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Speaker 1: My roommate complained that I get ice loudly and I

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Speaker 1: He's like, you talk about loud ice, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: real quiet when you're sleeping on the street, and when

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Speaker 1: you're not in my house, I'm gonna poormed ice everywhere.

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Speaker 1: What if this is just a story about like someone

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Speaker 1: who just is obsessed with the ice bucket challenge and

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Speaker 1: can't stop filling up giant buckets of ice all night. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's find out who's closer. My roommate, twenty six female,

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Speaker 1: expects me to be completely silent after ten pm. On

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Speaker 1: the second night, when I was still moving in, she

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Speaker 1: imposed after ten pm quiet hours, and I agreed with them.

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Speaker 1: She told me that my noise late at night keeps

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Speaker 1: her up and she has trauma from being robbed as

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Speaker 1: a child. Damn, that's an interesting twist.

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Speaker 2: She's like, I'm sorry I was robbed as a child.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't there they broken. You must be quiet. I

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Speaker 2: was robbed as a child. They stole my mother's diamond ring,

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Speaker 2: and little am distitute. Now I have to live in

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Speaker 2: this apartment.

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Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from user Terrible Winter nineteen

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Speaker 1: thirty six on the r slash Okay Storytime Subbot it

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Speaker 1: the first time that she ever brought up noise to me.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't even home. She asked me if I had

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Speaker 1: someone in my room, right after telling me that she

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Speaker 1: had heard that I left the house. Then she told

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Speaker 1: me that she's hearing stuff in my room. She creeped

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Speaker 1: me out after that, so I put a lock on

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Speaker 1: my door. Fair. I expressed to her that sometimes if

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Speaker 1: I come home late, she's going to hear me open

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Speaker 1: the front door or walk past her room to get

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Speaker 1: to mine, but that it is just part of having

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Speaker 1: a roommate. Hey, sorry, When you have a roommate, they

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Speaker 1: tend to exist. She makes noise too that I don't

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Speaker 1: want to hear, but I understand that I don't live alone.

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Speaker 1: I have a sound machine and a fan in my

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Speaker 1: room to drown out the noise. She told me that

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Speaker 1: I get ice loudly. You get ice loudly, as if

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Speaker 1: there is a way to scoop ice in complete silence,

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Speaker 1: you could pick it up one by one, You could

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Speaker 1: pick it. Yeah, that's gonna be the next conversation. So

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Speaker 1: she said she's seen the show exactly. How so this

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Speaker 1: is how I would prefer that you get ice. You

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Speaker 1: take one ice cubit of time, you gently slide it

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Speaker 1: into the glass sideways so as to not make any noise,

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Speaker 1: don't tip it on the glass, and repeat that process

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Speaker 1: as many times as you need to get the right

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Speaker 1: amount of ice. And there you have it. And then

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Speaker 1: you have to sleep downstairs because you can't walk past

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Speaker 1: my room. Actually, just wait outside, just stay away, just

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Speaker 1: move out, I think, just move out, but keep pang rent.

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Speaker 1: Sleep in the house outside that I built for you. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I put it to you, a little Doghouse's it for you?

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Speaker 1: Out of ice? Okay, back into it? Oh god. I

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Speaker 1: try not to fill up my water bottle late at night,

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Speaker 1: but occasionally, if I come in late, I want to

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Speaker 1: if even that. She also brought this up about the

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Speaker 1: She had the whole place to herself for two whole weeks.

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Speaker 1: She's always home, so I never get space from her.

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Speaker 1: But again I understand I have a roommate, so she

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Speaker 1: She never leaves. She used to go to work every

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Speaker 1: On top of that, she makes a fuss every time

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Speaker 1: sounds like the most entitled person. She's like, I'm entitled

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Speaker 1: She asked to speak to me, and I let her

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Speaker 1: know my boyfriend was going to stay one more night.

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Speaker 1: My lease says I'm allowed to have guests for a

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Speaker 1: to justify her absurd demand. Wait, because he stayed over

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Speaker 1: I actually pay more money than you. So I get

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Speaker 1: You have to get your ice before ten room temperature only.

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Speaker 1: She also said that she wants to be able to

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Speaker 1: walk around in underwear freely narcissists. She wants no roommate,

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Speaker 1: she doesn't want to live with anyone. That's the thing.

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Speaker 1: You're describing what it's like to live by yourself. You

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Speaker 1: even list all of the rude things that she said

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Speaker 1: I would leave too if I was being drunkenly berated

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Speaker 2: You're always making noise and ice you need ice, and

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Speaker 2: you breathe and you walk around around my space and

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I pay more money than you. I deserve to be

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Speaker 1: I honestly think she feels a way about me having

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Speaker 1: night and left Sunday morning, several days in advance, and

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Speaker 1: she did not respond to my text. My sister and

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Speaker 1: I came in late Saturday night, and then I was

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Speaker 2: Sounds like Ope, he's been kicked out her own home.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Opie's going above and beyond to try to cater

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Speaker 2: Literally, get your own place. If you cannot have roommates

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Speaker 2: People make noise.

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Speaker 1: You gotta be okay with being around people if you're

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Speaker 2: Also, as a person who like I am a very

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Speaker 1: I think what you're forgetting is that she can't wear

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Speaker 1: earplugs because she was robbed as a child. Nope, yep,

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Speaker 1: you're right. I did forget that. You're so right. That

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Speaker 1: you to rob us every weekday at three pm on

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Speaker 1: YouTube Live. Just tap our profile. As a child, I

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Speaker 1: but don't let your children grow up like that. That's right,

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Speaker 1: I didn't want my landlord to have to deal with

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Speaker 1: and I'm tired of it. I'm just venting, But any

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Speaker 1: there but that is the end of that story. That's crazy. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: my advice would be to just continue to do exactly

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Speaker 1: what you're doing. You sound like you're kind of being

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Speaker 1: a model roommate. Honestly, you guys both paid, you're both

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Speaker 1: You have a right to exist within this space that

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Speaker 1: you pay for, just because she also pays for it.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully your Lisa. And when did they say the lisons.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we have a date for that, but

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Speaker 1: as of right now, Yeah, the roommate brought it up

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Speaker 1: set this right with the landlord. Be like, look, I

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Speaker 1: don't I'm not up all the time making noise. This

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you can have a conversation with her.

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Speaker 2: But Dutch just is not says the one wants you

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Speaker 2: to leave, but still pay rent. That is a great point.

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Speaker 2: You still pay rent. Don't let her push you out.

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Speaker 2: Just say hey, like, I'm sorry, I'm trying to be

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Speaker 2: quiet as I can, but I live here in a bearant.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you guys should just hang out more. She's

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Speaker 1: like you guys keep making noises, and it's like, maybe

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, that's a real fun one pint eighty to

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Speaker 2: Oh, P's way more invested in this dog than the

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Speaker 1: It'll be fine. He's good at all that energyes got.

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Speaker 2: I asked her constantly to pick up his poop. She

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Speaker 2: but she does nothing. She just sits and vapes when

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Speaker 2: She let just lets him do whatever I told her.

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Speaker 2: Can't afford to do any training with him. Hire a trainer,

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Speaker 1: This person is negligent. You suck. I hate this owner.

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Speaker 1: The fact that she said, I don't have money to

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Speaker 2: You literally can do it yourself. Figure it out.

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Speaker 1: It's like two dollars and watching YouTube videos. You absolute

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Speaker 1: You're so lazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not even a couch potato. She claims she

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Speaker 1: Understandablease out.

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Speaker 2: She leaves for work and doesn't feed the dog, so

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Speaker 2: He follows me around. I don't want to do this

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Speaker 2: He does that because I interact with him more than her,

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Speaker 2: So she claims I couldn't see what happened. Why would

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Speaker 1: I know why because she's got stupid idiot syndrome. She

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Speaker 1: Dog, I'm a big stupid idiot, and I had like

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Speaker 1: she had to.

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Speaker 2: Get three stitches. I don't feel bad because her dog

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Speaker 1: Oh so she completely like didn't pay for the plants

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Speaker 1: Can you do like a CPS thing for the dog? DBS,

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Speaker 2: This morning, she was like, I think we need to

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Speaker 2: I'm not spacing out and vaping when they're together like

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Speaker 2: It made me so angry when she said that I'm

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Speaker 2: She claims she had no money, so she had to

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Speaker 1: You're ordering takeout.

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Speaker 2: Stop ordering takeout if you don't have money. Come on,

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Speaker 2: I have crappy health insurance and I have already paid

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Speaker 2: if you don't pay the rent on time, you have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you get to do that right as

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Speaker 1: like a lot from just observing their behavior. And so

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00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,560
Speaker 1: she's feeling more for the dog than like but she's like, yeah,

435
00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,720
Speaker 1: this does It's like it just this dog has a

436
00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,520
Speaker 1: terrible owner. But you know who takes.

437
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Speaker 2: Care of you, guys us by joining us live every

438
00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,199
Speaker 2: weekday through PMPST on YouTube to stop our profile, We'll

439
00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:55,760
Speaker 2: take care of him. But there is a little bit

440
00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,560
Speaker 2: left to the story. We have a lease and I

441
00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,720
Speaker 2: don't want to go through the process of evicting her,

442
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,760
Speaker 2: so I plan to amend the least with a bunch

443
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,360
Speaker 2: of rules to make it clear what is her responsibility.

444
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,760
Speaker 2: Tenant must pick up after dog. Tenant must pay for

445
00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,560
Speaker 2: any damages inflicted by dog. Tenant must keep dog contained

446
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,760
Speaker 2: when tenant is not home, et cetera. I'm so angry

447
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,200
Speaker 2: about all this, and I have a million other things

448
00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,680
Speaker 2: going on, so of course it makes this whole situation

449
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,800
Speaker 2: more stressful as I don't have time to deal with it.

450
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,800
Speaker 2: Please don't adopt a dog if you can't properly care

451
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Speaker 2: for it.

452
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Speaker 1: Have a great day, all XOXL.

453
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to put more rules in it if

454
00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:32,480
Speaker 2: she's not listening to them.

455
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,680
Speaker 1: Yep, But I bet you she still won't listen. You're

456
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,920
Speaker 1: still probably gonna have to hound her and go after

457
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,240
Speaker 1: for any of the damages that she causes or any

458
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 1: of the rules that she breaks. And at the end

459
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,439
Speaker 1: of the day, you'll probably still end up taking care

460
00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,440
Speaker 1: of the dog because you're empathetic and you're gonna see

461
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 1: that the dog needs something or wants something, and usually

462
00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna be in the same place. So she needs

463
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,640
Speaker 1: to leave, you need to evict her, or you need

464
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 1: to discuss with her about how she is gonna move on.

465
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,400
Speaker 1: But that is the end of that's My roommate left

466
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 1: the gas running for two days, but she refuses to

467
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:09,639
Speaker 1: take accountability. Crazy two days? It was only two days.

468
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,919
Speaker 1: What am I supposed to take accountability for that? Jesus

469
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 1: is not my.

470
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 2: I'm not perfect, I'm just human.

471
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 1: I thirty female, have been living in this apartment for

472
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Speaker 1: over three years. I initially moved in with my ex

473
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Speaker 1: and he moved out when we broke up. In desperation,

474
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Speaker 1: I tried to find someone to help pay rent and

475
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 1: happened upon my roommate twenty six female, who initially seemed

476
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Speaker 1: to share the same ideals and goals for maintaining a place.

477
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Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from user o Cults on

478
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 1: the r slash Okay storytime subreddit. Here we are three

479
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,400
Speaker 1: months later. I'm moving out to a more expensive place

480
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 1: alone because quite frankly, she's gotten on my last nerve.

481
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,199
Speaker 1: I'm no stranger to mental health issues in a transitional

482
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 1: period of my life after a six year relationship neurodiverse

483
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,919
Speaker 1: af on top of a busy teaching schedule. However, based

484
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 1: on information disclosed and observation of her behavior, she's got

485
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 1: some sort of personality disorder. I try to be sympathetic

486
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 1: to that, but when she twists my words, even though

487
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 1: they're literally right there in the discord chat, it makes

488
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 1: me seem like a scammer and a lazy piece of crap,

489
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 1: and tries to micromanage cleaning, like literally makes me do

490
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 1: the heavy lifting as if I were the landlord on

491
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 1: her schedule, making me put off plans, et cetera. Well,

492
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,640
Speaker 1: it just became really difficult. This is her first time

493
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,919
Speaker 1: away from home, so on top of treating me as

494
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 1: a landlord rather than a co tenant, she doesn't know

495
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 1: how anything works, therefore misplaces blame that are clearly tenant responsibilities.

496
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,120
Speaker 1: She deemed me untrustworthy from the very beginning. I will

497
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,479
Speaker 1: take accountability for the shortened timeline, but I was as

498
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 1: clear as I could be on communication. She's claiming that

499
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,199
Speaker 1: I lied about the apartment being move in condition. I

500
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 1: literally have photos. I left her room, bathroom, and living

501
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: room as spotless as I could. I mentioned that because

502
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 1: I had been living here with crippling depression for years,

503
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 1: it would take me some time to sort out some clutter,

504
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: which I'd been actively doing until her actions triggered it again.

505
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: She was seemingly understanding of when she'd walked in the

506
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 1: first time. I asked her for two weeks to get

507
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 1: the place sorted and I would pro rate her rent. Instead,

508
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 1: she signed the least without viewing the place, which forfeits

509
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 1: her right to inspection because she wanted to move in

510
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 1: the day after my ex moved out, and has been

511
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 1: a tyrant ever since. I write this, having now spent

512
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 1: another day away from work due to the crippling anxiety

513
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:33,239
Speaker 1: of creeping around her. She's seemingly kind one day and

514
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: then awful the next, But I guess I'm willing to

515
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: pay more for my peace of mind in my own space.

516
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: I'd spent the past six years taking care of someone

517
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: else financially. Ironically, I brought someone into this space that

518
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 1: I loved and fought so hard for, only to be disrespected, demeaned,

519
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 1: and tore down. I'm heartbroken because the rent is super

520
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 1: cheap and it's an awesome space for the price, and

521
00:23:55,480 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 1: literally everything I could ask for. Unfortunately, after contacting my manager,

522
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: she reiterated to me that California state law protects co tenants' rights. Anyway,

523
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: onto bigger and better things. But here's a fun list

524
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: of things that she's done. Because I need cathartic release.

525
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 1: So she tried to short me on rent by calling

526
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: them rent reductions to cover her moving fees. Case one,

527
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 1: my ex moved out the day before she arrived. I

528
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: hadn't been staying in the house to give him his space.

529
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 1: I had to clean out the entire apartment in a

530
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: night with a friend helping me, you know, the exit

531
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: and clean up the apartment at all.

532
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,719
Speaker 2: Terrible X what are these people in the story.

533
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,880
Speaker 1: She wanted to take whatever money was used for cleaning supplies,

534
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 1: patching repairs, et cetera. Out of the deposit, and the

535
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: deposit stays with the unit, so she had to pay

536
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 1: moving in fine my exit. I agreed to it. Suddenly

537
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 1: she determines that he doesn't deserve his deposit at all

538
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 1: and starts itemizing BS bills that are responsibility and called

539
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: it a rent reduction.

540
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 2: This is so funny. She's kind of acting like a landlord.

541
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's the one being like, I'm gonna take your money.

542
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: I'm not giving you back your deposit. Yeah, exactly, you're

543
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: not the landlord. She's like, from my perspective, that's gonna

544
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: be a deduction. That's a deduction over there, and it's like,

545
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 1: you didn't give me the contract, dude, are you serious?

546
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 1: All this came out of my pocket because she threw

547
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: a tantrument and called me a scammer and what have you.

548
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: Case number two the fridge. She stops me right as

549
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: I'm about to leave and mentions that we need to

550
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: get a fridge. It then becomes my sole responsibility. We're

551
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 1: on a tight budget. I reach out to the guy

552
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 1: on craigslist. I handle everything, and then she asks if

553
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 1: I have a friend with a truck. Friend with a

554
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 1: truck is not available, so she calls some dude that

555
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: she knows, I'm assuming not a friend because she referred

556
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: to him as a B word with a back injury,

557
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: and then asks if there's anyone else I know that

558
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: can help. I phone my current boyfriend, who takes the

559
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: time out of his day to help us, despite having plans.

560
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: She volunteers me to pay her friend, but doesn't mention

561
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: anything about my boyfriend at this time. She didn't even

562
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: acknowledge or thank him. I confronted her about it, and

563
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: her reasoning was, your boyfriend is forty seven years old

564
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: with a job. He's a day laborer basically, But go off, sis,

565
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: dude is not my boyfriend. He's a thirty year old

566
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: kid that lives with his parents, which I teach children,

567
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: so is definitely not a child. I asked, so, because

568
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 1: he's my boyfriend, he's supposed to just do us a favor.

569
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 1: Wait what, okay?

570
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 2: I think what has happened there was the girl was like,

571
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 2: he's a forty seven year old without a job.

572
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 1: She was like, if he's a forty seven year old

573
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: with money, I don't know. This is reading like, maybe he's.

574
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 2: A forty seven year old job and so he has

575
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 2: the money to do it?

576
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: Is that what she's saying.

577
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure what's happening in that.

578
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: She seemed pretty justified, and she tacked that onto her.

579
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 2: Rent reduction, adding rent reduction that doesn't exist to TLDR.

580
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: She tried to short me on three hundred dollars of rent.

581
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: When I told her I wanted to pay separately, she

582
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 1: accused me of not having the money to pay in

583
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: the first place, and then proceeded to call me a scammer.

584
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 1: You are the scammer. You are the one scamming with

585
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 1: all these rent reductions. Oh, I guess this is another

586
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 1: thing that she did. Yeah, Also, we forgot the ty

587
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 1: like the title. She left the gas on. When does

588
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: that happen? Yeah, she left the gas on for two days,

589
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: like that's coming soon for sure. She left the front

590
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 1: door open for an entire weekend. Thankfully, my cat wasn't home,

591
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: but my neighbor's cat broke in and pissed on my rug.

592
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: The neighbor was kind enough to let me know and

593
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 1: shut the door. In addition, my roommate has repeatedly left

594
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: both doors unlocked. There's no respect for my property. She's

595
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: broken two of my personal belongings. One is a ceramic

596
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: cup that I made, and she burnt a hole in

597
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: my couch. She trapped a spider under one of my

598
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: mugs for four days, even after I confronted her about it.

599
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: Prior to this, she chose to insult me by saying,

600
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 1: who needs like thirty mugs? But what were you gonna

601
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: do with the spider? You're just waiting for it today.

602
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. I would just go into her room and

603
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: be like, who needs extra pillows? Who needs some? Well,

604
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: you have sheets and a co I would just take

605
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 1: her personal belongings and be like, I thought you didn't

606
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: need those.

607
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 2: But also like, it's so funny because does she put

608
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 2: a sign next to the cup that said like spider

609
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 2: under here?

610
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: She put like a little looney tune sign this on there.

611
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: You don't lift spider. Do not lift spider. Yeah, okay, Like, listen,

612
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 1: people know I love mugs, they buy them for me.

613
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 1: I'm sorry she expects me to do landlord things on

614
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: her watch. She wanted me to move the stove chat.

615
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: I am five foot three, one hundred and ten pounds

616
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: soaking wet. I'm not moving no, god dang stove because

617
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: she wants it clean. She expected me to drive back

618
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: to work for a shop back over the weekend. I

619
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: bought a shop back to shut her up. I wake

620
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: up Saturday morning to her screaming, bloody mon I sprained

621
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: my wrist cleaning your excess bathroom. You mean your bathroom.

622
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 2: Girl, You can't blame them that you're bad at cleaning.

623
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: You live here. These aren't your responsibilities. Now how long

624
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: her ex's bathroom? Just whatever? You have to clean it? Yeah?

625
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: Is he paying rent? Now? Are you not paying the rent?

626
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: Is that another rent reduction? This bathroom used to belong

627
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: to someone else? Rent reduction?

628
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 2: Also, regardless of whose bathroom it was, you were cleaning

629
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 2: it and you sprained your wrist doing that, like that

630
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: was your fault.

631
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you sprain your risk cleaning? Like? What

632
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: did you do? I don't understand. She just doesn't know

633
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: how I cleaned cently anyway. She got mad at me

634
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,959
Speaker 1: about the shot back and then blamed me for her

635
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: sprained wrist. When I asked what I could do to

636
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: help her, she left the gas running for two days

637
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: on the stove with a candlelight and she was asleep.

638
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: I nearly passed out when I walked in. She wants

639
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: me to clean the kitchen, but I literally have not

640
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: been home. She's been using it.

641
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 2: Question, how did you know that she left it on

642
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 2: two days?

643
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: Yeah?

644
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 2: I don't know, because did she tell you that she was, like, yeah,

645
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: I was on for two days.

646
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: That doesn't sound right because it sounds like with all

647
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: those things, the house would have exploded. Yeah. That doesn't

648
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,959
Speaker 1: add up to me. This story is confusing.

649
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 2: Miss store doesn't add up. Something's thing suspicious about this story.

650
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: She took over the pantries in the fridge. She uses

651
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: the kitchen all the time. Just clean up after yourself, dude.

652
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: She wants to clean together all the time. And my

653
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: schedule differs from hers. When I mentioned I'm literally on

654
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: a teacher's schedule. Our jobs never after the bell rings.

655
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: We are all constantly stressed, she clapped back with, well,

656
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: I'm busy too, bro, you work from home. Before you

657
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: ask me if I talked to her about this, I tried.

658
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: I told her how she made me feel in the

659
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: space I invited her into. I talked about how important

660
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: it was for me that she stopped disrespecting me in

661
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: a space I fought so hard to keep because she

662
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: does this creepy, weird, hot and cold thing where one

663
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: minute she's nice, in the next minute she snaps at me.

664
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: I talked a bit about the struggle that led me here.

665
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: She proceeded to mock me with laughing emojis and tell

666
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: me I needed help, which fine, I've been looking for

667
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: a new therapist forever. And she said that my emotional

668
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: baggage isn't her problem, that she's a human being too.

669
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: She told me that I needed to be more empathetic,

670
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: which yike's dude, I'm hypersensitives, vigilant, and self aware. So

671
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: I think that maybe she missed the mark on that one. Yeah,

672
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: she's the one that needs to work on the empathy.

673
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: I think she missed the mark on that one.

674
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: But what you guys will never miss the mark on

675
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: is joining us live on YouTube every weekday at three pm.

676
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: Just tap our profile. Just tap it, and there is

677
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: a little bit more here. Anyways, there's so much more.

678
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: I guess this should also serve as a reminder to

679
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: be a good roommate. I'm just happy I won't have

680
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: to hide like a recluse in my room anymore, and

681
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: then I'll be living where I want, so good luck everyone,

682
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: there's another side. Just get there. Wait, how did we

683
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: get there? How did we just get there? How did

684
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: we get there? How did we just get to? Like

685
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: my roommate is like crazy and I don't know what

686
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: to do, and then anyway she goes anyway, There's so

687
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: much more. I guess this should serve as a reminder

688
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: to be a good roommate. I'm just happy I won't

689
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: have to hide like a recluse in my room anymore,

690
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: and then I'll be living where I want.

691
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I don't know what op means,

692
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 2: but it seems like she's doing okay.

693
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I guess theoretically that ended with her

694
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: being like.

695
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: Oh caw Outascott says, she said in the beginning, she

696
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 2: was moving. I assume that moving was into this, but

697
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 2: I guess she was moving away from this situation. Love

698
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 2: that the whole point of the story was she's leaving,

699
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: and this is what she was leaving.

700
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: My friend tried to kiss my partner for a TikTok challenge.

701
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: One of my friends that I've known ever since we

702
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: were in high school. We're both about twenty two now,

703
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: has started to take an interest in TikTok. She already

704
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: has a big Instagram following, so she decided to try

705
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: something new and participated in a few challenges. Ooh, and

706
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: by the way, this comes from user throw rap and

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00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: Exchange on the r slash Okay storytime start read it.

708
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: So our friend group was supportive of her decision, even

709
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: though the opinions on TikTok as a whole vary from

710
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: person to person, from liking the app through being indifferent

711
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: to disliking it with a passion. Well, now I think

712
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: my friend has crossed the line that I'm not sure

713
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: I can forgive it. But just like the opinions on

714
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: the app are different among our friend group, some of

715
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: the girls are saying that she just participated in a

716
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: challenge and then I should chill out this TikTok friend

717
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: decided to kiss my boyfriend on camera as a quote,

718
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: kiss my friend and see their reaction. She was always

719
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: pretty close to my boyfriend, which I didn't mind since

720
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: she's my friend and I trust my boyfriend not to

721
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: get shady with my friend. My partner told me about

722
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: what she tried to do right away. He literally sprinted

723
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: out of her house and called me good job man.

724
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: He didn't know then that it was for a challenge,

725
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: But even when he learned about it from her, because

726
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: she was calling us both to clear up the misunderstanding,

727
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: he wasn't happy about it, and I don't blame him.

728
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: We both decided that it is better to cut her

729
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: out of our lives hut her out for a little

730
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: while to cool down. But my friend group is saying

731
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: that while they can understand my boyfriend, they can't understand

732
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: my reaction, and that I should be grateful that my

733
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,719
Speaker 1: TikTok friend showed me how loyal my partner is to

734
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,719
Speaker 1: me through this experience. The friend group has been making

735
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: me out to be the bad guy for the past

736
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: few days because I'm abandoning them and breaking girl code

737
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: for a guy I don't know. I feel like I

738
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: didn't need her to test my boyfriend, first of all,

739
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: and second of all, as a friend, she just should

740
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: You didn't throw herself at my partner, And third of all,

741
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: she shouldn't throw herself at anyone that she knows has

742
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: a significant other. You'rep out that's just scummy in my book. Yeah,

743
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: but apparently I'm the minority that's so with this opinion.

744
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: That's so strange doesn't make any sense. I know my boundaries,

745
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: So I guess I just turned to Reddit for some

746
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: kind of confirmation advice on what to do not only

747
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: with my TikTok friend, but also with the whole friend

748
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: group that's six years of history together and part of

749
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: me doesn't want to throw it away, but I'm just

750
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: so disappointed and betrayed.

751
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think anyone that is telling you to that

752
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 2: your friend who kissed your boyfriend is like, did you

753
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 2: a favor?

754
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: You need to get rid of them, you got they

755
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: gotta go. I mean, am I being swayed in real time?

756
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: Waybody just saw me? You get swayed in real time?

757
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: Where are you being swayed towards?

758
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 2: Well?

759
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: It's like who's swaying it? Because imagine that he does

760
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: kiss her, and then it's like, yeah, hey, guess what,

761
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: you need to break up with your boyfriend because he

762
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: kissed me during a TikTok challenge.

763
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: But tests are stupid because she obviously just wants to

764
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: kiss him. I mean, she just wants to kiss him.

765
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 2: That's why she kissed him. Feel like she wanted to.

766
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 1: Then, but she didn't kiss him. That's the thing. There

767
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: was no kiss because he ran away, right, because he

768
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: was immediately like oh and then sprinted out of the house.

769
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: But op, he never asked her to test. I mean sure,

770
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 1: but there was no ask to test. There's no reason

771
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: I would never I would would you ever go to test?

772
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: I'm not speaking on whether or not this is, but

773
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: I think in the end, no, like I kind of did.

774
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: It reaffirmed that your friendship is your relationship is really sturdy,

775
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: but she she never doubted that. I mean, yeah, it's

776
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: but it's the service provided I think is more valuable. Crazy.

777
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying, get rid of all your friends.

778
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 1: Get up. Anyone who says this is okay, I think

779
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: maybe yeah, there is a little a demon just came

780
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: in here. Let's set on my shoulder and it was

781
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 1: pretty and said, actually, it means they have a really

782
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: strong relationship. Did you think about a long relationship? What

783
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: did you think about how strong it is? Dakode? Okay, fine,

784
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: I'll go to the moon. Think about your actions. Well,

785
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: let's hear what the comments had to say. So from

786
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: NCKC one seven seven to echo what you've already said.

787
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: She didn't do you a favor because you didn't need

788
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: her to test your boyfriend's loyalty. I distanced myself from

789
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: any of these friends who try to convince you that

790
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: this was at all helpful or something you should be

791
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: grateful for, along with the girl who pulled this crap

792
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: to begin with. A real friend wouldn't do this to you.

793
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 1: And it's funny how they bring up testing his loyalty

794
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: while she was the one actually betraying your trust and

795
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: his too. Yep, you're one thousand percent justified in removing

796
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: this person from your life. You're not the bad guy here.

797
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: She put internet clout before your friendship. That's pretty um

798
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: you back, you back to the earth. I'm back. I'm

799
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: back to the out of here. That sounds going from

800
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: her fabulousness. I didn't realize girl Code allowed the girl

801
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,479
Speaker 1: to kiss her friends taken man for views or likes

802
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: or whatever they have on TikTok. You are in no

803
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: way the bad guy. Nope, And from Nie Kowai nineteen,

804
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: forget about girl Code. Has this girl ever heard of consent? Exactly?

805
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: I would be so angry if a friend just kissed me,

806
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: whether I have a partner or not. Exactly, Like, come,

807
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 1: you do have an update now.

808
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 2: Coming from the boyfriend's perspective, just being like having someone

809
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 2: try to kiss you when they know you're with a partner. Yeah,

810
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 2: and also just like to n't ask, and also did

811
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 2: it for views. I would be so betrayed as the boyfriend. Yeah,

812
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 2: I mean that would really suck.

813
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: It's not were they like they were so they were

814
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 1: friendly bestie though, right, But I mean, regardless of how

815
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: close you are.

816
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 2: I think that if I had a friend who I

817
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: was comfortable with and I thought was purely platonic and

818
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: they tried to kiss me, and then I found out

819
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 2: that they reviews.

820
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but that's the whole I just this is

821
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: one of the only TikTok challenges I remember ever seeing, right, Yeah,

822
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: but then it was just like for best for best us,

823
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: And then one of them just starts to lean in

824
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: and they capture the response to the other one being like, oh, yeah,

825
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: you just shouldn't have done that. You shouldn't That was

826
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: with the wrong person. I think at the end of

827
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: the day, what we're seeing here is this was the

828
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 1: wrong person to do the kiss your friend challenge.

829
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: You do the kiss your friend challenge, you get your

830
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 2: friend who's not dating anyone, and you say, hey, I

831
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 2: kiss you, they say yes or no, but if they

832
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 2: say yes, then you kiss.

833
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 1: And that the entire playbook, right, the challenge Queen of Worms,

834
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: the worm Queen Sophia.

835
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 2: It's not tried and true on my end, but try

836
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 2: it out.

837
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: I try it out. We got a new challenge. I

838
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: don't know. All right, let's get into this update. First

839
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: of all, I want to say that I'm really thankful

840
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: for all the comments I received under my previous post.

841
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: I was kind of scared for the reaction that I

842
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: would get from Reddit, thinking that most people would agree

843
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 1: with my friends on this matter. I guess they really

844
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: got to my head a little. As the only support

845
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,479
Speaker 1: that I've had aside from my boyfriend, I've read through

846
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: all of the moments and messages I've gotten, which helped

847
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: me a lot with understanding what I need to do.

848
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: Before dropping the news to my former friend group about

849
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: me wanting to go no contact with him, I decided

850
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: to talk with my boyfriend once again. A lot of

851
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 1: you pointed out rightfully that my TikTok ex friend literally

852
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: assaulted him. I told my partner about my decision of

853
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: cutting off the TikTok friend and anyone that's defending her

854
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: and assured him that I will stand by him when

855
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: he decides what he personally wants to do with her.

856
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: I showed him the post that I've made because I

857
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: wasn't sure if he even realized that he was a

858
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: victim of SA since my country is still stuck in

859
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: this backwards thinking that men can't be taken advantage of.

860
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: My partner told me that he needs some time to

861
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: think about the steps he would like to take against

862
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: my ex friend, But first of all, he wants to

863
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: make sure that she's not going to post the video

864
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: that she took of them onto her TikTok. Now to

865
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: the fun part. I told my former friend group that

866
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 1: I decided to no longer keep in touch with TikTok

867
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: friend and anyone that's on her side. I also added

868
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: that my boyfriend doesn't consent to releasing the TikTok she

869
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: has taken with him. The TikTok friend quickly responded that

870
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: him not giving her consent doesn't matter since it's a

871
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: video not taken for commercial purposes. I am she sucks.

872
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: That's just one of the lamest responses you could ever have.

873
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: Actually, legally, I can do whatever I want.

874
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'd be like, well, legally you suck. You

875
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: freaking sucks. So what you do, I'm gonna legally send

876
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: you to the sun now instead, legally you're on the sun.

877
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: But I think what you do is so you let it.

878
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 2: If she posts that, you go and you react posts,

879
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 2: you know, you do a little react post and you're like,

880
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 2: this is this this is the tea in this video?

881
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you get a million news and you

882
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: get all that money and then you flip it, you

883
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: flip it around on OP. So you wanted to be

884
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: famous for this op, guess what you know you're gonna

885
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: begging to You're gonna be famous for being the worst,

886
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: the freaking worst. The other friends in the group chimed in,

887
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: saying that she doesn't need your boyfriend, could such a

888
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: post a video that's hers. We've started to argue, with

889
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 1: me saying that this is illegal and them saying that

890
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: nobody cares. Damn these people suck. Yeah, this is a

891
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: pretty bad group literally suck. So now, aside from updating

892
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 1: y'all on what has happened since last time, I'm asking

893
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: for final advice, I guess not only for myself but

894
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: on my boyfriend's behalf. He already told me that if

895
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: she does post the TikTok that he will deal with her,

896
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: even if it means taking her to court over it,

897
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: which I completely support. But our question is would it

898
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: be very petty if we would post my original story

899
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: on our social media accounts while tagging my ex friends.

900
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: We do realize that it's pretty childish, but at this

901
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: point we were thinking about taking our own little revenge

902
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: on them, since consent has no importance to them apparently.

903
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: Would it be worth it though? Do it? But do

904
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: it on TikTok and get the fuse and all the fun.

905
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: Do it on TikTok and become TikTok faking miss your drama. Yeah,

906
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: we do have a couple more relevant comments here if

907
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: but not that relevant. We don't have to read them.

908
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think you just have to drop these

909
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: people because they literally don't care about you guys at all.

910
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: You know, we do have some replies from opio in

911
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: the comments, so maybe they are a little bit real,

912
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: maybe perhaps a little relevant. Yeah, and here's here's what

913
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: I'll say so far? What all right?

914
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 2: I had a are you you had a brief st

915
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 2: I was like, did she do.

916
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: OPI a favor? And then I'm like, all right, no

917
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 1: she didn't, No, she didn't do opia favor. We're back

918
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: on her. She's actually gonna get thrown into the sun

919
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: now instead of the moon because she's being like, oh

920
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: this video that you look anytime somebody approaches you and

921
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: is like, hey that video we did, I preferred if

922
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: you didn't post it. Your spon should always be okay,

923
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: of course I won't do that though, Yeah, not like actually,

924
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: well legally I can post whatever I want because it's

925
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: not commercial. It's like, now you're just now you're just

926
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: an ahole. Yeah, you're a complete stanky, little a hole. Okay,

927
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: Firefly two thirty two, just keep an eye on her

928
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: TikTok and then she posts the video. Go to TikTok

929
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: directly and ask for it to be taken down. OPI replies, yeah,

930
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: I guess our emotions are still running high. Thank you.

931
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: Icye Goose Double O seven says this is a tough one.

932
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: First of all, props to you and your partner for

933
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: being brave enough to cut them off and discuss what happened.

934
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: I wouldn't personally recommend posting on social media. Especially if

935
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: you explicitly name them, mainly due to you and your

936
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: partner considering taking legal action if they post the video,

937
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: they could have ramifications on you. Guys, I would gather

938
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: all the evidence of what happened, get a solid timeline

939
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: in order to keep supporting your partner. Good luck to

940
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: you both. Also, there are lots of resources online for

941
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 1: men who are victims of assault if he needs assistance.

942
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: Opie says, you're probably right about the possible repercussions. Thank you, Okay,

943
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: and those are the comments. Yay. So basically just advice

944
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: for Opie not to do anything that could lessen their

945
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: as leverage in the situation.

946
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 2: Does it make sense? But yeah, clearly good cut them off.

947
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: Get these people out new friend circle. It sucks that

948
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: it had to be six years of time now that

949
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 1: kind of down the drain. Yeah, but yeah, because of TikTok,

950
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: my ex cheated on me with his new girlfriend and

951
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: now I'm flirting with him to make her jealous. My

952
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: husband thinks I was rude to his friends over the weekend,

953
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: but I just felt like I was being honest and

954
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: they were being inappropriate. My husband and I have been

955
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: married for thirteen years now. We're both in our early

956
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 1: forties and have two wonderful preteen kids. We were college

957
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: sweethearts and he's the only person I have been with.

958
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: We have a lovely life. By the way, this comes

959
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: from user a swing one two three two three one

960
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: on the r slash okay storytime stubreddit. Last week, one

961
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: of my husband's childhood friends, John and his wife Leah,

962
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: visited us along with their kids. I've known them for

963
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: a long time and they visit us every summer and

964
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: we take vacations together.

965
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 2: What if I want to have that when I'm older,

966
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: You know, the family I can go on vacations with.

967
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: Better get started on it. Our kids are the same

968
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: age and they get along well. On Saturday night, after

969
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: the kids went to bed, Leah and John suggested we

970
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: go to our hot tub and get a little get

971
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: our drink on. I only drink socially, and I was

972
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: just sipping some wine while others were seriously getting chwasted.

973
00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: Leah brought up the issue of their bedroom life and

974
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: how they had slowed down a lot when the kids

975
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 1: were young, and now again had rediscovered their spark as

976
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: the kids were getting older. John told us that they

977
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: have also been experimenting with swinger lifestyle and how amazing

978
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: their experience has been. My husband was drunk and told

979
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: them that we never lost the spark and that things

980
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: have been going great, while I was just uncomfortably listening

981
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: to both of them. Leah asked if we have ever

982
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 1: tried swinging or open relationships since we both got into

983
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: a relationship when we were young. My husband had girlfriends

984
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: before we met, but I have never been with another man.

985
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: Leah asked me if I've ever wondered if I missed

986
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: out on that phase. I told her that I did not,

987
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: since it was like winning a lottery with my husband

988
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: and it would be foolish to regret not buying the

989
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:46,439
Speaker 1: wrong tickets. Ah John asked my husband if he has

990
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: ever thought about swinging or being with someone else. John

991
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: was telling him about how the experience is amazing and

992
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: it just adds spice to a marriage. My husband was

993
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 1: being polite and listening to it intently and asking him

994
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: questions about how they got into it, they meet other couples,

995
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: jealousy issues in etc. Leah finally asked me if I

996
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: would consider something like swinging, and it just made me

997
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 1: very uncomfortable. I wanted to shut down the discussion and

998
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 1: told her that I could never imagine another man touching

999
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: me in that way and probably would leave my husband

1000
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: if he ever thinks of doing the same thing. She

1001
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: asked me why, and I told her that another man

1002
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: touching me would feel like cheating to me, even if

1003
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: my husband was okay with it, and his love is

1004
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: enough for me that I don't need to seek attention

1005
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 1: from other men. Was I being rude to Leah regarding

1006
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: their swinger lifestyle. I feel everyone should mind their own

1007
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 1: dang business, But I was triggered by John essentially telling

1008
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: my husband to think about sleeping with other women and

1009
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: Leah implying that I should somehow be less satisfied because

1010
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: I didn't sleep around with a lot of other guy. Moreover,

1011
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: I also felt my husband should have shut off the

1012
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: subject immediately instead of asking for more information and stories

1013
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: from John. Oh wow, and then we have an update. Yikes?

1014
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 1: I think, where do you see us at right now?

1015
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 2: It seems like the husband is not as against it.

1016
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 1: As Opia's husband's had a couple You drinking poos, yeah,

1017
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: I think, and it's guys, it's dangerous. You shouldn't drink

1018
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: and go in the hot touch is dangerous. I mean,

1019
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: how does that organically happen? Like I think you have

1020
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: to have that third party sort of bring you into

1021
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: the fold again, and they're like, have you ever hey,

1022
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: have you ever heard of this thing called swinging it?

1023
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: I can't believe so many of you could see what

1024
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: I completely overlooked. After the kids went to sleep, I

1025
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: spoke with my husband, Mike. I told him that the

1026
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: situation from the weekend was still bothering me and I

1027
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,479
Speaker 1: wanted to discuss it. I asked him why he didn't

1028
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: feel angry at Leah for implying that I should feel

1029
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: bad for not sleeping with more men, and why that

1030
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: thought didn't repulse him. He responded that just because we

1031
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: don't agree with someone's lifestyle choices doesn't mean we should

1032
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: look down on their action. He said that while I

1033
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: was right to shut her down, equating it to cheating

1034
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: or attention seeking isn't fair to them. He added that

1035
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,439
Speaker 1: I don't know the circumstances that led them to start

1036
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: swinging in the first place, and we shouldn't judge them.

1037
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: I pushed further, and he told me that Leah and

1038
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: John weren't doing well last year and that John felt

1039
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 1: Leah was distancing herself. We have brought up the idea

1040
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: of an open relationship with John, which he initially disagreed with. However,

1041
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: they decided that splitting up wouldn't be good for them

1042
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: financially and would be worse for the kids. John then

1043
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: proposed the idea of swinging so that they could go

1044
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: out together and avoid doing anything behind each other's backs.

1045
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 1: According to Mike, they both seem to have reconnected since then,

1046
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: and John said Leah has been happier and more present

1047
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: in their relationship. Mike also mentioned that Leah was just

1048
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: curious about me because I've never even kissed another man.

1049
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 2: Well, mind your own dang business, Leah.

1050
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: He admitted he was upset because I rudely shut them down,

1051
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 1: and he feels John might be hurt because Mike believes

1052
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: John was forced into this lifestyle, and because I equated

1053
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: Leah's suggestion to cheating. Now that swingers are upset now

1054
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,720
Speaker 1: because you talked down on their lifestyle. This got me thinking,

1055
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: so I asked Mike how he knew all of this.

1056
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: He told me that John had been confiding in him

1057
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: about it since last year, but he never told me

1058
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: because it was John and Leah's secret to share, and

1059
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 1: he didn't know if they were comfortable telling me. It

1060
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: seems fair enough. Yeah, I started replaying the events of

1061
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 1: that night in my head. After the kids went to bed, John, Leah,

1062
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: and Mike were drinking. Mike was trying to get me

1063
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: to try his vodka drink, but I'm a lightweight and

1064
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: I know my limits, so I stuck to sipping some wine.

1065
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 1: Leah decided the weather was great and we all stepped

1066
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: outside onto the patio. Mike started the hot tub, and

1067
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: Leah and John decided to get in wearing only their underwear.

1068
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 2: Who these are all relevant, and this is all relevant.

1069
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,479
Speaker 1: Well, to be fair, when you get into a pool,

1070
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: no matter what you're getting in your underwear.

1071
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but let's be honest, I it sounds just a

1072
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 2: little bit more seductiony than previously thought, non pool sanctioned underwear.

1073
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 2: We've got hot tub drinking, and we've got the fact

1074
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 2: that Mike knew.

1075
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 1: They were swingers. Yeah, and now it seems like a

1076
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,479
Speaker 1: little bit of a collusion, a little coul could you will,

1077
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,760
Speaker 1: Although I do agree that it was not his secret

1078
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: to tell. Yeah. After they got into the hot tub

1079
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: in their underwear. Mike did the same. They all were

1080
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: asking me to do the same, but I kept my

1081
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: T shirt on. I didn't think much of it, since

1082
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: I've seen both of them in swimwear before. And that's

1083
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: when they told me they were into swinging. John and

1084
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: Mike were discussing the benefits of swinging, and John was

1085
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: telling Mike how amazing it's been. Meanwhile, Leo was trying

1086
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: to convince me that I should be more curious about

1087
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: sleeping with other men.

1088
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 2: I also feel like Mike probably set this up. Yeah,

1089
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,919
Speaker 2: I think he set this up. Scisy theory, I think

1090
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 2: he set this up. I think he was like, hey,

1091
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 2: can you kind of tell my wife about the joys

1092
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 2: of swinging?

1093
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: Can you can get that? Can you convert my wife

1094
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: into a swinger for me please? I think a lot

1095
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: of you were right. They might have been trying to

1096
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: recruit us.

1097
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 2: It was them and the US military on the other side.

1098
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were competing who was gonna first. You gotta join, babe,

1099
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: were either swingers or we're in the military. You gotta choose.

1100
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: What makes this worse is that my husband knew about

1101
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: them and still tried to get me drunk. And ask

1102
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: me to undress before getting into the tub. I asked

1103
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: him if he thought they were trying to get us

1104
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: to swing with them. He smiled and said no, but

1105
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,720
Speaker 1: I can easily tell when my husband isn't being truthful,

1106
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 1: so I kept digging. He then admitted that Leah had

1107
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: asked him about it when they were planning the trip,

1108
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: and he laughed it off because he thought that was

1109
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: it was a joke. At this point, I was beyond pissed.

1110
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: Leah openly asked my husband about sleeping with him and

1111
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: he never told me about it. Oh yeah, that's a

1112
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: pretty bad look. Oooo. I was playing the perfect host

1113
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: all weekend to a woman who, and I seriously doubt

1114
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: it was a joke, asked my husband if he wanted

1115
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: to sleep with her. I was so furious that I

1116
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 1: slept on the sofa. Mike kept apologizing, saying he didn't

1117
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: want to out Leah and John because he thought it

1118
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:50,760
Speaker 1: was private.

1119
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 2: Okay, but that now we've kind of gone beyond private, Like, yeah,

1120
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 2: things that don't affect ope, and now we're into something

1121
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 2: that directly like you, some one is propositioned you exactly

1122
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 2: that you're actively hanging.

1123
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: Out with a huge difference, huge difference between someone telling

1124
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: you that they're swinging and someone asking you someone trying

1125
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: to recruit them. However, I genuinely feel Mike's actions were

1126
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 1: also inappropriate. He tried to get me undressed and drunk

1127
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: in front of these people. I don't know what to do.

1128
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,919
Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say that I'm never going

1129
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: to be around Leah and John again. However, I feel

1130
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 1: more hurt by Mike and his actions and am unsure

1131
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: of what I'll do next. What do you do you

1132
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: think that she ends up leaving? I think I think so.

1133
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: This is a pretty big betrayal of trust.

1134
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 2: If he knew that they were going to talk about that,

1135
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 2: and he knew that Leah propositioned him, I think those

1136
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 2: are all pretty bad.

1137
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's gonna end with leaving, maybe

1138
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: like cut counseling, or if there I.

1139
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 2: Think I could go to counseling because this was the

1140
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 2: only thing exactly, but I think they would have to

1141
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 2: cut off lea in Mike.

1142
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: Thanks for all your messages. I know many of you

1143
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 1: have been waiting for an update, and I wasn't sure

1144
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: if I wanted to post. A lot has happened over

1145
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: the past few weeks, and I genuinely need advice on

1146
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: what to do next. After the last post, someone advised

1147
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: me to call John and ask him directly about what

1148
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: was going on. I decided to do that as I

1149
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: was curious if he knew about Leah's apparently joking suggestion

1150
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: to my husband while planning the trip. I called John

1151
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: in the evening when I knew he'd be driving home.

1152
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: He was surprised to hear from me, but I asked

1153
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 1: him outright about what happened that night, and he told

1154
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,280
Speaker 1: me that he considers me like a sister and would

1155
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: never think of doing such a thing. Wait, okay, when

1156
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: John said that, John said that, but they were in

1157
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 1: the hot tub and they were asking who knows? John

1158
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: assured me I was overreacting and that they were just

1159
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,280
Speaker 1: having fun. He also emphasized that just because they're swingers

1160
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 1: doesn't mean they don't have boundaries. Friends and co workers

1161
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: are off limits for them to avoid emotional entanglements. Okay,

1162
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,439
Speaker 1: does Leah know that? I doesn't you know? I think

1163
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: maybe it was a joke. I asked if he knew

1164
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: that Leah had jokingly asked my husband if he wanted

1165
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,760
Speaker 1: to Swing while they were planning the trip. Was shocked

1166
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 1: and told me he had no idea He is the

1167
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: problem here. Pia is the bad apple. He said it

1168
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: was extremely inappropriate for her to do that, and was

1169
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: also upset that my husband didn't tell him about it.

1170
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: John said he would talk to Lea about it that night.

1171
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: I didn't hear from John for a few days, but

1172
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: when I told my husband about the call, he was furious.

1173
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: He said it wasn't my place to tell John about

1174
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: Lea's joke, as it could cause misunderstandings. I apologized to Mike,

1175
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 1: explaining that I suspected John and Leah might be trying

1176
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: to get us to swing, and I felt like I

1177
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: needed to ask John directly. I also mentioned that I

1178
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: was relieved to hear John reassure me that he would

1179
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 1: never think of me that way. However, my husband seemed

1180
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 1: nervous over the next few days. Then one evening, John

1181
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: called me and said he had found a secret account

1182
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 1: of Leah's on an app called Telegram. Telegram was installed

1183
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: on her laptop, but not her pump. He discovered that

1184
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: Leah had been messaging multiple men, including my husband, on

1185
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: that app. No, no, it wasn't a joke. Leah wasn't joking.

1186
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 2: Cledah, Leah, Leah, how are you gonna cheat when you're swinging?

1187
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 1: She found why she's an overachiever or should I say

1188
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 1: an over a cheater? Oh I'm on fired aday? Oh yeah.

1189
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: We hire him officially and he just gives it. He

1190
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: brings it every day. John said he planned to confront

1191
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: Leah that night and wanted to give me a heads up.

1192
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 1: He also emailed me the chat logs between Leah and

1193
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 1: my husband, which span more than a year. WHOA, I

1194
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 1: had no idea Mike had been talking to her for

1195
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: so long. The messages began after a trip we took

1196
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: last spring. Leah had been discussing her plans to open

1197
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: her marriage with Mike, asking for his opinion and sharing

1198
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 1: how she felt. When John finally agreed, Mike mostly just

1199
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: listened and didn't encourage her or offer advice. After they

1200
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: started swinging, Leah sent some selfies which were deleted, and

1201
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: Mike asked her where they were going and what they

1202
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: were doing. She would share details about their encounters with

1203
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: other couples, and Mike would respond with a few words

1204
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 1: here and there. At one point, Leah sent Mike a

1205
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 1: deleted video, presumably of her and John with another couple,

1206
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: and Mike told her not to send pictures or videos

1207
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:23,959
Speaker 1: anymore because it made him uncomfortable. Okay. However, however, Leah

1208
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 1: occasionally messaged him about their encounters and Mike would respond briefly.

1209
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: When we were planning the trip, Leah asked Mike if

1210
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: we'd be interested in swinging. In one of their conversations,

1211
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: Mike told her that I would never be interested and

1212
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: that he couldn't bear to see me with another man.

1213
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 1: Leah made fun of us, saying she bet I fantasized

1214
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 1: about other men since I'd only been with him. Oh

1215
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: my god, projecting much.

1216
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 2: It's just weird that Mike seemingly is pushing back against Lea,

1217
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 2: but is also messaging her on this super encrypted site.

1218
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: And clearly there should be some better communication between Mike

1219
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: and yeah, Mike and OP. So the whole conversation was

1220
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: Leah trying to convince Mike that I would be open

1221
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: to swinging if given the chance. Although these messages were

1222
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: highly inappropriate, one silver lining was that Mike never said

1223
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: anything inappropriate in return. Okay, he never expressed interest in

1224
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: sleeping with other women. As I was reading the messages,

1225
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,919
Speaker 1: Mike walked into the room and started apologizing. John had

1226
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: also called him and they had a big argument, ending

1227
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: with John dropping the bombshell that he'd sent all of

1228
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: the messages to me. Mike told me he had no

1229
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: explanation for his actions and that I had every right

1230
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: to be angry. I kept asking him why he would

1231
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: do this and how I could ever trust him again.

1232
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: Mike explained that during our trip last spring, John, Leah,

1233
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: and Mike were drinking late one night while I went

1234
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: to bed early with the kids. After John went to bed,

1235
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: Leah and Mike were chatting. Leah confided that although John

1236
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: was a perfect husband, she felt something was missing in

1237
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: her life. They were both drunk and talked about what

1238
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: it would be like to open up their marriages. A

1239
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: few days later, Leah messaged Mike privately asking him to

1240
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: join telegrams so they could talk more discreetly. She wanted

1241
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: his opinion on how to approach John about opening their

1242
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: marriage and asked for his help in case John overreacted.

1243
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: Mike assured me that he never intended to cheat on me,

1244
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: but was fascinated by Leah and John's new lifestyle and

1245
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: was curious Leo would share details about their experiences and

1246
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: Mike found it intriguing. He said he never crossed the line,

1247
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: and when Leah tried to send videos, he shut it down.

1248
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: He also admitted that he knew Leah was trying to

1249
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: test me in the bathtub, I mean, and was curious

1250
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: about my reaction, as he suspected I might feel the

1251
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: same as Leah but was repressing it. He was relieved

1252
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: to find out that I wasn't like Leah. He apologized

1253
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: again and begged me not to think of him as

1254
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: a cheater. He knows he crossed many boundaries I would

1255
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,919
Speaker 1: never agree to, but he insists he'd never thought about

1256
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: cheating on me. He also pleaded with me to consider

1257
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: our kids. But I want you to consider joining us

1258
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,919
Speaker 1: live every weekday on YouTube at three PMPST. Just tap

1259
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: our profile.

1260
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 2: The fact that she was sending videos and pictures regardless

1261
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 2: of him being receptive or not. The fact that she

1262
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 2: sent those, but he he didn't tell a p about them,

1263
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 2: and that's that's messed up.

1264
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: I think as soon as the videos and the picture started,

1265
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: he's like, no, no, no, stop it, don't do that.

1266
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: He should have come forward and said that way earlier,

1267
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: especially when you're hanging out with rest.

1268
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 2: Well, I think they can get through this with counseling,

1269
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 2: but I still think he's like super in the wrong.

1270
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: I've been struggling with this for the past week, and

1271
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: I could really use some advice. I think I might

1272
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: be able to forgive Mike for what he did, as

1273
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: he seems genuinely curious and he did shut down Leo

1274
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: whenever she tried to cross the line. However, it still

1275
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 1: feels like a huge betrayal and I'm not sure if

1276
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: I can ever trust him again. I want my kids

1277
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: to have a stable home, and I don't want to

1278
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: make any hasty decisions while I'm emotional. Has anyone been

1279
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: in a similar situation and how did you recover from it?

1280
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: And that is the end of that story. Well, I

1281
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: certainly haven't been in a similar situation. No, but I

1282
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: think I agree. You want the home to stay sturdy

1283
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: for the kids. Yeah, I don't think. I think now

1284
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: if he was if he was sending videos back and

1285
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 1: he was like secretly, you know, texting this woman about

1286
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: how yeah he was fantasy about being in a swinger's

1287
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: dynamic with them, that's a different story, but it's still

1288
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: a breach of trust. But I do think it's one

1289
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: hundred percent recoverable.

1290
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 2: If ope, he goes to counseling, there is a chance

1291
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 2: that they could get back you know, trust and stuff.

1292
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 2: But I think I would also understand if she went

1293
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 2: to counseling and was like, I still can't trust you.

1294
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 2: By fiance kept a relationship with secret from her friend

1295
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 2: because he had a crush on her. My now ex

1296
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 2: fiance thirty female and me male twenty seven got engaged.

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01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: Three weeks ago.

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01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 2: Congrats, we've been dating for five years and finally got

1299
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 2: the money to give her the wedding she wanted. Well,

1300
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 2: three days ago, we were discussing our guest list and

1301
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 2: I asked if she wanted to invite her best friend,

1302
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 2: let's call him James Mail thirty. James lives in another state,

1303
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 2: but since they were friends for ten years, I thought

1304
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 2: I could even pay for his travel expenses since he

1305
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 2: would be great to have her best friend at the wedding.

1306
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from Visible Broccoli three eighty

1307
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 2: one on the Okay Storytime Separate. So she he denied,

1308
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 2: saying that it would take a lot of work to

1309
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 2: bring him, and she wanted it to be a family event.

1310
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 2: Countless time she mentioned that James was like family to her,

1311
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 2: so I insisted. She got annoyed and said I didn't

1312
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 2: even tell him we were engaged, but he's like family

1313
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 2: to you. That took me by surprise. I tried to

1314
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 2: ask her why, but she started stonewalling me and I

1315
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 2: left her alone. After a couple of hours, I tried

1316
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 2: to ask her again why she hasn't told him we

1317
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 2: were engaged, and she still refused to answer me. I

1318
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 2: admit my insecurities got the better of me. In the past,

1319
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 2: James had confessed he had feelings for her, which she

1320
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 2: turned down and basically friend zoned him. But by the

1321
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 2: way she told me, it always sounded like she had

1322
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 2: him as a backup something. Not only me, but her

1323
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 2: exes realized she married him online. They always made the

1324
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 2: World of Warcraft characters look like a couple, like wearing

1325
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 2: the same transmog and craft like that when she had

1326
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 2: a fight with her exes, he was always there for

1327
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 2: her and etc. I told her that made me uncomfort

1328
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 2: and if she was not planning to tell him, she

1329
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 2: might as well consider herself single because I would not

1330
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 2: marry someone who couldn't be on it.

1331
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: That's fair. I mean, why can't she tell him? Yes?

1332
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 2: I was pretty immature, But she did something even more immature.

1333
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 2: She texted him while showing me her phone, something like, Hey,

1334
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 2: just so you know, I'm engaged, but not anymore. I

1335
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 2: told her to pack her things and leave my house.

1336
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 2: Ever since she's left, she's been calling me, but I

1337
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 2: refused to answer. My mom called me because she apparently

1338
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 2: called my mom and said that I was an ale

1339
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 2: for ending things for such a ridiculous thing. So am

1340
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 2: I the a hole?

1341
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: Ope? He didn't end things though.

1342
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 2: Hey guys, I just got home after talking to my

1343
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 2: still ex fiance. And since a lot of people ask

1344
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 2: for an update here it is. I want to clarify

1345
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 2: a few things. As commented on my original post, I

1346
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 2: pay for the house since I bought it before dating her,

1347
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 2: and I asked her to move in since it was

1348
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 2: close to her job. I work from home since I'm

1349
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 2: in tech, but she had to go to work. That's

1350
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 2: why I paid for her car to help her, and honestly,

1351
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 2: her salary is crap. I was her partner, so I

1352
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 2: didn't see any problem with that. I thought she was

1353
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 2: the one despite everything. She is smart, funny, we had

1354
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 2: chemistry that I felt betrayed.

1355
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: To the update.

1356
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 2: We met at a coffee shop on the premise we

1357
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 2: would discuss how to save our relationship. At least that's

1358
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 2: what she thought. Mmm, a little what's the word, A

1359
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 2: little trap has view, A little scheme is afoot. As

1360
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 2: soon as we sat down, I asked to see their messages.

1361
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 2: She got defensive immediately and told me she had deleted everything.

1362
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 2: I asked to see her phone anyway, she started to cry,

1363
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 2: ugly cry, asking me to stop. At that point, I

1364
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 2: had already decided I was not going to be part

1365
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 2: of the relationship anymore, but dang, I was curious. Took

1366
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 2: a good twenty minutes for her to hand me her phone,

1367
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 2: a lot of crying, even a waitress asking if she

1368
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 2: was okay.

1369
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 1: You know what this sounds like to me, I'm gonna

1370
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 1: just say it. I hope that no one gets mad

1371
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 1: at me about this. It sounds like, you know what, No,

1372
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna I know that this girl's emotionally manipulative.

1373
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, one hundred oh yea. So I read the messages.

1374
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 1: There wasn't any cheating like spicy picks, being in change them,

1375
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: professing their love for each other. But what I read

1376
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 1: still stung.

1377
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 2: There was a lot of crap talking about me, a

1378
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 2: lot texts and texts of them saying how terrible a

1379
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 2: person I was, criticizing my hobbies I like video games

1380
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 2: and pro wrestling, saying I wasn't a real man because

1381
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 2: of them, and stuff like that. But there were two

1382
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 2: topics that caught my eye. One where she had told

1383
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 2: them I was having trouble getting it up and that

1384
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 2: was frustrating for her, and one where she was complaining

1385
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 2: about how she didn't want to be stuck in our relationship.

1386
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: Hey, you think that's frustrating for you, Oh, Pi's the

1387
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 1: one stuck. You might come on what I'll just leave

1388
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 1: it at that.

1389
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 2: Yes, I was having problems in bed because I was

1390
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 2: sad because my father had passed away six months ago,

1391
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 2: and the stuck thing. I remember telling her that when

1392
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 2: we got married, if she wanted she you could leave

1393
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 2: her job and I would provide for both of us.

1394
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 2: I don't know if she took this the wrong way,

1395
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 2: but I guess it was related to that.

1396
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 1: I honestly don't know.

1397
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 2: By the time I gave her the phone back. She

1398
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 2: was already giving excuses on why she was saying those

1399
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 2: things to him, how he was like a therapist for her.

1400
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 2: And then she asked me, don't you complain about Mete

1401
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 2: your friends? And I simply replied, no, I don't. Yeah,

1402
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:26,919
Speaker 2: I'm so frustrated by this. I'm so I genuinely think

1403
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 2: that there are certain elements where you can ask for

1404
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 2: advice in a relationship to your friends, and you can

1405
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 2: talk about it, of course, but there you shouldn't be

1406
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 2: complaining about your partner to your friends. She started crying again.

1407
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 2: I took a pretty deep breath and just said, just

1408
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 2: give me the ring back. I didn't have the ring

1409
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 2: with me like some suggested. She hesitated a bit, but

1410
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 2: gave it to me anyway. I stood up and asked

1411
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 2: her to delete my number and to not bother me anymore.

1412
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 1: Wow.

1413
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 2: I called her mom and asked her to pick up

1414
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 2: her daughter's stuff at my place. Her mom is a

1415
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 2: good person. I'm just realizing I'm going to miss her

1416
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 2: as I write this. She understood why I decided to

1417
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 2: end it, but she didn't ask much, and to be honest,

1418
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 2: I'm glad she didn't As for my mom, I didn't

1419
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 2: call her. I just blocked her for things unrelated to

1420
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,439
Speaker 2: this post. I just realized she never had my back

1421
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 2: in anything. I was always trying to save an already

1422
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 2: failed mom son relationship. Well yeah, it seems like it's

1423
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 2: crazy that your girlfriend who sucks mom is better than

1424
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 2: your mom. Like your mom and your ex girlfriend were.

1425
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 1: Like in on it. Mom does not have your back.

1426
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 1: Mom does not have your back.

1427
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 2: Before I leave, I just want to clarify I was

1428
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 2: never against her having male friends or any type of friends.

1429
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 2: People are going to cheat friends or no friends. I

1430
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 2: remember my dad saying something to me when I was

1431
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 2: a teenager. He always said opportunity makes the thief. But

1432
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 2: I do not agree with that. Great I also do

1433
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 2: not agree with that anyway. Since I have the next

1434
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 2: two week off work, I'm going to figure out what

1435
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 2: to do with the wedding money, Drink some booze, play games,

1436
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 2: and watch Monday Night Raw later, peace and edit. A

1437
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 2: couple people are asking about the car. It's a twenty fifteen.

1438
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 2: I'm not going to no responsors, which she crashed two times.

1439
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 2: Both times she rear ended. Someone never likes the car,

1440
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 2: week engine, the interior feels cheap and overall bad, So

1441
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 2: for all I care, she can keep that piece of

1442
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 2: grap cool. I would have more luck throwing it off

1443
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 2: a cliff than selling it. And edit two, her mom

1444
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 2: called me a few hours ago to check on me

1445
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 2: and to ask when she could come home and pick

1446
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 2: up Ex's stuff. We spoke about the car, and she

1447
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 2: basically forbid me to let her daughter keep the car

1448
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 2: because one I paid for it, and two X wouldn't

1449
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 2: be able to maintain it. So I'm going to keep

1450
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 2: the car until I am able to sell it God

1451
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 2: help me, or drive it off a cliff.

1452
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 1: I guess send it off not with you any videos,

1453
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 1: but people sending old beat up cars over the cliff,

1454
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 1: and I'm just like a whole festival for it. Yeah,

1455
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 1: you can donate it to that do it that festival. Yeah.

1456
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 2: Also, some people call the story fake because they said

1457
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 2: I wasn't a real man for playing games, and yet

1458
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 2: they played World of Warcraft. To be honest, that's on

1459
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 2: me because I wasn't very clear the real man thing

1460
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 2: was more about the pro wrestling hobby than the gaming hobby.

1461
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 2: But in some messages they clearly mocked me for playing

1462
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 2: Games Life Is Strange series. In one I remember James

1463
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 2: saying something like, how could a grown man play such

1464
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 2: a girly great game?

1465
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 1: And cry?

1466
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 2: Yes, I cried playing Life Is Strange. I also cried

1467
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 2: playing r D to r D R.

1468
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 1: Two Redemption too, And I will give that a free

1469
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 1: sponsor because it's one of the best narrative storylines ever

1470
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,679
Speaker 1: crafted by humans and also one of the best games every.

1471
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 2: The I'm Afraid cutscenes still makes me emotional. I'm a

1472
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:26,720
Speaker 2: cry baby, I guess.

1473
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 1: But you're not.

1474
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 2: That doesn't make you any less of a man. And

1475
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:30,680
Speaker 2: you know what doesn't make you any less of a

1476
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 2: man either. Joining us Live every week had three PMPSD

1477
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 2: on YouTube. Just stab a profile. Also, I want to

1478
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 2: thank everyone who messaged me to talk about wrestling and games.

1479
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 2: It really helped me to take my mind off everything.

1480
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 2: I haven't replied to everyone, but I intend to. If

1481
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 2: anything happens, I'll let you guys know. And that is

1482
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 2: the end of that story. But man, oh man, you

1483
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,839
Speaker 2: dodged a bullet with that girl because she sucks.

1484
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:55,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to be I don't want to be

1485
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 1: married married to a person who's even capable of doing

1486
01:08:57,880 --> 01:08:58,919
Speaker 1: this she sucks.

1487
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 2: Oh actually, yeah to that comment about you know, sharing

1488
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 2: six like positive things versus and then going into the

1489
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 2: I think that when you want to ask advice from

1490
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:10,639
Speaker 2: your friends about a certain thing, like with a partner,

1491
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 2: I think that you you shouldn't do, like, if you

1492
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 2: want to continue the relationship, you shouldn't be like crapping

1493
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 2: on your partner or anything and being like, oh my god,

1494
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 2: they did this and I can't believe they did that.

1495
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 2: I should be like, hey, like I'm trying to figure

1496
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 2: out how to go through this situation and I'm looking

1497
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 2: for a little advice like that.

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Speaker 1: I think you can ask in that way with your

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Speaker 1: friends about the right friend too, exactly every friend and

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Speaker 1: saying and then being like what do I do? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you definitely, because then because you don't want all your

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01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 1: triends to think that you just hate person, and then

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01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna get they're gonna now have a bad relationship

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01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 1: relationship with your partner because of stuff that you told

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01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 1: them that they really might not have even needed to

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01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 1: hear exactly.

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Speaker 2: And then you're like, you're still with them, and they're like,

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Speaker 2: why are you still with them?

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Speaker 1: You don't like them? Yeah, And it's like, no, no, I

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01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: do like them. I just tell you all the bad

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Speaker 1: stuff and I don't tell you all the good stuff

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Speaker 1: because I only want to complain about the bad stuff. Factly,

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01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:08,839
Speaker 1: nobody's out here sending like, you know, paragraph long messages

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Speaker 1: about like these are all the good things that my

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Speaker 1: boyfriend did this week. Or if you are shout out

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01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 1: to you that's pretty cool. You just keep talking.

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Speaker 2: Also, if you have a problem with your partner, talk

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01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 2: to them like that should be I mean, obviously you

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01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 2: can get advice, but at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: the advice should be leading to you having a.

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Speaker 1: Conversation with your partner.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is personally, I think that's what friendship advice

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Speaker 2: is for. It's like, how do I express this to

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Speaker 2: my partner effectively