1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: This is the Buck Sexton Show, where the mission or 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:08,120 Speaker 1: mission is to decode what really matters with actionable intelligence. 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Make no mistake, American, You're a great American. Again the 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show begins. Remember now, welcome to the Buck 5 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. My name is Rahem Kasam, filling in for Buck. 6 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: This Thursday, the twenty seventh of December two thousand and eighteen. 7 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,959 Speaker 1: The phone lines are opened here in the Freedom Hut. 8 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: The phone number is one eight four four nine hundred Buck. 9 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: That's one eight four four nine hundred two eight two five. 10 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: We've got a great show for you this evening, and 11 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: I want you to be a part of it. Whatever 12 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: you have to say, whether it's about the government continuing 13 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: it's partial shutdown, who's at fault, whether you're from the left, 14 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: the right, the middle, the moon, I want to hear 15 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: from you, guys and gals today. We've got a lot 16 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: of subjects to cover over the course of the next 17 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: couple of hours, so stick with us. But I wanted 18 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: to start with this. Over the last day or so, 19 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: just when you thought the fake news media could not 20 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: get any worse, we find ourselves subjected to another dog 21 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: and pony show from CNN and NBC News this Christmas week. 22 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: I want to quote the Washington Post, of all places 23 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: for you right now. The Post published an article today 24 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: by their media critic Eric Wemple, saying there were merely 25 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: seven hours and forty seven minutes left of Christmas Day 26 00:01:53,120 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: when NBC News published this story the headline Trump becomes 27 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: first president since two thousand and two not to visit 28 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: troops at Christmas time. But even the Washington Post not 29 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: exactly noted for its Trump friendliness, even they are calling 30 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: out NBC for not just publishing demonstrably fake news, but 31 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: also for sticking to their story. They are standing by 32 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: that story as if the President of the United States 33 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: hadn't left the White House at all this week. Well 34 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: we know he did, of course, not just because of 35 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 1: the address in Iraq itself nor the stopover in Germany, 36 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: but also because Air Force one, operating under a covert 37 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: call sign was actually physically spotted in the air above 38 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: Sheffield in the United Kingdom by some amateur plane enthusiasts. Yes, 39 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: obviously the President did visit Iraq, unless there's some major 40 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: conspiracy whereby he really did all of that from the 41 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: basement of the White House. Maybe MSNBC. Maybe NBC will 42 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: be telling us that the shadows and the videos don't 43 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: line up quite right, or the flag was waving incorrectly. 44 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: Maybe they're Iraq visit truthers, Iraq landing conspiracy theorists. Maybe 45 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: Lee Harvey Oswald acting in concert with President Trump shot 46 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: John F. Kennedy. Maybe what we do know, however, is 47 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 1: NBC hasn't apologized nor really retracted its grotesque fake news story. 48 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: Oh they put a little disclaimer on it, something something 49 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: surprise visit not our fault, don't shoot the messenger. But 50 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: the damage, the intentional damage, I'll remind you, was already done. 51 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: The damage was supposed to be incurred by President Trump 52 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: and his administration, as so many news stories a fashion 53 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: to do nowadays. Instead it backfired, leaving yet another mess 54 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: for the media, and specifically for NBC. You see, trust 55 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: in the media has been declining for some time now. 56 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: Gallop the polling organization, found that between two thousand and 57 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: three and two thousand and sixteen, the percentage of Americans 58 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: who said they have a great deal or fair amount 59 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: of trust in the media fell from fifty four to 60 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: thirty two percent. Sixty nine percent of adults in the 61 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: current survey say their trust in the news media has 62 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: decreased in the past decade. Just four percent say their 63 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: trust is increased, and this week's incident muddies those already 64 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: murky waters further. While few were to know that Fir 65 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: Force one would take off in the dead of night 66 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: from Joint Base, andrews ms I keep saying, NBC appeared 67 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: so eager to criticize this president, getting one more dig 68 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: in at him over the Christmas period, that they couldn't 69 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: even wait until Christmas was well and truly over to 70 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: take their shot. Well, they missed again. Even the Washington 71 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: Post concurs. At the end of the analysis piece on 72 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: the subject today, author and media critic Eric Wemple concludes, 73 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: quote correct the piece, NBC News or prepared to stand 74 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: legitimately accused of propagating fake news. And NBC weren't the 75 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: only ones this week to humiliate themselves over the president's 76 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: Iran visit. I want you to listen to the following 77 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: CNN commentators. I'm sorry I'm subjecting you to this. The 78 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: infamous Jim Acosta included their reactions and talking points over 79 00:05:55,360 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: the visit to US soldiers. Is really quite something to behold. 80 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: Let's play that clip. Is that unusual to see the 81 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: president doing that on base? Does this run the risk 82 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: of the president, you know, facing some accusations that he's 83 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: turning some of this into a campaign stop? What are you? Well? 84 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: You know, this is very interesting. The pool reporters traveling 85 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: said that the troops brought the hats with them, including 86 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: one hat that said Trump twenty twenty. We will have 87 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,559 Speaker 1: to see if that actually proves to be the case. 88 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: The question is if they brought them or if the 89 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: president brought them? What commander allowed that to really happen? 90 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: Because this is very much against military policy and regulation. 91 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: Troops are not supposed to be involved in political activities. 92 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: The US military is not a political force. And there's 93 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: no question the saying Trump twenty twenty and make America 94 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: great again, those are political slogans of a Trump campaign. 95 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: They are not governmental sayings to put to say the 96 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: least right and John, I mean, what would the concern 97 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: be if something like that is going on? Do you 98 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: think or is this just you know, a soldiers there 99 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: he's got a hat in his locker and he runs 100 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: over and says, hey, when am I gonna have another 101 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: chance for the president to sign one of these things. Yeah. Look, 102 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: I mean it kind of blurs the line because the 103 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: Trump is his slogan and where's that, where's that? You know, 104 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: where's that line? But Barb's right, it is in fact 105 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: a campaign slogan, that is a campaign item and is 106 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: completely inappropriate for the troops to do. Supposed to do it, 107 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: not supposed to do this, and I'm sure that their 108 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: boss is seeing that. They're They're not going to be 109 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: happy about it. But look, the president has to take 110 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: some ownership of this too. Every time he's around military audiences, 111 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: he tends to politicize it and he brings in complaints 112 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: and grievances from outside the realm of military policy. This 113 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: was wrong for him to do it as well. I'm 114 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: going to be really interested to see Jim when we 115 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: get video of his comments to the troops, his actual 116 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: speech at Aliside, and I hope that he didn't politicize 117 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: that those sets of remarks, But we'll have to wait 118 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: and see. We're gonna have to wait and see which 119 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: command or allowed that to happen. The military is not 120 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: a political fools. It was inappropriate. The bosses won't be 121 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: happy Trump has to take ownership over it. Listen to 122 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: the stretch in their voices much better if you can 123 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: go and watch that online. They are at such great pains. 124 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: They know they're going to ridiculous lengths to implicate this 125 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: president in something, anything, even something is innocuous. Assigning baseball caps, Well, 126 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: let the impeachment proceedings begin. Surely this is the gravest 127 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: deception ever foist upon the American people. Some soldiers wanted 128 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: their commander in chief's autograph and posed happily with make 129 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: America Great Again caps. The horror of it all. Meanwhile, 130 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: on the southern border, of course, no one really cares 131 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: about the waves of mass illegal immigration coming into the 132 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: United States. Well, unless it's a migrant child that's suffering, 133 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: of course, then they're all down there with their cameras 134 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: and their crews and the crocodile tears. Who've seen it 135 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: in Europe before, of course, during the crisis of twenty fifteen. 136 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: Is it really any wander I ask you, that we 137 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: across the Western world have so little faith in our 138 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: media overlords. Now, can it really be that surprising to 139 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: the one time masters of the universe at this point 140 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: that they have sufficiently abused the trust of the public 141 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: to the extent that many are just switching off completely. I, 142 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: for one, as somebody who regards journalism as a noble 143 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: profession stacked with ignoble operators, have lost all sympathy for 144 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: these people. M MSNBC, sure, NBC, CNN, to quote the 145 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: President of the United States, you are fake news. The 146 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: lines are open here one eight four four nine hundred 147 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: buck one eight four four nine hundred two eight two five. 148 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 1: You're going to go to a quick break now when 149 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 1: we come back, more of your calls, and we've got 150 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: some great guests for you here on the Buck Sexton Show. 151 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Buck Sexton Show. I'm Rahemkasam, filling 152 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: in four Buck Sexton from the Freedom Hut here in Washington, 153 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: d C. The phone lines are open eight four four 154 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: nine hundred buck eight four four nine hundred two eight 155 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: to five. Want to go to the phone lines now, 156 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: let's go to Charlie from Ocean City, Maryland. Charlie you 157 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: with us. Yes, I am saying you made you do. 158 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: Thank you taking my call. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a 159 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: little older citizen and I've been listening to all this 160 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: talk about building the wall, and it's very simple. Back 161 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: in the sixties, I was in the CBS and I 162 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: spent a couple of years in nom We built everything, 163 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: and we have a wall in DC. It's the Vietnam Memorial, 164 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: affectionately called the Wall. Now we can put a wall 165 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: in our border with the Sbees. It's all military. It 166 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: will be covered by military expense. The only problem is 167 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: the cbees cannot build in the United States unless it's 168 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: specified as training exercised. Could it be specified as a 169 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: training exercise? Sure, it could be. You're teaching the Cbees 170 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: how to build a wall. That sounds like a great 171 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: idea to me. What do you think? What do you 172 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: think the calculation is behind not going that route just yet? Well, 173 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: I think I think the President in his staff is 174 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: looking for other means how to fund this because they 175 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: have contractors in mind who developed the prototypes and knowing 176 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: this building President, because he built all his life, he 177 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: can get this wall for much less than what is 178 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: publicly stated. Makes a lot of sense, Charlie, We're gonna 179 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: put that question to our next guest. Thank you so 180 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: much for the call. We have Colonel Rob Manus joining 181 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: us now on the line. A thirty two year combat 182 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: veteran in the Air Force, a B Wing Squadron Commander, 183 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: Colonel Rob Manus, Thanks for joining us, Thanks for him 184 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: appreciate it you having beyond and just correct me if 185 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: I'm wrong. You also have a new show, is that right? 186 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: I do on the Blaze TV, The Rob Manis Show. 187 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: You can find us on Facebook at the Rob Manis 188 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 1: Show or if you just follow me on Twitter at 189 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: Rob Manus. You can pick up the website that's m 190 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: A N E. S. S. Rob. I wanted to ask you. 191 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: I wanted to get Charlie in there first. What do 192 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: you think of that idea? Is that feasible having the 193 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: military build a wall? Oh? Sure, it's feasible. We do 194 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: all kinds of things and call them training exercises in 195 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: order to not just to do them, but to get 196 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: value out of doing that. For instance, doing apply over 197 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: using multi aircraft at a NASCAR raise for a football 198 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 1: game costs a lot of taxpayers dollars, but the air 199 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: crew is getting and the maintenance personnel are getting training 200 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: out of that. So absolutely we could do that. The 201 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: question is do we use cbs, Do we use the 202 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: civil engineers in the Air Force the red horse folks 203 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 1: who are who are deployable, or use them all and 204 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: call it all one big training exercise. But absolutely possible 205 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: and feasible to do that. So in the first part 206 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: of this show, Rob I talked about the visit to 207 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: Iraq and the media's heads blowing up. Of course, NBC 208 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: accused the President of not having gone at all. They 209 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: now Iraq visit. Truth is. Then you also had CNN 210 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: talking about this, this massive, massive scandal that is surely 211 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: going to bring the government down, of President Trump signing 212 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: a baseball cap. I mean, as as somebody who has 213 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: spent the dominant part of their adult life in the military, 214 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: how does it make you feel to hear the military 215 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,719 Speaker 1: being politicized by the media in that sense? And is 216 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: there really any any smoking gun when it comes to 217 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: the president signing a baseball cap? I mean, this was ludicrous, 218 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: isn't it. I mean two days worth of commentary about it. Oh. 219 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: Absolutely not the set. But my buddy US Army retired 220 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: Colonel Kurt Slichter and I are both being trolled by 221 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: by CNN's paid hack on this issue, retired General Mark Hurdling, 222 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: and he's been going back and forth with us pretty 223 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: much since last night about this and and tries to 224 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: say that it's a political, partisan, political activity and because 225 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: they were in uniform, it's illegally. I mean, he's sent 226 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: me copies of the regulation. I've had to cut pieces 227 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: out and show it to him. You know, a first 228 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: surprise that he's doing this, other than I know he's 229 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: a political hack for CNN and he's made by CNN 230 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: and that's what c any wants to do. But the 231 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: not funny part of it is they're attacking the troops 232 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: that are in combat on the ground in Iraq for 233 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: asking the President United States to autograph some items. You know, 234 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: he happens to have the baga hat. None of that 235 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: is partisan, uh, And they have to be a uniform 236 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: because they're in a combat zone and he's the commander 237 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: in chief and if they want him to sign something, 238 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: that's fine. Look, Barack Obama and Vice President Biden both 239 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: visited my last base that I commanded, the base on 240 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: in Out in New Mexico. That and we had we 241 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: had the troops and civilians, their government, savinians, people from 242 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: the base meet the airplane because they want they want 243 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: to meet the president and vice president of the United States. 244 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: They're not partisan people. Uh, And they'd hand them all 245 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: kinds of things to get signed, and I really didn't 246 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: pay any attention to what they were handing him to 247 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: get signed because I didn't care. I'm not going to 248 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: attack the troops and deplete their morale by making it 249 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: a political issue when it's not. It's it's a commander 250 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: in chief visiting your base. Well that was even Barack 251 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: Obama on the way to an off based political event, 252 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: you know. So it's just crazy. But CNN is telling 253 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: us these guys. CNN is telling us that the command 254 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: is going to be very upset and the bosses are 255 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: not going to be happy, and there's going to be 256 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: hell to pay for this. The reality is nobody's going 257 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: to care, right, nobody cares outside of that CNN studio, 258 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: No nobody cares. And they're actually lying. And General Hurtling 259 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: is of using the facts from the ethics regulation that 260 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: he himself sent me the link to this morning, and 261 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: I had to cut out the part that talks about 262 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: they're prohibited from partisan political activities and engaging in that 263 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: and attending political events as a spectator if they're a 264 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: uniform when they're not a uniform. They can do whatever 265 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: they want, but that's not what the case is here. 266 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: As the cases of Commandergy visiting combat forces, they happen 267 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,959 Speaker 1: to have some items that they wanted him to get signed, 268 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: and that's fine, and none of it was partisan. Those 269 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: items aren't even partisan. There's nothing about political parties even 270 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 1: on those items that they got signed by the guy. 271 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: I think it's ridiculous. And they owe an apology to 272 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: the American forces in Iraq. You know, it really does 273 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: make me sad to see things like that happening because 274 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: we've seen that sort of attack on national morale is 275 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 1: what it really is. It's not just even about the 276 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: troops morale. So the troops morale reflects national morale as well, 277 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: and they both play an integral part together. It's it's 278 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 1: it's it's a lattice. They overlap and to attack national 279 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: morale at Christmas no less, when the President is, as 280 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: you say, in a combat zone visiting the troops, which 281 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: is what they were complaining that he hadn't done. He 282 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: was kicking their boxes and and and this is what happens, 283 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 1: Colonel rob manis we've got to leave it there because 284 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: we're up against the hard break. But I thank you 285 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: so much for joining us here on the Buck Sexton Show. 286 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: You can catch Rob's work at rob Man s M 287 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: A n e SS dot com. Stay on the lines. 288 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: We'll be right back for more callers after this break. 289 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: Welcome back. This is the Buck Sexton Show. Raheem Kasam 290 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: filling in for Buck today live from the Freedom Hut. 291 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: I have invaded the Freedom Hunt here in Washington, d C. 292 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: The phone lines are open eight four four nine hundred 293 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: Buck eight four four nine hundred two eight two five. 294 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: You know, I used to host a show over on 295 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: another another network, and the callers were the most important 296 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: part of the show for me. I really, I really 297 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: don't care what I have to say so much, which 298 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: is strange for somebody hosting a radio show. I am 299 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: really much more interested in what you guys have to say. 300 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: But if you are interested in the long term or 301 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: the medium term, if you choose to unfollow me in 302 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: what I have to say, you can find me on 303 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: all the social media's as well. M Twitter at Raheem Kassam. 304 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: It's rah e M k A S S A M. 305 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: Same on Facebook and Instagram and all all of those 306 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: YouTube you name it. I'm on there quite a lot, 307 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: probably a little too much. I want to go back 308 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: to the calls now. Nine one. Larry is in Ohio. 309 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: Mister Larry, are you there? Yes, Regime Hope pronounced your 310 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: name right, yeah, absolutely, go right ahead, Larry, are you there? Yeah? 311 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: Can you hear us? We can hear you. Just fine, 312 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: go right ahead with your point, okay, h They've been 313 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: talking about this war issue as a star in the 314 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: government shutdown. I ever read a idea, Let's have the 315 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: Ambassador of the United Seats meet with the ambassador of 316 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: Mexico and propose to them a radical idea of having 317 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: Mexico vote their people vote on joining the United States. 318 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: As an inn action to New Mexico. We'll take that 319 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: twenty five billion for the wall and improve their infrastructure 320 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: and ours and send enough FBI, CIA of whatever, do 321 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: away with the cartel, and raise their standard of living 322 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: much higher than it is now. Well, I did not 323 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: expect that a democratic annexation of Mexico as a means 324 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: by which to stop mass, mass illegal immigration. But don't 325 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: you think if you were to do that, I mean, 326 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: you'd if they were to actually go ahead and do 327 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 1: something like that, you'd be creating millions of more American citizens. 328 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: You don't think they just flood into the rest of 329 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: the US while their infrastructure is being improved. I mean, 330 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: I know we're talking theoretically here. Forard continues building cars 331 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: in Mexico and large companies in the United States continue 332 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: doing business in Mexico, they will be paid the same 333 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: as American workers. I think, I think, I think you'd 334 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 1: have to have a referendum within the United States as well. 335 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: On that. I'm not sure that there'd be a great 336 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: a great taste for for for Mexico joining the US, Larry, 337 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: but I appreciate the radical thinking. Larry from Ohio. There 338 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: phone lines are open, ladies and gentlemen. Eight four four 339 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 1: nine hundred buck eight four four nine hundred two eight 340 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: two five. We have We have Dana from Lake City 341 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: in Florida. Dana, good afternoon, good evening. Hey, how are you? 342 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: Thank you for Dickie marcall, Hey my pleasure, go right ahead. Yeah, 343 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: I'm My concern is with the president, and you know, 344 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: we have heard about fake news for a while. Well, 345 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: we were all just duped in the idea that he said, 346 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: you know, oh, I'm not going to go tomorrow, Lago, 347 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to stay in the White House where the 348 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 1: government shuts down. He even tweeted for me. And realistically, 349 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: this trip to Iraq had been planned for six weeks 350 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: in advance, and I feel like we were just duped. 351 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: We were supposed to feel sorry for his actions when 352 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: all the time there's a whole another scenario going on 353 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. You know, well, do you think that 354 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: was do you think that was him fooling or part 355 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 1: of security protocol to make sure that you know the 356 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: trip wasn't leaked. The White House, for better or worse, 357 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: is a leaky place. That was his safeguard against the 358 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: trip leaking out. Now, that would be one way to 359 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 1: look at it. I suppose you don't like it. You 360 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: don't sound like you enjoyed that. But did you feel 361 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: empathy or sympathy for him when you read that? Poor me, 362 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: I'm in the White House will alone this Christmas? Is 363 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 1: that why you feel a bit dupe? Now? No, to 364 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: be honest with you, No, I didn't feel any sympathy. 365 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: I don't feel any sympathy for him at all. Frankly, 366 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: I would prefer a president with much more dignity and class. 367 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 1: But that's what we have, and that's what we're dealing with. 368 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: That's an interesting point. Now you can probably tell that 369 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: I am a big fan of this president, and I 370 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: regard myself as as quite a dignified person. I'm sure 371 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people out there who are 372 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: also dignified in regard themselves as such, but that do 373 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 1: like this president. Do you can you not see their 374 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: their point, The sort of Andrew Jackson esque brusqueness of 375 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: this president may be the only way they feel that 376 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: they can get anything done. Um, it would be nice 377 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: if that were a fact. But you know, in the 378 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: case of Andrew Jackson, he had a history of working 379 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: towards certain goals. Donald Trump's goals have been to take 380 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: advantage of real estate options, and realistically, there's in a 381 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: bank in this country that will loan him a dollar. 382 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: So that's why he's been learning, learning towards the Russians 383 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: in order, you know, increase his bank stake. Well, I don't, 384 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think that. I don't think there's 385 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: not a bank in this country that would lend him 386 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: a dollar. But I appreciate the fact that when you 387 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: when you have been in real estate for a long time, 388 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: and some projects succeed in some projects fail. Sure it 389 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: makes you a riskier investment, But you don't believe that 390 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: he has any tangible policy goals. I mean, there's been 391 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: sweeping change to the federal courts system under under him 392 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: so far? How been policies that have been enacted? Are 393 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: those accidents? Well? No, The only thing that truthfully he's 394 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: done since being voted in the Reblican party reboving your party, 395 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: has taken the lead and move things forward. He is 396 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: just a figurehead, if you will, at lowheart in my 397 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: opinion and realistically, he has done nothing but create controversy. 398 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: The Republicans are the ones running the show now, Dana, 399 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: can I ask if and you don't have to answer this, 400 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: but can I ask do you typically vote Republican or Democrats? 401 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: So are you? Are? You? Go ahead? Well, anyway, let 402 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: me finish one second. One. The only he's really done 403 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: is remove everything that Obama had initially put in. And 404 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: everyone thinks, so we're saving money because we've taken away regulations. Well, 405 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: you know we'll pay with dirty water and dirty other 406 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: things as the environment shows us in time. But you 407 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: know that's just my opinion. I was concerned realistically with 408 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: the fact that we were reduced, and he's sitting there saying, oh, 409 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: poor me, I'm not taking my vacation, and then we 410 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: get to see that realistically he's off, Oh, we were 411 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: on a plane with all the shades down and it 412 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: was dark, and that was well. Dana, thank you very 413 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: much for your input and your call this evening here 414 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: on the Buck Sexton Show. I'm very sorry that Dana 415 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: felt duped. I wonder how you guys feel about that. 416 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: I certainly took that tweet with a sort of tongue 417 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: in cheek, you know, poor me in brackets. The President 418 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: tweeted a couple of days ago about being being in 419 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: the White House during the government shut down, and he 420 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: said it was the only one in there. Obviously he 421 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: wasn't the only one in the entire White House complex 422 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: over Christmas. So I think that was a little bit playful. 423 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: I'm not sure we should feel duped by it, but 424 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: I appreciate the tone and the ability to have that discussion, 425 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: and Dana was very polite but also forthright, and I 426 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: think those are the sorts of discussions we need to 427 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: be able to have and to laugh at each other's 428 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: jokes and not resort to screaming and tearing our hair 429 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: out all the time. Eight l four nine hundred buck 430 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: is the number if you want to be part of 431 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 1: that conversation. I also wanted to make mention very briefly 432 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: of this, because I lauded the Washington Posts media correspondent 433 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: in the opening part of this show, Eric Wemple, who 434 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: had a bit of a go at NBC for what 435 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 1: he called and what I called, there are opportunistic fake 436 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 1: news attempt to portray Trump is not caring about the 437 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: troops this Christmas this morning. So so let me retract 438 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 1: some of that praise for the Washington Post, because this 439 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,959 Speaker 1: morning they published a story and I'm recalling this off 440 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: the top of my head, so it's not going to 441 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 1: be verbat him. The headline they published a story that 442 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: said something like Trump without evidence, suggests that the furloughed 443 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: workers in Washington, DC are Democrats. Now, there's plenty of 444 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: evidence to suggest that the majority of those federal workers 445 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: are Democrats. There was a study done after the twenty 446 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: sixteen at general presidential election here by The Hill newspaper, 447 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: an actual good journalist called Jonathan Swan, who's now over 448 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: at Axios. He wrote an article entitled government workers shun Trump, 449 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: give big money to Clinton, and they reported at the 450 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: time that of the roughly two million dollars that federal 451 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: workers from fourteen agencies spent on presidential politics by the 452 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: end of September, around one point nine million, or ninety 453 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 1: five percent, went to the Democratic nominees campaign. That was 454 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: the Hill dot COM's analysis. And you go through the 455 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: list of these of these donations by agency, agriculture, my 456 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: eyes are kind of failing me. Here it's a small chart. 457 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: I'm looking at Agriculture ninety nine point four percent went 458 00:28:54,640 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: to Clinton, Commerce ninety nine point two percent, Defense eighty four, 459 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: Education ninety nine point seven percent, and it goes on 460 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: and on and on. So I don't think it's fair 461 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: for the Washington Post to say Trump without evidence m 462 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: complains or suggests that these furloughed workers are Democrats. That 463 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: there is manifest evidence that that is the case, that 464 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: is in print in writing, And I noted that later 465 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: on in the day, actually after I had tweeted this 466 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: Hill analysis from twenty sixteen. Later on in the day, 467 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: the Washington Post mentioned that at the bottom of the article, 468 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: in a second article that they ran on the story. 469 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: So I wonder, I wonder if there were some sort 470 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: of mere coppers going on at the Washington Post for 471 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: attacking the president in the morning, for that suggestion, just 472 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: saying that's that's all. Hey, let's sir, let's take a 473 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: quick break now, because when we come back, we're going 474 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: to have another good buddy of mine. He's he's called 475 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: Gil barn Dollar. He's at the Center for the National Interest, 476 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: which is I think the first foreign policy think tank 477 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: that President Trump when he was candidate Trump gave a 478 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: foreign policy speech too. And we want to get into 479 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: the Syria discussion because I've heard so much alarmism on 480 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: Syria in the last couple of days. And for those 481 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: of you that don't know me, I have a history 482 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: in foreign policy. I have. I have spent time at 483 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: foreign policy think tanks, the Henry Jackson Society, which was 484 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: a neo conservative think tank for my sins a good old, 485 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: good old decade ago. Now we'll talk to we'll talk 486 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: to Gil in a moment about that. So quick break now, 487 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: don't go anywhere. Welcome back to the Buck Sexton's show. 488 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: Raheim Casam here in the Freedom Hunt in Washington, DC. 489 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: Want to get straight to our next Gil Bond Dollar 490 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: is the director of Middle East Studies at the Center 491 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: for the National Interest. Gil, thank you for joining us 492 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: here this evening. Hey, Ray, how are you very well? 493 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: We don't have much time because I ran late in 494 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: that segment, so I want in the last segment. So 495 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: I just want to throw it straight over to you 496 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: and get all your thoughts, if possible, over the next 497 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: five minutes or so on the withdrawal in Syria over 498 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: to you. Gil. Sure, well, on balance, I think it's 499 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: I think it's a good thing. Um. You know, there's 500 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: been predictable hysteria across across pretty much the media, regardless 501 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: of partisan affiliation, from you know, the theoretically leading foreign 502 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: policy lights in both parties, the think tank world, the rest, 503 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: the kind of foreign policy establishment almost you know, in 504 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: this day and age, it's kind of bizarre unanimity that 505 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: you very very rarely see in Washington these days on 506 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: the supposed folly of the Syria pullout. So we can, 507 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,040 Speaker 1: you know, we can talk to you like about the 508 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: specifics and how the decision was arrived at all. That 509 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: I think that's largely speculative. Um, You know, you can 510 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: go on some reporting and speculative about that, but in 511 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: terms of the merits of pulling out of a you know, 512 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: essentially a punitive expedition, I hope um in Syria that 513 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: had had mostly run its course, and I never mind 514 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: the illegality and a constitutionality of that war. Uh, I mean, 515 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: I'm in favor of the substance of what we're doing. Well, 516 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: So let me ask you then about the the the 517 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: the alarmism behind a lot of the critique of this 518 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: that if we have no twenty two hundred American troops 519 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: in Syria, that Iran will take over the entire region, 520 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: Turkey will establish a new caliphate, Russia will become the 521 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: world's greatest superpower ever. I mean, these are the things 522 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: we're being I mean, obviously embellishing, but these are the 523 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: things we're sort of being led down the path to believe. 524 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: What say you to those criticisms, Yeah, of course, I 525 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: mean that that's stuff absurd and as you said, you 526 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: can't really you can't have all those things to want. Um. 527 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: If I had to pick a favorite, there was a 528 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: I think it was Dana Milbank. There was a piece 529 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: in the Post that that this proved that Russia had won, 530 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: had won World War Three. I think with the phrasing 531 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: which is which probably takes the cake for the most 532 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: absurd and hysterical reaction. UM. But no, you know, Syria 533 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: would never accord national security indust the United States. We 534 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: dealt just fine with Richard Alissadon with his father when 535 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: they were both in power. Now supposedly it's it's unconscionable 536 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: that he's going to remain in power, and it has 537 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: effectively won that civil war with some mopping up to do. UM. 538 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: You know, the fact that they're that there are a 539 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: few thousand nicest holdouts scattered throughout both Iraq and Syria 540 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: is something we supposedly can't can't survive. UM. I don't 541 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: think anyone can incredibly claim that's an existential threat to 542 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: the United States or even at this stage even a 543 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: serious threat to the Iraqi or Syrian regimes. UM. But 544 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: you know, we can talk to us, piece, we can 545 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: talk to other powers in the region. But but um, 546 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: Iran is not is not a serious threat the United States. 547 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: It's it's a somewhat serious threat to Israel. But the 548 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: Israelis can take care of themselves just fine, I don't 549 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: think we need to worry too much on that score. Um, 550 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: the Turks, I'm sure we'll bite off some chunks of 551 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: of northern Syries where it looks like will probably happen. Um. 552 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 1: And and uh, the Russians have have renewed m renewed interests, 553 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: and renewed weight in the region. But that's that's developed 554 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: over through a few things, not least of which is 555 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: their successful and pretty limited military intervention in Syria. Gil, 556 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: I've got about thirty seconds here. Um, do we owe 557 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: the Kurds anything? Because that's what we keep hearing at 558 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: the moment. Well, the Kurds aren't dunning. I mean I've 559 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: I've written this and so fuenty of other people. The 560 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: Kurds have been Uh, you know, we've we've given them 561 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: some support and they've they've taken it and they've run 562 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: with it, and and they protect their own interests. But 563 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: do you hear that line a lot? And I will 564 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: tell you that the um that's here, that's that's the music. Gil, 565 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,399 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to leave it there, But I thank 566 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: you for joining us here on the buck Sex and Show. 567 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 1: That's gilbarn Dollar. Check his work over at the Center 568 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: for the National Interest. This is the Buck Sexton Show. 569 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: Raheem Kassam will be right back after this break. Welcome 570 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 1: back to the Buck Sexton Show. My name is Rahem Kassam, 571 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,919 Speaker 1: filling in for Buck today live from the Freedom Hunt 572 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: here in an increasingly cold Washington, DC. So much so 573 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: than I recently ordered thermals. I've never owned thermals before, 574 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: and I'm quite excited about them coming. So there you go. 575 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 1: There's something about me that you don't know and probably 576 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: didn't care to know. The phone lines here are open. 577 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: We do appreciate all your calls. I'm going to try 578 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: and get to as many callers as possible this evening 579 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: because that is my favorite part of the show. The 580 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 1: number is eight four four nine hundred two eight two five. 581 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: That's eight four four nine hundred Buck. But first, I 582 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: wanted to bring you an interesting story that I don't 583 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: think got enough pick up. A good friend of mine 584 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: broke this story about a week ago. It's about the 585 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: Nation of Islam. Alana Goodman from the Well newly from 586 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 1: the Washington Examiner, formerly of the Daily Mail and prior 587 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: to that the Washington Free Beacon, but now at the 588 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: Washington examiner joins us on the line. Now, Alana, thanks 589 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,399 Speaker 1: for thanks for joining us this evening, Thanks for having 590 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: mean are here. I know, I know you've got drinks 591 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 1: to get back to, Alana, so I won't I won't 592 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: keep you that long. But I just thought this, Uh 593 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 1: you do if you've always got Alana as the girl 594 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: who no matter where you see her, she's always got 595 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: a martini with three olives in her hand. I mean 596 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 1: she could be she could be at the Metro waiting 597 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: for the train and she'll have a martini glass in 598 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 1: her hand. Isn't that right? Is that an accurate depiction? Now? 599 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, Alana. You broke a 600 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: really important story last week about the Nation of Islam, 601 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: and I wanted to make sure everybody knew about this. 602 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:57,280 Speaker 1: The headline nation of Islam receiving federal cash to teach prisoners. 603 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: Talk us through this a little bit. Yeah, Nation of 604 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,399 Speaker 1: Islam has received about three hundred and sixty thousand dollars 605 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: from the US government. This is through the Bureau of 606 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 1: Prisons UM to teach their philosophy to prison inmates. And uh, 607 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: you know this has been going on to two thousand 608 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 1: and eight. And you know, as your listeners calledbly know, 609 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: the Nation of Islam run by Lewis Skerricon, who has 610 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 1: referred to Jews's termites recently. UM is a you know, 611 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: it's a it's a fundamentally anti white, anti Semitic organization. 612 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: And uh, you know this group is getting funding not 613 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: just for you know, different program programming that they do, 614 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,720 Speaker 1: but actually you'll like to teach people in federal prisons 615 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,879 Speaker 1: about their philosophy. Yeah, this is an organization that has 616 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: has called white people blue eyed devils and suggested that 617 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 1: Jews are the synagogue of Satan. Um. How did the 618 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 1: how did the Bureau of Prisons explain handing them three 619 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:03,839 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty five thousand dollars in contracts? Well, they 620 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: actually haven't really explained it yet. I reached up them 621 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: for comments for the story and gave them, you know, 622 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: several days to get back to us, and in the 623 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 1: end they just sent me pretty much the code UM, 624 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: the US code that says that they're able to pay 625 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 1: contractors UM. And that was it. So we really haven't 626 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,919 Speaker 1: heard much from them. They said that they don't keep 627 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: their contracts for longer than six years and because the 628 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 1: original contract in this case, UM was more than six 629 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: years ago. They're not able to provide any more information about, 630 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: for example, like what the Nation of Islam was teaching seasonmates, 631 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 1: what materials were being used up, you know, what, what reading, 632 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 1: what books, anything like that. And look, this is an 633 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: organization that a lot of their literatures latently anti semitic. Um. 634 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 1: You know, one of one of their most popular books 635 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,720 Speaker 1: is called The Secret History between Blacks and Jews, which 636 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: clintons that you know, Jews were orchestrated the trans Atlantic 637 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: slave trade. So this is uh, you know, it's very 638 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 1: concerning from about what they were teaching, well deeply, and 639 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: you'd think more so because of the recent controversy surrounding 640 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 1: the Women's March and Linda Sarsare and the relationships that 641 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 1: many of those people have had with Louis Farrakhan and 642 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 1: the Nation of Islam. I mean, for the U, I mean, 643 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: let's let's be clear about this. This isn't US government money. 644 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 1: This is taxpayer money. This is ordinary people's cash going 645 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: to an organization like this. I'm I'm I'm I suppose 646 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 1: I was going to say I'm shocked, but really, I 647 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: suppose we shouldn't be that shocked by it, But is 648 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 1: there is there any Look, I would also add, I 649 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: mean beyond just the taxpayer money issue, which obviously you 650 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,839 Speaker 1: know is very concerning on a public level. UM Congressman 651 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 1: Peter King from New York, who I spoke to about this, 652 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: the the point of UM radicalization in prison. I mean, 653 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: radicalization has been a big issue. Uh. There was a 654 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: center report who it was in two thousand and ten 655 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: that found that dozens of UM, dozens of inmates who 656 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: had been converted to Islam in prison and been radicalized 657 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 1: had gone to Yemen and we're believed to be trained 658 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 1: in al Qaeda CAM. So this is a big issue. 659 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: And UM, you know, he he thought that that was 660 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: something that we needed to look into more because um, 661 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: you know, as as he told me, look like when 662 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: he believes there should be vetting for people who are UM, 663 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,399 Speaker 1: you know, religious leaders in prisons, and as he said, 664 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: like the vetting should stop when you learn that it's 665 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 1: the aser coons group, Like that should be the end 666 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: of the vetting. That's just the luck. We're not we're 667 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 1: not we're not paying you to come in and we're 668 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: not giving you money to teach these prisoners. Well, I 669 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,959 Speaker 1: think it's increasingly it's increasingly disgraceful that the US Bureau 670 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 1: of Prisons don't want to or say they can't disclose 671 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: more to do with the original contract there. I think 672 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,799 Speaker 1: that's that's bs for start um. And then and then 673 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,760 Speaker 1: you wonder what other sorts of groups have been getting 674 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: this cash over over the last decade or so. I 675 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 1: mean this started winning to two thousand and eight. Yeah, yeah, 676 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: and that was something you know, you mentioned me, which 677 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 1: I think is great, a great idea to look into 678 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 1: who else is getting funding. Um. The issue is that 679 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: this stuff is not posted. I mean it is, it 680 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 1: is posted publicly, um, but it's difficult to find out 681 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: like who all of the contractors who want specific agency 682 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 1: as KUM. And I want to mention also that the 683 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: Bureau of Prison is under the Department of Justice, so 684 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 1: these were, at the end of the day, Department of 685 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 1: Justice contracts. It's extraordinary stuff. Alana. Just tell the audience 686 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,839 Speaker 1: where they can follow more of your work and your 687 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,359 Speaker 1: tweets and so on and so forth. Well, you can 688 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 1: read me at the Washington Examiner and I'm on Twitter 689 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 1: at Alanta. Good men there, it is all right, Alana, 690 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 1: back to your martini, have one for me, since I'll 691 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: be stuck in this studio for another two hours at least. 692 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 1: But I am just I am literally just down the 693 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 1: road from our favorite watering hole, so I may stop 694 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,400 Speaker 1: in later for a for a post show celebration. Alana 695 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: Goodman there, thank you once again for joining us here 696 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: on the Buck Sexton Show. Thanks for that phone number 697 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 1: here is eight four four nine hundred Buck eight four 698 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 1: four nine hundred two eight two five. If you're wondering 699 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 1: why Buck has an English accent today, that's because I'm 700 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 1: not Buck. My name's Rheim Kassam. I feel in occasionally 701 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: four Buck. You might have heard me on here before 702 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,320 Speaker 1: you can. You can find me on the social media 703 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: and all that as well. I believe you have another 704 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,880 Speaker 1: guest host tomorrow, if I'm not incorrect, in the form 705 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 1: of my good buddy Harland Hill, unless unless something is 706 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 1: drastically changed, mister producer, is that correct? I'm saying the 707 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 1: right thing, Okay, good I like saying the right thing. Yeah, 708 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 1: Harland Hill is a is a fantastic chap as well, 709 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: so make sure you check out the show tomorrow. Well, 710 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 1: obviously it's not going to be as good as this Swan. 711 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 1: You know, Harland doesn't have the accent, but but he'll 712 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 1: you're a good hands with Holland I want to I 713 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 1: want to see if we have any other callers on 714 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: the line. Let's go to uh let's go to Kenny 715 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: in Boston. Kenny on line two. Are you there right? 716 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 1: How are you doing? I just wanted to call to 717 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,919 Speaker 1: disagree with that previous caller who spoke about being deceived 718 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 1: by Trump with the whole Iraq visit. It was a 719 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: bit it was a bit hyperbolic, don't you think absolutely well. 720 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,720 Speaker 1: Of course he also dodged the question when you asked 721 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: does he usually vote Democrat publicans? So I suspected as much. However, 722 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 1: um no, I think it was just a coincidence or 723 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: a matter of convenience because of the secrecy that was 724 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 1: required for a trip like that as as usual, and 725 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,759 Speaker 1: then he just used it at that same time to 726 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 1: play them, and he game them, but it does expose 727 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 1: them in their fake news endeavors. So I did like 728 00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,799 Speaker 1: that a lot. And in fact, he did a double 729 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,839 Speaker 1: because when it came out that they were trying to say, well, 730 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: we shamed him into doing a visit. Well, no, the 731 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,800 Speaker 1: visit was planned, right right, I mean, this is incredible, 732 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 1: isn't it. You had this I can't remember the woman's 733 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 1: name now, Solid Solid Dad O'Brien or someone like that 734 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 1: who was on Twitter crowing about, oh, we shamed President 735 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 1: Trump into going to visit the troops, like Trump wasn't 736 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:30,359 Speaker 1: reading your Twitter, and then decided about ten minutes later, 737 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 1: let's get to Joint Base Andrews and take Air Force 738 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 1: one over to Iran. These things take between six and 739 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 1: twelve weeks planning, especially for something in a combat zone, 740 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 1: so very sensitive. And yeah, they've made themselves out to 741 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,280 Speaker 1: be quite foolish over this Christmas period, haven't they. Kenny, 742 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 1: absolutely well, And I just want I just wanted to 743 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: add one other thing. When there's a term that they use, 744 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 1: what aboutism, Remember that's what about is or what about 745 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,719 Speaker 1: a right? Well, well, what aboutism is not even a word. 746 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,760 Speaker 1: What they're talking about in what about ithism, they're referring 747 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,799 Speaker 1: to history, recent history. So what they're saying, ignore what aboudhism. 748 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 1: They're saying, ignore recent history. So that's really what they're 749 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you know, that's a really 750 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 1: good point. It's a very good point when they say, 751 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 1: don't compare these two incidents. It's them trying, it's them 752 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 1: running interference. You're absolutely right, Kenny, Thank you so much 753 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 1: for that call. We are going to go to a 754 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 1: break now because when we come back, I do want 755 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,840 Speaker 1: to get to more callers. But we also have a 756 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 1: couple more guests in this hour that I wanted to 757 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,719 Speaker 1: bring to you, including my good buddy from American Majority 758 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 1: Ned Ryan. He'll be joining us to talk about the extended, 759 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 1: partial maybe kind of furlough shutdown thing that's going on 760 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 1: here in Washington, d C. All I can say is Washington, 761 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 1: d C. Has been a very very pleasant place this 762 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,360 Speaker 1: last week, and it's because a lot of these people 763 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: have left town. And it's because a lot of these 764 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 1: federal workers are not milling about all over the place, 765 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 1: the majority of them being Democrats. I'll have you know, 766 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,879 Speaker 1: thank you very much Washington Post if you didn't hear 767 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,439 Speaker 1: me in the first hour, correcting the Washington Post on 768 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 1: their claim that President Trump said that these majority of 769 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 1: the federal workers Democrats. They are indeed, and we know 770 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,400 Speaker 1: it for a fact. All right, quick break, we'll be 771 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 1: right back here on the Buck Sexton Show. Welcome back, 772 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,759 Speaker 1: to the Buck Sexton show. I'm Raheem Cassam, broadcasting live 773 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 1: from the Freedom Hut here in Washington, DC. I like 774 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,760 Speaker 1: these action packed shows. Lots of halls on the boards. 775 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 1: The phone number here eight four four nine hundred Buck 776 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,839 Speaker 1: eight four four nine hundred two eight two five. If 777 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 1: you are against me, if you are with me against 778 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 1: any of our guests, I want you to call in. 779 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,239 Speaker 1: We can have a grown up discussion. I'm not going 780 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,880 Speaker 1: to scream and shower you unless you really push my buttons. 781 00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 1: But speaking of somebody who might scream and shout at 782 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 1: me if I if I don't let him get back 783 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,839 Speaker 1: to his dinner soon. Ned Ryan, the founder and CEO 784 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 1: of American Majority, joins us on the line. Now, Ned, 785 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,799 Speaker 1: good evening. Good to be with you. Man. Am I 786 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 1: keeping you from dinner? Ned? No, I've already had dinner. Okay, 787 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,880 Speaker 1: keep me from a nice relax and leaving with my 788 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,439 Speaker 1: wife in front of fire. But I'm here. Let's go well, Ned, 789 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,400 Speaker 1: I just want to tell the listeners Ned took me, 790 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,359 Speaker 1: took me shooting in his backyard the other day, and 791 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,799 Speaker 1: I got so much hatred on social media, Ned from 792 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,560 Speaker 1: from my British followers. Yeah, because they are so squeamish 793 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,439 Speaker 1: about guns. Even the conservatives in the UK are so 794 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 1: squeamish about guns, and if you, you know, insert an 795 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 1: animal into that process, well then they just lose their 796 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:46,280 Speaker 1: minds totally. So I had to defend the Second Amendment 797 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 1: all day the day after I saw you, and the 798 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 1: next day on my Instagram feed they were absolutely losing 799 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,279 Speaker 1: their minds. But I wanted to thank you publicly for 800 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,200 Speaker 1: letting me shoot some trees in your backyard. Oh. Absolutely, 801 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,719 Speaker 1: you missed on some more fun today. I sided in 802 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 1: my red dot on the AAR and got the SKS 803 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 1: ready to go hunting on Saturday, which, hopefully, on the 804 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 1: other end of it will be a nice big buck 805 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 1: that I will enjoy eating. So not not buck Sexton. 806 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 1: That's that's, of course, no sect. He wouldn't be nearly 807 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 1: as good. He'd probably stringy. He God knows, there's a 808 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 1: lot of meat on that guy. You've seen him recently, Well, 809 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,400 Speaker 1: that's true. I mean, you just have to do a 810 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 1: slow He's not here to defend himself. I shouldn't I 811 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 1: shouldn't be so mean. The next part of fun, though, 812 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 1: when you come out, is I will take you deer hunting. Uh, 813 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 1: and we'll knock down a deer and we'll have some nice, 814 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,799 Speaker 1: delicious backstrap. Fine by me. In the meantime, I think 815 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,880 Speaker 1: we have politics to discuss. Um we've We've only got 816 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 1: about five minutes in this segment, so I didn't I mean, 817 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,320 Speaker 1: we don't need to spend too much time on this anyway, 818 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 1: but it's it's but it's worth noting, and it's worth 819 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,280 Speaker 1: sort of assessing where where this might go. I'm talking 820 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 1: about the partial government shutdown that now looks like it's 821 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 1: going to extend in into January, with the House lifting 822 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 1: today and not coming back until was it January two? 823 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 1: I think they get sworn in January three. But you know, 824 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 1: I'm of the opinion rehem. I have not been shy 825 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,400 Speaker 1: at all whether or not EDS on TV shut it 826 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 1: all down, shut the government down. I've encouraged President Trump 827 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 1: to shut the southern border down. I mean, these are 828 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 1: this is a serious issue that we have to deal 829 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,360 Speaker 1: with in this country. To say that we have an 830 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,880 Speaker 1: immigration system, it is a joke. It's still broken. I 831 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't call it an immigration system. And at some point 832 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 1: someone has to stand up and say we have to 833 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 1: actually start questioning what we're doing as a country. And 834 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,400 Speaker 1: quite frankly, Rehem, I've been awesome about this too. We 835 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,840 Speaker 1: got to this point because of an unholy alliance between 836 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 1: Democrats and Republicans. Democrats for political power and quite Republicans 837 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 1: because their corporate donor base and they're afraid of endangering 838 00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 1: their reelection campaign funds. And at some point somebody like 839 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 1: a Donald Trump had to say, enough of the stupidity. 840 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 1: We have to say, we've got to fix this. We 841 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:08,360 Speaker 1: have to have In what world, Raheem, does a sovereign 842 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 1: nations say we don't have the right to actually secure 843 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,719 Speaker 1: our borders and actually ask to people coming why are 844 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,120 Speaker 1: you coming, where are you coming from, what is your 845 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 1: intention of coming here? And are you actually going to 846 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,319 Speaker 1: be an addition to this country? Are you in the 847 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,880 Speaker 1: best interests of this country or where your entrants be detrimental? 848 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 1: This is what sovereign nations that are responsible, that that 849 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 1: feel that is a moral obligation to their citizens. These 850 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:33,919 Speaker 1: are the things that they actually do. And I think 851 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,880 Speaker 1: that many in Washington, DC have been deeply immoral in 852 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,560 Speaker 1: dealing with this immigration problem. So what do you think 853 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,920 Speaker 1: is going to happen when they come back. How does 854 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,319 Speaker 1: this get resolved? I mean, the Democrats are offering what 855 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 1: one point six billion the president wants five point seven? 856 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,439 Speaker 1: Will he take three? Will he take three and a half? 857 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 1: Will the Democrats even go that high? Will they not 858 00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:02,719 Speaker 1: want to flex some obstinate Seoul As the new House 859 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,319 Speaker 1: is sworn in, I think that they are determined and 860 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,960 Speaker 1: have dug in on resistance. They do not want to 861 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,000 Speaker 1: give Donald Trump a win. And I know many others 862 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,799 Speaker 1: have said this and pointed out twenty thirteen. You know, 863 00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,799 Speaker 1: almost every Democrat I think maybe every Democrat in the 864 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 1: Senate voted for I think it was forty six billion 865 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,640 Speaker 1: dollars and seven hundred miles offense. They just simply refuse 866 00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 1: to give Donald Trump a win and be This is 867 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 1: where how far the Democratic Party has come in the 868 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,640 Speaker 1: last five years, where it has been almost entirely captured 869 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,560 Speaker 1: by the far radical left that doesn't want immigration reform, 870 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 1: that doesn't want secure borders, they want open borders. And 871 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 1: Democratic leadership actually has to swear fealty to these far 872 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,040 Speaker 1: left grassroots and donors if they actually want to stay 873 00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,480 Speaker 1: in power. So I think what's probably going to happen, Honestly, is. 874 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,400 Speaker 1: I think we might be at an impass, and I 875 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 1: think we're still going to be fighting about this coming 876 00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,640 Speaker 1: into the twenty twenty election. And at that point we're 877 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,959 Speaker 1: gonna have a very clear, definitive difference between Donald Trump 878 00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:00,880 Speaker 1: saying we have to have a order wall, we have 879 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,399 Speaker 1: to have security, and you're gonna have somebody far left 880 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 1: that's going to be the Democratic presidential nominee saying we 881 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 1: want open borders, we want to abolish ice, And at 882 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,000 Speaker 1: that point, the American people have to decide are we 883 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,960 Speaker 1: going to get serious about this issue or not, Because 884 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,520 Speaker 1: at some point there's a train coming down the tracks 885 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,760 Speaker 1: called reality. And when you look at our broken immigration system, 886 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,600 Speaker 1: you look at our broken welfare system, all of these things. 887 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,680 Speaker 1: At some point we keep on thinking it's not going 888 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:27,000 Speaker 1: to hit us. It's going to hit us. And I'm 889 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,319 Speaker 1: not really entirely sure what's going to happen to this 890 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,920 Speaker 1: country unless we make some hard decisions right now. And 891 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,839 Speaker 1: it's not really rocket science Raheem. Secure our borders. We're 892 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 1: not going to allow everybody in, and at the same time, 893 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 1: we're not going to have an open welfare system in 894 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 1: which those that are coming across the borders illegally are 895 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 1: tapping into this because we saw polls just recently in 896 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,919 Speaker 1: which over sixty percent of non citizens, half of which 897 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,319 Speaker 1: came here illegally, are on some form of welfare. This 898 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:56,960 Speaker 1: is unsustainable much longer, it is absolutely well, what a 899 00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,479 Speaker 1: moment to end that sentence. There, You are perfectly on time. 900 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 1: Ned Ryan, the founder and CEO of American Majority. Check 901 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,880 Speaker 1: out his work Google American Majority. That's Ned Ryan. All right, 902 00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,240 Speaker 1: the phone lines are open. We're going to roll through calls, 903 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 1: so be on the triggers. Eight four four nine hundred 904 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,719 Speaker 1: Buck eight four four nine hundred two eight two five 905 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 1: more of your calls after this break. Welcome back to 906 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 1: the Buck Sexton Show. I'm rheamcasam here in the Freedom Hut. 907 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,319 Speaker 1: Coming back to you guys on the phone lines now. 908 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,319 Speaker 1: Eight four four nine hundred buck eight four four nine 909 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,480 Speaker 1: hundred two eight two five. Want to start with Cynthia 910 00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:37,280 Speaker 1: in Florida. Cynthia, are you with us? Hi regime? Hey Cynthia? 911 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,360 Speaker 1: What's on your mind? I just wouldn't say thank you 912 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,200 Speaker 1: so much for you in my call. I listened to 913 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,400 Speaker 1: the show quite often. I'm a big fan of Bucks 914 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,840 Speaker 1: and a big fan of yours and I love listening 915 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 1: to the show. In your guest hosting, you bring a 916 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,399 Speaker 1: really cool perspective on current events. So I just want 917 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,759 Speaker 1: to call in and thank you guys for all y'all 918 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,319 Speaker 1: deeper the movement. Well, I appreciate that very much. Sodi, 919 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,480 Speaker 1: what have you made of the last forty eight hours 920 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:03,240 Speaker 1: in media land that we've been discussing on the show 921 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:08,560 Speaker 1: so far, the media has just been ridiculously fake news, 922 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,400 Speaker 1: worse than they usually are the last forty eight hours 923 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:16,160 Speaker 1: with the whole Trump visiting the troops, it's just ridiculous 924 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,799 Speaker 1: like they they're still keeping it up even though they're 925 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,080 Speaker 1: exposed time and time again. I don't know how they 926 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,040 Speaker 1: think that people are buying this anymore. It doesn't look 927 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,080 Speaker 1: like people are buying it. Cynthia, thank you very much 928 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 1: for the call and for the compliments. I'll pass your 929 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,520 Speaker 1: best along to the great Buck Sexton as well. Let's 930 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,960 Speaker 1: let's keep on rolling with calls. Let's go to Paul 931 00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:42,359 Speaker 1: in Mississippi Online four. Paul, good good evening. Hey, Hi, 932 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 1: I enjoy your program. I enjoyed the Box program and 933 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,879 Speaker 1: wish your merry lady Christmas and a happy New Years. 934 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 1: Absolutely Merry Christmas to you too, Go right ahead, Okay. 935 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,600 Speaker 1: One thing I want to say about him signing that 936 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,960 Speaker 1: kep for the soldiers. He is the commander in chief 937 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,520 Speaker 1: of the military. If he wants to sign a cap, 938 00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,200 Speaker 1: he should there. But he'd be able to without kidding, 939 00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:08,560 Speaker 1: all the meeting and all the Democrats and more, they 940 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,280 Speaker 1: were really desperate, they would They were desperate, Paul, weren't 941 00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,600 Speaker 1: they that he brought those caps and therefore there was 942 00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:20,759 Speaker 1: some kind of political campaign governmental military violation. But it 943 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,400 Speaker 1: turned out, as the pool reporters said, these were caps 944 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,040 Speaker 1: that belonged to the soldiers, So why shouldn't they have 945 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:31,200 Speaker 1: them signed if they want them signed? Sure? You know, 946 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,319 Speaker 1: you know I love our president and if I would 947 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:39,719 Speaker 1: take a bullet, so to him taking a bullet ifnique, Well, Paul, 948 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,879 Speaker 1: so what does this say to you? It's it's Christmas, right, 949 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 1: It's supposed to be the the you know, a season, 950 00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 1: a time where we are jolly but but overtly going 951 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,840 Speaker 1: to great lengths to be nicer to each other and 952 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,800 Speaker 1: politter to each other. And the media hits the president 953 00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,879 Speaker 1: with this over the last forty eight hours. I mean, 954 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 1: I know, Trump derangement syndrome is a real thing. But 955 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 1: I thought at least at Christmas they would take the 956 00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:12,600 Speaker 1: foot off the fake news accelerator. Yeah, that's good. It's 957 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,919 Speaker 1: deeply disappointing. But thank you for your cole Pole in Mississippi. 958 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:21,040 Speaker 1: Let's go to Julie in Tennessee on line to Julie. 959 00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:25,000 Speaker 1: Good evening, Good evening, raheem pleasure to talk to you. Um, 960 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get right into this whole um Muslims of 961 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:35,279 Speaker 1: America issue that you're the nation of Islam. Yeah, yes, 962 00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,960 Speaker 1: well we have. What it is is, here's the Muslims 963 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,960 Speaker 1: of America, which is actually a front group for the 964 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:48,279 Speaker 1: Jamat al Fukra, who is connected to the Saik gilani Ye, 965 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:52,719 Speaker 1: who is connected to the murder of Daniel Pearl. No, 966 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:58,360 Speaker 1: you know your stuff? Huh, you know your stuff? Well, 967 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,800 Speaker 1: they're here near the TVA. They have a camp, the 968 00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,600 Speaker 1: Tennessee Valley Authority Power Camp. You know, do our near 969 00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:11,080 Speaker 1: our power plant and right behind Fort Campbell. What is 970 00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,640 Speaker 1: that one called? Did you? By the way, did you 971 00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:17,800 Speaker 1: ever read my book Julie called No go Zones? No, 972 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,640 Speaker 1: I have not. I've been wanting to so last year 973 00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:24,280 Speaker 1: I wrote that and there's an entire chapter on jamasal 974 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,160 Speaker 1: Fugra and the Muslims for America camps which are in 975 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,000 Speaker 1: the United States. Tell us a little bit more about 976 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,280 Speaker 1: your experience with that. Well, we hunt, which you need 977 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,560 Speaker 1: to go deer hunting with your friends, but we hunt 978 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,400 Speaker 1: up in that area near the Cumberland City and we've 979 00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:43,840 Speaker 1: heard automatic gunfire coming from down in that area where 980 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:47,520 Speaker 1: they have their camp. We also had have crossed paths 981 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:52,320 Speaker 1: with them in the Cumberland City area and they do 982 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,560 Speaker 1: not like they do not like seeing a woman dressed 983 00:57:55,560 --> 00:58:01,320 Speaker 1: to hunt, I can tell you. And the the situation 984 00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,480 Speaker 1: is when nine to eleven happened, they first of all, 985 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:08,040 Speaker 1: they guard their camp with you know what weapons, you 986 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,480 Speaker 1: know that they are. They are very heavily guarded on there. Yep. 987 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:15,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely So we've never driven by there because it's just 988 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:20,000 Speaker 1: probably not prudent. But when we've had to cross paths 989 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:25,840 Speaker 1: with them outside of that area, they just there. We don't, 990 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:30,360 Speaker 1: we don't speak to them. It's very uncomfortable. But because 991 00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:35,200 Speaker 1: they've not done anything illegal per se, nothing can be done. 992 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:40,840 Speaker 1: And um, but the location of this camp being about 993 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:45,840 Speaker 1: seven miles right along the power lines from the TVA 994 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,040 Speaker 1: plant and I used to have I know where the 995 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,760 Speaker 1: camps located, but when you look at the where the 996 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:56,000 Speaker 1: camp is located right behind Fort Campbell as well, it's 997 00:58:56,080 --> 00:59:00,440 Speaker 1: kind of curious. Well listen, I'm in prey with your 998 00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:03,000 Speaker 1: with your working knowledge on the matter, and obviously depressed 999 00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,320 Speaker 1: that you've got one of these camps right near you. 1000 00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,400 Speaker 1: For those of you who are skeptical about what Julia 1001 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,640 Speaker 1: is saying, just just go away and look at it yourselves. 1002 00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:16,000 Speaker 1: Jamatal Fukra f u q r A. And remember that 1003 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,760 Speaker 1: it was only in September of this year that a 1004 00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:22,640 Speaker 1: similar such compound in I think it was in New 1005 00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:27,480 Speaker 1: Mexico was was raided. So so just to a lot 1006 00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,280 Speaker 1: of people out there, I know, Julie, these things can 1007 00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:34,040 Speaker 1: seem outrageous and out there, but the evidence is compiled, 1008 00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,600 Speaker 1: the FBI is is well aware of it, and there 1009 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:40,240 Speaker 1: are plenty of there's plenty of evidence behind behind what 1010 00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:45,200 Speaker 1: this group Jamatal Fukra is otherwise known as Muslims for America. 1011 00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,320 Speaker 1: Um So, Julia, I thank you for that call. It's 1012 00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,440 Speaker 1: it's very actually important to note, because we were talking 1013 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,080 Speaker 1: about the Nation of Islam stuff, that there are actually 1014 00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,800 Speaker 1: more sort of militant groups than the Nation of Islam 1015 00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,320 Speaker 1: out there, and they are out there in the United 1016 00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,240 Speaker 1: States as well. And for those of you that didn't 1017 01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,640 Speaker 1: guess it, I wrote a book about a lot of 1018 01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:07,760 Speaker 1: this last year. It's called No Go Zones, where I 1019 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:11,240 Speaker 1: specifically intended to prove, because I've seen it firsthand in 1020 01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:15,200 Speaker 1: Europe that no go areas are a thing. And I 1021 01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,760 Speaker 1: think I proved it so well that even CNN and 1022 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:22,120 Speaker 1: MSNBC had me on their programs to discuss my findings. 1023 01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:23,960 Speaker 1: So if you are, if you're in the market for 1024 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,760 Speaker 1: some reading material, feel free to pick up No Go Zones. 1025 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:28,640 Speaker 1: We're going to go to a quick break now, but 1026 01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 1: I want us many of you on the lines as possible. 1027 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,200 Speaker 1: I love these calls. Today eight four four nine hundred 1028 01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,600 Speaker 1: Buck eight four four nine hundred two eight to five 1029 01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,560 Speaker 1: quick Break will be joined in a moment by doctor 1030 01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:43,480 Speaker 1: John Eastman from the Claremont Institute. He's gone an interesting 1031 01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,160 Speaker 1: story to tell you, guys, but for now we're going 1032 01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:50,320 Speaker 1: to pay some bills. Welcome back to the Buck Sexton Show. 1033 01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:54,080 Speaker 1: Amraheim Kasan filling in for Buck today. I think this 1034 01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:57,840 Speaker 1: is my third or fourth time doing this something like that. 1035 01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:01,120 Speaker 1: I feel like we're making like I'm making connection with 1036 01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,880 Speaker 1: you guys. Some great calls today. I really appreciate them. 1037 01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:07,360 Speaker 1: Lines are open eight four four nine hundred buc K 1038 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:13,520 Speaker 1: eight four four nine hundred eight to five. I want 1039 01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,880 Speaker 1: to hear from as many of you as possible. How 1040 01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 1: have two hours nearly gone of this show? Already doesn't 1041 01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,840 Speaker 1: feel like it, but those are the best shows, quick 1042 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:28,880 Speaker 1: pace and lots of content. Line three, I think we 1043 01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:33,640 Speaker 1: have Charlie from Boston on the line of something to say, Charlie, 1044 01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:37,200 Speaker 1: you with us. I'm right here, Hey, how are you 1045 01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:40,920 Speaker 1: doing this evening? I'm doing great? Raheem. I've got an 1046 01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:45,240 Speaker 1: idea for President Trump, go ahead, what to do with 1047 01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:51,240 Speaker 1: all these immigrants that the Democrats insist on allowing in illegally. 1048 01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:56,160 Speaker 1: I think President Trump should provide them all free transportation 1049 01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:00,880 Speaker 1: directly to the precincts and counties where are these rich 1050 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:06,000 Speaker 1: Democrats live in their gated communities, and drop them right off. 1051 01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:11,320 Speaker 1: Broward County comes to mind, Palm Beach County, Nassau County 1052 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:17,480 Speaker 1: where Hillary lives. Uh um, you know, San Francisco, Calorama, 1053 01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:21,520 Speaker 1: Ester County in New York, Calorama neighborhood in Washington, DC. 1054 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:27,400 Speaker 1: You know, just you know, it's letting them all come 1055 01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:31,160 Speaker 1: to the to the poor and working class communities and 1056 01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:36,280 Speaker 1: flooding them into those communities. Let these democrats that are 1057 01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:40,440 Speaker 1: so unwilling to secure the border, let them put them up. 1058 01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:44,040 Speaker 1: It's a very um it's a very interesting point about 1059 01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:49,640 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think anybody's under the misconception that 1060 01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:53,000 Speaker 1: you are going to stop every single illegal crossing into 1061 01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:56,120 Speaker 1: the United States, because some are not just over the borders, 1062 01:02:56,200 --> 01:03:01,800 Speaker 1: some are overstayers, some are on ya different methods of transportation. 1063 01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:05,760 Speaker 1: So what do you do when people do either qualify 1064 01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:10,440 Speaker 1: for some level of refugee status or asylum status or 1065 01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,600 Speaker 1: amnesty or whatever it is. At the moment you're saying, 1066 01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:18,720 Speaker 1: Charlie that the how these housing developments or the houses 1067 01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,160 Speaker 1: that they're put in, the places that they're put in, 1068 01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:25,520 Speaker 1: tend to be quite far removed from the political and 1069 01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:29,400 Speaker 1: cultural elite. And there's obviously a major reason for that. 1070 01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,200 Speaker 1: But it's it's interesting because you look at somewhere like London, 1071 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:36,320 Speaker 1: for instance, now, which has experienced a massive amount of 1072 01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,600 Speaker 1: both legal and illegal immigration over the last decade or so, 1073 01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:46,360 Speaker 1: and you've got a situation there now where politicians, leading 1074 01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:50,840 Speaker 1: cabinet members are being attacked on the street. Now it's 1075 01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:55,040 Speaker 1: not always by migrants, some of it is homegrown criminality too, 1076 01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,400 Speaker 1: but there can be no doubting that there is a 1077 01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:01,960 Speaker 1: dovetailing of high levels of immigration to areas and increases 1078 01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:08,640 Speaker 1: in crime, drug crime, violent crime, burglary, carjackings, knife things, 1079 01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,240 Speaker 1: and of course terrorist attacks too. In fact, I was 1080 01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,800 Speaker 1: reading about this just this morning, Charlie. The Germans have 1081 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:19,280 Speaker 1: finally acknowledge something that I was warning for so very 1082 01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,680 Speaker 1: long that along with this massive immigration that came into 1083 01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:26,640 Speaker 1: Europe in twenty fifteen, there has been massive rises in 1084 01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,840 Speaker 1: crime across those neighborhoods. And you're saying, let it go 1085 01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:36,840 Speaker 1: to the Democrat counties. Absolutely well, are we talking about 1086 01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:40,240 Speaker 1: the people that are here illegally? Yeah, nothing to say 1087 01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:45,520 Speaker 1: about and no qualms about legal immigration whatsoever. In a 1088 01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:49,200 Speaker 1: matter of fact, I'm frankly I'm a social liberal. But 1089 01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,400 Speaker 1: the people that are that are coming here illegally that 1090 01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:57,440 Speaker 1: the Democrats insist I'm allowing in just blossom right into 1091 01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:01,640 Speaker 1: Westchester County. It's it's a great idea. I hope President 1092 01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:05,280 Speaker 1: Trump is listening. Charlie from Boston, there with some ideas 1093 01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:07,480 Speaker 1: on what to do with the what to do with 1094 01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,040 Speaker 1: the hordes of illegal immigrants? Did I sorry, did I 1095 01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,480 Speaker 1: just dehumanize them by saying hordes? Is that? Is that 1096 01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:17,680 Speaker 1: not allowed now? And beside too insensitive there? I think 1097 01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:22,040 Speaker 1: it's a I think it's a very good point, Thank you, 1098 01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,400 Speaker 1: mister President. I like that. By the way, mister producer, 1099 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,720 Speaker 1: I encourage that anytime you just want to want to 1100 01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:30,120 Speaker 1: throw something at me, keep me on my toes, happy, 1101 01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:33,919 Speaker 1: happy to have it happen. So we've talked so far 1102 01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:39,640 Speaker 1: today about the fake news, We've talked about the gosh, 1103 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:43,360 Speaker 1: we've talked about the government shut down, so many other things. 1104 01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,840 Speaker 1: I really commend that story to you guys from Alana 1105 01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,040 Speaker 1: Goodman over at the Washington Examiner, by the way, because 1106 01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,479 Speaker 1: I bet you if the Nation of Islam is able 1107 01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:54,840 Speaker 1: to get four hundred thousand, nearly four hundred thousand dollars 1108 01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:59,960 Speaker 1: out of the Bureau for Prisons, than many other unpalaced, 1109 01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:04,200 Speaker 1: shall we say, groups will also be in that list. 1110 01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,760 Speaker 1: And actually we discussed the story last night and I 1111 01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,320 Speaker 1: suggested to her that she might go back and foyer 1112 01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:13,160 Speaker 1: the Prisons Bureau and say, right, I want a full 1113 01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:15,240 Speaker 1: list of everyone that you guys are good money to, 1114 01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:19,520 Speaker 1: but as as you know, they seem to tread the 1115 01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:22,800 Speaker 1: contracts after a certain amount of time, which is utterly 1116 01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:26,400 Speaker 1: bizarre to me. I wanted to bring you as well 1117 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:30,840 Speaker 1: an interview with doctor John Eastman, but we've had a 1118 01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:33,120 Speaker 1: little bit of trouble getting ahold of him. On his end. 1119 01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,840 Speaker 1: He's a he's a professor at the Claremont Institute, and 1120 01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:41,280 Speaker 1: I guess, I guess cards on the table. I'm also 1121 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,360 Speaker 1: a fellow at the Claremont Institute. Is a fantastic organization, 1122 01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:49,560 Speaker 1: but they are filing a complaint in the FED. Well, 1123 01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:51,920 Speaker 1: to have filed a complaint in the Federal District Court 1124 01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:56,400 Speaker 1: on November the twenty eighth, on behalf of the Pasadena 1125 01:06:56,480 --> 01:07:02,600 Speaker 1: Republican Club because in twenty seventeen, the Pasadena Republican Club 1126 01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,800 Speaker 1: contracted with the Western Justice Center for the rental. I'm 1127 01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,600 Speaker 1: just reading here from there from an article in the 1128 01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:12,520 Speaker 1: Pasadena Independent from the rental of the Maxwell House in 1129 01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,760 Speaker 1: Pasadena to hold an event at which doctor John Eastman 1130 01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,080 Speaker 1: was to be a speaker. Now, this happens a lot, 1131 01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:20,560 Speaker 1: and I know you guys out there have these same problems, 1132 01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:22,160 Speaker 1: and in the next hour, I'm going to bring you 1133 01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:25,840 Speaker 1: an interview with a young lady who's had similar problems 1134 01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:28,400 Speaker 1: with political discrimination. It's a story that was breaking over 1135 01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,480 Speaker 1: the course of today. You may have seen it on Twitter, 1136 01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:33,120 Speaker 1: but I will spay you the details now. Just there's 1137 01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:36,520 Speaker 1: a little bit of a teaser for you. So, doctor 1138 01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,959 Speaker 1: John Eastman was going to be the speaker, and less 1139 01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:44,120 Speaker 1: than two hours before the event, the executive director of 1140 01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:49,880 Speaker 1: the Western Justice Center, who was a retired LA Superior 1141 01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:54,880 Speaker 1: Court Judge Judith Churlin, sent an email to the president 1142 01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:58,080 Speaker 1: of the Pasadena Republican Club cancel the event two hours before. 1143 01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:06,440 Speaker 1: Now they've done events at this venue previously. I've I understand, 1144 01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:12,160 Speaker 1: but Judge Churlin, retired. Judge Churlin, I should say, said 1145 01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:17,400 Speaker 1: that doctor Eastman, a very well renowned professor by the way, 1146 01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:22,719 Speaker 1: was unacceptable as a speaker because of his leadership position 1147 01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:27,679 Speaker 1: in a faith based organization that promotes traditional marriage. It's 1148 01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:33,679 Speaker 1: the National Organization for Marriage and Judge Cherlin retired. Judge 1149 01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:38,559 Speaker 1: Churlin disagreed with doctor Eastman and his political and religious views, 1150 01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:43,040 Speaker 1: and so the Western Justice Center banned the Pasadena Republican 1151 01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:47,240 Speaker 1: Club from holding its event. That's the allegation made in 1152 01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:52,120 Speaker 1: this new complaint on political and religious discrimination by the 1153 01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:56,479 Speaker 1: Claremont Institute. There are other groups, other political groups that 1154 01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,439 Speaker 1: still meet at the Western Justice Center. So this was 1155 01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:03,559 Speaker 1: this particular problem they had with the National Organization for 1156 01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:07,320 Speaker 1: Marriage and doctor John Eastman. Now you see it happening 1157 01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:11,200 Speaker 1: in real life in person in places like that, you 1158 01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:16,160 Speaker 1: obviously see it happening on social media too, mass bannings, blockings. 1159 01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:20,280 Speaker 1: I can't, for instance, promote very much on my Facebook 1160 01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:24,639 Speaker 1: page anymore. They don't let me just block things all 1161 01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:28,080 Speaker 1: the time Patreon, which is a donor platform which I 1162 01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:31,960 Speaker 1: rely on for a significant part of my income. In 1163 01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,639 Speaker 1: case you don't know, I do a daily Raheem rant 1164 01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:38,240 Speaker 1: which works out at about sixteen cents a rant. On 1165 01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:41,400 Speaker 1: there they're kicking conservatives off on mass. So I really 1166 01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:44,280 Speaker 1: wanted to bring you the story from doctor John Eastman himself, 1167 01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:46,000 Speaker 1: but unfortunately weren't able to get hold of him. So 1168 01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:49,040 Speaker 1: I thought I'd walked you through it anyway, and I 1169 01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:53,000 Speaker 1: hope I did the story justice there. But it's good 1170 01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:57,920 Speaker 1: that institutions like Claremont exist and take the fight back 1171 01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:01,600 Speaker 1: to the political left on this right. This is the 1172 01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:03,920 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show, Ambrahem Gassan. We're going to go to 1173 01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:07,519 Speaker 1: a quick break now. When we come back, more great 1174 01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:14,360 Speaker 1: interviews and I hope more of your calls. The Global 1175 01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:20,080 Speaker 1: Verification Network the only dual certified veteran owned background investigations 1176 01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:24,519 Speaker 1: and vetting company. You can find them at MYGVN dot 1177 01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:28,679 Speaker 1: com or call eight seven seven, six nine five eleven 1178 01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:33,040 Speaker 1: seventy nine. 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You do not have to 1196 01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,600 Speaker 1: agree with me, or agree with Buck, or agree with 1197 01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:40,280 Speaker 1: each other, or even agree with yourself. That's what political 1198 01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:43,240 Speaker 1: discourse is all about, and we want to have it 1199 01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:46,080 Speaker 1: here on the Buck Sexton Show. I've got a good 1200 01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,720 Speaker 1: friend of mine on the line. Terry Shilling is the 1201 01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:53,320 Speaker 1: executive director of the American Principles Project. Terry joining us 1202 01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:55,960 Speaker 1: to discuss what I think is an interesting story in 1203 01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:59,960 Speaker 1: the realms of social conservatism and from the pro life 1204 01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:04,160 Speaker 1: movements perspective. Terry, good evening, Hey, thanks so much for 1205 01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,880 Speaker 1: having me her here. Thank you, thank you for taking 1206 01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,280 Speaker 1: time out of your evening to join us here. It's 1207 01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:12,799 Speaker 1: a story which I hope you can help me understand 1208 01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:14,880 Speaker 1: a little bit more, because, as you probably know, Terry 1209 01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:18,599 Speaker 1: in on my side of the pond in the United Kingdom. 1210 01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:22,920 Speaker 1: These stories are you know, we what's we said about 1211 01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:26,720 Speaker 1: abortion is you know, the science is settled. We we 1212 01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,439 Speaker 1: just forget about it now. We just leave the debate 1213 01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:33,800 Speaker 1: where it is and nothing ever changes. But Ohio, I 1214 01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:37,479 Speaker 1: believe is changing or at least trying to change several 1215 01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:41,240 Speaker 1: things regarding their abortion laws. Terry, could you tell us 1216 01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:45,559 Speaker 1: elucidate upon this for us, Yeah, of course, And I 1217 01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:47,320 Speaker 1: just want to say that, you know, I think the 1218 01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:53,439 Speaker 1: reason that the political ramifications of abortion are settled in 1219 01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:56,719 Speaker 1: Great Britain and they're not here is primarily be because 1220 01:12:56,760 --> 01:13:00,120 Speaker 1: of how you guys answered that question, which was through 1221 01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:05,400 Speaker 1: the democratic process. Here in America, we had literally five, 1222 01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:11,000 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, seven justices in black robes determined the abortion 1223 01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:14,479 Speaker 1: laws for the entire country back in nineteen seventy three, 1224 01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:17,040 Speaker 1: and so they kind they try to remove it from 1225 01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:20,400 Speaker 1: the democratic process and say this is settled for everyone, 1226 01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:24,920 Speaker 1: and to the Americans who are like, you know, we're 1227 01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:28,519 Speaker 1: still having this fight today. And what we've seen over 1228 01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:32,840 Speaker 1: the last forty years going on fifty almost actually is 1229 01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:38,200 Speaker 1: rapid advances in our advancements in technology, especially when it 1230 01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:40,320 Speaker 1: comes to healthcare, and we're seeing the faces of these 1231 01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:43,240 Speaker 1: unborn babies, were seeing their heartbeats, we know when they 1232 01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:46,240 Speaker 1: have fingernails. I mean, we've just gotten so much more 1233 01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:49,599 Speaker 1: information since nineteen seventy three went abortion we legalized across 1234 01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:53,040 Speaker 1: the country here and the states are now starting to 1235 01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:57,479 Speaker 1: recognize that through our laws. And in Ohio they just 1236 01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:02,000 Speaker 1: passed a fetal heartbeat bill which basically bands abortion after 1237 01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,920 Speaker 1: the point on which a fetal heartbeat can be detected. 1238 01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:08,559 Speaker 1: The reason that's important is because it's all an argument 1239 01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:12,600 Speaker 1: about the personhood of the child, which is what Roe contested. 1240 01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:16,320 Speaker 1: Roe said that the unborn child was not a person 1241 01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:19,160 Speaker 1: and it was not due to rights and um, and 1242 01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:21,680 Speaker 1: that's where the left has refused to want to go. 1243 01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,880 Speaker 1: And so the right now, especially in Ohio, is they're 1244 01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:27,479 Speaker 1: trying to ban abortion at the point in which there 1245 01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:29,519 Speaker 1: can be a fetal heartbeat detective because they say that's 1246 01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:34,680 Speaker 1: when personhood begins. So what's I understand that this is 1247 01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:38,679 Speaker 1: being challenged at several levels. There there are two different bills. 1248 01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:41,479 Speaker 1: You don't have to explain this one to me. Yeah, 1249 01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:46,160 Speaker 1: So back earlier this year, I think it was just 1250 01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:52,479 Speaker 1: in November, the state legislature of Ohio passed a fetal 1251 01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:56,599 Speaker 1: heartbeat band on abortion and sent it to the Governor's desk, 1252 01:14:56,680 --> 01:15:01,320 Speaker 1: and Governor Kasik actually zetoed that film and so today 1253 01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:03,960 Speaker 1: they had two votes in the state legislature in Ohio 1254 01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:10,280 Speaker 1: UH to override the governor's veto UM, and they managed 1255 01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:14,160 Speaker 1: to override the governor's veto in the House, but on 1256 01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:19,320 Speaker 1: it UH they actually got uh shut down. They lost 1257 01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:23,759 Speaker 1: by one vote. And it was one guy state Senator 1258 01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:27,000 Speaker 1: of Bill Beagle who flipped who was with the pro 1259 01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:32,360 Speaker 1: life side before the the the overturn happen UM, and 1260 01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:34,320 Speaker 1: it was just yeah, it was kind of a betrayal 1261 01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:40,200 Speaker 1: on his part. So what what actually is changing in Ohio? Uh? 1262 01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:42,760 Speaker 1: Nothing at the moment. I mean, they've they've they've done 1263 01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:48,360 Speaker 1: some more restrictions on abortion. Uh. They've they've banned uh 1264 01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:53,639 Speaker 1: dne abortions, which is a really gruesome UH procedure where 1265 01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:57,960 Speaker 1: it's it's mostly for late term abortions where they dismember. 1266 01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:01,840 Speaker 1: That's what the D stands for, is they dismembered the 1267 01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:03,800 Speaker 1: child piece by piece and pull it out. And so 1268 01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:12,280 Speaker 1: Ohio banned that procedure and Governor caseg veto the Heartbeat bill. Well, 1269 01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:16,360 Speaker 1: so the Governor Casey to my understanding of this, says 1270 01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:18,920 Speaker 1: that you know, this isn't going to be held up 1271 01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:21,759 Speaker 1: by a Supreme Court if there's a Supreme Court challenge 1272 01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:24,759 Speaker 1: to this anyway. So I'm just here trying to save 1273 01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:30,200 Speaker 1: ohioan's money. I mean, do you buy that saving them money? 1274 01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:32,639 Speaker 1: I mean no. I think Look, I think that when 1275 01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:36,400 Speaker 1: you're a legislator, you have a different job to do 1276 01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:42,600 Speaker 1: than a justice, and that that job is to legislate 1277 01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:47,519 Speaker 1: according to what you believe the Constitution should do. And 1278 01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:51,800 Speaker 1: it's not our role as legislators or as governors to 1279 01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:56,480 Speaker 1: determine what's going to be upheld constitutional or und constitutional 1280 01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,840 Speaker 1: by the Court. This is what the people sent their 1281 01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:06,040 Speaker 1: state representatives to uh Columbus to do, was to vote 1282 01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:09,400 Speaker 1: for these types of legislation. Um, they don't really care 1283 01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:11,840 Speaker 1: about what the Supreme Court says right now. What they 1284 01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,080 Speaker 1: are wanting to do is tell the Supreme Court, tell 1285 01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:18,080 Speaker 1: the nation that Ohio is against abortion after the point 1286 01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,680 Speaker 1: in which a field heartbeat can be you know, detective, 1287 01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:24,719 Speaker 1: and then let you know, let John Roberts and and 1288 01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:29,200 Speaker 1: let let those guys make their decision. But from my standpoint, 1289 01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,479 Speaker 1: I think that you know, as a citizen and as 1290 01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:34,960 Speaker 1: an American, I have to go with what my personal 1291 01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:38,080 Speaker 1: beliefs are and I can't try and make my decisions 1292 01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:40,120 Speaker 1: and my choices off of what everyone else is going 1293 01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:43,320 Speaker 1: to believe and say it do so, just just finally, Terry, 1294 01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:45,599 Speaker 1: before before we got to go to a break, do 1295 01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:50,519 Speaker 1: you think this moves anything outside of Ohio? Is any 1296 01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:55,040 Speaker 1: Is this going to aid any any other legislatives in 1297 01:17:55,240 --> 01:18:00,479 Speaker 1: making similar changes or trying to make similar changes? Yeah, 1298 01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:03,920 Speaker 1: so I want to I want to be clear. This 1299 01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:09,320 Speaker 1: was actually the second time that Kasik had vetoed a 1300 01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:12,479 Speaker 1: heartbeat bill. He had done it before with the same 1301 01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:17,040 Speaker 1: justification that this would be overturned at the Supreme Court. Look, 1302 01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:20,759 Speaker 1: I think that everything across the entire country is changing 1303 01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:24,360 Speaker 1: on this issue. I think that we now have a 1304 01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:27,680 Speaker 1: slightly pro life majority of the Supreme Court. I'd like 1305 01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:31,960 Speaker 1: to get it to six or seven. But I think 1306 01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:34,720 Speaker 1: that things across the country are changing on this Americans 1307 01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:37,519 Speaker 1: are pro life. Donald Trump ran as a pro life 1308 01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:40,160 Speaker 1: president and he won, and I think it had a 1309 01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:43,519 Speaker 1: lot to do with his deputi Hillary. Well, that's Terry Shilling, 1310 01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:46,400 Speaker 1: the executive director of the American Principles Project. Terry, just 1311 01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:48,439 Speaker 1: tell tell the audience where they can find out more 1312 01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:53,840 Speaker 1: about your work. Oh yeah, it's American Principles Project dot com. 1313 01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:58,759 Speaker 1: Or APPFDC dot org. We fight on the right to life, liberty, 1314 01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:02,240 Speaker 1: pursuit of happiness. If it's in the constitution, we're probably 1315 01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:05,480 Speaker 1: working on the issue. And and just for my amusement, 1316 01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:12,360 Speaker 1: tell them your Twitter handle, it's Pizza Politico. I come 1317 01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:15,720 Speaker 1: from a long line of a pizza restaurant tours, and 1318 01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:19,599 Speaker 1: so my two passions in life are pizza and politics. Terry, 1319 01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:21,240 Speaker 1: I've seen you. You You come from a long line of 1320 01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:25,720 Speaker 1: pizza eats. Is we Terry Shirley, thank you so much 1321 01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:27,680 Speaker 1: for joining us here on the Buck Sexton Show. We're 1322 01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:29,479 Speaker 1: gonna go to a quick break now, but I want 1323 01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:31,080 Speaker 1: to get to you guys on the lines as well. 1324 01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:34,800 Speaker 1: One eight four four nine hundred buck eight four four 1325 01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:38,000 Speaker 1: nine hundred two eight to five quick break now, then 1326 01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:40,559 Speaker 1: more of your calls, more interviews. We're gonna cram it 1327 01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:45,000 Speaker 1: all in. We'll be right back to the Buck Sexton Show. 1328 01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:48,519 Speaker 1: I'm Rahem Kasam filling in for Buck Sexton today live 1329 01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:53,080 Speaker 1: out of the Washington, DC Freedom Hut. I want to 1330 01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:55,160 Speaker 1: get to more callers in the next segments, so hang 1331 01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:57,280 Speaker 1: on the lines eight four four nine hundred buck eight 1332 01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:59,800 Speaker 1: four four nine hundred two eight two five. But at 1333 01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:04,719 Speaker 1: the last minute this evening before the show, or midway 1334 01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:08,800 Speaker 1: through the show. In fact, i'd like to I like 1335 01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:10,960 Speaker 1: to mix it up, keep myself on my toes. I 1336 01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:15,000 Speaker 1: decided to have on our next guest because of a 1337 01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:21,400 Speaker 1: story that's been breaking really over social media across today. 1338 01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:25,720 Speaker 1: I confess she's a friend of mine, so I want 1339 01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:30,240 Speaker 1: to I want to caveat it with that. But it's 1340 01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:35,080 Speaker 1: also another one of those stories that plays into what 1341 01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:40,599 Speaker 1: we were discussing earlier on about conservatives being banned from 1342 01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:45,519 Speaker 1: life effectively, whether it's a Republican club being banned from 1343 01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:50,960 Speaker 1: hosting a speaker, whether it's on social media. Now, i'd 1344 01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:55,280 Speaker 1: like to introduce you to a former Fox News producer, 1345 01:20:55,400 --> 01:21:00,519 Speaker 1: Perdis Salah, Perdis, Are you on the line? Yes? Put us. 1346 01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:04,080 Speaker 1: I think you should talk us through what exactly has 1347 01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:07,880 Speaker 1: been going on with you. This isn't just this hasn't 1348 01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:11,639 Speaker 1: just happened today. You've experienced this over some time, right, 1349 01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:16,519 Speaker 1: but but today the story really came out. I'm dodging 1350 01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:18,360 Speaker 1: around it because I want you to. I want you 1351 01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:23,439 Speaker 1: to lay it all out for us. Okay, thanks, Um. So, 1352 01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:26,360 Speaker 1: the past couple of days, I was looking for an 1353 01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:30,200 Speaker 1: apartment to rent in UM. I you know, I live 1354 01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:33,800 Speaker 1: in DC already. I've been living here for over two years. 1355 01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:37,000 Speaker 1: But I wanted to downsize and get roommates to save 1356 01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:40,080 Speaker 1: to save money on rent, and I wanted to stay 1357 01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:42,760 Speaker 1: in the same area that I live in. And so 1358 01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:47,320 Speaker 1: I was you know, surfing through the web based credless 1359 01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:53,360 Speaker 1: zillo so and looking looking for a room in an 1360 01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:58,440 Speaker 1: apartment UM since yesterday when I started, I was rejected 1361 01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:02,759 Speaker 1: by two UM. But I was rejected by two places 1362 01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:05,720 Speaker 1: that I applied for, and one of them sent me 1363 01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:08,519 Speaker 1: back in email. The first one was yesterday over the phone, 1364 01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:14,320 Speaker 1: I was told that, UM, they wouldn't be accepting any 1365 01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:19,720 Speaker 1: roommates who are either Trump supporters or fans at Fox News. UM. 1366 01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:24,479 Speaker 1: And of course I told him, you know, I told 1367 01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:30,280 Speaker 1: him that I worked there. So they were like, uh, no, 1368 01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:36,000 Speaker 1: way whatever. But then today, UM, I got the I 1369 01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:40,720 Speaker 1: received an email. I received it in writing, and UM 1370 01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:45,439 Speaker 1: it was. Their Their response was, well, thanks for applying, 1371 01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:50,400 Speaker 1: but you know or you're we we can't have someone 1372 01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:53,000 Speaker 1: thats for political views like you're they're really opposed to 1373 01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:56,920 Speaker 1: ours and we hate Fox by the way, UM, good 1374 01:22:57,000 --> 01:23:02,320 Speaker 1: luck with your search. So yeah, I, UM, you know 1375 01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:06,160 Speaker 1: I posted a screenshot of the email. Of course I um, 1376 01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:09,479 Speaker 1: I wiped out like there, I've watched out their name. 1377 01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:14,800 Speaker 1: There's idea for the ad on you know, the ad 1378 01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:20,439 Speaker 1: that they had online. Um, but definitely something that I 1379 01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:24,559 Speaker 1: was experiencing lately, and not just with apartments. But this 1380 01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:27,320 Speaker 1: is with the housing has to come out. So I 1381 01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:30,200 Speaker 1: just I'll read, I'll read the I'll read the response 1382 01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:33,080 Speaker 1: that you got out for the for the audience here. 1383 01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:35,760 Speaker 1: So you applied for this apartment and you've had this 1384 01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:40,000 Speaker 1: experience before and they responded, thank you for your interest, perdus. 1385 01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:44,439 Speaker 1: After perusing your various journalistic and social media posts, it's 1386 01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:50,759 Speaker 1: pretty clear your politics views okay, our diametry diametrically opposed 1387 01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:53,599 Speaker 1: to ours, and we hate Fox. Hopefully you will find 1388 01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:56,880 Speaker 1: a place where that will be a good fit. Now 1389 01:23:57,320 --> 01:24:01,600 Speaker 1: you've also said that you know you don't intend to 1390 01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:05,559 Speaker 1: sue or punish anybody or out them for not renting 1391 01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:09,000 Speaker 1: you a room. That's obviously it's it's their house and 1392 01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:11,799 Speaker 1: they have, I suppose the right to be as bigoted 1393 01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,679 Speaker 1: as they want. But but somebody else, a mutual friend 1394 01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:17,639 Speaker 1: of ours, ezra levant Over at the Rebel Media pointed 1395 01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:20,519 Speaker 1: this out on Twitter earlier. He said, if if you 1396 01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:23,080 Speaker 1: were on the political left and this had happened to you, 1397 01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:25,160 Speaker 1: and you were on the political left, you'd be on 1398 01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:29,320 Speaker 1: CNN right now, the SPLC, the Southern Property Law Center, 1399 01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:32,280 Speaker 1: and the ADL would be suing in your name. The 1400 01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:35,240 Speaker 1: landlord would be named in shame. Let's face it there. 1401 01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:37,840 Speaker 1: Their face would be out there, their phone number would 1402 01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:39,960 Speaker 1: be out there, their email address would be out there. 1403 01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:44,439 Speaker 1: They wouldn't have been blocked redacted from from the email 1404 01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:47,439 Speaker 1: that they sent. And you know, you would have a 1405 01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:50,160 Speaker 1: massive go fund me account with probably hundreds of thousands 1406 01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:52,400 Speaker 1: of dollars already in it, where you could probably buy 1407 01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:55,240 Speaker 1: a house in Calorama, let alone worry about renting one. Now, 1408 01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:58,200 Speaker 1: I know you do have a go fund Me to 1409 01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:00,519 Speaker 1: help you out in this at the moment, and I'm 1410 01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:02,320 Speaker 1: pleased to say that over the last I think it's 1411 01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:04,559 Speaker 1: been up for like three hours and it's already raised 1412 01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:06,880 Speaker 1: seven hundred and five dollars out of the thousand dollars goal. 1413 01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,240 Speaker 1: But I mean, we are we playing Why do we 1414 01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:11,720 Speaker 1: play fair when they don't play fair? Why shouldn't we 1415 01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:16,479 Speaker 1: out these people? Put us um? I mean a lot 1416 01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:19,880 Speaker 1: of people have said that, why you know, why are 1417 01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:22,479 Speaker 1: you They would do the same exact thing to you 1418 01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:25,400 Speaker 1: if you were progressive and you were saying and you're 1419 01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:28,240 Speaker 1: and you were saying, well, they're discriminating against me because 1420 01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:30,880 Speaker 1: of my the color of my skin. You know, I'm 1421 01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:34,640 Speaker 1: brown and I'm the child of Middle Eastern refugees. You 1422 01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:38,639 Speaker 1: know I could I uh, if that was my story. 1423 01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:41,160 Speaker 1: I mean, if that was the story that I presented 1424 01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:44,640 Speaker 1: to them, then I would get just discriminated then I 1425 01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:49,559 Speaker 1: then you know, I would shoe them and get them 1426 01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:54,400 Speaker 1: in trouble or whatever. Um. But I mean that it 1427 01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:57,320 Speaker 1: always angers me when I see people do that on 1428 01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:04,320 Speaker 1: the West always, and it like it feels disingenuous. UM. 1429 01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:08,880 Speaker 1: I mean because it's because it's there, because because it's 1430 01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:12,760 Speaker 1: like fair game. So why you know, because it's there 1431 01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:15,200 Speaker 1: is then why not? But it still makes me annoyed. 1432 01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:19,960 Speaker 1: I think that people should be able to um, people 1433 01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:22,760 Speaker 1: should be able to refuse service to other people. I 1434 01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:26,920 Speaker 1: mean this couple that this is these two guys who 1435 01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:31,200 Speaker 1: actually were like I mean the guy who who sent 1436 01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:34,960 Speaker 1: me this email. UM, they're like they're gay, So you 1437 01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:39,600 Speaker 1: know I wouldn't I UM, the same way that I 1438 01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:45,360 Speaker 1: think that they should be able to, um, refuse their rooming, 1439 01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:49,320 Speaker 1: their housing to people that they don't like. People should 1440 01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:54,200 Speaker 1: be able to refuse service to you know, like anyone. Yeah, 1441 01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:56,760 Speaker 1: well you and you probably have to bake them a 1442 01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:59,559 Speaker 1: cake now, don't you to apologize for applying for a 1443 01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:02,479 Speaker 1: room in the in their house? That's I think that's 1444 01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:04,439 Speaker 1: the penalty. Purdus. I just wanted I wanted to bring 1445 01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:06,680 Speaker 1: that story to the audience because it's breaking over the 1446 01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:09,000 Speaker 1: course of the day. Tell the audience where they can, 1447 01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:12,080 Speaker 1: where they can catch up with you your work, how 1448 01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:15,719 Speaker 1: they can support you. Um. You can find me on 1449 01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:19,760 Speaker 1: Twitter at Taras Sellers p A R D E S 1450 01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:24,280 Speaker 1: S E l e H. Purdis Is. She's being very humble. 1451 01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:27,599 Speaker 1: She's actually a bit of a Twitter celebrity with nearly 1452 01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:30,559 Speaker 1: I think fifty thousand followers now, So yeah, go and 1453 01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:33,160 Speaker 1: go and follow her support her work in any way. 1454 01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:34,800 Speaker 1: Cam Purdis, thanks for joining us here on the Buck 1455 01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:38,280 Speaker 1: Sexton Show and talking us through that. Um, thanks thanks 1456 01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:42,800 Speaker 1: for having me on absolutely right phone lines. Do you 1457 01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:45,679 Speaker 1: think that's right or wrong? Do you think she should 1458 01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:49,080 Speaker 1: out them or not? Eight four four nine hundred b 1459 01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:51,519 Speaker 1: U c K eight four four nine hundred two eight 1460 01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:53,080 Speaker 1: two five. I also want to get to the other 1461 01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:56,000 Speaker 1: callers who I know are waiting on the line as well. 1462 01:27:56,080 --> 01:28:01,960 Speaker 1: Let's let's get to Quint from Springfield Online to Quint. 1463 01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:04,960 Speaker 1: You're there with me? How are you doing? I'm good? 1464 01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:08,720 Speaker 1: How are you pretty good? Yeah? I used to work 1465 01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:11,880 Speaker 1: work at a correctional facility in the northeast here in 1466 01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:15,519 Speaker 1: a pretty liberal state, and uh, you know it was 1467 01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:17,759 Speaker 1: this is a good job and a good facility, great facility. 1468 01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:21,559 Speaker 1: They try to rehabuildate everybody, and uh, you know, and 1469 01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:24,360 Speaker 1: they've been you know, they did accommodate for all religions. 1470 01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:28,519 Speaker 1: Everyone could have their own you know, uh mass you know, Catholic, 1471 01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:33,040 Speaker 1: pass Muslim, Islamic or uh you know what what a Protestant, whatever, 1472 01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:38,040 Speaker 1: Hippim might be have accommodate. But it became, uh, you 1473 01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:40,240 Speaker 1: know to a point where like like, you know, nothing 1474 01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:42,760 Speaker 1: against Ramai or I thing, but do it. They would 1475 01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:47,040 Speaker 1: bend over backwards for the Islamic Um traditions to the 1476 01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:51,200 Speaker 1: point where they started to kind of breach security protocol, 1477 01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:54,120 Speaker 1: you know, like we couldn't even touch their meals or anything, 1478 01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:55,720 Speaker 1: or you can look at them or things like that. 1479 01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:58,840 Speaker 1: So I kind of started to breach like security. Hey, Quint, 1480 01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:00,960 Speaker 1: hang on the line. Don't go in where we've got 1481 01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:02,519 Speaker 1: We've got a hard break now, but hang on the line. 1482 01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:04,120 Speaker 1: I want to bring you back after the break and 1483 01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:06,240 Speaker 1: you can tell us more about this because I'm genuinely 1484 01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:09,080 Speaker 1: fascinated by it. This is the Buck Sexton Show. And 1485 01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:11,679 Speaker 1: if you want to have your say as well. Eight 1486 01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:15,519 Speaker 1: four four nine hundred two eight two five, I'm Rahem Kasam. 1487 01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:19,160 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Welcome back to the Buck Sexton Show. 1488 01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:22,880 Speaker 1: Raheim Kasalm here filling in for Buck today out of 1489 01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:26,240 Speaker 1: the Washington DC Freedom Hut. I'm hoping we still have 1490 01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:30,320 Speaker 1: Quint on the line from from Massachusetts. Quint, are you 1491 01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:33,519 Speaker 1: with us? Yes, sir, Hey, sorry about that earlier. We're 1492 01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:35,240 Speaker 1: up against the hard break, but I'm glad we I'm 1493 01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:38,840 Speaker 1: glad we kept you over. You were saying that where 1494 01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:42,880 Speaker 1: where you worked in the in the prison system, that 1495 01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:47,519 Speaker 1: Islam was treated with kid gloves. Is that right? Yes? Yes, yep, 1496 01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:51,520 Speaker 1: to the point where it's it almost like preached security 1497 01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:58,120 Speaker 1: protocol and that kind of them. The separate critical thing 1498 01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:01,280 Speaker 1: was they had us two classes on not only the 1499 01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:04,240 Speaker 1: gangs and things like that and then their situations. But 1500 01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:09,760 Speaker 1: like the radical Islam and the radicalization you know, for 1501 01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:12,720 Speaker 1: terrorism through this prison system. And they harped on it. 1502 01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:14,600 Speaker 1: I mean they said, looked out for ana, keep an 1503 01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:17,040 Speaker 1: eye on it. And we didn't. You know, it wasn't 1504 01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:21,479 Speaker 1: too prevalent or anything. But I mean this area, I think, Dave, 1505 01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:25,559 Speaker 1: some of the some of the people involved in nine 1506 01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:28,240 Speaker 1: to eleven came through here through the area is lived then, 1507 01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:31,800 Speaker 1: you know, in this in the northeast here, and so 1508 01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:34,840 Speaker 1: you know, I would I pay attention. And he was 1509 01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:38,880 Speaker 1: when they made he was uh a Muslim or practice Islam, 1510 01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:41,320 Speaker 1: and the he was kind of a challenging. He made 1511 01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:43,720 Speaker 1: to challenge me ridicular, and you know I would, I 1512 01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:46,479 Speaker 1: would treat him with respect and everything. But when he 1513 01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:51,000 Speaker 1: was released lower security, he left behind some shoes that 1514 01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:55,000 Speaker 1: had Islam Arabic writing on it, and I noticed the 1515 01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:57,720 Speaker 1: word Ghat on it. I don't know if I don't 1516 01:30:57,760 --> 01:30:59,680 Speaker 1: know how exactly what it's said or anything like that. 1517 01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:02,040 Speaker 1: I said, okay, you know, it was like left it 1518 01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:04,639 Speaker 1: as a message, you know, and I don't know exactly 1519 01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:07,040 Speaker 1: what it said, but I reported it and I turned 1520 01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:08,920 Speaker 1: them in and you know, you know, I asked like 1521 01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:11,000 Speaker 1: a week later, said, Hey, what happened today, And they said, oh, 1522 01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:13,600 Speaker 1: we lost the shoes. You know, the guys all so 1523 01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:14,920 Speaker 1: were you guys to tell them me to you know, 1524 01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:17,479 Speaker 1: keep an eye on this stuff. Yeah, they kind of 1525 01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:19,800 Speaker 1: like maybe the guy wasn't it wasn't a serious thing 1526 01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:22,759 Speaker 1: or anything, but you know, they kind of like definitely, 1527 01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:25,720 Speaker 1: like you said that, you know, with metence. You know, 1528 01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:28,920 Speaker 1: they're treating them with you know, definitely wouldn't really deal 1529 01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:30,720 Speaker 1: with the situation even though they were aware of it. 1530 01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:33,400 Speaker 1: You know, it's very interesting because you seem to be 1531 01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:36,000 Speaker 1: experiencing now in the United States something that that we 1532 01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:39,040 Speaker 1: went through in the United Kingdom about a decade ago. 1533 01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:44,480 Speaker 1: With this, we have had typically a massive Muslim population 1534 01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:47,800 Speaker 1: way way out stripping the number of Muslims in in 1535 01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:50,040 Speaker 1: in you know, why the society is a percentage of 1536 01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:53,599 Speaker 1: the population m in the prison system in the United Kingdom. 1537 01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:56,160 Speaker 1: And of course, uh, there was a there was a 1538 01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:59,200 Speaker 1: report into this a couple of years ago where they 1539 01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:05,960 Speaker 1: found that actually a massive, statistically high incidents of criminal 1540 01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:08,759 Speaker 1: non Muslims were converting to Islam in the prison system 1541 01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:10,880 Speaker 1: as well. And this links back to the story we 1542 01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:13,320 Speaker 1: were discussing with our friend Alana Goodman at the Washington 1543 01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:18,200 Speaker 1: Examiner earlier. The Chaplains, the Muslim Chaplains are given far 1544 01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:23,240 Speaker 1: more leeway than any other religion. But also, I want 1545 01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:24,960 Speaker 1: to quote for you here. I just pulled it up 1546 01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:28,240 Speaker 1: this Chief Inspector of Prisons in the United Kingdom, Dame 1547 01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:31,519 Speaker 1: Ann Owens. She said that people are converting to Islam 1548 01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:34,679 Speaker 1: in prisons in the United Kingdom because they seek support 1549 01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:38,240 Speaker 1: and protection in a group with a powerful identity. They 1550 01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:44,360 Speaker 1: perceive material advantages of identifying as Muslim in prison, including 1551 01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:48,200 Speaker 1: material benefits only available to Muslims, such as more time 1552 01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:51,400 Speaker 1: out of their cell and better food during Ramadan if 1553 01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:55,040 Speaker 1: they become Muslim? Is that something Quinn that you experienced? Oh, 1554 01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:58,360 Speaker 1: write on the money. These guys, they would they didn't 1555 01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:00,599 Speaker 1: care about the religion at all, but it would claim 1556 01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:03,479 Speaker 1: it and it'd get the extra meals. And it's still 1557 01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:05,400 Speaker 1: asked for extra meals, you know what I mean. They 1558 01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:07,960 Speaker 1: really did have no respect through religion and ore, and 1559 01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:10,200 Speaker 1: they would accommodate them. You know what. We knew it. 1560 01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:13,479 Speaker 1: We knew they were abusing it. And it was just 1561 01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:16,240 Speaker 1: as it's a it's you know, turning the other cheek 1562 01:33:16,479 --> 01:33:20,639 Speaker 1: sting with the Boston Parmers, you know, the Psarchaia brothers. 1563 01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:23,920 Speaker 1: They you know, these guys got a free pass, a 1564 01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:27,960 Speaker 1: free pass. It's extraordinary stuff and I think requires a 1565 01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:30,760 Speaker 1: lot more investigation. I wish, I wish there were real, 1566 01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:33,360 Speaker 1: so many real news agencies out there that they would 1567 01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:36,760 Speaker 1: get onto it. But certainly there should be enough on 1568 01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:39,679 Speaker 1: our side of that debate that more of this information 1569 01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:41,599 Speaker 1: comes to light. As I said to an earlier caller, 1570 01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:45,920 Speaker 1: quint I tried to do my part in investigating what 1571 01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:47,760 Speaker 1: was going on with artical Islam in Europe and the 1572 01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:50,960 Speaker 1: United States in my book last year, No go Zones Um. 1573 01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:54,120 Speaker 1: But but there is so much more than that just 1574 01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:56,200 Speaker 1: a single book can deal with. And and you know, 1575 01:33:56,280 --> 01:33:59,519 Speaker 1: it's it's a brutal task because of course, when you 1576 01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:03,000 Speaker 1: when you try and figure out what's going on, you're 1577 01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:06,200 Speaker 1: labeled an islamophobe and a hater and a racist and 1578 01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:08,400 Speaker 1: a xenophobe and all that kind of stuff. And it's 1579 01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:12,320 Speaker 1: really quite extraordinary when you think about it, because effectively, 1580 01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:16,840 Speaker 1: what the critics are saying then is the terrorism is 1581 01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:21,439 Speaker 1: inextricably Islamic. Right. They're saying to you that those two 1582 01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:25,920 Speaker 1: things are inseparable. That they're inseparable, and that by criticizing one, 1583 01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:28,120 Speaker 1: you are necessarily criticizing the other, and so on and 1584 01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:31,000 Speaker 1: so forth. Look, I came from a Muslim family. I 1585 01:34:31,080 --> 01:34:34,200 Speaker 1: haven't been the Muslim for about well over ten years now, 1586 01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:37,280 Speaker 1: but I know what goes on in that faith. I 1587 01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:39,320 Speaker 1: know what goes on in those mosques, I know what 1588 01:34:39,439 --> 01:34:44,200 Speaker 1: goes on in civil society within Muslim organizations. For the 1589 01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:49,120 Speaker 1: most part, Muslims who emigrate into the Western world don't 1590 01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:53,360 Speaker 1: want to be a part of anything fundamentalist or radical, 1591 01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:59,120 Speaker 1: but they are not helped by these leftists, liberals and 1592 01:34:59,240 --> 01:35:04,840 Speaker 1: progressives who treat radical Islam with kid gloves. Quinn, give, yeah, 1593 01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:08,080 Speaker 1: they're hypocrites. Sharia a lot, you know, the deuce little 1594 01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:10,320 Speaker 1: women and things like that. And then and then on 1595 01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:12,600 Speaker 1: the other hand, they say, oh, that's okay, you know, 1596 01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:15,559 Speaker 1: that's okay, And they fought this hard for women's rights 1597 01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:17,679 Speaker 1: and things like that, and then they want to turn 1598 01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:20,200 Speaker 1: a you know, turn a cheek to these guys. You know, 1599 01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:22,960 Speaker 1: all right, absolutely all right, Quinn, that's a great call. 1600 01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:24,920 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for it. Here on the Buck 1601 01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:27,160 Speaker 1: Sexton Show, the phone number here is eight four four 1602 01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:30,519 Speaker 1: nine hundred Buck eight four four nine hundred two eight 1603 01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:34,200 Speaker 1: two five. I think I think it's break time for us, 1604 01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:36,360 Speaker 1: and then we'll be right back. We've got I'm going 1605 01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:39,080 Speaker 1: to bring you some some update on Brexit. I know 1606 01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:41,240 Speaker 1: a lot of you are interested in what's going on 1607 01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:44,600 Speaker 1: with Brexit. Brexit and the election of President Trump in 1608 01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:48,439 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen were inextricably linked, as you know, the rebellion, 1609 01:35:48,479 --> 01:35:53,160 Speaker 1: the fight back between two sovereign peoples against I suppose 1610 01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:56,040 Speaker 1: what you would call the rise of the bureaucratic or 1611 01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:59,200 Speaker 1: administrative state. My friend Ben Harris Quinney, he's the chairman 1612 01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:01,880 Speaker 1: of the oldest conservative think tank in the United Kingdom. 1613 01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:04,160 Speaker 1: He's staying up very late in the UK. I think 1614 01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:06,600 Speaker 1: it's about one forty five in the morning, so he 1615 01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:08,400 Speaker 1: can join us on the show in just a moment. 1616 01:36:08,439 --> 01:36:11,439 Speaker 1: So quick break and we'll be right back. Welcome back. 1617 01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:13,479 Speaker 1: Final moments here are the Buck Sexton Show. Am ra 1618 01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:16,760 Speaker 1: him Becauseanthaning in for Bucks Sexton from the Freedom Hut 1619 01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:21,000 Speaker 1: here in Washington, d C. Headline jumped out at me 1620 01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:25,759 Speaker 1: over the break. Transgender inmate gets rare transfer to female prison. 1621 01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:28,200 Speaker 1: Just want to read this to here a transgender woman 1622 01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:30,519 Speaker 1: serving a ten year sentence in Illinois for burglary has 1623 01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:33,040 Speaker 1: been moved from a men's to a women's prison in 1624 01:36:33,160 --> 01:36:36,720 Speaker 1: what is a rare accommodation by state prison authorities. Her 1625 01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:42,080 Speaker 1: lawyers announced Thursday. Her lawyers announced Thursday. Apparently Dion Hampton, 1626 01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:46,439 Speaker 1: otherwise known as Strawberry twenty seven, was moved after a 1627 01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:50,200 Speaker 1: year long legal battle and resistance from the Illinois Department 1628 01:36:50,360 --> 01:36:54,599 Speaker 1: of Corrections. Well, it's going to work out. Well, all right, 1629 01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:58,000 Speaker 1: we are in the final stages here today. I get 1630 01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:01,439 Speaker 1: sad every time it's it's at the end of the show. 1631 01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:03,200 Speaker 1: I want to take a quick call from Patrick in 1632 01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:05,920 Speaker 1: New York State Online one, then jump over to Ben 1633 01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:10,519 Speaker 1: Harris Quinny. Patrick you with us, Hello, Hey Patrick, how's 1634 01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:13,200 Speaker 1: it going good? How are you doing tonight? Yeah? Good? 1635 01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:17,000 Speaker 1: Go right ahead, Well with the last color that you 1636 01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:20,120 Speaker 1: had um seeing that he got duped or felt duped 1637 01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:25,639 Speaker 1: by President Trump. Me personally, I'm not a Trump fan whatsoever. However, 1638 01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:29,960 Speaker 1: I do see that he was trying to make a joke, 1639 01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:34,280 Speaker 1: and I think that, you know, people are taking everything 1640 01:37:34,439 --> 01:37:37,599 Speaker 1: way too seriously these days. I think you're right too 1641 01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:41,120 Speaker 1: seriously and too literally as well. Right, yeah, exactly. I 1642 01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:44,680 Speaker 1: mean you you know, I follow I watch all the 1643 01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:48,760 Speaker 1: different um news channels, the mainstream. I watched the Right, 1644 01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:52,200 Speaker 1: the last everything, just to see what everybody's saying. And 1645 01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:57,080 Speaker 1: it seems that everybody takes every single thing just way 1646 01:37:57,160 --> 01:38:01,000 Speaker 1: too seriously and then they throw it. I mean just 1647 01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:03,559 Speaker 1: just say, they try to make it the worst case 1648 01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:07,200 Speaker 1: scenario possible. We're all in the mood for outrage all 1649 01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:11,280 Speaker 1: the time. Patrick, exactly. Well, I'm glad you're not. I'm 1650 01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:13,080 Speaker 1: glad you are more level headed. I try and stay 1651 01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:16,439 Speaker 1: the same way. Patrick in New York State, Thank you 1652 01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:19,040 Speaker 1: so much for the call here on the Buck Sexton Show. 1653 01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:21,000 Speaker 1: I want to pivot now to my friend Baron Ben 1654 01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:24,920 Speaker 1: Harris Quinney, the chairman of the oldest and sadly probably 1655 01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:27,680 Speaker 1: the only conservative thing tank in the United Kingdom. Ben, 1656 01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:32,880 Speaker 1: good evening, good morning for you. I guess well, no, 1657 01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:35,519 Speaker 1: it's it's it's the early hours. I consider at night 1658 01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:37,640 Speaker 1: time still, so it's good to be with you. No, 1659 01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:40,680 Speaker 1: it's what it's one forty five in the morning, is 1660 01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:45,679 Speaker 1: it not. Well, technically, you're right. I am being literal. 1661 01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:49,800 Speaker 1: I am being literal about it. Ben. I wanted to 1662 01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:51,519 Speaker 1: have you on because a lot of a lot of 1663 01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:55,160 Speaker 1: I know a lot of our friends in the United States, 1664 01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:57,920 Speaker 1: they often ask me. In fact, it's the first question 1665 01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:01,639 Speaker 1: anyone ever asks me is what's going on with Brexit? 1666 01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:05,400 Speaker 1: And it's become such a painful thing to have to answer. 1667 01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:08,240 Speaker 1: So instead of answering that question myself, I'm going to 1668 01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:11,479 Speaker 1: throw it over to you. What is going on with 1669 01:39:11,680 --> 01:39:14,400 Speaker 1: Britain leaving the European Union? I thought I thought we 1670 01:39:14,439 --> 01:39:18,880 Speaker 1: were out. What happened? What's happening? Well, it's fair to 1671 01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:22,400 Speaker 1: say that very few people in the United Kingdom understand 1672 01:39:22,439 --> 01:39:25,240 Speaker 1: what is going on with so I hope you're one 1673 01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:28,720 Speaker 1: of them. I don't think that. Well, it sort of 1674 01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:33,439 Speaker 1: is the author and things have progressed in the last 1675 01:39:33,479 --> 01:39:36,679 Speaker 1: few weeks. We've gone from a position where there could 1676 01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:41,000 Speaker 1: have been a number of potential deals to a situation 1677 01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:44,840 Speaker 1: where it is either May's proposal, which is not leaving 1678 01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:49,800 Speaker 1: the European Union. That's the Prime Minister's proposal, yeah, or 1679 01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:55,120 Speaker 1: what is termed a no deal scenario where all ties 1680 01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:59,639 Speaker 1: are automatically severed on our exit date March twenty ninth, 1681 01:40:00,439 --> 01:40:05,680 Speaker 1: and we fall out under World Trade Organization rules and 1682 01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:08,519 Speaker 1: have to remake all of our relationships with the world 1683 01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:11,360 Speaker 1: and the EU from there, and that I just I 1684 01:40:11,479 --> 01:40:14,320 Speaker 1: just most Brexiteers. Yeah, I just want to I just 1685 01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:16,559 Speaker 1: want to reset on that for people who don't quite 1686 01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:21,680 Speaker 1: understand what the deal means. So leaving, contrary to what 1687 01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:25,479 Speaker 1: you might think, when Britain voted to leave the European 1688 01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:29,800 Speaker 1: Union on June twenty, twenty sixteen, we didn't actually then leave. 1689 01:40:30,240 --> 01:40:35,360 Speaker 1: We enacted something called Article fifty, which is a part 1690 01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:40,360 Speaker 1: of our treaty with the European Union. That is a 1691 01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:44,000 Speaker 1: mechanism by which a nation is supposed to be able 1692 01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:48,320 Speaker 1: to leave, and it's effectively a two year long leaving process. 1693 01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:51,200 Speaker 1: And I can already I can hear the eyes rolling 1694 01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:54,640 Speaker 1: in the collective heads of Americans listening to this. But 1695 01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:58,559 Speaker 1: it sort of makes sense because there are so many 1696 01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:06,080 Speaker 1: things are so intertwined, whether it's scientific research or passporting, 1697 01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:11,120 Speaker 1: financial services, regulatory staff, judicial staff. It sort of makes 1698 01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:13,320 Speaker 1: sense that you do that. But Ben, as you were saying, 1699 01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:18,240 Speaker 1: we haven't really got anywhere with the post Article fifty negotiations, 1700 01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:21,639 Speaker 1: but we do leave nevertheless on March to twenty ninth 1701 01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:26,320 Speaker 1: next year. Well that's the crucial thing, and that's what 1702 01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:32,840 Speaker 1: our senior patron and senior Member of Parliament, John Redwood 1703 01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:36,960 Speaker 1: ensured was on the legislation that the date is fixed, 1704 01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:40,800 Speaker 1: that March twenty ninth bass fixed. We of course have 1705 01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:44,959 Speaker 1: a prime minister that supported Remain, we have a cabinet 1706 01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:48,400 Speaker 1: a government that largely supported Remain, and we have a 1707 01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:52,840 Speaker 1: Parliament that is largely also made up of Remained supporters. 1708 01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:55,879 Speaker 1: So they have been the ones that have been handling 1709 01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:59,320 Speaker 1: the Article fifty process, the two year process that you mentioned, 1710 01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:03,400 Speaker 1: and of course they've decided amongst themselves that it would 1711 01:42:03,400 --> 01:42:04,960 Speaker 1: be a good thing for us to more or less 1712 01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:08,120 Speaker 1: continue to be a member of the European Union. What 1713 01:42:08,479 --> 01:42:13,360 Speaker 1: a few backbench MPs and other campaigners like Nigel Farage 1714 01:42:13,640 --> 01:42:16,640 Speaker 1: outside of Parliament has said is that is not the 1715 01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:20,439 Speaker 1: Brexit we voted for. And so when that March twenty 1716 01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:25,120 Speaker 1: ninth deadline comes up, it's game over. If you haven't 1717 01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:27,560 Speaker 1: managed to come up with a deal that satisfies the 1718 01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:31,880 Speaker 1: British public, then we simply automatically leave under this no 1719 01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:34,760 Speaker 1: deal scenario. And as I say, that is now the 1720 01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:40,280 Speaker 1: best case scenario for those who support Brexit, and that's 1721 01:42:40,360 --> 01:42:44,639 Speaker 1: what we are now all preparing for. And American listeners. 1722 01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:47,200 Speaker 1: But it's actually very good news when it comes to 1723 01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:50,160 Speaker 1: doing a trade deal with the United States because it 1724 01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:54,400 Speaker 1: leaves the door wide open with absolutely no restrictions, whereas 1725 01:42:54,720 --> 01:42:57,720 Speaker 1: what the deal May is proposing would mean that we 1726 01:42:58,120 --> 01:43:00,840 Speaker 1: probably couldn't sign the kind of deal that Donald Trump 1727 01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:04,160 Speaker 1: is proposing. Yeah, and that's actually a big deal. It's 1728 01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:06,840 Speaker 1: not an insignificant amount of money we're talking about here. 1729 01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:09,519 Speaker 1: With the trade that takes place between the United Kingdom 1730 01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:12,479 Speaker 1: and the United States. This would be a big boon 1731 01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:15,400 Speaker 1: to President Trump, and it would be a massive shot 1732 01:43:15,439 --> 01:43:18,960 Speaker 1: in the arm for a British economy that needs a 1733 01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:27,400 Speaker 1: strategic financial alliances when leaving. Although the fastest shrinking or 1734 01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:30,400 Speaker 1: the slowest growing trading blog in the world still a 1735 01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:36,280 Speaker 1: big trading blog, so I can't go ahead. The no 1736 01:43:36,439 --> 01:43:39,439 Speaker 1: deal scenario is basically hitting the reset button and all 1737 01:43:39,479 --> 01:43:42,920 Speaker 1: of our trade deals throughout the world, which is going 1738 01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:46,640 Speaker 1: to mean choppy waters. But it also means a fantastic opportunity. 1739 01:43:47,200 --> 01:43:50,680 Speaker 1: And we are one of the leading trade partners with 1740 01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:53,719 Speaker 1: the United States. But I think the point is actually 1741 01:43:54,160 --> 01:43:59,120 Speaker 1: the potential that we have to become each other's pre 1742 01:43:59,240 --> 01:44:04,639 Speaker 1: eminent trading partners. And for that current multi billion dollar 1743 01:44:04,760 --> 01:44:08,439 Speaker 1: trade relationship to turn into a multi trillion dollar trade 1744 01:44:08,439 --> 01:44:10,880 Speaker 1: relationship over the next decade. And I think that is 1745 01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:14,160 Speaker 1: absolutely possible. And we're very fortunate to have a president 1746 01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:15,880 Speaker 1: in Donald Trump that wants to put us to the 1747 01:44:15,960 --> 01:44:19,519 Speaker 1: front of the queue rather than as Barack Obama said, 1748 01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:23,439 Speaker 1: to the back. Yeah, that was that was an extraordinary moment. 1749 01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:26,960 Speaker 1: For those of you who don't remember, President Obama flew 1750 01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:31,479 Speaker 1: to London and threatened the United Kingdom that they must 1751 01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:34,280 Speaker 1: that we must vote to stay in the European Union 1752 01:44:34,360 --> 01:44:36,880 Speaker 1: because one of the things that would happen if we 1753 01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:40,519 Speaker 1: didn't was we wouldn't have preferential treatment for a trade 1754 01:44:40,600 --> 01:44:44,599 Speaker 1: deal with the United States. And to their credit, actually 1755 01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:48,360 Speaker 1: it wasn't just Donald Trump. Throughout the twenty fifteen sixteen 1756 01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:53,160 Speaker 1: primaries and the campaigns over here in the US, I 1757 01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:57,840 Speaker 1: think Jeb Bush, Ted Cruz, Donald Trump and some other 1758 01:44:57,880 --> 01:45:00,280 Speaker 1: the other Republican candidate said well, well, well that's not right. 1759 01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:02,679 Speaker 1: You know, we share a bond with the United Kingdom 1760 01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:06,160 Speaker 1: and we want to continue being friends and allies and 1761 01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:08,160 Speaker 1: so on and so forth. And they came out and said, 1762 01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:12,320 Speaker 1: you know, Obama's pontifications on this are not relevant. He 1763 01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:16,200 Speaker 1: will not be president in at a time when that 1764 01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:19,519 Speaker 1: will be a thing that needs negotiating. So that's just 1765 01:45:19,640 --> 01:45:24,120 Speaker 1: another reason I am very happy that we don't have 1766 01:45:25,240 --> 01:45:28,200 Speaker 1: a Democrat in the White House at the moment because 1767 01:45:28,240 --> 01:45:31,679 Speaker 1: I think that would have been quite quite bad for Brexit. 1768 01:45:31,800 --> 01:45:35,200 Speaker 1: And you know the Brexit spirit were the original Brexit 1769 01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:39,320 Speaker 1: was Ben, it was in seventeen seventy six. Well, you 1770 01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:42,560 Speaker 1: could argue that there was one before that when we 1771 01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:45,559 Speaker 1: left the Catholic Church and formed the Church of England. 1772 01:45:45,640 --> 01:45:48,479 Speaker 1: But nonetheless, I think the sad thing is, yeah, we 1773 01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:51,400 Speaker 1: don't like that we in the United are not taking 1774 01:45:51,439 --> 01:45:57,000 Speaker 1: advantage of the friendship that Donald Trump has offered us. Yeah, 1775 01:45:57,520 --> 01:45:59,360 Speaker 1: I think we've given him the from from a from 1776 01:45:59,400 --> 01:46:01,960 Speaker 1: a UK government point of view, we've really given him 1777 01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:04,559 Speaker 1: the cold shoulder. Ben, that's the music, so we've got 1778 01:46:04,640 --> 01:46:07,280 Speaker 1: to leave it there, unfortunately. But that's Ben Harris Quinney, 1779 01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:10,320 Speaker 1: the chairman of the Bow Group. You can find them 1780 01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:14,000 Speaker 1: at Bow Group Bowgroup dot org. And that's it. That's 1781 01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:16,000 Speaker 1: the show. I've been Raheem gasam filling in here for 1782 01:46:16,040 --> 01:46:18,000 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton, Holland Hill. We'll be here tomorrow if you 1783 01:46:18,040 --> 01:46:20,439 Speaker 1: want to follow me, find me on Twitter, Facebook, YouTube 1784 01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:24,400 Speaker 1: at Raheem Ghassam. This has been the Buck Sexton Show 1785 01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:26,320 Speaker 1: Live from the Freedom Heart. I hope I get to 1786 01:46:26,320 --> 01:46:27,200 Speaker 1: speak to you again soon