1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in everybody Friday edition of The 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. And we have quite 4 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: an extravaganza plan for everybody today. For one thing, you know, 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: they've now put out an axios a five point plan 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: for how Donald Trump plans to go after Rhonda Santis, 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: who is not yet even a candidate for president. Plan. 8 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: I will talk a bit about which ones of these 9 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: we think are likely to hit, which ones are probably 10 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: going to be a swing and a miss. So that's 11 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: going to be interesting. Also, Columbia University, the first university 12 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: of its kinds certainly the first Ivy League school to 13 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: drop SAT and ACT scores entirely. You may have seen this. 14 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: I think we all know what that's all about. I 15 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: think we understand what the situation is. We will discuss that. 16 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: And also a lot of these ads by or rather 17 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: these articles Clay that they're writing about the situation of 18 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: Florida is specifically an inadvertent advertisement for Florida. Seems he's 19 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: have you seen some of these? If ron Descantis gets 20 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: his way, Florida will become some kind of right Wing Paradise. 21 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,279 Speaker 1: You go, oh wow, let's us kind a great actually, 22 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: so I'd sign me up for that. Oh and also 23 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: a Hershey's chocolate campaign involving a transwoman that I would 24 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: like to we would like to speak to you about 25 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: here coming up in a few minutes, but first stop today. 26 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: You know, we talked to you a lot about crime 27 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: here on the show. And Mayor Laurie Lightfoot. I think 28 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: it's important to note that she didn't just lose, she 29 00:01:54,960 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: got crushed. She was she was repudiated. Don't listen to 30 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: the narrative around that the Libs put forward on this stuff, right, 31 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: don't don't listen to what they're trying to say. Lorie 32 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: Lightfoot was repudiated by her own previous voters. There are 33 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: people in Chicago. We're saying, Lorie life, it's going to 34 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: be great. And then it was, oh my god, she's 35 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: horrible at her job. We have to get rid of her. Okay, 36 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: So there's a little bit of a concern here. That's 37 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: a that's a harbinger perhaps of things to come. That's 38 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: a little bit of an indicator, right, So that brings 39 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: us to the DC crime Bill. Clay, I think it's 40 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: very interesting that right now you have Joe Biden who 41 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: has come forward to say that he will not Well, 42 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: let me step back to explain what's going on. The 43 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: DC Council passed a crime bill that would eliminate a 44 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: lot of mandatory sentences, lower penalties for violent offenses, including 45 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: carjackings and robberies. Are jacking assailants are just not just 46 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: not being or rather they should be punished more, I'm sorry, 47 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: less severely. I'm trying to get this right than they 48 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: have in the past, so they're not getting the second 49 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: chances that they deserve. Over and over and over again. 50 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: The DC City Council unanimously approved this. And now you 51 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: have the Republican because DC is a federal protectorate, the 52 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: Republican Congress, and now the Republican Republican Party in Congress 53 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: and then with the help of some Democrats in the 54 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: Senate have passed a block of this DC crime bill, 55 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: and Joe Biden has come forward Clay to say he 56 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: will not veto the Republican led veto of the DC 57 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: soft on crime bill. What's this telling you? So for 58 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: people out there who don't realize or haven't thought much 59 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: about it, because a lot of people don't think about 60 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: Washington DC and what laws and regular lations they can 61 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: or cannot pass. Congress has the ability to oversee every 62 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: promulgation of a rule or law that occurs in DC, 63 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: and they have an oversight board, and if they decide 64 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: they don't like what DC is doing, they can overturn 65 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: those laws those regulations inside of the District of Columbia. 66 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: They haven't done it, Buck, in thirty years, and you 67 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: lived in DC. I lived in DC on I believe 68 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: it's still there. Every DC license plate it actually says 69 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: taxation without representation. Because there's been this argument in DC 70 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: we need to be made the fifty first state. We 71 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: need two senators, We need our congress person who can 72 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: actually have a full realm of congressional responsibilities. I think 73 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: there's seven hundred thousand people who live in Washington, DC, 74 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, in the District of Columbia right now. 75 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: So Buck, we talked earlier this week. I believe right now, 76 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: murder is up forty percent in Washington DC so far 77 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three. Crime in carjackings. I think men's 78 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: car theft is up over one hundred percent. I believe 79 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: is the number so far in twenty twenty three. And 80 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: so what you've got is, and I think it ties 81 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: in very well with this Lori lightfoot race. You've got 82 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: Democrats who are aware that defund the police, aka the 83 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: single dumbest political slogan of the twenty first century, is 84 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: a massive issue for them. And so you said yesterday, 85 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: I think it's true, and we've said it before on 86 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: this program. Biden did never endorse defund the police. Specifically, 87 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: he actually fought back against it, which is to his 88 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: credit because this thing was crazy on the left wing 89 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: and his party. And now a lot of Democrats that 90 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: are in competitive districts, either in the House or in 91 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: Senate races, are saying, we cannot be seen as soft 92 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: on crime. We can't get Lorie lightfooted. And so Republicans 93 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: are leading the charge. And this soft on crime bill 94 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: in DC is going to be repealed. Joe Biden is 95 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: not going to veto it. This is a big win, 96 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: the first big win, I would say, in terms of 97 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: legislation for Republicans since they took back the House without 98 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: that level of top cover from the party, without Joe 99 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: Biden saying yeah, fine, you know, we're we're gonna we're 100 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: gonna stop this and have DC pass its soft on crime, 101 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: the DC Council pass it's offt on crime bill. This 102 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: is a signal to other Democrats you're gonna have to 103 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: get if you're in a competitive, competitive district or a 104 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: competitive race anywhere in the country going into twenty twenty four, 105 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: you better get on board with public safety. Yes, this 106 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: this whole Oh, let's just let's just defund police and 107 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: pass bills that anybody who reads them or past laws 108 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: that anybody who reads them understands, just makes it easier 109 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: for miminals to do what they're doing. If you do 110 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,239 Speaker 1: that as a Democrat and you're in a competitive place, 111 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: Democrats not going to be able to save you. Democrat 112 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: machinery is not gonna be able to kick in. So 113 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: it's get with the program time for a lot of 114 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: them in these competitive areas. And by the way, for 115 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: Joe Biden too, for his reelection. He recognizes that. And 116 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: this is why I've said this very early on, and 117 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: I think it's very important for the GOP to understand this. 118 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: We're not even though Biden has done a lot of 119 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: things that you would have gotten from a Bernie Sanders 120 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: presidency or an AOC presidency. Even though he has pushed 121 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: a lot of far left stuff from the White House, 122 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: that was then, this is now. You're going to start 123 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: to see a move toward the center. Not that Biden 124 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: is a centrist, but you'll see movements towards the center 125 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: to protect his flank, so to speak, from some of 126 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: the attacks that would come from the far left. Craziness 127 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: because in a general election, that stuff is going to 128 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: be a real liability. I mean it just given the 129 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: amount of focus, attention, voter engagement, and crime is something 130 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: that Democrats cannot They cannot defend what they were saying 131 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: in twenties twenty. They cannot defend it. So they're just 132 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: going to pretend like they didn't say it. And Joe 133 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: Biden's going to be a big part of that, which 134 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: also means I think he's going to be a challenge 135 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: to defeat because he's gonna say, oh, well, I never 136 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: did that, that was other, that was other people. I 137 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: support cops, Now that's bullcrap. But the truth is a 138 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: lot of people will say, well, I guess he wasn't 139 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: a defund police guy. I think what you're seeing also 140 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: is who's the political candidate who has run the best 141 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: campaign on crime so far since Joe Biden became president, 142 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: I think it's Leezelden. Leez Elden basically one Republicans the 143 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: House by maniacally focusing on the crime issues. In New 144 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 1: York City, in particular, he flipped a lot of Hispanic, 145 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: Asian and black voter over to the Republican Party who 146 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: would have never voted Republican before because of the frustration 147 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: surrounding crime. And so I think if you combine what 148 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: Leezelden did in New York City and what we now 149 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: have seen in Chicago Buck, and even in LA when 150 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: Karen Bass won, she basically won on we've got to 151 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: clean up LA. We got to do something with this 152 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: homeless homelessness problem, We've got to do address all of 153 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: the crime that's going on here. I think Democrats are 154 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: a little bit terrified of this because when Morey Lightfoot 155 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: Buck goes from winning seventy three percent of the vote 156 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: for mayor in twenty nineteen in Chicago, she won all 157 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: fifty awards, she won all but twenty individual precincts, over 158 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: two thousand of them she won, and eighty three percent 159 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: of people voted against her in Chicago on Tuesday. Now 160 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: we'll see who wins that runoff race, but the guy 161 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: who was favored to win it is a tough on 162 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: crime Democrat who is probably as close to a Republican 163 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: as Chicago is willing to consider electing. Right now, and 164 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: everybody out there there antenna have gone up because I 165 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: don't think abortion is going to be an issue, And 166 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:10,599 Speaker 1: let me explain what I mean by that, and I 167 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: think you agree with me. Buck In twenty twenty two, 168 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: I do think abortion was an issue. I think most 169 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 1: people are not seeing what Democrats told them they would see, 170 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: where you feel like your under siege in your state 171 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: all of a sudden over abortion. I don't think it 172 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: registers that much many people. They're best shot to use 173 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: abortion as a wedge issue in favor of the Democrats 174 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: was this last election cycle. From here on out, Actually, 175 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: it's going to be tougher and tougher because they're going 176 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: to be the one saying, yeah, you know, partial birth 177 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: abortion and third trimester abortions, and they're going to have 178 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: to explain at a state level because people are gonna 179 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: say no, there actually is abortion is legal in some 180 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: of these states, it's much less legal in other states. 181 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: You know, depends. Obviously there's a huge range. But now 182 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: that more and more people be exposed to what the 183 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: reality of a post row world is, I think it becomes. 184 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: I mean, there's still gonna be a lot of fights 185 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 1: at the state level that world, those boundaries should be set, 186 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: But at a national level, there's not going to be 187 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: any ability to get away with abortions basically illegal now 188 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: because that's just not it's not true. You know, I 189 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: wish it were, but it's not true. So here we 190 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:25,359 Speaker 1: are looking at where Democrats are going to be most vulnerable. 191 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: It's tough to it's tough to know on the economy, 192 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: and I know right now people are saying, oh my gosh, 193 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: but look at where Yeah, but how is it gonna 194 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: be twelve months from now, Because even if it's not great, 195 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: if it if it's a credible case to be made 196 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: that things are getting a little bit better, they're gonna say, 197 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: you know, the work's not done and we're recovery. So 198 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: it's tough to get ahead of what the economic dynamics 199 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: will be for the election now because we just don't know. Crime, though, 200 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: has been a multi year. This has been a multi 201 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: really multi decade, but certainly multi year progression of the 202 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: Progressives to get it. I mean the DC city counts. 203 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: Are these people crazy? You wonder given what's going on 204 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 1: in DC? I mean you mentioned carjack carjacking is different 205 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: from car ff. Carjacking is give me your car, I'll murder. Yes, 206 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: this is a violent crime there bringing about they think 207 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: carjackers are being too harshly punished. There are more carjackers 208 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: now than DC scene in decades. Think about how tough 209 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: it is, given how much crime has already gone up, 210 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 1: particularly murder, to suddenly be up forty percent more on 211 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 1: murders in twenty twenty two. And I think you're right. 212 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: The crime issue is going to resonate. And this is 213 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: Biden's attempt to inoculate himself in some way. And certainly 214 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: if you're Joe Mansion, or you are running in Montana 215 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: or you're running in Ohio, there are a lot of 216 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: Democrats who know that this is vulnerability for them. Let's 217 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: bring this home to Okay, this isn't because we obviously 218 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: you're talking about country three hundred and three hundred. I 219 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: don't know with all the illegals now probably three hundred 220 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: and forty million people. But you think about where will 221 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 1: this matter, this narrative we're talking about today, Why is 222 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: Joe Biden rulling to take heat from his own party? 223 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: And you know, AOC and others are out there, Oh 224 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: my gosh, this is DC should also notice they always 225 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: do this. They're not really arguing on the merits of 226 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: what's going on. The Democrat argument isn't no, this this 227 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: let carjackers out of prison sooner bill is a great idea. 228 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: That's not what they're saying. They're saying, Oh, but home 229 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: rule for DC or whatever it is. You know, DC 230 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: should be able to you know, control itself, which is 231 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: not actually, as you already explain, not actually the way 232 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: it works. Usually it's allowed to, but it doesn't mean 233 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: it gets to. It's a different thing. Look at Wisconsin, Michigan. 234 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: Look at the suburbs of Milwaukee, Look at the suburbs 235 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: of and you know, redder areas of Detroit. Look at 236 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: Georgia and the suburbs of Atlanta. These are places where 237 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: the crime narrative, oh yeah, moves the needle. And those 238 00:13:54,160 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: are states for suburban swing voters, for suburban college educated voters. 239 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: For you know, for soccer moms in the burbs. The 240 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: crime thing does move the needle, and it does it 241 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: in key states, and Democrats know it. So paying attention 242 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: to what worries them is very good. Meaning worries Democrats 243 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: is very good politics. My friends out there who are 244 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: fellow gun owners, you got to have a mantis X. 245 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: It is amazing. 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Get yours at mantis x dot com. 262 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: That's m a NTI sx dot com inspiring you to 263 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: seek out the truth the Clay Travis said Buck Sexton Show. 264 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We've been 265 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: talking a little bit over the past two weeks as 266 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: the story took control all over the country about this 267 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: Alec Murdoch trial, and Buck, it didn't happen very long. 268 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: We told you that they were going to toss it 269 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: to the jury. Yesterday evening, shortly after the jury took 270 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: the case, they found Murdoch guilty of double murder. And 271 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: he's now been sentenced and will spend the rest of 272 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: his life behind bars for the double murder of his 273 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: wife and youngest son. And so I wanted to make 274 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: sure we put a bow on that story. I told 275 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: you yesterday the only thing that would have stunned me 276 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: is an acquittal. And I could have seen if there 277 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: were one or two jurors, maybe you get a hung jury, 278 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: somebody who's not interested in actually making a decision because 279 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: of a lifelong connection to the Murdock family in some way, 280 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: form or fashion. But I think they got it right, 281 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: and you became a late adherent to this media frenzy 282 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: watching a couple of documentaries or a documentary on Netflix. 283 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: You think they got it right based on everything you 284 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: saw A slam dunk case. I mean, it couldn't have been. 285 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: I think it couldn't have been more obvious to the 286 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: jury what happened here. I mean, let's just start with 287 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: putting aside everything else. Your wife and your son are murdered, 288 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: one of your sons is murdered, and you're lying about 289 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: where you are during the murder. That's I don't even 290 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: know how much you have to get into all the 291 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: other past. That really tough for a jury to get 292 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: past that. You know, you're you're you lie and hidden 293 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: by the way he admitted he lied, that's part of it. 294 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: That so it's not we think he lied about where 295 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: it was. You lied about where you were during the murder. 296 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: That's a big problem. Nobody I think out there who 297 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: can think about what they would do if they ever 298 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: had such an unfortunate thing to find out that one 299 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: of their family members was murdered. When your immediate reaction 300 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: to that is to why about your where you were 301 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: when that occurred. It's impossible, I think, for the jury 302 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: to trust you on anything, because most people would would 303 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: do whatever they could to help the police solve a 304 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: crime like that. I mean, I also think Alec Murdoch 305 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: Murdoch rather was It's funny when you watch the news 306 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: coverage over they pronounced his name like fifteen different ways 307 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: course of the trial. I think that that was a 308 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,239 Speaker 1: family that was involved in more than even just these 309 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: two murders. I think that's quite clear from the evidence 310 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: up at this point. So there's more than there's justice 311 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: even beyond the two murders that he has been sent 312 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 1: away for, because the whole Murdoch reign of terror is over. 313 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: No doubt, I think they got it right as people 314 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: of South Carolina jury getting another case right there. If 315 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: you're the type that takes every precaution into consideration, here's 316 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: one for you. You got car insurance, you got health insurance, 317 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: probably have home insurance. Do you have food insurance? We 318 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: do here at the Travis household. 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Go to my Patriot Supply 329 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: dot com and score free shipping to my Patriot Supply 330 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: dot com. Flee Travis and Buck Sexton on the front 331 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: lines of truth. So is that Morgan Wallen? Is that 332 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:12,479 Speaker 1: famous Morgan Wallen? It's so interesting because I'd say about 333 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: half our audience yesterday on the very uh small small 334 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: sample we have to go with on Twitter, because I 335 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: think about one percent of the people listened to the 336 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: show actually use Twitter. I'd say it's my fifty fifty 337 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: mister Clay that people had heard of this most famous 338 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: of country music stars who shut down downtown Nashville yesterday. 339 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna say I still haven't received my 340 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: invite to the next Morgan Wallen Concert's a little sad 341 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: about that, but yeah, look he did shut down the city, um, 342 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: and he's gonna have a free concert tonight in Nashville, 343 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: which will probably be a heck of a show. And 344 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,959 Speaker 1: uh yeah, look, I was kind of surprised by how 345 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: many people had no idea who he was, and I 346 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: would just reiterate, this is what living in Tennessee, um 347 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: is likely to I guess I'm way more plugged in 348 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: on country music singers than some of our audience. Now, 349 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: there are also a lot of people out there in 350 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: the audience, to be fair, who don't know who Rihanna 351 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 1: is and don't know who jay Z is. Right Like, so, 352 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: if you're in your sixties, seventies or eighties out there, 353 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't expect for you to necessarily be aware of 354 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: all of the current artist Although I did see did 355 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: you see this story? Buck the I don't remember which 356 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: newspaper it was, had a big puff piece about how 357 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: Merrick Garland is a huge fan of Taylor Swift. I 358 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: did see that, did see that? Yeah, they really are 359 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: working hard to make me not want to listen to 360 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift music. Anymore. It's really it's really kind of 361 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: a bummer, totally expecting for him to show up in 362 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: the next music video for Taylor Swift. Now, you know, 363 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: if she really wanted to make waves what she obviously doesn't, 364 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 1: but she's so rich and famous at this point, come 365 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: out and say that she's become a conservative, wouldn't that 366 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: be amazing? But they never will do it because well, 367 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: but we'll talk about young women. What is she like? 368 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: Probably thirty now, but younger than that about it? Yeah, 369 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: she's probably thirty. Wall Street Journal had a piece to 370 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: day that was very much I actually want I want 371 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: to get into this little bit because I thought it 372 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: was interesting, and people reached out yesterday after the show 373 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: of folks Listening reached out about the my basic thesis, 374 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: or rather the thesis that is supported by some of 375 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: the scientific evidence that you can get together as much 376 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: as there is science in social science self reporting. It's 377 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: you know, it's not like you're trying to see where 378 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: the point at which water boils. But here is before 379 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: we get to that second gentleman, as in Kamala Harris's 380 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: husband Doug Emhoff, who wants to weigh in here on 381 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: anyone to guess toxic masculinity. Can we just talk about 382 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: masculinity for a moment, as being second gentelmen changed your 383 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: own view of perceived gender roles, of what it means 384 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: to be a man. That's this is something I've I've 385 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: thought about a lot, and something I've spoken about a lot. 386 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: There's too much of toxicity. It's masculine toxics, the out 387 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: there and there we've kind of confused what it means 388 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: to be a man, what it means to be masculine. No, no, no, no, 389 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: hold on, I think he's got a clay and exactly 390 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: the wrong director. There's actually not enough masculinity in American 391 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: society these days. What I think is so interesting is 392 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: that if you if you take the position that the 393 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: second gentleman here takes that there's too much when they's 394 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: a toxic masculine, they really just mean traditional masculinity. There's 395 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 1: too much traditional masculinity. That's fine, you're allowed to wait 396 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: on that. But if you or I were to say, no, actually, 397 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: the Left is tearing down masculinity. They're undermining particularly young men, 398 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: and what is masculine, everyone goes, oh, I'm sorry, Arnold Schwarzenegger, 399 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 1: Like are you starring in Conan the Barbarian? They always 400 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: attack you right away. I think it's so interesting that 401 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: if you're a not particularly masculine man in the case 402 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: of Doug Mhoff, I don't think anybody would assume this 403 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: is a guy who's, you know, out there working hard 404 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: with his hands and getting callouses, you know, doing things 405 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: that are You can talk about toxic masculinity as much 406 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: as you want and they'll defend you. But if you're 407 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: just a normal, everyday guy and you say I think 408 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: masculinity is being undermined and there's not enough of it, it's, oh, yeah, 409 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: I guess you know, maybe you should lower the steroid 410 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: use there, buddy, because you're so you're so alpha male. 411 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: We talk all the time about women and how they 412 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: are treated in society, I believe, and I see it 413 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: in some young kids right boys who are becoming men. 414 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: We don't talk enough about how we have so feminized society, 415 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 1: in particular education, that we're losing a lot of young men. 416 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: And I know there are a lot of moms and 417 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: dads of young men that are nodding along with me 418 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: right now. Buck, Do you know what percentage of college 419 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: degrees now go to women. It's five sixty percent. Oh yeah, 420 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: sixty percent now of college degrees go to women, women 421 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: overwhelmingly in role in college compared to men. I think 422 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: what we have done is we have swung so far 423 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: in the opposite direction in trying to say, oh, manhood 424 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: is wrong. You know, we never hear toxic femininity, right, 425 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: We never hear that aspect of the feminine persuasion as 426 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 1: things that can be toxic. But I think we have 427 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: feminized the educational system in particular to such a degree 428 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: that many men, young boys in particular, do not fit 429 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: in that system. And I think we've kind of tried 430 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: to smooth off the rough edges of competition and of 431 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: masculine ideals. And what I see with young boys buck 432 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: is I think they're swinging back in the other direction 433 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: where they feel like they are being targeted for being boys. 434 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: And I think we're seeing Andrew Tad as a good 435 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: example of this, wildly popular on YouTube because he speaks 436 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 1: to boys and tells them you should be proud of 437 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: being a man. You should. And now, look, I'm not 438 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,719 Speaker 1: saying that everything Andrew Tate says is something that I 439 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: want every one of my kids to emulate, But I 440 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: think there's this desperate yearning among boys to be men, 441 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 1: and I think they're struggling with how to get there 442 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: in this society that we've created. It's interesting, isn't it 443 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: that you have, just as a side note, with Andrew Tate, 444 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:29,959 Speaker 1: a black American being held in a foreign prison without trial, 445 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: going on month three, and nobody in the mainstream media cares. 446 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: Nobody's I mean, whether you think he's innocent or guilty. 447 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: I'm just talking about how about process? How about nobody 448 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: in the bide the White House seems to care about 449 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: him compared to Britney Griner, do they? I mean Britney 450 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: Griner broke the law. She actually broke the law, admitted it. 451 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: There's no Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan are saying 452 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 1: we have done nothing wrong and nothing illegal, and they're 453 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: now in going into month three, they still haven't been 454 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: charged with anything correct, no charges whatsoever. That's you know, 455 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: people who remember they're reading some kafka back in high 456 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: school or in college. This is kafka, ask well, hold on, 457 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: shouldn't they at least? This is why you know people 458 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 1: do bring this up, And it actually came up recently 459 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 1: and even in the case of the Murdoch trial, right, 460 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: this notion that, Okay, our criminal justice system is not 461 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: so great, except it's better than all the other ones 462 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: out there. You find me another country and tell me 463 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: about their criminal justice system, and I'll tell you the 464 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: genius of the Founders still shines through compared to what 465 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: we've seen everywhere else. You'd rather be in a quarter 466 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,959 Speaker 1: of law here than anywhere else, and that certainly includes Romania. Amen. 467 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: And I'll just speak to Andrew Tate again. My two 468 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: oldest boys. When I mentioned this was before he was arrested. 469 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: Andrew Tate was starting to do media and we were 470 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 1: potentially going to reach out to him and get him 471 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: on this show. And I just asked my kids, because 472 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: they watch his videos way more than I have, and 473 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: they were like, Andrew Tate is for their group. I 474 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: saw as a front page story in the New York 475 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: Times about this recently, Tubuck in England, Andrew state tad 476 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: is so popular that they are countering Andrew Tate's teachings 477 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: two young boys, and I thought to myself, why is 478 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: this desperate yearning out there for young boys? I think 479 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: it's because traditional masculinity has been so attacked that they 480 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: don't know where they fit in societally. So so if 481 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: we line this up between what the what would second 482 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: gentleman Doug Emhoff say about masculinity and what would be 483 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 1: the things that Andrew Tad would say. Now as you 484 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 1: put it out, you don't agree with everything. I don't know. 485 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: You don't know, nor would we agree with everything that 486 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: Ted Tate is. I don't agree with everything anybody says. 487 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: Let's be exact, right, That's what I was gonna's normal humanity. 488 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: But I can point to things that that Tate has 489 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: said publicly. Now as we know, him and his brother 490 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: are being held in this remaining in prison on human 491 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: trafficking and sexual assault allegations, and if you read more 492 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: and more about it, it the whole thing is, you know, 493 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna hold them for six months and 494 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: let them go. If that tells you that's the maximum 495 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: under Romanian statute they can hold. Remember they're not being 496 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: held pending judgment. They're being held pending charges to your 497 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: They're investigating them while keeping them under I mean, this 498 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: is crazy. I mean, this is why you don't want 499 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: to be in Romania. That's right. You don't want to 500 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: be in the Romanian justice system, but you could point 501 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: to things he said, like it is the job of 502 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: a man to protect women, and protect particularly his wife 503 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: or the woman, you know, his romantic partner, with his 504 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: life if necessary. That's something my dad taught me when 505 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: I was growing up. He said, you know, you're you're with, 506 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: you're out with with somebody, you're out with your girlfriend, 507 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: or you're out with you know, women who are acquaintances 508 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: of yours. You are there to defend them. And when 509 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: it comes to your wife, you defend your wife with 510 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: your life if necessary. Those are messages that I think 511 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: resonate with men, with men who want to women. By 512 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: the way, I think there's a lot of women out 513 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: there that hate this, uh Doug em Hoff like, oh 514 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: men are awful. I mean, I think there's a lot 515 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: of women that want more math sculinity in America. I 516 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: don't think we need to hear from Doug em Hooff 517 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: with his you know, his soft little fingers that have 518 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: never actually been in any kind of any kind of 519 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: a scrap of any kind ever. I'm not even talking 520 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: about all it did. He like serve his country and thinking, no, 521 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: forget about even that, just this is not a guy. 522 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: What is his message for men? That you shouldn't talk 523 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: as much in class, let the girls talk more, because 524 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: if you're toxic masculinity that you should be careful. You 525 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: shouldn't assert an opinion too aggressively because you might be 526 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: man splaining. And by the way, the answer is yes, yes, 527 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: if you're if you're taking the toxic masculinity rhetoric to 528 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: its end state, you're taking into a place where you 529 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: know masculinity is inherently a bad thing that needs to 530 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: be minimized. That is what toxic masculinity as an ideology is. 531 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: So would you rather have that or rather have somebody 532 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: who actually has some things to say that are pretty 533 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: interesting and pretty compelling about masculinity, I think. But for 534 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: all the people to weigh in on this, Doug Emhoff, 535 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: I think that there is a massive demand and for 536 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: manly men, and I think we are seeing a swing 537 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: back in the direction of men being happy to be men. 538 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: Like one of my kids, I was in Target recently 539 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: and they were like girls rule the World t shirts 540 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: or whatever, and one of my young kids was like, 541 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: how come there no boys rule the world? T shirts 542 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: Dad when I was like, well, you know, it's kind 543 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: of an interesting perspective for an eight year old to 544 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: be like walking around and they see the way that 545 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: the education system, in their opinion, treats girls compared to boys. 546 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: I just think I think we're I think we have 547 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: swung so far in the opposite direction where we put 548 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: manhood itself under attack. And the left if you even 549 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: say I want to be I want to become more masculine. 550 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: To me, that means I want to be a better provider. 551 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,239 Speaker 1: I want to be physically stronger. I want to be 552 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: mentally stronger. I want to be somebody that other people 553 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: can come to when they need help, when they need 554 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: somebody to lift them up. I want to be somebody 555 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: who can defend people, you know, against the wolves out there. 556 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: I want to be a sheep dog. Right. The left goes, 557 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: oh yeah, miss oh, you're you know that They it 558 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: makes live men, makes them uncomfortable. Right. You can't even 559 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: say I want to get better, I want to be 560 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: more masculine. They immediately attack your masculinity because they're trying 561 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,479 Speaker 1: to find some weakness in it. Because what are they 562 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: thirty year old girls listening to us right now. Buck 563 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: that are single that are furious that they can't find 564 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: men to date. They find beta male subservient men who 565 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: pretend like if you sit down in your first date 566 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: and the guy says I'm a feminist, run in the 567 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: other direction. And now that I'm now that I'm a 568 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: happily married man after having twenty years of not being 569 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: married and being a guy who is dating. I could 570 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: tell to the young men out there listening, I'm gonna 571 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: give you two things that when it comes to women, 572 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: will will change change your life. Okay, if you're having 573 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: any problems and then you know dating or be confident, 574 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: be decisive. You add those two that. I mean, look, 575 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here, Clay Travis is like the uh, it's 576 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,719 Speaker 1: like the babe ruth of confidence. I have way too much. 577 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: He's a very issue. Yes, I've telling you, be confident, 578 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: be decisive, and you will see things change. 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Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck. 606 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: A new podcast. Fit it on the iHeart app or 607 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back in a lot 608 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,239 Speaker 1: of Morgan Wallen, I believe being played all throughout the 609 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: show today. I may have requested that these all these 610 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: all be brought to bear after my shock that Buck 611 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: Sexton was not aware of who Morgan Wallin was. We 612 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: were talking during the break, continued our conversation about Andrew Tate, 613 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:07,959 Speaker 1: and I wanted to mention this too, and I'll take 614 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: a call in a sec. The thing that resonates I 615 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: think Buck the most with my boys. And again, I'm 616 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: raising three boys, so I probably think about this idea 617 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: of toxic masculinity far more than I would if I 618 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: weren't raising three boys. But what they appreciate about Andrew Tate, 619 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 1: and I think where there is a desperate craving among 620 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: young boys right now is the self reliance, the rely 621 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: on yourself, the be mentally and physically tough aspects of 622 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: his message because they're so young, they're not like they're 623 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 1: dating girls, so that aspect doesn't really resonate with them. 624 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: But it's just the hey rely on yourself message that 625 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,959 Speaker 1: I think is not getting through to boys at all, 626 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: and they desperately crave it. Yeah, and I think also 627 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: telling men at a young age life is harder, more competitive, 628 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: and more unfair than you currently realize. Yeah, whoever you are. 629 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, some people may be an extreme 630 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: circumstances thing. Life is incredibly unfair at a very young age. 631 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying in general, I think most American 632 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 1: young men should hear that. You know, I'll tell a real, 633 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: real quick thing, Clay. You know, I went back to 634 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: my high school many years ago when I was still 635 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: a CIA officer, and they asked me on the fly. 636 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: I happen to be in New York. I was visiting family. 637 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: They said, Hey, could you come in and speak to 638 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: the kids, you know, the guy the seniors about how 639 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: to get jobs. And I didn't prepare this for anything else. 640 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: I went in there and I was like, so, you 641 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: guys are out of school. That is annually in like 642 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: the top five for average sat in the entire United States. 643 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: You're all on one hundred thousand dollars scholarship. You all 644 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: got straight a's before you came here, and you're gonna 645 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: get straight a's in college afterwards. Guess what nobody really cares. 646 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: Getting jobs is really hard. You're gonna have to scrape 647 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: and struggle and fight. And the better the job you want, 648 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: the harder it's going to be to get it. Because 649 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: there are other kids all over the country with straight a's. 650 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: There are other people, you know. I just kind of 651 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: gave them this, and all the teachers came up in 652 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: the afterst that was so good for them to hear. 653 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: They don't understand because I was saying things like, you're 654 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: gonna have to hustle. You're gonna have to do things 655 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: you don't want to do to get their respect of 656 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: you know, your bosses, and you're gonna have you know, 657 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: because they're used to hearing you're all amazing. You know, 658 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna go to a greade school. You're gonna get 659 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 1: a great job. Well yeah, maybe in the big picture, 660 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: but the short picture is show up and gut it out. 661 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: My oldest is at an all boys school and I 662 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: think it's been phenomenal for him to only be surrounded 663 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: by boys. But I think for a lot of people 664 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: out there, you know that what we are talking about, 665 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 1: you may see it. Your kids are struggling in school, 666 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 1: your boys in particular, they just aren't really fitting in, 667 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: and nobody's talking about it. Women are dominating higher education, 668 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: men are being left behind. It's a big story deserves 669 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 1: more attention. Next hour