1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: They've always been an organization that values production. But every 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: now and then, I think you can strategically say, Okay, 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: this one maybe falls outside the lines, but it's just 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: a pretty special talent. If you're going to take a 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: wide receiver to me, I don't really see the value 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: and sticking and picking. I would think at that point 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: in time, you trade back, get some extra value, and 8 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: you'll have plenty of good options there in the second round. 9 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: I'm gonna steal that. I'm still on that. It's gonna 10 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: be a path to the draft the next twenty four hours. 11 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: You just gotta give me credits. Do not do that, Garret. 12 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: There's no credit count about that is this is thievery. 13 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: This is just pure thievery. Welcome into the lounge. The 14 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: draft is less than three weeks away. It is here, Garrett. 15 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,319 Speaker 1: Uh And we have one of the biggest names, one 16 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: of the premier draft knicks. I don't know if he 17 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: calls himself a draft nick. Does anybody call himself a 18 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: draft nick anymore? Is that just a term I made up? 19 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,639 Speaker 1: I think you made that up. I think even when 20 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 1: you write that, you know, in Microsoft word, it comes 21 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: up as an inaccurate spelling it's just a yes, yes 22 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: every time. I just I just I just blow past 23 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: the man. I'll play by those us. I'm not surprised anyway. 24 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: We have Daniel Jeremiah from the NFL Network here, former 25 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: Ravens scout. Just he's he's got his finger on the 26 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: pulse of all things draft and many other things. So 27 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: this is one of the head honchos. Yeah, for sure. Daniel, 28 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: as I'm sure most of our fans know as the 29 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: NFL Network analyst, their top draft analysts. You can follow 30 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: him on Twitter at Move the Sticks. He also has 31 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 1: a podcast that he hosts along with Bucky Brooks, another 32 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: great traft analyst. It's to Move the Sticks podcast. So 33 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: a little plug there for for DJ's podcast. Um, and 34 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: I think most of our fans probably know this, but 35 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: Daniel was a long time uh he was a scout 36 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: before he was an analyst, and he was a scout 37 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: under a Costa giorities. Uh. He cut his teeth in 38 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: the Ravens organization. So he knows the inner workings of 39 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: this organization, um, better than anybody. He talks to a 40 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: lot of people in this organization. He's got a lot 41 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: of friends here, so he's got great analysis, and I'm 42 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: really excited to pick his brain on a variety of 43 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: topics because I just feel like this is a draft 44 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 1: where the Ravens could go so many different directions. Um, 45 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: They've got different holes to fill. They could trade up, 46 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: they could trade back. I mean, there's potential for them 47 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: to trade way up. I just think that there's just 48 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: a lot of moving parts this year, in my mind, 49 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: more than I can remember in past years, and I'm 50 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: really interested to see what insight he has on it. 51 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: One last thing about Daniel in his role with the Ravens. 52 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: You know, he used to be the guy. I don't 53 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: know how how many years he did this, but we 54 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: have video of him calling in the pick right, Like 55 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 1: he's in the Ravens draft room and he calls it in. 56 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: And do you think the Ravens would ever trust you 57 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: with that job, Garrett, or you just botch it, just 58 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: miss pronounces name. I would nail you and miss pronounce 59 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: the name. And they picked the wrong guy, you know, 60 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: like they took a guy who was expected to go 61 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: in the sixth round, Like it's like, how have Lamar 62 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: Jackson the quarterback from Louisville. But then there was also 63 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: a cornerback Lamar Jackson. I forget where he went college, Nebraska, Nebraska. 64 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: We end up with a corner from Nebraska in the 65 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: first round. Exactly. Yeah, you don't. You don't enunciate quarterback. 66 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: They're like, oh, oh cornerback. Yeah, yeah, we got you. Wow, 67 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: that's a reach, but all right, we got you. They 68 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:20,679 Speaker 1: never trust you with that. You know, I would nail it, 69 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: would nail. I knock it out of a car. So 70 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: all right, so let's go ahead and do not waste 71 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: any more time and jump into this conversation with DJ 72 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: thrilled to be here with you, Daniel. Uh, let's start 73 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: off the top here. I mean, you nailed your pick 74 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: last year with Patrick Queen in your final mock draft. 75 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: So first of all, I think, little pat on the back, 76 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: if you want to give it to yourself, go ahead, 77 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: you know. Uh, well, here's the problem. If I accept 78 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: the pad on the back from the Baltimore Ravens, I 79 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: don't know what the rest of the other like twenty 80 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: six teams due to me where I was nowhere near close. 81 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna I'm not falling for that trap. 82 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: That's the punch of the gun. That's the punch of 83 00:03:54,960 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: the gun exactly. That's just so. So I guess the 84 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: leading question is where you know, we're three weeks away 85 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: from the draft, how confident are you and that you 86 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: have the Ravens picking nail down this year. Uh, no, 87 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: no confidence whatsoever. First of all, it's a vault over there. 88 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: Those guys that'll keep everything close to the best, so 89 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: you're not gonna get anything out of the building. Um, 90 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: there's sometimes where you can kind of match up the 91 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: need and you're like, okay, this, you know, this kind 92 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: of makes sense and really really fits there. There's so 93 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: many different ways they can go. Um, and and where 94 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: they're picking. And this year, without the without the combine, 95 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: without getting out at pro days, um, you don't get 96 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: as much face to face time with these these teams 97 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: as you would in years past. So it's uh, it's unusual. 98 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: It's a little bit harder to get a gauge for 99 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: for what way they might be leaning. So Daniel, right 100 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: now your your pick. You know, as we're talking about 101 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: mock drafts, it's just continue the conversation there a little bit. 102 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: You have just Jason O, a pass rusher from Penn 103 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: State for the Ravens of seven. Tell me what you 104 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: like about him? Well, you know it's I've mentioned to 105 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: see other day on TV because you know that they've 106 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: always been an organization that values production, you know, and 107 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 1: so when you look at Jason Away, this flies in 108 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: the face of that and have a stacks here if 109 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: everybody knows. But to me, while the production might not 110 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: be there, the disruption is and he's somebody that just 111 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: creates a lot of havoc unique with his with his 112 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: size speed combination. Uh, he can collapse the pocket. You 113 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: see him convert speed to power, which is huge, and 114 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 1: he plays really really hard. And then you add on 115 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: top of that the character stuff is off the charts, 116 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: so you feel very comfortable from that standpoint. He's not 117 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: a finished product. Um, he still needs to develop a 118 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: plan as a rusher. But to me, I think the 119 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: you know, the canvas you have with to work with 120 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,559 Speaker 1: here is really really good. So it would be again 121 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: a little bit of a departure in terms of the 122 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: lack of production from what Eric and company have typically 123 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: done there. But I made an exception in this case. Yeah, 124 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: it's fun. You kind of took my follow up question 125 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: before I even got a chance to ask you I've 126 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: just been had it ingrained in me from hearing from 127 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: Eric over the years. You know, even Matthew j Ton 128 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: of Sack Production Dalen Ferguson was a guy set the 129 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: Sack record all the way back to Trell. So I 130 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: was like, they really seem to value that. But but 131 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: you think that he has enough tools that they could 132 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: overlook it. Well, look, you don't make a habit of 133 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 1: making exceptions, Um, you get yourself in trouble. But every 134 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: now and then I think you can strategically say, Okay, 135 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: this one maybe falls outside the lines, um, but it's 136 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: just a pretty special talent. So to me, that's why, 137 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: you know, I look at that as a as a 138 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: possibility there. Now you want to ask me what my 139 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: confidence level is? Maybe uh and most but uh no, 140 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: I do think trying to find somebody with some real 141 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: juice off the edge would be a priority. Yeah, it 142 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: seems like the verdict is really still out on how 143 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: to like rank those edge dressers. There's a bunch of 144 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: talented guys who are all going in the first round, 145 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: and everybody seems to have a different kind of lineup, 146 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: you know, And you know a Zzo g Lari is 147 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: another popular pick that we've seen a lot in Baltimore. 148 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: You know, how do you kind of rank those guy guys? Uh? 149 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: You know you obviously had a jilary going ahead, you 150 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: know of no way, you know, do you which of 151 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: those guys do you feel like if they're there? Oh? Yeah, 152 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: that's that's a perfect Ravens edge rusher, you know, yeah, 153 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: you know, I mean I think the guy who would 154 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: kind of make the most sense from that standpoint is 155 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: Whitty pay Um just because of how how hard he plays, 156 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: how physical he is. Um, he makes a lot of 157 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: sense there. I would say maybe a name that people 158 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: I think I might have put him there in one 159 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: of these mondrafts. But Joe try on from Washington where 160 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: I don't know that other people are as high on 161 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: him as I am. And maybe it's a scenario where 162 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: you know, Eric is able to trade back a little bit, 163 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: get some extra picks to take him at the thirties. 164 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: But for me, he has production. He's got the size 165 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: and the length, that big frame that you that you 166 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: want at the position and can play with some power. 167 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: So uh, that one matches up pretty well with kind 168 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: of historically what the Ravens have looked at Gregory Rousseau. 169 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: You want to talk about just the size, the length, 170 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: and the production. It's off the charts. Didn't play this 171 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: year and so there's pro day wasn't great And I 172 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: know some people are killing him on that because he 173 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: looked real stiff um, But if you look at his 174 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: ten time and his takeoff, he's actually got a It 175 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: was like a one five seven, which is incredible for somebody, 176 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: uh that big. So I've got burst, I've got length, 177 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: and he's got production. That's a it's a pretty good trio. Right. 178 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: I noticed you didn't have Davin Collins in your first round, 179 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: which was just kind of interesting to me. Do you 180 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, and because I look at him 181 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: and I know he's kind of a hybrid inside linebacker 182 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: kind of guy, and the Ravens are pretty set at 183 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: that position, but but Wink also likes that positionless football, 184 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: you know, and he seems to be a guy that 185 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: fits in there. Do you think he could be a 186 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: player that's of interest to the Ravens and would be 187 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: a value late first round. Well, I'll date myself a 188 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: little bit here, but to me, when I was looking 189 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: for comps for him, he was a taller a. D. 190 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: Dahlias Thomas to who he reminded me of. And you know, 191 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: Dahlias moved around in in Baltimore with Rex kind of 192 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: able to make that all work. Then New England pays 193 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: him a bunch of money and tried to plug him 194 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: in and didn't. It didn't work, and so was Aban. 195 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: I think Saban is a very special talent um. I 196 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: love his versatility, but in terms of like some of 197 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: that short, airy quickness stuff as an off the ball linebacker, 198 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: I think, okay, he's be lacking a little bit, and 199 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: then on the edge it is gonna be you know, violent, 200 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: physical enough to hold up there. So I have a 201 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: good grade on him. I can tell you where he 202 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: is on my overall list. I have him as my 203 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: twenty five player, so I have him as one of 204 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: my top thirty two players in the draft. But you know, again, 205 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: sometimes I like the position list thing too, especially guys 206 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: that can really run and cover um. But other teams 207 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: are saying, okay, we're exactly we're gonna you know, fill 208 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: him in and plug him in for where you can 209 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: be really successful. Right, So let's say look at wide receiver. 210 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 1: Obviously there's plenty of buzz about the Ravens taking a 211 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: wide receiver early even again after the addition, you can 212 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: just we can just run the tape from this question 213 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: from the last three years. We don't interview with Daniel. Um. 214 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,599 Speaker 1: But but do you look at you know, when you 215 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: look at these guys in the first round, uh, the 216 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 1: ones I think and probably getting the most buzzes potential 217 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: options for for the Ravens or Tarris Marshall Jr. Risha Bateman, 218 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: do you think that those guys would be good options? 219 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: And do you think that they are first round talents? 220 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: They're really good players. Again, I mean pull it up 221 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: here and see where I have them. Um. Terris Marshall 222 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: is my thirty seventh player. I think Bateman I have 223 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: in the forties. Bateman is forty eight. So for me, 224 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: it would be more of a trade down scenario than 225 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: than stick and pick um. You know, if you are 226 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: going to go wide receiver, just because as every year 227 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: there's just so many of them. Um. To me, I 228 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: think you get somebody else to pay a premium to 229 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: come up for maybe an offensive lineman or one of 230 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: those pass rushers. I think you would have an option 231 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: to kind of slide back a little bit if you'd 232 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: like to do that. So, if you're going to take 233 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: a wide receiver, to me, I don't really see the 234 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: value and sticking and picking. I would think at that 235 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: point in time you trade back, get some extra value, 236 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: and you'll have plenty of good options there in the 237 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: second round. Is Darius Tony in that same kind of 238 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: list for you? Kidarius to me is is you know, 239 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 1: doesn't really fit what I would think they would be 240 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: looking for. You know, Cdarius is really dynamic. Um again, 241 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: I think I feel like to have that type of player. 242 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: To me, I feel like trying to find that power 243 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: forward receiver would would be a little bit higher on 244 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: the priority list, which points to a guy like Terris 245 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: Marshall more than anybody else. Everyone talks about the draft 246 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: is dep at receiver. Who were and we spent so 247 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: much time talking about the first round, but who were 248 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: maybe some of the mid round guys that you do 249 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: like a receiver who could potentially help Baltimore. Well, there's 250 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: an intriguing group. I thought last year we had some 251 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: of the bigger guys in the second friend in the 252 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: second day when you look at you know, you had Mems, 253 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: you had Claypool. Um you had uh oh gosh, te Higgins. 254 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: There was a bunch of guys like big receivers, Pittman. 255 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: We we don't really have that many guys like that 256 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: in this year's draft class. But you know, outside that 257 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: first group, a little bit later on, you know, amanros 258 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: st Brown is kind of more of a slot receiver. 259 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: Nico Collins would be an interesting one who lost. You know, 260 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 1: he's lost weight since the last song, so he was 261 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: an opt out. But you go back and watch him like, Okay, 262 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: there's a big, physical, strong, powerful guy, and then he 263 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: shows up at the Senior Bowl and I'm like, where's 264 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 1: the rest of him? Like he lost like I don't know, 265 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: we lost like fifteen pounds some of that he was 266 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: he was six oh four one to fifteen and he 267 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: had played closer to thirty and then he ran four 268 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: four five, So, you know, dropping that weight, I thought 269 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: he quickened up a little bit. And so that's again, 270 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: you know, trying if you're trying to find that bigger guy, 271 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: that would be a name to me. I would keep 272 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: an eye on interesting. I need the Nico Collins diet. 273 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: That's what I need to do. Right there. I'm trying 274 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: to figure out the quarantine thing, where like some people 275 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: went way down and others went way up. I was 276 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 1: using it as an excuse. I mean, of course I 277 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: can't lose a bunch of weight. It's quarantine. I got 278 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: other people saying, yeah, I lost tons of weight. You know, 279 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: quarantine exactly. I mean, you know the Ravens thinking, and 280 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: you know how this offense kind of operates. You know, 281 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: it's a run heavy offense. And they already invested in 282 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: first round picking Hollywood. You know, they just went out 283 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: and got seeing me Watkins. Would would you be surprised 284 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: if they use their first pick, Let's let's not say 285 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: it's necessarily first round, but even a trade back into 286 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: the high second round. Would you be surprised if that 287 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: first pick was a wide receiver. I think I would 288 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: be a little bit surprised. Again, I I just think, 289 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: you know, trying to add more pass rushers, more pass 290 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: rushers is is kind of something I would look at. 291 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: I mean, the corner depth that they have was outstanding. Um, 292 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: but when you look at that defense, invest in the 293 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: linebacker position. Last year with Queen, I think again, trying 294 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: to keep keep that wheel spinning here and keep adding 295 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: more defensive lineman that can get home would make a 296 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: lot of sense. Oh wait, I forgot. I wanted to 297 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: ask you a follow up in the pass Rushers, just 298 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: to rewind go back there, um OJLR Right, So I 299 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: meant I brought him up if he's on the clock, 300 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: if he's available when the Ravens around the clock, did 301 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: they run that up there? I think he's a good 302 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: match with with what they look for and how he plays, 303 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: and again coming out of the SEC makes a lot 304 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: of sense as well. Um, for he's right about there 305 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: on my list. He's my Yeah, he's my twenty ninth player, 306 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: so he's yeah, he's right there. Um, he's a little 307 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: bit tight, he's got some ankle tightness, but again length, 308 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: speed to power, he's got a real good swite move 309 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: and he's done it in the SEC. I think those 310 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: are things that the Ravens have traditionally valued. If you're 311 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: gonna say, okay, who kind of reminds me of a 312 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: Raven type player? He fits the bill. You you really 313 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: like jail and Phillips, right, I mean, and that's a 314 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: guy who could potentially slide right, I mean, because because 315 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: there's a question marks off the field, we're kind of 316 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: retired from football, like like if we always feel like 317 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: with the Ravens, they never take except for in the 318 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: case of Ed Reid right when he was whatever the 319 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: player and four, like, they always get somebody that slides 320 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: like every year. So whenever it's like, oh, you say 321 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: he's the twenty seventh or twenty nine best player on 322 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: your board, I'm like, he's not probably gonna be the guy. Yeah, 323 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: So it's Phillips. The thing about Phillips though, The thing 324 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: about Phillips, So Phillips is a top ten player, like 325 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: he is a one of the ten best football players 326 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: in this draft. I kind of punished him, you know, 327 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: with some of the other concerns and on my list 328 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: to drop him to where I dropped him, which was 329 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: still um, he's like my twenty second guy. Um. Again, 330 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: if you're comfortable with him, he's one of the ten 331 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: best players in the draft. He's the most talented edge 332 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: presser in the draft class period. Um. So that comes 333 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: down to whether you feel comfortable with where everything is 334 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: that you don't see on the field of stuff you 335 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: gotta get comfortable with. That would be the question there, 336 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: right m hm. So you first of all draft. Something 337 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: that that surprised me a little bit was that you 338 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: additionally had the Ravens taking a safety um Trey von Morrig. 339 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: And they obviously have the shorting stacies with Chuck Clark 340 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: Deshaun Elliott, but what is it you like about him? 341 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: And felt like, you know, he could be the best 342 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: player available and the guy that you can't pass up. Well, 343 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: you know, as he used to always say, you know, hey, 344 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: we don't need to hit home runs to get doubles 345 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: in the first round. And if you're gonna kind of 346 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: describe a double um as somebody with you know, instincts, 347 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: you know, just he's he's reliable, dependable. There's no you know, 348 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: you don't see any kind of a roller coaster ride 349 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: with him every game. He just plays at a very 350 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: high level and you know exactly what you're getting, uh So, 351 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: a very high floor prospect to me, kind of fit 352 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: more of that mold that that Baltimore has had so 353 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: much success with They don't miss rarely miss um, and 354 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: to me, he feels like one of the safer picks 355 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: in the draft. So um, you know, having having uh 356 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: you know, players already in place at a position has 357 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: never stopped the Ravens from taking who they would deem 358 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: the best player available, right. I guess that would apply 359 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: to quarterback to corner back to I mean when they're 360 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: loaded a corner. But it's like maybe that the same 361 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: logic par probably applies there too. Yeah, I it's something 362 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: that's always been talking about in that room. You know, four, 363 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: if you have three corners, you need four. If you've 364 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: got four, you want five. You can afford to be 365 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: greedy at that position. And they're and as good as 366 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: shape as any team in the league. Right offensive line, 367 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: obviously that was a position that they wanted to address 368 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: this off off season. They already signed Kevin Zeitler, Uh, 369 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: you know, center, so we've looking at the center's kind 370 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: of and protecting that that could be a possibility, but 371 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: they haven't invested a lot at that position, at least 372 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: with high draft picks over the years. This year, there's 373 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: Landon Dickerson, there's Creed Humphrey, Quinn miners, Like, is this 374 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: the year if the Ravens are going to say, all right, 375 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: you know we're gonna we're gonna spend some some draft 376 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: capital on it. Is this the year you think that 377 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: they could do it, and that would be a wise pick, 378 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: and not in one, I mean not in round one, 379 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: but I think again, in a trade back scenario, we 380 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: collect some extra picks, maybe on Day two. Um as 381 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: a possibility, you've got some good options there. But again, 382 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: when you have a track record with undrafted free agents 383 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: at that position, there's kind of a there's a feeling that, hey, 384 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: let's address some of these other spots. We've got a 385 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: knack for kind of finding these guys and not only 386 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: you know, surviving with them, actually been pretty good football players. 387 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: So um, gosh, that goes all the way back. The 388 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: name is gonna escape me now in the early on 389 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl team, on the two thousand Bowl team, 390 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: Thank you, Mike Flint. Mike was undrafted, was undrafted as well, 391 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 1: So I mean this goes back twenty plus years where 392 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: they've been able to find that. So yeah, even those 393 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: good football players. If I'm in that room, I'm like, guys, 394 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: why would we do this? We can find these guys later. 395 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: The other option is obviously offensive tackle. You know, depending 396 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 1: on what happens with Orlando Brown Jr. Is this a 397 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: really rich class in offensive tackles? And you kind of 398 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: mentioned teams maybe trying to move up into the end 399 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: of first round. Could that be Baltimore staying and picking 400 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: one of those all things depending with Orleano. Oh no, 401 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 1: I think that's a possibility. Yeah, it's a good group. 402 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: It's a good group of tackles. Now, the arm length 403 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 1: on these guys was was underwhelming, um uh, compared to 404 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: what some of the previous years are. But we didn't 405 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: have the combine, so it's different. It's not everybody getting 406 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,719 Speaker 1: measured at the same by the same guy in Indie. 407 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: Um So. I think some teams are a little bit 408 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: skeptical of some of these arm measurements that have come 409 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: through this year, but I think there are They're gonna 410 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: be quality offensive linemen there. You know, we'll see Christian 411 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: Derrisaw from Virginia Tech is somebody that has a chance 412 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: to be there. We'll see what happens with Tevin Jenkins, 413 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: talented player at Oklahoma State Ikenburg as somebody that's really 414 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: well thought of around the league. And if you you know, 415 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: if Orlando get traded, you just go Notre Dame bookends, 416 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: um and then off you go. Right. Yeah, the Orlando 417 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: thing is is like kind of the great unknown, and 418 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: that there's gonna be a ripple effect there if the 419 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,959 Speaker 1: Ravens end up moving him. I mean, he's basically if 420 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 1: if the Ravens make that trade, they can move up 421 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: a significant amount, you would think, and you would they 422 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: would probably it seems like they would probably do that 423 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: with somebody in mind. Like if they're moving up ten, 424 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: I don't know how many fifteen spots, you know, in 425 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: the first round. Who would be the people that would 426 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: be worthy of that type of pick if there's you know, 427 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: and it's got to be a match. Obviously, the team 428 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: that's making the move would obviously need the tackle, and 429 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: you would want the player that's at that spot. That's 430 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: a that's an interesting one. You know, I have not 431 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: I've been focused so much on these top ten trades 432 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 1: and the quarterbacks, and I have you almost kind of 433 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: forget about the whole Orlando Brown situation. And I you know, 434 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: I was a proponent with the Sam Donald thing of 435 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: the Jets trying to figure out a way the package 436 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: Donald with a pick and and move all the way 437 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: up in the draft. And I actually loved the idea 438 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: of taking Orlando Um as a trade ship and then 439 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: maybe you go up to where the Chargers are picking 440 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: a team that doesn't have a left tackle at this 441 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: point in time. Um, and then all of a sudden, 442 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: now you're picking up there in the top twelve. If 443 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: you're the Ravens, Now you know who would be there 444 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: and who would be of interest to them. And I 445 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: mentioned Quitty pay earlier, Um is somebody that would would 446 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: make some sense there to get him a big time rusher. 447 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: You also, you know, I said, you know, I don't 448 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: think they go receiver. If you get up there and 449 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: now you're you're in the Wattle Davante Smith range, that 450 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: would be pretty tempting. I think if you're the Ravens, 451 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: I know, like, to me, you put either one of 452 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 1: those guys and plug him in that offense with Lamar 453 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: and be dynamic. Ravens fans are gonna love that idea. Yeah, yeah, 454 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: have to remember you're also losing Orlando Brown Jr. And 455 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: that yeah yeah. And then again, well, maybe you trade 456 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: up there and maybe it's you know, Rashawn Slater, Elijah 457 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: Barry Tucker or whoever, you know, whatever offensive lineman. You 458 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: kind of start to clock over again on a on 459 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: a rookie deal. But you know, the Ravens might be 460 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: in a situation where they say, hey, we can you know, 461 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: get a tackle here in the second round. Um, and 462 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: we can get a premier player there. I'm gonna steal that. 463 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: I'm stealing that. It's gonna be a path to the 464 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: draft the next one. You just gotta give me credit 465 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: that there's no credit coming about this. It's just pure thievery. 466 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: I'll give you a wink. You know what. You know 467 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: when basketball players, you know, they like getting ready shoot 468 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: a free throw and they touched their face to say 469 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: hi to their kids. I'll do that. You just know 470 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: I'm talking to you when I when I use, I'm 471 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: gonna be watching paths in the draft very closely. And 472 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: this is the worst. His head is getting so much 473 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: bigger now day. So this is Eric's third draft as 474 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: the GF. You know, how do you kind of evaluate 475 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: his first two drafts? And and is his style the 476 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: way he navigates the draft and handles it different from 477 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: Azzi's now that we have a two draft sample size. Yeah, 478 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: I mean Eric is always going to try and you know, 479 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: move around and create value and and uh kind of 480 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: understand the whole you know, the whole value of the 481 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: draft is something he's always been intrigued by. Um, maybe 482 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 1: a little bit more creative in terms of how he's 483 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: going about it, but at the end of the day, 484 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: it's still the same principles that they look for in players, 485 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: and it's why the track record has remained, you know, outstanding. 486 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 1: In the transition from Azzie to Eric. Eric has done 487 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: a great job of of kind of sticking to that 488 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: core philosophy that they've had there for a long long time. 489 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: And that's uh, you know, find it fast, instinctive, tough 490 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: football players that that kind of fit that raven mold. 491 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: And depending on you know, how you do it. If 492 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: you want to stick and pick, trade up, trade down, 493 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: you know, take current players, you know, think about compics 494 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: in the future, all that strategy. At the end of 495 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: the day, you gotta make a pick. And he's done 496 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: a great job of just sticking to the tried and 497 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: true format that's worked there for a long time. I 498 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: think the big one of the big obviously changes this 499 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: year is just the new comment you mentioned that, do 500 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: you think that the different process leading into this year's 501 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: draft will lead to more uncertainty on draft night and 502 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: potentially even more misses over the course of the weekend. Yeah, 503 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna look back on this and see 504 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: it's a pretty bad hit rate on this draft, just 505 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 1: because the information is not there now. I do like 506 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: the fact that kind of the pure football only evaluation, 507 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: you know, trust your eyes, trust the tape. But a 508 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: lot of times when you look at the missus, it's 509 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: because you haven't missed on the player, You've missed on 510 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: the person. And I think it's a little more difficult 511 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: to get a handle and get a feel on the 512 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: person when you didn't have scouts on campus and you 513 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: didn't get as much face to face time. So does 514 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: that who have a team like the Ravens, who just 515 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: have this track record of excellent scouts, you know, as 516 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: you like yourself, you know, who dig up that information? 517 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 1: You know? Yeah, relationships, It just comes down to the 518 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: relationships that you have, and they're going to be counted 519 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: on this year more than any other year. But even 520 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,959 Speaker 1: that being said, it's it's not the same. It's not 521 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: the same when you call somebody versus when you step 522 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: in their office or when you pull them aside on 523 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: the way out to practice. You're just gonna get better information. Well, Daniel, 524 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: I gotta end with this. You know, if the draft 525 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: isn't totally virtual this year, you know we're not going 526 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 1: to get to see inside these guys homes, right and 527 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: why thing? One thing I'm gonna miss is not getting 528 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: to see if John Harball added to his Birdhouse collection. 529 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: Do you what are you? What are your good call? 530 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: What are your feelings on the draft not being virtual again? 531 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: You are you gonna kind of miss it? How do 532 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 1: you feel about all that? I had a I was 533 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: thankful the draft one off last year because I know 534 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: there was a time when we were like, is this 535 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 1: even gonna happen? So I don't want to. I enjoyed it. 536 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: It was nice being home. I cannot wait to get 537 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: to Cleveland. I'm excited. I'm gonna go to the Rock 538 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 1: and Roll Hall of Fame. Hopefully mask up sneak into 539 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and then uh 540 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: and I'm I'm again. I'm just so happy that we're 541 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: gonna get to do this thing in person this year. 542 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: Nice cool, Daniel, Thanks so much for joining us. We 543 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: really appreciate it. Appreciate you guys. Well, some really interesting 544 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: stuff from Daniel. I thought particular on wide receiver. I 545 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: could just like feel Ravens fans hearts going just breaking 546 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: as he's like, nah, it wouldn't be good a good 547 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: move to take a wider. See you were the first round. 548 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,239 Speaker 1: Now you know he did say trade back and take one, 549 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: which stay fine, all right, get some extra picks and 550 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: still get the guy that Ravens fans like. That sounds 551 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: like a good scenario. Well, that's that's what this interesting 552 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: is like. Is terroris Marshall Jr. There in the second round. 553 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: Some drafts have him going in the first, but not 554 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: all his doesn't UM, And so you potentially could move 555 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: back to I don't know, say moved back ten picks 556 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: and then you could still get Bateman or Marshall. That 557 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: was really he had Bateman, it's like the best prospect 558 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 1: that's und I know. And and there are you know, 559 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: if you remember last year there was talk of the 560 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: Ravens taking Tee Higgins you know, um in the first round, 561 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: and he went in the second. UM. So you know, 562 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: those things can can obviously happen. But I thought that 563 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: was interesting. I thought that UM, that was kind of 564 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: an eye opener to me as as I listened to 565 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: him on that UM and then you know, I think 566 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: the wild card there, as we talked about a little bit, 567 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: is is the Atlanto Brown junior piece. And that would 568 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: be that that to me, it could be the most 569 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: exciting piece of draft weekend. And I'm not just saying 570 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: this because he liked my idea, but package Orlando, you 571 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: and you get up in the top fifteen and you're 572 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: in that potentially Jalen Waddle Davonte Smith category. Well, now 573 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: now you're one of the talks of draft weekend. And 574 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: that's that to me is an exciting part. As much 575 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: as I you would like to hold onto Orlando, if 576 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna trade him, you might as well be around. 577 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 1: And it's you know a little a little excitement. Yeah, 578 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: that that would be That would be very exciting. We 579 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: would all get out of work earlier. You know, we 580 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: wouldn't be picking. I've learned my lesson with that. I 581 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: now you gotta say, I gotta stay until pick thirty two, 582 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: no matter what better end until they turned the lights 583 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: on in Cleveland. Yeah. Well, the interesting thing about wide 584 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: receivers in the second round is I feel like I 585 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: feel like every single year this happens, right Like you 586 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: get out of the first round, and you're like, you know, 587 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: the second round would be a sweet spot for the Ravens. 588 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: The draft the wide receiver, and then all of them 589 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: are off the board in the first half of the 590 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: second round, because in part part of that is like 591 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,239 Speaker 1: you often have teams or you'll sometimes have teams that 592 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: drafted a quarterback or drafted a quarterback last year, and 593 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: they're looking to pair them with a weapon, right like 594 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: they do that kind of one two punch quarterback, wide receiver, 595 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: give him somebody to throw the ball to and let 596 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 1: that that duo kind of you know, blossom. And so 597 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: like you even saw that last year. I mean, here's 598 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: pick number thirty three, first pick in the second round. 599 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: There goes te Higgins, who was a guy who was 600 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: linked to the Ravens somewhat even in the second round, 601 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: potentially there goes Michael Pittman Jr. You know, one pick later, 602 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 1: there goes Lavisco, Channault, kJ Hamler, Chase Claypool, you know, 603 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: all those guys went by pick forty nine. So basically 604 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: by the first half of the second round, and so 605 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: and then you then I always just feel like the 606 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: wide receiver selection is slim by the time you get 607 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: to the end of that round. Uh So trading back 608 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 1: if like the wide receiver is what you want, if 609 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: you feel like that's really what we want to address. Uh. 610 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: I do think that trading back into that mix early 611 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: in the second round is a scenario that makes a 612 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 1: lot of sense, right I. I totally agree. And there's 613 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: been so many times you spent all day on Friday 614 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: after that first round and you're looking at all those 615 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 1: guys and oh, te Higgins is going to be there, 616 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: kJ Handler or whoever Tase Claypool and you're thinking about 617 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: that and then all a sudden boom boom, boom boom gone. 618 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: Now it ended up working out in the Ravens favor. 619 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: Last year they get J. K. Dobbins who just falls 620 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: into the lap. So it's hard to argue against the strategy. 621 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: But if you are trying to find that receiver, it 622 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 1: could be difficult. If you're trying to get him at 623 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: the end of the second round. Yeah, yeah, I agree 624 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: with that. I think passengers just intriguing man pass users, 625 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: just like I don't think anybody knows how that's gonna 626 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: play out, you know. I mean, early on, I saw 627 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: Quinny pay as a guy who was in the early twenties, 628 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: you know, going to Cleveland, you know one or whatever 629 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: two picks before. Uh, you know, so is that a 630 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: guy you could potentially slide? Is Jail and Phillips like, 631 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: we talked about a guy who could slide? You know, 632 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: which of those guys because there's so many options there, 633 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: which of them are going to be available at twenty seven? 634 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: I think is is the big question. It seems to 635 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: me like he is gonna in his final mock draft, 636 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: he's gonna have the Ravens taking a pass rusher like 637 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: he he wants. As he looks at the team, pass 638 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: rusher seems like the route that he's heavily leaning on him, 639 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: he's saying basically receiver, no interior offensive lineman, particularly center. 640 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: No um. He's like, okay, maybe you can take a tackle, 641 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: but it's just on the Atlanta Brown thing. Like I 642 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: I would be surprised if the Ravens don't trade Orlando 643 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: by the first round or in the first round, then 644 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: I think that he's gonna be on the team. And 645 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: so then if if like so, then when we're taking 646 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: a first round tackle right exactly, have that guy next 647 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: year maybe take over for Orlando like, nah, right, that's 648 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: my that's my thing. So I mean if you trade him, 649 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: then then that changes the calculation. But I just if 650 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: he's on the team when you're picking in the first round, 651 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: then it seems like there's a probably a good chance 652 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: that he's gonna be on the team this fall. So 653 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: so then tackle there probably doesn't make sense. So then like, 654 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: as you look at the needs, it's it's basically pass rusher. 655 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: That's right, exactly. Well, I mean that's why I'm leaning 656 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: that way in my seven round ring stock draft. Already 657 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: called my guy. You know, two days ago you called 658 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: Haterroris Marshal juice. No, I might call it a couple 659 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: of more pass rushers right now, block him off, block 660 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: them off. You can't take him, um, you know, I 661 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: mean because really it's a short, senior term and long 662 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: term need. I mean for Nomic feeds back on a 663 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: one year deal, right, Jalen Ferguson is going into his 664 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: third season, right, I mean, I think the jury is 665 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: still out on how big a role of Jalen is 666 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: gonna earn ultimately, you know, I mean they have immediate 667 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: and long term needs there. So it makes a whole 668 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: lot of sense to get one of those pass rushers. Yeah, 669 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: it was just Um, he has great insight, man, he 670 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: really does. UM And you can just like that. To me, 671 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: it was eye opening to to kind of as you 672 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: think through the positions and give the Ravens, given the 673 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: Ravens track record of success at certain positions, then it 674 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: makes sense as to why the draft could play out 675 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: the way it is, Like why they wouldn't take a 676 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: receiver in the first round. You know, if they don't 677 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: have them highly graded, they're not gonna reach like just 678 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: because they want another receiver. If if if DaCosta and 679 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: the Ravens front office board looks like Jeremiah's and they 680 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: have Brashot Bateman is the seven best prospect or whatever 681 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: he said, and Harris Marshall Jr. Is well, they're not 682 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: taking him a seven. They're not gonna go that route. 683 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: And and I just think that that is um. Hearing 684 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: from him always gives me a little bit of insight 685 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: into how the Ravens could be thinking. Well, plus, my 686 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: guy Sammy Watkins is gonna be here for five more years. Yes, 687 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: that's true, So there you go the wide receiver. True, 688 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: he got it done. You got it done. It done. UM. 689 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: So anyway, really great stuff from Daniel. Make sure you 690 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: watch Path of the Draft. Uh, tune in the NFL 691 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: Network for the NFL Draft, Garrett, what else have we 692 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: got dat? Yeah? Daniels everywhere. Man. You can watch him 693 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: on Draft week and watch them on Path of the 694 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: Draft on NFL Network and follow him on Twitter at 695 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: Move the Sticks and make sure you check out his 696 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: Moved the Sticks podcast, which you host along with Bucky Brooks. 697 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: So really enjoy the conversation with him. Over the course 698 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: of the next week. We've got some more heavy hitters 699 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: lined up. We're gonna have you know, one of one 700 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: of his competitors, the the original draft expert, Mel Piper. 701 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna have Mel on next week. So we're going 702 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: back to back with the two of the biggest in 703 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: the game. UH and the draft coverage. UM and let 704 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: us know if you have specific questions you want us 705 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: to ask mut email us of the Lounge at Ravens 706 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: dot NFL dot net. We'll try to get some of 707 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: your questions to meil next week. So that's it for us. 708 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. Move back to you next week. Six