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Speaker 2: Final hour in this Wednesday, it'll be busy. Dave Roberts,

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Speaker 2: little bit. Sunday Night, Pittsburgh has a big challenge. It's

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers leading the Steelers against Justin Herbert and the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: That's spicy. I like that matchup. That's easy to promote

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Speaker 2: when you put Justin Herbert there and you put Aaron

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Speaker 3: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: If you are watching on Peacock, thank you for downloading

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Speaker 2: the app and poll question for the final hour, the

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Speaker 2: program is going to be what seedon?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let me get you caught up here. I'm sort

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Speaker 4: of workshopping a Tom Brady dog cloning Polk questions. We

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Speaker 4: of course, however, let me get you caught up. If

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Speaker 4: you're a Jets fan today, sixty three percent are feeling

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Speaker 4: lost currently, which is the best state for football. Indiana's

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Speaker 4: got thirty percent of that vote. The field, however, has

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Speaker 4: seventy percent. Okay, and then this one Kyler Murray finishes

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Speaker 4: his career with the Cardinals, another NFL team, or in

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Speaker 4: baseball eighty seven percent right now, have another NFL team?

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Speaker 4: Baseball's getting eleven percent of that vote.

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, Paul, he's happy with that. Keith

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Speaker 2: and Charlotte. Hi, Keith, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 5: Hey?

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Speaker 6: Dan?

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Speaker 7: I've called you last couple of weeks about our last

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Speaker 7: couple of months about the Panthers, and I was trying

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Speaker 7: to get in on Friday to offer another pile of

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Speaker 7: the faith bet for them to beat the Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 7: Whether you believe it or not, it's all good. Timing

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Speaker 7: didn't work out, so I got another bet for you guys.

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Speaker 7: It's my birthday today and I'm hoping that someone will

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Speaker 7: take me up on there.

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Speaker 1: I need.

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Speaker 7: I want to see the content on the show for you, Dan.

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Speaker 7: I am going to take the Panthers to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 7: Their defense is playing great. Rice is serviceable for Rico

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Speaker 7: Donald's rolling. So who's got the who's got the field?

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Speaker 2: Anybody want a piece of Keith? In Charlotte, he's got

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Speaker 2: the Panthers making the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Marvin, happy birthday.

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Speaker 2: But no, no, they don't make the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: No, no, beg Oh believe? Oh you do believe? In Carolina?

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Speaker 2: Oh wow? Okay, they got a chance. Well, they got

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Speaker 2: a winning record. What have they got?

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Speaker 3: Five wins?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Five and win?

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Speaker 10: But they got some tough games down the stretch. You

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Speaker 10: get the Buccaneers twice, the Seahawks, the Rams, the Niners.

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Speaker 3: Well, once again, Keith is asking if anybody wants a

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Speaker 3: piece of it.

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Speaker 4: According to this website that I'm looking at, they have

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Speaker 4: about a fifty seven chance of making the playoffs. As

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Speaker 4: I think in he it looks like they have about

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Speaker 4: a fifty seven percent chance of making the playoffs. No, okay,

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Speaker 4: so's that bad?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't think you have any takers here, Keith.

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Speaker 2: I think people are kind of saying they kind of

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Speaker 2: think the Panthers are playoff worthy.

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Speaker 7: Ish, I guess I'll take that.

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Speaker 3: Dam Okay, well you're gonna have to. Nobody else is

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Speaker 3: going to take you up on that. It's a good story. Yuh,

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Speaker 2: I think you got everybody's attention when you go to

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Speaker 2: Green Bay and you beat green Bay. But that's I

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Speaker 2: think a lot of times what happens is we're like,

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Speaker 2: what's wrong with green Bay? They've had you know, you

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Speaker 2: lose to Carolina at home and you lose to the Browns.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I completely read that wrong. They have a

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Speaker 4: fifty seven percent chance to not make a playoffs. They

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Speaker 4: have an eleven percent chance of getting in as a

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Speaker 4: seven seed. The wild card seeds, they have about like

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Speaker 4: a somewhere between a four to let's see, a seven

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Speaker 2: Okay, so are you saying you're gonna take Keith up

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Speaker 2: on the bet?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 4: It's a unbelievably optimistic take bye bye key.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I'll jump in on it.

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Speaker 4: Since I messed up what I said before, now I

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Speaker 4: in on them. All right, So Keith Seaton will take

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Speaker 4: you up on the offer. I'm saying that they're not

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Speaker 4: going to win the bet. Loser gets in a cage

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Speaker 4: with a panther. Any takers now, is that like.

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Speaker 2: Rico Daldell that you get in the cage with him

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Speaker 4: Which would you rather least like to be attacked by?

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Speaker 3: Mark? In Saint Cloud, Minnesota. Hi, Mark, welcome back, And.

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Speaker 11: I got a couple of things for you. First of all,

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Speaker 11: so slow? It's like a nonchalant attitude with that team.

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Speaker 11: And I think it's from the coach on down. I mean,

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Speaker 11: you never see him get that playered up, and it

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Speaker 11: reflects in the quarterback. And I know people like calm

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Speaker 11: quarterbacks and cool under fire, but you can't be Joe

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Speaker 11: Cool all the time.

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Speaker 12: Plus, I have a stat.

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Speaker 11: Of the day for you if you're willing sure, all right,

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Speaker 11: just the moment, Dan, let me pull it up here.

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Speaker 11: And maybe this goes hand in hand with a state

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Speaker 11: that is not number one in the country for football

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Speaker 11: Wisconsin the schools that tell the most booze. The Badgers

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Speaker 11: lead the list with over three million in revenue. This

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Speaker 11: is public schools on least, maybe Northwestern sells more. Nebraska

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Speaker 11: is second, followed by Tennessee, LSU, and Minnesota. And that

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Speaker 11: list comes from Front Office Sports there's your stat of

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Speaker 11: the day.

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Speaker 3: All right, thank you, Mark.

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Speaker 4: Woot of the Day, Stall of to day out today,

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Speaker 4: stand out today. This is the Style.

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Speaker 2: by Benini America, the official trading cards of the Dan

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Speaker 2: Patrick Show. Well, look who's back, Dodger manager Dave Roberts.

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Speaker 2: Another World Series title. Didn't need to make a proclamation

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Speaker 2: in spring training, didn't have to do any of that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Just an easy seven games and there you are winning again.

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Speaker 2: I guess can you compare the back to back the

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Speaker 13: Well, I'm glad your who hum about it. It was

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Speaker 13: very difficult. Winning a championship is very difficult. Winning two

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Speaker 13: is even tougher. No, I mean, there's nothing like Game seven,

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Speaker 13: and a lot of things had happened. Guys stepped up,

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Speaker 13: of pressure points in that series, in the postseason and

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Speaker 13: And yeah, we've done something that hadn't been done in

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Speaker 2: But you look at pressure and we could see pressure.

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Speaker 2: It was tangible when you're watching Game seven. But the

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Speaker 2: pressure to you're supposed to win, expected to win, you know,

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Speaker 2: the difference in being an underdog in winning, like when

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Speaker 2: you won with the Red Sox as a player, to

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Speaker 2: winning when you're the favorite.

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Speaker 3: The different kind of pressures are feeling that.

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Speaker 14: You have with that, Yeah, you know, I guess, you know,

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Speaker 14: I don't know.

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Speaker 13: I guess The thing about sports is, yeah, everyone's got opinions,

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Speaker 13: but you know, the David and Goliath narrative, fans, media

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Speaker 13: put things together that just aren't true, and to be

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Speaker 13: quite honest, people that have never been in the ring.

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Speaker 13: And the Blue Jays were a very good team. They

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Speaker 13: won the ale least, they won more baseball games than

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Speaker 13: we did. But we're Goliath, and so it was a

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Speaker 13: great series and we were trying to win the series.

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Speaker 13: They were trying to win a World Series. I don't

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Speaker 13: think he was pressure. I think that what happens is

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Speaker 13: as athletes, as teams, you have expectations and goals for yourself.

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Speaker 13: You know, you don't want more for yourself than I

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Speaker 13: think than fans do. You want to win, you expect

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Speaker 13: to win. So I don't think that our pressure or

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Speaker 13: pressure from the fans or media had any bearing on

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Speaker 13: the game. We were trying to win for each other

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Speaker 2: Give me the move that maybe you were going to

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Speaker 2: second guess yourself in Game seven and you didn't.

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Speaker 13: Probably, well, the easiest one is hitting for Miguel Ross.

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Speaker 13: He's a defensive guy. I inserted him in Game six

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Speaker 14: And yeah, that's probably the one.

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Speaker 13: But you know, looking at the bench, it's tough to

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Speaker 13: because the numbers say that there's other guys that can

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Speaker 13: And in the postseason, what I have learned Dan is

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Speaker 13: you know, it's not about the numbers. You got to

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Speaker 13: That's my job. Ultimately, that's my job. It's not to

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Speaker 13: And I do believe that you know, to win eleven

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Speaker 2: But so you're saying gut feeling still has a place

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Speaker 2: in the game. It feels like we're so attached to analytics.

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Speaker 2: How much of what you did in Game seven was

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Speaker 14: It's all got.

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Speaker 13: I think that if you look back at twenty twenty

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Speaker 13: four in the postseason, it's the eye test, it's gut.

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Speaker 13: But people, if you look at twenty twenty, it's eye tests,

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Speaker 13: it's got. People can't get off the analytics for some reason.

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Speaker 13: So these are people that are just stuck in their

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Speaker 13: people that really want to walk, that really watch the

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Speaker 13: analytics had nothing. It's about, you know, coaches trusting their

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Speaker 2: When you saw the collision in left center with Pios

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Speaker 13: I was a bear's r answer and I was unbelievable. You know,

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Speaker 13: they both went after it. Kek was trying to make

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Speaker 13: his Willie Mays play. Pahes was just inserted and just

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Speaker 13: because Key K laid down there for dead, and Pies

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Speaker 13: asked me if he was okay, and he says, forget that.

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Speaker 14: Do you have the ball?

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Speaker 13: And he said, yes, I do have the ball, and

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Speaker 14: So it was it was but again.

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Speaker 13: And it's like Miguel Ross coming out of Game seven

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Speaker 13: because he just expended all energy. It's like, that's just

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Speaker 13: what fans lived for, and that's what our players gave

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Speaker 14: And it was it's hard not to be greedy.

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Speaker 13: But we went one inning, we remain steadfast one and

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Speaker 13: I was nervous in that game Game three, Game three.

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Speaker 3: How was the celebration?

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Speaker 13: We didn't get it in twenty twenty, so it sort

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Speaker 3: Damn you getting used to this.

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Speaker 14: So uh, we're excited. I just think with us, you

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Speaker 13: You know, it's like we started out in South Korean

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Speaker 14: So the three pet is it for us?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean you should. You want to win, you

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Speaker 13: That's right, that's absolutely right. Congrats, congrats, Thank you, Dan,

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Speaker 3: All right, enjoy your off season.

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Speaker 14: All right, take care and tell Clayton I said hello tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: All righty, that's Dave Roberts did it again. I remember

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Speaker 2: It's called Masters of the Game, a conversational history of

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Speaker 2: Bulls came back from twenty four down beat the seventy

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Speaker 2: Sam Smith Phil Jackson co authors of Masters of the Game,

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Speaker 2: a conversational history of the NBA, in its seventy five

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Speaker 16: Well, I think we could have gone on forever about

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Speaker 17: You know, I think one who gets overlooked so much

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Sam Smith and Phil Jackson. The book

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Speaker 2: is Masters of the Game, a conversational history of the

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Speaker 2: NBA the seventy five legendary players. So was there somebody

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Speaker 2: that you wanted to include that you didn't.

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Speaker 17: We used the NBA's top seventy five and you know,

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Speaker 17: no offense. But I thought they were too many, but

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Speaker 17: it was seventy five years. They had to go in

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Speaker 17: seventy five, you know, sort of the controversial if it

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Speaker 17: would be named, was Dwight Howard. But he's a Hall

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Speaker 17: of Famer. You know, people look at it as a

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Speaker 17: negative when you say, well, he wasn't deserving it being

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Speaker 17: the Hall of Fame. You know, a top seventy five,

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Speaker 17: and I thought some of the seventy five, you know,

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Speaker 17: Damian Lillard no offense. I didn't think he was the

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Speaker 17: top seventy five player. I think there was some recent,

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Speaker 17: you know, recency bias in the list, but they had

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Speaker 17: to get the seventy five. I think it was overall

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Speaker 17: a pretty good list. You know I ended up being

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Speaker 17: on the panel. I know Phil doesn't like to select

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Speaker 17: ranked people, and we didn't rank people in this and

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Speaker 17: I think that's another thing that's different. You know, it's

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Speaker 17: not the debate who's number one, who's number two. You know,

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Speaker 17: it's a look at the history of it. So I

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Speaker 17: think it's a fairly good list overall.

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Speaker 5: Phil.

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Speaker 2: Over the years, it feels like your relationship with Scottie

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Speaker 2: Pippen has been complicated.

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Speaker 3: Can you expound upon that.

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Speaker 16: Well, I was assistant coach when Scotty came into the game,

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Speaker 16: and I played with him and against him one on

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Speaker 16: one and tried to help his game out a little bit.

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Speaker 16: And I was big in promoting Scotty because you know,

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Speaker 16: we had Scotty coming off the bench and I had

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Speaker 16: to sub in as a coach for Doug Collins when

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Speaker 16: he got thrown out of a game, and that was

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Speaker 16: like the immediate thing I did. I put Scotty in

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Speaker 16: the game and up the pressure defense because this is

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Speaker 16: one of the best defensive players ever to play the game.

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Speaker 16: So I had a lot of admiration for him and

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Speaker 16: had a lot of contact with him. He was the

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Speaker 16: on court guy that I alerted all the time when

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Speaker 16: defensive strategies would come, double teams, traps, et cetera, whistle,

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Speaker 16: Hey Scottie, it's time whatever. So yeah, it was shocking

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Speaker 16: to hear the comments that he made, but he had

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Speaker 16: a situation that was coming off the bench, not being

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Speaker 16: able to play the last few seconds of the basketball game.

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Speaker 16: That was critical and it made a big change in

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Speaker 16: his life. Michael called the next day from baseball and said,

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Speaker 16: I don't know Scotty'll ever be able to live this down.

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Speaker 16: And I think it's been a hard thing to live down,

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Speaker 16: you know, refusing to go on the ballgame because things

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Speaker 16: didn't go your way.

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Speaker 17: I wanted to add something briefly with that. I thought

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Speaker 17: it was really poignant. You know, Phil's kept a good

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Speaker 17: relationship with Michael. I've seen him occasionally on chat as

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Speaker 17: much as he and Phil might and when some of

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Speaker 17: those things came out, we talked about this in the

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Speaker 17: book that Philip asked Michael about that, and Michael really

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Speaker 17: expressed regret. I thought it was really poignant that Michael

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Speaker 17: told Phil that he feels terrible about losing the relationship

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Speaker 17: with Scottie. You know, a twenty twenty five year relationship

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Speaker 17: that was closer than a lot of people thought. And

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Speaker 17: so you know, it struck me as really poignant that

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Speaker 17: Michael felt a loss about this.

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Speaker 2: Phil The Dennis Rodman relationship certainly different, but it almost

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Speaker 2: felt like you had these big personalities and you gave

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Speaker 2: everybody almost their own longitude and latitude.

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Speaker 3: Is that fair to say?

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Speaker 16: We had a team that was without a power forward

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Speaker 16: when Michael came back to play after his baseball stip,

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Speaker 16: And yeah, we put on a power forwards that it

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Speaker 16: could be or would be capable of filling that role.

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Speaker 16: And we came up with Dennis Robin as the only

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Speaker 16: one that really fit the bill. We traded will Purdue

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Speaker 16: for him and it wasn't a big money thing. And

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Speaker 16: after meeting Dennis and knowing who he was, I addressed

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Speaker 16: the team as we're all adults. There's got to be

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Speaker 16: exception for some players. This guy's not going to come

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Speaker 16: to the games on time. He doesn't shoot, he doesn't

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Speaker 16: go out and shoot around. So he's asked me if

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Speaker 16: he can come a half hour late, so he'll be fine.

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Speaker 16: We'll find him, like the NBA wants to find players

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Speaker 16: for not being there an hour and a half before

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Speaker 16: the game and at the end of the year he'll

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Speaker 16: pay the fine of whatever it was, two five hundred

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Speaker 16: dollars or whatever. But these are exceptions that we're going

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Speaker 16: to have to live with this guy, and I think

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Speaker 16: his talent overways. What's going to happen as we go

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Speaker 16: together towards winning a championship?

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Speaker 3: Phil, give me the player you wish you had coached.

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Speaker 16: Wow, I think a lot of There are a lot

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Speaker 16: of players that you look at and say, what a

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Speaker 16: terrific player this guy is. He's overall, but I think

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Speaker 16: Latners is like one of the guys I thought never

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Speaker 16: really got to play the way he was capable of playing.

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Speaker 14: In the NBA.

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Speaker 16: I would liked to coach guy like that that has talent,

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Speaker 16: had some leadership, mobility, maybe never blossomed as an NBA player.

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Speaker 2: Sam, who do you think changed the game more? Michael

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Speaker 2: Jordan or Steph Curry.

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Speaker 17: Michael Jordan partially because I'm still with the Bulls, so

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Speaker 17: I have to say that that's in my contract. But

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Speaker 17: the greatest thing, you know, I sometimes say, you know,

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Speaker 17: this guy shot better than Michael, passed better, read back,

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Speaker 17: and there's every skill they did bet at Michael. How

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Speaker 17: could be the greatest player. You know, part of it

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Speaker 17: is not just you know, Michael changed the world. You know,

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Speaker 17: long shorts, men could be bald. You know, bald was good.

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Speaker 17: Bald was never good before earrings, the shoes, the fashion.

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Speaker 17: Michael's influence about the world way transcended basketball, and you

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Speaker 17: know that's part of the equation. So I don't think

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Speaker 17: anybody could ever rival Michael with the combination.

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Speaker 2: Of his play guys, good luck with the book. It

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Speaker 2: was an easy read. It was a fun read, and

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Speaker 2: I learned a few things about some of those players

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Speaker 2: that I didn't get a chance to see when I

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Speaker 2: was growing up. Phil, I think I saw you at

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Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Gardens when the Knicks came to town against

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Speaker 2: the Royals. But thanks again, Sam, great to see it, Phil,

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Speaker 2: thank you as well, and good luck with the book.

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Speaker 14: Thanks Ton, Thank you to see it thirty years again.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Sam, So thirty years if the Bulls win

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Speaker 2: another championship, because I'd always see Sam when they'd win

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Speaker 2: a championship. How about Phil, of all the players he

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Speaker 2: could coach, and he gave me Christian Laytner, and I went, okay,

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Speaker 2: Christian's going to be happy to hear about that, but

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Speaker 2: I was like, uh, I almost said, wait a minute,

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Speaker 2: who yeah, PAULI.

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Speaker 10: The whole room on this side we all went in,

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Speaker 10: what I know, because we expected, you know, Dominique Wilkins

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Speaker 10: or some player who whatever. Oh that's that's gonna be frustrating.

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Speaker 10: If you here, Christian Laytner and you hear that.

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Speaker 3: Almost yeah, but a compliment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Phil said that he wanted to. I never

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Speaker 2: You could have given me one hundred guesses. You could

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Speaker 2: have given me a thousand guesses, and I wouldn't have

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Speaker 2: said Christian Lightner.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Nick and Florida, Good morning, Nick. What's on your mind today?

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Speaker 8: Borning Dan six foot one seventy great interview, and I

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Speaker 8: just finished another great interview from yesterday on YouTube.

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Speaker 14: The Reggie.

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Speaker 8: I mean, he's always he's always great. It's reg But

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Speaker 8: that's what I wanted to call about because I just

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Speaker 8: got to give him so much credit and I don't

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Speaker 8: want to take him for granted, for an All Star,

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Speaker 8: a Hall of Famer, a guy like him to be

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Speaker 8: as vulnerable as he is over the years on the

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Speaker 8: show and in other interviews. Of course he's telling doakes.

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Speaker 8: He's a great time. But I don't know any other

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Speaker 8: Hall of Famer, it's tough to think about, especially in hoops.

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Speaker 8: That also just lets it out and gives you like

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Speaker 8: he's gonna talk about Michael Jordan trash talk moments, but

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Speaker 8: also tell you I just had to believe I was

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Speaker 8: the best player, even though I knew I was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm appreciative of reg but I've known Reggie going

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Speaker 2: back to when he was a player, so it's probably

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Speaker 2: been thirty years that I've known him. And to have

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Speaker 2: him be comfortable enough to not treat this as an

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Speaker 2: interview but a conversation. And that's the key with any interview.

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Speaker 2: If you can get them to forget that there's a

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Speaker 2: microphone or there's a TV camera there, that's your goal

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Speaker 2: and it's very hard to do, but when you get it,

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Speaker 2: then you get some great things. Masters of the Game,

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Speaker 2: a conversational history of the NBA in seventy five legendary players.

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Speaker 3: That is the book. Well, take a.

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Speaker 2: Break, last call for phone calls, what we learned, what's

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Speaker 2: in store tomorrow right after this.

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Speaker 1: final results of the poll question there seat no counter.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we got a few doozies up there, We really do.

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Speaker 4: It's given me one moment here to dial a few

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Speaker 4: things in we have up there. If you're a Jets

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Speaker 4: fan today, how are you feeling about? Thirty seven percent

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Speaker 4: are excited for the future, but sixty three percent feeling lost.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: If you're not feeling good about this, go back and

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Speaker 2: listen to Albert Rear last hour of the Monday Morning Quarterback,

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Speaker 2: because he did present a scenario that sounded promising for

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Speaker 2: Jets fans.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 4: See currently the best state for football Indiana or the field.

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Speaker 4: The field has seventy one percent of that vote. That's

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Speaker 4: not a bad showing for Indiana. Shout out Indiana.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 4: And also Kyler Murray heally will finish his career with

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Speaker 4: another NFL team has eighty seven percent of that vote.

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Speaker 4: The Cardinals just two point two. Your other option there

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Speaker 4: was in Major League Baseball that's got eleven percent center

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Speaker 4: the vote.

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Speaker 3: Pretty good, Okay.

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Speaker 2: An hour ago we talked about Tom Brady. He's he

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Speaker 2: cloned his family dog and took some blood from the

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Speaker 2: dog before it passed away, and then I guess they

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Speaker 2: created a dog in his image based.

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Speaker 10: Off the DNA and sample blood sample of the old dog.

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Speaker 2: Yes, rip, okay, so you take the DNA and then

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Speaker 2: what do you you put it in a peatrie?

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Speaker 3: How do I get a dog out of that?

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Speaker 10: I'm looking at the website right now and there's not

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Speaker 10: a clear definition of how.

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Speaker 3: It's built the new dog. Okay, but we.

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Speaker 10: Have a game for you, Dan, how much to clone

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Speaker 10: your dog? You're asking for the price five thousand dollars.

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Speaker 10: I'm going to give you another guess. I'm going to

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Speaker 10: go to the back row, first seat, and how much

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Speaker 10: to clone a dog? General twenty five thousand dollars, Fritzy.

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Speaker 8: One hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: Marvin fifty thousand dollars. I'm going to go ten thousand dollars.

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Speaker 10: Okay, Cloning a dog costs Marvin fifty dollars installments. By

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Speaker 10: the way, okay, can't just pay the back end. Horse

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Speaker 10: cloning is eighty five thousand. A lot more cloning going

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Speaker 10: on there, bigger horse.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, if I got you know, a triple Crown

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Speaker 2: winner or something.

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Speaker 3: Oh that would you know?

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Speaker 2: I can make money off my dog unless it's like

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Speaker 2: a the Westminster Dog Show.

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Speaker 3: So cloning your dog? Pity k that's it. Rich in Wisconsin, Hi.

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Speaker 12: Rich, Hey Dan, thanks for taking my call. I got

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Speaker 12: a comment on the dogs and a T shirt idea.

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Speaker 12: So the dogs, there's a lot of dogs that need

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Speaker 12: to be adopted. I'm a dog owner myself, adopts. We

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Speaker 12: don't need to be making more dogs. They're all going

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Speaker 12: to have their own personality.

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Speaker 16: Just adopts.

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Speaker 12: Okay, So the T shirt idea, yeah, we're always always

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Speaker 12: talking about conn that's the king. So do a shirt

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Speaker 12: that has capital k oh C on it. Pronounce it

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Speaker 12: however you want getting your content.

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Speaker 3: Okay, thank you, Thank you Rich. I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: Adopt adopt a dog, Yes, nothing wrong wrong with getting

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Speaker 2: a dog like Winnie or Penny.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Todd, and get your pet spade and neutered. Thank

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Speaker 3: you Todd.

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Speaker 10: Yes, PAULI, my brother in law got a dog for

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Speaker 10: his family and he paid at a high price for

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Speaker 10: this dog because it was they guaranteed it wouldn't shed.

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Speaker 10: It was some I don't know what it was, guaranteed.

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Speaker 4: Something a doodle. Yeah exactly, Yeah, yes, it was something

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Speaker 4: a doodle.

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Speaker 3: Whatever it is.

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Speaker 10: This dog sheds like like at the contest and he's

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Speaker 10: trying to win.

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Speaker 3: Mike and Cincinnati. Hi, Mike, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 5: I agree with you, Dan, adopt dogs like that for

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Speaker 5: so many. That's a classy example of that too much

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Speaker 5: money pawning your damn dog. Anyway, your interview with Dave

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Speaker 5: Roberts was just are you talking about You were talking

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Speaker 5: about the arm of relaxing the Interviewee, well.

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Speaker 6: You did it beautifully. I thought you guys were sitting

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Speaker 6: on the couch, you know, over your house or something,

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Speaker 6: just shooting a brief But the story told can you

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Speaker 6: recount quickly? Because I only I didn't really hear it

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Speaker 6: real well?

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Speaker 5: What the t K said?

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Speaker 6: Pie has with that catch?

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Speaker 2: He just wanted to know if he caught it. Pie

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Speaker 2: has wanted to know if he was okay. And he

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Speaker 2: was like, forget about that, did you catch the ball?

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Speaker 2: Because he thought if he didn't catch it, they lost.

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Speaker 2: This day in sports history, Paul.

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Speaker 10: Got a couple for you. Let's start with nineteen forty six,

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Speaker 10: the first glass backboard shattered an NBA game. I know

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Speaker 10: you know who did it.

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Speaker 3: He was a went on to be a TV star.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he was the rifleman, Chuck Connors of the self,

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Speaker 2: Chuck Connors, the Rifleman.

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Speaker 10: The AFL was formed in nineteen fifty nine, and let's

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Speaker 10: see George Foreman nineteen ninety four, knighted out Michael Moore

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Speaker 10: in the tenth round of their WBA fight.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Chuck Connors didn't dunk when he shattered

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Speaker 2: the glass.

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Speaker 3: Are you a bunk? Are you the bunk?

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Speaker 14: No?

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Speaker 3: No, no, it shattered.

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Speaker 2: But he actually during warm ups he hit a shot

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Speaker 2: that hit the front of the rim and it cracked

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Speaker 2: the glass backboard because it had been installed incorrectly. But

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Speaker 2: he didn't do it where he brought down the house

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Speaker 2: like Darryl Dawkins.

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Speaker 10: Yes, pauland this is like stolen valor. I've thought for

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Speaker 10: decades that Chuck Connors was like this great dunker and

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Speaker 10: then actor.

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Speaker 2: Well a great actor. I don't think he was a

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Speaker 2: great dunker.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Darryl Dawkins should sue somebody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So it was, it hit the front of the

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Speaker 2: rim and then it cracked it because it had been

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Speaker 2: installed improperly. At least sources close to the closer. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Zach in South Ben Hizac.

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Speaker 9: What's up?

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Speaker 5: Dan?

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Speaker 9: Three shooters?

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Speaker 12: So two things real quick.

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Speaker 9: I want to make a case for the best state

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Speaker 9: for football being Indiana. I think we have to add

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Speaker 9: this piece. At the high school level. There's a player

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Speaker 9: at Knox High School, Miles McLoughlin. He's going for the

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Speaker 9: national career rushing record to beat Derrick Henry. If they

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Speaker 9: continue to win here in the next couple of games,

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Speaker 9: he's probably going to beat it. And he also Dereck

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Speaker 9: Henry also made a comment here recently. I don't know

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Speaker 9: if probably wants to check that out real quick. You

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Speaker 9: can see that. But the second thing is I was

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Speaker 9: wondering we since we came to the Note Dame Show,

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Speaker 9: if you had a chance to try one of the

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Speaker 9: two cigars that I brought you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I did. I tried the Hoya and it was great.

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Speaker 2: That's a great cigar, and thank you, Zach. Yeah, this

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Speaker 2: high school running back, I think he had like six

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Speaker 2: hundred yards in a game something crazy. But we're not

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Speaker 2: including high school football. This is just college in the NFL.

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Speaker 10: Yes, Paul, Yeah, Miles McLoughlin, Knox High School, Derrick Henry's

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Speaker 10: record is twelve thousand, one hundred and twenty four yards

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Speaker 10: in four years a high school.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But this this kid ran for five hundred or something

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Speaker 2: yards twelve thousand, twelve thousand, and he's approaching twelve thousand.

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Speaker 2: I think for his I think he's at twelve thousand

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Speaker 2: in his NFL career. I think Derrick Henry's at twelve thousand.

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Speaker 3: Does that sound right? Yeah, he just went over twelve thousand,

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Speaker 3: I think, yes. Marvin and Derek Hamra went to Alabama

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Speaker 3: and Nick Sdavis said, Hey, twelve thousand yards, you're still

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Speaker 3: four string?

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Speaker 1: Todd?

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Speaker 3: What did you learn today? The playoffield Jackson most witches.

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Speaker 3: He could have had an opportunity to coach Christian Lateness.

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Speaker 4: See, you've seen Sam Smith thirty years ago, and we'll

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Speaker 4: see him in another thirty years.

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Speaker 3: Yes, when the Bulls win another title. Marvin, would you

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Speaker 3: learn Fresno State football is six and three?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? But lost to San Diego State? Though, I believe Paulie,

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Speaker 2: What did you learn?

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Speaker 10: Chuck Connors poser?

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Speaker 3: What did I learned?

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Speaker 5: Todd?

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Speaker 3: Did Jets keep building a foundation on top of a foundation?

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Speaker 3: Not a great way to build a house, though, Clayton

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Speaker 3: Kershaw tomorrow, J J. Watt tomorrow, and hopefully you for

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Speaker 3: Fritzie Seaton tomorrow. Paula yours truly, we'll talk to you

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Speaker 3: tomorrow