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Speaker 1: Uh and it's it's it's it's bigger than hip hop,

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Speaker 1: What is this? It's hip hop because it's bigger. You

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Speaker 1: I'm using this example personally as something that is built

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Speaker 1: of is like your progressive liberal you know, social justice

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, right, So that's why you

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Speaker 1: use those terms, right, because they're color mutes. So it's

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Speaker 1: a way out of getting pinned down by what you mean.

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Speaker 1: And sometimes it's like you can use color mute terms

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Speaker 1: because you are trying to use something else, which is

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Speaker 1: an umbrella term, right, or a pan ethnic thing. So

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Speaker 1: like when you say something like Asian, that's pan ethnic,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, I mean, how different

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Speaker 1: is Malaysia, Kimbo, the Philippines from Manchuria like it's Siberia,

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Speaker 1: Like it's super different, you know what I'm saying, But

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Speaker 1: you know African, like that's you kidne me like the

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Speaker 1: second largest land mass on the planet, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's like you can't possibly talking to

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Speaker 1: be talking about all the same people, right panethnics. So

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Speaker 1: sometimes you might be using an umbrella term uh, but

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Speaker 1: maybe saying it with color mute words following me. I'm

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Speaker 1: using that to say how one could from a macro

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Speaker 1: perspective by into something like this, and why you would

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Speaker 1: see things like, uh, Confederate flags, you know, seventeen seventy

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Speaker 1: six calls, eighteen seventy seven calls like just which is

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Speaker 1: crazy because eighteen seventy seven is like the basis the

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Speaker 1: compromise of the basis of like black codes of like

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Speaker 1: why we had so why it was so hard for

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Speaker 1: us to vote? You know what I'm saying. Um, why

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Speaker 1: you would see like Auschwitz T shirts and these people

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Speaker 1: calling themselves patriots. Some people would say there was dog

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Speaker 1: whistles happening. You know. Dog whistles is basically this idea

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Speaker 1: that like if you don't know what that means, It's

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Speaker 1: just this idea of like where only you blow it,

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Speaker 1: and only you're not saying it, but people that needed

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Speaker 1: to hear it here hurt it. He who have ears

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Speaker 1: let him here, you know, and bye read a Bible awards,

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Speaker 1: so to say things like the true America, you know,

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Speaker 1: I lost all of the cities, all of the urban areas.

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Speaker 1: But the true America, the true Americans, they know the truth.

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Speaker 1: And it's that I won. I won by a landslide.

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Speaker 1: What does he say, ain't well black people, brown folks,

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Speaker 1: that's what he's saying, he said. And when I lost

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Speaker 1: to the city, you talk about black you talk about

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Speaker 1: people of color, that's what you talk about black people,

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Speaker 1: you talk abou about you. What you're saying is and

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Speaker 1: the true America's white people. That's what you're saying. They

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Speaker 1: heard it. So you're stoking something you you you you

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Speaker 1: tapping into something that again is bigger than themselves and

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Speaker 1: make them feel like now they they're part of a cause.

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Speaker 1: Because how do you explain follow me, y'all, I'm again,

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Speaker 1: I'm just teaching. How do you explain if factually speaking,

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Speaker 1: the system has always worked for capital w white people. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: if we're talking you know, economic issues, socio economic issues. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: that's a different that's a different piece of intersectionality, which

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Speaker 1: is something you don't want to talk about because you

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Speaker 1: don't believe in critical rights theory. But that's another piece

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Speaker 1: of intersectionality that we have talked about later, that that

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Speaker 1: says that, Yeah, of course there are class issues that

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Speaker 1: complicate what I'm trying to say, right, but that's why

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Speaker 1: I say capital w white people, whiteness. The system has

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Speaker 1: worked for you. The system has worked for whiteness because

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Speaker 1: it was built for whiteness. This is all like you

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Speaker 1: could even ask the all right, it was like yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: like read the founding father's documents. This was made for us.

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Speaker 1: It was designed so when it stops working for you,

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Speaker 1: rather than looking at huge sweeping ideas that might possibly

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Speaker 1: be the problem, like well, capitalism running unchecked. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like the removal of a social safety net,

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Speaker 1: like the idea of like the idea of like a

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Speaker 1: social health care, health care is unaffordable. The idea of

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Speaker 1: social health care would actually help us all, especially low

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Speaker 1: again intersectionality, low income white people can't afford it either,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm saying that coal miner who out there

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Speaker 1: with that Filipino you know immigrant that like they're sharing

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Speaker 1: U across junior freaking number four meal because you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, they boss like won't give them no raise.

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Speaker 1: You feel me like they understand that intersectionality, you feel me, right,

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Speaker 1: But he and would really appreciate the idea that like

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Speaker 1: maybe if my health care wasn't tied to this job,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have to keep going into this cold you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But you're ignoring those sweeping ideas

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Speaker 1: and just saying somebody else must have ruined it for me,

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Speaker 1: just like somebody else stole this election. Somebody else stole

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Speaker 1: my way of life. Well who is Well, who stole

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Speaker 1: your way of life? Well? You got black people cutting

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Speaker 1: in front of the line. You got all these immigrants

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Speaker 1: stealing the jobs that he's good paying American jobs, right.

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Speaker 1: You got these social elites, these democrats taking all the

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Speaker 1: work and taking it over to other countries. Right, and

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Speaker 1: then you got them, you know, uh, extremely wealthy people

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Speaker 1: who are buying large liberal right and want to control

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Speaker 1: your life systems not failing systems. Fine, it's been taken

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Speaker 1: from you, so you need to go take it back, Nigga,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't you ride to if that was all true? Wouldn't

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Speaker 1: you be like, let's ride. So when something gets bigger

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Speaker 1: than all of us, it becomes self sustaining. So again,

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Speaker 1: what that means for I think it only collapses with

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Speaker 1: a huge collapse. Trump gotta crash and burn for you

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Speaker 1: to see that that man is not a DemoGod. I

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Speaker 1: think number one, clearly, the facts don't matter, right because

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Speaker 1: none of the stuff is true, right. I think somebody

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Speaker 1: has to address y'all's grievances in a truthful, healthy manner.

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Speaker 1: Somebody has to be able to speak your language and say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: so what you're trying to take back here? This this

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Speaker 1: actually solves the problems you need, You you asking for.

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Speaker 1: You feel like you're not being heard, you feel like

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Speaker 1: you're not being treated fairly. Okay, well check this out.

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Speaker 1: Boom boom boom, boom boom. Here's how we got here.

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Speaker 1: Here's how to fix it. You know, what I'm saying

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Speaker 1: in a way that they get to see is not

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Speaker 1: just feeding their grievances. Now, how is that gonna happen?

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Speaker 1: And I don't know because that's slow and hard. How

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Speaker 1: to do that. What's quick, easy and get you back

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Speaker 1: in power is you ride that way. But the part

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Speaker 1: that's so strange to me is that if you're telling

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Speaker 1: me the system is broken and flawed and terrible, why

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Speaker 1: the hell would you run and have me vote for

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Speaker 1: you if you don't believe voting works. I mean, they

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Speaker 1: could turn and as black people the same thing. I

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Speaker 1: ain't got to answer money. I think there are lessons

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Speaker 1: we can learn from history. They're not one one to ones,

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Speaker 1: but I think that things we can learn, some of

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Speaker 1: which is grievance. Politics works, but only for so long

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Speaker 1: it eventually descends into well, total meltdown. But even if

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Speaker 1: it descends into total meltdown, we'll survive, m y'all. This

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