Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast. Thanks Dan needs another nickname?
Speaker 2: From the Chris Wesley podcast Studio. It's Around the NFL.
Speaker 2: I am the old Zeusser, Daddy Rich, tug Boat, the
Speaker 2: old New blue Eyes VANSA sure that seems like enough personally.
Speaker 3: Danzas is the only one you didn't give to yourself.
Speaker 1: I kind of like that one. No, actually that's incorrect.
Speaker 2: Big Daddy Rich was from Wes based on the Chuck
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Speaker 4: I thought Wes also was in the game of trying
Speaker 4: to come up for monikers for you inside names.
Speaker 2: He enjoyed that he did. Yeah, he did, and we
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Speaker 1: I gotta say I'm a little.
Speaker 5: Disappointed, not mad, just disappointed the listeners. Oh yeah, you
Speaker 5: asked for something.
Speaker 2: I made a request for new Connie theme music.
Speaker 3: What came in and where is it?
Speaker 2: I asked Eric Robert's our producer Eric, right before we
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Speaker 3: Eric I did not see any.
Speaker 5: Counterpoint.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I understand why you're a little mythed a little bit,
Speaker 4: but what if fits the kind of thing where when
Speaker 4: you go into your own you know, workspace or lab,
Speaker 4: if you're the listener, you're just spending the right amount
Speaker 4: of time.
Speaker 5: To get okay, something genius versus something to It's been
Speaker 5: a solid week.
Speaker 6: But also I feel like there needs to be a
Speaker 6: competition or there needs to be a prize to really drive.
Speaker 7: People to do it.
Speaker 1: You got one more?
Speaker 3: I don't. I personally like that one. The acapella one.
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Speaker 5: The Queen, The Queen a lot of.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 6: Now I'm starting to feel uncomfortable and I'm like sweating
Speaker 6: so too much?
Speaker 7: This is maybe a lot.
Speaker 3: I think that's your sleeping pill weary enough.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: It's like, listen, I haven't been sleeping very well last
Speaker 6: couple of nights. I've been up and awake, like I
Speaker 6: wake at one am and I can't fall back asleep
Speaker 6: until five. So last night I took a Benadryll esque
Speaker 6: pill called hydroxyzine.
Speaker 1: Oh when did this ever go wrong? For people?
Speaker 6: And I'm still coming out of it, not gonna lie,
Speaker 6: but I did sleep last night, so that's good.
Speaker 1: You look awake, thank you. At the very at the
Speaker 1: very least.
Speaker 6: I did, like, I'm really high.
Speaker 4: I know that sleeping world, and I'll I remember a time.
Speaker 4: Then at the combine, I mistakenly took like multiple Bena
Speaker 4: drills that were sleep produce scene versus the one where
Speaker 4: it's like we're gonna correct you, but you won't fall asleep.
Speaker 4: It's like the second of eighteen press conferences. And I
Speaker 4: was like, I'm dying. I'm like, I cannot stay awake.
Speaker 4: I need someone to cart me away, call an ambulance
Speaker 4: to get me a gun.
Speaker 6: I didn't know that there's a non drowsy benadryl Oh yeah, really, huh?
Speaker 7: I went, or you know, that's great.
Speaker 2: I can't take any cough medicine without falling asleep instantly,
Speaker 2: like it's it's.
Speaker 1: It might as well be.
Speaker 7: This is great information to know.
Speaker 2: And I remember we went to the it's a rite
Speaker 2: of passage if you grew up in the Tri State area,
Speaker 2: you go to the Christmas Spectacular at Radio City Music
Speaker 2: Hall one with the Rockets.
Speaker 1: And I was like.
Speaker 2: Twelve, and I was not feeling well and the whole
Speaker 2: family went, my whole mom's side of the family. So
Speaker 2: there was like twenty five thirty. Oh my god, and
Speaker 2: I was like, Mom, I'm sick. I can't do this
Speaker 2: like Danny, you're going so put on the sweater and
Speaker 2: then she gives me the cough medicine. Within five minutes
Speaker 2: of the show, I was head tilted back, snoring loudly
Speaker 2: in radio music hall.
Speaker 3: They didn't let me back in.
Speaker 2: Until like the two thousand and twelve drafts. Good memories,
Speaker 2: good memories, good security. Don't like drugs, they're just either.
Speaker 7: But now we know how to drug you instantly. Yeah
Speaker 7: that is great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right today, how you doing, Greg?
Speaker 3: I'm doing great.
Speaker 2: It's just a little quiet today. What's going on? What's
Speaker 2: going on in that brain, that big old brain of Greg?
Speaker 1: Is it the box?
Speaker 3: I think we've maybe reached the point where there's there's
Speaker 3: two I'm sick of hearing myself what We've reached the
Speaker 3: point of shows where it's like I'm done with it.
Speaker 1: That's a problem.
Speaker 7: My god, it's just week four.
Speaker 1: That's a problem.
Speaker 7: What is this mini coffin you have here?
Speaker 2: You see the box? Is what you think it is?
Speaker 2: This is not like a baby coffin or anything. This
Speaker 2: is a box.
Speaker 3: God.
Speaker 1: Okay, well you're the one that called it a mini coffin.
Speaker 1: What do you think you put in? A mini coffin?
Speaker 4: Could be used for that, if it could be a
Speaker 4: times a need, but it's that's not what it's doing
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 2: This is a box. It's a wooden box. I don't
Speaker 2: know what is it. It's not oak?
Speaker 1: Why? I think it's pretty cheap?
Speaker 2: Would but inside the box is well, what's one of
Speaker 2: your favorite films?
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler from the nineteen nineties.
Speaker 4: Oh, I know you're referring to seven seven Brad Pitt,
Speaker 4: Morgan Freeman, Gwyneth Peltry vehicle.
Speaker 2: From that particular film.
Speaker 3: No, what's in a box?
Speaker 1: There's not good stuff in this box?
Speaker 7: Do we have to open it now?
Speaker 1: It's not it's not Gwyneth Palshrow's head. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you that right now.
Speaker 2: But there's there's some ominous things in this box. And also,
Speaker 2: just to be nice, I put some a couple of
Speaker 2: good things in the box. Oh, so you're gonna pull
Speaker 2: You're gonna pull things out of this box, and most
Speaker 2: of them will be terrible, and your job will to
Speaker 2: will be to react to it and try to almost
Speaker 2: rationalize and spin it. If you get something bad.
Speaker 3: I mean, if there's ever a show to check out
Speaker 3: on YouTube.
Speaker 1: Oh god, it's a mess.
Speaker 6: The production value here is off the So we're pulling
Speaker 6: things out of that tiny box.
Speaker 2: Right out of the box. Hand in the box, pull
Speaker 2: it out, all right. But before that, let's get to
Speaker 2: the previews. The prime time and a certain series of
Speaker 2: games is beginning. International games begin this week, believe it
Speaker 2: or not, Week four.
Speaker 1: Let's start though on Thursday night.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, good one looking forward to this one. The
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions two and one heading to Lambeau to face
Speaker 2: the two and one Packers, both teams Greggi'm gonna get
Speaker 2: Greggie back by talking ball. This will get your juices
Speaker 2: flown again. The Lions very nice.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is sort of an I haven't been
Speaker 3: I haven't been that quiet. It's just I didn't have
Speaker 3: much to contribute it to.
Speaker 2: Well, it was more like I asked kind of like
Speaker 2: a kind of an innocent question. But then you came
Speaker 2: back with I can't hear myself anymore, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: well that was you know, it was?
Speaker 1: It was good.
Speaker 2: The Lions played very well I thought, especially on the
Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball in Week three against the
Speaker 2: Falcons and the Packers. We know, coming back from seventeen
Speaker 2: down in the fourth quarter at Lambeau really in Jordan
Speaker 2: Love's first stark Reggie being shorthanded the way they are,
Speaker 2: that is like the birth of a new like I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna say legend, because you chances to get three
Speaker 2: legendary quarterbacks in a row or beyond Neil you would think,
Speaker 2: but it's the birth of a great storyline and a
Speaker 2: great potential career for Jordan Love. So, two teams feeling
Speaker 2: good about themselves, two rivals squaring off with Al and
Speaker 2: Kirk on the call your thoughts.
Speaker 3: I'm excited that we might get to see something closer
Speaker 3: to what the Packers were supposed to be going into
Speaker 3: the season in this game. The buzz, the word is
Speaker 3: that Aaron Jones and Christian Watson are expected to play
Speaker 3: join us. We'll see, We'll see about David Bachtiari and
Speaker 3: Jaya Alexander Alexander and so there's other important people. Elton
Speaker 3: Jenkins there, their offensive lineman might be out too. But
Speaker 3: I think it's a great coaching matchup, because I have
Speaker 3: really noticed Matt Lafleur feelin himself. His two point conversion
Speaker 3: that he went for to make it a six point
Speaker 3: deficit last week on the first touchdown. I think a
Speaker 3: lot of people notice that that won them the game.
Speaker 3: That's an example of you know, the nerds with the
Speaker 3: analytics like winning the game, and yet that's never a
Speaker 3: big story. But when when you go for fourth and
Speaker 3: one and you get stuff, that's a big story. But
Speaker 3: I've seen the creativity in the play calls. You've seen
Speaker 3: some wide open receivers for Jordan Love. Jordan Love's actually
Speaker 3: been the least accurate quarterback in the entire NFL in
Speaker 3: terms of throwing uncatchable balls. And that doesn't he either
Speaker 3: throws amazing passes or he's kind of all over the place.
Speaker 2: He's fifty one for ninety six and it's a little
Speaker 2: over fifty percent.
Speaker 3: Right, and he makes great throws and I think he
Speaker 3: makes good decisions, so the accuracy hasn't killed him. But
Speaker 3: my point is, we got Luke Musgrave out there, a
Speaker 3: rookie titles and Fine Jaden Reid, Dontevian Wis, and we
Speaker 3: got guys running open against NFL defenses. That's Matt Lafleur.
Speaker 3: He's really thrown some great shot plays every week. And
Speaker 3: now he's going up against the Lions defense, which is
Speaker 3: coming off their best game of the season and Aaron Glenn,
Speaker 3: who I think did such a good job last week
Speaker 3: against Atlanta. I think is a fun low matchup.
Speaker 4: I think it's these two teams that for you, you know,
Speaker 4: this is just you kind of are into teams, so
Speaker 4: you're not you can't help it. The Lions a super
Speaker 4: bar fest for me for like a decade plus and
Speaker 4: the Packers sort of just the same thing. I'm now
Speaker 4: like at a peak interest in both teams, and even
Speaker 4: last year with like team of atl it's like, cool.
Speaker 5: I'm with you kind of.
Speaker 4: But now I'm like what I see in the last
Speaker 4: couple of weeks that was they won me over.
Speaker 5: No, It's like that's just true. It was like I
Speaker 5: can't fake it.
Speaker 2: You know, well, you you denied throughout the last half
Speaker 2: of last season that you were faking it.
Speaker 4: Well, the thing is like, I see where you're coming from.
Speaker 4: But now now I feel a little bit different, and
Speaker 4: I think it's like these are two teams that have
Speaker 4: they're going through major transfer and like Brad Holmes to me,
Speaker 4: like the Lions GM this draft class, Jamiir Gibbs, Jack Campbell,
Speaker 4: Sam Laporta, Brian Branch who looks like an absolute star.
Speaker 4: Last year was Aiden Hutchinson On the Green Bay Packers side,
Speaker 4: you got red like you mentioned Dobbs Musgrave. These are
Speaker 4: the only two teams in the league with rookies who
Speaker 4: have three hundred and fifty plus scrimmage yards already this season.
Speaker 4: They are incredibly I think for the Packers that's come
Speaker 4: through injuries, no doubt, without Watson, without Jones.
Speaker 5: But it's like you've got like.
Speaker 4: These young teams developing into into a completely changed NFC North.
Speaker 4: And I'm with you that love is a little inaccurate,
Speaker 4: But I also love that he's like not scared to
Speaker 4: just throw the ball down field and Golf's like actual
Speaker 4: metrics and statistics over the last like twenty games are insane.
Speaker 5: It's like it's kind of just working out for both teams.
Speaker 4: So this is a Thursday night game that year in
Speaker 4: years past, I would have snoozed through probably parts of it.
Speaker 5: I will be watching this time.
Speaker 6: I can't wait for this game? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 6: I mean, I know it's so early, but you look
Speaker 6: at the rest of the division. These two teams are
Speaker 6: I think going to be duking it out at the
Speaker 6: end of the year for the division title.
Speaker 3: I mean, the other two are zero to three, so
Speaker 3: they're a good start.
Speaker 6: So whoever wins this game will have, you know, sole
Speaker 6: possession whatever for the for the time being of the division.
Speaker 6: But I think it's interesting too looking at the Packers'
Speaker 6: schedule after they get basically one game in twenty three days,
Speaker 6: because after TNF they get that mini by then they
Speaker 6: don't play again until Monday night and then they get
Speaker 6: an actual buy So it's a team that's banged up
Speaker 6: right now. That offensive line, as you guys mentioned, like
Speaker 6: they could be without sixty percent of their starting offensive line,
Speaker 6: which isn't great. But hopefully they'll get Aaron Jones back
Speaker 6: and they'll get Christian Watson back for the first time
Speaker 6: the season. You can kind of really see what this
Speaker 6: offense could be because guys like Romeo Dobbs, like he
Speaker 6: looks really good. That toe drag swag that he had
Speaker 6: on along the sideline. I feel like that didn't get
Speaker 6: nearly enough pop as it should have, and then you
Speaker 6: talk about the young guys on on the Lion's side,
Speaker 6: Jamior Gibbs starting in place of David Montgomery and looking
Speaker 6: really good. I mean he is going up against this
Speaker 6: Packers run defense now that allowed over two hundred yards
Speaker 6: in the lost to Atlanta, So he could be in
Speaker 6: for a nice game. If David Montgomery is not able
Speaker 6: to go.
Speaker 3: Sounds like Montgomery will play in Taylor Decker, their right
Speaker 3: tackle as well, could be returning. Ohthough the Lions are
Speaker 3: probably down about five other starters. Both these teams have
Speaker 3: been really destroyed by injuries and winning anyways.
Speaker 7: This injury report is insane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so many people. Everybody's heart right now.
Speaker 2: It feels like that the Lions offenses had, especially you
Speaker 2: know in the goff Era, has had a really nice floor.
Speaker 2: In fact, they can match a franchise record. If they
Speaker 2: score at least twenty points on Thursday, that would be
Speaker 2: the thirteenth consecutive game they've done that.
Speaker 1: That's very nice.
Speaker 2: Also nice is when you watch this defense and I
Speaker 2: know it's the Falcons and they have their issues right now,
Speaker 2: but they're just they're continek neewing to build off the
Speaker 2: way last year ended, and the pass rush is getting
Speaker 2: home now. And it's not even just Aiden Hutchinson. I
Speaker 2: think he had only his first sack two in week three?
Speaker 1: Did he have two?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, a lot of pressures, but they're they're consistent.
Speaker 2: The pressure is getting home. You saw how they shut
Speaker 2: down Bejon Robinson on the ground in that game as well,
Speaker 2: So it's like you're seeing just growth, continued growth on
Speaker 2: that side of things. You mentioned Brian Branch who's all
Speaker 2: over the field, another rookie. So if this is what
Speaker 2: the lines are going to be, I I feel differently
Speaker 2: about them now than I did a month ago, because
Speaker 2: the defense really is if it's going to continue to
Speaker 2: build here, I know the offense is going to be good,
Speaker 2: and if you put those two things together, this is
Speaker 2: like a ten or eleven win team.
Speaker 1: I kind of liked them in this game.
Speaker 4: I thought it was like to you know, what they
Speaker 4: did against the Falcons to allow forty four yards on
Speaker 4: the ground.
Speaker 5: I didn't expect that to happen.
Speaker 4: I thought that was the kind of thing that Atlanta
Speaker 4: could do week after week, But the two weeks before
Speaker 4: they only allowed ninety to the Chiefs eighty two in
Speaker 4: week two they've got a stout on defense. He actually
Speaker 4: only had I think two sacks going into last into
Speaker 4: week three, and it kind of exploded against the Falcons,
Speaker 4: and so it's like can you continue that?
Speaker 5: Like I think you can.
Speaker 4: And you mentioned like Taylor Decker being back that takes
Speaker 4: pin sewell and moves him back to his natural position.
Speaker 4: So the line starts to look the way that they
Speaker 4: envisioned it, and they're strong on both fronts. And like
Speaker 4: the way that their offensive line this is like the
Speaker 4: number four line versus the number one and like that.
Speaker 3: That should be interesting in terms of what.
Speaker 5: PFF score of like overall line grade four verse one.
Speaker 6: I like that also just quickly Rashaan Gary, I mean,
Speaker 6: he looked great last week and he got the game
Speaker 6: ball and he was crying in the locker room and.
Speaker 3: Had coming off in a cluh and uh gonna be
Speaker 3: a free agent this year. And they're they're Russian Hutch
Speaker 3: from the inside quite a bit too, Like they're a
Speaker 3: funding if they win on the road after ending the
Speaker 3: Packers season in Week eighteen in that Sunday night game
Speaker 3: last year, that that's a big you know, shit, changing
Speaker 3: out the guard in the division. I think they're one
Speaker 3: year ahead. I'm with you. I like the lines. I
Speaker 3: think they're one year ahea and they're sort of developing.
Speaker 3: The Packers are kind of like where the Lions were
Speaker 3: a year ago.
Speaker 4: By the way, those line metrics are actually the attractiveness
Speaker 4: of each group, so it's not.
Speaker 1: If we get both physically attractive. Got it?
Speaker 6: All?
Speaker 2: Right, Let's head to Sunday and it's not a primetime game,
Speaker 2: but it is the beginning of the London series. We
Speaker 2: will be in London, hope we mentioned that. I think
Speaker 2: we have What game are we at?
Speaker 3: We're at a third one Titans Ravens Ravens, how.
Speaker 2: And the very excited for that. The first game is
Speaker 2: Falcons Jaguars, or to use the way they talk, Jaguars
Speaker 2: from Wembley Stadium, and you have the Falcons humbled a
Speaker 2: little bit, come back to earth after that Lions game.
Speaker 2: You need more from the quarterback obviously there because everything
Speaker 2: else seems like it's ready to roll the Jaguars.
Speaker 1: What are they? What are they right now? Connie? What
Speaker 1: are the Jaguars?
Speaker 6: It's a great question because the offense they never found
Speaker 6: a rhythm last week. I don't know really where I
Speaker 6: am on Desmond Ritter. He was just under pressure the
Speaker 6: entire game. He was sacked seven times. It affected his accuracy,
Speaker 6: it affected everything. And they couldn't run the ball either.
Speaker 6: So the offensive line was having massive, massive problems. The
Speaker 6: play calling was weird. It was just not a great
Speaker 6: game for them. Obviously Bejean Robinson, as I mentioned, he
Speaker 6: got really bottled up last week. But the Falcons defense
Speaker 6: kind of looks interesting right now.
Speaker 7: And yeah, it's always such a mess.
Speaker 6: There's never a pass rush, and it's not like the
Speaker 6: pass rush is anything incredible right now because it's still
Speaker 6: kind of middling. But they have guys like Grady Jarreted
Speaker 6: on the inside and David Anyamata who are really getting
Speaker 6: to the quarterback and pressuring him a ton, whoever that
Speaker 6: quarterback is. But also defensively like Jesse Bates three interceptions
Speaker 6: in three games. That was such an amazing pick up
Speaker 6: for them in the offseason, and it's something they really needed.
Speaker 1: They're good enough.
Speaker 3: Like the whole point was, let's get this defense good
Speaker 3: enough and the running game can carry us. And I
Speaker 3: was pretty disappointed last week by just like the lack
Speaker 3: of will that really the Lions won that battle against them.
Speaker 3: And this is another team in Jacksonville where they're much
Speaker 3: better stopping the run than they're rushing the passer. They're
Speaker 3: one of the worst pass rush teams in the league.
Speaker 3: Trayvon Walker the Worms Tourney in Jacksonville, where all the
Speaker 3: fans who were hitting out at any analysts that pointed
Speaker 3: out that, like, maybe that wasn't such a great pick.
Speaker 3: Aiden Hutchinson looks a little better. Now they're at that
Speaker 3: point where like this is looking very troubling. They Devin
Speaker 3: Lloyd's been a bit of a bus too, and the
Speaker 3: first round pick. He's hurt now out of this game.
Speaker 3: But this is a defense. It's pretty good stop in
Speaker 3: the run, and so they ask you to throw the
Speaker 3: ball against them, essentially, and that's what the Lions were
Speaker 3: doing last week. And Desmond Ritter is not at the
Speaker 3: point that he can take what the defense gives him.
Speaker 3: Like the defense is playing in such a way that
Speaker 3: like we're gonna do everything we can to stop the run.
Speaker 3: Let's see if you can take advantage. And that's why
Speaker 3: Arthur Smith is letting Ridder throw the ball more, but
Speaker 3: instead he's throwing a bunch of hospital balls. He's taken
Speaker 3: miss sacks and he's making big time mistakes, which in
Speaker 3: his four games last year, the one thing he did
Speaker 3: well was not make huge mistakes at least, and he's
Speaker 3: doing that this year.
Speaker 4: I guess like in another world, if the Desmond Ridder
Speaker 4: thing went really well, he's more like Jordan Love at
Speaker 4: this point. Imperfect, but there's like a lot of hope,
Speaker 4: and I think the hope is disappearing a little bit
Speaker 4: with Desmond Ridder, and it's like, I don't know that
Speaker 4: Tannehill trade concept still sits in my mind, is like
Speaker 4: maybe you course correct this as soon as possible, because
Speaker 4: there's a lot of talent on this team. They right
Speaker 4: now feel like if you can shut down the run
Speaker 4: and do what happened last week, you have no chance.
Speaker 4: And it's like they didn't seem very creative on offense
Speaker 4: to me a week ago. It's like everything I kind
Speaker 4: of liked about them when they went up against the
Speaker 4: Packers and what happened in week one vanished. And I
Speaker 4: think it's a chance for like a Jaguars team that's
Speaker 4: probably more practiced than any other lead team in the
Speaker 4: league at traveling to London and understanding how to do
Speaker 4: that and maximize it there for two weeks, which is
Speaker 4: a little strange. Like Doug Peterson, who I would I
Speaker 4: guarantee doesn't love the idea of staying in London for
Speaker 4: two weeks. None of these coaches actually do, no matter
Speaker 4: how nice it is for the.
Speaker 3: Fans like beautiful city.
Speaker 4: Like to go to London for two weeks to have
Speaker 4: to try to like he's already said, like we don't
Speaker 4: know how, like our film study is going to happen
Speaker 4: on a team wide basis in our hotel between week
Speaker 4: one and week two.
Speaker 5: So that just sits out there. But I think they're
Speaker 5: in general, like I.
Speaker 3: Mean they have Wi Fi over there, I can get.
Speaker 5: It's not a Wi Fi thing.
Speaker 4: It's more dislike up on the train going hotel versus
Speaker 4: team cam fishing. You got to like figure, yeah, but
Speaker 4: you don't have time to go fishing when you're trying
Speaker 4: to I mean, we don't have time to go for here.
Speaker 1: I know here is.
Speaker 2: A Desmond Redder stat the PFF because it happened again
Speaker 2: against the Lions. Or he's throwing the ball right to
Speaker 2: these teams and they're not catching the ball, and that's
Speaker 2: very fortunate because I think he's only credited with with
Speaker 2: what one interception so far this year? Had some fumbles
Speaker 2: her pff. He's had seven turnover worthy plays in three weeks.
Speaker 5: It's not gonna stay that lucky.
Speaker 2: Plus five is the ratio really to do it? And
Speaker 2: that leads the league, so he is. He's kind of
Speaker 2: surviving a little bit here by the rest of the
Speaker 2: team has played well and he's gotten pretty lucky. And
Speaker 2: I'm just wondering how much longer this is gonna last
Speaker 2: because because Arthur Smith, as we said, I haven't loved
Speaker 2: Arthur Smith away, he's been running this offense so far either,
Speaker 2: and I'm wondering when he takes the keys away from Ritter.
Speaker 1: And the problem with that is because you see this
Speaker 1: with other teams.
Speaker 2: If you go completely away from the quarterback, that makes
Speaker 2: your offense one dimensional, and then nobody wins that way either.
Speaker 2: You're kind of stuck in our league if your quarterback stinks,
Speaker 2: and who is their backup?
Speaker 1: Who is what does plan be?
Speaker 2: And that's when if I'm a Falcons fan, if this
Speaker 2: isn't gonna work out, I'm mad because this team was
Speaker 2: otherwise ready to make the leap, and you didn't really
Speaker 2: build in a backup plan.
Speaker 1: So I'm still early. I would be curious behind a kid. Okay,
Speaker 1: I wonder when we see him because.
Speaker 3: They're too long one, they're two and one, because they're.
Speaker 2: Still saying all the right things and he hasn't. Doesn't
Speaker 2: seem like riders lost the locker room. You hear all
Speaker 2: the guys saying, he's our dog. We're riding with him.
Speaker 2: But let's see what happens if this continues.
Speaker 7: Calvin Ridley Revenge Game.
Speaker 3: Ah yeah, I am very curious how Ridley comes out
Speaker 3: in this game. Ridley has been one of the biggest
Speaker 3: reasons why the Jaguars have lost these two games. I mean,
Speaker 3: he has beyond struggled four drops in the two games,
Speaker 3: a bunch of mental errors. The Jaguars are sort of
Speaker 3: the opposite of Atlanta, whereas like their quarterback's playing well.
Speaker 3: I think once you actually watch the games and everyone
Speaker 3: else is struggling, Like he's third in PFF grades and
Speaker 3: they're twenty seventh in offensive EPA like per past and
Speaker 3: third seems a little high to me, but I kind
Speaker 3: of get it. And Ridley seems in his head like
Speaker 3: Peterson had to talk to him. They're trying to like
Speaker 3: run the offense through him and maybe he's not totally
Speaker 3: ready for that. It's it's a weird situation. And now
Speaker 3: you got the game against Land. I do want to
Speaker 3: mention I had this book sent to me by Ben Isaacs,
Speaker 3: the American Football Revolution, Dan written fell in Love with
Speaker 3: the NFL.
Speaker 1: It's it's just a picture of us in the book.
Speaker 3: We're actually and it's the hardcover. We're actually mentioned in
Speaker 3: the book. But it reminds me because this game is at
Speaker 3: Wenley hold On.
Speaker 5: What does it say about us?
Speaker 7: What's about Mark?
Speaker 3: I think it's just like popular with how is this
Speaker 3: not book actually a book like you could read?
Speaker 2: You went out of your way to bring up the book, Greggy,
Speaker 2: And we're in the book to give Ben Isaacs about us.
Speaker 2: We're not even going to stop down. We're just gonna
Speaker 2: all sit here silently until Greg finds us in the book.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say how all the games used to
Speaker 3: be at Wembley and now this is the only one that.
Speaker 7: It's Trevor Lawrence's birthday too while they're over there.
Speaker 4: So this is where he got is like to your point,
Speaker 4: Greg on Lawrence because he has four touchdowns and three interceptions,
Speaker 4: over his last six games. But it's like a box
Speaker 4: score that lies because he is essentially like third in
Speaker 4: the league on big time throws.
Speaker 3: He's been fine, but his drop.
Speaker 4: Rate is second in the in the NFL. Calvin Ridley
Speaker 4: looked great in Week one. I thought it was like,
Speaker 4: this is gonna completely change their offense. And it's been
Speaker 4: a ton of drops. They've had that stuff in the
Speaker 4: end zone against the Chiefs, there was a sideline throw
Speaker 4: that went awry. It's like he's getting Trevor Lawrence has
Speaker 4: some bad luck with his white out so far.
Speaker 3: Like they're trying to integrate Ingram and Kirk, like didn't
Speaker 3: have any touches in the first half and then they're
Speaker 3: you know, sometimes the.
Speaker 1: Year right now. All right, So that's a good game.
Speaker 2: Shout out to everybody in England and surrounding territories. Should
Speaker 2: be a fun watch. And yes, we'll see you in
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks. One last thing, honey. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: this is not a Connie thing. This is more like
Speaker 2: our business type of thing. We throw around revenge game
Speaker 2: pretty liberally, and like what revenge Like, what did the
Speaker 2: Falcons do to Calvin Ridley? I mean he stepped away
Speaker 2: from the team for mental health issues. That's not something
Speaker 2: we're making fun of him joking about. But then he
Speaker 2: gambled on pro football and then got suspended for a year.
Speaker 1: And then they were like, we got.
Speaker 5: It's a gray area.
Speaker 1: We got to kind of move on here.
Speaker 7: This is a little all right, so we'll reboot it.
Speaker 7: We'll call it a connection game, all right.
Speaker 2: Doesn't have the same but I understand same juice. If anything,
Speaker 2: it could be. Nobody ever says that's a Falcons revenge
Speaker 2: game like on Ridley put us in a tough spot.
Speaker 7: That's true.
Speaker 5: Stree team against player.
Speaker 7: You guys, have you checked your passports?
Speaker 1: By the way, I am, I'm good. I know what
Speaker 1: you're saying.
Speaker 3: I just got from ten years.
Speaker 7: Yeah, if it's expired, because mine was, so.
Speaker 6: We went rama and I just just noticed it.
Speaker 1: And you're leaving next Monday. See, I was in the
Speaker 1: situation you got to do that.
Speaker 5: I realized it's very stressful.
Speaker 7: We're dealing with the State Department.
Speaker 1: You're dealing with the State Department.
Speaker 2: You're dealing dealing with a lot of bureaucracy, and you
Speaker 2: got to cut through red tape.
Speaker 1: Huh, And you gotta get on that airplane.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: I don't wish that upon you.
Speaker 4: They get into that Colleen background check area, which he
Speaker 4: gets Murky.
Speaker 6: Were gon that they're going to find out about the
Speaker 6: traffic school and a speeding ticket.
Speaker 2: And why you left. You fled to Philadelphia for the
Speaker 2: other side of the country. He started, there's some on
Speaker 2: the limb.
Speaker 7: Yeah, some stories living in Mexico.
Speaker 1: Now I put it that way. Put it that way,
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 2: Next Sunday night football, Oh my god, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Remember and Greg is looking he searched.
Speaker 3: I haven't get about to give up.
Speaker 7: They have like an index or you look like you're
Speaker 7: really trying hard.
Speaker 3: I'm scared. I'm popping the pages. What more you can
Speaker 3: you do?
Speaker 2: Do you remember the recent film directed by Adam McKay
Speaker 2: Don't Look Up. Yeah, a little heavy handed, a lot
Speaker 2: of stars in it, some good moments.
Speaker 1: It's fine, Okay.
Speaker 4: I liked it more than other people. Yeah, I kind
Speaker 4: of did too, but it got railed by the like
Speaker 4: the a.
Speaker 2: Little bit, A little bit. I find it quite rewatchable.
Speaker 2: Check it out. However, the movie is about these two
Speaker 2: kind of low level astronomers who realize that there's a
Speaker 2: comet heading for Earth and then they're trying Greg gave up.
Speaker 2: I'm they are trying so hard to get people ready
Speaker 2: to understand what's about to happen, and especially their own
Speaker 2: government refuses to amplify the message you're trying to send
Speaker 2: and leading to the government and the President played by
Speaker 2: Meryl Streep and the Henchman played by Jonah Hill starting
Speaker 2: at catch race.
Speaker 1: Don't even look up, don't look up. Everything's fine.
Speaker 2: By the way, spoiler alert pause, it hits and the
Speaker 2: world ends.
Speaker 1: That's how it ends. Okay.
Speaker 2: That's how I feel as a Jets fan entering Sunday
Speaker 2: Night football that the Jets and I know they went
Speaker 2: out and they got Trevor Simeon now and everything is
Speaker 2: well and good.
Speaker 1: But it's not. They've been telling us.
Speaker 2: They've been telling us as Jets fans and telling football fans,
Speaker 2: everything's fine, don't worry about it. Zach's not the problem.
Speaker 2: We support Zach Wilson. Sunday is going to be fine.
Speaker 2: The Chiefs at home and a big Prime Times that's fine.
Speaker 2: The slow Star, that's fine. There is not an issue here.
Speaker 5: It's like a way to go Brownie.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: So we're Leo here and we're Jen Lawrence, and we're
Speaker 2: trying to spread the gospel that no, not everything is
Speaker 2: fine at all. I am terrified about Jets Chiefs Sunday
Speaker 2: Night football because I do think this could be a
Speaker 2: potential disaster, asteroid level disaster for the Jets. I was
Speaker 2: texting with somebody who I respect more than anyone else
Speaker 2: when it comes to Jets history, Rich Semini of ESPN,
Speaker 2: just about what's been going on in the past week
Speaker 2: or so, and he kind of reminded me something that
Speaker 2: he wrote right the night of the Rogers injury. He said,
Speaker 2: the repercussions from the Rogers injury will be felt for
Speaker 2: years and will impact many lives. Sunday Night could be
Speaker 2: a rock bottom moment. That's what I'm scared about. And
Speaker 2: I'm not into Jet like misery porn. I don't want that.
Speaker 2: That's part of the thing that thinks about it. He
Speaker 2: just want to be positive. You wanted this year to
Speaker 2: be different. But everything is telling me, oh my god,
Speaker 2: duck and cover Sunday Night. And my brother Kevin has
Speaker 2: told me he got a free ticket to the game.
Speaker 2: Apparently back East, everybody's trying unload their tickets for this
Speaker 2: game and I was telling my brother, don't go to
Speaker 2: that game. Damn, don't do it, dude. It's it's gonna
Speaker 2: be really sad and really gnarly. That's my fear. I
Speaker 2: think a lot of people feel this way. Samiti also
Speaker 2: reported that he was told that there was a here's
Speaker 2: a quick rundown. Samini reports he was told that it
Speaker 2: was a hot topic in the locker room. Zach Wilson
Speaker 2: continued to start. Robert Sali repeatedly in press conferences threw
Speaker 2: his support behind Zach Wilson.
Speaker 1: Eric Roberts told me right before they started.
Speaker 2: In his media address today, he kind of pointed out
Speaker 2: it finally that Zach needs play better. We know Zach
Speaker 2: needs to play better. That's the first time you even
Speaker 2: really said that. Joe Namath, the most positive influence around
Speaker 2: the Jets forever, no matter how bad things are, Joe Namath,
Speaker 2: the most famous person around the Jets, finally broke bad
Speaker 2: and turned on the entire organization. In a interview on
Speaker 2: ESPN Radio, Michael Kay, here's just a quick portion.
Speaker 1: How can a coach make things better for Zack?
Speaker 2: How can a coach say the locker rooms together?
Speaker 1: How many teams have we been on are you telling
Speaker 1: me to earn some cats on the defensive side saying
Speaker 1: whoa man? I want the wrong with you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's not all harmony in the locker room, and
Speaker 2: if there is, they need.
Speaker 1: To get rid of the people.
Speaker 2: He's calling for Douglas and Solid to be fired and
Speaker 2: for the scorched Earth. Then you have Aaron Rodgers out
Speaker 2: in Malibu and we don't need it. Aaron doing the
Speaker 2: McAfee show and speaking of I would like to play
Speaker 2: you what Aaron Rodgers said, but we have a quick
Speaker 2: aside here.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and now it's time for the latest edition of
Speaker 8: the Media Landscape Report with host Dan Kansas.
Speaker 1: I would love to play you. Thank you, Eric.
Speaker 2: I would love to play you Aaron Rodgers on the
Speaker 2: Pat McAfee show.
Speaker 1: But it's essentially behind a paywall. Now.
Speaker 2: Oh, ESPN is charging a licensing fee for anything that
Speaker 2: comes out of that show.
Speaker 5: Yeh.
Speaker 2: You will not be hearing anything from the Pat mcaviee
Speaker 2: Show on this program going forward.
Speaker 1: And my take on.
Speaker 2: This is this is probably above McAfee and his people
Speaker 2: been on their show. Good, they do great. They started
Speaker 2: as like a grassroots show together. Now they're an ESPN
Speaker 2: isn't it good to have your show played on different
Speaker 2: formats throughout the country.
Speaker 4: I think it is above his head. It's like an
Speaker 4: ESPN NFL media issue.
Speaker 7: Charging and then not to make that money.
Speaker 4: Well, why are we not pained? Why are we where's
Speaker 4: the I mean, we're a multi billion dollar company. I
Speaker 4: asked the question what are we spending money on? Although
Speaker 4: I'm not supposed to ask that question, so I won't
Speaker 4: ask that question.
Speaker 1: And then there was a fun clip on Fox like
Speaker 1: we love you know, Terry Bradshaw. We love Terry Bradshaw,
Speaker 1: love him like he's He's like America's uncle. Right.
Speaker 2: He had an issue remembering Desmond Rider's name. Wanted to
Speaker 2: play that on this show, like one of the things
Speaker 2: I like about this show. So we talked about the
Speaker 2: media landscape in the NFL, not just the games. Can't
Speaker 2: play that either won't be cleared by Fox, And you know,
Speaker 2: I just want to say, you know, come on, that's
Speaker 2: why we have Terry on the show. He's he's kind
Speaker 2: of folksy and he stumbles sometimes, so let's have fun.
Speaker 2: Let's have fun together.
Speaker 7: Does some won't do Terry?
Speaker 1: That might be we might have to We've done it
Speaker 1: with Liev Schreiber.
Speaker 3: Right, I think the only repercussion is to never mention
Speaker 3: the Pat McFie show ever again. That'd be the only
Speaker 3: way to strike back. But Betty's making news.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it's Pat.
Speaker 3: I don't even thinks I'm saying. They're getting the pop anyways,
Speaker 3: without without the they're getting their cake and eating it too.
Speaker 1: All right, good up, good up.
Speaker 7: I'm worried about you on Sunday.
Speaker 2: Like I'm worried because I'm okay. It's like it's fine,
Speaker 2: Like I know what's coming, so you can't hurt me.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be miserable and it's gonna be ugly. And
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers from Malbus telling the Jets from three thousand
Speaker 2: miles away to grow up and not point fingers, and
Speaker 2: it's like, we'll see the Chiefs are gonna roll once again.
Speaker 2: And it just to me, it's just gonna be How
Speaker 2: bad can it get? I do think this is the
Speaker 2: last time Zach Wilson ever starts a game.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's what I think.
Speaker 3: It does. Goes to show how meaningless talk is and
Speaker 3: even human behavior before actual games. Because Hard Knocks is
Speaker 3: pretty convincing that he's like this new guy. He's more confident.
Speaker 3: Every Romo, every person that he sits down with, the coaches,
Speaker 3: they're all convinced he's playing with a new confidence. But
Speaker 3: then he gets out on the field and he doesn't
Speaker 3: play with the new confidence. He plays with no confidence.
Speaker 3: He just holds the ball forever. I know it's against Belichick,
Speaker 3: but like, none of that translated. All of it was
Speaker 3: just talk to fill airtime, and you don't really know
Speaker 3: until the ball snapped, and now he can.
Speaker 7: In short, everything is a lie.
Speaker 3: You know what, you know what I'm curious about, and
Speaker 3: let me know what you think, Dan, I don't want
Speaker 3: you to be offended by this. I do wonder if
Speaker 3: the Jets defense is good enough. They're definitely not good
Speaker 3: enough for this situation, but are they good enough in general? Like,
Speaker 3: what's the better defense in this game? Is it the
Speaker 3: Chiefs or the Jets? So far, the numbers would tell
Speaker 3: you, you know, the Chiefs in three games. The Jets have
Speaker 3: been good, but they're seventeenth in DVA. I think that's misleading.
Speaker 3: But even just yards per drive, points per drive, they
Speaker 3: haven't been great. The Cowboys have played three games. The
Speaker 3: Cowboys offense clearly played their best against the Jets. As
Speaker 3: a as a Patriots fan, when I've got a chance
Speaker 3: to watch that game, it's like, look, the Jets finished
Speaker 3: that game being special and that that was the one
Speaker 3: time all year I really thought, And they finished out
Speaker 3: the Bills game, So they've had moments, not like they've
Speaker 3: been bad, but before that, I was thinking, wow, this
Speaker 3: is the best. You know, the Patriots moved the ball
Speaker 3: pretty well, you know, yards per play over three hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty yards. They're a pretty limited offense to be
Speaker 3: in with. I was like, Okay, this is pretty positive.
Speaker 3: They're they're moving the ball better against the Jets, certainly
Speaker 3: than against the Dolphins. The Jets are built around their defense,
Speaker 3: and there's a lot of reasons how Zach Wilson the
Speaker 3: offense affects the defense. But that was the first half
Speaker 3: of that game. And they've just been good and they
Speaker 3: got to be great and they haven't been great.
Speaker 4: Sauce Gardner's not been last year, Sauce Gardner on in
Speaker 4: every way, it's been a little bit different. But I
Speaker 4: really and I know there's this like a momentum doesn't exist.
Speaker 4: I hear you, Patrick Cleband, but like, uh, the one thing.
Speaker 4: I think we've been saying this for weeks.
Speaker 3: Like it's so funny how Patrick's and everyone said, because
Speaker 3: I did a show with Adam Rank this week and
Speaker 3: he's said the exact same thing that you have said before,
Speaker 3: and he's like, I could hear Claybot in my head
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 4: But I think moment I disagree because I here's why
Speaker 4: I disagree, because like we've been talking about the Fisher
Speaker 4: in the locker room for a long time, and I
Speaker 4: think it's like you can take the hope out of
Speaker 4: a side of the ball, or they could be frustrated,
Speaker 4: or it's like does it affect like if you don't
Speaker 4: think you have a chance, Like do you spend a
Speaker 4: little bit less time watching film? Do you you kind
Speaker 4: of just hope you get through the season without injury.
Speaker 4: I mean, I trust these players care a ton, and
Speaker 4: they're not doing that yet. But if it's like your
Speaker 4: offense has scored ten or fewer points eleven times since
Speaker 4: twenty twenty one, the vast majority except for two of
Speaker 4: those have all been Zack Wilson's starts, and so it's like,
Speaker 4: I hate that this is happening to Zach Wilson, the person,
Speaker 4: the whole thing. It's like it's an organizational failure when
Speaker 4: you've spent more time with this player than anyone else,
Speaker 4: and you went in thinking that he could handle this.
Speaker 4: If anything happened to Aaron Rodgers at all, even if
Speaker 4: it was like two starts where you needed them, this
Speaker 4: was your self scouting, all right.
Speaker 2: And we all feel, I guess bad for Zach Wilson,
Speaker 2: but it's ultimately the organization.
Speaker 1: He should have never been back on them.
Speaker 2: He shouldn't be in this situation, and he is on
Speaker 2: the field and they won't give up. To answer your question, Greg, yeah,
Speaker 2: the defense has been good, more than great. I mean,
Speaker 2: they give up sixteen points to Josh Allen and the Bills,
Speaker 2: they give up fifteen points or thirteen points to the Patriots,
Speaker 2: or's a safety in there.
Speaker 1: So it's been good.
Speaker 2: But like the pass rush hasn't gotten home as much
Speaker 2: as I thought it would. And also it's like I
Speaker 2: don't think the coaching has been good for this team.
Speaker 2: I think that Hackets been a little bit lost in
Speaker 2: the woods with Wilson. They're not using guys like me
Speaker 2: Cale Hardman at all. They're not They're not getting they're
Speaker 2: running the ball too much early, like Tony Romo screaming
Speaker 2: passed the ball on first down.
Speaker 1: You got to mix things up, and I think.
Speaker 2: Solid like, let's mix in some blitzes, let's get after
Speaker 2: mac Jones a little bit. They're just leaning on that
Speaker 2: four men pass rush and the books out get the
Speaker 2: ball out quickly against the Jets pass rush.
Speaker 3: This is another gut yarded that is better at getting
Speaker 3: the ball out quickly now than anything.
Speaker 2: And then the Chief side, Yeah, I think they're set
Speaker 2: up really well. I think they the way they uh
Speaker 2: the schedule worked out for them last week is a
Speaker 2: cakewalk against the Bears. I think they get the Jets
Speaker 2: at a perfect time. Obviously, the biggest drama around them
Speaker 2: is Taylor Swift gonna be at MetLife Stadium.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what else like she will
Speaker 1: worry about.
Speaker 5: I think so do Travis Kelcey Jerseys.
Speaker 4: The sales on those rows four that tells you they
Speaker 4: have a whole new group of people that care about
Speaker 4: the Chiefs.
Speaker 5: Now, that's kind.
Speaker 2: I listened to the New Heights podcast today, You and
Speaker 2: so they and the world first time very good, excellent,
Speaker 2: have great chemistry.
Speaker 3: Our old producer, TD is their executive producer really kind
Speaker 3: of runs it.
Speaker 2: Really they actually, to TD's credit, I liked actually the
Speaker 2: production elements of it, the way they did camera cuts
Speaker 2: and everything was very very good. And Kelsey, uh told
Speaker 2: I talked about it like kind of jokingly, is this
Speaker 2: going to be a distraction. It absolutely is going to
Speaker 2: be a distraction of Travis Kelsey, he told me.
Speaker 1: He told me so.
Speaker 2: It's a parasocial relationships. Told us that paparazzi are staking
Speaker 2: him out outside his house now every time he leaves
Speaker 2: the house.
Speaker 7: Like, guys, I feel like this is a PR stunt.
Speaker 1: No, let's hold that thought. We're gonna get to that
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit.
Speaker 3: I do kind of I do quickly love this guest
Speaker 3: for the Chiefs offense who've been developing, and I don't
Speaker 3: think their issues are gone because they blew out the Bears.
Speaker 3: So when they have the ball, that to me is
Speaker 3: a very intriguing matchup because they're figuring out their receivers.
Speaker 3: But Mahomes has only taken one sack this year. It's
Speaker 3: like he's it's like he's Jordan's and he decided I'm
Speaker 3: going to turn in like I'm gonna work on this
Speaker 3: year not taking any sacks. I'm gonna be like Peyton
Speaker 3: Manning who just refused, didn't matter what is how I
Speaker 3: was off, just refuse to take a sack. And you
Speaker 3: got to see the run setting up the pass. He's
Speaker 3: been running more this year too, so it's been a
Speaker 3: little less different shaky tackle play too.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Oh my god, Jawan Taylor like the penalties. It's
Speaker 6: the region.
Speaker 1: He's got to figure that out. Are you okay?
Speaker 2: Because I know you said justin Herbert is Michael Jordan's
Speaker 2: now Greg's coming for.
Speaker 5: The completely a trait of Michael Jordan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the whole thing. We're going to add
Speaker 3: one move to the arsenal. I don't know how people.
Speaker 4: Giving up on major requests that mattered to the people
Speaker 4: around them, and you just took that England book and
Speaker 4: tossed it to the side.
Speaker 5: I don't know why you can't find where.
Speaker 3: We can do it later later it's for the show.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be uh, I'll find it for next show.
Speaker 3: But it was it was a one line. It wasn't
Speaker 3: anything that sticking point with me.
Speaker 2: Our podcast has never been mentioned, and any published book
Speaker 2: before this is huge.
Speaker 3: Thank you to uh ben I. Isaac's way more pub
Speaker 3: than he was expecting.
Speaker 2: Finally, Monday Night Football, the Giants are back in prime time.
Speaker 5: Why are they doing this New York, New York thing
Speaker 5: at home to again.
Speaker 2: Ratings because they're trying to make the most money because
Speaker 2: they thought Aaron Rodgers was going against Noatrick Mahoe.
Speaker 5: You're right, like it's in.
Speaker 1: The Giants are big eyes.
Speaker 5: But failed destiny.
Speaker 2: Here we go Seattle at the g men, Connie, your
Speaker 2: thoughts on, Oh my.
Speaker 7: God, the Seahawks. They're so hurt right now.
Speaker 6: I mean they came into the game against Carolina down
Speaker 6: two starters already. I mean there were two starters left
Speaker 6: that game, Trey Brown and Dramonte Jones. With that hip injury,
Speaker 6: they were already down seven starters, like they had their
Speaker 6: outside linebacker Darrell Taylor.
Speaker 7: He didn't finish the game.
Speaker 6: But hopefully they get Rieke Woolen back at cornerback. That
Speaker 6: would be huge. If Jamal Adams makes his season debut,
Speaker 6: that would also be nice on Monday Night Football, and
Speaker 6: then they have the week five by so they get
Speaker 6: some time to kind of get a little healthier and
Speaker 6: hopefully that'll help them. But the thing for me on offense,
Speaker 6: for them, they need to improve on third down like
Speaker 6: it's been It's been so bad to watch this offense
Speaker 6: and Gino Smith operate that way. I mean three of
Speaker 6: twelve on third down. I know that they put up
Speaker 6: thirty seven points, but still that's like not going to
Speaker 6: hold up against better teams.
Speaker 4: I think this is a good matchup for them though,
Speaker 4: even though they are missing guys. You're the Giants have
Speaker 4: PFF thirty AETH rank defense. Our friend Kevon Thibodeau spin
Speaker 4: them a no show this season. They cannot rush the passer.
Speaker 4: They're they're banged up all over the place too, and
Speaker 4: it does help though. I mean, I think there's a
Speaker 4: chance you get Saquon Barkley, a chance, I would say
Speaker 4: probably not. But Andrew sounds like Andrew Thomas is coming back.
Speaker 1: Really, he's day to day.
Speaker 5: Day to day.
Speaker 3: I mean, they said he had a chance to play
Speaker 3: last right, but that.
Speaker 5: Sounded like that.
Speaker 6: He told Taylor Rooks that he's dealing with a high
Speaker 6: ankle sprain. Yeah, so I don't know.
Speaker 4: I have no idea, but any Andrew Thomas back would
Speaker 4: be big, Like they need that for their line it's
Speaker 4: been a shambles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Seattle's run defense is much improved, and I think
Speaker 2: that's something you're seeing one of the big difference between
Speaker 2: last year and this year. So even if Saquon plays,
Speaker 2: I don't think the ball they're moving the ball on
Speaker 2: the ground the Giants, Matt Rita is not gonna move
Speaker 2: the needle on that point. This game is not being
Speaker 2: played in Seattle, but I just want to give it
Speaker 2: a shout out because we've got a lot of Seahawks
Speaker 2: fans a listener to the show. Shout out to you guys,
Speaker 2: especially you guys at lumin Field eight. Yeah, false star
Speaker 2: penalties for the Panthers in the and that game.
Speaker 1: That was a special energy at that game watching it.
Speaker 2: They had the twenty thirteen Seahawks there and a bunch
Speaker 2: of those dudes are there and lead you to boom.
Speaker 2: And they're guys giving pregame speeches and all this stuff,
Speaker 2: and that reminded me. I got some flashbacks. I remember
Speaker 2: being at the opening kickoff game following the Super Bowl win.
Speaker 2: It was Packers Seahawks Thursday night, and I'd never seen
Speaker 2: a city so completely aligned with their team. Just walking
Speaker 2: through Seattle's a beautiful Thursday morning. I remember and just
Speaker 2: walking around had never been to Seattle before, and everyone's
Speaker 2: wearing Seahawks jerseys. Everybody's a member of the twelves. And
Speaker 2: when that building gets hyped up, that is you know,
Speaker 2: get a home game Seahawks, because I.
Speaker 1: Feel like you did dance.
Speaker 6: That was my favorite. One of my favorite cities to
Speaker 6: go to for Thursday night football was Seattle.
Speaker 7: That place.
Speaker 6: It really there and Arrowhead were really legitimately two of
Speaker 6: the loudest places where you feel your whole body almost
Speaker 6: like it feels like you're having an out of body experience,
Speaker 6: like your brain is vibrating when you're there because of
Speaker 6: like the speakers and everything. The music is so loud,
Speaker 6: like you can feel the building and ground underneath your
Speaker 6: feet actually shaking.
Speaker 2: Un Fortunately, this game is in the big sardine can
Speaker 2: in the metal well.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe yeah, that to show up a little for
Speaker 3: this one. There's a lot of transplants that would be nice.
Speaker 3: I want to see if they're defensive line, which really
Speaker 3: dominate against Carolina, but it was Carolina has some stain
Speaker 3: power because they were very quiet the first two weeks,
Speaker 3: very good in that game. John Reid kind of turned
Speaker 3: the clock back and and if Rik Willen is back.
Speaker 3: And then Devin Witherspon, who I mentioned was kind of
Speaker 3: the main character of the week before, and there was
Speaker 3: some good and a lot of bad. But man, there
Speaker 3: was a lot of good in his second week. He
Speaker 3: he is a dog out there. He's a very entertaining
Speaker 3: cornerback to watch. Jamal Adams might be returning for this game.
Speaker 3: And then you got Gino in the Ultimate revenge game.
Speaker 3: I mean, you want to talk revenge game. Oh, he
Speaker 3: finally gets a chance out of the storyline. Fiver six
Speaker 3: years on the bench, Let's let's put him in. He
Speaker 3: has a solid start, but oh no, the ownership can't
Speaker 3: bear for Eli Manning to sit out anymore. And they
Speaker 3: make what's his name with the funny haircut their head coach.
Speaker 1: Come on, I know it. I know it too.
Speaker 3: Ben ben Back the only man who believed it. You know,
Speaker 3: they made a bench you know, then they fired him
Speaker 3: and then they ended up sticking with Eli for a
Speaker 3: year and a half.
Speaker 1: Why are you talk about this, Gregg?
Speaker 3: Yeah, My point is Gino, it's got to go there
Speaker 3: against a defense that has two sacks in the season,
Speaker 3: no turnovers.
Speaker 1: Good and I know they're an underdog in this game.
Speaker 3: Gino Smith is down an underdog. Let's lock it up.
Speaker 2: Good luck good I like your locking with your heart,
Speaker 2: which is not You're usually more clinical than that. But
Speaker 2: why because you hate the Giants more than anything in
Speaker 2: the world. You wouldn't want, you know, Renaissance to be
Speaker 2: happening in Jersey. It's that's the way it worked out.
Speaker 2: Everything worked out, that's true.
Speaker 5: OOKI is more Jetsanks than Giants.
Speaker 7: I almost forgot that he was on the Giants for
Speaker 7: that one.
Speaker 1: Greg is very big on that one star.
Speaker 3: Well, that start was kind of crazy. I mean, not
Speaker 3: that he was amazing, but he didn't like ball out
Speaker 3: ownership made the like essentially ended the coach's career by saying,
Speaker 3: you have to play Eli. I understand it, use all
Speaker 3: the time stunk right, But the talk radio guys were like.
Speaker 3: The talk radio guys were like, how dare you do this?
Speaker 3: I'm going to make you play Eli And then they
Speaker 3: fired the Coach.
Speaker 5: Show for a number of episode in a row.
Speaker 4: We got into like arguments as a group over the
Speaker 4: whole Eli Manning thing. And you and I think that
Speaker 4: you were not seeing it from this the viewpoint of
Speaker 4: the typical New York fan that had a relationship with
Speaker 4: Eli Manning and the organization that was like so loyal
Speaker 4: to miss pretty much a New York thing.
Speaker 2: I thought that was that And this is diffic and
Speaker 2: the saxt important figure in the history of Giants football,
Speaker 2: Eli Manning.
Speaker 1: You view him as like West was similar.
Speaker 2: It's like there was nothing personal about There was no
Speaker 2: it was just the data points and the study of
Speaker 2: the film says that he's not a very good quarterback,
Speaker 2: but he was so much more to that team and
Speaker 2: the idea of benching him and ending his consecutive game
Speaker 2: star streak for a at that point, Gino was, you know,
Speaker 2: a journeyman that didn't sit right with the fans or ownership.
Speaker 3: And in fairness, they actually played last year. We did
Speaker 3: this whole story line. Then the Seahawks rolled and Gino
Speaker 3: went out of his way to say exactly what you
Speaker 3: said the opposite, that he was treated great, that that
Speaker 3: Macadow believed in him, and he was he loved his time.
Speaker 1: Are continuing this narrative.
Speaker 2: This is how the by the way, this is how
Speaker 2: the game has won for you, Greg and you get
Speaker 2: the lock because man Ken Walker and Zach Sharbonay, one
Speaker 2: guy's breaking ankles.
Speaker 1: The other the guy's breaking sternams. That's a nice combo.
Speaker 5: That's nice.
Speaker 1: That poor Franklin kid still tumbling through the universe.
Speaker 2: All right, speaking of the box, let's take a break
Speaker 2: and then we will look what's.
Speaker 3: In the box?
Speaker 2: All Right, we're back again. Uh, this is giving a
Speaker 2: lot of consternation. There's a lot of trepidation. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of dations here. What's in the box? And you, guys,
Speaker 2: we're gonna pass the box around. You're gonna take something
Speaker 2: out of the box, and your job is kind of
Speaker 2: just talk your talk yourself through it.
Speaker 1: If it's a positive thing, if it's a happy thing in.
Speaker 2: The box, we could talk about that obviously, and that's great,
Speaker 2: but you might get something really terrible in the box?
Speaker 5: Are we Is it like a charades thing where we're
Speaker 5: not telling you what it is or no, you're.
Speaker 1: Gonna share it with us.
Speaker 2: And then your job our job, because I think it's
Speaker 2: important to try to be positive people in the world.
Speaker 2: We're making a large audience. Try to spin it, okay
Speaker 2: if you can.
Speaker 3: Okay, Mark Sessler about that the first person on this
Speaker 3: very new thing I'm excited.
Speaker 1: What's in a box? Alright?
Speaker 3: You read from seven?
Speaker 5: Is it?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Is that Mills?
Speaker 1: All right? From the sequel eight? Nailed it?
Speaker 5: Hey, you here is playing halftime at Super Bowl? Who usher?
Speaker 5: Oh okay, hmmm.
Speaker 4: I'll spin it in the sense that, like, yeah, this
Speaker 4: is totally appropriate individual to play the halftime. I'm not
Speaker 4: a huge usher person on any level, so it's not
Speaker 4: like I'm super disappointed that he's playing for someone else.
Speaker 4: Every time I've been to the Super Bowl, I think
Speaker 4: Wes and I sort of held hands in the concept
Speaker 4: of like, eh, maybe paying attention to this or not.
Speaker 4: But I started to learn more and more that the
Speaker 4: halftime show was incredible.
Speaker 1: But you were holding hands not paying it.
Speaker 5: On the topic of.
Speaker 4: Like like like you know, like I because you would
Speaker 4: go Dan, you go out, and like I always watch
Speaker 4: pay close attention to it to matter to you, I
Speaker 4: would say, I can't claim as much intrinsic interest in
Speaker 4: some of the guests. This would be on the like
Speaker 4: Beyonce was amazing, so come surprise me like I want
Speaker 4: and now I'm gonna give more attention to it, and
Speaker 4: uh to go in totally open mind. You know how
Speaker 4: many super Bowls you get to go to and so
Speaker 4: I'm all for it.
Speaker 6: Usure played a huge role in my life growing up.
Speaker 6: I love us H G R R, A, Y M
Speaker 6: O and d M. Come on, you remember that song?
Speaker 6: I can no, I don't now, baby, tell me what
Speaker 6: you want to do with me?
Speaker 7: Mob on Ava?
Speaker 3: You know what did you did? You figure skate to this?
Speaker 3: Why was he such a big part of your life?
Speaker 6: Because I always listened to him. But he's also a
Speaker 6: really good performer. I will say that, like, even if
Speaker 6: he has not dropped a song, a new song, while
Speaker 6: you do well in this she puts on a great show.
Speaker 6: So I have no doubts about that.
Speaker 3: You said you're a fit, you're a legit fan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I liked it.
Speaker 3: I'm saying so when I brought this up because Emica,
Speaker 3: my betrothed betrothed is going to the super Bowl this year.
Speaker 5: For truth, it's betrothed, betrothed.
Speaker 3: You never said that, Troth. It's good to say, be Troth.
Speaker 5: It's his wife. He can say it as he wants to.
Speaker 3: Good to say new words out loud for the first
Speaker 3: time at this advanced stage. I definitely never said that. Uh,
Speaker 3: she was excited about this now. It wasn't like Beyonce
Speaker 3: or Rihanna or anything where she would have gone nuts
Speaker 3: and was you know, a little jealous that she wasn't
Speaker 3: there for the Rihanna year and it was her dad.
Speaker 3: It's been quite a while. I don't think she's been
Speaker 3: to a super Bowl since the New York one. But Usher,
Speaker 3: it was kind of like, Okay, that works good. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like check in the box. And what you said
Speaker 3: is like as pop stars go, and I'm not really
Speaker 3: one to judge, but from people I trust. If you're
Speaker 3: just talking dancing skills from a man who sings as
Speaker 3: a lead pop star, very nice, all time, great, right.
Speaker 7: At the top, right near to surprise people.
Speaker 2: Okay, good, you kind of got me sold. I think
Speaker 2: I think we have now moved. And it was kind
Speaker 2: of a little bit of a a sin. I thought
Speaker 2: that it took so long to start incorporating hip hop
Speaker 2: and R and B action into the halftime show until
Speaker 2: they totally exhausted the classic rock genre. I think now
Speaker 2: what they're doing is they are going through the essentially
Speaker 2: classic hip hop.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, doctor Dre two years ago.
Speaker 1: But that was awesome, I.
Speaker 3: Think to a certain audience.
Speaker 2: The one thing I'll say about Usher as we slide
Speaker 2: the box to Greg is we will get Little John
Speaker 2: on stage.
Speaker 5: And I'm gonna do Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's the anchor of the whole set.
Speaker 4: So he's also like seven or eight people in these
Speaker 4: acts anyway, So if it's if you're upset with Usher,
Speaker 4: there'll be seven or eight other people to please you.
Speaker 7: We'll take that rewinded back.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm wondering because, like you know, during super
Speaker 6: Bowl week and leading up to the super Bowl, we
Speaker 6: always play the songs on the shows, and I just
Speaker 6: like don't know how many songs are PG and to
Speaker 6: play hard?
Speaker 2: Yeah, shadowy League figures on the third floor. Why they
Speaker 2: were so reticent to go down this road?
Speaker 3: Right? Because you gotta you gotta play I can't wait.
Speaker 3: You gotta play Love in the club. But hey, some
Speaker 3: wild things going on?
Speaker 1: Wild?
Speaker 7: Okay, what's in the box?
Speaker 1: What's in the box?
Speaker 3: All right? What's good?
Speaker 1: Box?
Speaker 3: The Browns are allowing zero or negative yards on fifty
Speaker 3: three point seven percent of their plays. That is a
Speaker 3: totally preposterous stat It's almost hard to believe. I guess
Speaker 3: incomplete passes count as that, so that helps make it
Speaker 3: make sense. A little, but their level of dominance through
Speaker 3: three weeks, and yeah, there's no need to spin this
Speaker 3: rivals any three week stretch in terms of EPA, p P
Speaker 3: and whatnot that basically any defense has ever had. Certainly
Speaker 3: to start the season, I think it's the best since
Speaker 3: ninety nine, and just basically any three week stretch, it's
Speaker 3: hard to beat how the Browns are playing defense right now.
Speaker 3: And that's why I'm interested this week. That we'll get
Speaker 3: into it Thursday, but a better competition, I think in
Speaker 3: terms of the team they're playing.
Speaker 4: And I mean just to think of how dark times
Speaker 4: have been on that defense in general, and I can't
Speaker 4: really remember unless you go back to the Bill Belichick
Speaker 4: era decades ago in Cleveland, any players on that side
Speaker 4: of the ball having fun. In fact, the last couple
Speaker 4: of years, it was like a lot of grumbling about
Speaker 4: the coordinator, the scheme, you've got talent not being used correctly.
Speaker 4: And my mind goes to this play from Sunday against
Speaker 4: the Titans where the Titans, as Miles Garrett is moving
Speaker 4: around the field and he's moving all over the place.
Speaker 4: Now on that defense under Jim Schwartz, that they're just
Speaker 4: rotating two tight ends who were like dozy doing from
Speaker 4: one side of the formation to the.
Speaker 5: Next to try to cover Miles Garrett.
Speaker 4: And finally it just ended in a delay of game
Speaker 4: or something like that, and Jim Schwartz on the sideline
Speaker 4: is just sitting there chuckling his head off.
Speaker 7: Lapping and like Rabel, it's like rubbing his eye.
Speaker 4: This has not happened in Cleveland in a long time,
Speaker 4: so you don't have to spin it too hard.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Tom Schwartz is like, I think, the perfect coordinator
Speaker 6: for that defense.
Speaker 7: Miles Garrett looks so good.
Speaker 6: But that play and then after they came back, Miles
Speaker 6: Garrett ended up getting the sack anyway, on that play.
Speaker 7: It was great.
Speaker 3: Isn't it your turn Schwartz for president?
Speaker 5: I mean, we know he's got coordinator of the year.
Speaker 3: He's got he's got Mark feel and a fletter connection
Speaker 3: to the nineties.
Speaker 7: Okay, great, what's in the box?
Speaker 1: You could take the girl out a Philo.
Speaker 6: Vance Joseph's Sunday night meeting with Sean Peyton.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, it's spin a blondie.
Speaker 7: You know what?
Speaker 6: Sometimes the what is it, the strongest steel goes through
Speaker 6: the hottest fire, and this is a come to Jesus moment,
Speaker 6: and it's nice that it happened this early in the
Speaker 6: season for these two. Having some quality time together will
Speaker 6: hopefully help them kind of get through some of the
Speaker 6: blocks that they're having. But allowing seventy points for Vance Joseph,
Speaker 6: it's not great.
Speaker 1: Forget about Zach Wilson feeling bad for him.
Speaker 2: Did you see some of those sideline shots of Vance
Speaker 2: Joseph as that game was going on.
Speaker 3: It's ugly.
Speaker 7: How do you spend that positive?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's not just seventy against the Dolphins and
Speaker 3: ruining in Sean Payton's mind his return to the sideline
Speaker 3: and embarrassing him, I mean thirty two points in the
Speaker 3: last three quarters against the Commanders. Also in retrospect, great,
Speaker 3: that's pretty tough when you're giving up a monster lead
Speaker 3: to the Commanders. I do think Sean Payton will be
Speaker 3: like extra icy because he's making him look bad.
Speaker 4: It's a really weird situation because this doesn't happen that
Speaker 4: much in the NFL at all, where like he was
Speaker 4: a failed Broncos head coach, negative memories and energy around
Speaker 4: that regime and that time you come back as a
Speaker 4: defensive coordinator was kind of like touted like, hey, this
Speaker 4: is great, like it's great to be back here, and
Speaker 4: it's like, no, you like four or five years later
Speaker 4: went back and dated like an x and realizing like
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks in, like, oh, I completely remember
Speaker 4: why I walked away from this whole situation. Now you're
Speaker 4: stuck in the middle of it. Greg called Sean Payton's
Speaker 4: career over after the failed on side kick to open
Speaker 4: Week one, and you know what, it's pretty good about
Speaker 4: what Greg said. Not for Sean Payton, but for Greg.
Speaker 2: I thought it was over when Kevin James played him
Speaker 2: in a bio pick. It was like, it's kind of
Speaker 2: there's no coming back from that.
Speaker 3: I thought it was over when John Elway passed them
Speaker 3: Josh Allen, that was a big.
Speaker 1: Tough ye by the way, they get just like you, John.
Speaker 2: Come on, they get the Bears at Soldier Field, they
Speaker 2: don't win that game. Oh and then they don't beat
Speaker 2: in a Trevor Simeon revenge game the Jets in Week five.
Speaker 1: Then they go to listen to the next three games.
Speaker 3: No, no, it's a path to two and three. Though,
Speaker 3: to be fair, that's who you'd kind of are a schedule.
Speaker 2: On the flip side, Yeah, they could go on five
Speaker 2: at Kansas on a short week. There's in a football
Speaker 2: home against Green Bay, home against Kansas City again, god
Speaker 2: bye week at Buffalo, they could get gnarly, that's all.
Speaker 5: But Daniel Hackett is eleven and I think.
Speaker 1: Vance Joseph could be the guy who pays for it.
Speaker 5: If Yeah, but think you want to be a part
Speaker 5: of it.
Speaker 2: You got to win one of these next two games.
Speaker 2: You have to or we're talking that way.
Speaker 3: Those ultimately you can't bears the awkward.
Speaker 5: That flight home was quiet for everyone.
Speaker 3: And you know, I saw one of the ESPN shows
Speaker 3: are the big splash headline like who's the Who's that? Blame?
Speaker 3: Sean Payton or Russell Wilson, And I'm.
Speaker 7: Like everybody, Russell Wilson didn't play that.
Speaker 3: I was like, actually, I think Russ had his best
Speaker 3: game in a while. I mean, it is a problem
Speaker 3: that he's like one of the highest paid quarterbacks in
Speaker 3: the league and everything they gave up for him, and
Speaker 3: you're just hoping he's a better than Yeah, this is
Speaker 3: not about.
Speaker 5: Us, Harvey, just keep pointing the finger at Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: What was that Russ let's go.
Speaker 3: Let's ride baby.
Speaker 1: All right, here we go.
Speaker 3: Oh, what's in the box?
Speaker 1: All right, this one?
Speaker 2: Actually I have the right to pass one, and I
Speaker 2: will pass it.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, you have the right to yes, the right
Speaker 3: when you make up the games, he can do whatever
Speaker 3: you want.
Speaker 6: Current biological status of Tank the dog, Well, where is Tank?
Speaker 7: Tank? I don't need to hear from Bridget right now.
Speaker 7: That's that's for certain.
Speaker 3: So Tank the dog again is the one that, Yes, if.
Speaker 6: You're not familiar, Tank is the one that attacked me
Speaker 6: on Day the dog.
Speaker 7: Of course, Bridget's worried about the dog.
Speaker 1: You I forgot about that.
Speaker 6: You know what, I will never Tank has left his
Speaker 6: mark on me forever, and these scars they will fade,
Speaker 6: but they will always be there. And I actually have
Speaker 6: no idea if Tank is alive or what is his
Speaker 6: current biological status.
Speaker 7: He's with Bridget, maybe you're.
Speaker 3: Your friend with his owner or former owner.
Speaker 7: It's John's family.
Speaker 3: So you haven't followed that conversation.
Speaker 6: I have not asked about Tank, and Tank has not
Speaker 6: asked about me, so we just keep it that way.
Speaker 6: It's I don't know if you've hung out with Italians,
Speaker 6: but you just if there's an issue, you just lock.
Speaker 3: It away, bottle it up.
Speaker 1: It's over there now.
Speaker 3: I mean, because if I'm you and I find out
Speaker 3: four years from now, oh yeah, you know, Barb, Barb
Speaker 3: and Joe aren't coming tonight, but they had to stay home.
Speaker 3: They didn't want to be awkward because you know, they're
Speaker 3: they're watching Tank who's still there. I'd feel I'd feel
Speaker 3: a little way about how how many many feels about this.
Speaker 1: Forgetting the whole story from Colleen, and it's her personal life.
Speaker 2: She doesn't need to share the whole story, right if
Speaker 2: she truly doesn't know what's going on, that's a diplomatic play.
Speaker 1: It's your husband's family. It's a tough spot.
Speaker 7: I'm bowing out.
Speaker 1: Yep, it's a toughie. It was a tough Christmas, it was.
Speaker 1: But I think, you know, yes.
Speaker 7: I don't. I actually have no idea.
Speaker 1: He gone would be good, that'd be good.
Speaker 3: No for you, not for you.
Speaker 2: Terrible situation. I don't know why Bridget seems to make
Speaker 2: light of it. She's a Roman unplugged that ring, you know.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's very unbringing.
Speaker 3: One of those AI women that just don't like other
Speaker 3: women in the room.
Speaker 1: Yes, right.
Speaker 2: Uh, you know what, as Taylor said, like we all
Speaker 2: can wear our crowns, all right, Bridget put that in
Speaker 2: their system.
Speaker 4: I mean, this is not as one related one that
Speaker 4: I pulled out of the box.
Speaker 5: Why am I getting these strange ones?
Speaker 4: I don't know race for the GOP nomination ahead of
Speaker 4: the twenty twenty four presidential election. Spin this positively. It
Speaker 4: is possible. God, it is possible that.
Speaker 1: It was a tough bull.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like the don't look up situation, It's possible that
Speaker 4: some sort of interstellar debris that you know that sounds
Speaker 4: small would actually be like the half the size of
Speaker 4: Earth lands directly on the United States of America and.
Speaker 5: We don't have to deal with any of it.
Speaker 4: I might not get there, like you don't have to
Speaker 4: deal with what seems like a very murky, unattractive Nettlesoen problem.
Speaker 4: We've led decent lives up to now, and then bang
Speaker 4: it's over and we're all in some sort of like
Speaker 4: cosmic dream land and we don't kind of a best
Speaker 4: case scenario, That's how I'd spin it positively, is like
Speaker 4: another like world event that would take place, right, we
Speaker 4: don't have to go through.
Speaker 3: All this as it's coming to the ground. No one's
Speaker 3: worried about, Like, how come we couldn't get the tenth
Speaker 3: guy on the stage. Well he didn't have enough you know,
Speaker 3: percentage votes.
Speaker 6: It's like, shut up, we got moderating one of those debates.
Speaker 2: How about how about a little overhauled the electoral college?
Speaker 3: Yeah, what feels about that? That one is overnew But
Speaker 3: there's insane.
Speaker 1: Pin in that. Let's save that for the government podcast.
Speaker 1: There's a lot in this box.
Speaker 3: Panthers are winless and own their first round pick this isle.
Speaker 3: Say that again, the Panthers are winless and they don't
Speaker 3: own their first round.
Speaker 2: Well, that's a pretty dark pick like this. Oh God,
Speaker 2: speaking of the Bears. By the way, there's a chance
Speaker 2: the Bears pick one too. Yeah, own that pick. So
Speaker 2: Adam Rank might be in the tank right now, Adam tank,
Speaker 2: but he'll be flying if they pick one too.
Speaker 1: Well, they just need other people to pick them.
Speaker 5: See what they do with it.
Speaker 3: Well there, Yeah, there's a chance that the top four
Speaker 3: picks could be Cardinals Bears because the Cardinals own The
Speaker 3: Texans pick sloppy. Now, the Texans, I think might be
Speaker 3: too good for that.
Speaker 1: CJ.
Speaker 3: Stroud won't let it happen, but it's a tough situation,
Speaker 3: classic tough. I think it's a it's something we're supposed
Speaker 3: to spend positive though.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, so looking at their schedule here, because.
Speaker 3: When Andy Dalton comes out there and I don't see
Speaker 3: a lot of wins, no, looks a lot better than
Speaker 3: your number one overall draftic and the number two overall
Speaker 3: draft pick is balling out. Like, none of that feels good.
Speaker 3: But this was always gonna take time, I guess, would
Speaker 3: be my answer to that, Like, there was not many
Speaker 3: scenarios where Bryce Young was going to play extremely well
Speaker 3: with this group of receivers. It was a two year process.
Speaker 3: They were in a rough start this entire regime. The
Speaker 3: confusing part, though, was part of the regime was there
Speaker 3: before Scott Fitter of the GM. And that's where it
Speaker 3: always gets murky. I always say, start your GM and
Speaker 3: coach together.
Speaker 2: Three yeah, three weeks before thereby home against Minnesota. No
Speaker 2: gimme in Minnesota is a you know, dead animal walking game.
Speaker 3: Sure, but another winless team.
Speaker 2: You got a chance, right, but a team that easily
Speaker 2: could be three and oh if they had last year's luck.
Speaker 2: So they're not helpless at Detroit, tough at Miami, good
Speaker 2: night nurse. So you gotta win this week. Gotta win it,
Speaker 2: Gotta find a way.
Speaker 4: I could spin it positive for Frank Reich. Not fun
Speaker 4: if you go winless. But the owner is still paying
Speaker 4: like seven more years of Matt Rule's contracts. So uh,
Speaker 4: probably tough to get fired, so you'd live to see
Speaker 4: another season.
Speaker 3: I worry about Frank right because it does feel like,
Speaker 3: first of all, he's lost a lot of games in
Speaker 3: a row. Just you think about how the way the
Speaker 3: Colts ended. Yeah, and he always used to have so
Speaker 3: much energy, and it does feel like the light is
Speaker 3: a little out right now that it's it's just.
Speaker 5: A little tough for Tim say that though, like we're
Speaker 5: not there, We're not I died this with Bruce arians.
Speaker 3: No no, no no, I just no, no no no. I don't mean.
Speaker 3: I just mean, like the hootspa, the energy, Like I
Speaker 3: think it's wearing on him.
Speaker 1: He's got a big job. It's losing he has a
Speaker 1: huge like.
Speaker 7: Not a young guy either wants to make it through
Speaker 7: the seasons.
Speaker 3: Like someone around the building. You know, it's like you're
Speaker 3: scheduled for like ten shows. Maybe you don't have as
Speaker 3: much energy for that ten show. Frankreik's been through a
Speaker 3: lot of these games now without a break. He could
Speaker 3: have used the break.
Speaker 7: Maybe he took a hydroxyzeen last night.
Speaker 1: Just don't take two.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, I can only take a half.
Speaker 3: Art is a tiny box box.
Speaker 7: Okay.
Speaker 6: Taylor Swift is literally too famous to find enduring love
Speaker 6: at the stage of her life. So I would say,
Speaker 6: I know I have to spin this positive, but I
Speaker 6: have to say first that I don't truly believe any
Speaker 6: of this. I don't believe that Travis and her are dating.
Speaker 5: I feel like Michael Gift, Michael Scott Gift.
Speaker 6: It's a complete pr move. I just it feels like
Speaker 6: too much all at once. So I'm onto you, Taylor, Uh,
Speaker 6: But like, I don't know, I have no idea. Imagine
Speaker 6: trying to have a normal relationship when you are Taylor
Speaker 6: Swift and you're going on these international tours and everyone
Speaker 6: everyone loves you and worships the ground you walk on.
Speaker 6: Then how do you pivot into a personal relationship with someone.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's it's uneven to begin with that he's a fan
Speaker 3: going to the show and giving her the bracelets that's
Speaker 3: starting the relationship, even though he's a cute, great person
Speaker 3: in his own right, it's just starting with an imbalance
Speaker 3: that eventually might be The.
Speaker 1: Balances are never good at all.
Speaker 4: What is her balance like doing like a like a
Speaker 4: more romantic, still living, younger Michael Jackson, Like what, No,
Speaker 4: but maybe someone that there's always an imbalance though, yeah,
Speaker 4: she always is, that's the point. But he can handle
Speaker 4: it though, Like if it's real, Okay, if it's real.
Speaker 4: It's like Travis Kelcey isn't sitting around pouting about the
Speaker 4: fact that she's more renowned than he is, Like she's
Speaker 4: like her, Yeah all right, but.
Speaker 7: I mean it's not a bash.
Speaker 4: She also, I would say, like having watched like documentaries
Speaker 4: about her and stuff like behind the scenes, she seems
Speaker 4: like pretty down to earth to me, seems very nice
Speaker 4: asking her in her own fame, thinking she's so much
Speaker 4: better than Travis.
Speaker 3: She did produce those documentaries. It's just I do love
Speaker 3: he's worth point.
Speaker 5: I mean, all right, but I love.
Speaker 6: When like sports, when sports bros. Though, when like entertainment
Speaker 6: veers into sports, or like when new kind of appears
Speaker 6: in and people are in a different lane. I kind
Speaker 6: of love that for like the announcers and everything else,
Speaker 6: this is fun.
Speaker 4: Do you think that Travis Kelsey's mom, though, like who
Speaker 4: cares about her son as a son, not a famous
Speaker 4: football player, right, and they're very tight, that she would
Speaker 4: unless it was like, this is so good for you
Speaker 4: and everyone else, like they're hanging out and like they were.
Speaker 4: It seemed that kind of seemed real to me a
Speaker 4: little bit, right. Do you think the mom would be like,
Speaker 4: I'm really cool with my son having a fake relationship.
Speaker 7: Unless she's in on it.
Speaker 5: I mean that's saying like.
Speaker 4: That so exciting for her too, just a little next
Speaker 4: level if the mom is just like, but but you
Speaker 4: know what we're dealing with, like alter famous individuals, So.
Speaker 1: That's so fun for the mom.
Speaker 2: For Donna, like she's sitting watching her son and yeah,
Speaker 2: the most famous person in the world is next to
Speaker 2: her like that with her.
Speaker 4: Like, I don't know, I kind of maybe there's this
Speaker 4: part of me that wants to believe that it can
Speaker 4: be real and that yet I see where coming from
Speaker 4: with them.
Speaker 7: Maybe I should be lesson.
Speaker 5: No, I don't think I.
Speaker 4: Think you it's a healthy cynicism is fair in this situation,
Speaker 4: this one kind of is a repeat of conversation we
Speaker 4: ended up having.
Speaker 2: But I got just in Fields official Jersey Owners NFL
Speaker 2: shop retail price one nine ninety nine.
Speaker 1: That's pretty big investment. That would be work.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't buy.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't hold on that purchase.
Speaker 3: Mac Jones, it's looking like the QB two in that
Speaker 3: draft glass. Kyle Shannon was right, it's depressing.
Speaker 1: Uh this one. I like this one, but maybe we'll
Speaker 1: save it for Thursday. Wow, I kind of get going here.
Speaker 5: Okay, Oh we could do some box entries to fans.
Speaker 7: Just reading the rest of what he wrote in the box.
Speaker 1: Here you go. This is for you, Kylie. Also what
Speaker 1: I gave you a go and you've had a couple
Speaker 1: of toughies.
Speaker 5: I got an election question.
Speaker 6: According to Pro Football Focus, Jalen Carter is the highest
Speaker 6: greatest interior defensive lineman, third highest graded defender overall.
Speaker 7: He looks so good.
Speaker 6: The Eagles losing Javon Hargrave felt like such a terrible
Speaker 6: thing because he played so well for them last season.
Speaker 7: And he goes to the forty.
Speaker 6: Nine ers who were already still could be stacked defense
Speaker 6: and yes, but Howie Rosevean goes out and is able
Speaker 6: to draft Jalen Carter and the way that he started
Speaker 6: his rookie season, he looks incredible.
Speaker 5: I think Dan nailed it on Sunday.
Speaker 4: Why how were we At what point did we stop
Speaker 4: letting the Eagles just do this to the rest of.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, just start copying that they do.
Speaker 5: Do it before them. You got to do it before
Speaker 5: they get the chance.
Speaker 3: It's also a position that usually takes a while to
Speaker 3: get going, and he only played like twenty something snaps,
Speaker 3: so like they're able to rotate him in. But he's
Speaker 3: playing at a level where he'll get considered for it's
Speaker 3: very early, but for the Pro Bowl and whatnot, which
Speaker 3: has a rookie defensive tackle just doesn't happen unless you're
Speaker 3: Aaron Donald.
Speaker 2: And it should be said because we get on Seattle
Speaker 2: and other teams that passed on Carter here, like he
Speaker 2: had some very real issues going on off the field,
Speaker 2: and they'll run up to the draft that you know, understandably,
Speaker 2: some teams were nervous about it and didn't know what
Speaker 2: it meant for the bigger picture of this prospect that
Speaker 2: they were bringing in.
Speaker 1: And we still don't. We don't know what Jamen I.
Speaker 3: Think they were more nervous that he was not putting
Speaker 3: all he could into the pre draft process because he
Speaker 3: seemed understandably affected by that.
Speaker 2: But also some bad decision making that led to the
Speaker 2: incident in which people died. It was like a really
Speaker 2: tragic situation. And then and see to bring up Seattle
Speaker 2: again here, but they've made kind of a killing on
Speaker 2: banking on guys that have had issues and taking chances,
Speaker 2: and the Eagles took a kind of a calculated risk
Speaker 2: and so far it's like the biggest move of the draft.
Speaker 5: Seems like up Seattle's like Avenue too.
Speaker 2: That's why everyone said he was going there. It was
Speaker 2: like it made so much sense.
Speaker 3: And they needed it.
Speaker 7: But they needed it makes Howie Roseman look great.
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 1: That was what was in the box. I enjoyed that.
Speaker 1: I think we're good, we have fun.
Speaker 2: Anything else, Colleen, I want to get a shout out
Speaker 2: slash plug in for Connie. What speaking of the media minute,
Speaker 2: Amazon's doing fine.
Speaker 1: I want Connie.
Speaker 2: I want Connie on Thursday Night football, Amazon. That's what
Speaker 2: I want. But I don't get that. But what you
Speaker 2: do get is Connie an NFL network. So halftime pregame
Speaker 2: but not half pre game host show.
Speaker 7: Uh huh. It's actually super fun.
Speaker 6: We have MJD on the show and Michael Robinson, and
Speaker 6: then on site we have Mike Garafolo and Steve Smith
Speaker 6: and their maniac what a gang, and we have a
Speaker 6: great time.
Speaker 7: It's a really fun. Hang.
Speaker 1: Did you hear the end of the Sunday show when
Speaker 1: I made Steve Smith laugh?
Speaker 7: And then I have not I have not finished the
Speaker 7: Sunday show yet.
Speaker 1: Just I just wheeled around Greg right behind me.
Speaker 7: Huh.
Speaker 1: Bang gave my thumbs up.
Speaker 4: You're certain to hear about it from Steve Smith the
Speaker 4: next time that you and he, I.
Speaker 1: Will ask you about it.
Speaker 7: I will ask him on Thursday.
Speaker 2: I had him rolling. All right, anything else, let's go.
Speaker 2: We'll be back Thursday. Get out of here with NFL Plus,
Speaker 2: new NFL plus production coming up. There's they also two pods,
Speaker 2: the preview app and the tn F recap.
Speaker 1: How about that. We're doing our job. Eat the call.