WEBVTT - Bonus Episode – Obsessions, Earworms, and RIP Sly Stone 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:04.800 Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life, 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:08.039 just to touch to get you through. Yeah, me too. 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:12.000 This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:31.960 to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:34.400 a little thing we like to call the after party. 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:36.800 This is the show after the show, the party after 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:38.519 the party, the bridge to get you from one full 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:42.000 episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:45.280 into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:48.800 about this week's full episode subject on York. We are 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:52.320 previewing the coming episode on the Who and the Riverfront 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:56.600 Coliseum disaster, talking I'm so obsessed with you, Blues, and 0:00:56.640 --> 0:01:00.280 we go through your voicemails, text DMS emails and as always, 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:03.400 a whole lot of rosie. Al Right, this goes, let's 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:16.960 get into it. So Ricardo Lopez was obsessed with York 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:19.520 and nearly killed her, as we just heard in this 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:24.280 week's full episode. Mark David Chapman was obsessed with John 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:29.160 Lennon and did indeed kill the coolest Beatle. Nathan Gale 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:33.400 was obsessed with Pantera, and he shot and murdered their 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:36.560 guitar player dined by Daryl when Dyne was on stage 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:39.800 with his other band, Damage Plan. Coincidentally on the same 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:43.200 date that John Lennon was murdered December eighth, also the 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:47.800 same day that Jim Marson was born. Anyways, this theme 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:54.360 of obsession got me thinking about musicians and their obsession, 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:56.640 so flipping it. So these everything I just talked about 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:59.080 was about fans being obsessed with rockstars. This is about 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:03.160 musicians who are who themselves are obsessed. Okay, And I 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:07.840 thought about how obsessed Kurt Cobaine was with Courtney Love. 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:10.800 It's something that I don't think gets enough coverage, but 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:14.120 I found it when I was researching Nirvana. For the 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:16.560 two episodes that we did in Nirvana, you could see 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:18.720 it's clear as day the dude was obsessed with her. 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:22.920 And there's a lot of his writings that depict his obsession. 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:26.480 So some people would ask, was Kurt even obsessed with Courtney? 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:29.200 And the answer I think is absolutely yes he was. 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:32.959 Here's an example in one journal entry of Kurtz, he 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:35.919 writes about Courtney Courtney, this is a quote, Courtney, when 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:38.840 you're not around, I literally can't breathe, I can't think. 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:41.920 I feel like a lost child looking for its mother 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:44.639 in a department store. I ache for you. I need 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:47.280 you so fucking bad it scares me. I want to 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:52.000 crawl inside your body and live there now. Of course, 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:56.040 Kurt Cobain was a total mess when he died, aside 0:02:56.120 --> 0:03:00.360 from his relationship with Courtney Love that depending on who 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:02.560 you talk to, will be described to you as being 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:08.359 toxic or damaged at the time or it's hard to 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:12.160 depict that relationship without negativity there at the end. And 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:16.639 Kurt was of course depressed and heavily addicted to drugs 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:20.400 and had been for some time, and that means, you know, 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:23.760 his brains were kind of like oatmeal. But all that said, 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:27.680 I often think what would have happened if Kirk Cobain 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:30.520 didn't kill himself. How would it have gone for Kurt? 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:35.200 And in this context, I'm thinking how would his obsession 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:37.920 with Courtney Love have played out, not just in his 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:42.040 relationship but in his career. I have thoughts, none of 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:43.800 them are good, But I want to keep going down 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:48.120 this obsession rabbit hole with you guys. And where the Nirvana, 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:50.200 where the Kirk cobeine of it all led me? There 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:53.280 aren't any Nirvana songs that I can think of the 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:56.560 deal with the type of obsession that we're talking about. 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:58.600 Maybe there were I didn't really research. I was just 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:00.880 thinking off the top of my head, but it could 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:02.920 be thinking, what are some of the other tunes of 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:08.119 some other songs of obsession from artists that are bordering 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:12.160 on the creepy okay? Songs of obsession that are bordering 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:15.280 on the creepy okay? Well, speaking of John Lennon, there's 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:17.760 Run for Your Life with it's I'd rather see you dead, 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:20.880 little girl than to be with another man now. John 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:24.640 Lennon later said, of course, that he regretted writing that song, 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:27.039 and I always saw the song as sort of a 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:29.360 product of the times. And if you're going to indict 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:31.760 anyone here, I'm not letting John Lennon completely off the hook, 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:34.360 but you got to indict the times. Okay. John said 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:36.520 he regretted it. He always said he regretted that song. 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:38.359 And again, I think it's more about the time that 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:40.560 the songwriter was working in more than it is an 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:44.279 actual statement about a woman that the songwriter was thinking about. 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:48.000 And again I'm not excusing John Lennon. I'm not excusing it, 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:49.920 but we got to take a new context the era 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:52.880 that lyric I'd rather see you dead little girls than 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:54.840 to be with another man. It is hardly I want 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:56.720 to fuck you like an Animal by Trent and Resnor, 0:04:56.760 --> 0:05:00.160 which I'm not sure if obsession was on Trend's mind 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:02.080 when he wrote that lyric or not, but one could 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:04.479 sure as hell make the case. I love that song, 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:08.359 by the way, but you know, taken literally kind of 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:11.240 fucked up. Also, I'm pretty sure Marilyn Manson claims that 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:13.880 he wrote that lyric, that he gave Trent that idea. 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:17.760 That's a whole other wormhole. But let's stay in the 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:22.520 creepy obsession song wormhole for a minute. Okay, And thinking 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:26.719 about this, I came a I don't know why, but 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:29.280 Sarah McLaughlin just she cracks me up. 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:29.920 I don't know why. 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:33.400 She's like the most self serious, least funny person out there. 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:35.320 Although she was in an episode of PORTLANDBIA, so I 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:37.320 gotta give her some credit. But anyway, Sarah mclochlin, check 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:39.560 this out. This is so fucked up. Sarah maclachlin had 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:43.279 a super fan, an obsessed fan, a computer programming fan 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:46.719 from Canada. Okay, so I'm assuming a nerd and he 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:50.880 wrote her all these creepy letters, very very disturbing stuff. 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:55.440 Sarah McLachlin then took some of the Stalker's own words 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:58.039 from those letters and used them in a song that 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:02.000 she wrote about obsession called Session the Stalker. This is 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.839 where it gets weird. The Stalker then sued Sarah McLachlan 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:10.440 for plagiarizing his words, which she admitted she had done that. 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:13.800 She didn't admit plagiarism, but she admitted she used the words. 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:18.119 Wasn't like she was plagiarizing on purpose, trying to pass 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:20.040 it off as her own work, you know, to kind 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:22.480 of get by on people. She was blurring her life 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:25.560 with her art in a pretty awesome way, I would say, 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:29.359 and also obviously very creepy in a good way. But 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:34.360 to make the story even weirder, the case that was 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:39.120 brought by the Stalker against Sarah McLaughlin was never resolved 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:46.560 because the stalker killed himself. Super Dark, Super dark, Sarah 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:51.440 McLaughlin Dark the music's dark too, or shit's dark really 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:55.159 is for somebody so innocent looking. By the way, there's 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:59.640 a fantastic video going around the internet of these two 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:03.680 do at this at a karaoke club and they get 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:08.400 up to sing whatever song Sarah McLaughlin uses in that 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:11.440 commercial she does with the dogs that she's trying to save, 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:13.760 where the dogs are all in cages and the dogs 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:16.520 are all beat to shit, and you know, she's this 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:18.440 is her charity, this is the thing she's doing, and 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:19.960 I'm not making fun of it. It's a great thing 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:23.680 that she's doing, whatever this foundation is. But we've all 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:26.960 seen this commercial, I think, and you know, Sarah, in 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:30.360 addition to the images of the dogs which are truly horrific, 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:33.640 Sarah McLaughlin a very obviously self serious kind of way, 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:39.360 is given the vo on the trauma of these dogs 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:41.640 are facing and why people need to send their money 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:44.400 to this foundation. So back to this video that's going 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:47.480 around the internet, which is hysterical. These two dudes are 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:49.400 at a karaoke bar and they get up and they 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:51.760 choose this song and one dude is singing the Sarah 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:54.840 McLachlin part, and the other dude is reading the vo 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:59.840 from the commercial about the dogs and the reaction on 0:07:59.880 --> 0:08:03.040 the people's face in the carryo it's this fucking priceis 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:04.560 It's so good? Google? 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:05.480 That? All right? 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:09.000 What other songs? What other creepy obsession songs are there, 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:13.720 inspired here by Buorick and Ricardo Lopez, their Stan of course, 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:17.360 by your favorite and mine apparently Eminem. We all know 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:19.080 that song, so I'm not going to go into it here. 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:20.680 There's a ton of these that we know about one 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:24.840 way or another by Blondie, which those lyrics deserve another look. Okay, 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:27.560 check those out. Another listen Every Breath You Take by 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:30.640 the Police. That's not even worth mentioning, it's so overplayed. 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:34.640 But check out Tom Jones is Delilah all right? Where 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:36.520 the pov from the singer and the song is about 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:39.240 murdering a woman for literally murdering a woman for being 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:42.880 with someone else, Tom Jones, I didn't know you had it? 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:46.800 Inya one more here, okay, And this is this is 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:51.160 a great song with or without the obsession context. Here 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:55.240 Frankie tear Drop by Suicide. Great, great, great song and 0:08:55.480 --> 0:09:01.480 super creepy. Now it's it's more of a modern murder ballad. 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:03.640 Then it is a song about obsession, but it's got 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:05.959 a lot of obsession in it, and it's just damn good. 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:07.760 And if you don't know the song, it is a 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:11.320 great introduction into one of the coolest bands to ever do, 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:16.600 a band who influenced everyone from Bruce Springsteen to Radiohead. Okay, 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:18.720 actually this is reminded me of one more song about obsession. 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:22.120 I mentioned murder ballad, So Knoxville Girl by Louvin Brothers 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:24.800 is a murder ballad and it is clearly about obsession. 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:29.080 Lots of versions of Knoxville Girl, including one by the Lemonheads, 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:32.080 but the Luvin Brothers is the best version. Knoxville Girl 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:34.360 might be the song that got me into country music 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:38.200 and superstoke my love for music and crime. It's the 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:40.640 story of one man being obsessed with a woman and 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:43.240 not being able to deal in Well. I don't want 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:44.560 to spoil it for you, but go check it out. 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:47.000 Go listen to Knoxville Girl and listen to the Louvin 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:50.600 Brothers version of it. All right, l ou Vin Luvin 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:53.400 And speaking of the Lemonheads, their new single it's really 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:56.000 fucking good. It's called Deep End. Jam Ascus and Juliana 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:58.679 Hatfield are on the track and it rocks. It's fantastic. 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:02.600 Can't wait for the full album. Dando bring it all right. 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:05.720 Thank you b Yorke for sending us down this obsession 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:08.959 rabbit hole. Check out the Buyorick episode if you haven't 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:13.000 already released it just this week. Also this week, we've 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:16.320 got our Rewind episode coming up next right after this episode, 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:19.320 and that's on Amy Winehouse speaking of obsession, Blake Fielder, 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:21.760 Much Amy. And then next week we've got our new 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:24.880 episode on the Who coming No Obsession here. This is 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:27.720 a part two of sorts. It's a continuation of the 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:30.320 Who story that we started a while ago that's centered 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:34.400 around Keith Moon. Part two episode deals with the Riverfront 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:38.920 Colisseum tragedy, commonly referred to by mistake as a stampede. 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:41.640 It was not a stampede. You have to listen to 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:44.040 hear what I'm talking about and hear what this actually was. 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:47.240 But when you're listening to the Who episode, be thinking 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.880 about all the tragedies that we've talked about from rock 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:51.760 and roll history. We've talked about a lot of them, 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:54.240 and let me know or anyone can be any rock 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:56.160 and roll tragedy even once we haven't talked about, And 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:59.160 let me know if the Who Riverfront tragedy is the 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:02.200 worst rock and roll tragedy and music history, and if not, 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:04.480 what is all right? We could do a whole season 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:06.679 on this I'm not going to, but it's interesting to 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:10.600 talk about because the details are often horrific and just 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:13.600 very vivid and great for storytelling. So call me with 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:16.440 your answers or text them enemy six one seventy nine 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:19.400 oh six six sixty three eight. You might hear your 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:22.040 voice and or your answer on next week's Bonus after 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:24.360 Party episode. You can also DM me your answers to 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:26.480 the question of the Week at Disgrace Lam Pod on 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:29.920 the Socials. Man, I got this song on my fucking 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:30.480 head right now. 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:36.360 Gotta he gottah da dada be wa a a do 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:42.360 do a d d d do do doom bob da 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:46.160 da bab du do do doom ba do do. 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:48.640 What is that? What is that song? It sounds like 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:53.280 a friggin ninety sitcom? What is that? What is that song? 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:55.559 I don't hate it, but something tells me I hated 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:57.840 it a long time ago. Let me know what I'm 0:11:57.840 --> 0:11:59.480 thinking about. All right, I gotta take a quick break. 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:00.880 I need a drink. Clearly you can probably hear it 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:02.440 in my voice and I will be back in a 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:05.800 flash with answers to your questions on the Question of 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:09.240 the week. Last week regarding Adie Bandy Byorke and we 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:12.000 will have your voicemails, your calls, your DMS emails and more. 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:30.959 I'll be back in a flash. 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:34.439 All right, I'm back. Listen Apple podcast listeners, do me 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:37.079 a favor, all right. Make sure go into the app. 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:38.960 Make sure you get auto downloads turned on. 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:39.559 All right. 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:41.760 That's going to ensure that you get all of our 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:47.160 episodes delivered. You don't miss anything, all right. Sly Stone 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:50.319 died this week. Just a real bummer. Sly Stone was 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:53.640 an amazing artist, of course, a revolutionary artist, one of 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:56.480 the greatest artists in my estimation, to come out of 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:59.719 the so called peace and love generation. Whatever you want 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:02.280 to refor to do it as. Sly of course had 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:06.120 his demons well documented in our Disgrace and episode. But 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:08.880 Sly also shows up in a couple other episodes. Our 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:13.320 Woodstock episode, our WHO episode, the first WHO episode. That's 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:16.840 because the Sly and the family Stone performance at Woodstock 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:21.200 is the best performance at Woodstock. They went on super 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:25.640 late and they just completely tore it up, owned the crowd, 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:29.440 just incredible. Sly also shows up in one of our 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:32.400 Fleetwood Mac episodes. I believe it's the one I believe 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:35.240 it's part two when we get into the recording of rumors. 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:39.640 If memory serves Lindsey Buckingham, they went up to I 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:42.560 believe it's in Salsilito. Is that where sly had a studio, 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:45.800 I'm not sure. Somewhere in northern California, and sly had 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:49.040 built this pit in the studio where he could lounge 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:51.280 and listen to music and record. And there are all 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:54.040 these kind of weird little additions to the studio that 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:57.040 sly had made that were sort of to I don't know, 0:13:57.240 --> 0:14:01.080 enhance his state of mind, so to speak. Regardless of 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:04.720 disgrace and regardless of anything we do here, of course, 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:07.959 sly Stone is one of the greatest to do it ever, 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:11.760 and he's left a tremendous legacy of music behind sly 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:16.199 Stone Rest in peace. Six one seven nine oh six, 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:18.400 six six three eight. Hanging on the telephone with you 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:21.280 guys every week. I'm in the phone booth, the same one. 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:24.520 It's the one across the hall, hanging on the telephone. 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:25.800 You want to send me a voicemail, you want to 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:30.280 send me a text us check out Eric, Eric, Eric, 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:33.080 where you're at Eric? In the eight oh five, Hey. 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:39.760 Jay, Eric from uh oh, California, now in Tennessee. Love 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:45.400 for your show, just listening to the Marilyn Manson episode 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:53.120 Love his first three albums. Knew about his uh accusations 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:57.640 and weirdness, But after listening to your episode, Oh my god, 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:01.440 oh my god, I don't know if I could listen 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:02.480 to his music anymore. 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:03.760 At uh. 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:08.640 Yeah yeah, just. 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:14.320 Uh wow, uh yeah. Eric, sounds like we fucked you 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:18.400 up with that Marilyn Manson episode. Um, you know, take 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:23.680 some time, take some long baths, you know, clean yourself off, 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:26.720 get all that Manson filth Offia. You might be able 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:30.400 to come back to the music. Maybe perhaps we shall see. 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:33.960 Thanks for the call, Eric, All right, let's check out 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:36.320 Chips in the three oh three. 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:39.800 Yo. This is Chips from the three oh three, your friendly 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:46.160 neighborhood janitor scrubbing floors. You're asking about crimey books a 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:49.600 few weeks ago. I'm really behind on Bones episodes. I'm 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:53.840 trying to catch up right now. But uh, you asked 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:56.160 for a few, I only got one. Maybe I've been 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:59.560 reading books with my lady just outside on the porch 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:07.360 while smoking or et cetera. And The Lovely Bones is 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:11.480 a really good book about I mean it's told from 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:15.680 the perspective of a dead girl, so it's very existential 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:19.760 and kind of crimey. I wouldn't say deeply crimy, but 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:26.480 I mean the the whole story revolves around the crime 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:28.920 that was committed on her when she died. And it's 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:34.080 it's super cool, super emotional, a little bit hampy. Honestly, 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:38.240 some parts of it can be like h but it 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:42.200 really grips you hold and got a good narrative. Anyway, 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:42.880 check it out. 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:49.160 Goodbye, Chips, Thanks for the call. Appreciate you man, Appreciate 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:50.920 you listen to us while out there scrubbing the floor 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:53.520 is doing the hard work. I had that job once 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:55.920 as a young man, back when I was in a band, 0:16:56.280 --> 0:17:00.160 so I know the sweat and the elbow grease and yea. 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:02.600 I love that we're in your ears while you're working. 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:07.159 Someone's recommended this book before The Lovely Bones, and what 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:10.320 I love about how you set it up is it's 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:13.960 a great what if. You know, it's sort of I 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:16.439 heard someone say once that to write a great book 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:19.440 you have to start with what if, and it has 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:22.560 to be this like really insane thing. What if the 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:25.320 dead person told the story of their murder. You know 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:27.000 what I mean. It's a good It's it's good. So 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:29.680 I'm intrigued, so I appreciate it. Chips six one seven 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:31.240 nine or six six six three, You guys want to 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:33.399 leave me a voicemail, give me a call. We can 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:35.359 talk about anything. We can talk about Marilyn Manson. We 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:37.119 can talk about b York. We can talk about the 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:40.000 Pittsburgh Pirates, we can talk about the Philadelphia Phillies, which 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:42.240 I don't understand why this is coming in, but hey 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:45.040 says from the eight oh three here, as a long 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:48.359 suffering Phillies fan, I feel your pain with the Red Sox. 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:52.439 All right, slow down, long suffering Phillies fan. Did you 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:54.320 guys win the World Series a couple of years ago? 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:57.760 Aren't you in the playoffs? Like every fricking year. I 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:00.159 don't know how the Phillies are doing this year? As 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:01.919 bad as the Pirates, probably not as bad as the 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:03.800 Red Sox either. They were doing pretty damn good last 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:05.960 I checked, which was I don't know three four weeks ago, 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:09.199 eight or three. Goes on to recommend some you know 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:12.040 some what is it? It's like it's basically like a 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:15.600 Red Sox snuff film. It's about Game seven eighty six. 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:19.840 I'm good. I'm good eight oh three. My man Ish 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:23.560 from the seven eighty to one Massachusetts. Hey, man, it's Ish, 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:26.400 hope all as well. Figured i'd share so much intrigue. 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:29.239 It's a nineteen seventy nine World champion Pittsburgh Pirates hat. 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:32.840 Did you guys hear two after parties ago? For all 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:36.000 the Pirates fans out there two after parties ago, I 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:39.800 were very astute. Producer Matt Boden At the end of 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:44.840 the episode, the very end, after I read the billboard charts, 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:48.719 Matt played a little bit of Pirate's history. Now I 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:52.480 heard it, and I meant to ask Matt what the 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:55.800 hell that was, because I had no idea and that 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:57.480 is space and I forgot about it and he brought 0:18:57.480 --> 0:18:57.800 it up. 0:18:58.880 --> 0:18:59.080 Hey. 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:01.600 I wonder if any Pirates fans heard that and figured 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:03.640 it out, and none of you did. All you guys 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:05.760 are sending me in pictures of your hats like Ish 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:09.600 here with this nineteen seventy nine World Championships Pittsburgh Pirates 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:13.480 T shirt with the pillbox Pirates hat on it, Pictures 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:16.080 of Riverfront whatever the hell that stadium is called? Is 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:19.640 that what it's called pack Son. What's it called Tupac Stadium, 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:23.360 Tupac Shakira Stadium in Pittsburgh. But no one picked up 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:26.320 on that little bit of Pirate's history that we had 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:28.280 in the after party. For you guys, go back and 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:30.880 listen two after parties you go. I believe it's the one, 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:33.600 the after party that came right after the Gogs episode 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:35.320 nine to two to zero writes in Hey, I saw 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:38.520 nine inch Nails Downward Spiral tour with Manson in the 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:42.080 Jim Rose Circus. Look into the Jim Row Circus, man, 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:43.560 you don't need to tell me to look into the 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:46.200 gym Ro circus. I saw the Jim Ro Circus as well. 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:50.520 First Lollapalooza. Manson writes about that tour in the book 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:54.080 all Right, eight O eight Texan. In regards to this 0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:57.119 list that we talked about in the bonus section of 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:00.040 last week's after Party, we talked about it was the 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:02.600 list we found of the worst bands of the nineties. 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:05.560 It was a very interesting list for a bunch of reasons, 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:09.040 and one of them I don't totally agree with Ata 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:11.800 eight here, but eight O Wait is saying, in regard 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:14.400 to the worst bands of the nineties. I'll be one 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:16.800 to say I like music from all those bands and 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:19.960 still listen to this day. This list just reflects how 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:24.040 awesome the nineties were. If that's the worst, and that's 0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:26.879 a damn good point. Shane from the eight one to 0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:28.520 six where it said, Hey, Jacob Shane from the eight 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:30.400 one to six, worst band of the nineties as well 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:33.720 as the two thousands and even the eighties is fucking ICP, 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:40.000 hands down the worst shit ever. All caps eight one 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:43.240 six has really worked up about ICP. I'm assuming ICP 0:20:43.440 --> 0:20:46.760 is insane clown Posse. Was insane clown posse around in 0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:50.320 the eighties. We need to do an insane clown Posse episode. 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:54.879 That's one of those subjects I'm not very familiar with, 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:57.840 and I'm kind of afraid of what the research is 0:20:57.880 --> 0:20:59.920 going to do to me, but I'm here for it. 0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:02.639 Six one seven nine oh six six six three eight. 0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:04.480 You guys want to hit me up on voicemail, on text, 0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:06.880 hit me about anything you want to talk about, Insane 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:13.800 clown Posse, Pittsburgh pirates, true crime, thrillers, novels. All right, 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:18.600 Allen rights in and that's a Llyn at disgrace landpod 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:20.959 on Instagram. Hey Allen from the six one nine. I've 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:23.639 been a Disgrayland fans since the very beginning, turning everyone 0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:25.600 I know out of your greatness. I grew up in 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:29.280 Bakersfield but now live in San Diego. In a while back, 0:21:29.320 --> 0:21:31.400 I was driving up to visit my parents who still 0:21:31.440 --> 0:21:33.360 live there, and figured it would be the perfect time 0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:36.600 to re listen to your Merle Haggard episode. I thought 0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:38.520 I'd have to dig through the archives, but wouldn't you know, 0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:41.040 it was that week's rewind episode and there it was, 0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:43.800 at the top of the Disgraceland feed. I timed it 0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:46.120 perfectly as I hit play coming out of the mountains 0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:48.680 on the ninety nine Freeway transition at the base of 0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:51.680 the Grapevine for the final forty minute stretch. It ended 0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:53.800 right when I pulled up to their house, which happens 0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:56.560 to be right next to Merle's old part of town 0:21:56.680 --> 0:21:59.159 in Oildale. I took a screenshot on my phone to 0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:03.800 commemorate the and then he includes the screenshot here in 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:08.359 the DM and I think that's damn cool, Alan, very cool. Guys. 0:22:08.359 --> 0:22:09.960