Speaker 1: Welcome in. We'll driving the great Episode four fifteen. This
Speaker 1: episode has always is presented to you by our great
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Speaker 1: my favorite sports weekend of the year, NFL Divisional Round weekend,
Speaker 1: typically four absolutely unbelievable games. Usually you have at least
Speaker 1: six of the best eight teams in the league over
Speaker 1: the course of the season playing this weekend. This year,
Speaker 1: one could argue you have all eight of the eight
Speaker 1: best teams in the league playing this weekend, with the
Speaker 1: one exception being my Jags not making it. But I
Speaker 1: don't know who you'd put them over, the Bills who
Speaker 1: just beat them, the Texans, maybe the Niners in their
Speaker 1: current form. Whatever it is. Basically, all the right teams
Speaker 1: are playing and I can't wait to get to it.
Speaker 1: We also have coaching news from overnight and from since
Speaker 1: we last talk, so let's get right to it. We'll
Speaker 1: go to straight the voicemail brought to you by our
Speaker 1: friends at boost Mobile. Anthony Davis evidently out weeks and
Speaker 1: not months with a hand injury, not gonna have surgery.
Speaker 1: Yanna's booed by the Bucks fans, and then greats back
Speaker 1: that you're saying the fans.
Speaker 2: Are ungrateful, grateful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, here's here's the thing on that quickly, I don't
Speaker 1: I know Yannis took it as if they were booing him.
Speaker 1: I don't think they were booing him. I think they
Speaker 1: were booing the twenty twenty six Milwaukee Bucks. And I
Speaker 1: think that part of their frustration is that that team
Speaker 1: can be that bad despite having Yannis. But it sure
Speaker 1: seems like that relationship has run or is, you know,
Speaker 1: run its course, and that it could be the best
Speaker 1: for all parties to move on. But that was a
Speaker 1: I didn't like any of that. Yan looked really sad
Speaker 1: on the bench, and then afterwards he was like, I
Speaker 1: always boo when I get booed, but those are road games,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know. Also, just now, Jonathan Kaminga demanded
Speaker 1: a trade. That's he's never been happy there. And the
Speaker 1: really cool one point Slam sixty four person tennis tournament
Speaker 1: winner gets a million bucks. They played one point each
Speaker 1: game and an amateur ended up winning the whole thing.
Speaker 1: He beat Center in the round of sixteen because Center faulted,
Speaker 1: and then beat a young lady when she hit it
Speaker 1: out on in the championship. He won a million bucks.
Speaker 1: I actually watched that. It was pretty sick. Demons, how are.
Speaker 2: You, Cinema. I'm good. I'm doing pretty good this morning.
Speaker 1: No complaints right after you, either on the air or
Speaker 1: off the air. Last recording mentioned some stupid Twitter meme
Speaker 1: about like four pictures one picture or whatever, and all
Speaker 1: of us were like, we don't We weren't really familiar
Speaker 1: with what you were talking about. And you said, well,
Speaker 1: maybe this I'm showing my own immaturity or something. This
Speaker 1: is my algorithm. Yeah, the White House did one, so
Speaker 1: I don't know. Man, We're just living in the dumbest timeline. Reminder,
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Speaker 1: of John Harball going to the Giants.
Speaker 2: John Harbaugh agreed to go to the Giants last night,
Speaker 2: and a little bit before that, and shortly after our
Speaker 2: last show, Tomlin had stepped down as the Steelers coach.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that in a little moment, But what
Speaker 2: do you think about Harble going over to the Giants.
Speaker 1: I I don't say this often, but I totally agree
Speaker 1: with Dan Orlovsky. This is the best thing to happen
Speaker 1: to the Giants since they won the Super Bowl. They
Speaker 1: sincerely there are There are two things now. There are
Speaker 1: three things that really matter in the NFL to being
Speaker 1: a perennial contender and avoiding being a perennial laughing stock.
Speaker 1: The first one is avoid having atrocious ownership. So the
Speaker 1: Giant Stadium mates the Jets, they just have atrocious ownership
Speaker 1: that will always be in their way. I think the
Speaker 1: Browns have atrocious ownership that will always be in their way.
Speaker 1: The Giants have had one of those three kind of
Speaker 1: benchmarks down and they have good to very good ownership
Speaker 1: in the Maras. The second thing you need is a legitimate,
Speaker 1: true professional head coach. They now have that for the
Speaker 1: first time since Tom Coughlin. Obviously the third leg of
Speaker 1: that stool. If you will is the quarterback. I don't
Speaker 1: think they have that, but maybe they do, and if not,
Speaker 1: you'll see how you can paper it together while you
Speaker 1: try to find the quarterback. But if ownership will stay
Speaker 1: out of the way and you have a legitimate head coach,
Speaker 1: once you have the quarterback in place, you can instantly contend.
Speaker 1: The Bears and Patriots are showing you that right now.
Speaker 1: That and I've said this before, I will say it again.
Speaker 1: If you have the right coach and the right quarterback,
Speaker 1: the rebuild is somewhat instant. And if you have had
Speaker 1: the same coaching quarterback for two years, not four years,
Speaker 1: not six years, two years, and the team is not
Speaker 1: competing at the very least where playoffs are the expectation,
Speaker 1: then you don't have the right coach or you don't
Speaker 1: have the right quarterback. There are no instances of awesome coach,
Speaker 1: awesome quarterback, but it took us four years to get
Speaker 1: it together. That flatly doesn't happen. And so the Giants
Speaker 1: got the best coach that was truly available. And I
Speaker 1: say that because I don't think Tomlin is truly available.
Speaker 1: I think Tomlin's going to take a year off and
Speaker 1: survey the landscape because none of these jobs are great jobs.
Speaker 1: I ranked him on the TV show yesterday, but nine
Speaker 1: to one the way I had it. Let me pull
Speaker 1: up my exact list. Number nine was the Browns because
Speaker 1: of that ownership problem, because of the cap issues created
Speaker 1: by the Watson contract, and because they don't have a quarterback.
Speaker 1: Number eight is the Titans. To me, now, if you
Speaker 1: love cam Ward, then that job moves up the list.
Speaker 1: But even if you love cam Ward, they only have
Speaker 1: one other player on the roster you could love in
Speaker 1: Jeff Simmons. And ever since Amy Adams Strunk took over,
Speaker 1: they have just been a revolving door of front offices.
Speaker 1: They move off for abel that it's been a disaster.
Speaker 1: Number seven's the Dolphins, again no quarterback. They have not
Speaker 1: had a head coach there since Don Shula, lasts longer
Speaker 1: than four years, and they're in a rough cap position.
Speaker 1: The Cardinals I put it six because I think it's
Speaker 1: a very tough division and they don't have the quarterback.
Speaker 1: The Falcons are an interesting one, super soft division have
Speaker 1: won seven or eight games each of the last in
Speaker 1: seven of the eight last years. They do have some talent,
Speaker 1: and I don't think Blank's a terrible owner, so that
Speaker 1: you know it makes that a decent job. I put
Speaker 1: the Giants at four. They've got money, They've got a
Speaker 1: D line, they might have a quarterback. I'm skeptical, but
Speaker 1: that also is a I think not the hardest division.
Speaker 1: The Raiders. I put a three purely because I think
Speaker 1: if you believe in Mendoza, that number one pick plus
Speaker 1: the fact that, uh, you have a ton of money
Speaker 1: to spend makes that somewhat attractive. But that to me
Speaker 1: feels like a better job for a young, offensive minded
Speaker 1: guy that wants to grow with Mendoza than sixty two
Speaker 1: year old John Harbaugh. Now the flip side of that is, well,
Speaker 1: the Raiders don't mind paying coaches. The Raiders since Art Shell,
Speaker 1: which was nineteen ninety four. In the last thirty years,
Speaker 1: they have had two head coaches get more than three
Speaker 1: get at least three years, Jack del Rio and John
Speaker 1: Gruden twice, and they have had a dozen other coaches
Speaker 1: get less than three years. So they will that Hamster
Speaker 1: will will spin. And then the Steelers two Ravens one.
Speaker 1: Obviously Harball wasn't going to the Ravens. The Steelers, I
Speaker 1: think that they were not going to hire a coach
Speaker 1: his age, and because they want that coach to be
Speaker 1: there for fifteen some years ideally, And so I I
Speaker 1: think Giants are a great job for him. I don't
Speaker 1: expect a snap contention, but I do think that all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, the Giants could be a five hundred
Speaker 1: ish team next year. I think that's a legitimate possibility.
Speaker 1: And I want to see what Jackson Dart looks like.
Speaker 1: Don't love Scataboo and Neighbors both coming off major injuries.
Speaker 1: But this is a great day for Giants fans. Flatly,
Speaker 1: this is probably the happiest you've been since the Boat
Speaker 1: Party playoff game against the Packers with Odell and Eli
Speaker 1: at the end of ELI. And it's the best day
Speaker 1: for your franchise since you won a Super Bowl. All right,
Speaker 1: let's talk a little Tomlin here, Demonsey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Reid is now the longest tenured coach over
Speaker 2: there in camp the city. Do you think that Tomland's
Speaker 2: potentially waiting to take over Kansas City?
Speaker 1: So here's I don't think that necessarily, but I also
Speaker 1: don't think that's crazy. So the last head coach of
Speaker 1: the Steelers was Bill Kauer. Bill Kwer left after fifteen years,
Speaker 1: went to CBS and for about five consecutive coaching cycles.
Speaker 1: Demonsey Bill Kauer was the number one candidate, and he
Speaker 1: never left the job. He's still doing TV on CBS.
Speaker 1: He just stayed there. I do think it's on the
Speaker 1: board that Tomlin goes and does TV and never stops.
Speaker 1: And it's like, I can make I'm not making coaching
Speaker 1: money doing this. I mean, he was making twenty five
Speaker 1: million dollars a year reportedly from the Steelers, but I'm
Speaker 1: making millions and millions of dollars for two percent of
Speaker 1: the work. I love it. So I think it's on
Speaker 1: the board. It wouldn't be my bet, but I think
Speaker 1: it's on the board that Tomlin does not coach again.
Speaker 1: I think that's possible, okay, And because he's going to
Speaker 1: have such a great job, he can be and because
Speaker 1: he's young enough, he can be very choosy. So for
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin, my if I had to bet on the
Speaker 1: next job for Mike Tomlin, my bet would be the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles a year from now. I think that the
Speaker 1: is a job that will come open in the next
Speaker 1: few years, and that Tomlin that's a that's a great job,
Speaker 1: so when we're thinking of it. So the reason I
Speaker 1: don't think the Chiefs thing is a ludicrous idea is
Speaker 1: because at some point during Patrick's career, Andy's going to retire,
Speaker 1: and the moment that happens, that becomes one of the
Speaker 1: greatest job openings of all time. Again, assuming Patrick comes back, well,
Speaker 1: I mean Andy's older than you think, and so I
Speaker 1: mean Andy is in two months he turned sixty eight.
Speaker 1: So you know, again, the reason I think it's not
Speaker 1: far fetched is because or not insane, is because I
Speaker 1: could see Tomlin staying in TV for more than one year.
Speaker 1: Sean Payton stayed for one year and then the Broncos
Speaker 1: traded a pick to the Saints to get him. If
Speaker 1: Tomlin comes back in the next two years, his team
Speaker 1: would have to trade do some type of compensation with
Speaker 1: the Steelers. I don't think the Steelers, they would throw
Speaker 1: up too many roadblocks, but I could see. You just
Speaker 1: got to think about what are great jobs that realistically
Speaker 1: could come open. The Packers are a very good job,
Speaker 1: and it looks like Lafleoor's, you know, a little tenuous
Speaker 1: at the moment. The Eagles I expect to come open
Speaker 1: the Bills at some point, let's see, let's see how
Speaker 1: this year goes. And like the though, like McDermott is.
Speaker 2: Is Baltimore, Like I know, we don't have a coach
Speaker 2: right now, maybe we get a coach.
Speaker 1: Does well, that's the thing. So I mean, I think
Speaker 1: Baltimore is insane because it's open now. No, I just
Speaker 1: think because it's open now and he's not Taeo. He's
Speaker 1: not going there right right now. And so the what
Speaker 1: I was saying about McDermott is McDermott's kind of on
Speaker 1: the perma warm seat, and he could end that this
Speaker 1: year they win the Super Bowl, he'll be the coach
Speaker 1: there for probably the rest of Allen's career. Zach Taylor
Speaker 1: and the Bengals. The problem there is, I don't know
Speaker 1: that that's a good job, even though Joe Burrow is
Speaker 1: awesome because of ownership and so you just you look around.
Speaker 1: But my money would be that Mike Tomlin is going
Speaker 1: to be the coach of the Philadelphia Eagles in a year.
Speaker 1: That's where I that's where I would put my money.
Speaker 1: But I don't think. I also, I think there is
Speaker 1: a chance that in three years he's still doing TV
Speaker 1: and he come and what pulls him away from that
Speaker 1: is Andy Reid retiring. I think that's possible, all right,
Speaker 1: I know you got one more follow up.
Speaker 2: Do you think this eliminates any chance of Rogers coming
Speaker 2: back or at least at the start of the season
Speaker 2: for next year.
Speaker 1: He's definitely certainly eliminates any chance of him coming back
Speaker 1: to the Steelers, certain And I don't think Roger's gonna
Speaker 1: be a Week one starter for anybody next year. I
Speaker 1: still think he might play again, but it would be,
Speaker 1: you know, a mid season edition after an injury. All Right,
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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk Rams. Bears, Demons.
Speaker 2: See your MVP Matthew Stafford escaped Carolina last week and
Speaker 2: now they get to go and play the Spicy Bears
Speaker 2: who keep getting these improbable wins. Do you think the
Speaker 2: last week's game was too emotional of a too emotional
Speaker 2: of output for Chicago Bears and the fans this week
Speaker 2: to overcome I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: No, You're fine. I mean I do think there is
Speaker 1: an element of that game validated their season, and there
Speaker 1: was such a catharsis from that stadium to come back
Speaker 1: the way they did, to do it against that team,
Speaker 1: the hated rival, And I don't I thought the state.
Speaker 1: I thought the Bears crowd played a real factor in
Speaker 1: the comeback, and I just don't know that I expect
Speaker 1: the crowd to be a twelve out of ten again.
Speaker 1: I also think that the Bears injuries during that game,
Speaker 1: a banged up defense, losing another linebacker and the left
Speaker 1: tackle being out, maybe for next year as well, but
Speaker 1: certainly the rest of this postseason. With a blown ACL,
Speaker 1: they were already behind the eight ball here and now
Speaker 1: I listen. I think people know how much I like
Speaker 1: the Bears, how much I like Caleb, and how impressed
Speaker 1: I've been with Caleb's late game heroics. But I feel
Speaker 1: like they're going up against the best team in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and I I think, Demonse, they are going to need
Speaker 1: to score forty to win this game. I think the
Speaker 1: Rams are going to be able to move the ball
Speaker 1: at will against this Bears defense. I think what you
Speaker 1: saw Green Bay doing in the first half against the Bears,
Speaker 1: the Rams are going to be able to do the
Speaker 1: entirety of the game, and I think Davante Adams now
Speaker 1: knock some of the rust off in the last game,
Speaker 1: he will be a bigger factor. Puka is simply unguardable,
Speaker 1: and if I'm a Bears fan, I am just worried
Speaker 1: that it is. There are going to be guys running
Speaker 1: wide open all throughout the game. And like what we
Speaker 1: saw in that game for the Packers, even in the
Speaker 1: second half when who was the number six, oh, Kyler
Speaker 1: Gordon was getting picked on repeatedly. I think that Sean
Speaker 1: McVeigh is going to a big red circle around Kyler
Speaker 1: Gordon and hunt him. They probably can. The Rams have
Speaker 1: enough weapons they can stay away from Jail and Johnson.
Speaker 1: I don't know that the Bear's pass rush is going
Speaker 1: to be able to disturb Stafford that much because Stafford
Speaker 1: was Stafford was you know, pretty somewhere from pretty good
Speaker 1: to super exceptional in almost any scenario, but he was
Speaker 1: unbeatable if you didn't get pressure on him. I don't
Speaker 1: know if they're gonna get pressure on him. And I
Speaker 1: think this is a really tough game for Chicago. It
Speaker 1: would be remarkable if they win it. If they win it.
Speaker 1: They either are then hosting the Niners in a rematch
Speaker 1: of the forty two thirty eight classic that we saw
Speaker 1: in Week seventeen, except this one's in Chicago, or they're
Speaker 1: going to Seattle feeling like we've got the better quarterback.
Speaker 1: Let's see what the hell happens.
Speaker 2: But if Carolina could score thirty one, they could score forty. Huh.
Speaker 1: I actually don't think so. I think the Panthers game
Speaker 1: was misleading on the overall quality of that Rams defense.
Speaker 1: And I also still don't totally understand how the Panthers
Speaker 1: scored all the points they did. I the I mean,
Speaker 1: Bryce threw for two sixty, but they only ran for eighty,
Speaker 1: and it it was just good.
Speaker 2: They scored that, literally, that exact same amount of point.
Speaker 2: It's the last time they played them, so I mean
Speaker 2: there's something.
Speaker 1: And the Rams. The Rams defense, after starting the year
Speaker 1: off great, gave up thirty one to the Panthers, twenty
Speaker 1: to the Cardinals, twenty seven of the Falcons, thirty eight,
Speaker 1: and overtime to the Seahawks, thirty four to the Lions.
Speaker 1: As you mentioned, thirty one a couple weeks before that
Speaker 1: to the Panthers. The first time I think the Rams
Speaker 1: pass rush is going to have more of an impact
Speaker 1: in this game with that injury to the Bears starting
Speaker 1: left tackle again, I think kalab will play well. But
Speaker 1: and again we'll do our pick show tomorrow, but this
Speaker 1: feels like forty two to twenty seven to me.
Speaker 2: Like I I know, I mean, I do believe the
Speaker 2: offense is gonna be having for the Rams. I don't
Speaker 2: think there are too many problems.
Speaker 1: I just yeah, I just don't. I don't know how
Speaker 1: the Bears shut him is slow him down? Forget shut
Speaker 1: him down, slowhim down. This would be a to me,
Speaker 1: a remarkably impressive win. And the only way the Bears
Speaker 1: win that I can see is if Caleb plays the
Speaker 1: best game he's played as a prop. If you get
Speaker 1: late game Caleb for the entirety of the game, And
Speaker 1: I think that's just hard. It's a hard ask.
Speaker 2: So you hinted at if Stafford retired out of the
Speaker 2: NFC this this year, that Caleb would be the best
Speaker 2: quarterback in the NFC. How important is this head to
Speaker 2: add matchup in that theory.
Speaker 1: Well, I think that if he were to win this game,
Speaker 1: some folks would argue he doesn't need Stafford to retire.
Speaker 1: He's just going into next year the best quarterback. But
Speaker 1: I and I don't think Stafford's retiring, to be clear,
Speaker 1: But I right now would rather have Caleb than Dak
Speaker 1: or Jaden or Jalen Hurts or Jordan Love or Jared
Speaker 1: Goff or Baker or Purty or Donald. The only guy
Speaker 1: in the conference that I would rather have as my
Speaker 1: quarterback is Stafford. And I think that the only hole
Speaker 1: in Caleb's game right now is accuracy on easy throws,
Speaker 1: Like that's the one part of his game that is
Speaker 1: below average at this point. And I'm gonna give him
Speaker 1: credit that from year one to year two, the biggest
Speaker 1: thing he needed to improve on was not taking awful sacks,
Speaker 1: and he fixed it. And then during from the beginning
Speaker 1: of year two to the end of year two, the
Speaker 1: biggest thing he needed to improve on was the pre
Speaker 1: snap operation, getting out of the huddle on time, not
Speaker 1: having these procedural penalties, and he fixed it. So now
Speaker 1: the biggest thing he needs to improve is that the
Speaker 1: accuracy on what I would call simple passes. So I'm
Speaker 1: going to give him credit that he'll be able to
Speaker 1: fix that. So I I, you know, I am as
Speaker 1: bullish as one can be on Caleb, and I think
Speaker 1: he's just scratching the surface on who he can be.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the next game.
Speaker 2: Uh, Niners and Seahawks face off of the third time
Speaker 2: this year with the NFC Championship game on the line.
Speaker 2: We know San Francisco has been played with injuries and
Speaker 2: Darnold's teams to tense up in the bright lights. Which
Speaker 2: one do you think is a bigger liability in this game?
Speaker 1: I think it's the Niners injuries because I just I
Speaker 1: don't think Donald is going to need to have a
Speaker 1: huge game. I mean, these two teams have played twice,
Speaker 1: once in Week one, once in Week eighteen, and the
Speaker 1: final scores were seventeen thirteen Niners in Week one and
Speaker 1: thirteen to three Seahawks in Week eighteen. No George Kittle,
Speaker 1: poor Christian McCaffrey just being run into the ground usage wise,
Speaker 1: pardon me that Niners defense so incredibly banged up. I
Speaker 1: think Seattle, as long as Donald doesn't truly melt down.
Speaker 1: The rest edge is also so substantial for Seattle that
Speaker 1: you know, getting having the buye versus the Niners playing
Speaker 1: Sunday a Sunday war into a Saturday game. This has
Speaker 1: been a ten out of ten brilliant coaching season for
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan. But I feel like the end of the
Speaker 1: road is this weekend and it would them in back
Speaker 1: to back weeks, both games essentially without George Kittle. We'll
Speaker 1: see about Pearce all this week, but last week they
Speaker 1: didn't have him. Going to the defending champion Eagles and
Speaker 1: then going to Seattle and getting two wins would be
Speaker 1: all time stuff for an underman team. And I think
Speaker 1: Seattle has earned our respect. On their resume is they
Speaker 1: beat the Jags, they beat the Texans, they beat the Rams,
Speaker 1: they beat the Panthers, they beat the Niners. Their losses
Speaker 1: are a two point loss to the Rams, a three
Speaker 1: point loss to the Bucks, and a four point loss
Speaker 1: in Week one to the Niners. So two of their
Speaker 1: three losses they played that team again later in the
Speaker 1: year and beat them. That Rams loss, Darnold had five
Speaker 1: turnovers and they were still right there. Or four turnovers,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. And I just think that Seattle is
Speaker 1: too well rounded of a team, too healthy and too
Speaker 1: rested to lose this game. All right, What are your
Speaker 1: follow ups here?
Speaker 2: Did the committee hesitate or struggle at all to put
Speaker 2: a team with a shaky quarterback atop the tiers? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, Seattle has earned the right to be
Speaker 1: considered the best team in football.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if.
Speaker 1: They play the Rams, I'll pick the Rams, and if
Speaker 1: they play the Bills, I'll pick the Bills. I mean, so,
Speaker 1: I see Seattle has earned the respect that they get
Speaker 1: that that spot atop you know, everybody's power rankings. But
Speaker 1: when push comes to shove, I'm not gonna there is
Speaker 1: a level of trust I'm just not gonna be able
Speaker 1: to have in a Donald Stafford playoff matchup or a
Speaker 1: Donald Josh Allen Super Bowl matchup? What else you got here?
Speaker 2: So, Party, it sounds like you've kind of been changing
Speaker 2: your tone a little bit on your thoughts on him.
Speaker 2: If he goes and balls out against his defense, are
Speaker 2: you officially ready to give him a new conversation?
Speaker 1: Well, listen, I the games and how you play in
Speaker 1: the games have to matter. And even though Party had
Speaker 1: those you know, one really bad and one kind of
Speaker 1: bad pick against Philly, I thought, all things considered, that
Speaker 1: was an impressive, gutsy performance by him. If he follows
Speaker 1: that up and plays well and they beat the Seahawks,
Speaker 1: then of course then I have to I mean, I
Speaker 1: can't have.
Speaker 2: Where is he like top five?
Speaker 1: He would I don't know. I don't know, but I
Speaker 1: do know that I have been impressed impressed with how
Speaker 1: he played that Seahawks game, not at the end of
Speaker 1: the season, notwithstanding down the stretch of the season that
Speaker 1: Seahawks game, it was a rough one for him in
Speaker 1: nineteen or twenty seven for a buck twenty five and
Speaker 1: through the pick at the end, But I really liked
Speaker 1: his overall performance in that Eagles game, even though that
Speaker 1: pick near the end was really really bad. I thought
Speaker 1: the pastor McCaffrey was awesome. I thought his escapability and
Speaker 1: scrambles were really important. I was impressed by him in
Speaker 1: that spot. Like the games, particularly playoff games, weigh very
Speaker 1: heavily in how I feel, and doing it shorthanded and
Speaker 1: undermanned is wildly impressive. All right, let's talk about the AFC, A.
Speaker 2: Team that you have not believed in whatsoever playing a
Speaker 2: team that you have believed in through and through throughout
Speaker 2: the season, the Bills and the Broncos. Are you putting
Speaker 2: the Broncos on fraud watching this game.
Speaker 1: I don't think the Broncos are frauds. I do think, however,
Speaker 1: that if they lose this game, there will be a
Speaker 1: lot of looking through their season with a fine toothed
Speaker 1: comb and the question being asked, how good were they really?
Speaker 1: And I think that'll be fair. They are playing a
Speaker 1: shorthanded Bills team, they are at home, they are healthy,
Speaker 1: they had the bye, and this Broncos team that they
Speaker 1: had moments of wildly impressive play, but they also down
Speaker 1: the stretch of the season, they had one excellent game,
Speaker 1: the Packers game. They got blown out at home by
Speaker 1: the Jags. They're tied thirteen thirteen against what was left
Speaker 1: of the Chiefs. They are a two point conversion from
Speaker 1: Josh Johnson away or was it Marioda, I don't remember
Speaker 1: in that game who it was from losing to the Commanders.
Speaker 1: They beat the Raiders ten to seven. They beat the
Speaker 1: Texans eighteen fifteen in a game they knocked out CJ.
Speaker 1: Stroud Jets. Game came down to a potential field goal
Speaker 1: at the end. They they their holy shit. Look at
Speaker 1: the Broncos moments this year were the twenty one straight
Speaker 1: points to come back against Philly back in early October
Speaker 1: beaten the Cowboys forty four to twenty four. And that
Speaker 1: Packer game when bow Nicks played out of his mind
Speaker 1: and they beat the Packers thirty four to twenty six
Speaker 1: with you know, a late touchdown to ice the game
Speaker 1: when it was twenty seven to twenty six. It's not
Speaker 1: that that's not nothing, and the fact that they found
Speaker 1: ways to win matters. But if they lose to buff
Speaker 1: Last year they played Buffalo in the playoffs, they started
Speaker 1: the game up seven nothing, they lost the game thirty
Speaker 1: one to seven. The Bills, you now have a banged
Speaker 1: up Bills team. If you are the team, your fans
Speaker 1: and your coach more on him in a second, have
Speaker 1: sworn you are all year, you'll win this game. I
Speaker 1: have major doubts about it. And if they don't win
Speaker 1: this game, win there. I had this U Sorry, let
Speaker 1: me pull it up real quick. When you add the
Speaker 1: one seed and you add all of these things kind
Speaker 1: of working for you and next year, demonse. The Denver
Speaker 1: Broncos play in no particular order, the Bills, the Rams,
Speaker 1: the Seahawks obviously, the Chiefs twice, the Chargers twice, the Niners,
Speaker 1: the Jags, the Panthers, the which I get are a
Speaker 1: playoff team, not a great team. Of the playoff team.
Speaker 1: The Steelers, I'm leaving some. I left out one of
Speaker 1: their tough games.
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean I think that.
Speaker 1: Life can come like, yeah, life can come at you fast.
Speaker 1: Now the and oh the oh I left The Patriots
Speaker 1: are another one, and so big difference in how we'll
Speaker 1: view the Broncos if they win this game and losing
Speaker 1: the conference championship game, Sir, obviously, anything past that make
Speaker 1: the super Bowl, win the super Bowl. It's a thirty
Speaker 1: out of ten great season, but just winning the one
Speaker 1: playoff game, getting that the getting that monkey off your
Speaker 1: back is so important. And Sean Payton's been writing checks
Speaker 1: all year and up to an including this week when
Speaker 1: he was a total jerk to that reporter for asking
Speaker 1: about dra Greenlaw coming back for no reason whatsoever. I don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, a reporter asked him about dra Greenlaw attacking
Speaker 1: Downhill in the run game, and Trumpeton's like, what do
Speaker 1: you know about attacking downhill in the run game? You
Speaker 1: don't know anything about that. He's just when he feels
Speaker 1: like he's in the catbird seat, he doesn't appear to
Speaker 1: treat people that well and you win this game. You've
Speaker 1: been talking all year about this team being a super
Speaker 1: Bowl caliber. Last year you said, had you not gotten
Speaker 1: curb stomped by the Bills, you thought you were gonna
Speaker 1: beat the Chiefs, the team that then went to the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. You now have them in your building and
Speaker 1: you're rested, and the Bills have three receivers left. So
Speaker 1: we'll see again the Pick show tomorrow, but I'm leaning
Speaker 1: strongly Buffalo, and we'll talk more about the Bills side
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Speaker 1: demand before we play game the producers put together and
Speaker 1: get some of the questions from earlier in the week
Speaker 1: go ahead.
Speaker 2: Uh. Yeah, So we saw Drake May struggle a little
Speaker 2: bit against the charges of the big thing on them
Speaker 2: was their strength to schedule, and they haven't played anybody,
Speaker 2: and they played somebody, they struggle a little bit. So
Speaker 2: the challenge gets a little bit harder this week in Houston,
Speaker 2: and they have that hilatious defense coming at them. So
Speaker 2: how are you feeling about New England going up against
Speaker 2: Houston this weekend?
Speaker 1: Listen, I think that Houston defense has a chance to
Speaker 1: carry them all the way to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but.
Speaker 1: That Houston offense is so inconsistent it allows eat as
Speaker 1: bad as the Steelers offense was on Monday Night. That
Speaker 1: game seven to six entering the fourth quarter, It's ten
Speaker 1: to six before the strip sack touchdown. The Houston earlier
Speaker 1: this year forced Josh Allen into one of the worst
Speaker 1: games of his career and dominated the Bills. And despite that,
Speaker 1: with let me twenty five seconds left or with you
Speaker 1: no more than that, with I'm looking at it right now,
Speaker 1: with forty seconds left, the Bills have the ball at
Speaker 1: Houston's down four points, meaning even though the Texans played
Speaker 1: basically as well as you can play defensively, the Bills
Speaker 1: had a chance to steal the game. It's just such
Speaker 1: a hard way to do business when your path to
Speaker 1: winning these games is our defense is going to carry us.
Speaker 1: And while we have seen teams do it, I the
Speaker 1: games feel like they are gonna consistently be in the
Speaker 1: balance at the end the face.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: The most famous example of a team's defense in the
Speaker 1: modern Ish era carrying them to the Super Bowls the
Speaker 1: two thousand Ravens. That two thousand Ravens team allowed twenty
Speaker 1: three points total in four playoff games. They won their
Speaker 1: four playoff games twenty one to three, twenty four to ten,
Speaker 1: sixteen to three, and the Super Bowl thirty four to seven, Demons.
Speaker 1: And that seven, by the way, was a kick return.
Speaker 1: So it's not even it's it's not even that. So
Speaker 1: I said they allowed twenty three, they really allowed sixteen,
Speaker 1: And so the what are the other instances that I'm
Speaker 1: gonna pull it up right now? The two thousand and
Speaker 1: two Bucks would be the other another instance of a
Speaker 1: team's defense just dominating. That Bucks team allowed six points
Speaker 1: in Round one, ten points in Round two, and then
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl they won forty eight to twenty one,
Speaker 1: but there were multiple UH defensive so the defense, so
Speaker 1: that that Bucks defense that allowed twenty one points. Also
Speaker 1: Demanse had three pick sixes to score twenty one itself
Speaker 1: in the supermow Wow, and so, and the one other
Speaker 1: example would be, oh sorry, hold on, just real quick.
Speaker 1: The one other example would be the twenty The twenty
Speaker 1: fifteen Broncos UH defense was dominant, but they had Peyton
Speaker 1: at the helm, and even though Peyton was not really
Speaker 1: Peyton that year, it was still Peyton manning and it
Speaker 1: felt like he could at least put the offense in
Speaker 1: good positions. The twenty thirteen Seahawks are a team that
Speaker 1: comes to mind, and they might be a better example
Speaker 1: of kind of what I'm worried about for Houston, that
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen Seahawks team. They're twenty thirteen as dominant as
Speaker 1: that defense was. The Niners have the ball down six
Speaker 1: inside the ten yard line in the final moments of
Speaker 1: the game, and that's when we got You try to
Speaker 1: test me with a sorry receiver like Crabtree. That's what
Speaker 1: you get from Richard Sherman. They were still one pass away.
Speaker 1: It's just a hard way to do business. And so
Speaker 1: I also think the Pats, on the other hand, are
Speaker 1: so much more dangerous now that Drake May got those
Speaker 1: first playoff game. Jitters kind of out out of the
Speaker 1: way because you saw him play better in the second half.
Speaker 1: What was your I interrupted you. What was your question?
Speaker 2: Oh? No, I was saying, were you arguing that those
Speaker 2: defense were more dominant than this Houston's this Houston Texans defense,
Speaker 2: because I mean it sounds like those scores are pretty crazy.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, the two thousand Ravens most dominant defense
Speaker 1: in forty years, right, I mean that's a that they're
Speaker 1: in a separate category entirely. So with us described it,
Speaker 1: I think it might be on par with the Legion
Speaker 1: of Boom defense. And but the Legion of Boom at
Speaker 1: least had good Russell Wilson and Marshawn Lynch and CJ.
Speaker 1: Stroud's just been so bad.
Speaker 2: Do you think he's still a franchise quarterback or and
Speaker 2: he just lost his wide receiver? One? Is Nico even
Speaker 2: playing right?
Speaker 1: I mean, Nico's probably I would be shocked off Nico place.
Speaker 1: It's weird because Stroud and Josh Allen are the only
Speaker 1: quarterbacks to both win. They're the only quarterbacks in the
Speaker 1: league to have won a playoff game each the last
Speaker 1: three years. But Stroud was bad Monday night. Yeah, his
Speaker 1: previous playoff victories, he hadn't been bad. He was bad
Speaker 1: in that one.
Speaker 2: What do you think is on the board with Drake
Speaker 2: May and a good performance against his defense?
Speaker 1: I mean that would vault him if Drake is I
Speaker 1: think there are ways for New England to win without
Speaker 1: Drake being really good, because I think the Texans defense
Speaker 1: is so shaky or Texans offense, part of me is
Speaker 1: so shaky. But if Drake lights up this defense, that'll
Speaker 1: be the performance of the postseason so far. We'll give
Speaker 1: you our picks on the Picks Show, which comes out tomorrow.
Speaker 1: But evidently there was a the Olympic ticket draw for
Speaker 1: LA residents yesterday. To Monsey, explain this to how this worked,
Speaker 1: and then we'll do this before you get to the
Speaker 1: listener questions.
Speaker 2: So yesterday LA residents were able to enter into the
Speaker 2: ticket raffle for the twenty the ticket draw for the
Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight Olympics. If you get drawn in March
Speaker 2: in April, you get a you get a shot at
Speaker 2: buying first tickets. Yeah, you're able to pick from five sports.
Speaker 2: I picked four sports. You're gonna guess what my sports were,
Speaker 2: and then you'll take it. And then you'll you'll tell
Speaker 2: me what I should pick fill my final spot with.
Speaker 2: And then lastly you'll tell us what you're looking most
Speaker 2: forward to in the twenty twenty twenty eight Olympics.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, you definitely your four two were obvious.
Speaker 1: You definitely picked basketball, bear, You definitely picked track and field.
Speaker 1: Am I wrong?
Speaker 2: I did not?
Speaker 1: You didn't Track and field should have been the number one? Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: then that has to be your fifth pick. That's the
Speaker 1: single best ticket.
Speaker 2: I like tracker field. I just when I was going
Speaker 2: through and seeing all on the list, there were somems
Speaker 2: that popped out more to me than others. But but yeah,
Speaker 2: I did not pick track in the field.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, that one that has to be your fifth.
Speaker 1: I think you might have picked flag football. I did, Okay,
Speaker 1: I thought you might say flag football. I think you
Speaker 1: might have picked boxing.
Speaker 2: I thought about that one pretty heavy. I did not
Speaker 2: pick that one, but yes I would have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you pick three on three basketball? No, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't either. I think that's smart. This is interesting.
Speaker 2: They got flag football, basketball, and then there's two more.
Speaker 1: Beach volleyball.
Speaker 2: No. I thought about that one too.
Speaker 1: Did you pick any combat sport?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, I thought you might have gone taekwondo or judo, skateboarding. No,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm not gonna get closer to home than
Speaker 1: what did you pick? One of them was diving. I
Speaker 1: like diving, and I just think it's so hard and
Speaker 1: just seeing them pull that type of stuff off. And
Speaker 1: then lastly, lastly, we got tennis.
Speaker 2: They got tennis.
Speaker 1: No, I love tennis.
Speaker 2: You know all the talk about it throughout the show,
Speaker 2: I've I've gained a liking to it, you know mevv Djokovic.
Speaker 1: All right, mine, here's what I would not have picked
Speaker 1: tennis because I can see tennis elsewhere.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is the Olympics. It's not the not the
Speaker 2: best guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yeah, but the best guys playing all
Speaker 1: the majors. So I if I could, if so, here's
Speaker 1: what I would have picked. Track and fields my number
Speaker 1: one pick with a bullet.
Speaker 2: I mean, because isn't that just like a large umbrella
Speaker 2: of a bunch of a bunch of stuff. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: eat there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all the Yeah, but that's the The field
Speaker 1: stuff is not as fun, but just the track one
Speaker 1: hundred meter, the four by four, all of it. So
Speaker 1: i'd pick track and field. I think I would pick
Speaker 1: water polo, okay, which is awesome. I would pick gymnastics.
Speaker 1: The two hottest tickets are going to be track and
Speaker 1: field and gymnastics every time, no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: And I would pick swimming.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't that one. I can't get on the
Speaker 2: other ones. I do find exciting watching as well.
Speaker 1: Diving not really, but maybe it's because I can't do
Speaker 1: a regular dive, so I'm not as the impressed by
Speaker 1: it as you are. But I like stuff that I'm
Speaker 1: not going to be able to watch elsewhere. So like
Speaker 1: I would consider rugby boxing is interesting because it's so
Speaker 1: much purer than than regular boxing. Lacrosse is a great sport,
Speaker 1: but I can watch that elsewhere. But if you get
Speaker 1: these tickets to Monsey, I'll buy them, Like if you
Speaker 1: get selected, but you have to put track and.
Speaker 2: Field crazy, But yeah, no, I'm down for track and field.
Speaker 1: Well, to be clear, I didn't mean I'll buy him
Speaker 1: and give them to you. But I mean him saying
Speaker 1: if you get well, maybe maybe I don't know what
Speaker 1: I'll do, but I'm saying, if you get selected, don't
Speaker 1: say oh no, I can't afford them. We'll figure it out. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, let's get to some of the listener questions
Speaker 1: from this the it was from Tuesday and then Thursday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, Anaki says, one question from a fan in Spain.
Speaker 2: Do you think the Bills could beat Denver or Houston
Speaker 2: with the type of methodical drives they had in Jacksonville?
Speaker 2: I can't see Shakir with sixty one yards after catch.
Speaker 1: No, I think that against either of those defenses, Josh
Speaker 1: is gonna have to run a little more. But I
Speaker 1: also think they wouldn't need twenty seven points to beat
Speaker 1: either of these defenses.
Speaker 2: All right, Next, Acuity says, if anyone not named Stafford
Speaker 2: or Allen win the Super Bowl, can we avoid the
Speaker 2: whole Hurts is the top five quarterback thing again just
Speaker 2: because he wins the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: Listen, I think the I think that Jalen Hurts had
Speaker 1: legitimately had a claim after last year Super Bowl was
Speaker 1: top five quarterback. He is a couple of years removed
Speaker 1: from finishing top three and MVP voting. He was unbelievable
Speaker 1: in the final two weeks of the playoffs. Last year
Speaker 1: they won the Super Bowl, like that was Mahomes Allen
Speaker 1: Lamar Burrow. Hurts was a fine opinion to hold. He
Speaker 1: then fell some this year obviously, so the like he's
Speaker 1: you are not like if Bo Nicks wins the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: I don't think or Sam Darnold. I don't think people
Speaker 1: are gonna say that guy defended that guy's top five quarterback.
Speaker 1: Hurts had a bigger body of work, including a previous
Speaker 1: Super Bowl appearance. Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Khalil asked do you think Houston is scarier now since
Speaker 2: they won? Like that was CJ playing bad.
Speaker 1: I would feel that way if they if I thought
Speaker 1: CJ was a about to start playing well. But I
Speaker 1: just think that's what CJ is going to be doing.
Speaker 1: Like so no, I don't think they're scarier, all right.
Speaker 2: Next, the lilte Man asked question for Demons when healthy,
Speaker 2: based on the playoff runs you've seen this far, who's
Speaker 2: having the more magical year Caleb Williams this year or
Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels last year? And I'd had to say Jayden
Speaker 2: Daniels last year.
Speaker 1: I think Jayden last year was more impressive up to
Speaker 1: this point. And what Caleb's done, what Caleb's doing feels
Speaker 1: sturdier for me than Jayden. And you know, we'll see
Speaker 1: and we'll see how much of this for Jaden was
Speaker 1: just injuries and whether or not he's going to be
Speaker 1: able to fade those injuries moving forward. All right, let's
Speaker 1: go to some of the questions from today.
Speaker 2: Curtis asked, out of the remaining playoff teams, who is
Speaker 2: most likely to miss the playoffs next year? And who
Speaker 2: do you think could get even better next year?
Speaker 1: Out of the remaining playoff teams. Out of the remaining
Speaker 1: playoff teams, the team I think is most likely to
Speaker 1: miss the playoffs next year is Denver. Is that schedule
Speaker 1: that I just laid out to you. Yeah? And the
Speaker 1: team that I think get better next year is the Bears.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely.
Speaker 1: The Yeah, though the Niners should be healthier, but I
Speaker 1: don't you know, they won twelve games anyway, and so
Speaker 1: I don't know how much better they'll be, all right,
Speaker 1: last one?
Speaker 2: And then Scott asked Nick, who goes after Malik Willis Cleveland,
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh or do you see him elsewhere.
Speaker 1: Not Cleveland. I think Pittsburgh's a possibility. I think Arizona
Speaker 1: is a possibility. I think that Miami is a possibility.
Speaker 1: And I think the Jets are probably the favorites for
Speaker 1: him because now that Dante More is going back to school,
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're gonna do. All right, Demanse
Speaker 1: beat me in picks last week. He has been the
Speaker 1: gambling stage of the show this year. There is teasers crushed,
Speaker 1: and then in his picks against the spread he went
Speaker 1: four and two. We will get to our picks from
Speaker 1: last week and our four picks for my favorite sports
Speaker 1: weekend of the year in tomorrow's show, which we're about
Speaker 1: to do right now, So we appreciate everybody listening. Check
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