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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 2: I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 2: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and

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Speaker 2: what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling railvalry. No,

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Speaker 2: no sibling ra You don't do that with your mouth revelry.

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Speaker 2: That's good. Oliver relis Hudson here to talk to you

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Speaker 2: about life, love and anything else in between. You know

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Speaker 2: I should do I should do a Collins show, you know,

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Speaker 2: like I should do like a like a new kind

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Speaker 2: of a love line. That would be fun. That would

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Speaker 2: be fun. That was a great show. By the way,

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Speaker 2: mikey Corolla and Mike Mike actually is married to Bianca,

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Speaker 2: who I worked with on Rules of Engagement. Mike is

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Speaker 2: the man. They live in Texas right now. Anyway, I

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Speaker 2: don't know about me short intro because I've got Nat

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Speaker 2: and Alex Wolf in the waiting room. They are brothers.

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Speaker 2: They are a pop rock duo from New York City.

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Speaker 2: They're actors, their siblings, you know, they're musicians. They probably

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Speaker 2: have had fights. You know, I've I was you know,

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Speaker 2: Chris Robinson was my brother in law for a minute,

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Speaker 2: and you know, I know what that's like when you're

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Speaker 2: famous musicians and you gotta you gotta work together all

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Speaker 2: the time, there's got to be some tension that happens there.

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe not, maybe not. Then Alex Alex was an hereditary. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that is one of my favorite horror films, my kid's

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Speaker 2: favorite horror films. They should not probably have ever watched it,

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Speaker 2: but they did. Anyway, let's uh, let's bring them in.

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Speaker 2: We can get into everything.

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Speaker 1: Hey, what's up man?

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Speaker 2: Thank thank you for coming on. Boys. Where are you guys?

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Speaker 2: You in la in Maretts House.

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Speaker 1: We're in New York City and we just got in

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Speaker 1: about like forty minutes ago from the bus.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, you're opening for Billy Right, Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: been amazing. Okay, there's so many things to talk about,

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Speaker 2: but let's let's start there. I mean, how give me

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Speaker 2: the I want to know how that even happened, you know,

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Speaker 2: because that's pretty that's pretty rad. I mean, how did

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Speaker 2: that even come to I'm.

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Speaker 1: Trying to figure out how it happened? Still, I went, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I went to this Academy Museum gala and I had

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Speaker 1: never met her before, but I knew she. I was

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Speaker 1: obviously huge fan of hers. But also knew we both

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Speaker 1: have tourettes, and so does my dad. And I knew

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Speaker 1: from like there was this interview with her on David

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Speaker 1: Letterman where she was ticking and she said and he

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Speaker 1: was like, what is that? And she said, oh, sorry,

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Speaker 1: that's my duretts and and so I ran into it

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Speaker 1: this thing and I was like, you have dreads and

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Speaker 1: she's like, you have dreads and she had heard that

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Speaker 1: I had tread or something. And then we end the

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Speaker 1: bonding on that. And then Alex me and her when

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Speaker 1: we all met, we all saw each other again at

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Speaker 1: some party and we ended up getting Alex I got

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Speaker 1: a lot of trouble. We got played take. Somebody took

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Speaker 1: a picture of us because they thought that Alex looked

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Speaker 1: like this other guy that was still keep this.

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Speaker 2: On, yo yo yo yo, yo.

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Speaker 1: Yo yo. Anyway, we became great friends and heying and friends,

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Speaker 1: and it was all great and no one got in

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Speaker 1: any trouble.

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Speaker 2: Okay, hey, everybody, we were falsely accused.

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Speaker 1: That's the truth. We were falsely accused of being people

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Speaker 1: that were standing on couches taking pictures.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't O got it, got early hair, got it.

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Speaker 2: And then she and they just connected.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we all connected. Then we all went and I

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Speaker 1: had it. We all jammed together and played music and

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Speaker 1: and Philly was like, I haven't ever jammed with people.

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Speaker 1: I haven't felt excited on music and a long time.

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Speaker 1: And we were like, neither have we And we just

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Speaker 1: and we all went to Coachella and she asked us

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Speaker 1: to go on tour and we were like fuck, yeah,

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Speaker 1: of course and wow agree and then she just and

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Speaker 1: she also produced one of our songs for a new

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Speaker 1: album and stuff like that. Yeah, is the best.

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Speaker 2: So how long you guys been in a band together

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Speaker 2: since the Woman? Since forever? I mean it's been I

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Speaker 2: mean because you were Nickelodeon, right.

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Speaker 3: We were in a band way before Nickelodeon. Even though

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Speaker 3: we were really young. We were eight or the movie

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Speaker 3: was when I was six and that was nine. We'd

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Speaker 3: already been playing together for like since I was a baby.

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Speaker 3: That's that's like my first memories is playing music.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, let's let's let's go Let's go back for

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Speaker 2: a second, all right, because you were then before Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: let's go to like past life stuff, past life stuff.

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Speaker 2: Who do you think you were in the past life?

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Speaker 2: It's kind of a good question. Actually, no, but you

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Speaker 2: grew you guys? Were you guys grew up? First of all,

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Speaker 2: where did you grow up?

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Speaker 1: You grew up in New York City, you did? And

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Speaker 1: where did you guys grow up? You guys La?

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Speaker 2: You grew up in La. Yeah, but dude, maybe we'll

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Speaker 2: come see you, because my whole family is going to

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Speaker 2: be there. Kate's there, my mom's there. I mean, like

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Speaker 2: everyone is in fun. Yeah, he's the best, She is

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Speaker 2: the best. So was show business? Was music? Was this

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Speaker 2: something that was just from the get How did your

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Speaker 2: parents sort of navigate this, you know, growing up kind

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Speaker 2: of in it? My sister wanted to do movies out

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Speaker 2: the womb. My mom was like, no, this is a

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Speaker 2: fucked up business. You're gonna wait, you're gonna be You're

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Speaker 2: gonna graduate high school. Then you can do whatever the

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Speaker 1: Said? You want love from us? Right, So you got

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Speaker 1: to the music. You got to get into movies or

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Speaker 1: else you get My dad's a jazz musician, my mom

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Speaker 1: is an actress and a writer and stuff. So they

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Speaker 1: were you know, they were always.

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Speaker 2: Really really thirty something, right, Yeah, they.

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Speaker 1: Were really wary of the business too, and they were like,

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Speaker 1: But so they say, they would say that stuff, but

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Speaker 1: then we'd get to go see my dad play like Smalls,

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Speaker 1: and it always looked like the most exciting, amazing thing

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Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. S emulation And it's like what else, what

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Speaker 1: Mister Rogers says, the thing where attitudes are caught, they're

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Speaker 1: not taught taught the attitude of that, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: There's something you know that's just I mean, I noticed

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Speaker 1: wish I would have kept up with the piano lessons.

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Speaker 1: I wish I would have kept up with the dance

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Speaker 1: or with the things. Yeah, because everybody as a kid

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Speaker 2: Did your parents ever push you to keep going when

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Speaker 2: maybe they saw you were falling out of favor because

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Speaker 2: they understood the talent that you had, much like an

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Speaker 3: Remember when I was I remember going it really drying

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Speaker 3: up acting stuff right after Naked Brother's Band. It was like,

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Speaker 3: My mom was like, well you could do you want

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Speaker 3: then you know, things change and you you get something

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's probably a relief on some level to

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Speaker 1: much infection all the time. Totally. Oh my god. We

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Speaker 1: Then we had like a choir that was supposed to

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Speaker 1: it was like fifteen twenty thousand. Alex turns and me,

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Speaker 2: Bro Right, I mean that shit is great, though it's humbling,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, even though you've been through,

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Speaker 3: I don't know that I want to be humbled at

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Speaker 2: It was you gotta I guess you just got to

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Speaker 2: push through it. The first of all, how did you

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Speaker 2: call it shockingly easy?

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Speaker 1: When Buddy's gonna come, you say, hey, can we just

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Speaker 1: fucking lions with? What are you going? The choir?

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Speaker 3: I don't know how the choir got situated, but they

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Speaker 3: obviously didn't hear about the show.

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Speaker 2: So how is your music like evolved?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 2: I mean, and are you have you reached that point?

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Speaker 2: Not a forever evolution, but have you found sort of

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like I've ever found my groove.

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Speaker 3: I just we just kind of keep I feel like

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Speaker 3: we keep trying to rework whatever it is that we're doing.

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Speaker 3: It's always like, okay, work for a second, but now

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Speaker 2: Sounds like the sounds like the jerky Boys. Are you

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Speaker 2: I still love the phony phone call though. Stern, Howard

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Speaker 2: Still so cool. Yeah, so what about the what about

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Speaker 1: say that those two things are probably my favorite.

439
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, are you guys competitive? I think with

440
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:51,880
Speaker 2: each other.

441
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 1: I think we've always I mean, I feel like I'm

442
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 1: Alex's biggest fan.

443
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 3: Like when it comes to you, I don't think we're competitive

444
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 3: about our careers. We're probably combetitive about We get so

445
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 3: competitive about like games.

446
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 1: Sports, ping pong, basketball, like when we were kids.

447
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,879
Speaker 3: Before the concert the other night, there's ping pong and I'm,

448
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 3: you know, by far the superior ping pong player, and

449
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 3: that goes, he's not by far the superior.

450
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,919
Speaker 1: He is out just a scoch, just a scoch, And

451
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 1: we used to be I used, yeah, I haven't played

452
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 1: in year. See this pisses me off.

453
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 3: But before the gig, we're about to play a game,

454
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 3: and that goes, I don't want to lose before the show.

455
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that healthy. That's smart dude. You

456
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,239
Speaker 2: know how it might affect you. Yeah, I don't know.

457
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,880
Speaker 1: I feel like it gets put into that. I feel

458
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:52,360
Speaker 1: like we get Alex likes to like steal all my clothes.

459
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,360
Speaker 1: That ship really pisses me off. It ends up being

460
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 1: like a lot of little kid stuff that really.

461
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 2: Do you guys have like similar aisle? Here's the thing?

462
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 2: How old? First of how old are you guys?

463
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,120
Speaker 1: I'm twenty nine, twenty six.

464
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:13,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, and on stage, do you have a do you

465
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 2: have a style or you I mean, do you have

466
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 2: a a you know obviously are you wearing this? Or

467
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 2: do you dress up and do a whole fucking you

468
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like Persona dressed up. My wife

469
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 2: modeled for lb elb Bro. This is Vinta jel Lban.

470
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 2: That is Vinta Jellbean. Actually, uh, we got.

471
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: This sky Spencer who did who styled Billy too stylis

472
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 1: for this tour? And you see me?

473
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I got you, I

474
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 2: got you.

475
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 1: This is the best, by far, the best clothes we've had. Also,

476
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 1: because we're not arguing right before the show, like well,

477
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: if you're gonna wear Time, I'm gonna wear Time, I'm

478
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: gonna wear Time, you're gonna wear Time. Who's gonna wear sunglasses?

479
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 1: Might wear this time? Spencer planted out for us, so

480
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: like we got all the outfits we wanted, but now

481
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 1: he put pictures of out, pictures of means like tonight

482
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: were this, tomorrow, we're this. We still have like sucked

483
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 1: it up a couple of times.

484
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, but that's you know, you're gaining some status there.

485
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 2: I've got the stop. You've got some stylists who's saying, no,

486
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 2: here's your fucking wardrobe. Yeah, and just shut up exactly.

487
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 2: So Alex got to talk about fucking Hereditary just really

488
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 2: quickly because Ari's like one of my favorite directors. It's

489
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 2: my kids, no, no, no, no, but I just I mean,

490
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 2: I've been obsessed with that dude forever and even watching

491
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,679
Speaker 2: it shorts back in the day. So it's it's just

492
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 2: ridiculous stuff, just so innovative, and his brain is, you know,

493
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 2: on another planet. But you know, I parent differently. You know,

494
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 2: most most parents would not show their children Hereditary, but

495
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 2: you know when my how long did a Hereditary even

496
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 2: come out? Four years ago? Five years ago?

497
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, maybe right.

498
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 2: So my seventeen year old at the time was thirteen,

499
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 2: and then I had a ten and then I had

500
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 2: like a fucking six year old all watching Hereditary.

501
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: You should sit six year old Hereditary.

502
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's a piece of art. It's just art

503
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 2: that needs to be seen. They they it's still their

504
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 2: favorite movie. It's it's just I mean, real quickly, I

505
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 2: wanted to get to the whole fucking thing. But the experience,

506
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 2: you know, Ari, what was the audition part of that? Like,

507
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 2: how did it all go down.

508
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: Well.

509
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 3: Ari really is the best, and we we were inseparable

510
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 3: in that movie, like best would hangout after all the time,

511
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 3: and would hang out before we went to set and

512
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 3: would just be together all the time. The audition process

513
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 3: was I was doing a play and I went and

514
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 3: did an audition, and I was doing all the fine

515
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 3: books and I went in before a show, I think,

516
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 3: and I.

517
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 1: Remember there's like this big breakdown scene. I had a

518
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 1: big breakdown and he was so nice and was really.

519
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 3: Cool and he called me back and I was like, fuck,

520
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 3: like I don't know how I'm going to do that again,

521
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 3: like break and I kind of thought, like, god, I

522
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 3: can't believe I could.

523
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: Go back and do it. And this this big sobbing scene.

524
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: It came back and I was ready to do it,

525
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,360
Speaker 1: and he goes, hey, I already saw that the last time,

526
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: so you don't have to do that. Can we just

527
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: focus on? And I was like I love it. Oh God.

528
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 3: We just worked on the first two scenes and we

529
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 3: got along so well.

530
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: And I love the way he directed, and he's just

531
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 1: got the perfect combination.

532
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 2: It was.

533
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,479
Speaker 3: He was very precise and like it's blocking and everything,

534
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 3: and it was it's very camera centric, but he's also

535
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 3: so emotionally intuitive and sensitive and like really took care

536
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 3: of me during that movie. It was just like fucking

537
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 3: dream It would also just come to my hotel room

538
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 3: and check on me and love that guy.

539
00:26:48,000 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 2: Ah. When you read the script, did you understand the ending?

540
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: To my dad, I said, we're going to be using

541
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: this room. We're in the middle of a hot that's.

542
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 2: All right, wearing my jacket. What's up to there? He is,

543
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 2: he's got he's got a nice stroll. He's got a swag.

544
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 1: Nobody, Michael Wolf. This is Oliver, Oliver.

545
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: How are you man? How you doing?

546
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: Good man? All right, I'll let you guys in a

547
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: wild man.

548
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 2: Hold on, dad? How was it raising these boys? Was

549
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 2: it easy? Was it difficult? You know? It was the

550
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 2: worst time in my Yeah, he means it. I'm sure

551
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 2: who was it was awesome? It was who was easier,

552
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 2: Who was easier to raise? Who was more behaving?

553
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: They each had their their own specific quirks and differences.

554
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 1: They were both a groove. Yea, I looked out man

555
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: because of my other guys. I got rid of him.

556
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 1: I had before I had two other kids. I just

557
00:27:58,960 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: dumped them.

558
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 2: No, hey, look I know, I know that.

559
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: You don't know that, but you can do that.

560
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 2: No, no, I get it. There's a chance I was

561
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 2: dumped a while.

562
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: Back and he dropped them off with the fire stage.

563
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 2: Like Dad, we're too old for the fire station. They're like,

564
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 2: I don't care.

565
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 3: To do it.

566
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: I'm really lucky. These guys are the best songs.

567
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 3: You could just saying that because it's the first time

568
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 3: Sinking Oliver has the podcast.

569
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 1: It's like about siblings. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, my sister

570
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: would be on, but she's in New York. All right, guys,

571
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 1: Well I'll let you get all right with my siblings.

572
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: Believe me.

573
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 2: That's so great.

574
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: Man.

575
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 2: I gotta say, look, Kurt raised me, you know, because

576
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 2: my dad bailed when I was when I was a kid.

577
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 2: We're a little bit of a better relationship now, but

578
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 2: your bio that's never the same, you know what I mean?

579
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 2: And and I have an incredible relationship with Kurt. I

580
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 2: mean he I'm the man that I am today because

581
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 2: of Because of him? Is why?

582
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: Is why your brother too?

583
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 2: Why it's my yeah? Why it's my half brother? So

584
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: why my mom? Why? Man?

585
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: He's awesome?

586
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

587
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: How do you know why I worked with Andrew Garfield

588
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: a couple of times, and I yeahs of my best

589
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: friends and the two. Yeah, I'm really close on this.

590
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and under the Banner.

591
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I just spend some time with why. And

592
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: also he's just such a good actor.

593
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: Man, it's crazy Black Spider and yeah, he's great. He's

594
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 2: actually in Australia, uh right now doing Godzilla.

595
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: Did he just do? I think? Wait, god with Ky

596
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: Clemons is in there, right and he did? No, I

597
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: don't even know Marvel, the Marvel.

598
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 2: He did the Marvel. He did the movie with Florence

599
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 2: Pew and then I guess they did the movie part

600
00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: of that and then Thunderbolts. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

601
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 2: It's funny because he's such a you know, he was

602
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,479
Speaker 2: such like an artur in a way, you know what

603
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 2: I mean, Like he would do these really cool independent

604
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 2: movies and you know, and then all of a sudden

605
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: he's in like Godzilla for Apple and like Marvel.

606
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: He's a director. He's an actor.

607
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: No, he's an actor, but oh yeah, great artor. And

608
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 2: then his wife is it's Meredith Hagner. She's amazing. Dude.

609
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: My dad does not seem to understand.

610
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

611
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: I was talking about my latest album that came out

612
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: on August second.

613
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 2: That's all yeah, what is it? Promoted memoirs called Memoir

614
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: Memoir August second? Where can we Where can we find it?

615
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 2: Like Spotify, Apple Music all.

616
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: That, Yeah, you can find it everywhere. My dad, he's

617
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: all such big interview graduates.

618
00:30:53,480 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 2: I told him, if, dude, I love it, it's hysteric.

619
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: Surprised me. Oh my god, he's wearing all my clothes.

620
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: Those are all my clothes. My whole family takes my

621
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: clotheses not. I don't even have good fashion sense.

622
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: Really, it's just whose house are you? Are you? Whose house?

623
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: Really? It's our but we stopped here. I live in

624
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: la now and an apartment, apartment, but we stopped here.

625
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, so wait do you guys both live in l A.

626
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: Alex's girlfriend lives in l A. So he's there. We're

627
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: back and forth. I have a place. I got a

628
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: place in the beach with ad Canyon and like a

629
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: year ago, and it's been awesome.

630
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know, I kind of want to get

631
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 2: the hell out of l A. You know, I love

632
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 2: the fish and I'm a big outdoors guy. I've got

633
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 2: a boat and.

634
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: You're about your dad that like you're you're you were

635
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: raised by Kurp, but your biology.

636
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 2: That wasn't around when you were no, so yeah, he he.

637
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: The divorce was five and then we it was good

638
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 2: for a few years and then just kind of went

639
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 2: to hell. And then and I was doing this TV

640
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 2: show in New Orleans and it was Father's Day and

641
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 2: there's a great picture of myself and my dad and

642
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 2: Kate during better times, arms around each other, all smiling,

643
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 2: and I posted it on Instagram and I said, Happy

644
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: abandonment Day. Yeah I was. I was just yeah, I

645
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: mean I was. It was just sort of my dark yeah,

646
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: like you know, cutting sense of humor. But everyone the

647
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: press picked it up five six years ago. Maybe man

648
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 2: press picked it up. It blew up into a whole thing.

649
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: I got his number and I wrote him this long,

650
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: long text, you know about I apologizing like I'm never

651
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,719
Speaker 2: trying to hurt your feelings. You know, I was just

652
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: being stupid. I was being funny. But you know, you

653
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: don't have you you don't really have legs to stand

654
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: on here, you know, make a joke, right, long, long

655
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: story all right, long story short. It was the catalyst

656
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 2: to us getting back together and actually having a relationship

657
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 2: because he came to La said, let's link up. I

658
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 2: hadn't seen him in twelve, thirteen, fourteen years, and you know,

659
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 2: we hung out. You should do it again, I dude,

660
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 2: I have thought about this that. Yes, I have thought

661
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 2: about this. I thought about doing it again all time. Yes,

662
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 2: you know, the better. The thing is, he would probably

663
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: take it much better, now you know what I mean.

664
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, anyway, so we we linked up, We talked,

665
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: I put him on the witness stands grilling and we

666
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: smoked a thousand cigarettes outside and then we you know,

667
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: we had another lunch and you know, kind of healed

668
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 2: things at the same time. We text a lot. You know,

669
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 2: we keep in touch, but I don't know, there's still

670
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 2: it's still hard to actually get together, even though he

671
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 2: lives fucking fifteen minutes away from me in Malibu.

672
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Speaker 1: You know, we have like a moment in the show

673
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: where we talk about it in the concept. But our

674
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: dad got cancer in like twenty fourteen, and you know,

675
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: we thought that he was going to die, and my

676
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: mom was calling us being like, oh, your dad has

677
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: a fifty percent chance of making it through the It

678
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: was like a really horrible couple of years where Jesus

679
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: weirdly through that, you know, we had all had like

680
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: some family issues and stuff, and then weirdly through that

681
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: we all got close again. Not that yeah, but the

682
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: four of us.

683
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean sometimes it takes that. You just

684
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 2: never know.

685
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's cancer. Sometimes it's a post on Instagram.

686
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 2: It's right right either way.

687
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sometimes it's doing it again and seeing what the respect.

688
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but but that nineteen and however old,

689
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,959
Speaker 2: that's fucking gnarly to have to go through something like that.

690
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: Horrible. It was horrible, but you know, yeah, it was

691
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: like one of those things where you know, we were like, you.

692
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 2: Know, and do you have to come to terms with it?

693
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 2: And do you have to come to grips with this?

694
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 3: Like yeah, we had we'd like to say goodbye, just

695
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 3: because I had a girlfriend whose dad got diagnosed with

696
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 3: a brain tumor, was with her for a year and

697
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 3: then dad died. And then almost a couple of weeks later,

698
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 3: my dad got diagnosed with cancer. And I remember being like,

699
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 3: it's gonna be fine, it's nothing like that, and then.

700
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: It was horrible. I see you, it was like, but

701
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: then it seemed like the only path his cancer was

702
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: so odd and unique that one of these doctors that

703
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: Sloan Kettering took a real doctor Downder. Yeah, it took

704
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: an interest in him and gave him this special pill

705
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: because he couldn't do chemos it would have killed. Gave

706
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: him a special pill called Mechanists. And he was the

707
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: third person in the world that it ever worked on.

708
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: And I like studies first cancer and the first for

709
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: this particular cancer.

710
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 3: And now they've cured this cancer a bunch of different

711
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 3: times now with mechanists.

712
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: Using my dad.

713
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 2: Wow.

714
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: You know, so it's been pretty fucking amazing. He's made

715
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: a full recovery. You know where he's like, he plays gigs,

716
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: obviously he has an album coming out and he comes Yeah,

717
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: you know, interrupts our podcast interview.

718
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm the post tonight A happy Mechanist day.

719
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 2: Real quick, and I'm gonna let you boys go. But this

720
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 2: is interesting to me. So why do you think something

721
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: like that. I mean, obviously, tragedy can bring family together,

722
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 2: there's no doubt. But what do you think it was?

723
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 2: It was just the fragility of life, you know what

724
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 2: I mean? Is that what it is sort of saying,

725
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 2: you know what, there's not much time we all have left,

726
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: This whole fucking planet's going to be a big ball

727
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: of fire at some point.

728
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 3: All the families, you just you just kind of get, okay, well,

729
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 3: I do this thing, and I wake up and I

730
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 3: go and do this, and we go with this thing.

731
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 3: And then when mortality hits you realize all that other

732
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 3: shit is very superficial in comparison to what's really going on.

733
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 3: I think families you're not dealing with that are dealing

734
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 3: with a lot of other stresses, like so many surface stresses,

735
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 3: and I think those just aren't as present anymore. I

736
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 3: also just think before that, like with everybody you think

737
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 3: you're you kind of see your parents as being superheroes,

738
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 3: and then when when seeing my dad get sick, you

739
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 3: realize that they aren't, and in that way you can

740
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 3: accept their other faults, you know. And so that made

741
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 3: it easier for me to to you know, because if

742
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 3: you see your parents superheroes and then they keep letting

743
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 3: you down, you know, you get angrier and angrier at them,

744
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 3: and then you have to rebel.

745
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: But and then at a certain point, yeah, they get

746
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: sick and you realize, like, oh, they're just human like

747
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: everybody else. But also I think he he saw the

748
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: the you know, he said that after he got sick,

749
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: he realized family was the most important thing. So I

750
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: think he became much, you know, much better dead. I

751
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: think I became a better son, Alex became a better son,

752
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: He became a better dad. And and then you know,

753
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: through that, I don't know, everybody's relationship just got stronger.

754
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: We all made a movie together right after he started

755
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: to get better, called tells Us we Can Out Us

756
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: and I were in it. My mom my dad did

757
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: the music, and I was like, oh wow, we're all

758
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 1: kind of like closer than we've ever been.

759
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 2: You know, that's fun. How was that? My family is

760
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: always like we should do a movie together, and yeah,

761
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 2: it's you know, I don't know, there's too many of us.

762
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 2: I think it's too fucking crazy. But how was it?

763
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: Really awesome?

764
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 2: It was really fun.

765
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, the experience, Yeah, it was really special. It felt

766
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 1: like everybody we felt like we had to kind of

767
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: disband as a family and then come back together for

768
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: the reunion tour.

769
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, fun like black Rows and Away Yeahney Money, Yeah,

770
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 2: yeah you did it for the money.

771
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was it. That was That was that was

772
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: one for them.

773
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 2: That was, well, you guys, thank you uh for cruising

774
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: and doing this. So when are you do it? You

775
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,720
Speaker 2: got you got MSG in the New Jersey, New Jersey's first.

776
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: New Tomorrow, and then we got three ship then we

777
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: got Boston, Pittsburgh, and then we got three shows at MSG. Three.

778
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: When I was like nine years old, I went to

779
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: see Billy Joel and my dad and I was like,

780
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: I'd said my two biggest dreams in the whole world

781
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: or too. I want to play at MSG, and I

782
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: want to meet Polmkkarty. I met phone card, here you go,

783
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: and then now I.

784
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 2: Need to play. Dude. That is crazy. It's just crazy.

785
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 1: I can't believe it. And I want to lacrosse of

786
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: the Olympics.

787
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 2: So we're both, well, you're gonna you gotta work. You

788
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 2: gotta work harder, buddy, you gotta you gotta start, you

789
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 2: gotta start.

790
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: Trout called the Olympics. Hello Olympics.

791
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 2: The line I can't get.

792
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: I can't hear you, I can't get speaking to the receiver.

793
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: Are you on with my brother? Excuse me? Olympics?

794
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 3: I okay, this is a Denny's.

795
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: But then i'leg but do.

796
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 2: You know the number the Olympic breakfast. Is that what you.

797
00:39:54,719 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 3: Want if we're on the all.

798
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 2: Right, boys, Well let's uh, let's figure it out all

799
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: right later. Thank you guys so much for Yeah, that

800
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 2: was fun. All right boys, Yeah, cool guys, much cooler

801
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 2: than me.

802
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 1: You know.

803
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 2: It made me feel old, honestly, like an old man

804
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 2: just trying to like pick apart these young studs, these

805
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: young and incredibly talented brothers who you know are acting

806
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: and doing plays and opening for Eilish and playing an MSG,

807
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 2: you know, fucking twenty nine and twenty six or whatever.

808
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 2: I'm forty eight. I'm sitting in my son's room doing

809
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 2: a podcast by myself. Anyway, one day I will be

810
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 2: twenty six again. I don't know when that day is,

811
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 2: don't know how it's gonna happen. One day, the Hudson

812
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 2: Express will be twenty six. All right, I'm gonna leave

813
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: and try to do something creative to feel better about myself.

814
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: Peace,