1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: First date of follow up powered by the Advocates Injury 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: Attorneys online at Advocateslaw dot com. 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: Lacey is on the phone today for a first day 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: follow up, and she's getting ghosted by a guy named Matt. 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: So in a few minutes, we're gonna call Matt and 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: see if I tell us why he's ghosting her and 7 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: maybe get her another date. But first, Lacey, how long 8 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: has it been since you heard from Matt? Hey? 9 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, it's been a couple of weeks. Okay, I 10 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: don't really understand. 11 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, have you tried to get a hold of 12 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 3: him in that time? Like, see, okay I did? 13 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 4: I did? 14 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, So, like I texted him a couple of times, 15 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: you know, just like a casual like, hey, how's your 16 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: week going? You know, nothing like desperate. But yeah, it's 17 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: been two weeks, and uh, you know, in dating months 18 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: that that feels like engating time. That feels like two months. So, 19 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: I mean we had an amazing We had an amazing date, 20 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: and like, you know, I've dated guys where the connection 21 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: feels kind of flat and forced and stuff, but with him, 22 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: like I really I felt an immediate spark, which is 23 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: so rare and we were like speaking the same language, 24 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: like without even trying. It was we had this like magnetism. 25 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: I don't know how else to describe it. And I 26 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: would just hate to see that go. It's such a 27 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: hard thing to come by, it really is. 28 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 5: I hate that. But why don't you tell us about 29 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 5: that day? Why don't you tell us about the day? 30 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 5: How did it go? 31 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 4: I would love to. 32 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, So we went to this like really blanky cocktail lounge. 33 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: It was I mean it was like velvet couches and 34 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: like candlelit. It was very romantic, like upscale, you know. 35 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 1: The bartenders were in like fancy vests and oh my gosh. 36 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: And Matt It's just like one of those like annoyingly 37 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: handsome guys like who sometimes you know, somehow just like 38 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: makes eye contact feel like flirting, you know, like like 39 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: it just like pierces your soul. And we had these 40 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: like ridiculous drinks that like came in teacup. 41 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 4: Which was like so cute. 42 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: We were just like laughing the all time. He was 43 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: like teasing me about being too extra. When I asked 44 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: the bartender to like torch my lemon peel longer, you know, 45 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: we were we already had this like banter going. You 46 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: could really like feel it, and I had this feeling. 47 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: I remember thinking like, oh my gosh, I got these 48 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: people around us. I think we've been dating for a 49 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: really long time. 50 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 5: Oh you guys just flowed like that. 51 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, and there. 52 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: Was kissing a little more than a little more than kissing. 53 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 4: But you know, I will I'll spare you the details. 54 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 4: But he's a really. 55 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: Really good kisser, which is just all adding to like 56 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: why I'm so confused, because it was like one of 57 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: the best first dates. 58 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 4: I've ever had. 59 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: Okay, is there anything that you can think of at 60 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: all that would be the reason that he would be ghosting. 61 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: Maybe because I took a selfie during the date, like 62 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: a boat, like a both of us. 63 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean. 64 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: But I don't know, I don't I mean, he laughed, 65 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: like but maybe he thought it was like too aggressive 66 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: to be, you know, posting about us or you know, 67 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: even just taking a photo of us. But maybe he 68 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: thinks I'm like, you know, already planning our wedding or 69 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: something like. It didn't feel that way, you know, Yeah, 70 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 1: really good selfie. 71 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 5: By the way, did you post it anywhere? 72 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 4: No? No, no, I just it was just for like. 73 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 5: My own memories got you. Okay, I think I think 74 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 5: I was really good. You can be like, hey, baby, 75 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 5: is this is when Day and I met you know? 76 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. 77 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 5: Okay, Well we'll see where you figured it out for you. 78 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: Cut, well, play us on come back and then call 79 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting 80 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: you and maybe get you a second date. 81 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 5: Okay, okay, thank you. All right, we'll get your first 82 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 5: day follow up right after this. 83 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: Right in the middle of your first day followup, if 84 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: you're just joining us, Lacey is on the phone and 85 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: she's getting ghosted by a guy named Matt. So we're 86 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 2: about to call him and see if that's ALUs why 87 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: he's ghostinger and maybe get our second date. But before 88 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: we do that, Lacy, why don't you catch us up 89 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 2: on your date again real quick? 90 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 91 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: So, Matt and I went to this really twinky cocktail 92 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: lounge and got some drinks together and it was just 93 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: like so viby and romantic, and he was making eye 94 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: contact the whole time. We were laughing, we were you know, 95 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: poking fun at each other. It was there was kissing, 96 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: there was a little more than kissing, and I just 97 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: have no idea like, what possibly could have caused. 98 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 4: Him to ghost? 99 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 5: You think it might be because of the selfie that 100 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 5: you guys have. 101 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: I think that's literally the only thing I can think 102 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: of about that potentially. 103 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, warned me out of somebody took a selfie with 104 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 2: me on the first date, something I could. 105 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 3: See myself doing. But I understand why people might be 106 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 3: It's okay, lazy, I. 107 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 5: Feel you all right? Are you ready for us to 108 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 5: get him a call? 109 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 4: Yes? 110 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 5: Okay, here we go. 111 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 6: Hello? 112 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 5: Hi, may I speak to Matt? Please? 113 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 2: Hey, Matt? How are you? This is a radio show. 114 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: It's called The Jubile Show. 115 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 5: What's up? 116 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 7: Matt? 117 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 4: I'm Nina. 118 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,119 Speaker 5: Hi, I am Victoria and my name's Jubel. 119 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 6: Oh wow, I love. 120 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 5: That reaction every day. Have you ever listened to the 121 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 5: show before? 122 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 7: I have? 123 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: I have? 124 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 6: This is awkward and surprising. 125 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 5: Sweet. Thank you? Well, Matt. 126 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 2: Guess what what? We got an email about you from 127 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: somebody that you're ghosting. Isn't that fun? 128 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 6: Is this about Lacey? 129 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 5: Yes? Okay, it is about Lacey. So we talked to Lacey. 130 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: She told us about your date, you know, said that 131 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: she really liked you a lot of thought things were great, 132 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: but cannot figure out why you're ghosting her? Do you 133 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 2: mind telling us? 134 00:05:53,720 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, this is going to sound ridiculou, but I 135 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 6: swear it threw me off. Okay, So halfway through the date, 136 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 6: she licked the rim of her cocktail glass like like 137 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 6: slowly like and while maintaining eye contact, and truth be told, 138 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 6: I panicked, like I was, well, like in my head, 139 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 6: I was like, was that a move or was there 140 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 6: sugar stuck there? Like I didn't know how to handle it. 141 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 3: Okay, it would be kind of funny for a movement 142 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 3: a change how you how you view it, Like, is 143 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 3: it because it's a move that you were uncomfortable? 144 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 6: I just didn't know if like if she was messing 145 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 6: with me or if that's just how she drinks. It 146 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 6: was it was like a scene of a movie that 147 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,239 Speaker 6: I wasn't prepared for. 148 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 3: Like she was giving you a signal or something. 149 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 4: I don't know. 150 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 6: I don't know. And that's yeah, that I mean, that's 151 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 6: that's like literally why I haven't called it back because 152 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 6: like I was like, I can't read it. I don't 153 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:04,559 Speaker 6: know what this means. 154 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 5: Like how bad of a lick was it? Right? 155 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 6: Like I said, it was intense it was aggressive, almost 156 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 6: animal lesk like like. 157 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 2: Like did she pick the glass up and like lick 158 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 2: it from top to bottom or like all the around? 159 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 6: I mean it was like around the ram like she 160 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 6: picked it up, but like the whole time, like looking 161 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 6: at me. Yes, yeah, it just threw me off. It 162 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 6: was it was wild, like how. 163 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 5: Many times does she make it around the rim? 164 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 6: I didn't even count because it was one of those 165 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 6: things I was like, do I watch this? Is this? 166 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 6: Like I couldn't look away? But I also felt weird 167 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 6: looking at it, you know what I mean? 168 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, if it's what I'm picturing in my head 169 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 3: right now, I could see how that would be uncomfortable. 170 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I also see how I kind of dig it, 171 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: you like, staring you down just like. 172 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: This. 173 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, but that's the reason. 174 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's I mean, that's it. That's the reason. 175 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 5: Okay. 176 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 2: Well, guess what, Matt, I mean, you listen to these, 177 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: but I'm not sure if you remember Lacy is on 178 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 2: the phone listening and wants to talk to you. 179 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 6: Oh, I guess I should have known. 180 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 4: Hi, Hi Lacy, Hey Matt. Oh sorry, so I heard 181 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 4: the whole thing. You're you vanished over a glass? 182 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 5: Licking. 183 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 6: Is that yes? 184 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 4: Is that really? 185 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: Yes? 186 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 6: Yeah? Correct? 187 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm so sorry one second, Okay, sorry, I was 188 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: just taking a sip of water and licking the bottle. 189 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: Who yeah, Matt, No, I I was not seducing you. 190 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: There was literally cinnamon sugar on the rim, like you said, So, 191 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be. 192 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 4: Wasteful, you know. 193 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: And and honestly, like even if I even if I 194 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: was trying to seduce you, why wouldn't you lean into that? 195 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: Like this is kind of crazy that that you're going 196 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: to be so like anti flirtation, Like this is a 197 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: little weird. 198 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 6: It was intense and like you locked eyes like you 199 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 6: were issuing a challenge. 200 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 4: Well maybe I was. Maybe I was issuing a challenge 201 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 4: and maybe you failed. 202 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 6: Oh I don't fail. 203 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 4: You don't fail, Okay, prove it. 204 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: I mean you think I'm beautiful. You know, I'm funny, 205 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: I'm hilarious, I smell amazing. Like, give me one good 206 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: reason that that you shouldn't want another date? 207 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 4: I'm serious, Matt. 208 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 5: Would you like to go on another day with Lazy? 209 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 5: We'll pay for it. 210 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 6: Well, here's the thing is is not like being in control? 211 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 6: And do you make that very hard? 212 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? 213 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 5: That just sounds scared all around. 214 00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 6: Power plase, I'd rather be like a you know, hey, lady, 215 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 6: h lick that glass for me? 216 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 7: Whoa, lady, you know you better watch out. 217 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 4: I might lick your glass next time. 218 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 6: Okay, but only if I give you permission. I'm not 219 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 6: like that all the time. I do like to be 220 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 6: in control of certain things, though. 221 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 3: You know, guys are so complicated. 222 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 6: So you know I can be in control if there's 223 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 6: a time for me to be in control, is right? 224 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 6: You know we can do that for you. 225 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 4: Lady. 226 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 2: All right, Well, what do you think, lay It sounds 227 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 2: like Matt's down for another day? 228 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 7: Yeah? 229 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: That is that? 230 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 5: A yes? 231 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: Wow? 232 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 4: I didn't think we get at this point. 233 00:10:53,600 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 2: But hey, okay, all right, congratulations another day, saying lady. 234 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 4: Well, I'm all in. 235 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 6: I'm sorry that the glass looking threw me off before, 236 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 6: but now I'm all in and I'm ready to show you. Oh, Matt, oh, 237 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 6: I love that. 238 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 4: Hey, where's something that makes women stare at you? So 239 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 4: I can get tellous what I got? Just the thing, 240 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 4: Lady jubile, first dayfall up