1 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Global business news twenty four hours a day. If Bloomberg 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: dot Com the radio plus Globo lapp and on your radio. 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: This is a Bloomberg Business Flash from Bloomberg World Headquarters. 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: I'm Katherine Cowdery. Wall Street extended the rally, sending the 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: SMP five foundered to its strongest two day climb in 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: four months. Tension is easing over the impact of a 7 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: UK exit from the European Union. Energy shares capped their 8 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: best two days since Marches crewd jumped. Oil climbed after 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: reports showed crude inventories dropped for a sixth week, while 10 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: the dollar retreated. Among itst piers, the Dow Industrial Laverage 11 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: climb two hundred eighty five points one point six percent 12 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: to close at seventeen thousand, six hundred ninety four, The 13 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: SMP five hunder game thirty five points one point seven 14 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: percent to close at two thousand seventy and the NASTAC 15 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: added eighty seven points one point nine percent to close 16 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: at forty seven seventy nine. West Texas Intermedia crude oil 17 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: up a dollar seventy three of barrel three point six 18 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: percent to forty eight. Spot gold up three dollars thirty 19 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: cents an ounced to thirty and a ten year treasury 20 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 1: down eleven thirty seconds with the yield of one point 21 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: five zero percent. And that's a Bloomberg business flash. You're 22 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: listening to taking stock with pim Box and Kathleen Hayes 23 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Radio. An exit x M Bank stalemate delayed 24 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: some plane deliveries. That's according to Boeing, a headline that 25 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: ran on the Bloomberg yesterday. Uh. In fact, Jackie Collins, 26 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: writing in The New York Times, rites earlier in the 27 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: week that Tomorrow Thursday is an ignominious anniversary for the 28 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: government agency that helps finance foreigners purchases of American exports. 29 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: Thanks to a single senator, it's been a full year 30 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: that the eighty two year old Export Inport Bank could 31 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: approve deals exceeding ten million dollars, a limit that rules 32 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: out high dollar deals on airplanes, power generations, heavy equipment, 33 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: and New Year actors. No wonder that Boeing has reported 34 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: that news. Now, let's introduce a man who is the 35 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: head of the x M Bank is here to talk 36 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: to us about what's going on and what it means 37 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: for exports from the United States. Fred Hawkbird Chairman and 38 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: President of the Export Import Bank of the United States, 39 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: joining me in studio. Thank you for coming in, Thanks 40 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: for having me so. First of all, remind people what 41 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: the excellent Bank is. It's not quite a hundred years old, 42 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: but it's been around for a while, around for a while. 43 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: The Export Inport Bank United States is a trade bank 44 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: for the United States. We've had it since nineteen two. 45 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: FDR started it. And the understanding that to create more jobs, 46 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: we need to do more exporting and their risks and 47 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: both real and imagine from exporting. So the x and 48 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: Bank was created to support US jobs and we sell 49 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: goods overseas, level the playing field with foreign competitors, and 50 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: phill the market gaps and emerging economies places like that. Now, 51 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: I think over the years, people who think the exce 52 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: and Bank isn't worth it isn't needed. Maybe I should 53 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: say is that this is a globalized world. Small even 54 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: small and medium businesses are exporting much more than they 55 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: used to, not just the big ones. But as you 56 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: get ready to release your Competitiveness Reports Summary for twenty fifteen, 57 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: you have some some factoids that I think paint a 58 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: somewhat different picture. You say, for example, that export credit 59 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: agencies are much more important now and finding financing exports 60 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: for large pro projects in emerging markets, and that foreign 61 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: e c a s are getting a lot more aggressive 62 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: on behalf of their exporters. And I guess that's your 63 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: argument for the U S and two. Well, right now, 64 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: you know, when we look at global growth, global growth 65 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: is slowing. One of the key drivers of growth around 66 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: the world, not just in the United States, but his exports. 67 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: You see monetary policy as somewhat run its course. It's 68 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: hard to do fiscal stimulus, not just in the US 69 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: but elsewhere. So more and more countries are turning to 70 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: exports to drive their economy and drive job growth, and 71 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: hence it's far more competitive and much tougher and much 72 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: more competitive environment for US companies competing. There eight five 73 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: export credit agencies in sixty seven countries around the world, 74 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: and yet in last year more than sevent of medium 75 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: and long term export credit support fell outside the o 76 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: e c D arrangement. Sure, let me brief with the 77 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: o e c D. The Organization for Economic Corporation Development 78 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: sets the rules of the road. It's a transparent system 79 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: that says if a government follows those rules. It is 80 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: allowed under the w t O, the World Trade Organization, 81 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: and for many years that governed how governments supported their exporters. 82 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: But with the rise of China and the rise of 83 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: some other Asian countries, but particularly China, UM they fall 84 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: outside of the rules and that makes it much more 85 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: competitive for U S companies try and compete so we 86 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: get our fair share. China, as you point out, responsible 87 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: for ten times more export financing than the US, up 88 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: from eight times last year. And of course, you know 89 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: China has taken advantage of so many aspects of world trade, 90 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: and trade with the US helped hollow out our manufacturing. 91 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: You know. Uh so, I guess that would be another 92 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: reason why you say that we've got to step up 93 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: and do sending and you need more support. Well, you know, 94 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: a little over a dozen of years years ago, Kathleen, 95 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,679 Speaker 1: we were the largest single export in the entire world. 96 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: We are number two today, number two to China. I 97 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: believe there's no reason looking in American innovation and products 98 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: and quality, we can't be number one again. But companies 99 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: need the tools. XM Bank is one of those tools. 100 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: We can't rely on trade sanctions alone to drive our economy. 101 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: So why does the U. S. Senator richarch shall Bey, 102 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: Republican from Alabama, once a bank supporter UH, block the 103 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: renewal of the regulations the go ahead that you need 104 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: to move ahead, and it's been almost a year that 105 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: you've had to pull back. Well, probably should ask Chairman 106 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: Shelby that directly. I would say that let's remember, two 107 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: thirds of the Senate voted for XM bank h A 108 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: overwhelming of the House, including a majority of all the 109 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: Republicans of the House, voted for it. So it is 110 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: quizzical why Senator Shelby has not had a hearing so 111 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: that we can evaluate the nominated the board. And let 112 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: me just add the nominee was recommended to President Obama 113 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: by Mitch McConnell, the Republican leader, and it's a Republican 114 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: seat on our board. Do you cost us taxpyer money? 115 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: We actually make money. Last year we sent four hundred 116 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: thirty million dollars to the taxpayers, UH, and since President 117 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: Obama was elected, it's north of two billion dollars we 118 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: have sent to the taxpayers. Essentially, that's the profit we 119 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: make and that even the Wall Streetjournal refers to appress 120 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: the profit we make. That we send to the Treasury. 121 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: So what is your message to Senator Shelby, What is 122 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: your message to the American people? Who I don't know 123 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: what what American people can do about this, except maybe 124 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: the the citizens of Richard Shelby stayed in voting amount 125 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: of office. He's a very powerful senator. That doesn't look 126 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: likely to happen anytime soon. Well, the key thing is 127 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: we're talking about us jobs and last year we supported 128 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: a hundred nine thousand jobs. That numbers down this year 129 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: less that we're doing less than half the business of 130 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: a year ago. Uh um. President Obama recently met with 131 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: Prime Minister Moti. We're looking at a nuclear power facility 132 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: for India. Without the X and Bank, that project will 133 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: not go forward and those jobs will go elsewhere, not 134 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,679 Speaker 1: to the land state. So we're talking about real jobs 135 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: in small communities around this country that are in jeopardy. 136 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: So many of them have to do with manufacturing, a 137 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: very beaten up sector, but one that has been coming back. 138 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: Wilfred Hawkberg, we hope to have you back. We're gonna 139 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: follow us very closely. It's a fascinating story. Chairman and 140 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: President of the Export Import Bank of the United states 141 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: they were competitive. Survey out tomorrow. I'm Kathleen Hayes. 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