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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast. Thanks Dan needs another nickname?

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Speaker 2: From the Chris Wesley podcast Studio. It's Around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I am the old Zeusser, Daddy Rich, tug Boat, the

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Speaker 2: old New blue Eyes VANSA sure that seems like enough personally.

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Speaker 3: Danzas is the only one you didn't give to yourself.

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Speaker 1: I kind of like that one. No, actually that's incorrect.

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Speaker 2: Big Daddy Rich was from Wes based on the Chuck

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Speaker 2: Daily book he read, So you're right, that you're right.

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Speaker 4: I thought Wes also was in the game of trying

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Speaker 4: to come up for monikers for you inside names.

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Speaker 2: He enjoyed that he did. Yeah, he did, and we

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Speaker 2: miss him. Colleen Wilson, Yeah, what's up? Greg Rosenthal? And

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Speaker 2: that's Mark Sssler.

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 3: Hello? Here she is, she's backs the Chris Westling podcast Studio.

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Speaker 1: I gotta say I'm a little.

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Speaker 5: Disappointed, not mad, just disappointed the listeners. Oh yeah, you

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Speaker 5: asked for something.

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Speaker 2: I made a request for new Connie theme music.

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Speaker 3: What came in and where is it?

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Speaker 2: I asked Eric Robert's our producer Eric, right before we

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Speaker 2: started any new submissions over in the ATM podcast at

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Speaker 2: gmail dot com.

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Speaker 3: Eric I did not see any.

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Speaker 5: Counterpoint.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I understand why you're a little mythed a little bit,

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Speaker 4: but what if fits the kind of thing where when

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Speaker 4: you go into your own you know, workspace or lab,

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Speaker 4: if you're the listener, you're just spending the right amount

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Speaker 4: of time.

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Speaker 5: To get okay, something genius versus something to It's been

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Speaker 5: a solid week.

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Speaker 6: But also I feel like there needs to be a

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Speaker 6: competition or there needs to be a prize to really drive.

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Speaker 7: People to do it.

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Speaker 1: You got one more?

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Speaker 3: I don't. I personally like that one. The acapella one.

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Speaker 1: Is play it again, Collie.

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Speaker 5: The Queen, The Queen a lot of.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Now I'm starting to feel uncomfortable and I'm like sweating

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Speaker 6: so too much?

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Speaker 7: This is maybe a lot.

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Speaker 3: I think that's your sleeping pill weary enough.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 6: It's like, listen, I haven't been sleeping very well last

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Speaker 6: couple of nights. I've been up and awake, like I

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Speaker 6: wake at one am and I can't fall back asleep

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Speaker 6: until five. So last night I took a Benadryll esque

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Speaker 6: pill called hydroxyzine.

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Speaker 1: Oh when did this ever go wrong? For people?

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Speaker 6: And I'm still coming out of it, not gonna lie,

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Speaker 6: but I did sleep last night, so that's good.

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Speaker 1: You look awake, thank you. At the very at the

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Speaker 6: I did, like, I'm really high.

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Speaker 4: I know that sleeping world, and I'll I remember a time.

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Speaker 4: Then at the combine, I mistakenly took like multiple Bena

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Speaker 4: drills that were sleep produce scene versus the one where

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Speaker 4: it's like we're gonna correct you, but you won't fall asleep.

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Speaker 4: It's like the second of eighteen press conferences. And I

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Speaker 4: was like, I'm dying. I'm like, I cannot stay awake.

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Speaker 4: I need someone to cart me away, call an ambulance

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Speaker 4: to get me a gun.

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Speaker 6: I didn't know that there's a non drowsy benadryl Oh yeah, really, huh?

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Speaker 7: I went, or you know, that's great.

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Speaker 2: I can't take any cough medicine without falling asleep instantly,

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Speaker 2: like it's it's.

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Speaker 1: It might as well be.

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Speaker 7: This is great information to know.

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Speaker 2: And I remember we went to the it's a rite

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Speaker 2: Twelve, and I was not feeling well and the whole

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Speaker 2: there was like twenty five thirty. Oh my god, and

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Speaker 2: of the show, I was head tilted back, snoring loudly

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Speaker 3: They didn't let me back in.

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Speaker 2: Until like the two thousand and twelve drafts. Good memories,

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Speaker 2: good memories, good security. Don't like drugs, they're just either.

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Speaker 7: But now we know how to drug you instantly. Yeah

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Speaker 7: that is great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right today, how you doing, Greg?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great.

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Speaker 2: It's just a little quiet today. What's going on? What's

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Speaker 2: going on in that brain, that big old brain of Greg?

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Speaker 1: Is it the box?

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Speaker 3: I think we've maybe reached the point where there's there's

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Speaker 3: two I'm sick of hearing myself what We've reached the

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Speaker 1: That's a problem.

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Speaker 7: My god, it's just week four.

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Speaker 1: That's a problem.

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Speaker 7: What is this mini coffin you have here?

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Speaker 2: You see the box? Is what you think it is?

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Speaker 2: This is not like a baby coffin or anything. This

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Speaker 1: Okay, well you're the one that called it a mini coffin.

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Speaker 1: What do you think you put in? A mini coffin?

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Speaker 4: Could be used for that, if it could be a

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Speaker 2: This is a box. It's a wooden box. I don't

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Speaker 2: know what is it. It's not oak?

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Speaker 1: Why? I think it's pretty cheap?

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Speaker 2: Would but inside the box is well, what's one of

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Speaker 2: your favorite films?

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler from the nineteen nineties.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I know you're referring to seven seven Brad Pitt,

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Speaker 2: From that particular film.

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Speaker 3: No, what's in a box?

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Speaker 1: There's not good stuff in this box?

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Speaker 7: Do we have to open it now?

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Speaker 1: It's not it's not Gwyneth Palshrow's head. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: But there's there's some ominous things in this box. And also,

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Speaker 2: good things in the box. Oh, so you're gonna pull

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Speaker 2: You're gonna pull things out of this box, and most

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Speaker 3: I mean, if there's ever a show to check out

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Speaker 6: The production value here is off the So we're pulling

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Speaker 2: Right out of the box. Hand in the box, pull

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Speaker 2: the previews. The prime time and a certain series of

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Speaker 2: games is beginning. International games begin this week, believe it

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Speaker 2: or not, Week four.

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Speaker 1: Let's start though on Thursday night.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, good one looking forward to this one. The

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Speaker 2: Detroit Lions two and one heading to Lambeau to face

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Speaker 2: the two and one Packers, both teams Greggi'm gonna get

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Speaker 2: Greggie back by talking ball. This will get your juices

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Speaker 2: Well, it was more like I asked kind of like

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Speaker 2: The Lions played very well I thought, especially on the

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Speaker 2: not gonna say legend, because you chances to get three

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Speaker 2: but it's the birth of a great storyline and a

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Speaker 2: great potential career for Jordan Love. So, two teams feeling

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Speaker 3: I'm excited that we might get to see something closer

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Speaker 3: I think it's a great coaching matchup, because I have

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Speaker 3: really noticed Matt Lafleur feelin himself. His two point conversion

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Speaker 3: I've seen the creativity in the play calls. You've seen

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Speaker 3: some wide open receivers for Jordan Love. Jordan Love's actually

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Speaker 3: been the least accurate quarterback in the entire NFL in

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Speaker 3: terms of throwing uncatchable balls. And that doesn't he either

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Speaker 2: He's fifty one for ninety six and it's a little

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Speaker 3: Right, and he makes great throws and I think he

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Speaker 3: makes good decisions, so the accuracy hasn't killed him. But

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Speaker 3: my point is, we got Luke Musgrave out there, a

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Speaker 3: rookie titles and Fine Jaden Reid, Dontevian Wis, and we

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Speaker 3: got guys running open against NFL defenses. That's Matt Lafleur.

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Speaker 3: He's really thrown some great shot plays every week. And

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Speaker 3: now he's going up against the Lions defense, which is

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Speaker 4: I think it's these two teams that for you, you know,

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Speaker 4: this is just you kind of are into teams, so

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Speaker 4: you're not you can't help it. The Lions a super

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Speaker 4: bar fest for me for like a decade plus and

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Speaker 4: the Packers sort of just the same thing. I'm now

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Speaker 4: like at a peak interest in both teams, and even

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Speaker 4: last year with like team of atl it's like, cool.

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Speaker 5: I'm with you kind of.

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Speaker 4: But now I'm like what I see in the last

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Speaker 4: couple of weeks that was they won me over.

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Speaker 5: No, It's like that's just true. It was like I

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Speaker 5: can't fake it.

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Speaker 2: You know, well, you you denied throughout the last half

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Speaker 2: of last season that you were faking it.

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Speaker 4: Well, the thing is like, I see where you're coming from.

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Speaker 4: But now now I feel a little bit different, and

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Speaker 4: I think it's like these are two teams that have

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Speaker 4: they're going through major transfer and like Brad Holmes to me,

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Speaker 4: like the Lions GM this draft class, Jamiir Gibbs, Jack Campbell,

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Speaker 4: Last year was Aiden Hutchinson On the Green Bay Packers side,

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Speaker 4: you got red like you mentioned Dobbs Musgrave. These are

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Speaker 5: It's like it's kind of just working out for both teams.

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Speaker 6: I can't wait for this game? Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 3: Sounds like Montgomery will play in Taylor Decker, their right

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Speaker 7: This injury report is insane.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so many people. Everybody's heart right now.

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Speaker 2: It feels like that the Lions offenses had, especially you

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Speaker 1: I kind of liked them in this game.

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Speaker 5: I didn't expect that to happen.

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Speaker 4: And you mentioned like Taylor Decker being back that takes

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Speaker 4: By the way, those line metrics are actually the attractiveness

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Speaker 1: If we get both physically attractive. Got it?

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Speaker 2: Right, Let's head to Sunday and it's not a primetime game,

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Speaker 3: We're at a third one Titans Ravens Ravens, how.

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Speaker 2: And the very excited for that. The first game is

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Speaker 7: And yeah, it's always such a mess.

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Speaker 5: It's not a Wi Fi thing.

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Speaker 1: I know here is.

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Speaker 2: Plus five is the ratio really to do it? And

443
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Speaker 2: that leads the league, so he is. He's kind of

444
00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,920
Speaker 2: surviving a little bit here by the rest of the

445
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,840
Speaker 2: team has played well and he's gotten pretty lucky. And

446
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Speaker 2: I'm just wondering how much longer this is gonna last

447
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 2: because because Arthur Smith, as we said, I haven't loved

448
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,880
Speaker 2: Arthur Smith away, he's been running this offense so far either,

449
00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,440
Speaker 2: and I'm wondering when he takes the keys away from Ritter.

450
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Speaker 1: And the problem with that is because you see this

451
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Speaker 1: with other teams.

452
00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,720
Speaker 2: If you go completely away from the quarterback, that makes

453
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,720
Speaker 2: your offense one dimensional, and then nobody wins that way either.

454
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,400
Speaker 2: You're kind of stuck in our league if your quarterback stinks,

455
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,160
Speaker 2: and who is their backup?

456
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Speaker 1: Who is what does plan be?

457
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,440
Speaker 2: And that's when if I'm a Falcons fan, if this

458
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,679
Speaker 2: isn't gonna work out, I'm mad because this team was

459
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 2: otherwise ready to make the leap, and you didn't really

460
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,440
Speaker 2: build in a backup plan.

461
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Speaker 1: So I'm still early. I would be curious behind a kid. Okay,

462
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 1: I wonder when we see him because.

463
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Speaker 3: They're too long one, they're two and one, because they're.

464
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 2: Still saying all the right things and he hasn't. Doesn't

465
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 2: seem like riders lost the locker room. You hear all

466
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 2: the guys saying, he's our dog. We're riding with him.

467
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 2: But let's see what happens if this continues.

468
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Speaker 7: Calvin Ridley Revenge Game.

469
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Speaker 3: Ah yeah, I am very curious how Ridley comes out

470
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 3: in this game. Ridley has been one of the biggest

471
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Speaker 3: reasons why the Jaguars have lost these two games. I mean,

472
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Speaker 3: he has beyond struggled four drops in the two games,

473
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,359
Speaker 3: a bunch of mental errors. The Jaguars are sort of

474
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 3: the opposite of Atlanta, whereas like their quarterback's playing well.

475
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Speaker 3: I think once you actually watch the games and everyone

476
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,639
Speaker 3: else is struggling, Like he's third in PFF grades and

477
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 3: they're twenty seventh in offensive EPA like per past and

478
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Speaker 3: third seems a little high to me, but I kind

479
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Speaker 3: of get it. And Ridley seems in his head like

480
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 3: Peterson had to talk to him. They're trying to like

481
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Speaker 3: run the offense through him and maybe he's not totally

482
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 3: ready for that. It's it's a weird situation. And now

483
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Speaker 3: you got the game against Land. I do want to

484
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,439
Speaker 3: mention I had this book sent to me by Ben Isaacs,

485
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 3: the American Football Revolution, Dan written fell in Love with

486
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Speaker 3: the NFL.

487
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 1: It's it's just a picture of us in the book.

488
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Speaker 3: We're actually and it's the hardcover. We're actually mentioned in

489
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Speaker 3: the book. But it reminds me because this game is at

490
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Speaker 3: Wenley hold On.

491
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Speaker 5: What does it say about us?

492
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Speaker 7: What's about Mark?

493
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Speaker 3: I think it's just like popular with how is this

494
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 3: not book actually a book like you could read?

495
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Speaker 2: You went out of your way to bring up the book, Greggy,

496
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Speaker 2: And we're in the book to give Ben Isaacs about us.

497
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Speaker 2: We're not even going to stop down. We're just gonna

498
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Speaker 2: all sit here silently until Greg finds us in the book.

499
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Speaker 3: I was gonna say how all the games used to

500
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Speaker 3: be at Wembley and now this is the only one that.

501
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Speaker 7: It's Trevor Lawrence's birthday too while they're over there.

502
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Speaker 4: So this is where he got is like to your point,

503
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:54,360
Speaker 4: Greg on Lawrence because he has four touchdowns and three interceptions,

504
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 4: over his last six games. But it's like a box

505
00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 4: score that lies because he is essentially like third in

506
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Speaker 4: the league on big time throws.

507
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Speaker 3: He's been fine, but his drop.

508
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 4: Rate is second in the in the NFL. Calvin Ridley

509
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 4: looked great in Week one. I thought it was like,

510
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,239
Speaker 4: this is gonna completely change their offense. And it's been

511
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 4: a ton of drops. They've had that stuff in the

512
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 4: end zone against the Chiefs, there was a sideline throw

513
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 4: that went awry. It's like he's getting Trevor Lawrence has

514
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 4: some bad luck with his white out so far.

515
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 3: Like they're trying to integrate Ingram and Kirk, like didn't

516
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 3: have any touches in the first half and then they're

517
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Speaker 3: you know, sometimes the.

518
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Speaker 1: Year right now. All right, So that's a good game.

519
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 2: Shout out to everybody in England and surrounding territories. Should

520
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 2: be a fun watch. And yes, we'll see you in

521
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks. One last thing, honey. Yeah, And

522
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 2: this is not a Connie thing. This is more like

523
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 2: our business type of thing. We throw around revenge game

524
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 2: pretty liberally, and like what revenge Like, what did the

525
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 2: Falcons do to Calvin Ridley? I mean he stepped away

526
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 2: from the team for mental health issues. That's not something

527
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 2: we're making fun of him joking about. But then he

528
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,439
Speaker 2: gambled on pro football and then got suspended for a year.

529
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Speaker 1: And then they were like, we got.

530
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Speaker 5: It's a gray area.

531
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Speaker 1: We got to kind of move on here.

532
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 7: This is a little all right, so we'll reboot it.

533
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,959
Speaker 7: We'll call it a connection game, all right.

534
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Speaker 2: Doesn't have the same but I understand same juice. If anything,

535
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 2: it could be. Nobody ever says that's a Falcons revenge

536
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 2: game like on Ridley put us in a tough spot.

537
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 7: That's true.

538
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 5: Stree team against player.

539
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Speaker 7: You guys, have you checked your passports?

540
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Speaker 1: By the way, I am, I'm good. I know what

541
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Speaker 1: you're saying.

542
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Speaker 3: I just got from ten years.

543
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, if it's expired, because mine was, so.

544
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Speaker 6: We went rama and I just just noticed it.

545
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Speaker 1: And you're leaving next Monday. See, I was in the

546
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: situation you got to do that.

547
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Speaker 5: I realized it's very stressful.

548
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 7: We're dealing with the State Department.

549
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Speaker 1: You're dealing with the State Department.

550
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 2: You're dealing dealing with a lot of bureaucracy, and you

551
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 2: got to cut through red tape.

552
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 1: Huh, And you gotta get on that airplane.

553
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I know.

554
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: I don't wish that upon you.

555
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 4: They get into that Colleen background check area, which he

556
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 4: gets Murky.

557
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 6: Were gon that they're going to find out about the

558
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 6: traffic school and a speeding ticket.

559
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 2: And why you left. You fled to Philadelphia for the

560
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 2: other side of the country. He started, there's some on

561
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Speaker 2: the limb.

562
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, some stories living in Mexico.

563
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Speaker 1: Now I put it that way. Put it that way,

564
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: all right.

565
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 2: Next Sunday night football, Oh my god, Oh my god.

566
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Speaker 1: Remember and Greg is looking he searched.

567
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 3: I haven't get about to give up.

568
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Speaker 7: They have like an index or you look like you're

569
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Speaker 7: really trying hard.

570
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 3: I'm scared. I'm popping the pages. What more you can

571
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Speaker 3: you do?

572
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 2: Do you remember the recent film directed by Adam McKay

573
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 2: Don't Look Up. Yeah, a little heavy handed, a lot

574
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 2: of stars in it, some good moments.

575
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 1: It's fine, Okay.

576
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 4: I liked it more than other people. Yeah, I kind

577
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 4: of did too, but it got railed by the like

578
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 4: the a.

579
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Speaker 2: Little bit, A little bit. I find it quite rewatchable.

580
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 2: Check it out. However, the movie is about these two

581
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 2: kind of low level astronomers who realize that there's a

582
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: comet heading for Earth and then they're trying Greg gave up.

583
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 2: I'm they are trying so hard to get people ready

584
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 2: to understand what's about to happen, and especially their own

585
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 2: government refuses to amplify the message you're trying to send

586
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 2: and leading to the government and the President played by

587
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 2: Meryl Streep and the Henchman played by Jonah Hill starting

588
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 2: at catch race.

589
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: Don't even look up, don't look up. Everything's fine.

590
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 2: By the way, spoiler alert pause, it hits and the

591
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 2: world ends.

592
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: That's how it ends. Okay.

593
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: That's how I feel as a Jets fan entering Sunday

594
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 2: Night football that the Jets and I know they went

595
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 2: out and they got Trevor Simeon now and everything is

596
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 2: well and good.

597
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 1: But it's not. They've been telling us.

598
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 2: They've been telling us as Jets fans and telling football fans,

599
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 2: everything's fine, don't worry about it. Zach's not the problem.

600
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 2: We support Zach Wilson. Sunday is going to be fine.

601
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 2: The Chiefs at home and a big Prime Times that's fine.

602
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 2: The slow Star, that's fine. There is not an issue here.

603
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 5: It's like a way to go Brownie.

604
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 1: Okay.

605
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 2: So we're Leo here and we're Jen Lawrence, and we're

606
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 2: trying to spread the gospel that no, not everything is

607
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 2: fine at all. I am terrified about Jets Chiefs Sunday

608
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 2: Night football because I do think this could be a

609
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 2: potential disaster, asteroid level disaster for the Jets. I was

610
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 2: texting with somebody who I respect more than anyone else

611
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 2: when it comes to Jets history, Rich Semini of ESPN,

612
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 2: just about what's been going on in the past week

613
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: or so, and he kind of reminded me something that

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00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 2: he wrote right the night of the Rogers injury. He said,

615
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 2: the repercussions from the Rogers injury will be felt for

616
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 2: years and will impact many lives. Sunday Night could be

617
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 2: a rock bottom moment. That's what I'm scared about. And

618
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 2: I'm not into Jet like misery porn. I don't want that.

619
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Speaker 2: That's part of the thing that thinks about it. He

620
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: just want to be positive. You wanted this year to

621
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 2: be different. But everything is telling me, oh my god,

622
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 2: duck and cover Sunday Night. And my brother Kevin has

623
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 2: told me he got a free ticket to the game.

624
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 2: Apparently back East, everybody's trying unload their tickets for this

625
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: game and I was telling my brother, don't go to

626
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 2: that game. Damn, don't do it, dude. It's it's gonna

627
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 2: be really sad and really gnarly. That's my fear. I

628
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 2: think a lot of people feel this way. Samiti also

629
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 2: reported that he was told that there was a here's

630
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 2: a quick rundown. Samini reports he was told that it

631
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 2: was a hot topic in the locker room. Zach Wilson

632
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 2: continued to start. Robert Sali repeatedly in press conferences threw

633
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: his support behind Zach Wilson.

634
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: Eric Roberts told me right before they started.

635
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 2: In his media address today, he kind of pointed out

636
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: it finally that Zach needs play better. We know Zach

637
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: needs to play better. That's the first time you even

638
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 2: really said that. Joe Namath, the most positive influence around

639
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 2: the Jets forever, no matter how bad things are, Joe Namath,

640
00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 2: the most famous person around the Jets, finally broke bad

641
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: and turned on the entire organization. In a interview on

642
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 2: ESPN Radio, Michael Kay, here's just a quick portion.

643
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: How can a coach make things better for Zack?

644
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: How can a coach say the locker rooms together?

645
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: How many teams have we been on are you telling

646
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: me to earn some cats on the defensive side saying

647
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: whoa man? I want the wrong with you?

648
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's not all harmony in the locker room, and

649
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: if there is, they need.

650
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:30,959
Speaker 1: To get rid of the people.

651
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 2: He's calling for Douglas and Solid to be fired and

652
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 2: for the scorched Earth. Then you have Aaron Rodgers out

653
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 2: in Malibu and we don't need it. Aaron doing the

654
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 2: McAfee show and speaking of I would like to play

655
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 2: you what Aaron Rodgers said, but we have a quick

656
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 2: aside here.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and now it's time for the latest edition of

658
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 8: the Media Landscape Report with host Dan Kansas.

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Speaker 1: I would love to play you. Thank you, Eric.

660
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: I would love to play you Aaron Rodgers on the

661
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 2: Pat McAfee show.

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00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: But it's essentially behind a paywall. Now.

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Speaker 2: Oh, ESPN is charging a licensing fee for anything that

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Speaker 2: comes out of that show.

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Speaker 5: Yeh.

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Speaker 2: You will not be hearing anything from the Pat mcaviee

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Speaker 2: Show on this program going forward.

668
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Speaker 1: And my take on.

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Speaker 2: This is this is probably above McAfee and his people

670
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Speaker 2: been on their show. Good, they do great. They started

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Speaker 2: as like a grassroots show together. Now they're an ESPN

672
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Speaker 2: isn't it good to have your show played on different

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Speaker 2: formats throughout the country.

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Speaker 4: I think it is above his head. It's like an

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Speaker 4: ESPN NFL media issue.

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Speaker 7: Charging and then not to make that money.

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Speaker 4: Well, why are we not pained? Why are we where's

678
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Speaker 4: the I mean, we're a multi billion dollar company. I

679
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Speaker 4: asked the question what are we spending money on? Although

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Speaker 4: I'm not supposed to ask that question, so I won't

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Speaker 4: ask that question.

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Speaker 1: And then there was a fun clip on Fox like

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Speaker 1: we love you know, Terry Bradshaw. We love Terry Bradshaw,

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Speaker 1: love him like he's He's like America's uncle. Right.

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Speaker 2: He had an issue remembering Desmond Rider's name. Wanted to

686
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Speaker 2: play that on this show, like one of the things

687
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Speaker 2: I like about this show. So we talked about the

688
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Speaker 2: media landscape in the NFL, not just the games. Can't

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Speaker 2: play that either won't be cleared by Fox, And you know,

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Speaker 2: I just want to say, you know, come on, that's

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Speaker 2: why we have Terry on the show. He's he's kind

692
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Speaker 2: of folksy and he stumbles sometimes, so let's have fun.

693
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Speaker 2: Let's have fun together.

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Speaker 7: Does some won't do Terry?

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Speaker 1: That might be we might have to We've done it

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Speaker 1: with Liev Schreiber.

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Speaker 3: Right, I think the only repercussion is to never mention

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Speaker 3: the Pat McFie show ever again. That'd be the only

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Speaker 3: way to strike back. But Betty's making news.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it's Pat.

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Speaker 3: I don't even thinks I'm saying. They're getting the pop anyways,

702
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Speaker 3: without without the they're getting their cake and eating it too.

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Speaker 1: All right, good up, good up.

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Speaker 7: I'm worried about you on Sunday.

705
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Speaker 2: Like I'm worried because I'm okay. It's like it's fine,

706
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: Like I know what's coming, so you can't hurt me.

707
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Speaker 2: It's gonna be miserable and it's gonna be ugly. And

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers from Malbus telling the Jets from three thousand

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Speaker 2: miles away to grow up and not point fingers, and

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Speaker 2: it's like, we'll see the Chiefs are gonna roll once again.

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Speaker 2: And it just to me, it's just gonna be How

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Speaker 2: bad can it get? I do think this is the

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Speaker 2: last time Zach Wilson ever starts a game.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's what I think.

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Speaker 3: It does. Goes to show how meaningless talk is and

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Speaker 3: even human behavior before actual games. Because Hard Knocks is

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Speaker 3: pretty convincing that he's like this new guy. He's more confident.

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Speaker 3: Every Romo, every person that he sits down with, the coaches,

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Speaker 3: they're all convinced he's playing with a new confidence. But

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Speaker 3: then he gets out on the field and he doesn't

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Speaker 3: play with the new confidence. He plays with no confidence.

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Speaker 3: He just holds the ball forever. I know it's against Belichick,

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Speaker 3: but like, none of that translated. All of it was

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Speaker 3: just talk to fill airtime, and you don't really know

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Speaker 3: until the ball snapped, and now he can.

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Speaker 7: In short, everything is a lie.

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Speaker 3: You know what, you know what I'm curious about, and

728
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Speaker 3: let me know what you think, Dan, I don't want

729
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Speaker 3: you to be offended by this. I do wonder if

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Speaker 3: the Jets defense is good enough. They're definitely not good

731
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Speaker 3: enough for this situation, but are they good enough in general? Like,

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Speaker 3: what's the better defense in this game? Is it the

733
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Speaker 3: Chiefs or the Jets? So far, the numbers would tell

734
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Speaker 3: you, you know, the Chiefs in three games. The Jets have

735
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Speaker 3: been good, but they're seventeenth in DVA. I think that's misleading.

736
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Speaker 3: But even just yards per drive, points per drive, they

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Speaker 3: haven't been great. The Cowboys have played three games. The

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Speaker 3: Cowboys offense clearly played their best against the Jets. As

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Speaker 3: a as a Patriots fan, when I've got a chance

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Speaker 3: to watch that game, it's like, look, the Jets finished

741
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Speaker 3: that game being special and that that was the one

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Speaker 3: time all year I really thought, And they finished out

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Speaker 3: the Bills game, So they've had moments, not like they've

744
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Speaker 3: been bad, but before that, I was thinking, wow, this

745
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Speaker 3: is the best. You know, the Patriots moved the ball

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Speaker 3: pretty well, you know, yards per play over three hundred

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Speaker 3: and fifty yards. They're a pretty limited offense to be

748
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Speaker 3: in with. I was like, Okay, this is pretty positive.

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Speaker 3: They're they're moving the ball better against the Jets, certainly

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Speaker 3: than against the Dolphins. The Jets are built around their defense,

751
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Speaker 3: and there's a lot of reasons how Zach Wilson the

752
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Speaker 3: offense affects the defense. But that was the first half

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Speaker 3: of that game. And they've just been good and they

754
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Speaker 3: got to be great and they haven't been great.

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Speaker 4: Sauce Gardner's not been last year, Sauce Gardner on in

756
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 4: every way, it's been a little bit different. But I

757
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Speaker 4: really and I know there's this like a momentum doesn't exist.

758
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Speaker 4: I hear you, Patrick Cleband, but like, uh, the one thing.

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Speaker 4: I think we've been saying this for weeks.

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Speaker 3: Like it's so funny how Patrick's and everyone said, because

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Speaker 3: I did a show with Adam Rank this week and

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Speaker 3: he's said the exact same thing that you have said before,

763
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Speaker 3: and he's like, I could hear Claybot in my head

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Speaker 3: right now.

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Speaker 4: But I think moment I disagree because I here's why

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Speaker 4: I disagree, because like we've been talking about the Fisher

767
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Speaker 4: in the locker room for a long time, and I

768
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Speaker 4: think it's like you can take the hope out of

769
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Speaker 4: a side of the ball, or they could be frustrated,

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Speaker 4: or it's like does it affect like if you don't

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Speaker 4: think you have a chance, Like do you spend a

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Speaker 4: little bit less time watching film? Do you you kind

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Speaker 4: of just hope you get through the season without injury.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I trust these players care a ton, and

775
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Speaker 4: they're not doing that yet. But if it's like your

776
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,479
Speaker 4: offense has scored ten or fewer points eleven times since

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty one, the vast majority except for two of

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Speaker 4: those have all been Zack Wilson's starts, and so it's like,

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Speaker 4: I hate that this is happening to Zach Wilson, the person,

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Speaker 4: the whole thing. It's like it's an organizational failure when

781
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,959
Speaker 4: you've spent more time with this player than anyone else,

782
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Speaker 4: and you went in thinking that he could handle this.

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Speaker 4: If anything happened to Aaron Rodgers at all, even if

784
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Speaker 4: it was like two starts where you needed them, this

785
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Speaker 4: was your self scouting, all right.

786
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Speaker 2: And we all feel, I guess bad for Zach Wilson,

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Speaker 2: but it's ultimately the organization.

788
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Speaker 1: He should have never been back on them.

789
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Speaker 2: He shouldn't be in this situation, and he is on

790
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Speaker 2: the field and they won't give up. To answer your question, Greg, yeah,

791
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Speaker 2: the defense has been good, more than great. I mean,

792
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Speaker 2: they give up sixteen points to Josh Allen and the Bills,

793
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 2: they give up fifteen points or thirteen points to the Patriots,

794
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 2: or's a safety in there.

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Speaker 1: So it's been good.

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Speaker 2: But like the pass rush hasn't gotten home as much

797
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Speaker 2: as I thought it would. And also it's like I

798
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: don't think the coaching has been good for this team.

799
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Speaker 2: I think that Hackets been a little bit lost in

800
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 2: the woods with Wilson. They're not using guys like me

801
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 2: Cale Hardman at all. They're not They're not getting they're

802
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 2: running the ball too much early, like Tony Romo screaming

803
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: passed the ball on first down.

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00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: You got to mix things up, and I think.

805
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,919
Speaker 2: Solid like, let's mix in some blitzes, let's get after

806
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 2: mac Jones a little bit. They're just leaning on that

807
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 2: four men pass rush and the books out get the

808
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 2: ball out quickly against the Jets pass rush.

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Speaker 3: This is another gut yarded that is better at getting

810
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 3: the ball out quickly now than anything.

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Speaker 2: And then the Chief side, Yeah, I think they're set

812
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: up really well. I think they the way they uh

813
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 2: the schedule worked out for them last week is a

814
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 2: cakewalk against the Bears. I think they get the Jets

815
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 2: at a perfect time. Obviously, the biggest drama around them

816
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 2: is Taylor Swift gonna be at MetLife Stadium.

817
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what else like she will

818
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Speaker 1: worry about.

819
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Speaker 5: I think so do Travis Kelcey Jerseys.

820
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 4: The sales on those rows four that tells you they

821
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 4: have a whole new group of people that care about

822
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Speaker 4: the Chiefs.

823
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 5: Now, that's kind.

824
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Speaker 2: I listened to the New Heights podcast today, You and

825
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 2: so they and the world first time very good, excellent,

826
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: have great chemistry.

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Speaker 3: Our old producer, TD is their executive producer really kind

828
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Speaker 3: of runs it.

829
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Speaker 2: Really they actually, to TD's credit, I liked actually the

830
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 2: production elements of it, the way they did camera cuts

831
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 2: and everything was very very good. And Kelsey, uh told

832
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 2: I talked about it like kind of jokingly, is this

833
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 2: going to be a distraction. It absolutely is going to

834
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 2: be a distraction of Travis Kelsey, he told me.

835
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Speaker 1: He told me so.

836
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 2: It's a parasocial relationships. Told us that paparazzi are staking

837
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Speaker 2: him out outside his house now every time he leaves

838
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: the house.

839
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Speaker 7: Like, guys, I feel like this is a PR stunt.

840
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: No, let's hold that thought. We're gonna get to that

841
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit.

842
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 3: I do kind of I do quickly love this guest

843
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 3: for the Chiefs offense who've been developing, and I don't

844
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 3: think their issues are gone because they blew out the Bears.

845
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 3: So when they have the ball, that to me is

846
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 3: a very intriguing matchup because they're figuring out their receivers.

847
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 3: But Mahomes has only taken one sack this year. It's

848
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: like he's it's like he's Jordan's and he decided I'm

849
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 3: going to turn in like I'm gonna work on this

850
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 3: year not taking any sacks. I'm gonna be like Peyton

851
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 3: Manning who just refused, didn't matter what is how I

852
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 3: was off, just refuse to take a sack. And you

853
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 3: got to see the run setting up the pass. He's

854
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 3: been running more this year too, so it's been a

855
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 3: little less different shaky tackle play too.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Oh my god, Jawan Taylor like the penalties. It's

857
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Speaker 6: the region.

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Speaker 1: He's got to figure that out. Are you okay?

859
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 2: Because I know you said justin Herbert is Michael Jordan's

860
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Speaker 2: now Greg's coming for.

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Speaker 5: The completely a trait of Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the whole thing. We're going to add

863
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 3: one move to the arsenal. I don't know how people.

864
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Speaker 4: Giving up on major requests that mattered to the people

865
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Speaker 4: around them, and you just took that England book and

866
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Speaker 4: tossed it to the side.

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Speaker 5: I don't know why you can't find where.

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Speaker 3: We can do it later later it's for the show.

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00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 3: It's gonna be uh, I'll find it for next show.

870
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Speaker 3: But it was it was a one line. It wasn't

871
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Speaker 3: anything that sticking point with me.

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00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 2: Our podcast has never been mentioned, and any published book

873
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 2: before this is huge.

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Speaker 3: Thank you to uh ben I. Isaac's way more pub

875
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Speaker 3: than he was expecting.

876
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 2: Finally, Monday Night Football, the Giants are back in prime time.

877
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 5: Why are they doing this New York, New York thing

878
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 5: at home to again.

879
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 2: Ratings because they're trying to make the most money because

880
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: they thought Aaron Rodgers was going against Noatrick Mahoe.

881
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 5: You're right, like it's in.

882
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,240
Speaker 1: The Giants are big eyes.

883
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 5: But failed destiny.

884
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 2: Here we go Seattle at the g men, Connie, your

885
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 2: thoughts on, Oh my.

886
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 7: God, the Seahawks. They're so hurt right now.

887
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 6: I mean they came into the game against Carolina down

888
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,919
Speaker 6: two starters already. I mean there were two starters left

889
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 6: that game, Trey Brown and Dramonte Jones. With that hip injury,

890
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 6: they were already down seven starters, like they had their

891
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 6: outside linebacker Darrell Taylor.

892
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 7: He didn't finish the game.

893
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 6: But hopefully they get Rieke Woolen back at cornerback. That

894
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 6: would be huge. If Jamal Adams makes his season debut,

895
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 6: that would also be nice on Monday Night Football, and

896
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 6: then they have the week five by so they get

897
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 6: some time to kind of get a little healthier and

898
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 6: hopefully that'll help them. But the thing for me on offense,

899
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 6: for them, they need to improve on third down like

900
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 6: it's been It's been so bad to watch this offense

901
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 6: and Gino Smith operate that way. I mean three of

902
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 6: twelve on third down. I know that they put up

903
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 6: thirty seven points, but still that's like not going to

904
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 6: hold up against better teams.

905
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 4: I think this is a good matchup for them though,

906
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 4: even though they are missing guys. You're the Giants have

907
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 4: PFF thirty AETH rank defense. Our friend Kevon Thibodeau spin

908
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 4: them a no show this season. They cannot rush the passer.

909
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 4: They're they're banged up all over the place too, and

910
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 4: it does help though. I mean, I think there's a

911
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 4: chance you get Saquon Barkley, a chance, I would say

912
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 4: probably not. But Andrew sounds like Andrew Thomas is coming back.

913
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: Really, he's day to day.

914
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 5: Day to day.

915
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 3: I mean, they said he had a chance to play

916
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 3: last right, but that.

917
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 5: Sounded like that.

918
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 6: He told Taylor Rooks that he's dealing with a high

919
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 6: ankle sprain. Yeah, so I don't know.

920
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 4: I have no idea, but any Andrew Thomas back would

921
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 4: be big, Like they need that for their line it's

922
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 4: been a shambles.

923
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Seattle's run defense is much improved, and I think

924
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 2: that's something you're seeing one of the big difference between

925
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 2: last year and this year. So even if Saquon plays,

926
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 2: I don't think the ball they're moving the ball on

927
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: the ground the Giants, Matt Rita is not gonna move

928
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 2: the needle on that point. This game is not being

929
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 2: played in Seattle, but I just want to give it

930
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 2: a shout out because we've got a lot of Seahawks

931
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 2: fans a listener to the show. Shout out to you guys,

932
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 2: especially you guys at lumin Field eight. Yeah, false star

933
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 2: penalties for the Panthers in the and that game.

934
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: That was a special energy at that game watching it.

935
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 2: They had the twenty thirteen Seahawks there and a bunch

936
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 2: of those dudes are there and lead you to boom.

937
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 2: And they're guys giving pregame speeches and all this stuff,

938
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 2: and that reminded me. I got some flashbacks. I remember

939
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: being at the opening kickoff game following the Super Bowl win.

940
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,479
Speaker 2: It was Packers Seahawks Thursday night, and I'd never seen

941
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 2: a city so completely aligned with their team. Just walking

942
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 2: through Seattle's a beautiful Thursday morning. I remember and just

943
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 2: walking around had never been to Seattle before, and everyone's

944
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 2: wearing Seahawks jerseys. Everybody's a member of the twelves. And

945
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 2: when that building gets hyped up, that is you know,

946
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 2: get a home game Seahawks, because I.

947
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: Feel like you did dance.

948
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 6: That was my favorite. One of my favorite cities to

949
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 6: go to for Thursday night football was Seattle.

950
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 7: That place.

951
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 6: It really there and Arrowhead were really legitimately two of

952
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 6: the loudest places where you feel your whole body almost

953
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 6: like it feels like you're having an out of body experience,

954
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 6: like your brain is vibrating when you're there because of

955
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 6: like the speakers and everything. The music is so loud,

956
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 6: like you can feel the building and ground underneath your

957
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 6: feet actually shaking.

958
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: Un Fortunately, this game is in the big sardine can

959
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 2: in the metal well.

960
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe yeah, that to show up a little for

961
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,479
Speaker 3: this one. There's a lot of transplants that would be nice.

962
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 3: I want to see if they're defensive line, which really

963
00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 3: dominate against Carolina, but it was Carolina has some stain

964
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 3: power because they were very quiet the first two weeks,

965
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 3: very good in that game. John Reid kind of turned

966
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 3: the clock back and and if Rik Willen is back.

967
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 3: And then Devin Witherspon, who I mentioned was kind of

968
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 3: the main character of the week before, and there was

969
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 3: some good and a lot of bad. But man, there

970
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 3: was a lot of good in his second week. He

971
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 3: he is a dog out there. He's a very entertaining

972
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 3: cornerback to watch. Jamal Adams might be returning for this game.

973
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 3: And then you got Gino in the Ultimate revenge game.

974
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 3: I mean, you want to talk revenge game. Oh, he

975
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 3: finally gets a chance out of the storyline. Fiver six

976
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 3: years on the bench, Let's let's put him in. He

977
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 3: has a solid start, but oh no, the ownership can't

978
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 3: bear for Eli Manning to sit out anymore. And they

979
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 3: make what's his name with the funny haircut their head coach.

980
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 1: Come on, I know it. I know it too.

981
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 3: Ben ben Back the only man who believed it. You know,

982
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 3: they made a bench you know, then they fired him

983
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 3: and then they ended up sticking with Eli for a

984
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 3: year and a half.

985
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: Why are you talk about this, Gregg?

986
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, My point is Gino, it's got to go there

987
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 3: against a defense that has two sacks in the season,

988
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 3: no turnovers.

989
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: Good and I know they're an underdog in this game.

990
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 3: Gino Smith is down an underdog. Let's lock it up.

991
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 2: Good luck good I like your locking with your heart,

992
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 2: which is not You're usually more clinical than that. But

993
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: why because you hate the Giants more than anything in

994
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 2: the world. You wouldn't want, you know, Renaissance to be

995
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 2: happening in Jersey. It's that's the way it worked out.

996
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: Everything worked out, that's true.

997
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 5: OOKI is more Jetsanks than Giants.

998
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 7: I almost forgot that he was on the Giants for

999
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 7: that one.

1000
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: Greg is very big on that one star.

1001
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 3: Well, that start was kind of crazy. I mean, not

1002
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 3: that he was amazing, but he didn't like ball out

1003
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 3: ownership made the like essentially ended the coach's career by saying,

1004
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 3: you have to play Eli. I understand it, use all

1005
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 3: the time stunk right, But the talk radio guys were like.

1006
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 3: The talk radio guys were like, how dare you do this?

1007
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 3: I'm going to make you play Eli And then they

1008
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 3: fired the Coach.

1009
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 5: Show for a number of episode in a row.

1010
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 4: We got into like arguments as a group over the

1011
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 4: whole Eli Manning thing. And you and I think that

1012
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 4: you were not seeing it from this the viewpoint of

1013
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 4: the typical New York fan that had a relationship with

1014
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 4: Eli Manning and the organization that was like so loyal

1015
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 4: to miss pretty much a New York thing.

1016
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 2: I thought that was that And this is diffic and

1017
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 2: the saxt important figure in the history of Giants football,

1018
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 2: Eli Manning.

1019
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 1: You view him as like West was similar.

1020
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 2: It's like there was nothing personal about There was no

1021
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 2: it was just the data points and the study of

1022
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 2: the film says that he's not a very good quarterback,

1023
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 2: but he was so much more to that team and

1024
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,439
Speaker 2: the idea of benching him and ending his consecutive game

1025
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 2: star streak for a at that point, Gino was, you know,

1026
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 2: a journeyman that didn't sit right with the fans or ownership.

1027
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 3: And in fairness, they actually played last year. We did

1028
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 3: this whole story line. Then the Seahawks rolled and Gino

1029
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 3: went out of his way to say exactly what you

1030
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 3: said the opposite, that he was treated great, that that

1031
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 3: Macadow believed in him, and he was he loved his time.

1032
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 1: Are continuing this narrative.

1033
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: This is how the by the way, this is how

1034
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 2: the game has won for you, Greg and you get

1035
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 2: the lock because man Ken Walker and Zach Sharbonay, one

1036
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: guy's breaking ankles.

1037
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: The other the guy's breaking sternams. That's a nice combo.

1038
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 5: That's nice.

1039
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 1: That poor Franklin kid still tumbling through the universe.

1040
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 2: All right, speaking of the box, let's take a break

1041
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 2: and then we will look what's.

1042
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 3: In the box?

1043
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 2: All Right, we're back again. Uh, this is giving a

1044
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 2: lot of consternation. There's a lot of trepidation. There's a

1045
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 2: lot of dations here. What's in the box? And you, guys,

1046
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 2: we're gonna pass the box around. You're gonna take something

1047
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 2: out of the box, and your job is kind of

1048
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 2: just talk your talk yourself through it.

1049
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: If it's a positive thing, if it's a happy thing in.

1050
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 2: The box, we could talk about that obviously, and that's great,

1051
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 2: but you might get something really terrible in the box?

1052
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 5: Are we Is it like a charades thing where we're

1053
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 5: not telling you what it is or no, you're.

1054
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: Gonna share it with us.

1055
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 2: And then your job our job, because I think it's

1056
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 2: important to try to be positive people in the world.

1057
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 2: We're making a large audience. Try to spin it, okay

1058
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 2: if you can.

1059
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 3: Okay, Mark Sessler about that the first person on this

1060
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 3: very new thing I'm excited.

1061
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: What's in a box? Alright?

1062
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 3: You read from seven?

1063
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 5: Is it?

1064
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah?

1065
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 5: Is that Mills?

1066
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: All right? From the sequel eight? Nailed it?

1067
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 5: Hey, you here is playing halftime at Super Bowl? Who usher?

1068
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 5: Oh okay, hmmm.

1069
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 4: I'll spin it in the sense that, like, yeah, this

1070
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 4: is totally appropriate individual to play the halftime. I'm not

1071
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 4: a huge usher person on any level, so it's not

1072
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 4: like I'm super disappointed that he's playing for someone else.

1073
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 4: Every time I've been to the Super Bowl, I think

1074
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 4: Wes and I sort of held hands in the concept

1075
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 4: of like, eh, maybe paying attention to this or not.

1076
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 4: But I started to learn more and more that the

1077
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 4: halftime show was incredible.

1078
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: But you were holding hands not paying it.

1079
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 5: On the topic of.

1080
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 4: Like like like you know, like I because you would

1081
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 4: go Dan, you go out, and like I always watch

1082
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 4: pay close attention to it to matter to you, I

1083
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 4: would say, I can't claim as much intrinsic interest in

1084
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 4: some of the guests. This would be on the like

1085
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 4: Beyonce was amazing, so come surprise me like I want

1086
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 4: and now I'm gonna give more attention to it, and

1087
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 4: uh to go in totally open mind. You know how

1088
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 4: many super Bowls you get to go to and so

1089
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 4: I'm all for it.

1090
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 6: Usure played a huge role in my life growing up.

1091
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 6: I love us H G R R, A, Y M

1092
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 6: O and d M. Come on, you remember that song?

1093
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 6: I can no, I don't now, baby, tell me what

1094
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 6: you want to do with me?

1095
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 7: Mob on Ava?

1096
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 3: You know what did you did? You figure skate to this?

1097
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 3: Why was he such a big part of your life?

1098
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 6: Because I always listened to him. But he's also a

1099
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 6: really good performer. I will say that, like, even if

1100
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 6: he has not dropped a song, a new song, while

1101
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 6: you do well in this she puts on a great show.

1102
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 6: So I have no doubts about that.

1103
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 3: You said you're a fit, you're a legit fan.

1104
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I liked it.

1105
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,240
Speaker 3: I'm saying so when I brought this up because Emica,

1106
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 3: my betrothed betrothed is going to the super Bowl this year.

1107
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 5: For truth, it's betrothed, betrothed.

1108
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 3: You never said that, Troth. It's good to say, be Troth.

1109
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 5: It's his wife. He can say it as he wants to.

1110
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,439
Speaker 3: Good to say new words out loud for the first

1111
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 3: time at this advanced stage. I definitely never said that. Uh,

1112
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 3: she was excited about this now. It wasn't like Beyonce

1113
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 3: or Rihanna or anything where she would have gone nuts

1114
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 3: and was you know, a little jealous that she wasn't

1115
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 3: there for the Rihanna year and it was her dad.

1116
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 3: It's been quite a while. I don't think she's been

1117
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 3: to a super Bowl since the New York one. But Usher,

1118
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 3: it was kind of like, Okay, that works good. Yeah,

1119
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 3: it's like check in the box. And what you said

1120
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 3: is like as pop stars go, and I'm not really

1121
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 3: one to judge, but from people I trust. If you're

1122
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 3: just talking dancing skills from a man who sings as

1123
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 3: a lead pop star, very nice, all time, great, right.

1124
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 7: At the top, right near to surprise people.

1125
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 2: Okay, good, you kind of got me sold. I think

1126
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 2: I think we have now moved. And it was kind

1127
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 2: of a little bit of a a sin. I thought

1128
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 2: that it took so long to start incorporating hip hop

1129
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 2: and R and B action into the halftime show until

1130
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 2: they totally exhausted the classic rock genre. I think now

1131
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 2: what they're doing is they are going through the essentially

1132
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 2: classic hip hop.

1133
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 3: Well yeah, doctor Dre two years ago.

1134
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 1: But that was awesome, I.

1135
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 3: Think to a certain audience.

1136
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 2: The one thing I'll say about Usher as we slide

1137
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 2: the box to Greg is we will get Little John

1138
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 2: on stage.

1139
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 5: And I'm gonna do Yeah.

1140
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: That's the anchor of the whole set.

1141
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 4: So he's also like seven or eight people in these

1142
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 4: acts anyway, So if it's if you're upset with Usher,

1143
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 4: there'll be seven or eight other people to please you.

1144
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:56,479
Speaker 7: We'll take that rewinded back.

1145
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm wondering because, like you know, during super

1146
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 6: Bowl week and leading up to the super Bowl, we

1147
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 6: always play the songs on the shows, and I just

1148
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 6: like don't know how many songs are PG and to

1149
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 6: play hard?

1150
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, shadowy League figures on the third floor. Why they

1151
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,959
Speaker 2: were so reticent to go down this road?

1152
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 3: Right? Because you gotta you gotta play I can't wait.

1153
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 3: You gotta play Love in the club. But hey, some

1154
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 3: wild things going on?

1155
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: Wild?

1156
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 7: Okay, what's in the box?

1157
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: What's in the box?

1158
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 3: All right? What's good?

1159
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 1: Box?

1160
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:36,240
Speaker 3: The Browns are allowing zero or negative yards on fifty

1161
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 3: three point seven percent of their plays. That is a

1162
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 3: totally preposterous stat It's almost hard to believe. I guess

1163
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 3: incomplete passes count as that, so that helps make it

1164
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 3: make sense. A little, but their level of dominance through

1165
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 3: three weeks, and yeah, there's no need to spin this

1166
00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:00,439
Speaker 3: rivals any three week stretch in terms of EPA, p P

1167
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 3: and whatnot that basically any defense has ever had. Certainly

1168
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 3: to start the season, I think it's the best since

1169
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 3: ninety nine, and just basically any three week stretch, it's

1170
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 3: hard to beat how the Browns are playing defense right now.

1171
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 3: And that's why I'm interested this week. That we'll get

1172
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 3: into it Thursday, but a better competition, I think in

1173
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 3: terms of the team they're playing.

1174
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 4: And I mean just to think of how dark times

1175
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,959
Speaker 4: have been on that defense in general, and I can't

1176
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 4: really remember unless you go back to the Bill Belichick

1177
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,919
Speaker 4: era decades ago in Cleveland, any players on that side

1178
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 4: of the ball having fun. In fact, the last couple

1179
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 4: of years, it was like a lot of grumbling about

1180
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 4: the coordinator, the scheme, you've got talent not being used correctly.

1181
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 4: And my mind goes to this play from Sunday against

1182
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 4: the Titans where the Titans, as Miles Garrett is moving

1183
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 4: around the field and he's moving all over the place.

1184
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 4: Now on that defense under Jim Schwartz, that they're just

1185
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 4: rotating two tight ends who were like dozy doing from

1186
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 4: one side of the formation to the.

1187
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 5: Next to try to cover Miles Garrett.

1188
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,919
Speaker 4: And finally it just ended in a delay of game

1189
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 4: or something like that, and Jim Schwartz on the sideline

1190
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 4: is just sitting there chuckling his head off.

1191
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 7: Lapping and like Rabel, it's like rubbing his eye.

1192
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 4: This has not happened in Cleveland in a long time,

1193
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 4: so you don't have to spin it too hard.

1194
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, Tom Schwartz is like, I think, the perfect coordinator

1195
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 6: for that defense.

1196
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 7: Miles Garrett looks so good.

1197
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,439
Speaker 6: But that play and then after they came back, Miles

1198
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,720
Speaker 6: Garrett ended up getting the sack anyway, on that play.

1199
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 7: It was great.

1200
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 3: Isn't it your turn Schwartz for president?

1201
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 5: I mean, we know he's got coordinator of the year.

1202
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 3: He's got he's got Mark feel and a fletter connection

1203
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 3: to the nineties.

1204
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,760
Speaker 7: Okay, great, what's in the box?

1205
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 1: You could take the girl out a Philo.

1206
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:47,280
Speaker 6: Vance Joseph's Sunday night meeting with Sean Peyton.

1207
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 5: Oh my god, it's spin a blondie.

1208
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 7: You know what?

1209
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 6: Sometimes the what is it, the strongest steel goes through

1210
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 6: the hottest fire, and this is a come to Jesus moment,

1211
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 6: and it's nice that it happened this early in the

1212
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 6: season for these two. Having some quality time together will

1213
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 6: hopefully help them kind of get through some of the

1214
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 6: blocks that they're having. But allowing seventy points for Vance Joseph,

1215
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 6: it's not great.

1216
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: Forget about Zach Wilson feeling bad for him.

1217
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 2: Did you see some of those sideline shots of Vance

1218
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 2: Joseph as that game was going on.

1219
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 3: It's ugly.

1220
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 7: How do you spend that positive?

1221
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's not just seventy against the Dolphins and

1222
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 3: ruining in Sean Payton's mind his return to the sideline

1223
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 3: and embarrassing him, I mean thirty two points in the

1224
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 3: last three quarters against the Commanders. Also in retrospect, great,

1225
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 3: that's pretty tough when you're giving up a monster lead

1226
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 3: to the Commanders. I do think Sean Payton will be

1227
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 3: like extra icy because he's making him look bad.

1228
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 4: It's a really weird situation because this doesn't happen that

1229
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 4: much in the NFL at all, where like he was

1230
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 4: a failed Broncos head coach, negative memories and energy around

1231
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 4: that regime and that time you come back as a

1232
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 4: defensive coordinator was kind of like touted like, hey, this

1233
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 4: is great, like it's great to be back here, and

1234
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 4: it's like, no, you like four or five years later

1235
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 4: went back and dated like an x and realizing like

1236
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks in, like, oh, I completely remember

1237
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 4: why I walked away from this whole situation. Now you're

1238
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 4: stuck in the middle of it. Greg called Sean Payton's

1239
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 4: career over after the failed on side kick to open

1240
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 4: Week one, and you know what, it's pretty good about

1241
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 4: what Greg said. Not for Sean Payton, but for Greg.

1242
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 2: I thought it was over when Kevin James played him

1243
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 2: in a bio pick. It was like, it's kind of

1244
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 2: there's no coming back from that.

1245
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 3: I thought it was over when John Elway passed them

1246
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 3: Josh Allen, that was a big.

1247
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: Tough ye by the way, they get just like you, John.

1248
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 2: Come on, they get the Bears at Soldier Field, they

1249
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 2: don't win that game. Oh and then they don't beat

1250
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 2: in a Trevor Simeon revenge game the Jets in Week five.

1251
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: Then they go to listen to the next three games.

1252
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,439
Speaker 3: No, no, it's a path to two and three. Though,

1253
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 3: to be fair, that's who you'd kind of are a schedule.

1254
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,479
Speaker 2: On the flip side, Yeah, they could go on five

1255
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 2: at Kansas on a short week. There's in a football

1256
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:06,399
Speaker 2: home against Green Bay, home against Kansas City again, god

1257
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 2: bye week at Buffalo, they could get gnarly, that's all.

1258
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,959
Speaker 5: But Daniel Hackett is eleven and I think.

1259
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: Vance Joseph could be the guy who pays for it.

1260
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 5: If Yeah, but think you want to be a part

1261
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 5: of it.

1262
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 2: You got to win one of these next two games.

1263
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 2: You have to or we're talking that way.

1264
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:29,240
Speaker 3: Those ultimately you can't bears the awkward.

1265
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 5: That flight home was quiet for everyone.

1266
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 3: And you know, I saw one of the ESPN shows

1267
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 3: are the big splash headline like who's the Who's that? Blame?

1268
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 3: Sean Payton or Russell Wilson, And I'm.

1269
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 7: Like everybody, Russell Wilson didn't play that.

1270
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 3: I was like, actually, I think Russ had his best

1271
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 3: game in a while. I mean, it is a problem

1272
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 3: that he's like one of the highest paid quarterbacks in

1273
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 3: the league and everything they gave up for him, and

1274
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 3: you're just hoping he's a better than Yeah, this is

1275
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 3: not about.

1276
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,760
Speaker 5: Us, Harvey, just keep pointing the finger at Russell Wilson.

1277
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: What was that Russ let's go.

1278
00:56:58,360 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 3: Let's ride baby.

1279
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:02,919
Speaker 1: All right, here we go.

1280
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 3: Oh, what's in the box?

1281
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: All right, this one?

1282
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 2: Actually I have the right to pass one, and I

1283
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 2: will pass it.

1284
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 3: Oh wow, you have the right to yes, the right

1285
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 3: when you make up the games, he can do whatever

1286
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 3: you want.

1287
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 6: Current biological status of Tank the dog, Well, where is Tank?

1288
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 7: Tank? I don't need to hear from Bridget right now.

1289
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 7: That's that's for certain.

1290
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 3: So Tank the dog again is the one that, Yes, if.

1291
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 6: You're not familiar, Tank is the one that attacked me

1292
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 6: on Day the dog.

1293
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 7: Of course, Bridget's worried about the dog.

1294
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: You I forgot about that.

1295
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 6: You know what, I will never Tank has left his

1296
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 6: mark on me forever, and these scars they will fade,

1297
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 6: but they will always be there. And I actually have

1298
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 6: no idea if Tank is alive or what is his

1299
00:57:58,400 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 6: current biological status.

1300
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 7: He's with Bridget, maybe you're.

1301
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 3: Your friend with his owner or former owner.

1302
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 7: It's John's family.

1303
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 3: So you haven't followed that conversation.

1304
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 6: I have not asked about Tank, and Tank has not

1305
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,919
Speaker 6: asked about me, so we just keep it that way.

1306
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 6: It's I don't know if you've hung out with Italians,

1307
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 6: but you just if there's an issue, you just lock.

1308
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 3: It away, bottle it up.

1309
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:28,919
Speaker 1: It's over there now.

1310
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 3: I mean, because if I'm you and I find out

1311
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 3: four years from now, oh yeah, you know, Barb, Barb

1312
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 3: and Joe aren't coming tonight, but they had to stay home.

1313
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 3: They didn't want to be awkward because you know, they're

1314
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 3: they're watching Tank who's still there. I'd feel I'd feel

1315
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 3: a little way about how how many many feels about this.

1316
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: Forgetting the whole story from Colleen, and it's her personal life.

1317
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 2: She doesn't need to share the whole story, right if

1318
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 2: she truly doesn't know what's going on, that's a diplomatic play.

1319
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: It's your husband's family. It's a tough spot.

1320
00:58:58,880 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 7: I'm bowing out.

1321
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: Yep, it's a toughie. It was a tough Christmas, it was.

1322
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 1: But I think, you know, yes.

1323
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 7: I don't. I actually have no idea.

1324
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:14,919
Speaker 1: He gone would be good, that'd be good.

1325
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 3: No for you, not for you.

1326
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 2: Terrible situation. I don't know why Bridget seems to make

1327
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 2: light of it. She's a Roman unplugged that ring, you know.

1328
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 5: I mean, that's very unbringing.

1329
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 3: One of those AI women that just don't like other

1330
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 3: women in the room.

1331
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: Yes, right.

1332
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 2: Uh, you know what, as Taylor said, like we all

1333
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 2: can wear our crowns, all right, Bridget put that in

1334
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 2: their system.

1335
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 4: I mean, this is not as one related one that

1336
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 4: I pulled out of the box.

1337
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 5: Why am I getting these strange ones?

1338
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 4: I don't know race for the GOP nomination ahead of

1339
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 4: the twenty twenty four presidential election. Spin this positively. It

1340
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 4: is possible. God, it is possible that.

1341
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: It was a tough bull.

1342
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, like the don't look up situation, It's possible that

1343
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:07,439
Speaker 4: some sort of interstellar debris that you know that sounds

1344
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 4: small would actually be like the half the size of

1345
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 4: Earth lands directly on the United States of America and.

1346
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 5: We don't have to deal with any of it.

1347
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 4: I might not get there, like you don't have to

1348
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 4: deal with what seems like a very murky, unattractive Nettlesoen problem.

1349
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 4: We've led decent lives up to now, and then bang

1350
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 4: it's over and we're all in some sort of like

1351
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 4: cosmic dream land and we don't kind of a best

1352
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 4: case scenario, That's how I'd spin it positively, is like

1353
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 4: another like world event that would take place, right, we

1354
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 4: don't have to go through.

1355
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 3: All this as it's coming to the ground. No one's

1356
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 3: worried about, Like, how come we couldn't get the tenth

1357
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 3: guy on the stage. Well he didn't have enough you know,

1358
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 3: percentage votes.

1359
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 6: It's like, shut up, we got moderating one of those debates.

1360
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 2: How about how about a little overhauled the electoral college?

1361
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, what feels about that? That one is overnew But

1362
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 3: there's insane.

1363
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: Pin in that. Let's save that for the government podcast.

1364
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 1: There's a lot in this box.

1365
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 3: Panthers are winless and own their first round pick this isle.

1366
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 3: Say that again, the Panthers are winless and they don't

1367
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 3: own their first round.

1368
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 2: Well, that's a pretty dark pick like this. Oh God,

1369
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 2: speaking of the Bears. By the way, there's a chance

1370
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 2: the Bears pick one too. Yeah, own that pick. So

1371
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 2: Adam Rank might be in the tank right now, Adam tank,

1372
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 2: but he'll be flying if they pick one too.

1373
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: Well, they just need other people to pick them.

1374
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 5: See what they do with it.

1375
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 3: Well there, Yeah, there's a chance that the top four

1376
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 3: picks could be Cardinals Bears because the Cardinals own The

1377
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 3: Texans pick sloppy. Now, the Texans, I think might be

1378
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 3: too good for that.

1379
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: CJ.

1380
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 3: Stroud won't let it happen, but it's a tough situation,

1381
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 3: classic tough. I think it's a it's something we're supposed

1382
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 3: to spend positive though.

1383
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, so looking at their schedule here, because.

1384
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 3: When Andy Dalton comes out there and I don't see

1385
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 3: a lot of wins, no, looks a lot better than

1386
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 3: your number one overall draftic and the number two overall

1387
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 3: draft pick is balling out. Like, none of that feels good.

1388
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 3: But this was always gonna take time, I guess, would

1389
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 3: be my answer to that, Like, there was not many

1390
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 3: scenarios where Bryce Young was going to play extremely well

1391
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 3: with this group of receivers. It was a two year process.

1392
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 3: They were in a rough start this entire regime. The

1393
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 3: confusing part, though, was part of the regime was there

1394
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 3: before Scott Fitter of the GM. And that's where it

1395
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 3: always gets murky. I always say, start your GM and

1396
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 3: coach together.

1397
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 2: Three yeah, three weeks before thereby home against Minnesota. No

1398
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 2: gimme in Minnesota is a you know, dead animal walking game.

1399
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 3: Sure, but another winless team.

1400
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 2: You got a chance, right, but a team that easily

1401
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 2: could be three and oh if they had last year's luck.

1402
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 2: So they're not helpless at Detroit, tough at Miami, good

1403
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 2: night nurse. So you gotta win this week. Gotta win it,

1404
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 2: Gotta find a way.

1405
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 4: I could spin it positive for Frank Reich. Not fun

1406
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 4: if you go winless. But the owner is still paying

1407
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 4: like seven more years of Matt Rule's contracts. So uh,

1408
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 4: probably tough to get fired, so you'd live to see

1409
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 4: another season.

1410
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 3: I worry about Frank right because it does feel like,

1411
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 3: first of all, he's lost a lot of games in

1412
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 3: a row. Just you think about how the way the

1413
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 3: Colts ended. Yeah, and he always used to have so

1414
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 3: much energy, and it does feel like the light is

1415
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 3: a little out right now that it's it's just.

1416
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 5: A little tough for Tim say that though, like we're

1417
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 5: not there, We're not I died this with Bruce arians.

1418
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 3: No no, no no, I just no, no no no. I don't mean.

1419
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 3: I just mean, like the hootspa, the energy, Like I

1420
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 3: think it's wearing on him.

1421
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: He's got a big job. It's losing he has a

1422
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 1: huge like.

1423
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 7: Not a young guy either wants to make it through

1424
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 7: the seasons.

1425
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 3: Like someone around the building. You know, it's like you're

1426
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 3: scheduled for like ten shows. Maybe you don't have as

1427
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 3: much energy for that ten show. Frankreik's been through a

1428
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,479
Speaker 3: lot of these games now without a break. He could

1429
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 3: have used the break.

1430
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 7: Maybe he took a hydroxyzeen last night.

1431
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: Just don't take two.

1432
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 7: Oh my god, I can only take a half.

1433
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 3: Art is a tiny box box.

1434
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 7: Okay.

1435
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 6: Taylor Swift is literally too famous to find enduring love

1436
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 6: at the stage of her life. So I would say,

1437
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 6: I know I have to spin this positive, but I

1438
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 6: have to say first that I don't truly believe any

1439
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 6: of this. I don't believe that Travis and her are dating.

1440
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 5: I feel like Michael Gift, Michael Scott Gift.

1441
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 6: It's a complete pr move. I just it feels like

1442
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 6: too much all at once. So I'm onto you, Taylor, Uh,

1443
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 6: But like, I don't know, I have no idea. Imagine

1444
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 6: trying to have a normal relationship when you are Taylor

1445
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 6: Swift and you're going on these international tours and everyone

1446
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 6: everyone loves you and worships the ground you walk on.

1447
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 6: Then how do you pivot into a personal relationship with someone.

1448
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1449
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 3: It's it's uneven to begin with that he's a fan

1450
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 3: going to the show and giving her the bracelets that's

1451
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 3: starting the relationship, even though he's a cute, great person

1452
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 3: in his own right, it's just starting with an imbalance

1453
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 3: that eventually might be The.

1454
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: Balances are never good at all.

1455
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 4: What is her balance like doing like a like a

1456
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 4: more romantic, still living, younger Michael Jackson, Like what, No,

1457
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 4: but maybe someone that there's always an imbalance though, yeah,

1458
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 4: she always is, that's the point. But he can handle

1459
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 4: it though, Like if it's real, Okay, if it's real.

1460
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 4: It's like Travis Kelcey isn't sitting around pouting about the

1461
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 4: fact that she's more renowned than he is, Like she's

1462
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 4: like her, Yeah all right, but.

1463
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 7: I mean it's not a bash.

1464
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 4: She also, I would say, like having watched like documentaries

1465
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 4: about her and stuff like behind the scenes, she seems

1466
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 4: like pretty down to earth to me, seems very nice

1467
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 4: asking her in her own fame, thinking she's so much

1468
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 4: better than Travis.

1469
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 3: She did produce those documentaries. It's just I do love

1470
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 3: he's worth point.

1471
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 5: I mean, all right, but I love.

1472
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 6: When like sports, when sports bros. Though, when like entertainment

1473
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 6: veers into sports, or like when new kind of appears

1474
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 6: in and people are in a different lane. I kind

1475
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 6: of love that for like the announcers and everything else,

1476
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 6: this is fun.

1477
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 4: Do you think that Travis Kelsey's mom, though, like who

1478
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 4: cares about her son as a son, not a famous

1479
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 4: football player, right, and they're very tight, that she would

1480
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 4: unless it was like, this is so good for you

1481
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 4: and everyone else, like they're hanging out and like they were.

1482
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 4: It seemed that kind of seemed real to me a

1483
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 4: little bit, right. Do you think the mom would be like,

1484
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 4: I'm really cool with my son having a fake relationship.

1485
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 7: Unless she's in on it.

1486
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 5: I mean that's saying like.

1487
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 4: That so exciting for her too, just a little next

1488
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 4: level if the mom is just like, but but you

1489
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,919
Speaker 4: know what we're dealing with, like alter famous individuals, So.

1490
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 1: That's so fun for the mom.

1491
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 2: For Donna, like she's sitting watching her son and yeah,

1492
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 2: the most famous person in the world is next to

1493
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 2: her like that with her.

1494
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 4: Like, I don't know, I kind of maybe there's this

1495
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 4: part of me that wants to believe that it can

1496
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 4: be real and that yet I see where coming from

1497
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 4: with them.

1498
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 7: Maybe I should be lesson.

1499
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 5: No, I don't think I.

1500
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 4: Think you it's a healthy cynicism is fair in this situation,

1501
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 4: this one kind of is a repeat of conversation we

1502
01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 4: ended up having.

1503
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 2: But I got just in Fields official Jersey Owners NFL

1504
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 2: shop retail price one nine ninety nine.

1505
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 1: That's pretty big investment. That would be work.

1506
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 3: I wouldn't buy.

1507
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 5: I wouldn't hold on that purchase.

1508
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 3: Mac Jones, it's looking like the QB two in that

1509
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 3: draft glass. Kyle Shannon was right, it's depressing.

1510
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 1: Uh this one. I like this one, but maybe we'll

1511
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 1: save it for Thursday. Wow, I kind of get going here.

1512
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 5: Okay, Oh we could do some box entries to fans.

1513
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 7: Just reading the rest of what he wrote in the box.

1514
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 1: Here you go. This is for you, Kylie. Also what

1515
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 1: I gave you a go and you've had a couple

1516
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 1: of toughies.

1517
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 5: I got an election question.

1518
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 6: According to Pro Football Focus, Jalen Carter is the highest

1519
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 6: greatest interior defensive lineman, third highest graded defender overall.

1520
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 7: He looks so good.

1521
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 6: The Eagles losing Javon Hargrave felt like such a terrible

1522
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 6: thing because he played so well for them last season.

1523
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 7: And he goes to the forty.

1524
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 6: Nine ers who were already still could be stacked defense

1525
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 6: and yes, but Howie Rosevean goes out and is able

1526
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 6: to draft Jalen Carter and the way that he started

1527
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 6: his rookie season, he looks incredible.

1528
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 5: I think Dan nailed it on Sunday.

1529
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 4: Why how were we At what point did we stop

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01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 4: letting the Eagles just do this to the rest of.

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01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, just start copying that they do.

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01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 5: Do it before them. You got to do it before

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01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 5: they get the chance.

1534
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 3: It's also a position that usually takes a while to

1535
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 3: get going, and he only played like twenty something snaps,

1536
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 3: so like they're able to rotate him in. But he's

1537
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 3: playing at a level where he'll get considered for it's

1538
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 3: very early, but for the Pro Bowl and whatnot, which

1539
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 3: has a rookie defensive tackle just doesn't happen unless you're

1540
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:39,839
Speaker 3: Aaron Donald.

1541
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 2: And it should be said because we get on Seattle

1542
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 2: and other teams that passed on Carter here, like he

1543
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 2: had some very real issues going on off the field,

1544
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 2: and they'll run up to the draft that you know, understandably,

1545
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,640
Speaker 2: some teams were nervous about it and didn't know what

1546
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 2: it meant for the bigger picture of this prospect that

1547
01:08:58,760 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 2: they were bringing in.

1548
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 1: And we still don't. We don't know what Jamen I.

1549
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 3: Think they were more nervous that he was not putting

1550
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 3: all he could into the pre draft process because he

1551
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 3: seemed understandably affected by that.

1552
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 2: But also some bad decision making that led to the

1553
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,759
Speaker 2: incident in which people died. It was like a really

1554
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 2: tragic situation. And then and see to bring up Seattle

1555
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 2: again here, but they've made kind of a killing on

1556
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 2: banking on guys that have had issues and taking chances,

1557
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:31,679
Speaker 2: and the Eagles took a kind of a calculated risk

1558
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 2: and so far it's like the biggest move of the draft.

1559
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 5: Seems like up Seattle's like Avenue too.

1560
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 2: That's why everyone said he was going there. It was

1561
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 2: like it made so much sense.

1562
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 3: And they needed it.

1563
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 7: But they needed it makes Howie Roseman look great.

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01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 3: All right?

1565
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 1: That was what was in the box. I enjoyed that.

1566
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 1: I think we're good, we have fun.

1567
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 2: Anything else, Colleen, I want to get a shout out

1568
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 2: slash plug in for Connie. What speaking of the media minute,

1569
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 2: Amazon's doing fine.

1570
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:04,440
Speaker 1: I want Connie.

1571
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 2: I want Connie on Thursday Night football, Amazon. That's what

1572
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 2: I want. But I don't get that. But what you

1573
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:16,520
Speaker 2: do get is Connie an NFL network. So halftime pregame

1574
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 2: but not half pre game host show.

1575
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 7: Uh huh. It's actually super fun.

1576
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:25,640
Speaker 6: We have MJD on the show and Michael Robinson, and

1577
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 6: then on site we have Mike Garafolo and Steve Smith

1578
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 6: and their maniac what a gang, and we have a

1579
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 6: great time.

1580
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 7: It's a really fun. Hang.

1581
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 1: Did you hear the end of the Sunday show when

1582
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 1: I made Steve Smith laugh?

1583
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 7: And then I have not I have not finished the

1584
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 7: Sunday show yet.

1585
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 1: Just I just wheeled around Greg right behind me.

1586
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 7: Huh.

1587
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 1: Bang gave my thumbs up.

1588
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 4: You're certain to hear about it from Steve Smith the

1589
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 4: next time that you and he, I.

1590
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 1: Will ask you about it.

1591
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:50,719
Speaker 7: I will ask him on Thursday.

1592
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 2: I had him rolling. All right, anything else, let's go.

1593
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 2: We'll be back Thursday. Get out of here with NFL Plus,

1594
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 2: new NFL plus production coming up. There's they also two pods,

1595
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 2: the preview app and the tn F recap.

1596
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 1: How about that. We're doing our job. Eat the call.