WEBVTT - Lacey & Matt - When a First Date Gets Awkward Over One Bold Move

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<v Speaker 1>First date of follow up powered by the Advocates Injury

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<v Speaker 1>Attorneys online at Advocateslaw dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Lacey is on the phone today for a first day

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<v Speaker 2>follow up, and she's getting ghosted by a guy named Matt.

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<v Speaker 2>So in a few minutes, we're gonna call Matt and

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<v Speaker 2>see if I tell us why he's ghosting her and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe get her another date. But first, Lacey, how long

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<v Speaker 2>has it been since you heard from Matt? Hey?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, honestly, it's been a couple of weeks. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really understand.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, have you tried to get a hold of

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<v Speaker 3>him in that time? Like, see, okay I did?

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<v Speaker 4>I did?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So, like I texted him a couple of times,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just like a casual like, hey, how's your

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<v Speaker 1>week going? You know, nothing like desperate. But yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been two weeks, and uh, you know, in dating months

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<v Speaker 1>that that feels like engating time. That feels like two months. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we had an amazing We had an amazing date,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, you know, I've dated guys where the connection

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<v Speaker 1>feels kind of flat and forced and stuff, but with him,

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<v Speaker 1>like I really I felt an immediate spark, which is

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<v Speaker 1>so rare and we were like speaking the same language,

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<v Speaker 1>like without even trying. It was we had this like magnetism.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how else to describe it. And I

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<v Speaker 1>would just hate to see that go. It's such a

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<v Speaker 1>hard thing to come by, it really is.

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<v Speaker 5>I hate that. But why don't you tell us about

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<v Speaker 5>that day? Why don't you tell us about the day?

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<v Speaker 5>How did it go?

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<v Speaker 4>I would love to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So we went to this like really blanky cocktail lounge.

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<v Speaker 1>It was I mean it was like velvet couches and

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<v Speaker 1>like candlelit. It was very romantic, like upscale, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>The bartenders were in like fancy vests and oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>And Matt It's just like one of those like annoyingly

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<v Speaker 1>handsome guys like who sometimes you know, somehow just like

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<v Speaker 1>makes eye contact feel like flirting, you know, like like

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<v Speaker 1>it just like pierces your soul. And we had these

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<v Speaker 1>like ridiculous drinks that like came in teacup.

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<v Speaker 4>Which was like so cute.

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<v Speaker 1>We were just like laughing the all time. He was

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<v Speaker 1>like teasing me about being too extra. When I asked

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<v Speaker 1>the bartender to like torch my lemon peel longer, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we were we already had this like banter going. You

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<v Speaker 1>could really like feel it, and I had this feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember thinking like, oh my gosh, I got these

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<v Speaker 1>people around us. I think we've been dating for a

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<v Speaker 1>really long time.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh you guys just flowed like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and there.

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<v Speaker 1>Was kissing a little more than a little more than kissing.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, I will I'll spare you the details.

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<v Speaker 4>But he's a really.

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<v Speaker 1>Really good kisser, which is just all adding to like

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<v Speaker 1>why I'm so confused, because it was like one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best first dates.

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<v Speaker 4>I've ever had.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, is there anything that you can think of at

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<v Speaker 2>all that would be the reason that he would be ghosting.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe because I took a selfie during the date, like

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<v Speaker 1>a boat, like a both of us.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know, I don't I mean, he laughed,

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<v Speaker 1>like but maybe he thought it was like too aggressive

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<v Speaker 1>to be, you know, posting about us or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even just taking a photo of us. But maybe he

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<v Speaker 1>thinks I'm like, you know, already planning our wedding or

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<v Speaker 1>something like. It didn't feel that way, you know, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>really good selfie.

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<v Speaker 5>By the way, did you post it anywhere?

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<v Speaker 4>No? No, no, I just it was just for like.

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<v Speaker 5>My own memories got you. Okay, I think I think

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<v Speaker 5>I was really good. You can be like, hey, baby,

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<v Speaker 5>is this is when Day and I met you know?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, Well we'll see where you figured it out for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Cut, well, play us on come back and then call

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<v Speaker 2>him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting

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<v Speaker 2>you and maybe get you a second date.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, okay, thank you. All right, we'll get your first

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<v Speaker 5>day follow up right after this.

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<v Speaker 2>Right in the middle of your first day followup, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're just joining us, Lacey is on the phone and

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<v Speaker 2>she's getting ghosted by a guy named Matt. So we're

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<v Speaker 2>about to call him and see if that's ALUs why

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<v Speaker 2>he's ghostinger and maybe get our second date. But before

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<v Speaker 2>we do that, Lacy, why don't you catch us up

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<v Speaker 2>on your date again real quick?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Matt and I went to this really twinky cocktail

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<v Speaker 1>lounge and got some drinks together and it was just

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<v Speaker 1>like so viby and romantic, and he was making eye

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<v Speaker 1>contact the whole time. We were laughing, we were you know,

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<v Speaker 1>poking fun at each other. It was there was kissing,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a little more than kissing, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea like, what possibly could have caused.

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<v Speaker 4>Him to ghost?

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<v Speaker 5>You think it might be because of the selfie that

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<v Speaker 5>you guys have.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's literally the only thing I can think

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<v Speaker 1>of about that potentially.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, warned me out of somebody took a selfie with

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<v Speaker 2>me on the first date, something I could.

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<v Speaker 3>See myself doing. But I understand why people might be

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<v Speaker 3>It's okay, lazy, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Feel you all right? Are you ready for us to

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<v Speaker 5>get him a call?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, here we go.

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<v Speaker 6>Hello?

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<v Speaker 5>Hi, may I speak to Matt? Please?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Matt? How are you? This is a radio show.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called The Jubile Show.

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<v Speaker 5>What's up?

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<v Speaker 7>Matt?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Nina.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi, I am Victoria and my name's Jubel.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh wow, I love.

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<v Speaker 5>That reaction every day. Have you ever listened to the

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<v Speaker 5>show before?

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<v Speaker 7>I have?

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<v Speaker 1>I have?

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<v Speaker 6>This is awkward and surprising.

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<v Speaker 5>Sweet. Thank you? Well, Matt.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess what what? We got an email about you from

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<v Speaker 2>somebody that you're ghosting. Isn't that fun?

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<v Speaker 6>Is this about Lacey?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes? Okay, it is about Lacey. So we talked to Lacey.

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<v Speaker 2>She told us about your date, you know, said that

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<v Speaker 2>she really liked you a lot of thought things were great,

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<v Speaker 2>but cannot figure out why you're ghosting her? Do you

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<v Speaker 2>mind telling us?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, okay, this is going to sound ridiculou, but I

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<v Speaker 6>swear it threw me off. Okay, So halfway through the date,

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<v Speaker 6>she licked the rim of her cocktail glass like like

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<v Speaker 6>slowly like and while maintaining eye contact, and truth be told,

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<v Speaker 6>I panicked, like I was, well, like in my head,

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, was that a move or was there

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<v Speaker 6>sugar stuck there? Like I didn't know how to handle it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, it would be kind of funny for a movement

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<v Speaker 3>a change how you how you view it, Like, is

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<v Speaker 3>it because it's a move that you were uncomfortable?

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<v Speaker 6>I just didn't know if like if she was messing

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<v Speaker 6>with me or if that's just how she drinks. It

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<v Speaker 6>was it was like a scene of a movie that

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<v Speaker 6>I wasn't prepared for.

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<v Speaker 3>Like she was giving you a signal or something.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know. And that's yeah, that I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 6>that's like literally why I haven't called it back because

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<v Speaker 6>like I was like, I can't read it. I don't

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<v Speaker 6>know what this means.

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<v Speaker 5>Like how bad of a lick was it? Right?

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<v Speaker 6>Like I said, it was intense it was aggressive, almost

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<v Speaker 6>animal lesk like like.

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<v Speaker 2>Like did she pick the glass up and like lick

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<v Speaker 2>it from top to bottom or like all the around?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean it was like around the ram like she

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<v Speaker 6>picked it up, but like the whole time, like looking

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<v Speaker 6>at me. Yes, yeah, it just threw me off. It

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<v Speaker 6>was it was wild, like how.

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<v Speaker 5>Many times does she make it around the rim?

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't even count because it was one of those

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<v Speaker 6>things I was like, do I watch this? Is this?

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<v Speaker 6>Like I couldn't look away? But I also felt weird

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<v Speaker 6>looking at it, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, if it's what I'm picturing in my head

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<v Speaker 3>right now, I could see how that would be uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I also see how I kind of dig it,

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<v Speaker 2>you like, staring you down just like.

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<v Speaker 1>This.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, okay, but that's the reason.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's I mean, that's it. That's the reason.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, guess what, Matt, I mean, you listen to these,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm not sure if you remember Lacy is on

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<v Speaker 2>the phone listening and wants to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, I guess I should have known.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi, Hi Lacy, Hey Matt. Oh sorry, so I heard

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<v Speaker 4>the whole thing. You're you vanished over a glass?

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<v Speaker 5>Licking.

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<v Speaker 6>Is that yes?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that really?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah? Correct?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm so sorry one second, Okay, sorry, I was

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<v Speaker 1>just taking a sip of water and licking the bottle.

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<v Speaker 1>Who yeah, Matt, No, I I was not seducing you.

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<v Speaker 1>There was literally cinnamon sugar on the rim, like you said, So,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to be.

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<v Speaker 4>Wasteful, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And and honestly, like even if I even if I

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to seduce you, why wouldn't you lean into that?

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<v Speaker 1>Like this is kind of crazy that that you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be so like anti flirtation, Like this is a

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<v Speaker 1>little weird.

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<v Speaker 6>It was intense and like you locked eyes like you

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<v Speaker 6>were issuing a challenge.

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<v Speaker 4>Well maybe I was. Maybe I was issuing a challenge

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<v Speaker 4>and maybe you failed.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh I don't fail.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't fail, Okay, prove it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you think I'm beautiful. You know, I'm funny,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hilarious, I smell amazing. Like, give me one good

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<v Speaker 1>reason that that you shouldn't want another date?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm serious, Matt.

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<v Speaker 5>Would you like to go on another day with Lazy?

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<v Speaker 5>We'll pay for it.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, here's the thing is is not like being in control?

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<v Speaker 6>And do you make that very hard?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>That just sounds scared all around.

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<v Speaker 6>Power plase, I'd rather be like a you know, hey, lady,

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<v Speaker 6>h lick that glass for me?

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<v Speaker 7>Whoa, lady, you know you better watch out.

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<v Speaker 4>I might lick your glass next time.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, but only if I give you permission. I'm not

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<v Speaker 6>like that all the time. I do like to be

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<v Speaker 6>in control of certain things, though.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, guys are so complicated.

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<v Speaker 6>So you know I can be in control if there's

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<v Speaker 6>a time for me to be in control, is right?

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<v Speaker 6>You know we can do that for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Lady.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, what do you think, lay It sounds

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<v Speaker 2>like Matt's down for another day?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>That is that?

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<v Speaker 5>A yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow?

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't think we get at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>But hey, okay, all right, congratulations another day, saying lady.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm all in.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sorry that the glass looking threw me off before,

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<v Speaker 6>but now I'm all in and I'm ready to show you. Oh, Matt, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>I love that.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, where's something that makes women stare at you? So

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<v Speaker 4>I can get tellous what I got? Just the thing,

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<v Speaker 4>Lady jubile, first dayfall up