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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolli. He is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Well Matt the first Wednesday Practices in

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Speaker 2: the Books post by heard from Kenny Pickett today. I

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Speaker 2: heard from a lot of guys today.

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Speaker 3: Paper none of that, So I'm interested to hear.

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Speaker 2: Pickett said that you don't look they're they're energized here.

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Speaker 2: They were very critical of the offense and its performance

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Speaker 2: in the first half of the season, as they should

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Speaker 2: have been good. And he said, they feel like they've

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Speaker 2: You said, you sit down, you take a look at

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Speaker 2: the plays, because they have all the plays. You know,

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Speaker 2: they're all basically now with everything you know. Back in

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Speaker 2: the old days twenty five years ago, thirty years ago,

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Speaker 2: he probably would have to map that stuff out by hand.

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Speaker 2: Now it's just all there. All the information is there,

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Speaker 2: what plays worked, what plays didn't work. So what can

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Speaker 2: they now throw out of the playbook? Yeah, what can

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Speaker 2: they take it? Okay, these plays work. Now we can

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Speaker 2: take use these plays and add to them and things

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Speaker 2: like that. So it feels like they're in a better

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Speaker 2: place right now.

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Speaker 3: So the last time I was with a team was

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Speaker 3: over twenty years ago. That was Ben's rookie year, and

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Speaker 3: frankly I didn't get involved with any of that stuff,

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Speaker 3: but my pit ears in the GA room. We had

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Speaker 3: a defensive GA and offensive GA and me I was

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Speaker 3: the recruiting guy. You know, I watched tape, but I

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Speaker 3: didn't do the same things coaching stuff they did those

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Speaker 3: four guys. I mean the second we either landed on

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Speaker 3: our flight or as soon as you could get out

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Speaker 3: of what was then Heinz Field and rush back to

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Speaker 3: the facility. They had to put all that information in

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Speaker 3: by hand, you know, like in this huge spreadsheet. They're

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Speaker 3: typing it in, typing in blah blah blah, making sure

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Speaker 3: they don't screw up, double checking like four games of

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Speaker 3: the opponent as well. And now I'm almost certain every

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Speaker 3: team they just want to fill people in on this.

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Speaker 3: You know, we'll talk to Steelers specific. I think they

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Speaker 3: just downloaded from a service. I think it's like Sports

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Speaker 3: Information Solutions or whatever. They do the work for you. Boom,

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Speaker 3: it's in there. Sort anything you want probably has like

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Speaker 3: success rate in there. All that kind of stuff. However,

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Speaker 3: you want to sort it anything you want, third and

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Speaker 3: long from shotgun with two backs, you know, whatever you want,

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Speaker 3: and it's easy to filter what's working and what isn't.

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Speaker 3: But you also need a sample size to do it,

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, two games is not enough. Yeah, we talked

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Speaker 2: about that.

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Speaker 3: They get it out a month ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about that when you talked about, well,

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Speaker 2: why didn't they use play action from much the first

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Speaker 2: couple weeks of the season. In one of those games,

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Speaker 2: it was the entire second half against the San Francisco

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Speaker 2: forty nine ers where play action was going to be

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Speaker 2: worthless to you. Yeah, because the forty nine ers knew

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Speaker 2: you weren't going to try to run the football in

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Speaker 2: that situation. Down three scores and hey, I.

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Speaker 3: Love trends and I love tendencies and all that stuff

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Speaker 3: as much as I can find. But like that game

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Speaker 3: in particular, if if you're criticizing Steeler offense, you could

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Speaker 3: be like, well, every time they're in shotgun they throw, Well,

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Speaker 3: the whole second half they were in shotgun.

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Speaker 2: They were throwing it. They threw the ball fifty times

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Speaker 2: in that game.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't a competitive neutral script you know, like a lot

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Speaker 3: of the smart people go, well, what are they doing

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Speaker 3: in a neutral script?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: You know? Right, lose them by ten with one minute left,

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Speaker 3: You're probably not running a lot of power.

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing. You know, what do you do

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Speaker 2: when you're either up by one score or down by

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Speaker 2: one score? And I don't care what time of the

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Speaker 2: game it is, what do you what do you do

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Speaker 2: when you you can do what you want to do right.

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Speaker 3: Right right when you really have a true choice?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean that, because but you're

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Speaker 2: down two scores in late in the third quarter, every window,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And frankly, or if you're up.

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Speaker 2: By two scores, you're just gonna run the football basically.

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Speaker 2: You know again that that game against the Raiders, they

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Speaker 2: up three scorers basically in the fourth quarter. They weren't

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Speaker 3: Right, you know, Like the Rams are a perfect example.

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Speaker 3: Like this past week against Arizona, they threw all over them,

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Speaker 3: I'm walk out, sit on it. Kicking off eight runs

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Speaker 3: in a row, you know, like, is that tendency?

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Speaker 2: I guess.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if they were losing, they wouldn't have ran.

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Speaker 2: The ball all the time. Sean McVay. All he wants

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Speaker 3: I mean, if that had have been a pick sixty

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Speaker 2: It was very much like the script that the Steelers

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, in contrary to popular belief, the Niners,

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Speaker 3: the Eagles, these teams have been real successful and you know,

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Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of surprise. I just reminded me

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Speaker 2: more fourth quarter leads than any team in the league.

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Speaker 2: That's all you do is run the ball. How can you?

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Speaker 2: How can you bleed? Like At the same at the

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Speaker 2: same time that it made me think about it, I'm like, well,

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Speaker 2: it's because they don't they blow out some teams, but

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Speaker 2: because of the way that they play, the style that

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Speaker 2: they played all also allows teams to hang around, as

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Speaker 2: they found out against the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I saw that two ways. First of all, kudos,

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Speaker 2: A lot of halftime a lot of half time leads.

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Speaker 3: They're as good as anybody over the Harbaugh era, getting

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Speaker 3: up early and in the day, they'd run it down

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Speaker 3: your throat with whoever it was over. Very few teams

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Speaker 3: came from behind. Now there's a huge shink in the

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Speaker 2: They were one for six in the red zone in

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Speaker 2: that game, by the way, I looked that up today.

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Speaker 3: One for six. Well, yeah, I mean, chucker and six

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Speaker 2: Only one of them was like beyond thirty yards? They

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean red zone offense is dying quickly

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I think that's interesting, you know, is why

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Speaker 3: are the right Why are the Ravens squandering leads they

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Speaker 3: did the Steelers. I mean they've been doing it left

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Speaker 2: That's one of the interesting things to me when I

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Speaker 2: when I look at the division right now, it's the

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Speaker 2: only division in football where all four teams are above

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Speaker 2: five at five hundred are better. But all the teams

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Speaker 3: They all have issues, Like I don't think Bengals oh

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Speaker 2: Nobody's gonna run away with this division.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so they're going to fall off.

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Speaker 2: Nobody's getting twelve or thirteen wins. I don't believe like

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Speaker 2: the winner of the AFC North wins ten or eleven games.

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Speaker 3: So like, obviously, catastrophic things could happen injury wise to

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Speaker 3: any team, but just focusing on the division, the Browns

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Speaker 3: have played quite a few snaps, quite a few quarters,

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Speaker 3: quite a few games without their starting quarterback and maybe

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Speaker 3: the best running back in the league. The Bengals started

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Speaker 3: the season with their most important player as a shall

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Speaker 3: of themself. You know, Baltimore hasn't had the deal with that.

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Speaker 3: But up until about the Steeler game, they were about

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Speaker 3: the most injured team in the league and frankly not

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Speaker 3: to be rough on Kenny Pickett. But if they were

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Speaker 3: to lose Picket, the season wouldn't be over for the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: I mean they still play the different the same script.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they lost two very important pieces.

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Speaker 3: But they've had their share too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I mean, namely, if you were picking

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Speaker 2: two of the top five most valuable Steelers.

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Speaker 3: I think Wats one and then Cam might be two.

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Speaker 2: Cam might be two, and Johnson's in the top five

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Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously pick it's important because the position he plays too,

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Speaker 3: and you know, but yeah, they're definitely two the top five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you survived that nobody in the division is

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Speaker 2: running away with anything. You've got two division wins over

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Speaker 2: those two teams, two of those teams, Like, this is

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Speaker 2: not a bad I don't understand the angst that Steeler

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Speaker 2: fans are having right now. I look this up today.

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Speaker 2: The top scoring team in the AFC North is the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: They're aviually twenty two points a game. Twenty two points

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Speaker 3: And that's that would win most of your division games

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Speaker 3: or most of your games, considering how what average scores.

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Speaker 2: That's what the AFC like. If you look at all

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Speaker 2: the scores from the AFC North games last weekend, yeah,

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Speaker 2: they were all played in that range range because these

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Speaker 2: teams know how to force opponents to play their style football.

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Speaker 3: I also think myself us might have sold the Ravens

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Speaker 3: defense short. I think there's four pre darn goods defenses

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Speaker 3: in the in the Division two, you know. I mean

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Speaker 3: they're doing it a lot with scheme, but their defense

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Speaker 3: I think that's part of it too.

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Speaker 2: I think part of the two is that they slow

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Speaker 2: they force you to play the way they want to play.

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Speaker 3: Well and they are good at that. But they're not

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Speaker 3: finishing teams, which would make me easy. I mean, like

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Speaker 3: if they had their buy right now, that's what they

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Speaker 3: should be self scouting. Is why are we losing in

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Speaker 3: the ninth inning?

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Speaker 2: I mean, as much as they controlled the game against

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Speaker 2: the Titans last.

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Speaker 3: Week, it should have been over at halftime.

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Speaker 2: It should again, you had six red zone trips six yeh.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think we've said this this week. Red

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Speaker 3: zone touchdown percentage is the lowest it's been in the

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl yer this year. I mean, like this is

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Speaker 3: a common problem, but it keeps teams around that shouldn't well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no chbsolutely no business being in that game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the one long run all day.

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Speaker 2: They got a chance to throw into the end zone

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Speaker 2: side kick, and it's like, how does this happen?

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's not gonna Grable's such a great coach or

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean, I'm sure it's something to do

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Speaker 3: with it. The team didn't quit, but you got to

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Speaker 3: score points when you can, and no one in the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's kind of shocking. And I look at

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Speaker 2: It's just but you're playing week after week. It's not

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Speaker 3: I mean.

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Speaker 2: It evens out out, but no one is dealing with

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Speaker 2: an even slate. Yeah, you mentioned the the officiating thing,

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Speaker 2: and I did look that up, and so what should

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Speaker 2: do it every week, and I'm gonna start adding it

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Speaker 2: now to my five for Friday every week. They got

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Speaker 2: Craig Rollstrat's crew this week. Rollstat, I guess is how

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Speaker 2: you explained.

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Speaker 3: I think you said it right there.

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Speaker 2: That is, the their crew calls just nine point four

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Speaker 2: penalties per game. They are the second least flag happy

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Speaker 2: crew in the league. So I think this game should

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Speaker 2: be okay.

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Speaker 3: So I don't have an opinion on it yet. For

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Speaker 3: how the Steelers are built, does it benefit them to

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Speaker 3: have a flag happy team.

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Speaker 2: I would much rather have a team that a crew

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Speaker 2: out there that's not going to throw a bunch of penalties.

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Speaker 3: I would as a viewer, I would as a fan.

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Speaker 2: Think about the Ravens game. There were only five penalties

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Speaker 2: called the entire game. Yeah, the Steelers come out and

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Speaker 2: they win the game. I just look at that. I mean,

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Speaker 2: to me, you're allowing the teams to settle the game

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Speaker 2: on the field.

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Speaker 3: See, if I'm the best team in the league, the Niners,

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Speaker 3: I went to a few penalties as possible. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean like that evens the playing field.

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Speaker 2: To me, and it certainly didn't Cleveland past week.

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Speaker 3: But I'm thinking the singing from the Steeler perspective, they're

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Speaker 3: very good good in penalty differential.

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Speaker 2: This year they don't get many.

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Speaker 3: They don't get many, you know, and their opponents do.

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Speaker 2: So if it goes against the whole narrative the Mike

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Speaker 2: Tons teams are they are traditionally one of the least

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Speaker 2: penalized teams.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and small things like Pickens drew the most

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Speaker 3: pass interference calls in the league last year. That's a

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Speaker 3: ton of hitting yardage, you know.

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Speaker 2: Funny that you mentioned. So here's the breakdown the penalties

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Speaker 2: called the top three penalties called by this crew, and

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Speaker 2: this is through five five games that they've they've worked.

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Speaker 2: They've called eight faalse starts. Can't help those. They are

479
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Speaker 2: seven holding penalties, six defensive pass interference penalties.

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Speaker 3: Those are the today work six games five Okay, I

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Speaker 3: don't know if they didn't they get that's there. They do.

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Speaker 2: They stagger that there's a bye week for the officials,

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Speaker 2: so little overhould a game, Yeah, a little, which is

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Speaker 2: under the number. The number going into the Steelers bye

485
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Speaker 2: week was about two points, about two and a quarter

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Speaker 2: holding penalties per game on average, and the defensive pass

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Speaker 2: interference penalties. That's basically one and a half per game.

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Speaker 3: Okay, interesting because again, how the Steeler team is currently constructed.

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Speaker 3: Teams throw deep against the Steelers, you know, more so

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Speaker 3: than most defenses. So if there's a lot of pis,

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Speaker 3: that might not benefit the Steelers defensive backs because that's

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Speaker 3: big yardage downfield. Holds to me, though, I think are

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Speaker 3: really important for the Steelers because they have t. J. Watt,

494
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Speaker 3: you know, like he's gonna get held more than Joe

495
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Speaker 3: average left defensive end, you know, and if they're not

496
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Speaker 3: calling it, it can neutralize one of your strengths.

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Speaker 2: And enough this offensive line, the Steelers offensive line has

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Speaker 2: only been called for one holding penalty this year.

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Speaker 3: Really, Okay, so.

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Speaker 2: They've they've done a pretty good job. They've They've had

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Speaker 2: three holding penalties altogether. Two of them have come on

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Speaker 2: special teams. Oh okay, those don't count against the about right. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so it's a different type of hold too. Yeah. So

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Speaker 2: I don't expect a flag fest this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Good, Okay. I think it's better to view obviously obvious.

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Speaker 2: Yea, yeah, yeah, there's a problem certain crews you don't

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Speaker 2: want to rolling in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think they need a little talking to too.

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Speaker 2: Get some spleening.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's a rough watch.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Anyway, we're gonna get to a break. He is

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the

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Speaker 2: Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with

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Speaker 2: more right after this.

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Speaker 1: When you want Black and Gold football talk, you want SNR.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: and this is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio and Matt.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers making a roster move today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they sure did. Interesting one too.

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Speaker 2: Interesting when I saw a face light up and I

524
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Speaker 2: mentioned that one. Yeah, Darius Rush signed off the practice

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Speaker 2: squad of the Kansas City Chiefs. They released Desmond King

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Speaker 2: and immediately people you know wiwa would they released doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean King. I think they figured out over the first

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Speaker 2: five weeks here that he wasn't going to be in

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Speaker 2: their plans.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you about that side of things

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Speaker 3: because I have some theories. Let me know if I'm right.

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Speaker 3: I think. Here's their thoughts on King aside. First of all,

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Speaker 3: I think they said rush is out there. I like you,

534
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Speaker 3: somebody's got to go, okay, somebody.

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Speaker 2: I love this kid in the draft. I mean he's big,

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Speaker 2: he's fast. Yeah, four three six in the forty had

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Speaker 2: a thirty five inch vertical Like, I think.

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Speaker 3: That's part of it. He see's a lot different than King.

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Speaker 2: He's six to one hundred and ninety eight pounds. Who

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Speaker 2: else does he look like on this rush?

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Speaker 3: Right? Long, arms, fluid, much more athletic. So I think

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Speaker 3: one of the biggest problems with our secondary is team speed. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, and King is not a burner. He was

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Speaker 3: not a burner, could have combined right. He was a good, solid,

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Speaker 3: you know, tough football player that played outside a lot

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Speaker 3: last year, but really as a slot And I think

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Speaker 3: and I agree, And that's what again, is my theory

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Speaker 3: that an edge corner is more important to them now

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Speaker 3: than guy because if I get edge corners, maybe Pat

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Speaker 3: Peet goes to this lot. You know. Yeah, you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like there's a trickle down here. Yes,

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Speaker 3: if I can solve the edge situation, then my other

553
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Speaker 3: guy doesn't have to do what I'm asking him to do.

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Speaker 3: That he isn't is equipped to do anymore, you know,

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Speaker 3: And I'm not saying Rush is going to come in

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Speaker 3: and be mel Blunt, but he's different than can't he

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Speaker 3: gets to replace.

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Speaker 2: So they sign King after your release because Corey Trice

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Speaker 2: got hurt. Yeah, so essentially what you're doing here now

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Speaker 2: is replacing Corey Trice with Darius Rush this year. Right now,

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Speaker 2: you get to put Rush on scholarship here. Maybe he

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Speaker 2: helps you at some point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and say maybe he doesn't even see the field.

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Speaker 2: But you got him on the roster. Now. They didn't

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Speaker 2: sign him to their practice squad. They signed them to

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Speaker 2: their active roster.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Like, so we have a lot of longtime listeners.

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Speaker 3: They don't have to be that long. Remember our draft coverage,

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Speaker 3: you know, we did a lot of corner stuff. There's

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Speaker 3: a really good corner draft. We talked about Rush a lot,

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Speaker 3: and I'm certainly up for talking about him more. But

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Speaker 3: when they made the signing, I'm like, well, I got

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Speaker 3: to go check the beasts, see what Dane had to say.

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Speaker 3: What do I what isn't fresh on my mind about it?

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Speaker 3: And it was funny. I didn't even look where he

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Speaker 3: had pored or ranked, but he was probably fourth or

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Speaker 3: fifth or something like that was quarter ranked. Rush was eighth,

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Speaker 3: and Trice was twelfth, you know, and that's what they

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Speaker 3: put on tape, right, he had a second or third

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Speaker 3: round grade on Rush. What I don't understand though, And

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Speaker 3: maybe there's more to the story, because hey, I don't

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Speaker 3: want to get too excited because now this is his

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Speaker 3: third team in six months or whatever. Maybe there's something

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Speaker 3: I'm missing here. And he went a little later in

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Speaker 3: the draft than all of us expected. I mean, he

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Speaker 3: had not going on Day two. Why wouldn't the Colts

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Speaker 3: keep him? That's what I don't get.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand, and I'm just I.

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Speaker 3: Just don't know what.

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Speaker 2: I think it may have.

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Speaker 3: Been that because he is a long press corner and

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Speaker 3: one of the knocks on him, and this is true

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Speaker 3: with his South Carolina tape. He's not a great tackler,

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Speaker 3: you know. You know on the Beast, it'll tell you

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Speaker 3: all his high school information. He played a lot of sports.

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Speaker 3: He was a wide receiver turned corner. He's not a

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Speaker 3: corner glass eater by nature, you know. So maybe as

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Speaker 3: much zone as they play, they want tackler.

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Speaker 2: So Chris Ballard was asked about you know why they

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Speaker 2: cut him because he was a fifth round pick. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: a fifth round pick isn't guaranteed to make a roster,

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Speaker 2: but they do more often, they do more often than not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then the Chiefs immediately scooped him up. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: he said.

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Speaker 2: Chris Ballard was asked why they released Darius Rush, and

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Speaker 2: he said, that's a good question. That was hard. He said,

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Speaker 2: Jayalen Jones was the reason.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know enough about him, but fair enough.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's we've all been anyone that's been following

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Speaker 3: us at camp or involved with roster cuts, it often

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Speaker 3: comes down to Vanella.

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Speaker 2: As he says here, he continues on he said, we

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Speaker 2: would have had to have kept seven corners, So it

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Speaker 2: would have been tough. It would have been tough because

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Speaker 2: Kenny Moore, we think of the great camp, Tony Brown,

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Speaker 2: they like they.

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Speaker 3: Did draft Brents in the second round. Definitely was making

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Speaker 3: the team.

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Speaker 2: He was definitely making the team. You have Darryl Baker,

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Speaker 2: we have Dallas Flowers, all those guys, then you have

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Speaker 2: Juju Brents. So it would have been a situation much again,

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Speaker 2: much like Corey Trice this year, if the Steelers, if

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Speaker 2: Corey Trice doesn't get hurt, you.

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Speaker 3: May not make tea.

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Speaker 2: It would have come down to court. It would have

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Speaker 2: come down to Corey Trice or probably you know, one

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Speaker 2: of the other corners that they kept.

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Speaker 3: Did that.

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Speaker 2: You know, do they keep James Pierre in that situation?

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Speaker 3: Maybe Trice has no special teams And that's what you

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Speaker 3: don't know. I'm betting rush as no special team, not going.

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Speaker 2: To help you on teams, and so you know, you're

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Speaker 2: basically giving it a little But I don't think that's

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Speaker 2: you're basically saying, Okay, we have we have these seven cornerbacks,

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Speaker 2: but this one's never gonna be He's not gonna be

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Speaker 2: active for us all year long. We could probably use

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Speaker 2: that spot on somebody else. We'll try to we'll release him,

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Speaker 2: try to get him back on our practice squad. And

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Speaker 2: he said, no, I'm gonna go to Kansas Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I was gonna say, is then you

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Speaker 3: risk It's not like we'll just put him on the

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Speaker 3: practice squad. Yeah, people don't know to free aging for

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Speaker 3: everybody to side in Kansas City's pretty attractive landing spot.

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Speaker 3: Maybe can go with super Bowl there. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: maybe he just chose them over Indy.

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Speaker 2: Then he goes there, their cornerbacks are actually playing pretty well,

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Speaker 2: so there's no opening for him there. And the Steelers

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Speaker 2: come calling and say, hey, we got a spot in

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Speaker 2: our active roster.

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Speaker 3: Well, he doesn't have a choice on that. Yeah, it's

651
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Speaker 3: gets stolen, right, absolutely, So he has to be on

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Speaker 3: the team for three weeks. Three weeks okay, okay.

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Speaker 2: And they're probably going to keep him on the team

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Speaker 2: for the whole time, I would think.

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Speaker 3: I mean, even if he only comes to camp next

656
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 3: year with Porter and Trice, you just need two of

657
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 3: them to hit.

658
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 2: This is This is realistically, and I know he was

659
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: taken in the fifth round. Trice was taken in the

660
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 2: seventh round. It was also really deep corner draft. It

661
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 2: was a hugely deep cornerback class.

662
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:40,479
Speaker 3: Sizeable guy.

663
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Speaker 2: You're getting basically another bite at the apple off of

664
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Speaker 2: this corner, this great cornerback class.

665
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Speaker 3: I mean, frankly, with our draft coverage leading up to

666
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Speaker 3: the draft, if I told you they're gonna end up

667
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 3: with Porter and Trice, it'd been like, wow, they must

668
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 3: be short everywhere else. That was a Day one and

669
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Speaker 3: two pick. You know, if I told you and Rush,

670
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 3: you'd been like, did they draft nothing out? You know

671
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 3: what I mean? You take Porter at seventeen is after

672
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 3: the original spot was yeah, and then two second day corners,

673
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 3: And I understand there's red flags and medicals and characters

674
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 3: that can drop people, and maybe that's part of it.

675
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 3: But I'll take those three talents in the camp next year,

676
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 3: if not sooner.

677
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 2: You get a chance to get him in your system.

678
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 2: You get a chance to work with them.

679
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 3: And there's similarities between the three.

680
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 2: And they're all long, tall, you know, rangy cornerbacks.

681
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: That can run and it really helps your speed. I

682
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 3: mean that's been a big problem with Peterson and Wallace

683
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 3: to me is Wallace is a former walk on. It

684
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 3: doesn't run a four to three. And Peterson's thirty two

685
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 3: years older.

686
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 2: Order And people may say, well, why would you cut

687
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 2: Desmond King? Well, Desmond King had played one defensive snap

688
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: for you. Desmond King had basically been your back up

689
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: return guy and that was that was his job thus far.

690
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 2: If you have to look at it this way, if

691
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: I'm not going to if this guy's not going to play,

692
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: I'd rather have the young guy who can develop as

693
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: opposed to the thirty he got thirty year old guy

694
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 2: who I know what he is at this point, and

695
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 2: he's probably declining.

696
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 3: And my hunches, they weren't comfortable with him being an

697
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 3: outside corner, yeah, you know, or I think he would

698
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 3: have played at least been experimented with there. And I

699
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 3: can understand that he is kind of a boxy build

700
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 3: four six forty guy. Yeah, he maybe he is a

701
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 3: power slot, you know what I mean. Yeah, And you'd

702
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 3: rather Peterson do that, You'd rather Sullivan do that? Yeah,

703
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 3: I think the Peterson thing is interesting. I know all

704
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 3: the people out there.

705
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 2: You know, when Tara Austin said last week, well, Joey

706
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 2: Porter is not going to start, he's not ready to

707
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 2: start yet. That doesn't mean he's not going to play. Like.

708
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 2: He's playing a lot of nickel and dime right now.

709
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: Almost he's playing all nickel and dime right now. Yeah,

710
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: he's going to be on the field when they're in

711
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 2: their nickel in their dime, and they're going to be

712
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 2: in a nickel and dime this week. They're going to

713
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 2: be in a nickel and dime.

714
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Speaker 3: Every instantly, every snap, every snap except for goal one. Yeah,

715
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 3: I mean that's what the Rams do. I mean, they

716
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 3: do not put second second tight end on the field.

717
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 3: They did not play with a second running back. I

718
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 3: mean it is always eleven more than any team in

719
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 3: the league, any personnel grouping, this is number one highest percentage.

720
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Speaker 2: He's probably gonna play a lot next week against Jacksonville.

721
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 3: Probably they're similar. I mean they have a fullback and

722
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 3: then he's extra tight ends. But yeah, I mean they

723
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 3: still have three good receivers.

724
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're gonna play with them a lot on

725
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 2: the field. Now against Tennessee, maybe not so much, probably not,

726
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 2: But so so, I think you're picking your spots with

727
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: Joey Porter Junior, and you're not saying, Okay, Joey, we

728
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: want you to learn. You know, you got to be

729
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 2: out there. We want you tackling Derrick Henry consistently. No.

730
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Speaker 3: So I don't want to talk out of both sides

731
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 3: of my mouth. Because when the Baltimore game ended and

732
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 3: we did a drive by week, I said Jones and

733
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 3: Porter would be starters for me. They'd be every ting

734
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Speaker 3: to me.

735
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 2: The nickel corner is a starter in this. When they

736
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 2: announced when they announced the defense before games at heinz

737
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 2: er at Akrocher Stadium, when they announced the defensive starters.

738
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: They always announced who the nickel corner.

739
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 3: Is because that's what he plays more than a nose tackle,

740
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 3: which plays more than you know any Your nickel corner

741
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 3: is on the field more than than Larry Okunjobi. Yes, absolutely,

742
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 3: I can try to figure it out here because they're

743
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 3: the Steelers have some strong here you go. Only one

744
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 3: defense played a higher percentage with four defensive backs on

745
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 3: the field than the Steelers this year, So they're thirty

746
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 3: first in nickel. They played like the lowest amount of nickel,

747
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 3: but it's still thirty eight percent, and so much of

748
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 3: that is because they played the Ravens the Niners. Houston

749
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 3: had a fullback on the field a ton. That's not

750
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 3: because they don't like nickel. I mean they would it

751
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 3: would much rather play.

752
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 2: I think if they had their their druthers, their nickel

753
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 2: would be their base defense.

754
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 3: And they play a ton of dime. I mean some

755
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 3: teams just prefer six verse five defensive backs. That doesn't

756
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 3: mean they're running out there with only two corners. They

757
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 3: do four. So they are very high in base this year,

758
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 3: low in nickel, but they're almost equal still that.

759
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 2: Will that week go out By the end of the season,

760
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: they'll be right right around where they typically are. Yeah,

761
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 2: because it's opponent based. Yeah, I looked this up over it.

762
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 3: I bet they play a lot of dime this week.

763
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 2: How many fullbacks are actually in the league right now?

764
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 3: I bet twelve?

765
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: It's thirteen, Okay, good guess by I knew I figured

766
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 2: to be under fifty percent. There's some others that are

767
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 2: on practice squads and things of that nature. But yeah,

768
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 2: that's it.

769
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 3: That's it. So and you've seen a couple of them already. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

770
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 3: and that's it. That's one of the beauties.

771
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: I've seen more than a couple. Actually, you've seen San.

772
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 3: Francisco, Houston, San fran Baltimore, Cleveland have one. Uh definitely

773
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 3: the Raiders. Yeah, the Raiders or that's a New England thing.

774
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 3: All for four of the.

775
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 2: Five teams that you've seen thus far play with the fullback.

776
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 3: Interesting. Yeah, I don't think the Browns do.

777
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: I don't think they do either.

778
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 3: They play a lot of extra tight end now, yeah,

779
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 3: they play, Yeah.

780
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: I mean, so he asked. There's some of those times

781
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 2: Cam Hayward or Connor Hayward is counted as a not

782
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 2: as a fullback, but as a tight end. Because he

783
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 2: has a teen next to he does some fullback type stuff. Yeah,

784
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: but he's not a traditional fullback.

785
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 3: No, no, I mean he doesn't.

786
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: You're not going to use him as a lead blocker

787
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 2: twenty five times less this. Yeah, this isn't Dan Krider

788
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 2: leading Jerome Bettis through the whole.

789
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 3: No, no, that would not be his bag. I mean

790
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 3: really even what wasn't that way? Yeah, he was a

791
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 3: little a little more more so than Kyward.

792
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 2: That's just not today's game.

793
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 3: There are very few of those.

794
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 2: You know, the Steelers have gotten through to the two

795
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 2: teams that you do do that are the forty nine

796
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 2: Ers in the Ravens. Yeah, and you've got you only

797
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 2: play the Ravens one more time.

798
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. In terms of just snap percentage, I'm sure. Definitely

799
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 3: over the last couple of years. I can't you know,

800
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 3: the monk in offense, I can't speak to exactly, but

801
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 3: certainly over the last three years, the fullbacks that have

802
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 3: seen the most action are use check in recard. Yeah,

803
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 3: by far.

804
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: And it's no coincidence. Hus Chick used to be in

805
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: bald used in Baltimore.

806
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 3: They weren't going to pay him and san fran Maham

807
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 3: the highest paceed full back hour.

808
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: Instead, they're paying Recard what they could have been paying.

809
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 3: He doesn't fit the new system as much, but he's

810
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 3: really good at what they did what he does.

811
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: So it's just interesting. I mean, again, this five games,

812
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: I can't believe.

813
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 3: The Porter will be a starter.

814
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 2: He's a starter. Yeah, he's a starter going forward? How

815
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 2: that will They may not call him a starter. They

816
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 2: may not. If you look at their their three four

817
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 2: depth chart, he might not be listed among the starters there.

818
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 2: But he's a starter.

819
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 3: So what's interesting to me then is if he is

820
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 3: on the field as expected ninety plus percentage of the snaps,

821
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 3: will they all be at left corner? I think that's

822
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 3: where he's been trained the most. That's probably where he was.

823
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 3: But then my next question is then what's Peterson doing.

824
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 3: That's what's fun to me. Yeah, you know, okay, so

825
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 3: now is he going to be more effective, you know,

826
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 3: for a whole game not being the left corner? Yeah?

827
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 3: I think that's intriguing.

828
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 2: I think you save some of that too, You spring

829
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 2: it on some certain teams when you say, okay, we're

830
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 2: ready to take that next step. But he needed Porter

831
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 2: to be ready.

832
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 3: To fill that in it's easy to make draft day

833
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 3: plans and then implementing them by week one doesn't always happen. Yeah,

834
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 3: you know, the trust factor of it all. Maybe Peterson's

835
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 3: always on cup side of the ball.

836
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's all kinds.

837
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 3: I means manning them up and alone. But maybe he's

838
00:35:58,680 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 3: always on cup side.

839
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: And watch the quarterback. Keep the eyes on the quarter

840
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 2: That's when when they draft, when they brought him in.

841
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 3: You know.

842
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 2: That was the one thing I talked to him about it,

843
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 2: you know, and I talked to Brian McFadden about it

844
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: as his cousin, Like, he could be really effective if

845
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 2: you just let him put his eyes on the quarterback,

846
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 2: be smart and experience and read the quarterback.

847
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, sitting him on an island outside the numbers time

848
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 3: and time again is bound for failure. Yeah, and they

849
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 3: can tell you that if you're sitting there.

850
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: Oh he has said that.

851
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, some a mini camp.

852
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,440
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Speaker 2: he normally does on the other side of that game.

873
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a short trip to New Orleans and

874
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 3: you know, tested out beforehand. But I bet I bet

875
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 3: he goes.

876
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 2: The Saints have ruled out starting offensive tackles Ryan Ramsack,

877
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,439
Speaker 2: James Hurst and the bat tap backup Land and Young.

878
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 3: I don't know much about Land and Young, but I

879
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 3: think Ramchek is a stallwart. You know, if it wasn't

880
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 3: for Lane Johnson, he might be like the best right

881
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 3: tackle of this showow they both might be out this week. Yeah.

882
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 3: Hurst has been a really solid swing tackle that ends

883
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 3: up playing a lot. And but I want to go

884
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 3: with this is Steeler fans might remember Trevor Penning, you know,

885
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 3: the first round pick that went right around their neighborhood,

886
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 3: linked to the Steelers a lot mocked to them. Blah

887
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 3: blah blah. He's been horrible. I mean I thought this

888
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 3: would watch him after the Senior Bowl, like, I wonder

889
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 3: might his career path be like the Undertaker or Haul

890
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 3: Cogan because all he wants to do is like fight.

891
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 3: He doesn't have any technique at all. But they got

892
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 3: problems and car does not like pressure at all. Get

893
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 3: it out quick. Jacksonville front's been playing well too.

894
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll be interesting for that one. We had a

895
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 2: trade today. The Jets have traded me Cole Hartman to

896
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 2: Kansas City, back to Kansas back to KC.

897
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 3: Interesting. I don't have a list off the top of

898
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 3: my head, but a lot of guys that got signed

899
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 3: this year, could get traded even after getting like DeAndre Hopkins,

900
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 3: you know, like they're a rumor to be on the block.

901
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 3: I mean, they know who he is. He's fast, he's undersized,

902
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 3: he never really lived up to Oh he's gonna be

903
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 3: the next Tyreek. Of course he wasn't or close to it.

904
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 3: But they are at least addressing a problem area on

905
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 3: their team.

906
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 2: They need more speed on that.

907
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, they need somebody they can rely on.

908
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 2: Uh Kareem Hunt and Greg Newsom not practicing on Wednesday.

909
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 3: From Brown, Newsom's a bigger deal. Newsom absolutely, Yeah. I

910
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 3: don't know who their backup running backs are in Cleveland,

911
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 3: but Newsom's a good player.

912
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 2: How about this? The Patriots have twenty players list is limited,

913
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: are not practicing on Wednesday? How did they have a practice?

914
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 3: Yeah? Who who suits up? I mean, I guess you

915
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 3: use your practice squad for that stuff.

916
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 2: But that's not even enough.

917
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 3: You start basically, wow, that could be a belloti. It's

918
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 3: all your guys who play, so I'm sure they're guys

919
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 3: are yeah.

920
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 2: Not practicing. We're Trent Brown starter, Hunter, Henry Starter, Jonathan Jones,

921
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 2: starter offensive lineman, Riley Reef.

922
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 3: I think he's starting.

923
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 2: He started, Yeah, Linebacker Joshua.

924
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 3: He's been rumored to be on the trade block too.

925
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 2: And defensive lineman Ke White.

926
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 3: He's actually been a good player. Yeah, speaking of draft coverage,

927
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 3: he was good. He's been good for them.

928
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 2: Limited were David Andrews, Christian Barmore, starter, Cody Davis defensive

929
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 2: back end wide receiver, to Mario Douglas, safety, Kyle Duggar, starter,

930
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 2: defensive lineman Trey Flowers plays a lot. Defensive lineman Devon

931
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 2: Gotcha plays a lot. Defensive back Jack Jones starter, offensive

932
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 2: lineman Michael On when you.

933
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 3: Can, big time starter, I never always adore his name.

934
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: Defensive back to Bil Peppers starter, wide receiver Juju Smith

935
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: Schuster starter. Smith Schuster is listed with concussions, not one,

936
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 2: not singular.

937
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 3: Time.

938
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 2: He just got off of one, came back and had

939
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 2: another one. That's always bad. Oh, no, that's always bad.

940
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 3: I feel bad for him. I mean, he's a fun

941
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 3: I mean I don't think he's a very particularly good player,

942
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 3: but I don't want the poor guy to be concussed.

943
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 2: Double lee running back from Rondre Stevens and guard Cole

944
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 2: Strange and qurnerback Sean Wade.

945
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 3: Wow. I mean, I'm sure most of those dudes will play,

946
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 3: but you didn't get a whole lot of dote on

947
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: Thursday or Wednesday, whatever day you want.

948
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 2: To talk about upsetting your practice schedule.

949
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh though, I mean, this isn't this is the

950
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 3: install day. Yeah, I say, this isn't. The Patriots from

951
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 3: eight years ago to that veterans everywhere and like I'm againness,

952
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 3: they'll be fine.

953
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 2: They almost had to have a walk through today, I

954
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 2: would think. I mean, you can't practice with all those

955
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 2: guys out.

956
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 3: You may not even go to the field. You just

957
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 3: stay in the stay in the meeting rooms at somethoint.

958
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 2: I've never seen a list that big.

959
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 3: That's insane For a Wednesday, half your roster was limited

960
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 3: or worse.

961
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, half of your active Yeah, you can use the

962
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 2: practice squad, guys, that's half of your.

963
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 3: But how do you run a plant roster? I mean,

964
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 3: the practice squad is great for being the dummies that

965
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 3: are put being the other team the practice squad, but

966
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 3: how do you run your offense? And I don't I

967
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 3: don't even think any offensive linemen were on that list.

968
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 3: It was like all of.

969
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 2: Them, all of them, right right, all your defensive backs.

970
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 3: All your dbs and yeah, I mean by certainly you're starting,

971
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 3: oh line, I think four of them were on that list.

972
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 3: It's not so when who's strange.

973
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: That reminds me of like Belichick used to game the system.

974
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 2: He got fined at one point before not hangnail and yeah,

975
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 2: they're not putting guys on the injury report. So he said, okay,

976
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 2: So he then started putting everybody on the injury report

977
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 2: if they had anything.

978
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:25,439
Speaker 3: Then he got in trouble.

979
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 2: Then he got in trouble for doing that because he's

980
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 2: being a smart ass.

981
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 3: Right right right. I don't think this is that. It's

982
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 3: just not that this is we're the worst team in

983
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 3: the league and we need everyone to practice if possibly can,

984
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 3: then they're not.

985
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 2: They played the Raiders. The Raiders are not like they

986
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 2: play something good this week too. They played the Bill Bills.

987
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 3: I knew was a division.

988
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 2: Like if you're looking for Survivor poll pic this, yeah,

989
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 2: take the Bills.

990
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 3: I looked at the lines for the first time. It's

991
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 3: only like a seven or eight and a half.

992
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 2: It was probably before this news came out.

993
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 3: It should be like fifteen.

994
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 2: That's insane.

995
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 3: They're really bad.

996
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 2: Ah, you want to rethink that power ranking stuff. I

997
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 2: mean they're bottom three, right, Wow, they are? They already were.

998
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: I thought that they were the worst team in the league.

999
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 2: I think they. I think they are.

1000
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 3: Chicago with Badgeants. I mean, like how currently constructed Carolina

1001
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 3: is horrible.

1002
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 2: The Giants might be Carolina would beat them.

1003
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 3: Then I think Caroline would beat them. I'd say the

1004
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 3: same thing. I think the Giants are better than them.

1005
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 3: How do they block extra lawrence or you know? I mean,

1006
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 3: Giants le have a couple things that you had on right.

1007
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 2: I mean, most of those guys would probably end up

1008
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 2: coming back to play this week, but they today, Yeah,

1009
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: they're they're playing at a severe disadvantage. Yeah, I mean

1010
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 2: they're banged up. That's a crazy injury report though. Wow,

1011
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 2: I've never seen one like that, No, never seen one.

1012
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 2: What's the Steelers one look like today? They haven't officially

1013
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 2: released it yet.

1014
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 3: Because I know, like Deonta doesn't have to be mentioned,

1015
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 3: McFarland doesn't have to be mentioned. That's the thing you

1016
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 3: remember there maybe the second hour to be out.

1017
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: They probably don't panic if Deontay Johnson and Anthony McFarland

1018
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 2: by Friday aren't activated, there's no reason to. That's typically

1019
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 2: something that Mike Tomlin would do. Like as soon as

1020
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 2: they get on the plane to go to to Los

1021
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 2: Angeles Saturday, you'll get so that's at nine am, So

1022
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 2: expect that news. If it's going they're leaving at nine

1023
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 2: am yafter a West coast trip. That would be when

1024
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,919
Speaker 2: I expect to hear that sometime around nine ninety Friday.

1025
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, you're not concerned about any of them, all right.

1026
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 2: No, not particularly. Some of the moves that they've made

1027
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 2: kind of tell you they're not concerned about Like you

1028
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 2: don't release Desmond King if you because he's your backup

1029
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 2: kick returner, if you don't think McFarlane might be coming better,

1030
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: I think, But yeah, it's a good point, things of

1031
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: that nature. Like, yeah, it kind of tells me.

1032
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 3: I mean, my inclination is Cam's the only one that

1033
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 3: really the of the roster roster that is unavailable, and he's.

1034
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 2: Looking good good. I've seen him around the facility a lot. Yeah,

1035
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 2: he's moving around. Well, it's just a matter of getting

1036
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: that medical Okay, you want make sure it's completely healed

1037
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 2: up because you don't want this then to him to

1038
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 2: come back early and tear something completely because I think

1039
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: they feel like they're a pretty good spot.

1040
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean hypothetical, you get this win. He comes

1041
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 3: back for Jacksonville at home, you might be sitting in

1042
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 3: a nice shot, nice spot, you.

1043
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: Know, could be could find yourself in a good spot. Anyway,

1044
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 2: we're gonna get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson.

1045
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here

1046
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio. We just went through some injury

1047
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: report stuff here. We'll take a look at the entire

1048
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 2: league here and who's in who's out with Yeah, without

1049
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 2: a doubt, But we'll do that when we come back

1050
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 2: with the Fantasy football focus right after this.

1051
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,000
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1052
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,760
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