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Speaker 1: This is the Colts Daily Update, a look at the

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Speaker 1: latest with the Indianapolis Colts. Now here's the voice of

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Speaker 1: the Colts, Matt Taylor. Welcome into a Colts Daily Update.

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Speaker 1: On a Thursday. Things have kind of slowed down here

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Speaker 1: at camp. We had two joint practices out here up

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Speaker 1: at Grand Part four Training Camp, presented by Course and

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Speaker 1: Fire and Security. I'm Casey Value in for Matt Taylor.

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Speaker 1: He's had a handful of roles here after practice today,

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Speaker 1: So I'm sliding into this seat. I'm joined by JJ

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Speaker 1: Stinkovitzcolts dot Com. Like I said, it's kind of winding down.

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Speaker 1: The fans have kind of left, both teams are gone,

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Speaker 1: so it's you know, kind of quiet out here, Jj,

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Speaker 1: And that's how I would probably describe practice today exactly,

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Speaker 1: a little bit quiet, right, That's that's kind of what

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Speaker 1: I was talking about with. If I looked at, you know,

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Speaker 1: stuff I saw today, I felt like, for the most part,

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Speaker 1: you saw good things out of both sides, but there

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Speaker 1: wasn't even that really stood out. If you had to

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Speaker 1: kind of look into today, what was your biggest takeaway today?

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's just that the the quality of

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Speaker 1: the work is still really good. There were no skirmishes

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Speaker 1: at all, not even a kerfuffle, which is now two

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Speaker 1: straight day, two consecutive days. I've used that word on

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Speaker 1: the daily update. I should earn a trophy for that.

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Speaker 1: None of that really going on, just good solid work

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Speaker 1: and again nothing nothing that really you know, kind of

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Speaker 1: was eye popping. Early on in eleven on eleven, Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Taylor ripped off an explosive run. We know he can

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Speaker 1: do that, certainly, It's it's always good to see it

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Speaker 1: pop up. During training camp, I saw Mike Strong get

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Speaker 1: involved quite a bit with the second team offense. I

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Speaker 1: watched a lot of the defense today. I saw a

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Speaker 1: lot of good things out of Grover Stewart, who's quietly

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Speaker 1: having a really good camp. And saw a couple other

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Speaker 1: plays from guys like EJ. Speed had an interception in

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Speaker 1: the end zone, Curtis Brooks, the young defensive tackle, blew

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Speaker 1: up a run play, and Chris Wilcox, the second year cornerback,

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Speaker 1: had a pass breakup. But other than that, you know,

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Speaker 1: just good day at work. That's one of the things

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Speaker 1: I really like that you you talked about Grover Stewart.

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Speaker 1: I think he's kind of that guy that we're glad

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Speaker 1: doesn't have that national pub because we come out and

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Speaker 1: see what he does every day. I'm kind of glad

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Speaker 1: he kind of floats under the radar because he is,

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Speaker 1: I mean, sneakily one of the I mean, he's probably

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Speaker 1: one of the best players at his position in the league.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that one technique spot technique, Yeah is and he's

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Speaker 1: he's kind of I don't want I don't want to

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Speaker 1: make it as a I know you guys talked about

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Speaker 1: this on the podcast where he has a track background

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Speaker 1: and all of that stuff, so I don't want to

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Speaker 1: say this as a stab. But he's sneakily pretty quick

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Speaker 1: for his size, so and that really benefits for sure,

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Speaker 1: and that really works well with the way the Colts

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Speaker 1: want their defensive line to play, which is penetrating get

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Speaker 1: after the quarterback, attack the cornerback, the quarterback and Grover.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think we're focused on DeForrest Buckner and

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Speaker 1: how that was going to help him and Quitty Pay

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Speaker 1: how it would help Grover. Stewart agreed, but this dude's

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Speaker 1: been in the backfield an awful lot during during training camp.

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Speaker 1: Really encouraging to see that, and you know you're not

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Speaker 1: but just again, quarterbacks hate pressure in their face. And

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Speaker 1: really encouraging thing for this defense. Now, we mentioned that

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Speaker 1: think Mike Strawn. I mean I didn't expect him to

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Speaker 1: if maybe they do continue to keep four, we don't

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Speaker 1: of those plays that the Colts did best involved Drew Ogletree.

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Speaker 1: So now it's a challenge to the coaching staff of

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Speaker 1: You're probably right now. That kind of brings me to

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Speaker 1: I know we saw a lot of the really good

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Speaker 1: I think you know, a couple of guys who I'm

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Speaker 1: You know, I was talking to Joe Rights during practice.

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Speaker 1: Wrights's word that that Bernard Rayman's having a pretty solid

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Speaker 1: relationship he's had with Scottie Montgomery and again the vision

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