00:24:18,788 Speaker 1: in the football game in the NFL. And you know, 537 00:24:18,868 --> 00:24:21,348 Speaker 1: Chase didn't play last year, so he's watching Justin Herbert. 538 00:24:21,428 --> 00:24:23,388 Speaker 1: So now he's at the game and his dad's out 539 00:24:23,428 --> 00:24:26,788 Speaker 1: the fired up. It's just that his dad couldn't hear him, 540 00:24:26,828 --> 00:24:28,508 Speaker 1: but he hears you man. He was able to see 541 00:24:28,508 --> 00:24:31,508 Speaker 1: the video after So Chase Daniel, old guy, still out 542 00:24:31,508 --> 00:24:34,828 Speaker 1: there getting it done, also providing that leadership on that 543 00:24:34,868 --> 00:24:37,588 Speaker 1: team in the quarterback room for Justin Herbert. I want 544 00:24:37,588 --> 00:24:40,268 Speaker 1: to see old guys win. So I'm rooting for Chase Daniel. 545 00:24:40,388 --> 00:24:42,028 Speaker 1: Is he sad that his dad couldn't hear him? Or 546 00:24:42,108 --> 00:24:44,628 Speaker 1: is he like over one of them? All of it? 547 00:24:44,708 --> 00:24:46,948 Speaker 1: You didn't know how to feel. Sam Howell of the 548 00:24:46,988 --> 00:24:49,908 Speaker 1: Washington Commanders. Sometimes when a rookie shows up and it's 549 00:24:49,948 --> 00:24:51,588 Speaker 1: really nice that they show up just like you want. 550 00:24:51,828 --> 00:24:53,748 Speaker 1: This was the kind of plays that Sam Howe was making. 551 00:24:53,788 --> 00:24:57,268 Speaker 1: It unc big old husky runner kind of like I 552 00:24:57,268 --> 00:24:58,628 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't want to insult him, but like 553 00:24:58,668 --> 00:25:00,988 Speaker 1: a little bit of like a Tebow thing, except maybe faster. 554 00:25:01,468 --> 00:25:04,108 Speaker 1: And we had him a million times leading up to 555 00:25:04,108 --> 00:25:05,148 Speaker 1: the draft. I felt like he was on the show 556 00:25:05,148 --> 00:25:07,108 Speaker 1: every week, even there was only once, and we would 557 00:25:07,108 --> 00:25:09,468 Speaker 1: always show his angry runs, need stiff arm. Guys look 558 00:25:09,508 --> 00:25:11,348 Speaker 1: at him at the goal line. He's pushing people and 559 00:25:11,508 --> 00:25:13,428 Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, this is how you break into the 560 00:25:13,428 --> 00:25:16,188 Speaker 1: second about rookie quarterbacks, right through the goal line touchdown 561 00:25:16,228 --> 00:25:18,268 Speaker 1: Sam Howe Commanders. I liked how he showed up Putty 562 00:25:18,308 --> 00:25:21,828 Speaker 1: got Jamie. I too read the email as rookie quarterbacks. 563 00:25:21,828 --> 00:25:24,468 Speaker 1: So I'm going to stay in the genre of rookie quarterbacks. 564 00:25:24,468 --> 00:25:27,988 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna go Desmond Ritter because I like the 565 00:25:28,028 --> 00:25:31,148 Speaker 1: decision that he is forcing upon the Falcons as to 566 00:25:31,228 --> 00:25:33,068 Speaker 1: who is going to be the guy down the stretch 567 00:25:33,108 --> 00:25:35,588 Speaker 1: for the Falcons. One of the winningest quarterbacks in college 568 00:25:35,588 --> 00:25:38,068 Speaker 1: football to come into the Falcons. He started up slow, 569 00:25:38,108 --> 00:25:39,588 Speaker 1: there were bumps on the road on the way there, 570 00:25:39,708 --> 00:25:42,228 Speaker 1: but he came up clutchmen it matter. Two touchdown passes, 571 00:25:42,348 --> 00:25:44,348 Speaker 1: including this game with er twenty one yard or on 572 00:25:44,388 --> 00:25:47,028 Speaker 1: a fourth and nine with under two to play, and 573 00:25:47,228 --> 00:25:49,188 Speaker 1: he showed off his four or five speed. He took 574 00:25:49,228 --> 00:25:54,228 Speaker 1: off six times within this offense, good for fifty nine yards. Honestly, 575 00:25:54,268 --> 00:25:55,988 Speaker 1: if he keeps playing like this, and it kind of 576 00:25:56,028 --> 00:25:58,388 Speaker 1: reminds me of the situation that's happening in Carolina right now, 577 00:25:58,588 --> 00:26:02,748 Speaker 1: he could set He could shrink the gap between starter 578 00:26:02,868 --> 00:26:05,628 Speaker 1: and backup to four decision or maybe a little bit 579 00:26:05,668 --> 00:26:12,988 Speaker 1: sooner than we ever thought. Well, last night was the 580 00:26:13,068 --> 00:26:15,508 Speaker 1: debut of the NFL Top one hundred Players of twenty 581 00:26:15,548 --> 00:26:17,508 Speaker 1: twenty two, a list of the best players in the 582 00:26:17,588 --> 00:26:20,428 Speaker 1: league chosen by the players. It's a really fun way 583 00:26:20,428 --> 00:26:22,308 Speaker 1: to ramp up to the season. It gets into the 584 00:26:22,308 --> 00:26:24,868 Speaker 1: insights to the players that are in game action, and 585 00:26:25,628 --> 00:26:29,348 Speaker 1: what was revealed was players one hundred through fifty one. 586 00:26:30,068 --> 00:26:32,988 Speaker 1: So we wanted to chat quickly about who stood out 587 00:26:33,028 --> 00:26:36,508 Speaker 1: the most to us on this first half of the list. 588 00:26:36,748 --> 00:26:38,868 Speaker 1: Who'd you got? I mean, I played in seven games, 589 00:26:39,108 --> 00:26:42,228 Speaker 1: I didn't make the list. No. One on one. I 590 00:26:42,228 --> 00:26:44,028 Speaker 1: got a memo, you were one on one, one, two 591 00:26:44,068 --> 00:26:47,708 Speaker 1: on one. But I'm going with Cordarrel Patterson Unk who 592 00:26:47,788 --> 00:26:50,628 Speaker 1: was a friend of the show and going into year ten, 593 00:26:51,068 --> 00:26:54,748 Speaker 1: Cracks the top one hundred, and boy did he deserve it. 594 00:26:54,908 --> 00:26:58,068 Speaker 1: We have Debo as the wide back soues he kind 595 00:26:58,108 --> 00:27:01,188 Speaker 1: of a running receiver. He did it all for Atlanta. 596 00:27:01,228 --> 00:27:02,868 Speaker 1: He was split out at wide receiver, he was in 597 00:27:02,908 --> 00:27:06,148 Speaker 1: the backfield CP, he was all over the place. Brother, 598 00:27:06,348 --> 00:27:08,508 Speaker 1: that was fun to watch a guy who's been one 599 00:27:08,548 --> 00:27:11,828 Speaker 1: hell of a returner throughout his entire career gets to Atlanta. 600 00:27:11,988 --> 00:27:14,948 Speaker 1: Arthur Smith figures out how to incorporate him in the 601 00:27:15,028 --> 00:27:18,108 Speaker 1: offense and he made place all over the field. So 602 00:27:18,428 --> 00:27:20,068 Speaker 1: for me, it was excited to see a guy in 603 00:27:20,148 --> 00:27:22,348 Speaker 1: year ten crack the top one hundred and have the 604 00:27:22,388 --> 00:27:24,468 Speaker 1: best career, best season of his career. I don't know 605 00:27:24,468 --> 00:27:26,588 Speaker 1: if there's a grand database of like top one hundred. 606 00:27:26,748 --> 00:27:28,588 Speaker 1: I wonder if he is the most years into a 607 00:27:28,628 --> 00:27:31,628 Speaker 1: career to have being prevised, right, I would think. So, 608 00:27:31,708 --> 00:27:33,388 Speaker 1: there's a guy who did not go far into his career. 609 00:27:33,508 --> 00:27:35,508 Speaker 1: Mac Jones at number eighty five and pleased for him. 610 00:27:35,548 --> 00:27:37,148 Speaker 1: That's a very nice honor for him. Let me tell 611 00:27:37,148 --> 00:27:39,948 Speaker 1: you something, Mac Jones at eighty five, Kirk Cousins at 612 00:27:39,988 --> 00:27:42,908 Speaker 1: ninety nine is ridiculous. Mac Jones is not a better 613 00:27:43,028 --> 00:27:46,348 Speaker 1: quarterback than Kirk Cousins and by any stretch any metric 614 00:27:46,508 --> 00:27:48,868 Speaker 1: anything he's been in one year. But I do think 615 00:27:48,868 --> 00:27:51,308 Speaker 1: it's an interesting barometer considering the players vote for it 616 00:27:51,428 --> 00:27:54,388 Speaker 1: of how they view Kirk Cousins, how they view Mac Jones. 617 00:27:54,388 --> 00:27:56,148 Speaker 1: I guess mac Jones was cooler because he did a 618 00:27:56,228 --> 00:27:57,868 Speaker 1: dance on the Pro Bowl and he's with the Patriots. 619 00:27:58,068 --> 00:28:00,388 Speaker 1: I get very defensive about Kirk Cousins. He want him 620 00:28:00,388 --> 00:28:02,588 Speaker 1: at ninety nine, and fine, he's not fourteen slots worse 621 00:28:02,628 --> 00:28:04,628 Speaker 1: than a guy who's played one year. That's ridiculous. You 622 00:28:04,628 --> 00:28:06,388 Speaker 1: know what else is ridiculous the fact that it took 623 00:28:06,428 --> 00:28:08,828 Speaker 1: his entire career for Justin Tucker to land in the 624 00:28:08,868 --> 00:28:13,188 Speaker 1: top the best guy at his position in history industry. 625 00:28:13,188 --> 00:28:14,788 Speaker 1: I mean, this guy is gonna be a first ballot 626 00:28:14,868 --> 00:28:17,508 Speaker 1: pure kicker Hall of Fame guy once he has done 627 00:28:17,548 --> 00:28:20,028 Speaker 1: playing fifty plus yard field goals. Last year he went 628 00:28:20,068 --> 00:28:21,868 Speaker 1: for six or six. He sets the record last year 629 00:28:21,868 --> 00:28:23,868 Speaker 1: for the sixty six yard or in Detroit. He should 630 00:28:23,908 --> 00:28:27,628 Speaker 1: just get paid. The entire team, the offense operates differently 631 00:28:27,708 --> 00:28:30,108 Speaker 1: because they have Justin Tucker on the team. The fact 632 00:28:30,188 --> 00:28:31,788 Speaker 1: that he wasn't in the top one hundred before this 633 00:28:31,828 --> 00:28:33,988 Speaker 1: is insane. The fact that he's number ninety four, I'm 634 00:28:33,988 --> 00:28:36,308 Speaker 1: happy about. I think Justin Tucker is a better kicker 635 00:28:36,308 --> 00:28:38,508 Speaker 1: than Aaron Donald's defensive tackle. I think he's a better 636 00:28:38,588 --> 00:28:42,268 Speaker 1: kicker than Yeah, I agree, he's a kicker. He's a kicker. 637 00:28:42,428 --> 00:28:44,148 Speaker 1: You guys all feel that way, but all you players, 638 00:28:44,348 --> 00:28:46,308 Speaker 1: you hate kickers. What Steve Smith says the same thing 639 00:28:46,308 --> 00:28:47,948 Speaker 1: as a kicker, You guys hate kickers. I was just 640 00:28:47,948 --> 00:28:50,228 Speaker 1: gonna say, Kyler is the second highest paid player in 641 00:28:50,268 --> 00:28:53,428 Speaker 1: all of football and went fifty seven. Players with the 642 00:28:53,428 --> 00:28:56,308 Speaker 1: players think of Kyler Murray fifty seven. Second the team 643 00:28:56,348 --> 00:28:58,588 Speaker 1: came and it's Rogers and Kyler. As far as money 644 00:28:58,668 --> 00:29:00,708 Speaker 1: goes right now in the NFL this season, I don't 645 00:29:00,708 --> 00:29:02,028 Speaker 1: know what if. I think he should be top ten 646 00:29:02,148 --> 00:29:05,268 Speaker 1: or top twenty, but fifty seven seem a little low 647 00:29:05,308 --> 00:29:07,428 Speaker 1: on the list for someone who's being paid and compensated 648 00:29:07,468 --> 00:29:09,988 Speaker 1: that way. I think it's generous fifty seven. There's a 649 00:29:10,028 --> 00:29:12,548 Speaker 1: lot of really good players every seven last year, I know, 650 00:29:12,708 --> 00:29:14,668 Speaker 1: I know it. Really It really just hones in on 651 00:29:14,708 --> 00:29:17,388 Speaker 1: the fact that what the dollar signs mean compared to 652 00:29:17,708 --> 00:29:20,028 Speaker 1: what the players think and compete against on the field. 653 00:29:20,428 --> 00:29:22,908 Speaker 1: All Right, Now that we know players one hundred through 654 00:29:22,908 --> 00:29:24,788 Speaker 1: fifty one, how is the rest of the listener hold? 655 00:29:25,468 --> 00:29:28,068 Speaker 1: We're gonna find out still the morning football to come 656 00:29:42,508 --> 00:29:44,828 Speaker 1: from starters to rookies to guys just trying to make 657 00:29:44,828 --> 00:29:47,188 Speaker 1: the roster. We saw so much action over the past 658 00:29:47,228 --> 00:29:50,668 Speaker 1: couple of days, But in your mind, who won preseason 659 00:29:50,828 --> 00:29:53,708 Speaker 1: Week one? The Kansas City Chiefs All all season, all 660 00:29:53,748 --> 00:29:56,708 Speaker 1: we've talked about is a AFC West, the Raiders. They 661 00:29:56,708 --> 00:29:59,988 Speaker 1: now have DeVante Adams, they're taking off Mister on Limited 662 00:30:00,228 --> 00:30:02,148 Speaker 1: is a Denver. Now they're going to be the team. 663 00:30:02,228 --> 00:30:04,948 Speaker 1: The Charges are gonna take the next step. Just Herbert Well. 664 00:30:04,948 --> 00:30:07,188 Speaker 1: The Chiefs went out there and just look as dominant 665 00:30:07,228 --> 00:30:09,948 Speaker 1: as they have the past few seasons. The offense gets 666 00:30:09,988 --> 00:30:13,068 Speaker 1: the ball. Patrick Mahomes drives them right down the field, 667 00:30:13,108 --> 00:30:16,028 Speaker 1: scores a touchdown. The defense got on the field. The 668 00:30:16,028 --> 00:30:18,428 Speaker 1: Bears three and out, had to punt the ball. The 669 00:30:18,428 --> 00:30:21,308 Speaker 1: Bears get the ball back, Darnelle Mooney makes a terrific catch. 670 00:30:21,508 --> 00:30:25,068 Speaker 1: The possession ends with the punt. Shark makes a great catch. 671 00:30:25,308 --> 00:30:28,828 Speaker 1: The possession ended with a punt. The Chicago Bears didn't 672 00:30:28,828 --> 00:30:31,308 Speaker 1: score a point in the first half, and I think 673 00:30:31,348 --> 00:30:34,588 Speaker 1: all the talk around the Chiefs offense without Tyreek Hill, 674 00:30:34,908 --> 00:30:37,628 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is still good. You see him regular tossing 675 00:30:37,628 --> 00:30:40,548 Speaker 1: it too, a Rutgers grab Michael Burton on the sideline. 676 00:30:40,588 --> 00:30:43,428 Speaker 1: But this Chiefs team looked as good as we've seen them, 677 00:30:43,548 --> 00:30:46,548 Speaker 1: as they've dominated the division since Andy Reid has been there. 678 00:30:46,548 --> 00:30:48,388 Speaker 1: So I think there's been a lot of talk, and 679 00:30:48,468 --> 00:30:51,148 Speaker 1: we watched this team go out there and just look 680 00:30:51,188 --> 00:30:54,228 Speaker 1: like a well oiled machine and just play some good football. 681 00:30:54,348 --> 00:30:55,828 Speaker 1: And that's what you want to see in the preseason. 682 00:30:55,868 --> 00:30:57,828 Speaker 1: As an offense, you want to get in their score, 683 00:30:58,108 --> 00:30:59,988 Speaker 1: go put your hat on and stand on the sideline. 684 00:31:00,028 --> 00:31:01,988 Speaker 1: The defense, you want three and outs and the punts. 685 00:31:01,988 --> 00:31:04,708 Speaker 1: It's a terrible feeling as a defense to start. Artists 686 00:31:04,708 --> 00:31:06,588 Speaker 1: come in, draw it right down the field, score touching 687 00:31:06,628 --> 00:31:09,348 Speaker 1: out and we're supposed to be done after one possession. Terrible. 688 00:31:09,868 --> 00:31:11,508 Speaker 1: I'm just looking at the league this weekend. I think 689 00:31:11,508 --> 00:31:12,988 Speaker 1: the Eagles are gonna be good. I like the Eagles 690 00:31:13,028 --> 00:31:14,708 Speaker 1: this year a lot, and I don't like the starting 691 00:31:14,748 --> 00:31:17,268 Speaker 1: quarterbacks playing a ton like guys like Matt Ryan and 692 00:31:17,348 --> 00:31:19,748 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts. But if they do, I want him to 693 00:31:19,748 --> 00:31:21,828 Speaker 1: look sharp. I'm the starter. I'm the guy. Jalen hurts 694 00:31:21,908 --> 00:31:24,108 Speaker 1: Bal did not touch the ground six for six passing. 695 00:31:24,348 --> 00:31:26,188 Speaker 1: He also had a crazy thing where he got rocked 696 00:31:26,188 --> 00:31:28,428 Speaker 1: on the sideline, which I don't love. Nick Serianni's head 697 00:31:28,428 --> 00:31:31,228 Speaker 1: almost exploded. He took a huge hit. But everyone in 698 00:31:31,268 --> 00:31:34,708 Speaker 1: Philadelphia's freaking out about Cam Jurgen's They're linemen who looks 699 00:31:34,748 --> 00:31:39,748 Speaker 1: like some sort of Anthony Munio's meets DERMANI. Dawston looks incredible, 700 00:31:39,788 --> 00:31:41,988 Speaker 1: but in the meantime quarterback comes in, ding ding, ding 701 00:31:42,068 --> 00:31:43,788 Speaker 1: ding ding. Get the hell off the field, keep the 702 00:31:43,868 --> 00:31:46,748 Speaker 1: jersey clean. Other than the hit, I like Philly this year, guys. 703 00:31:46,788 --> 00:31:48,468 Speaker 1: I know the focus is on you know who down 704 00:31:48,468 --> 00:31:50,588 Speaker 1: in Dallas. I still like Philly playoff team last year. 705 00:31:50,588 --> 00:31:52,308 Speaker 1: It hurts look sharp, I like it, buy in. I 706 00:31:52,308 --> 00:31:54,828 Speaker 1: totally buy any you know who else looks sharp. Trey Lance, 707 00:31:55,308 --> 00:31:56,988 Speaker 1: you know I love the line you had at the 708 00:31:57,068 --> 00:31:59,388 Speaker 1: highlight the It's not black or white, it's gray because 709 00:31:59,388 --> 00:32:02,068 Speaker 1: it connected with Danny Gray on that seventy six yard touchdown. 710 00:32:02,068 --> 00:32:03,868 Speaker 1: Well for Tree Lance, he had no option this weekend. 711 00:32:03,868 --> 00:32:05,308 Speaker 1: It was going to be black or white. People were 712 00:32:05,308 --> 00:32:07,348 Speaker 1: going to buy in. So the decision that Kyle Shanahan 713 00:32:07,428 --> 00:32:09,748 Speaker 1: made or they were not well, he made people go 714 00:32:09,868 --> 00:32:12,068 Speaker 1: all in on the future for him in the forty 715 00:32:12,148 --> 00:32:14,428 Speaker 1: nine I mean, he had the wow, electric moment of 716 00:32:14,428 --> 00:32:16,308 Speaker 1: the weekend. And that's what we need from these guys. 717 00:32:16,468 --> 00:32:20,188 Speaker 1: When you literally hinge an entire team's future on your potential, 718 00:32:20,428 --> 00:32:22,388 Speaker 1: goes four for five for ninety two yards, he his 719 00:32:22,388 --> 00:32:25,548 Speaker 1: own seven yard run. I loved it. I absolutely loved it. 720 00:32:25,588 --> 00:32:27,908 Speaker 1: And good for him to quiet everybody. And I think 721 00:32:27,908 --> 00:32:30,348 Speaker 1: that's really what we're all answering here is people that 722 00:32:30,428 --> 00:32:33,428 Speaker 1: we are picking have really quieted the talk about them. Yeah, 723 00:32:33,468 --> 00:32:35,068 Speaker 1: there are a lot of questions on them. I'm gonna 724 00:32:35,068 --> 00:32:36,668 Speaker 1: go with a team that I think won. And it 725 00:32:36,708 --> 00:32:39,108 Speaker 1: was from a preseason activity that was in a pre 726 00:32:39,268 --> 00:32:42,148 Speaker 1: game of their first preseason game at Joe Burrow just 727 00:32:42,228 --> 00:32:45,628 Speaker 1: running sprints before that Bengals preseason game. I'm not sure 728 00:32:45,668 --> 00:32:47,348 Speaker 1: if you guys saw. Bengals are playing the Cardinals and 729 00:32:47,388 --> 00:32:49,948 Speaker 1: Burrows out there doing basically suicide runs and he's doing 730 00:32:49,988 --> 00:32:51,748 Speaker 1: it and it's like because I can, because he can, 731 00:32:51,908 --> 00:32:54,428 Speaker 1: but because he's back. And then on Sunday, two days 732 00:32:54,468 --> 00:32:56,748 Speaker 1: after the game, Burrow is out there doing seven on 733 00:32:56,788 --> 00:32:58,948 Speaker 1: seven drills and he'd was supposed take a couple of reps. 734 00:32:58,948 --> 00:33:01,468 Speaker 1: He ended up taking the full reps and going ten reps. 735 00:33:01,468 --> 00:33:03,868 Speaker 1: And that's what we wanted to see. The appendeck to 736 00:33:03,948 --> 00:33:06,388 Speaker 1: me might have meant anything to anybody, but like the 737 00:33:06,428 --> 00:33:09,708 Speaker 1: fact he's at pendix burst in the beginning of the sunlight. 738 00:33:09,908 --> 00:33:11,628 Speaker 1: We don't want that, we don't need that, we don't 739 00:33:11,628 --> 00:33:15,028 Speaker 1: need any stepbacks. This is Burrow from yesterday. He looks 740 00:33:15,068 --> 00:33:17,428 Speaker 1: the part they were out there they played against the Cardinals. 741 00:33:17,428 --> 00:33:19,908 Speaker 1: Of course he wasn't on the field, but this team 742 00:33:19,948 --> 00:33:22,548 Speaker 1: isn't going anywhere if Joe Burrow isn't healthy, and it 743 00:33:22,588 --> 00:33:24,788 Speaker 1: looks like he fully is. I think they're the biggest 744 00:33:24,828 --> 00:33:27,308 Speaker 1: winners that we know for sure, that the defending AFC 745 00:33:27,468 --> 00:33:30,148 Speaker 1: champions have their quarterback. He's healthy, he's in place, and 746 00:33:30,188 --> 00:33:32,308 Speaker 1: all his weapons are actually week. We've talked about them 747 00:33:32,468 --> 00:33:33,988 Speaker 1: for the last six months since the last play the 748 00:33:34,028 --> 00:33:35,708 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and you've always been very bullish on they 749 00:33:35,708 --> 00:33:37,388 Speaker 1: didn't lose anybody, and they're gonna How are you feeling 750 00:33:37,428 --> 00:33:40,108 Speaker 1: right now about twenty two Bengals? Good? Yeah, Honestly, cj 751 00:33:40,268 --> 00:33:43,148 Speaker 1: Usama leaves the team and they've had a few players 752 00:33:43,148 --> 00:33:45,308 Speaker 1: on defense leave the team, but they had a very 753 00:33:45,308 --> 00:33:47,868 Speaker 1: big need offensive line, and they addressed it with three 754 00:33:47,908 --> 00:33:51,628 Speaker 1: different free agents and drafted somewhere. The Jesse Bates situation aside. 755 00:33:51,868 --> 00:33:54,588 Speaker 1: The Bengals have been hitting home runs all off season 756 00:33:54,708 --> 00:33:56,548 Speaker 1: and now it's just just finished the job, like you've 757 00:33:56,548 --> 00:33:58,228 Speaker 1: done it. The players are there, you know what you 758 00:33:58,268 --> 00:34:00,108 Speaker 1: have to do, and the target is now on them 759 00:34:00,108 --> 00:34:03,668 Speaker 1: as opposed to them being the Hunters. Another preseason game, 760 00:34:03,748 --> 00:34:08,468 Speaker 1: Carolinas and the Washington Commanders. There goes Baker Mayfield. Welcome 761 00:34:08,508 --> 00:34:11,908 Speaker 1: to the club. Panthers go on to win the game. 762 00:34:12,588 --> 00:34:14,828 Speaker 1: Let's get to this sound see what Matt Rule is 763 00:34:14,868 --> 00:34:17,548 Speaker 1: talking about. No, that was that was for today. That 764 00:34:17,628 --> 00:34:18,868 Speaker 1: was just for today. So we'll go back and look 765 00:34:18,868 --> 00:34:21,028 Speaker 1: at this tape. And obviously Sam got to send the 766 00:34:21,068 --> 00:34:23,068 Speaker 1: end zone. Baker let us down the field. So it 767 00:34:23,108 --> 00:34:24,948 Speaker 1: looks like both guys, you know, played well in terms 768 00:34:24,988 --> 00:34:26,588 Speaker 1: of production. We'll go back and look at see where 769 00:34:26,588 --> 00:34:29,508 Speaker 1: they are. But that was just a for today. So 770 00:34:29,548 --> 00:34:32,508 Speaker 1: the quarterback battle and Carolina is still going on. So 771 00:34:32,548 --> 00:34:34,948 Speaker 1: do we believe Sam Donald still has a chance to 772 00:34:34,948 --> 00:34:37,308 Speaker 1: be named the Panther starter. It feels like when Matt 773 00:34:37,388 --> 00:34:40,948 Speaker 1: Rule continuously answers this question. He is like trying to 774 00:34:40,988 --> 00:34:43,468 Speaker 1: create it as more of a question than it actually is. 775 00:34:43,508 --> 00:34:45,068 Speaker 1: Like he's trying to drum it up. So what do 776 00:34:45,588 --> 00:34:47,468 Speaker 1: I think it is? Out of respect for Sam Donald? 777 00:34:47,508 --> 00:34:49,108 Speaker 1: I guess like you don't want to just say, hey, 778 00:34:49,108 --> 00:34:51,468 Speaker 1: Baker's our guy. You said all along, Hey it's going 779 00:34:51,508 --> 00:34:54,868 Speaker 1: to be a quarterback competition between Baker, between Sam, they 780 00:34:54,948 --> 00:34:57,708 Speaker 1: both look good, blah blah blah blah blah blah. But 781 00:34:57,988 --> 00:35:00,068 Speaker 1: I think it's Baker's job to lose. That's what it 782 00:35:00,108 --> 00:35:03,028 Speaker 1: seems like it always has been. To have joint practices 783 00:35:03,068 --> 00:35:06,668 Speaker 1: coming up with the Patriots. Sam Donald hasn't fared well 784 00:35:06,868 --> 00:35:08,948 Speaker 1: early on in his career against the Patriots. I don't 785 00:35:08,988 --> 00:35:11,748 Speaker 1: see him making a big jump in those joint practices 786 00:35:11,788 --> 00:35:14,908 Speaker 1: in this upcoming preseason game. So I do think it's bakery. 787 00:35:15,348 --> 00:35:17,068 Speaker 1: Sam Donald, I'm sure, is a great person. We just 788 00:35:17,068 --> 00:35:19,028 Speaker 1: haven't seen it at the quarterback position. I think we 789 00:35:19,108 --> 00:35:21,908 Speaker 1: want quarterback battles in camp because we grew up with that, 790 00:35:22,308 --> 00:35:23,988 Speaker 1: Like we grew up with that, or it'd be like, hey, 791 00:35:24,068 --> 00:35:27,508 Speaker 1: it's gonna either be Elvis Gerback or rich Gannon roll 792 00:35:27,628 --> 00:35:29,788 Speaker 1: the ball and play you know, it's gonna be Johnson 793 00:35:29,868 --> 00:35:32,668 Speaker 1: or Rob Johnson, Doug flot even in recent years when 794 00:35:32,668 --> 00:35:35,428 Speaker 1: you've got these rookies, it's gonna be Tom Savager, Deshaun Watson, 795 00:35:35,428 --> 00:35:37,268 Speaker 1: may the best man win, or even Matt Flint or 796 00:35:37,308 --> 00:35:39,828 Speaker 1: Russell Wills. That you can't just make them happen, though, 797 00:35:39,908 --> 00:35:42,468 Speaker 1: And when Baker gets the rock to start the game 798 00:35:42,588 --> 00:35:45,108 Speaker 1: and he just arrived and he's the one leading the 799 00:35:45,108 --> 00:35:47,108 Speaker 1: team out of the tunnel, it's hard for us to say, 800 00:35:47,188 --> 00:35:49,428 Speaker 1: but wait, Sam has this big thing like, can't just 801 00:35:49,548 --> 00:35:53,068 Speaker 1: make it happen sometimes, you know, and outside of Seattle 802 00:35:53,148 --> 00:35:57,188 Speaker 1: and maybe this Caroline situation, maybe Pittsburgh. Now I'm not sure, 803 00:35:57,268 --> 00:35:58,828 Speaker 1: but I think for the most part, I think this 804 00:35:58,868 --> 00:36:01,228 Speaker 1: one is Baker's to lose already, and it only took 805 00:36:01,228 --> 00:36:02,868 Speaker 1: a few weeks for that to happen, which tells you 806 00:36:02,908 --> 00:36:05,348 Speaker 1: all you need to know. Honestly, they're they're doing an 807 00:36:05,348 --> 00:36:07,868 Speaker 1: interesting job, like you pointed out, Jamie if talking about it, 808 00:36:07,908 --> 00:36:09,948 Speaker 1: And I think when you make the move for Baker, 809 00:36:09,948 --> 00:36:11,508 Speaker 1: I think it's a rap. Yeah, I don't think you're 810 00:36:11,548 --> 00:36:14,388 Speaker 1: bringing in Baker to be to stabilize your quarterback room 811 00:36:14,428 --> 00:36:15,988 Speaker 1: and have a backup I think it's a rap. I 812 00:36:16,028 --> 00:36:17,708 Speaker 1: think that they're going through this out of respect for 813 00:36:17,748 --> 00:36:19,268 Speaker 1: Sam and trying to see him. But he was two 814 00:36:19,308 --> 00:36:21,228 Speaker 1: for three for sixteen yards. Like, if he comes out 815 00:36:21,228 --> 00:36:22,508 Speaker 1: and lights it up and I'm like, oh my god, 816 00:36:22,588 --> 00:36:24,268 Speaker 1: Donald all of a sudden has a fire under him, 817 00:36:24,308 --> 00:36:25,908 Speaker 1: then maybe, But I think it's Baker's job. I think 818 00:36:25,908 --> 00:36:27,308 Speaker 1: it's a matter of time before they announced it. I 819 00:36:27,308 --> 00:36:29,028 Speaker 1: really do. Yeah, I mean, I think at this point, 820 00:36:29,068 --> 00:36:32,108 Speaker 1: Sam Donald is fighting for his own reputation, you know, 821 00:36:32,188 --> 00:36:34,788 Speaker 1: within the team, within the league, making a case for 822 00:36:34,868 --> 00:36:38,508 Speaker 1: himself in his future, but how it pertains to this team. Really, 823 00:36:38,548 --> 00:36:40,828 Speaker 1: I think he's just telling us how long the Baker 824 00:36:40,868 --> 00:36:43,708 Speaker 1: Mayfield experiment needs to be. You know, if he continues 825 00:36:43,748 --> 00:36:46,548 Speaker 1: to kind of come out and be nondescript, I feel 826 00:36:46,588 --> 00:36:48,908 Speaker 1: like he's playing his way to solidify a backup role. 827 00:36:48,988 --> 00:36:50,588 Speaker 1: If he came out and lit up the joint, that 828 00:36:50,628 --> 00:36:53,068 Speaker 1: would be different. We would if Baker Mayfield after a 829 00:36:53,108 --> 00:36:54,948 Speaker 1: couple of weeks in the regular season, You're like, I'm 830 00:36:54,988 --> 00:36:57,788 Speaker 1: not sure, because Sam Donald was excellent in the preseason, 831 00:36:58,148 --> 00:37:00,228 Speaker 1: that would be different. But at this point, it almost 832 00:37:00,268 --> 00:37:03,228 Speaker 1: feels like they are playing into what we expected. The 833 00:37:03,268 --> 00:37:05,508 Speaker 1: situation to play out with in terms of trading for 834 00:37:05,548 --> 00:37:09,028 Speaker 1: Baker financially everything. But at this point, for sam Donold, 835 00:37:09,068 --> 00:37:10,988 Speaker 1: it's a pride factor. One of you guys said this 836 00:37:10,988 --> 00:37:12,748 Speaker 1: Earl a couple of weeks ago, like what are you 837 00:37:12,788 --> 00:37:15,708 Speaker 1: playing for? Like where's your fire? And like play for 838 00:37:15,828 --> 00:37:18,108 Speaker 1: your name? Man, I'm like, play for what the kind 839 00:37:18,148 --> 00:37:19,508 Speaker 1: of quarterback you want to be in the league and 840 00:37:19,508 --> 00:37:21,428 Speaker 1: how you want to be considered. That sounds like, yeah, 841 00:37:21,428 --> 00:37:23,588 Speaker 1: it was me. And I say that because also his 842 00:37:23,628 --> 00:37:26,108 Speaker 1: contract situation makes him really hard to trade. He's about 843 00:37:26,148 --> 00:37:28,148 Speaker 1: to make eighteen million dollars I think this year, and 844 00:37:28,188 --> 00:37:31,068 Speaker 1: it's like, gosh, there's not going to be a long 845 00:37:31,148 --> 00:37:33,308 Speaker 1: line of teams. There's already been a couple of teams 846 00:37:33,308 --> 00:37:35,668 Speaker 1: that have traded four or at least one team has 847 00:37:35,668 --> 00:37:38,748 Speaker 1: trained for him. I'm curious about the future of Sandor right. 848 00:37:38,788 --> 00:37:40,308 Speaker 1: And I thought this was going to be a better 849 00:37:40,308 --> 00:37:42,308 Speaker 1: fight than it is. But even though Deell Beckham was 850 00:37:42,308 --> 00:37:44,548 Speaker 1: was tweeting this weekend like Baker, Mayfield and Blue and 851 00:37:44,588 --> 00:37:46,948 Speaker 1: I'm like, is that he I don't know. He tweeted 852 00:37:47,828 --> 00:37:50,388 Speaker 1: like people were watching and I think Baker's his job 853 00:37:50,428 --> 00:37:54,188 Speaker 1: to lose him. Um, see you tomorrow Tuesday. Tuesday Hard Knocks. 854 00:37:54,228 --> 00:37:55,188 Speaker 1: That's a cool