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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for joining us again. We are always excited to

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Speaker 1: come and talk.

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Speaker 2: Always, always always. How are you doing today, Susan.

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Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm good. How about you?

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Speaker 2: I'm great. Okay, we are going to get into more

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Speaker 2: of your fan questions, but first, I mean, who can resist?

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Speaker 2: We've got to talk about the Golden Bachelorette men. Tell all.

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Speaker 2: I don't know where to begin, but let me just

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Speaker 2: saying it was incredible. First of all, how cool is it?

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Speaker 2: I felt the whole love again, I felt the hope

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Speaker 2: last night, the camaraderie. Did you love how they brought

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Speaker 2: everyone up, many of them on stage.

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Speaker 1: And they brought their families, their kids were there. That

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Speaker 1: was so awesome. As a matter of fact, I text

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Speaker 1: the Mark I said, I'm feeling the love when he

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Speaker 1: wrote that note, yes, oh my gosh, that was so sweet.

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Speaker 2: So I thought, you know, when when you see them

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Speaker 2: crying in the camaraderie. We know women get together and

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Speaker 2: we cry and we hold each other's hands, but seeing

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Speaker 2: the men do that and their friendships are real too.

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Speaker 2: And I just loved how about Jack and his Hamburgers?

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Speaker 2: For all agree Jack's making hamburger, Susan, I mean they're

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Speaker 2: making meatful.

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Speaker 1: Agree with him. You do not put barbecue sauce on

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Speaker 1: a hamburger, and you don't overcook it. I agree with him.

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Speaker 2: And never hit the spatul and squeeze the juice at okay.

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Speaker 2: I loved that they looked back at the season. It

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Speaker 2: just gave and gave context to the whole season. But Kathy,

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Speaker 2: you were.

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Speaker 1: Right by saying they brought up so many different people.

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Speaker 1: They didn't do that for us.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, when we get our second turn at it, Susan, they.

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Speaker 1: Think because Faith talked really long that.

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Speaker 2: Lice and I was still explaining why I said zip it.

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Speaker 2: So you know, it just goes on. And but wait,

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you, Michael, when he said that

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Speaker 2: that last night?

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Speaker 1: No? No, he just had the name of his disease

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, Michael is a cancer survivor.

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Speaker 2: He talked about it last night. Yeah. No, that's a

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Speaker 2: different guy.

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Speaker 1: Who's Michael?

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Speaker 2: Different guy? Did you watch the show last night?

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Speaker 1: Dan loves it When she gets fresh with me, you

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Speaker 1: know it's going to happen when I.

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Speaker 2: See her, I love you. She's gonna shave my hair off.

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Speaker 2: Dan is one with the tremor. Dan Michael is the one.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how to help you here if you

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Speaker 2: haven't been watching the season.

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Speaker 1: He just answered a question.

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Speaker 2: Right. He's a good looking guy on the show who

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Speaker 2: last night talked about he was diagnosed with cancer right

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Speaker 2: before he came on the show, and he was talking

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Speaker 2: about how great the show was. It was just what

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Speaker 2: he needed in the spring he got from the guys

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Speaker 1: That's the guy from Florida. His name is not Michael, honey, Okay,

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Speaker 1: it was Dan that was talking about Susan.

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Speaker 2: Just can you just work with Michael? Michael is the

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Speaker 2: guy with cancer. We're using a baller time arguing. Just

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Speaker 2: say doaty, you're right so we can move on.

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Speaker 1: You're always right.

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Speaker 2: I'm not always, but I love that Dan. Speaking of Dan,

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Speaker 2: who's the guy with the dremmor talking You know they

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Speaker 2: were having a bromance, the emotional you know how much

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Speaker 1: It was for his year that he could have been really,

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Speaker 1: really bad. I know I'm thinking of when you're talking

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Speaker 1: about this I'm just I give up. I'm stuck here,

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Speaker 1: You're stuck. Get unstuck.

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Speaker 2: But the other thing I wanted to say, Katie bigger,

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Speaker 2: Katie bigger, And there, magically is a picture of Michael.

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Speaker 1: And there's Michael, and I thought his name was Dan.

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Speaker 2: No, there's a Dan. We're we're gonna a picture Dan,

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Speaker 2: just out bat. But my question twenty minutes ago when

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Speaker 2: I don't believe we heard it till last night. And

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Speaker 1: I think you're right, Kathy, because what I was thinking

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Speaker 2: Year and yeah, yeah. So Katie Bicker who is? She

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Speaker 2: and her fiancee Zach live in Austin, and Katie came

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Speaker 2: over to watch the show with me last night, Susan.

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Speaker 2: I swear she sat there. She had she's watched you know,

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Speaker 2: many of the episodes. But she started crying and I said,

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Speaker 2: oh I did, she goes, Kathy, this is so sad.

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Speaker 2: We're both sitting there tearing up. How you know how

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Speaker 2: you dealing with this? I said, I don't know. I'm

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Speaker 2: hoping we'll get all the tears out and then if

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Speaker 2: I get to meet her guys, one of them works out.

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Speaker 2: She was just dying laughing, but she I did.

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Speaker 1: It was so beautiful and how Charles l wait, the

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Speaker 1: world loves Charles. How about then?

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Speaker 2: We need to stop everything here right now. I would

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Speaker 2: like you to take a second, go and hail something

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Speaker 2: that will calm you down and get your head back

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Speaker 2: in the game. Please.

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Speaker 1: Today the girl stood up and said, we want you

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Speaker 1: to be the next Golden Bat.

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Speaker 2: Can we talk about his hair dye? Can we talk

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Speaker 2: about I thought I need to ask you about this, Susan.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was a little dark, but he's such

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Speaker 2: a sweet guy. And what about Pascal Wait, Pascal with

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Speaker 2: the face masks and the meditation, Joe.

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Speaker 1: Dere and the two frying pans Joan.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this this show should win an award. Last

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Speaker 2: night it had something for everyone. There was laughter, there

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Speaker 2: were tears, there was hope.

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Speaker 1: You know how about when Joan was trying to say

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Speaker 2: The blue birds are always Okay, we have got to

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Speaker 2: about this. My husband was an officer in the Navy,

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Speaker 2: I think I think it was a captain. The song

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Speaker 2: sitting with Katie and I'm like, oh my god, wait,

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Speaker 2: they're bringing a lot of single guys out. Maybe i

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Speaker 1: You're really talented. They said that song that they did

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Speaker 1: some justice to that song. No, he was how cute

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Speaker 1: it wasn't But the show just I don't know. I

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Speaker 2: This was so good. And the letter you touched on

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Speaker 2: it from Mark that.

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Speaker 1: Was just beautiful. That's something I related to that like

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Speaker 1: no other. And then he left a misticky note to

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Speaker 2: Men typically doing that. I don't just.

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Speaker 1: There are good people help good men out there, just

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Speaker 1: like women, but they don't always show it. It takes

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Speaker 1: a show where you're locked up in a place where

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Speaker 2: They don't show those things on an every day you know,

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Speaker 2: and I will tell you no, they don't. And one

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Speaker 2: of the other things, I just I love the show.

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Speaker 2: I just I left last night feeling great. I loved that. Uh,

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Speaker 2: they re showed, you know, how they were. They were

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Speaker 2: showing bits and bobs of the season with each guy,

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Speaker 2: And when they showed guy talking to Charles alabout I

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Speaker 2: started to tear up again. In fact, I said, if

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Speaker 2: she bit her tongue. I know. I messaged him last

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Speaker 2: night and I said, I'm so glad they played that.

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Speaker 2: It reminded me. That was such a kind gesture for

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Speaker 1: I mean, ah, I know, it was good. It was

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Speaker 2: What do you think Jonathan's met someone?

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Speaker 1: I know a few people.

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Speaker 2: I heard Marcus dating someone.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, there's pictures of her on the internet. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't believe everything I read, but yeah, I just

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Speaker 2: You know, what about you and me? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Well, not yet, just say it?

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Speaker 2: And what about Pascal say? I mean, look at we're

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Speaker 2: a great episode. What did you think about Pascal saying

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Speaker 2: you wanted to be friends with Joan? I thought Joan,

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Speaker 2: By the way, let's talk about Joan for a minute.

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Speaker 2: I thought she handled herself really well because with Pascal,

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Speaker 2: clearly was upset by that. You know, now we're down

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Speaker 2: to shock shocked by it? Yeah, shocked or chocked by it.

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Speaker 2: But I just thought she handled it.

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Speaker 2: Didn't you love the way she said last night? It's

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Speaker 2: okay he said, I want to be friends. It's just

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Speaker 1: Because she is happy.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of a plum. It's graceful, it is.

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Speaker 2: I think she's handled herself with dignity and was so

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Speaker 2: incredibly she Wow, do you want to borrow the night?

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Speaker 1: We are going to see them all.

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Speaker 2: That's right. I just not too long from now, like

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Speaker 2: less than a week. I want to know, do you

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Speaker 2: want to borrow the dress that Joan had on.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't do that. I could have a full off that.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's the probably she looks. I don't

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Speaker 2: on on the social I see, yeah, not.

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Speaker 1: Well, people have opinions, you know.

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Speaker 2: Listen, let me just say, Carrie, who is the stylist

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Speaker 2: think he has styled her beautifully throughout the season, and she's.

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Speaker 1: Got the body you can dress. I text him last

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Speaker 1: night as well. He's like, oh thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's He keeps telling me if I get married,

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Speaker 2: he's going to dress me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's something We'll take Carrie any day.

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Speaker 2: So what do you think?

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Speaker 1: I give the show a ten list.

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Speaker 2: I give it eleven out of ten. Wait, one more thing.

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Speaker 2: You see our girl Nancy, Yes, she looks so.

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Speaker 1: She's so pretty, isn't she? And she's so genuine. I

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Speaker 1: just love those cheeks in that face and that smile

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Speaker 1: and her advice was beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Nancy is truly like we've talked about this. You and

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Speaker 2: I sometimes are misread because we're silly and we make jokes.

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Speaker 2: But we both have a loving, you know side to

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Speaker 2: that out. Nancy is exactly the opposite. She just can't

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Speaker 2: be anything other than sweet and genuine and right.

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Speaker 2: Well, you and I just make a lot of jokes.

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Speaker 2: To introduce you Michael. This is Susan, this is Dan.

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Speaker 2: Look at them very carefully.

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Speaker 1: Leave Kathy, what do I look like?

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Speaker 2: Walking on everything else? Obviously, jeez, we're gonna we'll take We'll.

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Speaker 2: She's rarely wrong. I will say that rarely rarely. Okay,

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Speaker 1: All right, it's time for our question of the day, Kathy,

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Speaker 1: You're ready, all right? Can an ultimatum ever work or

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Speaker 2: First one is from Maggie, who's fifty one from Orange, California. Hi,

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Speaker 1: You know what that does? It really does. I can't imagine.

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Speaker 2: So Maggie, I would say, Susan's exactly right. It's hard

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Speaker 2: Those those Susan. Usually those people come from all over the.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't agree with Susan Moore. Let's say there's six

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Speaker 1: Explain for the guilt.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, I would say, I understand, you know you

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Speaker 1: We were been there for you, guys.

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Speaker 1: You're right, You're right, that's it. What else could she do? Yes,

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Speaker 2: Those couples to our bachelor party.

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Speaker 1: Call us, we'll come, and then they'll all want to

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Speaker 1: know what, we'll do a bachelorette party with you. Where

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Speaker 2: Us know, we'll do it with you, and we will

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Speaker 1: But don't think for one second that you don't deserve it.

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Speaker 2: This is one of the few questions we've had where

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00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 2: it's it's very black and white. Yeah, for me and

437
00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 2: for you, I think she's been is there for them?

438
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 2: And listen guys, if you're listening Sally's friends, Dude, I

439
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 2: have grandchildren. See if you can find someone to take care,

440
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 2: even if it's just overnight.

441
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 1: To me, now it's the shower and you have to

442
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: bring your child.

443
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 2: Okay, there you go, get a babysitter, work it out,

444
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 2: lay a couple hours, make an appearance.

445
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 1: You don't even have to stuy.

446
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 2: Sal's been a good friend to you. It's time to

447
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 2: pay back. It's payback time, and that's what you do

448
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 2: for friends. It's right, Oh, Kathy. The next one's from

449
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 2: a man. Oh wait, and you know where he's from, Rochester,

450
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 2: New York. Notice how I say that? People from how

451
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 2: do you say it? You would probably say Rochester, but

452
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 2: if you are from Rochester you.

453
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: Might think there was a d in it.

454
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 2: That's right, Just say Rochester. And my dad was from

455
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 2: Rochester and my husband was from Rochester, so I know

456
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 2: how to say it. Okay. Ed is forty four and

457
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 2: from Rochester, New York. Hello Susan and Cathy. Sorry for

458
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 2: such a sad question, but I'm curious if either of

459
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 2: you have any for caretaking for a sick elderly parent.

460
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 2: While I'm in my forties, most of my friend's parents

461
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 2: are still pretty healthy, so I don't really know who

462
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 2: to turn to. My dad passed away years ago, and

463
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 2: my mom is really struggling with dementia. I visit her

464
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 2: and spend time with her daily at her nursing home,

465
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 2: but the whole experience of being a caretaker for someone

466
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 2: you love and watching them struggle is so lonely and isolating.

467
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 2: I see firsthand every day how much she is suffering,

468
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 2: and my heart is just broken. Being a caretaker to

469
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 2: her as also put a pause on my dating life,

470
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 2: social life, and has even taken a toll on my work.

471
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 2: This disease is so horrible and can go on for

472
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 2: years and years. If either of you have any words

473
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 2: of encouragement or advice, I would really appreciate it.

474
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it is very sad. I remember my grandmother

475
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 1: going through it right now, and neighbor up the street

476
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:58,719
Speaker 1: is but I couldn't help. But notice she's in a facility.

477
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: Yeah right, So you don't have to be the full

478
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: time caretaker. You've got to excuse yourself. Not that you

479
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: shouldn't visit, you definitely should, but you still have to

480
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: keep a life and.

481
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, ed, just because if she's in a facility, and

482
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 2: you have a job. You have to be responsible to

483
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 2: all aspects of your life. You can pay honor and

484
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 2: respect to your mom by visiting her, but you need

485
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 2: to take care of yourself, which means showing up for

486
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 2: work and giving it your best. It means taking time

487
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 2: for your friends and dating life. Sitting with your mom

488
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 2: all day, all weekend is not going to bring her back.

489
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 2: It's not going to You're not You can't really live

490
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 2: those years and your it sounds to me a little bit,

491
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 2: not that I'm a therapist, but that you're mourning.

492
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: She she said, I don't know if she's at the

493
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: point where she doesn't recognize Sometimes they don't know who

494
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: you are or and sometimes people might feel the more

495
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: or they go, the better it is for her, you

496
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Yeah, I don't know the situation,

497
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:10,959
Speaker 1: but you can't forget about you. Yeah, and your mom.

498
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: You love your mom that much, it shows.

499
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 2: But you can't do it all. You can't do it all.

500
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 2: And you know what, I think if your mom were

501
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 2: of saying mine and wasn't struggling with dementia, she'd probably

502
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 2: say ed, don't be silly, go out, meet friends, for dinner,

503
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: have a date. Live your life. That doesn't mean not

504
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 2: to come see your mom at all. It just means

505
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 2: get a little more balance in your life at We

506
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: wish you all the best. We hope that your mom

507
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 2: just I don't know just.

508
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 1: And we agree ed this disease is horrible. It's it's

509
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: really sad, and it could go on for a long time.

510
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 1: But don't forget about you, because if you're not healthy

511
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: and you don't do you good, you're not going to

512
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: be any good to her.

513
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 2: That's what we do.

514
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: Wish you love and love.

515
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right.

516
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 1: The next one's from Lulu and she's thirty from Denver, Colorado. Hi, Hi,

517
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: Susan and Cathy. So fun to be writing into you.

518
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: I just had my first baby and wanted to know

519
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: your thoughts on an issue I'm having with my in laws.

520
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: They are unbelievably kind and generous and help us a

521
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: time with the baby, but they are both smokers and

522
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: have been for decades. I wouldn't tell them how to

523
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: live their life or to stop, but whenever they hold

524
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: our baby, she is handed back to me smelling like smoke.

525
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: I have been very clear that they can't smoke around

526
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: her and they respect that, but I can't stand that

527
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: every time they hold on my newborn baby, she reeks

528
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: of smoke. I don't want to tell them they can't

529
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: hold her or come over because they really are so

530
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: helpful and have been really amazing at helping us get

531
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: set up for our first child. Do you think there

532
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: is anything I can do about the smoke smell. We've

533
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: tried wrapping her in a blanket, but it seems to

534
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: permeonate everything. Ugh, let me know if you have any

535
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 1: advice on this. And thank you so much and I

536
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: adore you to ah Lulu.

537
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 2: Congratulations first yeah, first of congratulations, But here's the thing.

538
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 2: Your in laws. You can't make them quit smoking. If

539
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 2: they're smokers or smokers you, by your own admissions, say

540
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 2: they've been great help to you with the baby. Here's

541
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 2: the deal. When they leave, put a baby in the bathtub.

542
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: Or say something like, mom, could you wash your hands first?

543
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: Because I can smell an on her.

544
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 2: It's on your clothes. I'm sure it's all over their clothes.

545
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 2: Smokers clothes smell. It's in their hair, it's in their fingertips,

546
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 2: it's everywhere. And I don't blame you here's the good news, Lulu.

547
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: While it smells bad, it's not going arming permeate your

548
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 2: daughters or some I can't. But anyway, your baby's longest,

549
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: so at least you got that going for you. Just

550
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: just do, you know, do the best you can. And

551
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 2: when they leave, bathe the baby because they're not going to.

552
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: Cush the because they are good grandparents.

553
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 2: They're good, they love your they've just unfortunately have a I.

554
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: Think it grosses her out more than it does the

555
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: baby doesn't know, and the baby's not being affected. Like

556
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: you said, that's how they don't baby love.

557
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: The smell of a baby's head raptors. So you know,

558
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 2: I get it, Lulu. But here's the thing. Smoking is

559
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 2: a terrible addiction.

560
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: And it is I get it for a hundred years. Yeah,

561
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: and they would, but it never smoked around the child

562
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: or anything like that. So at least she's doing that,

563
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: or both parents both smoke.

564
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 2: At least is not going in the baby's long Yeah. Wow,

565
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 2: these are some hard questions.

566
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: It's making me sad, but it's game time.

567
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 2: So all right, it is game time and we're not again. Yeah,

568
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 2: I'm going to do moral quandary today. Susan please write

569
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 2: in Kathy loves moral quandary. Let's bring it back, but

570
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 2: today instead we're going to let our listeners get to

571
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 2: know us.

572
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: I think the listeners will be happy about.

573
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 2: Just say, we're going to switch off reading each of

574
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 2: the questions and we'll both give our answers. All right,

575
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 2: are you ready?

576
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: Yes?

577
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: I am all right. When you were a kid, what

578
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 2: was your dream job? Wow?

579
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: Okay, I know mine and what I wanted to be

580
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: a model and a flight attendant when I was young,

581
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: and I did both.

582
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: Actually, you know what I wanted to be when I

583
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 2: was a kid. What a broadcast journalist I wanted to have?

584
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 2: You know that when you were a little kid, you

585
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,479
Speaker 2: knew Yeah, I just always just really wanted to have

586
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 2: that microphone in my hand and doing it.

587
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: And you were made for it, Kathy, you really were Okay?

588
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: What error slash time of your life do you remember

589
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: fondly but you're glad you're past. An answer could be

590
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: like college, it was really fun, but you're so glad

591
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: that you're not stressed out nineteen year old anymore? Or

592
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: grade school, middle school, high school? What error of your

593
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: life do you remember fondly but you're okay? Ready past.

594
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: I know what mine is.

595
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 2: Walked and tell what mine is and then you can.

596
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: I love being a mom, and I don't believe.

597
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: You're studying this. Mine was parenting. Oh my gosh, we

598
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: are like.

599
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 2: I love raising gifts, but I now I don't like

600
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 2: giving my grandchildren back. But it's not my respect, you know.

601
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 2: It's a heavy and now I just get to give

602
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 2: them cookies. That not really I don't.

603
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: Do that, but I agree with that.

604
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: Yes, although come on, Susan, you and I both are

605
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: still parents to our children.

606
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: You never always, but you know, in the back to

607
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: school night and filling out the papers and all that

608
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: the homework was done.

609
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: And do you remember signing the homework, packing the lunches?

610
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: Yes?

611
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: Have you practiced your piano yet today? Have you done

612
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 2: your map over? Did you do the corrections on your

613
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: spelling test? Yeah?

614
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, okay, next one.

615
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 2: What is something about you that has changed the most

616
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 2: since your twenties?

617
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: My attitude? My body, my attitude more.

618
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: I was going to say my body, but tell me

619
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: about your attitude.

620
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: Oh, totally different attitude, although some of it is still

621
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: quite the same. Though, well always thought I'm invincible. You know,

622
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: it's I believe in the dream, and that part of

623
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: the attitude is still the same. Yeah, I was more carefree, Nell,

624
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: I'm more careful.

625
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 2: Oh the hell you are.

626
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: I was way worse than this.

627
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 2: Oh, dear God, you're lucky you're alive and breathing. If

628
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: this is you, if this is you? More controlled? Oh oh,

629
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 2: I would. There's two things. My body because I was

630
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 2: a lot bigger girl back in the day. But I

631
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 2: also think I'm a lot more confident now than I was,

632
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: even though I was married in my twenties. I got married, folks,

633
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 2: when I ten days after I turned twenty, I walked

634
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 2: down the aisle, So I was very young. I didn't

635
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: feel young at the time. I chose well, but I

636
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 2: was very young. So I just think I'm so.

637
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: Much changes from your twenties. You mature. I mean that's

638
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: your brain expands, you know, you learn How old were

639
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: you when you got married? I was late a mid

640
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 1: twenty seven? Twenty seven?

641
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean we're being honest.

642
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: I don't remember everything, but the confidence part came later

643
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: in life. Yeah, I always had some, but second guest

644
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: everything you know, we.

645
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 2: Don't second guess is we don't have time Susan, we

646
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 2: have time to second guest, take it, go with it

647
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: and run.

648
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, what's a hobby you've always wanted to

649
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: try but never got into?

650
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 2: A hobby?

651
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,919
Speaker 1: A hobby? Do you have hobbies? Yeah?

652
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 2: I needle point.

653
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: It's a hobby.

654
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 2: You don't have a hobby. I don't know.

655
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: Like a hobby is playing golf. That's a sport that

656
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: I like to do.

657
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 2: That's a hobby playing golf.

658
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: But I did get into it, so what.

659
00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 2: Okay?

660
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: When I think of a hobby, I think of people

661
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: go into like ceramic classes, but I never want I just.

662
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 2: Around the class ones. Oh my god, I couldn't believe

663
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: when you put in the kilne it didn't come out

664
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: anything looking like I did.

665
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: I would want to make like this stuff I saw

666
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 1: in Venice, you know, the glass not happening.

667
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 2: I don't think it's called a hobby. But something I

668
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 2: always wanted to do was really hoping. I hope the

669
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 2: producers are listening from The Golden Bachelor. Do you know

670
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 2: what I really wanted to do?

671
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: What host the shows?

672
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 2: Sky diving?

673
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 1: I would love that. I really want That's not nice

674
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: hobby either, Well it is if you do it.

675
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 2: Regularly.

676
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: Well, I guess it could be.

677
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 2: I mean, why not, right, I think I'd be scared

678
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,479
Speaker 2: to death. But it's one of those things i'd love

679
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 2: to do, conquer my fear and I do it in tandem.

680
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,479
Speaker 2: I would love to do it all right. Oh boy,

681
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 2: who was your favorite band or artist when you were

682
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 2: in high school?

683
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: Did I have a favorite led Zeppelin? I was a

684
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: rocker andles.

685
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 2: Did you like the Beatles?

686
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: Yeah? I like that. I liked all kinds.

687
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 2: I liked Simon Garfunkel. I tended I didn't like the

688
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: hard rock stuff.

689
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 1: As much Pink Floyd led Zeppelin.

690
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 2: Yes, you know who else? The brother the Moody Blues Blues. No,

691
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 2: the Moody, Oh no, oh, dear Lord Susan the Moody,

692
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 2: the Moody Blues. You remember them? Yes, great course I did.

693
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: I was a big, big music person, though. I Were

694
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 1: you like as a kid.

695
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 2: Kathy, Well, let's start.

696
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: Tell what do you remember that you were like?

697
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: I remember I was a kid who was the last

698
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 2: of five until my parents were divorced, and then I

699
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: gained a nine year younger brother. You know, he was

700
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 2: born nine years after I was uh around, and then

701
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 2: I gained a stepsister. So I was kind of the

702
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 2: kid vine for attention because I wasn't the oldest, I

703
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: wasn't the prettiest, you know. I was just I was

704
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 2: just trying to get someone to notice me.

705
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 1: I was the oldest, the first of five.

706
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 2: Oh you're the princess, and I was the first girl.

707
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 1: And my grandmother had all brothers and then three sons.

708
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: So I was the first grandchild and I was a girl.

709
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: Need I say more?

710
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 2: I was.

711
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: Very active on a show for my family athletic.

712
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 2: Were you athletic?

713
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,919
Speaker 1: I was a gymnast, yes, and a dancer, but I

714
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: was I liked attention. I would make people laugh, even young.

715
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: I put on little shows in my house.

716
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 2: I forgot about that I was an athlete. I was

717
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 2: always like. I played varsity tennis my sophomore year in

718
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: high school, which nobody made varsity. I played. I was

719
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: always in grade school. In middle school, I was a cheerleader,

720
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 2: and I was picked one of the first girls to

721
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: be picked, you know, for the kickball team or the

722
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 2: softball I love.

723
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: But in school I got good grades and I would

724
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: fail conduct because I was They used to say to

725
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: my mother, Susan likes to talk.

726
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: I was. I was the class clown. I won most humorous,

727
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 2: you know, the Halloween party funniest. Do you think I

728
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 2: got good conduct grades?

729
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: Uh?

730
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 2: Huh, you don't know, because you like to talk.

731
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: You like to tell people how to do it.

732
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 2: Not not in school, honey, E for excellent. Oh I

733
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 2: excuse me. My mother, my mother, my real mother, taking

734
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 2: a board and whacked me. If i'd come home with that?

735
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 2: Oh no, I was very I think that's why at

736
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 2: home I was so chatty kathy school. Yeah, well, all right, God,

737
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 2: who was someone that really inspired you when you were young?

738
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 1: Inspired me?

739
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 2: I mean this is you know what this sounds like?

740
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: What it sounds like the question you get on a

741
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: college I know who inspired me? Everyone always says the

742
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 2: grandmother of the grandfather or the father of their mother, you.

743
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 1: Know, my dad. But it wasn't inspired. I just listen.

744
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: I think one of my mom's friends.

745
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 2: Really. Yeah.

746
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: I used to love how she dressed my aunt Chicky,

747
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: my mother's sister, Like do you know what she had?

748
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: Like a twelve inch waste her whole life? You know,

749
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: you know cousin don well, her mom Chicky, Okay, and

750
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: she inspired my cousin Chick. Oh yeah, you've told me

751
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: that before. But I think she inspired me because she

752
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: was a single parent. Number one, She worked, and she

753
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: always dressed so cool like when she would come over,

754
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: and I was very inspired by her.

755
00:39:55,560 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: Interesting I think, aside from my grandparents and and my dad,

756
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 2: I would have to say, it was a college counselor

757
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: that I met when I was eight years old. I

758
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 2: still talk to them. She made me believe in myself.

759
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 2: She made me believe I could do anything. She taught

760
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 2: me how to swim, She taught me about poetry, she

761
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 2: taught me about books and reading.

762
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: She just that's awesome.

763
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a very cool one. Mary, you're listening.

764
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: If you could go back to any age for one week,

765
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 1: what age would it be? And why?

766
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: Who cares it's only a week.

767
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 1: I think it would be my late thirties, right hitting forty.

768
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what my week would be. I want

769
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 2: to know why, but it just really hit me hard.

770
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 2: I would go back to the week of my wedding

771
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 2: and I would love to relive it and see, that's

772
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 2: beautiful from the perspective I have now, Why why would you?

773
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: Because I would have done something that I didn't do

774
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 1: for twenty plus more years, not twenty.

775
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would, Well, I'm going to ask made a decision.

776
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: I would have made a decision, a big decision in

777
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: my life because at that age I knew I wasn't

778
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 1: happy in my marriage, but I stayed for my children,

779
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: which and I think things could have been different. So

780
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: if I got to do it over again, that's the

781
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 1: week I would change.

782
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 2: I guess. Wow, yeah, well that's big. You know that

783
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 2: takes a lot to admit that. Okay, what's a memory

784
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: from your teens that still makes you laugh to this day.

785
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: I was such an idiot? What did you do? It

786
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: makes me? Oh, gosh, I made everybody live. But a

787
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: memory for my teens, thinking I could get away with shit, Cathy, Like,

788
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: I was forbidden near Billy Patterson and he had a

789
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: big Harley and he was four years older than me,

790
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: so at that I was a teenager. My mother was like,

791
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: you are forbidden, and I would go out with him

792
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: and sneak. Of course, he'd picked me up somewhere else

793
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 1: and he would drop me off like across the street

794
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,479
Speaker 1: behind the houses, like that alleyway that we walked through,

795
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,919
Speaker 1: and I'd run through the little alley into my front door,

796
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: like nobody knows. And he would come down my street

797
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: and ram up the Harley, and my father and mother

798
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: would just look at me, like, you, some stupid girl

799
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 1: you were with him?

800
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 2: No, I wasn't.

801
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: No, I wasn't.

802
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 2: So bachelor Nation, since it has a tendency to lie,

803
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: we hope have grown. I don't know. I my teens

804
00:42:53,560 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 2: were not my bestest time. I struggled a bit. I

805
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: really can't. I mean, I love to laugh, and I

806
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 2: did laugh a lot, but picking out one thing.

807
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 1: I can name one hundred, well, I can name one.

808
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 2: I can name one. I think I've told you this

809
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 2: story before. My parents took us to the Bahamas and

810
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 2: there were you know, you imagine there were five of

811
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 2: us whatever, and my dad said, hey, let's sneak you

812
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 2: into the casino. And remember miss little do write me

813
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 2: was a dad. I was sixteen. I had a seventeen

814
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: year old sister, an eighteen year old stepsister, and a

815
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 2: nineteen year old sister. So the four of us were

816
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 2: going into the casino. Do you know we all well,

817
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 2: we weren't allowed. The age was eighteen, to be fair,

818
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 2: it was not twenty oh no, uh no, I think

819
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: it was eighteen anyway, guess who was the only one

820
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 2: who didn't get thrown out? Yew uh huh. And I

821
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 2: was doing this, I don't know. I had on a

822
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: didn't see you, that's why. Oh no, I was plenty large.

823
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: No.

824
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 2: I think it was just that I, you know, acted

825
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 2: like so stiff. I wasn't. I laughed after the fact,

826
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: but I was very serious, like I have to pretend

827
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: I'm old.

828
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: Here one another good memory, and I was a teenager.

829
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 1: We were I went to an all girls Catholic high

830
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: school and we were cheerleaders for the all boys Catholic

831
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: high school. We were going out for the homecoming queen

832
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 1: and I was only a junior, and I remember having

833
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: to stand on the stage and that they would question us,

834
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: give us questions. And they said to me, how does

835
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: the Catholic high school influence you? And I stood there

836
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: dumb and I went, it keeps me away from the boys,

837
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: well the nuns.

838
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 2: Everybody went greats.

839
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to think, and not only that

840
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: I was homecoming queen that year, first junior ever. Really, yes,

841
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: I think that question.

842
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: For she knows not what she says. There's no way

843
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 2: in hell season that was.

844
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: We can't make this shut up. Got I can't. I

845
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: just can't, all right.

846
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: Moving on, the next one is what's a fashion or

847
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 2: beauty trend you fall in the past that you regret

848
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 2: looking back. I've got that one so easily.

849
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: Okay, what is it?

850
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: My hair? You know, I've got this fluffy hair and

851
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 2: it's really hard to control, right, I mean, it's straight flat.

852
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 2: I know about your hair, I know, but when I

853
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: was in the eighties, I thought it would be a

854
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: really cute look to have perm.

855
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: Oh everybody have perm.

856
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 2: Oh no, but my perm with my fluffy hair, I

857
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 2: look like Shirley Temple rolled out of bed on a

858
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 2: bad hair.

859
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: I used to give Dicky perms. That was an error.

860
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was such a bad look. And I look

861
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 2: back on pictures now and my daughter said, you know,

862
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 2: in the family album, my daughter says, what the hell

863
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 2: were you thinking? I said, Caitlin, in twenty years, You're

864
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 2: going to look back at your pictures and I'm going

865
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 2: to say to you, what the hell were you thinking?

866
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 2: That It's called time. But oh, it was a bad look.

867
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: It was a bad look, all right. Culturally, what was

868
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 1: your favorite decade that you lived through and why I

869
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 1: like being a hippie. Loved being a hippie.

870
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: Did you wear that?

871
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: I didn't live through Woodstock? I mean I was too

872
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: young to go, but that was like my favorite.

873
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: Would your parents have let you go to Woodstock?

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00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: No? Hell no, of course not.

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00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 2: They would have lost. The Catholic girls were which the

876
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 2: bottom of the church singing Row row row your boat

877
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 2: with a bunch of girls roasting marshmallows.

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00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: It was your favorite.

879
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 2: Culturally got me the word culturally, I would have to

880
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 2: say the decade, probably in my twenties, believe it or not,

881
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 2: because I lived in when I was first married. I

882
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 2: lived in Scotland for two years and I loved trying

883
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 2: the food and meeting the people and just all the

884
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 2: you know, driving on the wrong side of the street,

885
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 2: all the things I learned about living in a foreign country.

886
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 2: And then later in my twenties, we moved back to

887
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 2: Boston so my husband could go to graduate school, and

888
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 2: I was close to You.

889
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: Were awfully young to do all that travel. That's pretty cool.

890
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It was fun and we

891
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 2: got to travel to the continent when we lived in Scotland.

892
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 2: But then we moved back to Boston. I loved all

893
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 2: the museums and the you know, just just the city

894
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 2: life of Boston was kind of cool. I got to

895
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 2: do a lot of things. Even though it's up in Boston.

896
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: I didn't go into the city that much. I grew

897
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 2: up in the suburbs. Yes, so that was I don't know,

898
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Speaker 2: that's what I think cool.

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Speaker 1: All right. What's something that exists today that you wish

900
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: you had as a teenager? For example, Netflix, cell phones?

901
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: What's something I wish we had computers? Because they had

902
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: Encyclopedia would drive me crazy when I had to look

903
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: up stuff. You know what.

904
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Speaker 2: I didn't know how I was going to answer for that,

905
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 2: but because I'm sort of with you, all the technology

906
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 2: that we have, but I think my favorite well, you know,

907
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 2: I can't live without my phone, so that's a given.

908
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 2: But I you know what, outside I love to read,

909
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 2: as you know, and I used to walk around with books,

910
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 2: like heavy books because I you know, if I had

911
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 2: ten minutes spare, I would sit and read. So my Kindle,

912
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 2: my reading.

913
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that.

914
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 2: It just popped in my person. I can I read.

915
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 2: But all technology would be tough. And of course, you know,

916
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 2: I grew up with black I'm not kidding. We got

917
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Speaker 2: color TV.

918
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Speaker 1: I don't know how old I remember when the color

919
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: TV came. We had black and white for a while.

920
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, I mean, just think about how far we've come.

921
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Speaker 1: What's one thing about you, Kathy that's never changed and

922
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: reminds you of your younger self.

923
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 2: Easy, my sense of humor, my sense of humor.

924
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 1: My gift of gab, my silliness. Yeah, always my talk.

925
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 2: My my propensity to talk all the time. But also

926
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 2: just laughing and making other people laugh.

927
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Speaker 1: Well, I hope everybody did get to know a little

928
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Speaker 1: bit more about us. Do you think we shared enough

929
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Speaker 1: with them? They know I'm a class clown, You're funny.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you want, if you want more information

931
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Speaker 2: about it, don't do a firm. Don't do not do

932
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Speaker 2: a firm write in, And if there's other things you

933
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 2: want to know about us, go to bachelornation dot com

934
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 2: slash ask us right your questions right.

935
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: And we'll answer them honestly, even if it's embarrassing, we'll

936
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Speaker 1: definitely ask I answer them.

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Speaker 2: All right. Well, now that you know everything about us,

938
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Speaker 2: that is going to do it for this episode of

939
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Speaker 2: Happy Hour. Thanks so much for joining us.

940
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: And listen to Bachelor, Happy Hours, Golden Hour, that's Us

941
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio, or wherever you listen to your podcast.

942
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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, guys, and I hope you enjoy this.

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Speaker 2: As much as we do. Have a great week, everybody,