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Speaker 1: This One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: Hey, glad to have you with us. Chris Brown see

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Speaker 2: task with you. Welcome to a Wednesday edition of One

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Speaker 2: Bills Live here with the up till three, and we'll

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Speaker 2: have our rundown in just a moment. Along with our

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Speaker 2: topic of discussion for you, we will also have some

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Speaker 2: details of the rule proposals and by law proposals submitted

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Speaker 2: by teams and the competition committed for the upcoming league meetings,

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Speaker 2: which began, I believe on Sunday and run through Tuesday

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Speaker 2: of next week. So we'll dice some of that up

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Speaker 2: for you, because there are a couple that have been

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Speaker 2: proposed by the Bills, so we'll get to that here

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Speaker 2: in short order. But we do want to get to

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Speaker 2: what is probably the most noteworthy news concerning the Bills

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Speaker 2: and the Sabers for that matter. They have named Pete

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Speaker 2: Gwelli chief operating officer of the Bills and the Sabers.

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Speaker 2: He previously worked with the Bills, left the club in

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Speaker 2: two thousand and nine to take on a front office

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Speaker 2: position with the Charlotte Hornets as chief operating officer down

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Speaker 2: there in the NBA, and then in twenty twenty, moved

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Speaker 2: on to the New York Giants, where he has currently

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Speaker 2: worked until being named to this position for the Bills.

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Speaker 2: He's a Rochester native, so coming back to Western New

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Speaker 2: York was clearly a lure for him of sorts. But

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Speaker 2: he just addressed the media this past hour, so we

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Speaker 2: wanted to play some of his opening comments and some

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Speaker 2: that he faced from the Western New York media.

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Speaker 3: First of all, just thank you for all for being here.

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Speaker 3: A lot of familiar names and faces, and I'm really

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Speaker 3: looking forward to seeing everything in person. I just wanted

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Speaker 3: to start by thanking John Mara and Steve Tish. I've

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Speaker 3: loved being here with the Giants, every minute of it,

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Speaker 3: and they've been incredibly gracious and professional during this entire process.

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Speaker 3: Quick thank you to Joe Shane and Brian day Ball,

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Speaker 3: true partners since they set foot on the ground here.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to really miss working with those guys. Everyone

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Speaker 3: to the Giants and my staff, we all know we're

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Speaker 3: only as good as our teams. And my wife Patty

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Speaker 3: very happy that career and geography has finally aligned and

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Speaker 3: to return home. And just finally Terry and the Pagoula

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Speaker 3: family wanted to thank them. There's so much opportunity with

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Speaker 4: We will open it up to questions now, and the

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Speaker 4: first question will be from John Morrow. Hey, Pete, how

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Speaker 4: you doing good?

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Speaker 3: John, good to see you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, welcome back. I guess you can come back home

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Speaker 4: again apparently. What I mean, aside from the obvious, what

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Speaker 4: in having you know, played a role in keeping the

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Speaker 4: back in the early two thousands, and what you're seeing

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Speaker 4: from them right now is being a successful franchise.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like it's a surreal moment. I think

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Speaker 3: from the minute I left, there's always a little bit

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Speaker 3: But it's almost like a gravitational pull in some ways

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Speaker 3: when you come from the area and you take a

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Speaker 3: lot of pride in growing up there and representing your

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Speaker 3: And now we're looking at something like this new building

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Speaker 4: And just one other question on the Sabers. Giving you

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to get the work on the Sabers.

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Speaker 3: I really think that that is the potential there, I

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Speaker 2: All right, So that is Bills and Sabers new COO

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Speaker 2: Pete Qwelly back with the Bills organization, where he had

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Speaker 1: So he's got an excellent pedigree. I mean, he's got

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Speaker 1: Marra family, the Marra family, So it was they hired

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Speaker 1: a guy with certainly an impressive resume and obviously a

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Speaker 2: And you and I have been around long enough to

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Speaker 1: Him the last time he was here, Yeah, and it

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Speaker 2: There was player roster related news that officially came down

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Speaker 2: after we were off the air yesterday. Running Back Ty

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Speaker 2: They liked what they saw on him. Joe Brady used

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Speaker 2: So good to see him back in a Bill's uniform

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he turned some heads last year, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: I you knew this. I thought for sure this was

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Speaker 1: So yeah, congratulations of Ty Johnson. I'm all about it.

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Speaker 2: And then the new addition came along the defensive line

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Speaker 2: he has athleticism that I think is underrated. Guy ran

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Speaker 2: going to play for Sean McDermott. He has that in spades,

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Speaker 2: But this guy's got even more athleticism than Trent. He's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's an edge guy, no question, He's not He's

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Speaker 2: And he's long. I mean he's like six five yeah,

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Speaker 1: Right. I'll say this, I'll say this to this is

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Speaker 1: rightfully so. And he's got he's got some nice he's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can see a lot of his plays

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Speaker 2: So that's five. You're probably adding maybe a late round

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Speaker 1: I think what you're talking about now going forward is

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Speaker 1: They kind of have to. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think two Hill, though, is a meat and potatoes

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Speaker 2: And I don't think there's any reason to think that's

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Speaker 1: I think they got a guy that's going to be

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Speaker 2: So that's kind of the doings with respect to the roster.

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Speaker 2: There is, as we mentioned, some stuff that came down

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Speaker 2: the upcoming league meetings that begin on Sunday, and there

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Speaker 2: were a couple submitted by Buffalo, but first playing rule

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Speaker 1: Would you get one right? You get it back up

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Speaker 1: No, if you get it right, you should get your

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Speaker 1: I think it's fine. I'm I'm all about it.

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Speaker 1: That's the problem, and that's the that's the thing, that's

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Speaker 1: So you can laugh, But that's what it is. You

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing is, if they get it right, and

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Speaker 1: And I would ask too, that is that's also the

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Speaker 2: Well, I would think because it's an offensive play, it

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Speaker 1: But it's not like an extra point though, which is untimed. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure they'll spell that out. Indianapolis wants to

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Speaker 1: That's a Canadian Football League.

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Speaker 1: can because you can call, you can have a penalty.

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Speaker 1: They can challenge anything. Now it says here it has

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Speaker 1: So it's not like they can make one up. That's

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Speaker 1: the Canadian way. It has to be a called penalty.

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Speaker 1: You can you can, you can challenge anything, am I

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Speaker 1: am I right. It's said any call, any call on

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Speaker 2: Moving along to bylaw proposals, this deals more with roster

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Speaker 2: They want a little flexibility there because currently you can

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Speaker 1: It's great until you the lines get blurred.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And then there were a couple of by law proposals,

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Speaker 1: Granted the only and I'll say this too, when you

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The other Buffalo proposal comes with resolutions, and this

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Speaker 2: The Jets notoriously downplay the severity of the injuries on

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Speaker 1: It's a good point.

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Speaker 2: So I kind of like that that.

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Speaker 1: Well if there if he's playing our guy, this guy

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Speaker 2: It could change your game plan if he's playing, and

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Speaker 1: If he's not playing, this guy is in kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: Follow the NBA here. Tenths of a second? How long

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Speaker 2: Then we have the Competition Committee proposals.

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Speaker 1: Of which there are quite a few.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they want the hip drop tackle to be outlawed,

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Speaker 2: and if it does happen, it's a fifteen yard personal

439
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Speaker 2: foul penalty. That's an interesting one. They also want to

440
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Speaker 2: expand the crackback prohibition on blocks to players who go

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Speaker 2: in motion and move beyond the center to block a

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Speaker 2: defender adder below the knee. They're trying to get rid

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Speaker 2: of that crack back and cut block.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to get rid of the contact that happens

445
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Speaker 1: when a guy is not expecting it. Yes, and that's you.

446
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Speaker 2: Know, and the most important of all from the Competition

447
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Speaker 2: Committee to create a new kickoff play, which is modeled

448
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Speaker 2: after the XFL kickoff, in which the return team and

449
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 2: the coverage team stand just ten yards apart, with the

450
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Speaker 2: exception of the guy kicking the ball off at the

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Speaker 2: thirty five and the return man and then the coverage

452
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Speaker 2: team cannot release from that spot ten yards away from

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Speaker 2: the return team until the return man catches the ball.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like a tag up play in baseball.

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Speaker 2: They can't move until the returner catches the football.

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Speaker 1: And the front guy line guys on the receiving team move.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe. So yeah, so they all got to

458
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Speaker 2: look back then.

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Speaker 1: And it's interesting too, because the way this is set up,

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Speaker 1: and I've got a kind of a graphic here in front.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the kicking team will still kick from their

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Speaker 1: own thirty five yard line, okay, but the guys that

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Speaker 1: are covering that kick are clear past midfield towards the

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Speaker 1: place he's kicking at the fort that the other forty

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Speaker 1: yard line, and then the return team is inside their

466
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Speaker 1: own thirty five yard line, and there's a landing zone

467
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Speaker 1: where the ball has to land in inside the receiving

468
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Speaker 1: teams twenty and outside the end zone. I'll say this,

469
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Speaker 1: and I don't know what it's going to look like,

470
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Speaker 1: but to me, it's gonna be like a kickoff, but

471
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a little bit in slow motion and

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Speaker 1: not much velocity, and I think that's exactly what they're

473
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Speaker 1: looking for. Guys aren't gonna be able to get up

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Speaker 1: to speed to go down and blow people up that

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Speaker 1: you can't. It's gonna be a lot of one on

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Speaker 1: one blocking out in space, which is really really difficult

477
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Speaker 1: to do for the return team, really hard to do

478
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Speaker 1: a lot of one on one locking in space. And

479
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Speaker 1: the return guy is gonna be really it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: really interesting to see what it looks like for him,

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Speaker 1: plus the gamesmanship that they're gonna have and the freedom

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Speaker 1: they're gonna have, the gamesmanship, the kick itself where it's

483
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Speaker 1: gonna land, it's gonna be a line drive, bounce, it's

484
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Speaker 1: gonna hop and bounce. Is it gonna be high and drop?

485
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Speaker 1: In short, all of that stuff, All of that stuff

486
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Speaker 1: has to be thought out too, because it's all out

487
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Speaker 1: there really interesting rule change for kickoff guys and old

488
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Speaker 1: special Teams players like me. It's fun to you know,

489
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Speaker 1: conjecture holes in the rule what god teams will be

490
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Speaker 1: able to get away with. It's it's gonna be a

491
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Speaker 1: lot of fun and it's gonna be interesting if it's adopted.

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Speaker 1: I guess it's still a proposal, right.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so we'll see. Well, that's yeah from the Competition committee,

494
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Speaker 2: So it's gonna have to get to three quarters support

495
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Speaker 2: from the ownership. There is news. ESPN's Adam Schefter Steve

496
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 2: was just talking about after signing Casey two Hill yesterday

497
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Speaker 2: at defensive end. The focus will probably shift inside defensive tackle. Well,

498
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Speaker 2: look at what happened here. ESPN's Adam Schefter is reporting

499
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Speaker 2: that Chargers free agent defensive tackle Austin Johnson is going

500
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 2: to visit the Bills on a free agent visit. He

501
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 2: is a twenty nine year old, soon to turn thirty

502
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 2: year old defensive tackle six four three fourteen played for

503
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 2: the Chargers last year in all seventeen games. He's a

504
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 2: clog it up player, but he's also this is interesting,

505
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 2: a former teammate of Daikwon Jones. They played together for

506
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 2: a few seasons in Tennessee. And we know owner Terry

507
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 2: Pagoula like this. He's also a Penn State guy.

508
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Speaker 1: So there you go. He didn't sign him up. Didn't

509
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Speaker 1: play hockey, did he?

510
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Speaker 4: Right?

511
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Speaker 1: No, he did not say hockey.

512
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Speaker 2: But played for the Chargers the last two years. Eight

513
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Speaker 2: year veteran in the league, will turn thirty before next season,

514
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 2: but played in all seventeen games last year, missed some

515
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Speaker 2: time the year before, appearing in all eight games before

516
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 2: an injury, and then all seventeen games for the Giants

517
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one. But yeah, has been a productive player.

518
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 2: I remember him in the game in Week sixteen out

519
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 2: in LA. He was causing problems in the inside run

520
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 2: lanes for Buffalo's run game in that Bill's Chargers game,

521
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 2: which we know Chargers didn't have their starting quarterback, they

522
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 2: didn't have a bunch of other players, and they played

523
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Speaker 2: them tough. But yeah, Austin Johnson supposed to visit the

524
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Speaker 2: Bills here today, all right, so we'll keep an eye

525
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Speaker 2: on that and a near to the ground on that

526
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Speaker 2: and see what comes of it. But former second round

527
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Speaker 2: pick of the Tennessee Titans all the way back in

528
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Speaker 2: the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, quickly topic of discussion for

529
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Speaker 2: you today. We are talking free agency. Which free agent

530
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Speaker 2: signing or re signing will have the biggest impact in

531
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Speaker 2: the upcoming twenty twenty four season. You let us know it,

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Speaker 2: AIGHTO three oh five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two,

533
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Speaker 2: five fifty the number to get on board. And uh,

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Speaker 2: you can't call us there. He can hit us up

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Speaker 2: on the tweet sheet at One Bill's Live. But your

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Speaker 2: phone calls come on your way next. Here On one

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio

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Speaker 2: all right back here on One Bills Live, Chris Brown,

539
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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you. Topic of discussion for you today.

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Speaker 2: I know we're not done with free agency, but which

541
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Speaker 2: free agents signing or re signing do you think will

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Speaker 2: have the most impact for the team in the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four season. Eight oh three oh five point fifty

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Speaker 2: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty the

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Speaker 2: number to get on board. And uh, we have some

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Speaker 2: open lines for you at eight oh three oh five fifty.

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Speaker 2: But we're gonna lead off today with Mike in Batavia.

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Speaker 2: What do you got for his? Mike, You're on One

549
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Speaker 2: Bill's Live.

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Speaker 5: Hey, good afternoon, guys. Love the show. I I'm driving today,

551
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 5: I listen to it and I actually tape it or

552
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 5: record it on MSG and watch it sometimes when I'm

553
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 5: not able to hear it. So the show and all

554
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 5: the work that you guys do, thank you. And like

555
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 5: you guys, I'm on the receiver train and I've got

556
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Speaker 5: a couple of different draft magazines that I bought because

557
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Speaker 5: I because I love this. I got the Lindy's and

558
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 5: I got the Athlon, you know, and so we're we

559
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 5: and I have learned to really trust the Bills what

560
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 5: I think is the most important is that they know

561
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 5: what they really think about these guys up close, whether

562
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 5: it's their character, whether it's the nuances of their of

563
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 5: their abilities, whether it's their upside. And I really trust

564
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Speaker 5: you know, when you come down to like three or

565
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 5: four receivers like Thomas and Mitchell and leg Att and

566
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Speaker 5: guys like that, they'll they'll pick they know something about

567
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 5: these guys that we don't and out and they'll pick

568
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 5: the right guy for us. And like you guys, I

569
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Speaker 5: love that safety out at USC. It's tough not having

570
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Speaker 5: a third round, but it's interesting this guy from the

571
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Speaker 5: Chargers is going to come visit because I've been thinking

572
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Speaker 5: a lot about the interior line and the two biggest

573
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Speaker 5: people that I know about in the interior line are

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Speaker 5: the kid in Texas, Defandre Sweat and Mason Smith. And

575
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 5: the two draft magazines are opposite on them. One of

576
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Speaker 5: them has one of them rated a lot higher than

577
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Speaker 5: the other and the other one reversed, and they're both

578
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Speaker 5: very interesting. They're big, big men, and I just kind

579
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Speaker 5: of wondered if you guys have looked at those two

580
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Speaker 5: guys and what your thoughts are about one or both

581
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 5: of them relatives who also I love the idea that

582
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Speaker 5: our line has been built with first and second round

583
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 5: picks AJ and Rousseau and Ed Oliver, And if we

584
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Speaker 5: go get the right big guy in there to play

585
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 5: next to Oliver for the next five or six years,

586
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Speaker 5: that'd be pretty cool. So that's my question. Thanks for

587
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 5: everything to do. I'm really interested in your answer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, Mike. I did take a look at defensive

589
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 2: tackles knowing it was a position of need. I actually

590
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Speaker 2: like Byron Murphy ATXA is better than to and Andre Sweat.

591
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: But for a three hundred and sixty two pounds man,

592
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 2: the guy's pretty nimble. I remember watching his tape, and

593
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: you don't see three hundred and sixty three hundred and

594
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: sixty two pound defensive tackle Steve avoid cut blocks very well.

595
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: I watched him leap over three of them in three

596
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: games of tape, and I was like, holy cow, Like,

597
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Speaker 2: you're not used to seeing a guy put his hands

598
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: down on the on the offensive lineman and then clear

599
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 2: him like a hurdle at three hundred and sixty two pounds,

600
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Speaker 2: but I watched him do it multiple times. The other

601
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: thing with big men like that is you rarely see

602
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: them disengage and make a play. They're usually just leaning

603
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 2: on the guy and then just fall on top of

604
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 2: whoever the ball carrier is. This guy can disengage as well.

605
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: He swallows running backs when he gets his hands on him.

606
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Speaker 2: He is that massive, strong hands keep offensive line and

607
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: off his frame. I like his He's got a good

608
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 2: slap move swim move to get into the offensive backfield.

609
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Speaker 2: I thought from twenty twenty two to twenty twenty three

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Speaker 2: he took a step as a pass rusher. I don't

611
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Speaker 2: think he's ever going to be a dominant pass rusher.

612
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: He's big, but he's not super quick. But I thought

613
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Speaker 2: he took a step in his ability as a pass rusher.

614
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: Pushed the pocket a lot more as a senior. He's

615
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: got a one arm stab move that is impressive where

616
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 2: he just walks guards and centers back. I mean he

617
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: looks like a bouncer in a bar, like you're not

618
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: coming in the bar tonight. That's what he does with

619
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Speaker 2: guards and centers with a one arm stab move, and

620
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Speaker 2: he gets his hands up when he knows he can't

621
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Speaker 2: get to the quarterback gets his hands up. He has

622
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Speaker 2: batted down passes and wait are you ready for this one, Steve.

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Speaker 2: I'm watching his Oklahoma State tape Texas against Oklahoma State.

624
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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, he's in the offensive formation, eligible receiver,

625
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: catches a touchdown pass six ' four, three hundred and

626
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Speaker 2: sixty two pounds went into the end zone. Murphy, No,

627
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Speaker 2: this is to Andandre Sweat. It's a big guy that Mike.

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Speaker 2: Mike's talking about from Batavia. Touchdown pass against Oklahoma State.

629
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Speaker 2: So an uncommon athlete for a man his size. He's

630
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Speaker 2: you want a big space eater, that's what you want.

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Speaker 2: If you want to penetrating three technique. Byron Murphy's your guy.

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Speaker 2: I think he's gonna go in the mid teens in

633
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Speaker 2: round one. Byron Murphy.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing too. The to Andandre Sweat some of

635
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Speaker 1: the one I'm looking at has him rated as the

636
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Speaker 1: top defensive tackle overall. He's not gonna be there at

637
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Speaker 1: twenty eight if he's that, he just won't. He's three.

638
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Speaker 1: He's listed here three sixty six, Yeah, three hundred and

639
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Speaker 1: sixty six pound.

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Speaker 2: But I'll tell you he carries it well because he's thick.

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Speaker 1: We're watching him here everywhere. We're talking to you like

642
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: on the radio. But we're watching him right now run

643
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Speaker 1: his forty at the comm.

644
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Speaker 2: And okay, I mean he didn't run like Jordan Davis

645
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 2: did you know last year or two years ago out

646
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Speaker 2: of Georgia. But for a three hundred and sixty two

647
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: pound man, he's moving.

648
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Speaker 1: Yeah, six four three and he's and this has got

649
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Speaker 1: him listed as a three technique. That's a little that's

650
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: a little wide. I think he's more. He's almost built

651
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 1: really more like a nose tackle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got to play one tech.

653
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: He's big, he's a he's just massive. Now you're right,

654
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 1: you say he's three sixty six. He didn't look three sixties.

655
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: He didn't look it doesn't move like now all those

656
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: guys wiggle a little bit when they walk, you know.

657
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 2: Uh.

658
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 1: But but he he's an athlete, Yes, he is an athlete,

659
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: even at three sixty six. So the problem is, like

660
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: we said, I like my it's my belief. He is

661
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: not going to be there at twenty eight.

662
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 2: Oh you think he goes before that? I thought, I

663
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 2: don't know about that.

664
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 1: If he's the number. If if because here's the thing, thirty,

665
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some teams that you know, Yeah, he's

666
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: he's Okay, he's got problem whatever, whatever, They're not gonna

667
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: love him that much. But for thirty two teams, there's

668
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: gonna be a handful that say that's the guy.

669
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: Because I mean the defensive tackles that are getting all

670
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 2: the love are the three technique guys, Johnny Newton, Byron Murphy,

671
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 2: his teammate of Texas. Those are the guys getting a

672
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 2: lot of the love. Even Chris Jenkins as a second

673
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: round pick, the Michigan kid who's the son Chris Jenkins.

674
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 2: And then Brayden Fisk is another guy that's getting a

675
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 2: lot of love as well, after the way he tested

676
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 2: at the Combine sixty three two ninety five penetrating type player,

677
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: the space eaters tend to fall down the board a

678
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 2: little bit further now I know. Mike also asked about

679
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 2: Mason Smith six six three point fifteen LSU jersey number zero.

680
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: I watched him as well. He looks like a defensive tackle,

681
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: but I wasn't impressed with his tape past year because

682
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 2: it didn't seem to have burst, not a lot of technique,

683
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 2: not a lot of penetration, and not a lot of

684
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: disruption of pass plays. Well, then I dug into it

685
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 2: a little deeper. I found out he had an ACL

686
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 2: injury late in his twenty twenty two season, and this

687
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 2: year he didn't look like the same player to me. Basically,

688
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 2: he was getting stonewalled on every pass rush at the

689
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. Now I don't have to talk to you.

690
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 2: You know a lot more about this about clearing the

691
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 2: mental hurdle of having a major injury, especially when you're

692
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 2: playing down inside where all that junk's going on, like

693
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 2: you're worried about somebody taking your knee out getting reinjury.

694
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: Running is different than pushing, you know, or bracing you know.

695
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: It's a and it's a different adjustment mentally, just getting

696
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: out there and running. The hard part about getting over

697
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: a big time knee injury is it's weird but to

698
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: say it, but you feel and I felt like this

699
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: late in my career, when I was least in the

700
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: least amount of pain was when I was running as

701
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: fast as I could run sprinting. It hurt when you started,

702
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: and it hurt when you slowed down and stopped. That's

703
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: kind of the adjustments you got to make getting over

704
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: the process of a major injury. So yeah, it'll take

705
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: some time, and this guy Murph, he may have a

706
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: big upside.

707
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 2: Mason Smith.

708
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: Mason Smith, he may have a huge upside, but that

709
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: he comes back. But that's you don't know, right.

710
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 2: But to Mike's point, this is what the teams. This

711
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 2: is where the teams do that investigative work that we

712
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: don't have the ability to do, where they can feel

713
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 2: him out, sit him down in a room and say,

714
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 2: how did you feel on the field last year coming

715
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 2: back from the ACL injury. Do you think you're capable

716
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 2: of being the player you were before the injury? How

717
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 2: do you look at your pro career knowing you didn't

718
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 2: perform up to your expectations your last year at LSU,

719
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 2: Because I can tell you I'd find it hard to

720
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 2: believe he was satisfied with his last year at LSU

721
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,959
Speaker 2: coming off the ACL injury because he did not look

722
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: like the same player. So as a scout, you've got

723
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: a number one like what you saw on tape before

724
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 2: the injury, and then number two believe he's got the

725
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 2: intestinal fortitude to be that player again at a higher

726
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 2: level of football. If you believe all of those things,

727
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 2: you like him. I'm just gonna tell you I like

728
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 2: his teammate better than him. I like Mackay Wingo. He's

729
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 2: a little short, he's six ' one two ninety five,

730
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 2: jersey number ninety two. But he transferred in from Missouri.

731
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: This guy, they lined him up all up and down

732
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage. He played end, he played under tackle.

733
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 2: They even put him on the nose sometimes. And this

734
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 2: guy is a loose athlete who can play.

735
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 1: Right.

736
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: It depends what you need. I'll say this, you need

737
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 2: a plugger, you know, maybe a lean towards to and

738
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 2: Andre Sweat and Mason Smith.

739
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: Mason Smith is the kind of guy too that we

740
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: always talk about him people. He's the exact guy you

741
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: want to see at the combine. So they can get

742
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: their doctors in to look at him. Yeah, and they'll say, no,

743
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: his nie stable, he's gonna be fine. He's probably gonna

744
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: get better, and daddayadayada. And then you sit down and

745
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: talk to him, say what happened to with you and

746
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 1: your kne how do you feel about how to go?

747
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: And you talk to this coach you know. Then later

748
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: you go to talk to the coaching staff at LSU,

749
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: say hey about what about Mason?

750
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 7: How was he?

751
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: And they and a lot of times they rave about

752
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: the guy or not they know, but at least you

753
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: talk to people who've been around the kid. Uh. So

754
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: that's because here's why, and here's why Mason Smith is

755
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: the guy that teams talk about inside the building not

756
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: outside the building, because this is a guy that may

757
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: be like an all pro type of player that you're

758
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 1: gonna get for a second round pick or later because

759
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: you did the work.

760
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 2: On him, and you're everybody else is scared off by

761
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 2: everybody else is like, I.

762
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: Don't know, the guy didn't really play that well, you know,

763
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: all the superficial and they're there are teams out there

764
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: like that who don't dive in like that either because

765
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: it's not a position of need for them to a

766
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: medical risk whatever. Yeah, all of this stuff. So this

767
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: is the kind of guy exactly why you go in

768
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: and when he comes out, team gets him and they're like,

769
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 1: you know, two years down the line or three years

770
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: down the line, are going, he's a third rounder? What

771
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 1: were they thinking?

772
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 2: How did they miss on him?

773
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 1: Right? So this is where this is where teams like Buttle,

774
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, Brandon Bean and all these guys and all

775
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: these other gms make their bones on these lower mid

776
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: round draft picks because they get these guys that have

777
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: for some reason or other been taking off the board

778
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: of other teams or at least moved down so far

779
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: they don't like them, so that this is you're right,

780
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a fun and you know, Mike

781
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: and Batavia, who gets the magazines or this's why it's

782
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: kind of cool? Is fun? You from us? You know,

783
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: me and Brownie sitting here even in the building, we're

784
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: a million miles away from this. But you can pick

785
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 1: guys and you think, yeah, I think that guy's got

786
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: and then you know, you get proven right and you

787
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: can like, you know what beats your chest over it? Yeah? Okay,

788
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: nobody cares.

789
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, which free agent signing or re signing will have

790
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 2: the biggest impact on the Bills in the twenty twenty

791
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: four season. You let us know what ado three oh

792
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: five fifty one eighty eight, five fifty two, five point fifty,

793
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: that's the number to get on board. Got open lines

794
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 2: for you and more of your phone calls. Next here

795
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 2: on one Bill's Live. Stay tuned all right back here

796
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 2: on one Bill's Live, Chris Brown Steve Tasker with you

797
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 2: and asking you today which free agent signing or resigning,

798
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 2: we'll have the biggest impact in twenty twenty four. Eight

799
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 2: oh three oh five fifty one eight eight eight five

800
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 2: fifty two, five fifty the number to get on board.

801
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 2: And we go to Jym in Orchard Park. Next. What's up, Jim?

802
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 8: Yeah, how are you John Van doing?

803
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 5: You're all right?

804
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 8: Listen. I'm uh, I'm the draft. I don't know if

805
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 8: you saw the News about three or maybe three months ago.

806
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 8: Front page of the News had a big article on Sweat.

807
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, and.

808
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 8: His coach said that he was equivalent to Ted Washington

809
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 8: as far as his ability and what he reminded us above.

810
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 8: And I know that Steve was always hot on Washington,

811
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 8: and I just wondered what your opinion is.

812
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I don't know that much about de Andre

813
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: Sweat except for what you know we've seen here on

814
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: the show and all of that. It's hard. You know,

815
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: I didn't go to Texas and I've never even seen

816
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: him play live or anything like, so I'll disqualify myself

817
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: from that. But let me say this, if he is

818
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: like Ted Washington, draft him as fast as you can

819
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: draft him.

820
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: Ted Washington was a late first round pick of the

821
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 2: Fan Francis and they let him go.

822
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,760
Speaker 1: He played out there. I'll give you the whole story

823
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: that I know, and I could be mistaken on some

824
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: of this, but the way I understand it, had Ted

825
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: got drafted by San Francis, got a foot injury early

826
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: in his in his career, like in his first year,

827
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: and tried to play, tried to play hard through it,

828
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: but really struggled to do it. Wade Wade Phillips was

829
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator or one of the coaches there in

830
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: San Francisco at the time, and he knew Ted was hurting.

831
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: But Ted tried to play and gutted it out and

832
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: was on the field and gave it everything he had

833
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: and tried to play through the injury.

834
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 2: He had him in Denver, so her Cisco got released,

835
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: went to Denver, went to da Wade.

836
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: Wade had him in Denver because of the fact that

837
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 1: he had played hard in San fran hurt, right, So

838
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: then Wade comes to Buffalo and gets him here. And

839
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: of course, you know, for those of you who don't know,

840
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: Ted Washington was a noseguard who a dude here in

841
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: Buffalo through it. I think he played sixteen years. At

842
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: nineteen years which is a testament to the man's abilities

843
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: physical abilities. I don't think he ever. I think one

844
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: the things I heard about Ted was he never in

845
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: his career in nineteen years, ever played on a defense

846
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: that was outside the top five against the run. And

847
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 1: it was him, right. The dude was absolutely immovable, one

848
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: of the most elite big men athletes you will ever

849
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: come across. He was an absolute stud. And it's it's

850
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: sad too. A guy like Ted really should have been,

851
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: should be more in the consideration for a player like

852
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame. Ye, a guy who plays nineteen

853
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: years where he played and was just as good as

854
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: he was. The problem with Ted, and what I've been

855
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 1: told about his candidacy as a Hall of Famer is

856
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: because he didn't rush the passer. Okay, let's see you

857
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: you can't run on him. But Ted Washington was the

858
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: reason every team in the league had to throw when

859
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: you played Buffalo, because you could not run the ball one.

860
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: And so you know, for that, he's always kind of

861
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 1: a little bit overlooked, and you know he as a

862
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: as a truly great player. But I'm telling you what,

863
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 1: Ted was an absolute man among boys in a league

864
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:20,720
Speaker 1: full of big strong, physical elite athletes. Ted stood alone.

865
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: He was an amazing physical specimen. Great dude, too, great teammate.

866
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: Just so, if if there's a kid here in this

867
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: draft named Devandre Sweat, Devandre Sweat, who is in that ballpark,

868
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 1: you need to get that guy on your team because

869
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: that is Ted Washington. You can't there. I'll say this,

870
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: There may be in the history of the National Football

871
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: League no better run defender than Ted Washington's. So yeah,

872
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: and that and I get it too. You want to

873
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: give a sense of where this Tevandre Sweat may land

874
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: and what his strengths and weaknesses are. Say he say, well,

875
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: he's a little bit he's like a Ted Washington. Okay,

876
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: all right, I get that, but it'll be a minute

877
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: before I put him in that conversation.

878
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm watching it, but that's it.

879
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 1: That's it though. If tv Andre Sweat's kind of that

880
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,959
Speaker 1: kind of guy. Six four, that's what Ted was listed.

881
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 2: Ted was six ' four and well, and they listed

882
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 2: Ted at three twenty five.

883
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,959
Speaker 1: His weight was a was a matter of debate, no question,

884
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: he was more like three to eighty. But man, oh man,

885
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: he was an athlete at that weight. So yeah, that

886
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: good for him. I wish TeV Andre Sweat all the

887
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: success in the world. And let me tell you something,

888
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: most of these guys in this draft would cut off

889
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: their little finger to have half of Ted Washington's career,

890
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: let alone all nineteen years of it.

891
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 2: So yeah, it'd be interesting. That's high praise. I might

892
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 2: need to see a little more from Sweat before I

893
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 2: put him in that category, because, like I said, I

894
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 2: haven't seen a run defender better than.

895
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: To wait, nobody's seen one like that. So you know

896
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: there are great pass rushers there, but you talk about

897
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: a run defender and there ain't nobody but Ted.

898
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 2: So Sweat is projected, by the way, is a Day

899
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 2: two pick.

900
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 1: And most people, well we've all heard the stories too.

901
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: Of these scouts spend their whole careers scouring you know,

902
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: backwater schools and gyms and you know, street hoops games.

903
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: And they went over and I and I saw a

904
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 1: guy I heard he could get a lift the front

905
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: end of a car, and not ice. They go out

906
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: and they look for all these guys. They're looking for

907
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: guys like Ted, so good luck. Yeah, so we'll see,

908
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: certainly the guy's got a pro body at six four

909
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: three sixty six. He's listed a lot of times. Those

910
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 1: guys have a hard time controlling their weight and staying

911
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: athletic enough. Other times they don't.

912
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, gotta take a break here because when we come

913
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 2: back our number two, we'll begin with NFL writer from

914
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 2: the thirty third team and analyst Mark Mosher, gonna go

915
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 2: over some free agency doings. He has overrated and underrated

916
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 2: free agent additions. There is a former Bill on one

917
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 2: of those lists. We'll tell you who when we return here.

918
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Speaker 2: All One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health. It's Buffalo

919
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 2: Bill's Radio.

920
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: This One Bills Live presented by Calllida Health.

921
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 2: All Right, our number two here on a Wednesday, Chris Brown,

922
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you. Welcome to a Wednesday edition of

923
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Speaker 2: One Bills Live. Please to be joined now by NFL

924
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Speaker 2: writer and analyst for the thirty third team. It's Marcus

925
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 2: Mosher joining us here on the show. And Marcus, thanks

926
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Speaker 2: for the time. First and foremost, you've had some interesting

927
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 2: pieces up on the thirty third team. The one I

928
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 2: probably enjoyed the most of the bunch is the players

929
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 2: that you felt were good deals, and then the five

930
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 2: players who got overpaid this year. And there are two

931
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 2: former Bills on your top five list, one of which

932
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 2: is Devin Singletary, who last year in free agency signs

933
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 2: a one year deal with Houston and then this year

934
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 2: hits the veritable jackpot for a player of his caliber

935
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 2: in my estimation. And I don't know if Joe and

936
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 2: Brian Dabele were nostalgic from their days together in Buffalo

937
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 2: or what it was, but a three year, sixteen and

938
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 2: a half million dollar deal for Singletary shocked me.

939
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, it shocked me too.

940
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 9: Singletary had a really nice year with the Texans, but

941
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 9: he was brought in to be a complimentary back to

942
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 9: play with Damian Pierce beat him out, and I listen,

943
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 9: I just think he deserved a pay raise, But for

944
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 9: the Giants to give him that much guaranteed money that

945
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 9: early in free agency felt like an overpay. I know

946
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 9: Devin Singletary is a good player, but this was a

947
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 9: really good running back class. I'm not sure he deserved

948
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:39,760
Speaker 9: that big of a payday.

949
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: Right, nine and a half million dollars guaranteed over three years.

950
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: It is a big number. I'll say this though, and

951
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: people in Buffalo will know this too. One of the

952
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: things about free agency. You get these guys you don't

953
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: know if you know what kind of guy they are.

954
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: Devin Single, it doesn't matter if it was a one

955
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: year dealer or a five year dealer or a lifetime contract.

956
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: He's gonna play hard every snap. That's kind of guy

957
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 1: he is. So they know that at least they're gonna

958
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: get a full effort every snap from Devin Singletary. So

959
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 1: that the guaranteed money is one thing, But fifteen million

960
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: bucks over three years is a lot of money for

961
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: a like we say, he's just a guy, and.

962
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 2: He's twenty seven already, so he'll be over twenty eight

963
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 2: by the time he gets to the end of it.

964
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 6: In a huge workload in college.

965
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 9: We always worry about these players wearing down once they

966
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 9: get to their second Now, Devin thing Singletary's third contract.

967
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 9: I also think he's a player that you want to

968
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 9: pair with a little bit of a bigger running back

969
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 9: that can do some of the bruising inside for a

970
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 9: player that I'm not sure is a three down, every

971
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 9: down back that you can give three hundred touches to.

972
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 6: I thought the Giants overpaid a little bit here, and.

973
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 2: Then the other Bills player or former Bills player who

974
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 2: made this list was Gabe Davis, who went to Jacksonville.

975
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 2: We assume there was gonna be somebody out there in

976
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 2: free agency that was going to price him too rich

977
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 2: for Buffalo's blood to have a chance to bring him back,

978
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 2: especially with Buffalo's cap constraints. That proved to be the case.

979
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 2: Thirteen million a year for Gabe, you know, who's never

980
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 2: had a fifty catch season as a number two wide

981
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 2: out with one of the best quarterbacks in football, not

982
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 2: to mention the fact a career catch rate of fifty

983
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 2: three percent, It just I felt like he got overvalued.

984
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

985
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 9: I think Gabe Davis is a good player, and in

986
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 9: the right offense, with the right scheme, he can be

987
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 9: a very useful player. But now Jacksonville is paying him

988
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 9: to be essentially one of the top number two receivers

989
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 9: in the league. He just hasn't proven to be that

990
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 9: reliable receiver that you can trust in big moments.

991
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 6: Again, I like Gabe Davis, but.

992
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 9: When you're losing Calvin Ridley and replacing him with Gabe

993
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 9: Davis on this pretty big deal thought that was a

994
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 9: pretty significant downgrade for Jacksonville.

995
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: And again once again on the top overpaid guys in

996
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 1: free agency of the early at least at this early going.

997
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 1: You also had Joe Mixon on there with Devin Singletary

998
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: and the running and you know we heard about the

999
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley thing, Derrek Henry move teams, Josh Jacobs and

1000
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: all these guys have shuffled around in your mind, are

1001
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: is there a level of running back in the NFL

1002
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: right now who does command top dollar and can earn

1003
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: it that kind of thing? It seems elusive at best.

1004
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: Certainly is Christian McCaffrey would probably be the closest thing

1005
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: to a guy who's at least pushing the envelope of

1006
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: earning a huge contract that he's been paid. But man,

1007
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: oh man, it doesn't seem like there's that many guys

1008
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: that teams rely on that much.

1009
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 9: No, there's only a handful of those running backs out there.

1010
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 9: They've got to land in the right situation. I think

1011
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 9: they have to be relatively young. And that's why I

1012
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 9: think we saw some of the running backs in the

1013
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 9: market get paid this year. Because you had a Josh

1014
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 9: Jacobs who was going into year six, who doesn't have

1015
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 9: a ton of wear and tear on his body, same

1016
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 9: for Tony Pollard. Both those guys got pretty nice deals.

1017
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 9: But you look at somebody like Joe Mixon.

1018
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 6: Who the Bengals were ready to outright cut him.

1019
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 9: Because they signed Zach Moss, another former Buffalo Bill. They

1020
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 9: thought Zach Moss was an upgrade at this stage of

1021
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 9: his career. They bring in Zach Moss, they trade Joe

1022
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 9: Mixon to the Texans, and then the Texans reward Joe

1023
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 9: Mixon with thirteen million guaranteed.

1024
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 6: That just doesn't make any sense to me.

1025
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 9: But to answer your question, yeah, I think there's four

1026
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 9: or five of those guys in the league that I

1027
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 9: think are worthy of a big second.

1028
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 6: Contract, But man, it's not very many. There's only again,

1029
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 6: only a couple of them.

1030
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 2: Right in your latest mock draft. There's probably a lot

1031
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 2: of Bills fans who are on the receiver train who

1032
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 2: are not going to be happy with how quickly you

1033
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 2: have the top four or five receivers coming off the

1034
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 2: board in round one. I mean, I think you have

1035
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 2: them just about all gone by the time you get

1036
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 2: to pick eighteen, because you have ad nin Mitchell going

1037
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 2: to the Jaguars at seventeen, and the cupboards pretty much

1038
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 2: bear at that point, and you've got the Bills taking

1039
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 2: Darius Robinson, the versatile defensive lineman from Missouri. First, Why

1040
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 2: do you see the receiver run kind of being completed

1041
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 2: before you even get to pick twenty? What gives you

1042
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 2: that thought?

1043
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, So the top three receivers in this class, Marvin

1044
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 9: Harrison Junior, malink neighbors Romadonze. I think all those guys

1045
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 9: go inside the top ten picks, and I think there's

1046
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:34,919
Speaker 9: a good chance that they all go inside the top

1047
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 9: eight picks, So they're kind of out of the equation

1048
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 9: for Buffalo. And the next two guys, Brian Thomas and

1049
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 9: ad Mitchell. These are both six foot three receivers that

1050
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 9: ran in the low four threes at the NFL combine.

1051
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 9: Those type of guys just don't last very long in

1052
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:55,240
Speaker 9: the NFL draft. And you mentioned Jacksonville selecting Ady Mitchell.

1053
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 9: Now that Calvin Ridley's gone, I think they need to

1054
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 9: look for a number one type of receiver. I think

1055
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 9: that's why it makes a lot of sense there. I

1056
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 9: think in an ideal world, Buffalo would love to be

1057
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 9: able to draft the receiver in round one, but I

1058
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 9: also don't think they're going to reach for a Lad

1059
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 9: McConkey or Xavier Worthy or Kean Coleman. I think they're

1060
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 9: just gonna sit pick the best player available and then

1061
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 9: maybe look.

1062
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 6: To add a receiver on day two.

1063
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 9: I do think the additions of Curtis Samuel mac hollins

1064
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 9: and then hopefully the development of Khalish Kirr well maybe

1065
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 9: make it where they don't feel like they have to

1066
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 9: push the wide receiver need way up.

1067
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: How do you how high do you think and what

1068
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: kind of position runs are they going to be in

1069
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: this draft? Do you anticipate? Like, so there's some people

1070
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: saying four quarterbacks off the board in the top four

1071
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: or five picks, you know it's gonna be some bunch

1072
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: of offensive tackles taken, some edge guys. I mean, what

1073
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: kind of And you're now you're telling me two, three

1074
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: or four wide receivers in the top ten. It's it's

1075
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: a The draft is all about picking money positions and

1076
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,919
Speaker 1: getting guys who you can have cheap lay at really

1077
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: key positions. And that puts you know, that puts quarterbacks,

1078
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 1: wide receivers, edge rushers, tackle offensive tackles right up there

1079
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: at the top of the draft. Whether they deserve to

1080
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: be or not.

1081
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 9: I think there's a really good chance that in the

1082
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 9: top ten of this draft it's only quarterbacks, wide receivers,

1083
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 9: and offensive tackles coming off the board. I think there's

1084
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 9: a really good chance we don't get a defensive player

1085
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 9: drafted until pick twelve or maybe pick thirteen with the

1086
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 9: Raiders there maybe looking at cornerbacks. So yeah, teams are

1087
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 9: hunting those money five positions, and this class is loaded

1088
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 9: with top bend talent. So if you're drafting at the

1089
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 9: back end of the first round, are you willing to

1090
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 9: maybe draft the sixth or seventh wide receiver off the board,

1091
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 9: or are you more willing to draft maybe the second

1092
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 9: defensive lineman or maybe the third edge rusher. That's why

1093
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 9: it's going to be really critical for these teams to

1094
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 9: stack their boards the right way to make sure that

1095
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 9: they're not just over valuing players money five positions.

1096
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 2: So there is a natural pivot point there at the

1097
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 2: top of the draft, Marcus, you know pick four with Arizona,

1098
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 2: who also has pick twenty seven, I want to say,

1099
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 2: and then obviously Minnesota's put themselves in a position to

1100
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 2: move up the board. Chargers at five could be another

1101
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 2: spot where a team could be looking to move out.

1102
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 2: Who do you think is more likely to move out there,

1103
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 2: Arizona or la.

1104
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 1: Oh.

1105
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 9: The Chargers have been shopping that pick since the NFL combine.

1106
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 9: I mean they've been telling everybody to come up and

1107
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 9: get this number five pick. If you want to get

1108
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 9: JJ McCarthy, the fourth quarterback from Michigan, come to our

1109
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 9: spot and come get him. So I won't be surprised

1110
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 9: if we get a trade for the number five pick

1111
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 9: before the draft starts. But I don't think that's going

1112
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 9: to be the only trade inside the top seven or

1113
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 9: eight picks. I fully expect a lot of movement because

1114
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 9: there are so many elite prospects in this class. There

1115
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 9: are four quarterbacks that are worthy of a top ten pick.

1116
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 9: Like we said, the top three receivers in this class.

1117
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 9: I think any of the three could be a number

1118
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 9: one receiver in any other draft. So expect the Chargers

1119
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 9: to potentially be on the move. Look that the Falcons

1120
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 9: and now that they got their quarterback, to want to

1121
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 9: trade down. I won't be surprised if we see teams

1122
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 9: in the teams or even in the twenties, try to

1123
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:19,959
Speaker 9: go way up.

1124
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 6: To get one of these elite prospects.

1125
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm kind of with you. I think that's an

1126
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: interesting look. We hadn't talked about that, about having only

1127
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and wide receivers taken in the top ten, it

1128
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: would be an unprecedented trend. I'm kind of with you.

1129
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: Maybe offensive tackles sprinkled in there as well. Do you

1130
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: think that's a reflection now of the evolution because the

1131
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 1: league gets so difficult to play defense in the league anyway,

1132
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 1: The Kansas City Chiefs win the go to and win

1133
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl with like three rookies playing in their secondary,

1134
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: and then they do it again the next year with

1135
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 1: second year players in their secondary. Is that concerning to you?

1136
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 2: You in a little bit.

1137
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 9: I also just think this draft is really strong at

1138
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 9: some really important positions, and that's why they're being valued

1139
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 9: that highly. I also think there's a lot of teams

1140
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 9: in the NFL. You go through the depth charts, there's

1141
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 9: just a lot of teams that need wide receiver help,

1142
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 9: and Buffalo is one of them. All of these teams

1143
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 9: that have young quarterbacks are trying to surround them with

1144
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 9: a bunch of talent. Look at what Chicago's trying to

1145
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 9: do with Caleb Williams, who they're going.

1146
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 6: To draft at number one.

1147
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 9: I think the wide receiver need across the NFL is

1148
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 9: pretty strong. You can look at twenty to twenty five

1149
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 9: teams that all have at least some sort of need,

1150
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 9: and I do think that's why we're seeing so many

1151
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 9: of these receivers mocked.

1152
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 2: In Round one. Marcus, thanks much for the time. We

1153
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 2: appreciate it. We'll catch up with you on down the

1154
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 2: line here in the offseason, of course. Thanks guys. All right,

1155
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 2: that's Marcus Mosher joining us NFL writer and analyst for

1156
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,439
Speaker 2: the thirty third team kind of breaking down some free

1157
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 2: agency so you can check out his work there at

1158
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 2: the thirty third team dot com. Yeah, I mean, I

1159
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 2: I thought Devin Singletary was overpaid. I thought he was

1160
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 2: gonna get a one year deal. He gets a three year,

1161
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 2: sixteen and a half million dollar deal from the Giants,

1162
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 2: and you know, great for him, more power to him.

1163
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 2: It was perplexing for me. I thought Gabe Davis would

1164
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 2: get paid big money by somebody if they expect him

1165
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 2: to be a number two and catch sixty to seventy balls.

1166
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 2: I just don't know if that's going to come to.

1167
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: Can catch sixty or sixty to seventy balls, but you're

1168
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 1: gonna have to give him one hundred and fifty targets.

1169
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that's and that's based on his career catcher.

1170
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: That's a lot of that's a lot of throws.

1171
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's it's just interesting to see how the

1172
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 2: value can fluctuate from one team to another and how

1173
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 2: much a team might covet somebody over another team. It's

1174
01:02:58,160 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 2: eye opening sometimes it is.

1175
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 1: And this it's the draft. It every draft is different.

1176
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: Just like Mark Mosher just told us, he goes, this

1177
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: is a this is a very elite draft at the

1178
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: top of some money positions would tackle with quarterback, with

1179
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: wide receiver. But you also and you don't want to overgeneralize,

1180
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: but I'll never I can't get over the fact that

1181
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: the league, and we've seen it for years, it's harder

1182
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 1: and harder to play defense. You know, it takes It

1183
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 1: takes the NFL's during the regular season, takes them a

1184
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: month to get used to tackling again because they haven't

1185
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 1: been able to do it until the season begins in

1186
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 1: training camp and start having padded practices, and you got

1187
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 1: to play in games before you can tackle. So it's

1188
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: it's it's just hard to play defense, and the rules,

1189
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: the way the games are called, it's all about offense, offense, offense, offense, offense.

1190
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 1: And more so than that, now they're gonna yet another

1191
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 1: tackling technique is going to be outlawed this year, the

1192
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 1: hip drop tackle, which is a little little bit akin

1193
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 1: to the horse collar. It's just, you know, you it's

1194
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 1: almost like you can't tackle a guy from behind anymore.

1195
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 1: So I think we're in an arms race. We've said

1196
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 1: it since the end of last season. It's an arms race.

1197
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: It's an offensive league. So i'm you think about it.

1198
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 1: If you're not gonna get pass rushers and corners, who

1199
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Speaker 1: who you gonna draft? Who cares? Linebackers are built like

1200
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 1: safeties because they got to run and cover. They don't

1201
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 1: have to step up and tackle anymore. It's a it's

1202
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 1: an evolving league, and I don't know where it's headed

1203
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: or where it's gonna end. I still know it's the

1204
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: best thing on TV. Huh, Right, So people they ain't

1205
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 1: gonna think they're gonna change because I'm sentimental about you know,

1206
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 1: clotheslining people. You know, you know he cares, right, So

1207
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 1: give me a wonderful image there, right, So I don't

1208
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: know this, and the draft, I think is a symptom.

1209
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 1: And you why teams pick, what team's value, what teams

1210
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 1: look for. I think it's a symptom of where the

1211
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 1: league's headed, and words come.

1212
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 2: Which free agents signing or re signing by the Bills

1213
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 2: will have the biggest impact on their fortunes in twenty

1214
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 2: twenty four. You let us know at eight h three

1215
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 2: oh five fifty one eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

1216
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 2: Let's go to Tim and Charlotte next. What's up Tim?

1217
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 10: Hey, guys, appreciate you having me on. I just had

1218
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 10: a quick question and it kind of sparked when you

1219
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 10: were just talking to that special guest last session there.

1220
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 10: Do you think it's a little bit easier to sell

1221
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 10: this year as opposed to years past, for Brandon Bean

1222
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 10: to talk undrafted free agents in the coming here, just

1223
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 10: because of the caliber of where you know the team

1224
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 10: has been the past couple of years. They're always right

1225
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 10: in the thick of it. And then again, you have

1226
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 10: a better chance in my opinion, and you can tell

1227
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 10: me if you think otherwise. But I think those bottom

1228
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 10: tier guys who aren't drafted have a little bit better

1229
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 10: chance of making the roster in years past. And like

1230
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 10: I said, I just want to get your thoughts on it,

1231
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 10: and I'll hang up and listen to thanks.

1232
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think both those things are true.

1233
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 2: I would be inclined to agree with that. Also, I

1234
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 2: think here's the caveat to that sentiment. If the Bills

1235
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 2: end up keeping almost all of the eleven picks they

1236
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 2: currently possess. Let's remember half of the eleven are in

1237
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 2: the sixth and seventh rounds. They have three picks in

1238
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 2: the sixth, two in the seventh. If all five of

1239
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 2: those picks are used in their current locations, you could

1240
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 2: argue that you already have pretty close to six undrafted

1241
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 2: players already trying to make your roster. So to then

1242
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 2: sign another ten or twelve, which they may need to

1243
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 2: do just to have ninety bodies on the offseason roster,

1244
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 2: I don't know if it makes the task any easier

1245
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 2: for them to make the roster if you have sixth

1246
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 2: and seventh round picks trying to do the same exact thing,

1247
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 2: because the separation between those fifteen some odd players might

1248
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 2: not be great, but they might be draft choices. Nonetheless,

1249
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 2: I mean not that the Bills lean in favor of

1250
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 2: a draft choice over an undrafted player. They're going to

1251
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 2: take the better player, whoever it is. That's just the

1252
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 2: way they operate.

1253
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 1: Yes, And the fact about Buffalo being an easier sell

1254
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 1: to free agents coming in because they're gonna be in

1255
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 1: the conversation for the championship begaining, yes, that is true,

1256
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 1: but it won't be true and it won't have an

1257
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 1: effect on the players until now, until the second wave

1258
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 1: of free agency, when guys are like now, they're just

1259
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 1: gonna take whatever offer they can get. Certainly at the

1260
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 1: front part of free agency, it's about the money. These

1261
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: guys are gonna take the biggest check. You think Gabe

1262
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 1: Davis really cared whether it was Jacksonville or Tampa, or

1263
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 1: Kansas City or Arizona. He didn't care. It was the

1264
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 1: biggest check was gonna get him the money. And that's

1265
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 1: what free agency is about for players. Now Now that

1266
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 1: we're into the point where now we're just unemployed and

1267
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 1: I haven't taken a trip, and I've got any new offers,

1268
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 1: and I know what I'm kind of worth, and the

1269
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 1: market's kind of taking shape, and training camp's bearing down

1270
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 1: on us all of a sudden, I'm looking for a place. Well,

1271
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna go play and they're all virtually the

1272
01:07:56,080 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 1: same money, I'm going to the place where I got

1273
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 1: a chance at the ring, right.

1274
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 2: And that's what may work against the Bills and trying

1275
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 2: to recruit undrafted rookie free agents, because the undrafted kids

1276
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 2: are looking to find the best place where they have

1277
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 2: a chance to make the roster. That hasn't been Buffalo

1278
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 2: in recent years. They've watched late round draft picks not

1279
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 2: make the fifty three. Forget about undrafted guys. So if

1280
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 2: you're an undrafted player in this year's cycle, your agent

1281
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:26,560
Speaker 2: might be telling you, look, it's it's pretty tough to

1282
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 2: make that roster up in Buffalo. We might want you

1283
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 2: to go here where this roster is a little thinner.

1284
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 2: If there is anything that might prove more difficult for

1285
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 2: Brandon being to recruit, it's undrafted players because it's very

1286
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 2: hard for them to make this club.

1287
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 1: And everybody's different. Every guy's different. There's a ton there's

1288
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 1: a thousand different scenarios that we can talk about. Oh,

1289
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 1: there's a every player's different. So you know you're talking

1290
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 1: about a kid if he's got too. And it's at

1291
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 1: the end of it where these rookie free agents are

1292
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 1: trying to sign. It's about who's actually even talking to

1293
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Speaker 1: me because not everybody will. And this team's off literally, Brownie,

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01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 1: it's like, this team's offered me five grand more than

1295
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 1: that team, Right, that's it.

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Speaker 2: And there's some kids that have the attitude of I

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01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 2: don't care how hard it is to make it, I'm

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01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 2: going there anyway. I'm gonna make that team.

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Speaker 1: Watch. Yeah. Yeah, there's those kind of people with that

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01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 1: kind of attitude, and that's fine, that's and good for them,

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01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 1: But it's still gonna be hard to make that club.

1302
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 1: And it's gonna listen, it's gonna be hard to make

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01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 1: any club. As an undrafted rookie free agent. You're you're

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01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 1: up against it. I don't care where. You're a long

1305
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 1: shot with a long shot, no matter what level of

1306
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:34,480
Speaker 1: confidence you have. So you take what's you got guarantees,

1307
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 1: and if they're gonna if this team's gonna give you

1308
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 1: more money than that team, go to the team with

1309
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 1: the more money.

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 1: If you're gonna make it, you're gonna make it.

1312
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 2: Back to the phones and to Sean and Lackawana. What

1313
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 2: do you got for a Sean Hey, with.

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Speaker 7: With Steve just said, excuse me what Steve just said.

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01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 7: With the offense, with the league going more offense direct

1316
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 7: the to our offense, do you think it'll ever become

1317
01:09:57,120 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 7: a flag league. I know we're never gonna get rid

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01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 7: of non contact injuries, but we definitely get rid of,

1319
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 7: you know, tackling injuries.

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01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 1: I'll say this, Sean, And I know it doesn't sound

1322
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 1: like you're being here's the thing. Uh, that's a big leap.

1323
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:21,959
Speaker 1: It is, but it's not. They're not gonna do that overnight.

1324
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 1: It'll it may evolve to something more like that. But

1325
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 1: I'll say this, history has shown us about the NFL.

1326
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 1: Whatever move they make and whatever direction they go to,

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01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:36,640
Speaker 1: is going to be good for the league. It'll be

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01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 1: good for fan interest. And whatever they do, it's gonna

1329
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:42,839
Speaker 1: it's gonna spur fan interest. They're not gonna do anything

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01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 1: that will in any way shape or form dent the

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01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 1: popularity of what it looks like on television for the

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01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,799
Speaker 1: for fans. They will never do that. And so whatever

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01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 1: it turns into, even if even if all of a sudden,

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01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 1: the ball, the foot ball is gonna be round now

1335
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:06,640
Speaker 1: instead of oblong. Whatever it happens, it's gonna be at

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01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 1: a point where fans are gonna clamor for it. So yeah,

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01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:13,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm not. I don't take anything off

1338
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 1: the table. It's a world in which we live, you

1339
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:20,679
Speaker 1: know about you know, contact and risk and mitigated risk

1340
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 1: and who who who knew what they were risking and

1341
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 1: all of that and all the legal ease. It's about

1342
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 1: fan interest, now. That is the one thing that has

1343
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 1: set the NFL apart from any other major sport. There's

1344
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 1: a bunch of things, actually, but one of them is

1345
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 1: that the league runs itself with the idea that the

1346
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:45,640
Speaker 1: game has never been sacred. Fan interest is sacred. They

1347
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 1: want people to be compelled to watch, they want people

1348
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:51,680
Speaker 1: to care, they want people to be enthralled by it.

1349
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 1: They'll do anything to get that. So whatever the game

1350
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 1: turns into, it's gonna become be because fans can't get

1351
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 1: enough of it. And that's the same way it is now.

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01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 2: Let's go to Joey and Lockport next. What's up Joey, Hey, guys.

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01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 11: Thank you so much for taking my call.

1354
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 5: I'm so excited.

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01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,639
Speaker 11: I want to screw it. Up. So my question really

1356
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 11: ties back to the roster and the practice squad. I know,

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01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 11: we sign all these all this talent and we put

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Speaker 11: them into practice squad. Are we ever going to leverage

1359
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 11: them and actually add them to the team and make

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01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 11: them full players. That's just my question.

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Speaker 10: I'll hang up and appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think what you have to remember with a

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01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 2: practice squad is it's largely made up, well not anymore,

1364
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 2: it's it's mostly half of It's made up of players

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01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 2: that they believe have the potential to be NFL caliber players,

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01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 2: if not right now, in six months time, in a

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01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 2: year's time, and they believe it's worth their time to

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01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 2: try to develop them into that, and that's why they're

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01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 2: on the practice squad. Now, with these expanded practice squad

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01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 2: of sixteen players, it also affords you the right to

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01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 2: carry up to six veteran vested players who are willing

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01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 2: to accept a practice squad role, whether it's somebody like

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01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 2: a Leonard Fournette, somebody of that ilk, you know, a

1374
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 2: proven NFL player at one time, but now is taking

1375
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 2: this job just to try to get another crack at

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01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 2: the league again. That's how you have to kind of

1377
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 2: look at the practice squad nowadays, because it's a developmental squad.

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01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, it used to be called

1379
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 2: that it was like a taxi squad. Developmental squad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the practice squad is the would be if your

1381
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:38,560
Speaker 1: rosters were ninety guys. That's the practice squad. That's what

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01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 1: the practice squad would be. And what they what it Basically,

1383
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 1: they're guys that are on the team. They're on the team.

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01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 1: They practice, they eat with the guys, they meet with

1385
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 1: the guys. They know the plays, they run through they

1386
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 1: watch the guys run through them in practice. They don't

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01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 1: run through them too much themselves, but they're taught them

1388
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 1: and they know how to do it. They know the words,

1389
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,719
Speaker 1: they know the plays. They've heard Josh call those plays

1390
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 1: in a huddle a thousand times. They've all that. They're

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01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 1: part of the team. They just don't get to play

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01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 1: on Sunday. The reason for that is because the game

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01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 1: has become so highly developed and so far into the

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01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 1: future where you've got to do some you got to

1395
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 1: know some things to play. They needed guys. When good

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01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 1: teams got to a point and they lost a key guy,

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01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 1: they didn't have anybody. He even knew the plays that

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01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:22,680
Speaker 1: could go in and play, so that you got to

1399
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 1: have a buffer between you and taking a guy off

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01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 1: the street and teaching him the offense in three days.

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01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 1: So that's what the practice squad has been about. It's

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01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 1: also a place where a guy might be good enough.

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01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 1: You didn't You don't know enough about him. You think

1404
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 1: he's going to be a really good player, but ah,

1405
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 1: he pulled a hamstring at the end of training camp.

1406
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 1: Now we don't know, we don't know enough, So let's

1407
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 1: put him on the practice squad, let him get healthy

1408
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 1: and keep an eye on him, and then and just

1409
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 1: have him wait and we can't. When we can make

1410
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:56,880
Speaker 1: the evaluation or when we find somebody better, right, we

1411
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: can let him go.

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01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:00,600
Speaker 2: But ultimately, I mean you're saying, oh, they're ever going

1413
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 2: to be on the active roster. That's ultimately up to

1414
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:03,759
Speaker 2: that player.

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01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 1: That's right.

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01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:07,640
Speaker 2: They have to prove to the coaching staff and the

1417
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 2: personnel department that they have made the necessary and required

1418
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:14,600
Speaker 2: improvements in their individual game to warrant a spot on

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01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 2: that roster.

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01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 1: You'll see it too, particularly here in Buffalo. Remember last

1421
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 1: year they had Leonard Fournette and everybody was like all right, awesome. Well,

1422
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 1: he didn't play, didn't play, didn't play, finally got into

1423
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 1: a game. I'll say this. I don't know this, but

1424
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 1: it would be part of my deal if when they

1425
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 1: signed him, Lind's saying, listen, I'll come up and I'll

1426
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 1: be on your practice squad and get ready to play.

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01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 1: But I'm a good player, And they say, I'll tell

1428
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 1: you what we promise you. We'll give you a at

1429
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 1: least get you on the field for a game. You're

1430
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 1: not going to sit on the practice squad all year.

1431
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,600
Speaker 1: We'll give you at least you know, a game on

1432
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 1: the active roster. We promise we won't let you waste

1433
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 1: all that, So all of that goes into it.

1434
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 2: So it.

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01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 1: Veteran guys know that's what it means, and it's really

1436
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 1: they separate it because it's active roster, practice squad, but

1437
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 1: it's all one team, and those guys are designated week

1438
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:09,720
Speaker 1: to week as to whether they're on the active roster

1439
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 1: or not, the fifty three or the practice squad, but

1440
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 1: they act like and they are treated like their members

1441
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 1: of the team.

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01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, break time for us here, but more coming your way.

1443
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 2: I've got to step out here early. Maddi Glab will

1444
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 2: come in to finish things up with Steve when we

1445
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 2: return here on One Bill's Live, presented by Colid of Health,

1446
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:45,679
Speaker 12: Welcome back in two One Bill's Live. Maddie Glab alongside

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01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 12: of Steve Tasker filling in for the rest of the

1449
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 12: show and Steve howse show been so far?

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01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 1: Pretty good game and Mark Moser was good. He was

1451
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 1: from the thirty third team, really good. We're taught, we're

1452
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 1: getting starting to get a feel for We're been talking

1453
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 1: Maddie about this draft and how the league's evolving, and

1454
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 1: he thinks he said, which I was like, Wow, I

1455
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 1: don't know about that, he said, And it makes sense.

1456
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:15,679
Speaker 1: I see his logic. Nothing but quarterbacks, receivers, and offensive

1457
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 1: tackles in the top ten of this draft because it's

1458
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 1: a good draft for those positions. Yeah, they're elite talents

1459
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 1: at those positions, and it's an offensive league. And then

1460
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 1: we started going down the getting into the weeds about

1461
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 1: where the league's headed and can't play defense and it's

1462
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 1: going to be a flag football league.

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01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 12: And you guys got in there.

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01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we're gonners. Good to have you in. Thanks

1465
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 1: for coming in. YEPM happy to be here.

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01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:41,640
Speaker 12: We've got a topic today, which free agent signing or

1467
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:45,720
Speaker 12: re signing will have the biggest impact in twenty twenty four.

1468
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:48,720
Speaker 12: That's our question for you today. We haven't dipped into

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01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 12: the tweet sheet yet, so we thought that would be

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01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 12: a This would be a good time to do so.

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Speaker 12: The tweet sheet is brought to you by Corgan Moving Systems,

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Speaker 12: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills, and

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01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 12: Steve I want to ask you first, is there one

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01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 12: at the top of your mind that you believe could

1475
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:07,680
Speaker 12: have the biggest thing?

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01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 1: While I was given producer Jay Harris a lot of trouble,

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01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna say, I was gonna say

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01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins of the of the Atlanta found a hard

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01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 1: time because he didn't make He didn't he didn't qualify

1480
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:20,679
Speaker 1: this and say Who's going to make the biggest impact

1481
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 1: on the Bills in twenty twenty four? He just said,

1482
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 1: whoever that to me is going to be a big one.

1483
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:29,959
Speaker 1: The Kirk Cousins thing because Atlanta over the last two decades,

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01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:35,639
Speaker 1: almost without fail, twenty years in the National Football League,

1485
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 1: some division has been won by the team that got

1486
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 1: last the year before that could be Atlanta. This year, ye,

1487
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 1: Atlanta could emerge and go from worst to first with

1488
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:48,640
Speaker 1: the arrival of Kirk Cousins and all the weapons they

1489
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 1: have offensively, That to me is a little bit intriguing.

1490
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 1: It's in the NFC, so you know, we kind of

1491
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:58,600
Speaker 1: push that off to the side here, you know, on

1492
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:03,560
Speaker 1: our show. But I think it's really impressive that more so,

1493
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 1: it's so different in today's NFL. You see teams guys

1494
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 1: like Aaron Rodgers last year, Russell Wilson last year, Kirk

1495
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 1: Cousins this year. Peyton Manning did it at the end

1496
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 1: of his career and won a Super Bowl and went

1497
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:19,560
Speaker 1: to two Super Bowls with the Broncos after he was

1498
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. You see big time quarterbacks change teams. When

1499
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:30,640
Speaker 1: I was growing up, never, oh my gosh, forget it.

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01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 1: It never happened. Never happened. Then at then when I

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01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 1: played at the end of my career, Joe Montana's up

1502
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 1: in Kansas City, you know, a couple of things like

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01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 1: that happened. Man oh man. Now it happens all the time.

1504
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 12: I mean, if you are a team who is looking

1505
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:50,679
Speaker 12: for a quarterback, if you believe that is your last

1506
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 12: missing puzzle piece to be able to complete the puzzle,

1507
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 12: Go get him. Insert a guy like Kirk Cousins. You

1508
01:19:57,160 --> 01:19:59,679
Speaker 12: believe you have what it takes on offense and defense

1509
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 12: to make a run. All you need is the guy

1510
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 12: to throw the rock. And if you believe in the

1511
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:08,639
Speaker 12: guys that are out there on the free agent market,

1512
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 12: they went after Kirk Cousins. We just saw the Bears

1513
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 12: trade away justin fields. They believe they're in a good

1514
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:20,679
Speaker 12: place to draft a quarterback. Could be Caleb Williams who's

1515
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 12: having his pro day right now, had his pro day today,

1516
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 12: So it makes sense. If you're in a place where

1517
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:31,479
Speaker 12: you believe you just needed that one last guy, the

1518
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 12: most important piece of the team, then go after him.

1519
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 12: See what happens. The Patriots are in a place where

1520
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:40,640
Speaker 12: they don't have one missing piece, that's right. They have

1521
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,760
Speaker 12: the third overall pick. Could go after a quarterback for sure,

1522
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:46,680
Speaker 12: but they also have a lot of work to do

1523
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:50,000
Speaker 12: on both sides of the ball. They're in the rebuilding era.

1524
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, new head coach, the GM, everybody's new. Yeah,

1525
01:20:57,080 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 1: so they got they got work to do. They got

1526
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 1: work to I guess we get into the.

1527
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 12: Tweets sheet, Yes we do, Devin says, I'm hoping it's

1528
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 12: Curtis Samuel, but in reality, probably Daikwon Jones hoping for

1529
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 12: a healthy, successful season for number ninety eight. And we

1530
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:14,599
Speaker 12: saw what Daikwon Jones did for the defensive line as

1531
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 12: a whole last season. In the beginning of the season

1532
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:22,680
Speaker 12: before he got injured. He really allowed a player like

1533
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:27,560
Speaker 12: at Oliver to go get after the quarterback, allowed the

1534
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 12: guys on the on the end of the defensive line

1535
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 12: get after the quarterback. You gotta have an anchor down

1536
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 12: there in the defensive line, and Daikwon Jones was exactly that.

1537
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 12: You could eat up those blocks, you could let at

1538
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:44,680
Speaker 12: Oliver not. He didn't have to take on as many

1539
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 12: double teams with a guy like Daikwon Jones in the middle,

1540
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 12: and it freed at Oliver up to use his skills

1541
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 12: set at getting after the quarterback.

1542
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 1: And it's not really Daikwon Jones being here isn't about

1543
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:00,680
Speaker 1: Ed Oliver. No, Daikwon Jones is a great So the

1544
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:04,719
Speaker 1: reason ed had a good year not really the only reason,

1545
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 1: but day one played good. Other teams had to really

1546
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 1: really game plan for him. He was a difference maker.

1547
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 1: He commanded attention from the offensive line. They knew where

1548
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 1: he was lining up, and everybody else benefited from it.

1549
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 1: Plus he was productive, and he was making tackles, he

1550
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:24,519
Speaker 1: was holding the line of scrimmage. He just did everything

1551
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:26,640
Speaker 1: you wanted him to do as that off tackle, and

1552
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 1: it made a difference. He made a real difference, and

1553
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 1: he even for himself, he kind of get the idea

1554
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:37,599
Speaker 1: of who the guy is. Brownie brought it up yesterday

1555
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 1: his postgame postseason interviews. Day one said listen, I'm thirty

1556
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:42,679
Speaker 1: two year old guy. And when he resigned, he said,

1557
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 1: I feel like it finally clicked for me what I

1558
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 1: was doing in there, how it was all fit together.

1559
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 1: Really took a step forward mentally inside his own head

1560
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 1: about what he was there for, what he was trying

1561
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 1: to do, and he played his best football because of it.

1562
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 1: That's great when you can get a guy to do that,

1563
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:02,639
Speaker 1: and get a guy at that point, certainly at thirty two.

1564
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 1: The only thing working against him is the fact that

1565
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 1: he's thirty two.

1566
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 12: I was in the middle of writing a feature on

1567
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 12: the defensive line right before he got injured. I remember

1568
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 12: I did the interview with him, and that week I

1569
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 12: think he got injured, and it was all about the

1570
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:20,639
Speaker 12: feature was going to center around the defensive line as

1571
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 12: a whole, why the collective unit was playing really good

1572
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 12: ball together, and how a lot of that was because

1573
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 12: of Daikwon Jones, his leadership on the field, how guys

1574
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 12: followed him, how guys looked up to him, and I

1575
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 12: remember a lot of his answers being about I just

1576
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 12: feel like I fit in this system. I really love

1577
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 12: what Eric Washington preaches to us as our defensive line coach.

1578
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:48,759
Speaker 12: I like the mantra of we are rushing as one unit.

1579
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 12: We are bringing our skills set to the table and

1580
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:55,520
Speaker 12: using what we are best at to get after the quarterback,

1581
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 12: to pressure the quarterback. And Eric Washington is not here anymore,

1582
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:02,720
Speaker 12: but you gotta leave that. Marcus West, who who was

1583
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 12: the assistant defensive line coach last season, now the defensive

1584
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 12: line coach, is going to take some of the things

1585
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 12: that he learned from Eric Washington and implement it to

1586
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 12: now his defensive line unit that he gets to coach

1587
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:15,320
Speaker 12: up this season.

1588
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's nice to have guys who are in

1589
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 1: the room when things were going as well as Daiquon

1590
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 1: purported them to go. You know, the guys that can say, hey,

1591
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 1: we can carry this over and and uh West will

1592
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 1: be you know, given that that job of doing that,

1593
01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 1: it's gona it's gonna be fun to watch, There's just

1594
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 1: no question about it. And uh yeah, Marcus West will

1595
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:39,839
Speaker 1: be able to you know, carry that on. Yeah, I'm

1596
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 1: I'm totally with you on that. On this dayk Onon

1597
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:44,599
Speaker 1: Jones thing. Some of the people who think that's going

1598
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 1: to be the guy. It's hard to answer questions like this,

1599
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 1: like our Twitter question, what bills you know is going

1600
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 1: to pay off the most? What what re signing or

1601
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:57,760
Speaker 1: signing is going to pay off most for the team,

1602
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 1: because this is gonna be a very different well, a

1603
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:05,720
Speaker 1: lot of different faces on this team. Not a different team,

1604
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:08,560
Speaker 1: but a very different group of guys, which kind of

1605
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:11,640
Speaker 1: is the same thing. Certainly is gonna be led by

1606
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 1: Sean and Brandon and the coaches and the key players

1607
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 1: are back with with you know, Josh and Steph, James, Cook, Kincaid, Knox,

1608
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 1: all those guys on the offensive side, most of the

1609
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:24,640
Speaker 1: offensive line are back. But on defense, it's gonna be

1610
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 1: a ton of new faces. It's gonna be a totally

1611
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:31,639
Speaker 1: new roster. It's gonna be different, and we have yet

1612
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:34,720
Speaker 1: to know what those who those faces are gonna be,

1613
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:36,680
Speaker 1: what the names are that go with those faces. So

1614
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 1: it's really gonna be difficult for us to see how

1615
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 1: you know, what's gonna be important on this team? Who

1616
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 1: is gonna emerge? Like I think back in twenty seventeen,

1617
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:51,720
Speaker 1: you know, they signed this guy Micah Hyde and this

1618
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 1: other guy, Jordan Poyer's little injury guys. You know, okay,

1619
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 1: all right, we'll see. You know, who's gonna be the

1620
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 1: biggest impact. I think it's gonna be I think it's

1621
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 1: gonna be Josh. When they dress, he's gonna make the

1622
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:03,599
Speaker 1: biggest thing. Well, you know, on it it was poor

1623
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:06,679
Speaker 1: Earn Hide. You got other coaches going now, these dudes

1624
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:10,680
Speaker 1: are killing us, right, It's like what so it might

1625
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 1: be kind of like that this year. You get Micah,

1626
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:17,919
Speaker 1: you get Matt Mulano on the field with Terrell Bernard

1627
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you know, nobody can throw

1628
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 1: it on us, or you know, we're sacking the guy

1629
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 1: every other play. You know that kind of thing. Who

1630
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 1: knows how this is gonna work? Those two guys with

1631
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 1: a year under their belt. Mike and you know Milano

1632
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:34,719
Speaker 1: coming back onto the field and the way Terrell Bernard

1633
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 1: absolutely flourished last year. Yeah, there's gonna be some of

1634
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 1: that going on with this group, and it's fun to

1635
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 1: think about.

1636
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:43,679
Speaker 12: All Right, we're gonna take a break. When we return,

1637
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 12: we'll get back into tweet sheet and close things up

1638
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 12: here at one. Bill's Live were presented by Clyda Health

1639
01:26:48,000 --> 01:27:05,799
Speaker 12: on Buffalo Bills Radio. We're back with our final segment

1640
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 12: of the show. We've been talking about what bills that

1641
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 12: you think could pay off the signings that were made

1642
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 12: in free agency, What players will fill the needs of

1643
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:21,599
Speaker 12: this team once Week one begins, once training camp begins,

1644
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 12: which signing will pay off the most in twenty twenty four.

1645
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 12: Steve says, I believe it's Curtis Samuel. He is a

1646
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 12: versatile receiver that has not had the opportunity to play

1647
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:34,800
Speaker 12: with a quarterback of Josh's caliber. I think he will

1648
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:37,560
Speaker 12: have the best season ever. He will be used in

1649
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 12: various ways and will have an immediate impact week one.

1650
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:42,640
Speaker 1: Do you believe Curtis.

1651
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:45,599
Speaker 12: Samuel could have a pretty big impact on this offense

1652
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 12: this season?

1653
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:48,560
Speaker 1: We went over the list of quarterbacks that he was with.

1654
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 1: He was with Cam Newton for two seasons, but then

1655
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:55,680
Speaker 1: he was with a litany of guys who you know

1656
01:27:56,439 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 1: it was, Yeah, it wasn't pretty list. No question, things

1657
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 1: are going to be different here in Buffalo for him

1658
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 1: than they have been since he left Carolina. So yeah,

1659
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 1: I think there's every reason to believe he's gonna have

1660
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:14,760
Speaker 1: a really, really good season. He's the kind of guy

1661
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 1: that they were looking for. He's a fast guy, route

1662
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:19,559
Speaker 1: runner separators a little bit along the line. I think

1663
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:21,600
Speaker 1: if you're going to criticize the move, one thing you

1664
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 1: can criticize for it. He's a lot like Steph. He's

1665
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 1: a little bit more like Steph than he is like Gabe,

1666
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 1: and I don't have a problem with that. There are

1667
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:32,600
Speaker 1: probably he's gonna be a problem for defenses, and I

1668
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 1: think it's a it's a plus. Good players make you better.

1669
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 1: And I think he's gonna be a better option in

1670
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:41,680
Speaker 1: the passing game than Gabe was at that spot. Now,

1671
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some things Gabe did better, as you

1672
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 1: might imagine, but I think I think he's exactly the

1673
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 1: kind of receiver you want that gives defenses problems. The

1674
01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 1: route runner separator catches the ball well and he's really

1675
01:28:56,479 --> 01:29:00,080
Speaker 1: good after the catch. That's a problem for defenses, and

1676
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 1: so I think there's every reason to think he's gonna

1677
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 1: step it up.

1678
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 12: And maybe the scouting department Brandon Bean believed that they

1679
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:10,400
Speaker 12: can find their Gabe Davis, their ex receiver if you

1680
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:12,920
Speaker 12: want to put that label on it, in the draft,

1681
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 12: because there are a few of those guys at the

1682
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 12: top of the wide receiver class that could be available

1683
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:22,719
Speaker 12: for Buffalo when they're on the clock with the number

1684
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 12: twenty eighth overall pick. And maybe Curtis Samuel is going

1685
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:29,839
Speaker 12: to be used as a chess piece in this offense.

1686
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:32,639
Speaker 12: I think about how he can line up all over

1687
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 12: the field, and even in a running back position, he

1688
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:37,760
Speaker 12: can line up in the backfield.

1689
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:39,760
Speaker 1: It'd be great to get to a point where, Okay,

1690
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:41,840
Speaker 1: we got this Curtis Samuel. Now we got like you

1691
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 1: know whoever, we got Roalma Doonza for instance, from one

1692
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:47,560
Speaker 1: of those top guys. Now now we got Dag, you

1693
01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 1: got a do Day, We've got Samuel. Now we got

1694
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:54,200
Speaker 1: a Shaquille Khali, Shakir Dalton kink doesn't somebody's gonna have

1695
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 1: to sit all right.

1696
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:57,280
Speaker 12: We're wrapping up here on one Bill's Live Well, see

1697
01:29:57,320 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 12: you tomorrow, Mock Draft Watch four point Coming to you tomorrow,

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