WEBVTT - Same Feed, New Feelings: 4 Things is Getting a Makeover (5th Thing) 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:06.800 Happy Tuesday, Welcome to the Fifth Thing. I'm Amy and 0:00:06.880 --> 0:00:10.879 I'm Kat, and well today is announcement day. We tease 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:13.760 that the twenty fifth would be when we make our 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:16.920 announcement of something we've been talking about for a while, 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:20.160 and today's the day. And I mean Kat, you would agree. 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:24.480 Change is weird and scary and scary. Yes, and pretty 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:25.840 much what we have to tell you is four Things 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:29.840 is getting a little makeover of sorts, and a lot 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:33.200 of change has been happening over the last several months, 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:39.159 and finally, on April first, the big flip will happen. Now, 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:40.960 if change is weird for you, and you've been a 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:43.800 loyal listener from the beginning, you might be like, what 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:47.800 what is happening? But as writer and poet Maya Angelo 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:51.160 once said, we delight in the beauty of the butterfly, 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:54.600 but rarely admit the changes it has gone through to 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:59.360 achieve that beauty. So I don't know. Back in the fall, 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:03.040 maybe I was a little caterpillar and I went to 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:03.880 cat We. 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:06.200 Were at the nail salon. It are we getting our 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:06.920 nails done? Okay? 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:10.240 So it was last August, Yes, yesterday, we got our 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:14.479 nails done, and I just threw it out to Kat, 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:17.720 would you like to be a full time co host 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:20.800 on the podcast? Because I was doing four things on 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:23.280 Thursday by myself and the bonus episode was the fifth thing, 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:25.640 and she came on as my co host for the 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:27.680 fifth thing a few. 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:29.040 Years ago, like maybe three. 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:31.920 Then I got this idea after we got our nails done, 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:34.240 and I guess I had been thinking there might be 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:36.280 some change, but I didn't know what that would look like. 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:39.639 And then I remember we left and I was driving 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:41.240 in my car and I called you and I was 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:43.399 in I pulled into my house and I was in 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:46.679 my driveway and I asked you, and I remember being 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:49.440 a little bit nervous, but then you were like, well, yeah, 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:52.360 I've been kind of thinking that you need therapy is 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:54.640 getting a little bit much for me, which is a 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:57.920 podcast that Kat was hosting, and I didn't know how 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:01.440 she would feel about sort of combining ours, although this 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:03.840 is not a therapy podcast, and we'll get to what 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:08.079 it is turning into. But with that quote, I think 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:10.760 it's just a beautiful picture of we're about to turn 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:12.760 into our butterflies. I guess we are now because this 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:15.640 is announced it butterfly, but on April first, we'll be 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:18.320 taking flight. So I'd say, back in August, we were 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:22.600 a little caterpillars, and then the last several months, lots 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:24.880 of months, gosh, that was a long time ago. 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:27.440 Six months we're inn We. 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:30.440 Were in our cocoon and we were turning into bush 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:33.119 and trying to figure this whole thing out, and we're 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:36.680 finally ready to emerge. So that is why the butterfly 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:38.040 quote was very fitting for this. 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:49.560 So drum roll please, if. 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:52.799 You ever have feelings that you just wollsome maybe a 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:56.919 cat gotcha cob and locking a brother, Ladies and fells, 0:02:57.480 --> 0:02:59.519 do you just follow an the spirit where it's ound 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:02.800 of this phone and real stuff to the chill stuff 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:06.880 and m but swaying. Sometimes the best thing you can 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:12.480 do it just you feel things. This is feeling things with. 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:13.400 Amy and Kat. 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:16.240 The podcast now has a new name, so it's no 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:19.799 longer four Things with Amy Brown. It is feeling things 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:23.480 with Amy and Kat, Feeling things with Amy and Kat, 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:26.760 Feeling things with Amy and Kat and Ka. Yeah, so 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:29.400 we're still working on things, but it'll be on this 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:32.359 feed formerly Four Things with Amy Brown. You don't have 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:36.720 to change anything everything that you do to access. This 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:39.280 podcast is the same for you. You'll just see new 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:43.800 artwork and then obviously you'll hear feeling Things. So Walker 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:47.440 Hayes originally did my four Things theme song and he 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:50.760 is a part of the rebrand, so we're getting a 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:55.520 little Walker Hayes Feeling Things remix, and yeah, Kat is 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:58.240 now a full time co host again. It's called Feeling 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:00.800 Things with Amy and Kat, and our tagline is a 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:05.480 podcast for anyone who's ever had feelings or wants to, and. 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:09.280 Which is everybody, Yeah, let's hope. Well yeah, I mean, 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:10.960 I guess a couple people could be left out of that. 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:13.160 They're like, I don't I don't want to have feelings 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:16.760 and I don't have them. There's hope, I guess. And 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:19.599 then the description is Feeling Things with Amy and Kat 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:21.720 is a podcast for anyone who's ever had feelings or 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:25.440 wants to, Hosted by Amy Brown and therapist Kat van Buren. 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:28.440 This isn't a therapy podcast. It's a space where nothing 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:31.840 is off limits, from deep reflections on childhood to pop 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:35.080 culture obsessions to what's happening in the world. All feelings 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:39.120 deserve space, big, small, and everything in between. At its core, 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:43.359 it's real friends having real conversations about real feelings. Some 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:46.480 topics are heavy, some are light, but all are worth 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:49.200 talking about. After all, in a world that moves fast, 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:52.200 sometimes the best thing we can do is stop and 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:52.920 feel things. 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:53.799 Beautiful. 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:56.840 Beautiful, I said, that's a description. We also have an 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:59.680 Instagram for the podcast. We'd love for you to follow 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:05.839 at Feeling Things Podcast. Kat secured that, good job, and 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:10.440 we will be loading up some content as we gear 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:13.280 up for April first, to make sure you follow, and 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:16.840 we'll be in the stories, both of us interacting with 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:20.560 you all. We look forward to that, and we're going 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:23.599 to do a little snail giveaway as well. I know 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:27.680 sometimes incentive helps, but I'm obsessed with snail serum. I 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:31.440 gave Kat some Biopel Tensage forty. It's a ten pack 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:33.880 of this amazing snail stuff. I gave it to her 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:36.279 two years ago and she never used it. 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:38.880 That's a lie. I used it two months ago. 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:42.120 No, I was getting to that point. You didn't let 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:44.960 me finish it took you two years to use it. 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:46.800 What I was saying is, yeah, you finally tried it 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:48.960 a couple of months ago, and what you're obsessed, I'm 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:51.920 obsessed with it. Yeah, this is a big deal. So 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:55.640 your initial feeling about it was this is weirdless, I'm 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:58.280 not putting snail stuff on my face. Thanks for the gift, Amy, 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:00.680 but I'm going to keep it in a drawer. And 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:03.039 I thought I didn't throw it out, Yeah, because that 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:04.880 ten pack is one hundred and fifty dollars value. 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:06.880 Well, I only had I didn't have the whole pack. 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:08.320 I had a sample. 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:10.200 Oh I didn't give you the whole ten pack. 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:13.440 Which rightfully, so I didn't deserve it. 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:16.440 Okay, Why thought I gave you the whole thing? Okay, 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:18.760 well goud So you just left a one little van 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:22.520 It was like, yeah, two little ampuels. Okay. So this 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:24.680 is a win win for you. You get to follow 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:28.120 along with me and Kat and then you also get 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:31.400 a chance at the ten sage forty the snail SERMs. 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:34.240 We'll be giving away a ton of those, and that's 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:36.480 just a fun little thing, and we'll do other giveaways 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:39.080 on there. And just to give you a breakdown of 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:40.880 what the episodes are going to be like, well, let's 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:44.040 start with Tuesdays. I'm used to the four Things layout, 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:46.920 which it started with just every Thursday episodes and then 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:48.559 Bobby and I were talking, we were like, we should 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:51.800 do bonus episodes. Well, we thought Tuesday was the best day. 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:54.040 So it was weird because four things were on Thursdays 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:56.320 and then the fifth thing was on Tuesday at the 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:59.240 top of the week. It always felt a little weird backwards, 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:02.360 but that's why we're changing. Changing is good. We're evolving. 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:03.960 It's part of being a butterfly. 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:07.880 If you're not evolving, you're dying. You're dying exactly. So 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.160 let's start with the top of the week since that's 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:13.240 what we do now here. So Tuesday is going to 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:18.000 be amy and cat chat type situation. Maybe occasional interviews 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:21.120 guests that come on, but really we want to just 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:24.120 keep this conversational with me and Kat, like we're your girlfriends, 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:26.400 joining you for whatever it is you have going on. 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:30.679 It's going to be casual, there's no rules, free flow whatever, stories, 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:34.280 pop culture things, things we're learning, things were unlearning. And 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:37.960 then on Thursdays, we're stealing a page from Cat's Unique 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:41.640 Therapy podcast and we are doing couch Talks, which that'll 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:43.800 be our listener Q and a episode. 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:45.880 Where you guys can just send in anything that you 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:48.400 have questions whether it's for Amy, whether it's for me, 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:49.880 whether it's for both of us. 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:54.200 A topic, suggestion, something you want to go over. We 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:57.080 will be bringing back the voicemail line, although I will 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:59.400 say emails were way more popular than the voicemail line, 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:01.520 which I always I'm confusing, like I want to hear 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:03.720 y'all's voices. So when we bring that back, I would 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:04.920 love for you to call. I would love to do 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:08.000 live calls, like get people on and interact with them, 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:12.280 like talk hey, this is instead of just giving a response, 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:15.080 and then they can interact a little bit. So that 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:18.160 could be on the horizon. 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:18.120 On the horizon. 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:21.000 It is on the horizon. And if you want to 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:24.200 hit us up, you can. Now you can start emailing 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:28.200 us Hello at Feeling Things podcast dot com. 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:29.320 Hello, it's me. 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:33.960 What's up? His song? I Hello Hello from the other side. 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:35.400 That's what I was saying, the same song. 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:37.880 Doesn't I say hello Hello? Doesn't say it to me? 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:41.880 It's maybe anyway. People won't forget that now they'll remember 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:45.720 Hello at Feeling Things podcast dot com. And we would 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:47.440 love to hear from you again. April first, it's going 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:50.000 to be the first episode. This is not an April 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.560 fools joke. I was telling Kat the other day when 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:54.240 we were going over the calendar and we were like, yeah, 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:56.680 let's do it on April first, and I was like, oh, yeah, 0:08:56.679 --> 0:08:58.320 that's April Fols. And I was like, oh, it's also 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:01.200 the day my dad died. And I'll never forget that 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:03.560 because obviously the day died. 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:04.199 Yeah, he was fine. 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:07.000 But anyway, well, dates get a little tricky, Like, I know, 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:10.640 my mom's is October twenty seventh because it's the day 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:14.040 before my sister's birthday. That was a little rough, but like, 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:17.240 I don't know if it was actually assigned to that. 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:19.840 Sometimes they might be like, shoot, was it the you know, 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:22.080 twenty second or was it the twenty third, because sometimes 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:24.719 you play that game. But now April Fols is my 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:28.440 dad and I won't never forget that because we kept 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:31.480 thinking this would be the ultimate dad prank if he's 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:33.199 on life support and we unplugg him and then he's 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:35.880 like just kidding, you know, I'd be like, how do 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:38.640 you pull that off? April fools. He didn't know. He 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:44.280 never woke up. Obviously, Obviously I'm feeling fine about it. 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:47.080 I think time has passed offers levity to the I 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:49.080 mean we were laughing about it in that n as 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:51.600 we unpluged, which honestly might have been nice to have 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:55.160 some levity in probably one of the hardest days. Oh yes, 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:58.120 because I mean with my mom her body went naturally, 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:00.120 and then with my dad we had done pluggin. It 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:04.640 was two very different experiences. But I ever tell you 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:07.280 the song that was playing. So when you unplug someone, 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:10.720 you don't know if they're gonna pass away in a minute, 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:14.240 three minutes or three days, you don't know. And the 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:17.559 doctor told us from what he could tell, it would 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:21.560 happen rather quickly, but he can't guarantee anything. So my 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:25.360 sister had a playlist on loop shuffle is that how 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:28.480 you say it? A shuffle on my dad's iPad, And 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:32.680 when the doctor said, okay, he's gone now that song 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:36.120 with Dolly Pardon and I can't think of his other name. 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:38.880 He's a Christian artist. They have a song together called 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:41.440 There Was Jesus, and that was the song that was 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:44.560 playing whenever the doctor is like it's time. And then 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:46.880 right after that song, Amarilla by Morning came on, which 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:48.760 so my dad was like two stepping. I've told that story, 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:50.040 I know on the podcast or would. I don't know 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:53.400 I've ever told it to you. But anyway, we're not 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:55.680 going to talk about said things like that sometimes, but hey, 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:58.720 sometimes we will because Feeling Things is a podcast where 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:01.320 all feelings are welcome, and sometimes you may not know 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:03.120 your feelings. So this is gonna be a good way 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:05.720 for you to get to know all the different feelings 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:07.679 are out there that are out there, and Kat has 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:09.880 made this feelings wheel. 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:11.600 I made my own. 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:14.720 You can find them anywhere, but I made one that 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:17.920 made sense with how I have categorized and looked at 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:21.000 and kind of learned how to access my own feelings. 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:23.880 If you need that, we have that for you. 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:26.480 When we're going to do a newsletter. Once we get 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:29.720 that up and running, that'll be incentive. You can type 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:31.920 in your email and get the feelings and. 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:32.520 We'll send that to you. 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:36.360 Yeah, yeah, as part of that. So how are you 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:50.040 feeling about the announcement finally being out there? How are 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:52.720 you feeling about the announcement finally being out there? 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:55.880 The feeling I have in my body is like relief 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:58.760 because I feel like we've been holding this in for 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:00.240 what six months? 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:03.680 And I guess originally my plan was, Okay, we'll announce 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:06.160 it January. Again, you want'll announce it in February, and 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:07.640 then well once it in March, and now here it 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:10.880 is late March and we're launching April first. But that 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:14.000 is patience because it just wasn't the right time. 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:14.959 Right it would have been rushed. 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:17.520 But I also feel like you, I don't know if 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:19.360 this is you in all aspects of life, but you 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:22.280 really just wanted to blurt it out, and it was 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:23.240 hard to hold it in. 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:23.800 Yeah. 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:25.920 Of course, Now some people, especially if they listen to 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:29.280 the Bobby Bone Show, they might understand sometimes I spoil things, 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:32.600 but I don't mean to. I get ahead of myself 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:35.680 and I blurt out things that sometimes might be. 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:37.440 A key part because you're excited. 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:40.320 Yeah, because well, I'm just excited. I'm not thinking like, oh, 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:43.079 that's not something that's just known. Like I'm thinking, before 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:46.280 you watch something, you may already know this is sort 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:48.040 of what's taking place, Like I'm not giving away the 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:51.800 whole picture. But then oftentimes, inevitably there's a listener that 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:55.079 will email in and say, Bobby Amy spoiled this from me. 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:56.520 I had no idea that was going to happen, And 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:57.600 I'm like, shoot, but. 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:00.360 Is it something that's in the like commercial. 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:02.160 That's what I think. So I get ahead and blurt 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:04.160 it out, but it's it must not be because then 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:06.040 Mike d will fact check it and I'll be like, yeah, 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:08.280 sure enough, she's spoiled it. So now do you know 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:10.000 on the show, like, I'm only allowed to say, like 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:13.600 if I've watched something, I'll be like, I watched Paradise. 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:15.680 I think that's one I kind of ruined a little 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:18.079 bit too. But if I was reviewing it, I'm just 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:20.520 allowed to say, I watched Paradise. I give it, you know, 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:22.960 five presidents out of five that's it. 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:25.160 Me, Well, you get it five. 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:28.160 Out of five stars, but you pick something from the 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:30.320 show that has to do with it. And so there's 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:33.600 a president in the show Paradise. So I can just 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:34.920 say the show and if I like it or not, 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:37.000 basically got it. I'm not allowed to give any other 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:39.559 thoughts or details around it, which Kat and I will 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:42.000 be talking pop culture type things on here and even 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:46.000 shows at times, and I promise I'm going to have 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:48.280 a little bit more to say, but I'm not going 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:50.160 to spoil anything at all. 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:52.440 We're going to do your best, yeah, to try not 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:55.160 to because I think I know what you spoiled in Paradise, 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:57.760 and I don't think that's a spoiler really because I 0:13:57.760 --> 0:13:58.880 got trouble with the same thing. 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:00.840 Oh and it's what the shows about. Well thanks for 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:02.800 having me back. Yeah, you see what's here on the table. 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:04.760 Feelings will but it's not mine. 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:09.800 Well, it's called an emotional barometer, and so like you 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:12.800 spin it and then you go to the thing that 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:16.520 it lands on. So instead of talking about anything else, 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:19.480 we can just kind of close with a feeling, because 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:21.520 I do think that that's what's going to happen in 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:24.520 the episodes, is you're going to learn about more of 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:27.840 your feelings, and you're going to learn new types of feelings. 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:31.280 You're going to be able to assign new language, I 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:33.880 guess how you're feeling, because sometimes you can't. You don't know, 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:36.120 I don't know how to say how I feel. But 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:39.800 when you have a wider vocabulary, you can. And so 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:42.560 we'll slowly but surely start to cover all of that. 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.320 And again it won't be heavy like all in one 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:49.320 episode where you're just getting all this information. It's kind 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:52.400 of like you're talking with your girlfriends and you have 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:55.240 a mix of it walk away from you know, the 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:57.400 happy hour or the hang Do you ever have that 0:14:57.400 --> 0:14:58.880 with your I mean, I know you and I have 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:00.960 it together, but I have a couple of other friends too, 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:03.240 where when I'm going to go on a hike with 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:06.960 them or get dinner with them happy hour, I know 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:10.160 I'm walking away with a little nugget fun and a 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:13.560 little nugget a wisdom. Yes, one of those people being 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:19.000 Ali Fallon and Gracie Moochlar. So this is a little 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:21.320 nugget that you're going to get and it'll be like 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:24.640 weaved in, but it won't seem like an overwhelming thing. Okay, 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:27.120 you're trying to get a spin, but then I'm going 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:28.520 to have to find it. But just spin it. And 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:31.400 that's why I thought, I want to just draw it. 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:33.960 Flick it. Oh what can I respin it? 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:34.280 No? 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:35.000 What is it? 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:35.520 I got a. 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:39.440 Weepy Oh okay, well weepy it is, except for we 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:41.360 should probably just draw it because spinning it, I have 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:47.080 to find it. Oh okay, so oh found Sorry, as 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:49.280 I was doing that, it came across it. Okay, if 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:52.760 you're feeling weepy, we're not actually crying at the moment. 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:55.520 But the tears are far closer to the surface than 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:59.640 they normally would be. A whole host of relatively minor 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:05.120 things threatens to set us off. See I've been this, 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:07.120 but I don't think I would ever be able to say, Oh, 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:08.200 I'm weepy right now? 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:10.600 What would you say? You're irritable probably. 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:14.800 Or I'm on the verge of crying. Strangely, they aren't 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:17.920 the grim things we might associate with crying. They're things 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:20.480 that feel especially beautiful, tender, or pure. 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:23.080 Oh I'm weepy all the time now it's. 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:26.600 Taken a shift. We might feel our eyes moistening at 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:30.200 the sight of something delicate, like flowers breaking through the 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:33.320 hard earth after a long winter, or a parent and 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:37.040 a child chatting together in a cafe. The kid is 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:39.840 talking about a penguin they've seen recently in a book, 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:43.320 or a friend who greets us in an unusually warm way, 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:47.000 or a moment in a film when a moralistic father 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:51.520 makes up with his wayward son. The source of our 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.560 weepiness is located in the place where the troubles of 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:58.000 life collide with what is still kind and good in 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:01.520 the world. The loveliness we see in a film in 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:04.520 a park in a book makes the actual ugliness of 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:08.240 day to day life all the more vivid. We want 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:12.000 to cry at poignant reminders of a kind of paradise 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:16.199 that's ever more elusive, at what we crave and have 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:20.040 been exiled from. Ooh, weepees deep. 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:22.080 Yeah that was not what I saved. 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:24.360 Yeah, me neither. So see I didn't even know really 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:27.880 what weep want. Now we do, so we do want weep. Yeah, 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:30.800 you almost didn't want it. That's what we're not done. 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:34.520 There's more on the back. These cards are so cool again. 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:37.200 It's called Emotional Barometer. You can get them at the 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:39.720 Schooloflife dot com. I got them at. 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:42.080 Eye Oh this actually like stands up and stuff you 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:42.840 can put on your desk. 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:45.840 Yeah, they had this in the gift shop at that 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:50.960 therapy retreat I went to. Okay, here, continuing with weepe, 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:53.800 if we were to consider the unusual project of trying 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:57.120 to create a robot that could feel weepy, we would 0:17:57.200 --> 0:18:01.520 have to do something apparently rather cruel. We would have 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:05.080 to ensure that this robot knew about suffering, that it 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:08.280 was able to hate itself and feel loss and confusion, 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:11.359 For it is against the kind of background of pain 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:15.919 that beautiful scenes become deeply important rather than merely nice. 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:19.760 Our weepiness is telling us something key, that our lives 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:22.879 are tougher than they were when we were little, and 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:27.560 that our longing for uncomplicated niceness and goodness is correspondingly 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:31.040 all the more intense. When we are weepy, we don't 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:33.760 need to be cheered up or told to feel grateful 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:37.320 for the good things we still have. Ideally, we'd like 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:40.720 the sorrow in us to meet the sorrow in another person. 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:44.720 It sounds odd, but perhaps we'd like to weep quietly 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:49.159 for a bit with someone else who understands. And I 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:50.879 feel like that was the perfect one for you to 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:53.760 spin the wheel on, because as I was reading that 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:58.560 last part, I have a sense of gratitude for four 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:01.920 things and all that it was so many years and 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:06.679 where it started and how it evolved in itself, and 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:11.359 then now what it's becoming now with you. And there's 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:14.879 like a tender spot for little me that started that 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:19.600 then and then who I am now and I'm grateful. 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:22.840 So that last part just made me think like there's 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:26.159 some some weepiness And to the loyal listeners that have 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:29.800 been with us the entire time and will continue to 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:32.119 be here. Thank you. And if you happen to be 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:35.280 listening to this for the very first time ever and 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:37.880 you're like, oh, it's just really excited about getting into 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:40.320 the fifth thing, Well this is the last one. 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:42.359