1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Five from our nation's how do we reopen this economy? 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: The latest on how this pandemic is impacting farmers. What 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: does this do for the United States relationship with China? 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: Floomberg Sound On, The Insiders, the Influencers, the insides. We're 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: responding to this crisis and manufacturers are stepping up like 6 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: never before. We're looking at seventy Kennedy for different vectines. 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: How do we make sure a pandemic of this gale 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: never happens again? This is Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin 9 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: Surrelate on Bloomberg and one oh five point seven f 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: m h D two US stock slump after Falci and 11 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: the Fed set a somber tone, I've got your complete 12 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: markets wrap and Dr Fauci testifying virtually to the Senate. 13 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: He's warning warning about that early reopening could quote set 14 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: you back and cause death. Santhony Fauci the nation's top 15 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: infectious disease of visual warning against reopening the economy too soon. 16 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: But are the States going to listen? He says that 17 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: immunity to the COVID nineteen virus has yet to be proven. 18 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: It was a day of Fauci and the Fed and 19 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: we are going to check in on all fronts as 20 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: the House Democrats unveil a three trillion dollar aid bill 21 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: with cash cold cash folks for states three trillion dollars 22 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: of a virus relief bill. We have every angle covered. 23 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: Small business. Mike Jenks, general manager of W. S. Jenkson's Son, 24 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: the oldest hardware store in Washington, d C. Is gonna 25 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: give us a small business angle. Brendan Buck, partner at 26 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: seven Letter and former spokesman and adviser to how speaker 27 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: Paul Ryan gives us all of the politics from Capitol Hill. 28 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: Mark Shriver, president of the Save the Children Action Network, 29 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: is going to tell us about how teachers and Hollywood 30 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: are rallying together. But we're gonna begin with a controversial 31 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: techn anology topic on contact tracing. How do we stop 32 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: the virus? How does contact tracing? Have you heard this? 33 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: Using artificial intelligence? How do they do that in order 34 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: to get the data? Forget testing, well, don't forget testing, 35 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: but using testing and contact tracing to prevent the spread 36 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,399 Speaker 1: of the disease. We've got one of the top artificial 37 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: technology intelligence people UH calling in Dr Neil Robertson. He's 38 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: the chief Technology Officer and co founder of any Vision, 39 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: who's gonna talk about artificial intelligence for us? A complete 40 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: wrap on what Dr Anthony Fauci told House Democrats or 41 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: I'm sorry Senate the Senate today as House Democrats unveiled 42 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: a three trillion dollar aid bill with cash for the states, 43 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: and just to give a quick a quick recap, Anthony 44 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 1: Fauci told the Senate Health Committee on Tuesday that he's 45 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: concerned about the cities and states reopening without reaching quote 46 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: unquote checkpoints outlined by the administration and guidelines to help 47 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 1: them decide when it is saved. He said, quote, I 48 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: feel if that occurs, there is a real risk that 49 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: you will trigger an outbreak that you might not be 50 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: able to control. In fact, paradoxically, it will set you back, 51 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: not only leading to some suffering and death that could 52 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: be avoided, but it could even set you back on 53 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: the road on trying to get economic recovery that would 54 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: turn the clock back rather than going forward. End quote. 55 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: There were some contentionous points on Dr Anthony Fauci's testimony. 56 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: Uh Senator Patty Murray, the panel's ranking Democrats, said that 57 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: quote the Trump Administration's response to this public health emergency 58 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: so far has been as a disaster all its own. 59 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: Murray went on to say that there were delays and missteps, 60 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: and you know, look, I mean that's it was a 61 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: partisan hearing. It was virtual, but it was really the 62 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: first time that lawmakers have heard from from from Falci. 63 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: Kelly Leffler of Georgia, she's a Republican senator. She actually 64 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: said that all of the witnesses denied, but she portrayed 65 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: has been an inaccurate media report that they had strained 66 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: dealings with Trump's and she said that there's been uh 67 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: no confrontational relationship between her office and the president, which 68 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,239 Speaker 1: is interesting because she's been all up in the news. 69 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: A chairman of the committee, Alexander Lamar, Alexander he he 70 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: went on to say that he's in self quarantine actually 71 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: out of an abundance of caution. So, I mean, look, 72 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: it was I'm not sure we got anything new out 73 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: of it in terms of developments, but it was a 74 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: historic moment in the sense that Dr Anthony Fauci saying 75 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: don't reopen too fast because it could have the reverse 76 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: health effects. There's been a lot of talk in the news, 77 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: and this is why he's our first guest tonight. His 78 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: name is Dr Neil Robertson, chief technology officer and co 79 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: founder of any Vision, and there's been a lot of 80 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: talk in the news about how five G is going 81 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: to be impacted by this, how artificial intelligence in the 82 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: technology sector might be able to help trace the spread 83 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: of the virus. And it's also, as we talked about 84 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: it through the American Prism, you know, there are concerns 85 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: about civil liberties and rights, and so I want to 86 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: have him on. Dr Neil Robertson, who was profiled in 87 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: the New York Times just within the last week, within 88 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: the last couple of days, and the headline is Israeli 89 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: Army's ideal lab aims at a new target saving lives. 90 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 1: And I read this in the Times, Dr Robertson, and 91 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,119 Speaker 1: I thought I gotta get him on the program because 92 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: contact tracing is all anybody's talking about. It came up 93 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: a little bit in the hearing today, and I want 94 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: to give you the opportunity to explain to Americans what 95 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: precisely it is. Share Kevin, good to be with you, 96 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on UM. Now we want to 97 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: explain that intelligent computer vision can be used to make 98 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: the world safer, more secure and accessible. And as you mentioned, 99 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,799 Speaker 1: face recognition has has has had some controversy in the past, 100 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: but you know, we're prioritizing our best in class recognition 101 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: technology around the need to get businesses open, to to 102 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: make hospitals secure UM and to enhance safety and convenience. 103 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: And how that has manifested itself in reality is that 104 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: we've been working with hospitals to to help them do 105 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: contact tracing of individuals who are known to carry the coronavirus. 106 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: And you know, the the uniqueness of this is that 107 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: perfect knowledge of who who's in contact with who and 108 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: when they've been in contact and for how long UM 109 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: is what's generally required, appears according to experts, to flatten 110 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: the curve and you know, ultimately improve the quality of 111 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: life for people. And so you know, in a nutshell, 112 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: our recognition technology enables hospitals to in particular Sheeba Hospital Israel, 113 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: where we're running this system, to identify with with great accuracy, 114 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: you know, who who has been in contact with with 115 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: other people who are known to carry the virus. And 116 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: it's the only facial recognition technology UM that provides this 117 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: UM this certainty and this and this ability, and if 118 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: we look at other attempts to do contact tracing. UM, 119 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: certainly here in the UK, it's reliant on self identification, 120 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: on self reporting, on use of mobile phones, and we're 121 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: seeing that the uptake of that that is around which 122 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: is nowhere near high enough to to make the technology 123 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: really have a big impact on on suppressing the virus 124 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: on the phone. He's the chief technology officer and co 125 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: founder of any Vision, So I understand the benefits of it. 126 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: What do you say to critics? You say, hey, wait 127 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: a minute, this is like out of George orwell yeah, sure, 128 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: Well I I say, you know, I I share share 129 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: concerns about the misuse of technology, you know, everywhere, and 130 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: like any Vision has a lot of long history of 131 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: ensuring privacy and working within within strong ethical principles. And 132 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: what I would say about this in particular is that 133 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: you know, we worked mainly with businesses to provide access 134 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: to services, and in particular, like touchless access is a 135 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: big market for us, and that's going to be huge 136 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: um in the current the current climate that we live 137 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: in with the spread of germs and so on. But 138 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: in particular when you're working with the business, you know, 139 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: facial recognition us. The data that's already available to the business. 140 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: It's the photograph that's on your your past cards. There 141 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: there's nothing new that that that anyone has been asked 142 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: to give up UM and within the confines of that business, 143 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: you know, there's a there's a circle of trust. So 144 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 1: we provide an on premises sirs, that's very secure and 145 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: not it's not attached to external networks. Only the business 146 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: has access to the to the data on the on 147 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: the list of the gallery of people who are who 148 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: are working in that business. And you know there's intents 149 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: and leading cybersecurity in our in our servers and systems, 150 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: so you know, really a leakage is extremely unlikely and 151 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: I think it's fascinating. I find it fascinating. Dr Neil Robertson, 152 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: he's one of the leading UH individuals who is part 153 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: of this new industry of contact tracing. So many questions. 154 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: Very much appreciate your time. He's the chief technology officer 155 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: and co founder of any Vision. Coming up, we check 156 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: in with a small business right here in the nation's capital, 157 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: one of the oldest hardware stores inside the Beltway. I'm 158 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:52,119 Speaker 1: Kevin SURRELLI you're listening to Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg 159 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: Sound On with Kevin Surrel on Bloomberg and one oh 160 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: five point seven f M h D two. I'm Kevin Surrell, League, 161 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 1: Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and for Bloomberg Radio. 162 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: Lots of lots of local headlines to get through, especially 163 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 1: with now we've got some developments from Governor Northam, Democrat 164 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: of Virginia. Did you see this? Northern Virginia is going 165 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: to likely be excluded from the state's initial reopening. DC, 166 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: Maryland and Virginia are reporting. So look, I mean Arlington County, 167 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: Northern Virginia. Uh, they're going to be excluded from the 168 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: easing the easing of the restrictions. This is Dr Anthony 169 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: Fauci was testifying virtually on in the Senate for the 170 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: Senate Health Committee, and he says, you can't reopen too 171 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: fast because if you do, it could be a total cluster. 172 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing reading from the Bloomberg from the Washington Post. Rather, 173 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: John D. Harden reports, quote, Northern Virginia has averaged nearly 174 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: double the number of dale Lea coronavirus related depths in 175 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: recent days than the rest of the state in a 176 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 1: region that contains about one third of its population. Data 177 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: analyzed by The Washington Post shows the state recorded an 178 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: average of twenty fatalities daily over the most recent seven days. 179 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: And then we get this, So that's what's going on 180 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: in Virginia. Then Ovetta Wiggins and the wa PO is 181 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: reporting that hundreds have testified about Maryland's troubled jobless claims 182 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: systems UH and one by one, laid off workers told 183 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: a joint legislative panel about the frustrations they have endured 184 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: trying to get benefits under the state's new unemployment benefit 185 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: claims system. We've talked a lot about on this program 186 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: about how small businesses have been impacted. Yesterday we had UH, 187 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: the founder and CEO of the legendary iconic Cafe Milano 188 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: Franco New Chase. We've talked to Billy Martin and Martin's Tavern, Virginia, 189 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: Ali of Bench Chili Bowl. I wanted to check in 190 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: with one of the I think gets the oldest hardware 191 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: store in the district, and I got the general manager. 192 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: So we are going to check in now with Mike, 193 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: the general manager of w S Jenks and Son. Mike 194 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: I take it you are the son of W. S. 195 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 1: Jenks and son. Uh No, so actually, um, the original family. Um. Uh, 196 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: my grandfather bought the business from them in nineteen fifty two, 197 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: so they are Yeah, so I'm third generation uh in 198 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: our family. Who's who's a part of the business, and 199 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: my dad is currently the owner and operator. It's incredible, 200 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: It's an incredible, incredible story. Uh. How have you been impacted? 201 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: How has W. S. Jenkson's son the hardware store? How 202 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: has that been impacted by COVID nineteen? Um? Yeah, so 203 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: I would you know, on a we we do a 204 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: lot of commercial and government business and that generally will 205 00:12:55,760 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: equate to sixty seventy of our business. That's taken a 206 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 1: a pretty significant hit. But on a retail side, we've 207 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: actually seen a pretty positive increase. So we're um, you know, 208 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: we're we'll have good traffic in the store. We're very 209 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: responsibly operating. We've seen April twenty over April nineteen about 210 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: thirty increase in retail sales um but total sales for 211 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: the entire store and that includes the retail you know, 212 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: so that commercial, government, everything else we were down about 213 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: so um, you know, on on one on one hand, 214 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: you know, we're we're excited about the retail gains that 215 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: we've made. Um. And on the other hand, we're coping 216 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: with um some unexpected loss of significant revenue. So I mean, 217 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: you hear that, and you hear Foulcy testifying nationally, and 218 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: then you've got Mayor Bowser. How is how has it 219 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: been in terms of what you the what you've been getting, 220 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: the support you've been getting or not getting from both 221 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: the local government at the mayoral level and the federal government. 222 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: From your perspective as a small business owner or a 223 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:05,239 Speaker 1: small business man, well, you know, I think we're um, 224 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: you know, we're very fortunate we've been able to stay open, 225 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: you know, and in doing so, we've been very responsible. Um. 226 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: You know, I think us in similar businesses were demonstrated, Uh, 227 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: it's possible to remain open during the crisis and and 228 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: and be responsible in a way that mitigates risk for 229 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: employees and customers. UM. You know, I would hope you know, 230 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: I heard you're leading into this conversation talking about the 231 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: governor of Virginia. UM, you know, I would hope that 232 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: governors and mayors could be a little bit more surgical 233 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: and how they're treating businesses right now. I mean, if 234 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: you look at a small business um US as an example, 235 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: similar retailers who are allowed to stay open because we're 236 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: considered essential businesses. I mean, we're we're able to responsibly 237 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: and efficiently operate. I think of you know, there's a 238 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: great great art gallery and Old Town run by Todd Healy, 239 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: it's called Gallery Lafayette. Or Solid State Books, which is 240 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: a bookstore on H three. UM. You know, those are 241 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: businesses that can very easily make slight changes to their 242 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: operations UM and they could open their doors and then 243 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: they could also you know, let obviously let customers in, 244 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: and they could do it in a way that that 245 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: protects their employees and protected to hear. So what do 246 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: you need to hear as someone who's on the front 247 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: lines of this, as someone who's managing employees on the 248 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: front lines of this. Do you need guidelines? Do you 249 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: need standards? We had a lawmaker on from the other 250 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: week from the from the from the Bipartisan Problem Solvers 251 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: Caucus who released the standards and said small businesses need 252 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: to have standards. They need to have they need to 253 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: have the plexiglass standards for the between customers and whatnot, 254 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: and and you know you need to have social distancing markets. 255 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: What do you as an actual small business in the 256 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: in the district, what do you need from government? Sure 257 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: if they if they wanted to give us standards that 258 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: we would need to abide by, I'd be happy to 259 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: follow them. I think in our case and a lot 260 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: of a lot of similar businesses, we sort of there 261 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of guidelines from the outset. We were 262 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: allowed to stay open. We we created the standards. I 263 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: mean they should actually be coming to us and asking 264 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: what do you think it is a good way? How 265 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: are you able to operate effectively? How are you able 266 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: to make it to your customers skill stafe and coming 267 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: into your establishment? They should be coming to us, I 268 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: think and asking for uh, good policies and procedures on 269 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: how to move forward. So other businesses, um, who are 270 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: similar to ours, who aren't allowed to stay open right now, um, 271 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: you know they could could follow the standards that businesses 272 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: like ours have said. I would hope instead of government 273 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: mandating what we should be doing, I think they should 274 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: be asking us, the ones who have successfully done it, 275 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: what is the correct approach to making sure that your employees, 276 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: your customers, and everyone else who comes in the buildings. Um, 277 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: we've had we've had conversations. UM, we were proactive about them. 278 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: I mean, nobody's come to us specifically, but yeah, we 279 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: had we we've talked to members of city council in 280 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: d C. UM. I don't I don't know how much 281 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: they've they've listened, but I would say that if they 282 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: are listening, UM, if you're trying to figure out what 283 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: is the best procedures to move forward with, I would 284 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: I would ask small businesses. A lot of us were 285 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: able to change how we're operating overnight, and I think 286 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: we're doing a very very good job of running a 287 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: business in the COVID nineteen era. Alright, Mike, General manager 288 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: of W. S. Jenks and Son, which is the oldest 289 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: hardware store in Washington, d C. It was founded in 290 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: eighteen sixty six. That I get that right. Yes, Wow, 291 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: thanks so much for checking in. It doesn't Thanks so 292 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: much for all the work that you guys are doing. 293 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: Coming up, we go back to Capitol Hill. Brendan Buck, 294 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Sirelli. You're listening to Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg. 295 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: Sound on with Kevin Surrele on Bloomberg and one or 296 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: five point seven f m h D two. I'm Kevin Sireli, 297 00:17:55,480 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: Chief Washington correspondent from Bloomberg Television and from Bloomberg Radio. 298 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,719 Speaker 1: And coming up, we're gonna check in with Mark Shriver. 299 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: Mark Shriver, he's the president of the Save the Children 300 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: Action Network. What are they doing to help kids? What 301 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: are they doing? They've gotten celebs, you see that Jennifer Gardner, 302 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: she's been reading books for kids. So we're gonna get 303 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,959 Speaker 1: an update on the life and times of Mark Shriver. 304 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: But first we go to another DC inside her, Brendan Buck, 305 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: partner at seven Letter and a former spokesman and advisor 306 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: to how speaker Paul Ryant. You know the Democrats today. Brendan, 307 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: First of all, how are you. I haven't talked to 308 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: you since before all this went down. You're holding up, okay, buddy, Yeah, 309 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: I'm doing alright. It's good. I appreciate that, Brendan, because 310 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: most people don't feel that way, and most people would 311 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: prefer not to hear Kev's voice. So it's always nice 312 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: to hear from a good friend. House Democrats unveiled three 313 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: trillion dollar aid bill with cash for states. Is this 314 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: gonna go anywhere? Or is this just a messaging bill? 315 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 1: And why would Speaker Pelosi, I have the inkling it's 316 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: a messaging bill? Why would she make a messaging bill 317 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: UM in a polarizing time right now when the last 318 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: round of economic stimulus fights they weren't as significant battles. Yeah, 319 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: I mean it's a messaging bill, but I think it's 320 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: it's something else even more than that. And I think 321 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: it's it's member management UM, meaning she needed to give 322 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 1: her members something to stand for, something to before they 323 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: felt largely cut out of the process of the previous bills, 324 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: and there was just some pent up demand. So it's 325 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: not going anywhere. Obviously she knows that, and it's largely 326 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: I think disconnected from whatever the end of the day 327 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: legislation is UM, you know, whatever wherever they end up, 328 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: whether that's UH in a couple of weeks or a 329 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,479 Speaker 1: couple of months from now. I don't know that this 330 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: really has any any meaning for it. I think this 331 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: was just pent up demand that they needed to that 332 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: they needed to to do something with UM. I'm really 333 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: concerned though, like where they come together at the end 334 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: of the day on this. There's not a lot of overlap. 335 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: You mean, there are a lot of stuff in there, 336 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: but there is a whole lot of stuff that you 337 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: see Republicans want, either in that bill or just in general. 338 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: So I'm really interested to see what brings them together, 339 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: what is the what is the Republican asks that they're 340 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: going to trade to get some of those other things. 341 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: I think we've got a long road to go on this. 342 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: And and you know, the real possibility that there isn't 343 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: another bill, So, I mean the very real possibility that 344 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: there isn't another bill. As this is, there's been a patchwork, 345 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: at best putting it as such of a reopening strategy 346 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: at on the state by state level that in and 347 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: of itself is confusing enough to try to figure out 348 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: what's open and what what's not, what's closed? When are 349 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: they phase one phase two for all fifty states. It's 350 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: been a headache to try to track it all. Meanwhile, 351 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: as you just alluded to, how does Speaker Pelosi from 352 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: even from a from a from a purely procedural standpoint, 353 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: how does she even this? Yeah, I mean, I the 354 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: reporting is that she has been doing a lot of 355 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: lake work on this making a lot of calls, talking 356 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: to all the right people that they need to talk to. 357 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: But I gotta tell you, it is astonishing to see 358 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: legislation of that size be dropped on a Tuesday and 359 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: going to pass on be passed on a Friday without 360 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 1: anybody being able to have a face to face meeting 361 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: about it. Um. You know, we used to have to 362 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: pass you know, maybe a trillion dollar bill that was 363 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: like a must pass bill, and that was super hard 364 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: to be able to pull off. And usually you know, 365 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: you can count on bipartisan support for this. This is 366 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: quite the feat. Um. You know, it's easy when everybody 367 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: gets everything they want. Um. Maybe the progressive caucuses say 368 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,959 Speaker 1: they haven't gotten everything they want. Um, But this is 369 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: a breathtaking bill, uh in it in its scope and 370 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 1: its ambition. Um. You know, hat tipped to her if 371 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: if she can pull that off again, I don't think 372 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: it really needs much in terms of where we end 373 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: up at the end of the day. Um, But this 374 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: is a historic and how big it is. So Meanwhile, 375 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has said, not so fast. 376 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: He doesn't want to give a blank check to UH individuals, 377 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: UH to states. Rather he doesn't want to give a 378 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: blank check to states, especially when we don't know when 379 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: things are going to have to reopen, when they're not 380 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: going to reopen phase one, phase two. Where where is 381 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: the Senate right now in terms of putting together the 382 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 1: foundation of even of the next round of stimulists. Yeah, 383 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: obviously there's a lot of fatigue from the previous rounds 384 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: of legislation. You know. I think they were all a 385 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 1: little shaken by how quickly the first round of the 386 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: paycheck Protection Program ran out and they had to re 387 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: up that, um, you know, and and the numbers just 388 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: got really high, really fast. Want to challenge for Republicans 389 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 1: in general is just the restlessness of the Republican based 390 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: voters out there, um, you know, even the things that 391 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: would normally bring them back to the table, like the 392 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: demand for the PPP program is falling off. Um. And 393 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: what it feels like is the Republican solution to everything 394 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: very quickly is just going to be opened back up. 395 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: As then we don't need to do anything. The solution 396 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: is you open back up. UM. I think that's a 397 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: little simplistic and maybe misses the mark a little bit, um, 398 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: but it's clearly where they're going um, but at the 399 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: end of the day, this is going to come down 400 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: to the White House. You know, if if they make 401 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: a political decision, and you know, these things are political, 402 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: that more needs to be done, that there are states 403 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: that he, the President, is going to lose in November 404 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: because they are not doing enough. I think he'll be 405 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: able to motivate McConnell's to sort of come off of 406 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: his what you know, it could just be a negotiating position, 407 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: but right now it seems like very little interest in 408 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: actually doing anything. Brendan Bucks on the line. He's a 409 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: partner at Seven Letter. Previously, he was a senior adviser 410 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: to former Speaker Speaker of the House, Paul Ryan. You 411 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: mentioned the election campaign and some of those battleground states. 412 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: The President likely or could be headed to Allentown, Pennsylvania 413 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: in the second half of this week to tour a plan. 414 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 1: He was previously in Arizona touring another Honeywell plant. Take 415 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: us to the battleground states Michigan, Wisconsin, to some extent Pennsylvania. 416 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: How have you noticed this playing in the field. Uh? Yeah. 417 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: The obvious big development that has changed probably from last 418 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: time and just in recent months has been the president's 419 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: slippage with with older Americans. UM, that's been remarkable and 420 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: we haven't talked about that enough. And folks, if you've 421 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: been following the polls, what Brendan is alluding to is 422 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: this dip of support not amongst the base of the 423 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: Republican Party, but amongst senior citizens. Explain that to us 424 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: and how it relates to these battleground states. Uh, Well, 425 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 1: for you know, at the most basic level, UH, older 426 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: Americans vote, They come out and they vote, UM, and 427 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: they're the most reliable voting block that there is. And 428 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: there's so there's a lot of votes that are to 429 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: be had. And if you're and that the president did 430 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 1: relatively well with them last time around, and so if 431 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: his if a large group of his UH coalition is slipping, 432 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: that that's a big problem him. Um. You know, it's 433 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to necessarily dive too deep into two 434 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: causes for it, but you have to think that that 435 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: a lot of it is related to this response and 436 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: that older Americans are more concerned about the health aspect 437 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: of this than than anybody else. Obviously, you know, it 438 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: disproportionately affects them and the death rates and complications that 439 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: you've seen. And if there is a perception that the 440 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: president is being somewhat cavalier in the health public health 441 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: aspect of it, you could see an obvious correlation to 442 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: a slippage among seniors. Um and if that, uh, you know, 443 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: bears itself out in some of these states that have 444 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 1: a lot of older voters, like a Wisconsin or Michigan 445 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: or a Pennsylvania, that could be trouble. You know, it's 446 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: an you pull out today from Marquette University in Wisconsin, 447 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,719 Speaker 1: it's got Joe Biden upon the president only you know, 448 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: three percent. But uh, you know, if if he loses Wisconsin, 449 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: if he loses Michigan, and you're even staying down in Florida, 450 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: which has been you know, a relatively solid red state 451 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: for the president, but there's obviously a lot of older 452 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: people in Florida, and if he were to slip so 453 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: bad down there and lose Florida, that would be big 454 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: trouble for us. So, I mean, no one's really seen 455 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. I mean, he's given some interviews, he was 456 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: on Good Morning America, etcetera. But no one's really seen him. 457 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: There doesn't there isn't obviously a traditional campaign. So what 458 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: does it say that that that Biden is doing pretty 459 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: well in the States and Trump is is slipping. Yeah, 460 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 1: I mean, I think ultimately this election was whether this 461 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: happened or not. This election was always going to be 462 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: about Donald Trump. Um. And you know, it's never ideal 463 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 1: to be, you know, stuck in your basement during a campaign. 464 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: But also you know, it really doesn't change the dynamic 465 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 1: that everyone's eyes are on the president and you're probably 466 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: going to be casting your vote one way or the 467 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 1: other on on whether you approve or disapproeve with the president. 468 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 1: And Joe Biden was as a candidate, is not someone 469 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: who's really trying to rock the boat. He's not trying 470 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: to offer his own revolution. Uh. He really does want 471 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: this to be a referendum. And in a very strange way, 472 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: this whole situation is playing right into that. Um. You know, 473 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 1: I assume they would like to have a little more 474 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: control over over there, their destiny here, and it's it's 475 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 1: a interesting irony that the President's ability to respond to 476 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: this will sort of determine how long Joe Biden is 477 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: locked in his basement. Um. But at the end of 478 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: the day, I think he's happy to have the focus 479 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: on the president in the Rose Garden talking about these 480 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: things day after day. Partner at seven Letter, and of 481 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: course the former senior advisor to House Speaker Paul Ryan. 482 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for coming in and checking in with us. 483 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: Brendan coming up, we check him and Mark Sdriver. I'm 484 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 1: Kevin Sarelli. You're listening to Bloomberg and I knew I one. 485 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 1: You're listening to Bloomberg. Sound on with Kevin Surrele on 486 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: Bloomberg and one oh five point seven f m h 487 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: D two. Let's mix it up a little bit. My 488 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: name is Kevin Sirelei. I'm the chief Washington correspondent for 489 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Television and for Bloomberg Radio. So much really just 490 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: heavy news, heavy, heavy news. Especially today, You've got Dr 491 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: Anthony Fauci testifying virtually on the Hill telling the Senate, 492 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: hey can't reopen too fast. You've got mixed messages coming 493 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: on reopening in the d m V region. Governor Northam 494 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: Democrat Virginia saying Northern Virginia not going to be reopening 495 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: like the other parts of the states are. We still 496 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: don't know what Bowser is gonna do. Mayor Marriel Bowser 497 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: is gonna do here in Washington, d C. We should 498 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: get an update by the end of the week, uh, 499 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: in terms of reopening and the social distancing. And then 500 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: you got what's going on in Maryland sun reopenings, but 501 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: school closures and whatnot. It's heavy, folks, it's heavy. The 502 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: market whip selling at tensions with China. I need some hope. 503 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: I need some hope. And so I was watching Morning 504 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: Show just the other day and I saw some hope. 505 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: I saw Mark Shriver, and I thought, that's the guy 506 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: who wrote one of my favorite books, My Search for 507 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: the Real Pope Francis. It's a great book. It's about 508 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: Pope Francis. Who am I to judge? An iconic line 509 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: for people like me? And I thought, Mark Shriver's talking 510 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: about uh, Save the Children Action Network, and he's actually 511 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: bringing together Republicans and Democrats. And then I check in 512 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: with Senator Joanie Aren't, Republican from Iowa, and she's tweeting 513 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: out about how she's leading a bipartisan group of senators 514 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: pushing for additional support for our child care community as 515 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,959 Speaker 1: folks combat the virus. Mark Shriver, of course is behind 516 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: this anywhere there's something going on with to Save the 517 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: Children Action Network. There he is. Mark, Thanks so much 518 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: for joining us on the program. You very much coming out, 519 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: a very nice introduction. I don't think I should talk 520 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: at all. Just let you keep going. My mom always 521 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: told me I talked too much as a kid. Uh, 522 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: you got you got the right job in there. Thank you. 523 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: Tell me about what you guys are doing in this 524 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: time of crisis, for for the for the kids. He's 525 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: the president. By the way, I've saved the Saved the 526 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: Children Action Network. Yes, thanks Kevin, so yeah. SCAN. Save 527 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: the Children Action Network is five oh one C four. UM. 528 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: It is the political arm or political advocacy arm for 529 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: Save the Children, which, as you know, was started in 530 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: nineteen nine and the UK came to American nineteen thirty 531 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: two actually to deal with to try to feed children 532 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: impacted by the Great Depression, and we were running programs 533 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: all across the country. Now today, UM, the work that 534 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: we do through Save the Children Action Network is really 535 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: to try to create a mobilization effort across America on 536 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: behalf of children's needs here in the US, including childcare, 537 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: which is what Senator Earnest and Senator cinema or co 538 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: sponsor or introducing legislation arou ound submitting a letter rather 539 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: about trying to increasing amount of money federal dollars going 540 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: into childcare. UM. So we we work all across the country. 541 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: We have about three fifty thousand grassroots volunteers working on 542 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: the child care issue here in the United States and 543 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: also trying to increase the commitment for international aid for 544 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: mothers and children all around the world. So that's what 545 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: SCAN does, UM. And we're trying to, as you said, 546 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: work bipartisan, and there is a lot of bipartisans support 547 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: both in d C but also in state governments for 548 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: the importance of early childhood education and child care falls 549 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: under that banner. See Mark, I mean, this is what 550 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: I was just having. This is what I'm af fair. 551 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: When I'm off work, unplugged, one of the things that 552 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: I say to my friends is I can't comprehend this. 553 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: You know, I'm trying, you know, I'm reporting on it, 554 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: I'm interviewing people, but I cannot truthfully, I cannot comprehend it. 555 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: I come from a family of teachers. My mom a teacher, 556 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: my sister a teacher in Baltimore City Public schools and 557 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: I hear what what they do and it it I 558 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: have a speechless and you hear right now kids all 559 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: over the world. But let's focus on America for right 560 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: now that are going through just you know hell, and 561 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: what what is the what is the need mark right 562 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: now that you guys are because of COVID nineteen that 563 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: you guys are just number one trying to address. Give 564 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: us some like quick things. We'll say the children is 565 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: focused in rural America and the needs in rural America. 566 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: I work in Baltimore City for you know, six years. Uh, 567 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: it's completely different almost country. Um. You know, if you're 568 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: working in a public school in Baltimore, you can walk 569 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: to that school. Uh there's public transportation. If you're in 570 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: rural America, Um, there aren't. You know, it's a bus ride, 571 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: it's an our bus ride. It's you know, families don't 572 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: have cars, can afford gas if they do have cars 573 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: to drive to the schools. So there's a whole different 574 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,239 Speaker 1: infrastructure issue going on in rural America than it is 575 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: in urban settings or suburbans settings. And they're they're all bad, 576 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: I would say. In rural America, it's a really big 577 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: challenge right now. So say the children programmatically is supplementing 578 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: the money that goes to public schools so that they 579 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: can afford to put gas and trucks and buses to 580 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: deliver food to families. There were supplying educational resources because 581 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: in rural America, you know, the broadband UM coverage is 582 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: roughly six in urban settings it's UM. So we're, you know, 583 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: trying to distribute twentieth century learning tools, UM, not twenty 584 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: one century, but twentieth century learning tools in rural America. 585 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: So we're doing that from a programmatic perspective, filling and 586 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: the bellies and the minds of kids. We're doing in 587 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: partnership with No Kid Hungry, which is started by Billy 588 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: Shore and is doing great work across the country as well. 589 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: From an advocacy perspective, that's what Center Earns in Center 590 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: SEMA are asking the federal government to invest in childcare. 591 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: And we just released a whole Save the Children action 592 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: network dot org. You can go and see the poll 593 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: results where almost of Americans believe that the federal government 594 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:12,240 Speaker 1: should support childcare. Uh. And that's really early childhood education. 595 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,399 Speaker 1: As your mom and sister would tell you, the brain 596 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: growth in those first five years of life. Your brain 597 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: growth in the first five years of life, But we 598 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,280 Speaker 1: don't invest in childcare and early education. But it cuts 599 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: across political parties like Kevin and that's really important. Republicans 600 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: and Democrats supported and as they said, it's almost had. 601 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: And our posters who are again Republicans and Democrats, had 602 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: a great article in UM Real Clear Politics the other 603 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: day seen in their forty years of polling, they've never 604 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: they have rarely seen an issue that is this good 605 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: and has much this much bipartisan support. But kids don't vote, 606 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: and they don't give political campaign contributions, and they don't 607 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: honestly have a seat at the table. And that's why 608 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: I Save the Children Action Network was created six years 609 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 1: ago and their parents Mark Shivers on the line, president 610 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: of Save the Children, and you know, I just in 611 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 1: stick with COVID nineteen and then and then you know, 612 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: two minutes that we have left. You know, you hear 613 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: about COVID nineteen and kids who are uh in underserved 614 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:17,760 Speaker 1: communities and they're at home, you know, just difficult situations. 615 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,479 Speaker 1: What has been the one what has been the one 616 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:27,760 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen cry for help that needs action now? Immediately 617 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 1: yesterday that lawmakers really need to step up to the 618 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 1: plate to address I think it's can I say, Tom, 619 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, go ahead, say it's we got to 620 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,879 Speaker 1: do better for our kids by food. And I mean 621 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: that a lot of schools are in such thin margins 622 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: with their with their own tax bass that they don't 623 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: have resources to feed kids in the summer. And there 624 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: are literally children every summer that are you know, food insecure. 625 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: They don't, they're starving. And this summer is going to 626 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: be the longest summer we've ever faced. So you have 627 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: huge education laws, and you have huge food laws for 628 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: a lot of these kids. And then you know, for 629 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: parents that are trying to go back to work, if 630 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: you don't have childcare, what you can't go back to work. 631 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 1: And the federal government is not invested in, you know, 632 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: supporting childcare businesses, which again are working on such thin 633 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: margins um So if your listeners are out there are 634 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:22,439 Speaker 1: interested in economic stimulation and ECONO on the economy, parents 635 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 1: aren't going to go back to work if they don't 636 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: if their childcare is not open, and you know, schools 637 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 1: are all closed, and that's you know, there's over six 638 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: and a half million children under the age of five 639 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: who are in regular childcare arrangements with a nonparent, and 640 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 1: that's one point five million people doing the network. And 641 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: those businesses, those childcare businesses are shuttered and the government 642 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 1: has not been supporting them to the degree they need to. 643 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 1: So those are two big issues. Mark Shivers, thanks so much, 644 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: President of Stave the Children Action That we're quick answer 645 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: because we're gonna run out of time. What's your favorite book? 646 00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: I mean, besides the one eye wrote, yeah, the uh, 647 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: the easy answer is The Strength to Love by Martin 648 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: Luther King. It's a collection of his sermons and they 649 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: are powerful and beautiful, very good. I needed that today. 650 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: All right, Thank you very much to Mark Driver, President 651 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: the State of the Children Action Network. Call back in anytime. 652 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 1: Tell us what what else you've got going on. I'm 653 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: Kevin Severely, Chief Washington correspondent, fro Bloomberg TV and from 654 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio much more all throughout the week on coronavirus coverage. 655 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 1: You're listening to Bloomberg One