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Speaker 1: Michael Varry Show is.

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Speaker 2: On the air.

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Speaker 1: I'm in a high screen bassou don't do here good.

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Speaker 1: I hear perfectly.

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Speaker 2: The fact that you are a sheriff is not germane

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Speaker 3: God damn, German's got nothing to.

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Speaker 2: Do with it.

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Speaker 4: Why I doc, are you telling me you built a

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Speaker 4: time machine? Kind of a doloreate the.

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Speaker 1: Way I see it.

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Speaker 2: If you're gonna build a time machine into a car,

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Speaker 2: why not do it some style.

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Speaker 1: He's an malma away in a new cattle like I

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Speaker 1: had a fine bots and Gunner had three mo in

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Speaker 1: the fat. What a piece of jug. She may not

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Speaker 1: look like much, but she's gotta weark cows.

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Speaker 2: Kid.

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Speaker 1: I've made a lot of special modifications myself.

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Speaker 4: You knee when.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we bad? You knee? And why, dear mother, I

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Speaker 1: was speeding. I was driving like a maniac. You can

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Speaker 1: all be grateful to this man for stopping us. Sir,

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Speaker 1: I'm going back to get the rest of the carcass

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Speaker 1: off the road. Peak Officer.

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Speaker 2: Long. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to say this delicately, but I

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Speaker 1: have heard from several frequent black callers who are. Oh

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure how I would describe their reaction, but

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Speaker 1: Parliament funkadel Like one of them. One of the point.

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Speaker 1: You can say, I don't listen to music, and you

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Speaker 1: don't have to know Hall and Oates, But who doesn't

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Speaker 1: know Parliament Funkadelic, who's black of a certain age?

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Speaker 2: And I said, well, yes, I knew the music. I

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Speaker 2: I am of the artist names.

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Speaker 1: Okay. I used to like that particular sound and used

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Speaker 1: to think I'd like to hear that sound right now.

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Speaker 1: How would you go about finding it?

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Speaker 2: I never looked for it, just whatever came up at

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Speaker 2: but I couldn't tell you exactly what they you know,

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Speaker 2: I knew it was a white group. Elton John you

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Speaker 2: know Island Girl that that stands out as a name

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Speaker 1: Okay, are there any black any black artists in this group?

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Speaker 2: In which group?

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Speaker 1: And the people the music that you like?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, yeah, I liked the Uhlaniel Ritchie, Stevie Wonder,

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Speaker 1: No, I was talking about black artists. Oh yeah, you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, you know, I liked a lot

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Speaker 1: Did you grow up in Houston.

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Speaker 1: Oh? We must have talked about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we did. You said, thank you somebody grandfather, your grandfather? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: School seventy seven?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I had about twenty seven different jobs, but the

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Speaker 1: Oh were you the mail man from Orange Dad's we Oh?

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Speaker 2: Now I remember, Oh you did tell me the same

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Speaker 1: And what do you do now?

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Speaker 1: Are you single?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah? Single and been looking just you know, once

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Speaker 1: For when you have you been married before?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Stay married twelve and a half years?

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Speaker 1: Just one time?

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Speaker 1: Well, I have an idea. Yeah, And so what happened there?

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Speaker 1: They connect on a very deep level with you, an emotional,

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Speaker 1: And unless you can identify that, you think, well, why

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Speaker 1: We're arguing because that person has unrequited anguish. Most underrated

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Speaker 1: of my Diddy in the black drum he caught this

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Speaker 1: aj Babuleuski and his dad's name is Randy Beard? Randy Jbeard. Humh,

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Speaker 1: Come on, then there's a picture. See what This is?

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Speaker 1: A big fish. Old Randy is struggling to hold his

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Speaker 1: He's got quite a ten. I bet he's doing a

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Speaker 1: His feet are so dark. This dude is doing so

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Speaker 1: I cannot read what his cap says. He's got a

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Speaker 1: His camo was something written on it. He probably bought

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Speaker 1: before the election, and he said here was his review

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Speaker 1: to vote for Kamala, and he was sickened by it

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Speaker 1: and he couldn't understand it. You already had Vaughn on

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Speaker 1: You just sat back and let it unfold. It was glorious.

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Speaker 1: I mean that sounded like a good I remember it now,

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you very much. What is your last name?

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Speaker 1: whole lot better. Mister robs you. That's the Michael Arry shows.

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Speaker 1: It's not about Stevie Rayvon, it's about them. I'm very texting,

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Speaker 1: back then. You can still eat it. It'll still have

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Speaker 1: that same gelatinous creamy whatever that it was back then.

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Speaker 1: But no, we're not really sad Twinkies is going away.

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Speaker 1: We have a memory of Twinkies at a point in time,

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Speaker 1: and that moment is locked in, but that moment is

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Speaker 1: no longer relevant. That's my point is that. Okay, well, yeah, okay, Kathy,

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Speaker 1: you're up. Go ahead, Kathy, let me do, let me do.

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Speaker 1: Don't you mess it up? And then do I double

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Speaker 1: take it to get it last morning. Okay, all right,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, Kathy, good morning.

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Speaker 4: I just wanted to add and kind of tie in

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Speaker 4: to your show a little bit this morning. I moved

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Speaker 4: to Houston in nineteen eighty four and found that I

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Speaker 4: really loved the diversification in the different communities and different cultures.

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Speaker 4: H I was always treated with the greatest, greatest respect.

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Speaker 4: I work with the public, and I think it's just great.

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Speaker 1: That's fantastic.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it's uh it's not only the diversification, it's the

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Speaker 4: you know, everybody gets along. And I still see that today.

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Speaker 1: And where did you move from?

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Speaker 4: I moved from Iowa. I moved from Sioux City, Iowa.

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Speaker 4: All time popcorn, soup, bee, honey, uh alps, made Levi Strauss,

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Speaker 4: my dad works for them.

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Speaker 1: But people there, did you?

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Speaker 4: And des Moines, the capital of Iowa, had a lot

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Speaker 4: of uh black people?

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Speaker 1: And how many's a lot? Would you say it was

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Speaker 1: not enough?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I couldn't.

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Speaker 4: I can't state that. I'm sorry. I couldn't speak educatedly

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Speaker 4: of that, but I will.

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Speaker 1: If you were creating the perfect city when Cherokee Indians, okay,

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Speaker 1: would you say more or or less of them would

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Speaker 1: have been a good mix.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, could you repeat that?

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Speaker 1: So if you I never, I never. I've only been

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Speaker 1: to Des Moines one time and that was for the

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen presidential election. So I can't speak to this issue.

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Speaker 1: But if you were saying, uh, if a city was

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Speaker 1: going to have a certain number of black people, would

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Speaker 1: you say it could stand to have more or fewer.

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Speaker 4: Compared to Houston?

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Speaker 1: No, No, for ideal for to be an ideal city to.

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Speaker 4: Be perfect, I'd say fewer.

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Speaker 1: Fewer, okay, m hmm okay. And so when you moved to.

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Speaker 4: Iowa, the state has great programs no matter what nationality

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Speaker 4: you are, and they're very good of taking care of

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Speaker 4: their people as they are, you know. And a lot

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Speaker 4: of Houston, you know, in Texas.

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Speaker 1: So why did you move to Texas? What what brought

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Speaker 1: you for a job?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I graduated, graduated from two years of college and

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Speaker 4: there just wasn't the job. And met a guy in

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Speaker 4: college and he had moved here and said how wonderful

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Speaker 4: it was and that I could find a job right away,

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Speaker 4: which I.

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Speaker 1: Did, and that was in eighty four.

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Speaker 4: You said, yes, nineteen eighty four.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's interesting because that was not Houston Boom.

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Speaker 1: There was a. In the early eighties, there was a

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Speaker 1: motto stay alive to l eighty five, and because of

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Speaker 1: the oil bust, a lot of people were suffering. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: what business are you in?

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Speaker 4: I'm a I actually took a lot of tech classes

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Speaker 4: and so forth and became an architectural graphics CAD designer.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, you know, I've always I've always found that fascinating, Kathy.

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Speaker 1: I don't have any any aptitude for such things, but

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Speaker 1: I've always found architecture to be fascinating as a viewer,

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Speaker 1: so as a consumer. But there's a lot of things

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Speaker 1: in life that I liked the end product, and I'm

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Speaker 1: fascinated by how you get to the end product. I

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Speaker 1: just don't have any aptitude on the you know, automobiles

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Speaker 1: for instance, architecture, food. I just don't have an interest in.

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Speaker 4: The commercial and residential buildings.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, I think it's you did the.

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Speaker 4: Floor plans, and they estimating for all the floor.

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Speaker 1: Plans a pretty cutting edge. Like there probably weren't a

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Speaker 1: lot of women. Maybe you may not have been the

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Speaker 1: only one, but I bet there weren't many.

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Speaker 4: Well. I started out in interior design, okay.

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Speaker 1: And then you got into the cad draw I.

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Speaker 4: Actually worked in the Jewish community and it was wonderful

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Speaker 4: because in the Jewish community there is a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh