WEBVTT - More Conversations About Latinos And The “N” Word 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:04.360 What's up And welcome back to another episode of No 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:07.440 Sealers Podcast with your hosts now fuck that with your 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:17.320 loaw glasses Malone. That's how we start in Black History month. 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:23.840 Out My Man Jobs Intellectually Petty Radio. Make sure y'all 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:26.119 check out that if you hear the No Sellers podcast. 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:30.280 My Man Jobs here Intellectually Petty Radio. I brought my 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:33.400 brother Trap Trap is from New York City, Queens to 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:37.440 be specific, when we come to Borough conversation. To double 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:43.600 back on the conversation, because I felt like the last 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:51.120 time meet Jobs and Pete talked Jobs made me feel 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:55.760 like I was the only person that this type of 0:00:55.840 --> 0:01:00.680 camaraderie happened with to people from different nationalities that came 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:03.360 up in the same community. And I'm sure Jobs, you 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:09.000 understand that New York has the same things or a 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:15.240 level of congruency that happens with different nationalities and different 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:19.360 ethnicities that culturally represent the same thing in New York. 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:22.640 Yeah, yeah, I would agree with that. 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:30.960 So trap me job, Trap me job. So you had 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:39.240 time job to you had time job to, uh to 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:45.240 digest our first conversation. Is there any flex at all? 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:45.560 Now? 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:48.960 I'm not asking you the flex on who you allowed 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:52.200 to use the N word. That is not what I'm asking. 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:55.800 I'm saying, do you have any understanding on exactly what 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:59.120 I was saying based off of our prior conversation. 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:03.120 Oh, I get it, I get the proximity, I get 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:06.440 the culture aspect, I get to growing up. I just 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:09.119 think that, like I said last time, it's not that 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:13.480 part per se. It is the arrogance to feel like 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:17.760 all niggas think the same. I don't have that same 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:21.679 background you've got. I didn't grow up next to whomever 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:24.079 or whoever the people I grew up next to look 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:32.359 like me. So my ownership of certain things is completely 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:36.440 different culturally in some aspects than yours of my man's 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:39.359 in New York, because you'll experience growing up is different. 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:45.040 There's certain foods that aren't being transferred between my community 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:49.760 and another community. There's certain you know, slang, certain ways 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:52.040 that you treat people, you know, certain rules in that 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:55.160 particular community. We ain't got that. So I don't feel 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:57.160 like I should have to deal with somebody from the 0:02:57.600 --> 0:02:59.880 community coming to my community and say a nigga. 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:04.120 No no, I'm not saying again like when we first 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:08.239 did the POD, I wasn't trying to convince you to say, 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:10.400 hey man, there's a space where you should let somebody 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:14.600 of Latino origin call you. Then word that they may 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:16.800 not be your w word. I was expressing to you 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:20.600 how it happens for me. Trap why do y'all let 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:24.720 it's even y'all left? The Latinos in New York said like, what, 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:26.000 what's a fair way to even? 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:32.960 Nah? So, so basically it's I mean, if someone's if 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:35.520 someone's raised upon your community with you, you know what 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:38.400 I'm saying, y'all, And y'all go through y'all don't been 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:40.120 through the same struggles, you know what I'm saying, And 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:44.000 and and basically you could look upon them as being 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:46.200 you know what I'm saying, your brother or so like that, 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:49.680 and y'all using the same language that y'all all using 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:53.480 the same language basically, you know what I'm saying. So, 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:57.440 so when they when they they not just they're not 0:03:57.480 --> 0:03:59.600 just looking upon us and calling us you know what 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:01.680 I'm saying that and or nothing like that. They're calling 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:03.839 you know what I'm saying, that the person who looked 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:05.760 like them or or you know what I'm saying, They 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:09.840 surrounding everybody's surrounding. It's becomes a part of the language 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:11.760 that we all using at that time, you know what 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:17.839 I'm saying. So it's it just looked upoint like that though. Really, 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:22.080 you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, that's that's basically 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:24.440 what it is though. Really, But I but I can 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:27.920 understand why people people from the outside that's not from 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:30.360 the community that we're from, you know what I'm saying, 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:32.720 don't speak the same language that we speak, could look 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:34.400 at it like, you know, you got that person right 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:38.720 there using that using that that that word that that 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:41.360 our people have been held back with and been called 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:43.520 from all these years and stuff like that. I can 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:45.840 understand how somebody that's not from the community looks at 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:48.520 looks a point like that though. But but at the 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:50.120 same time, I look at it, you know what I'm saying. 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:53.080 It's things that I'm gonna look at that they that 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:55.200 they do upon their community with their you know what 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:58.479 I'm saying, with their surroundings a certain way though too. 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:02.560 So I don't knock it though. It's that is. 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:04.960 When community becomes a real thing and not just this 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:07.760 justified time to talk about Black America. When it's when 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:11.040 it stopped when it truly becomes community, not so much 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:14.719 Black America that's referenced as the black community. Pete, have 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:19.760 you digested anything since our first conversation with jobs about this, 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:23.480 Have you thought about it at all any thoughts? 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:29.440 Yeah, it's still I mean, really it's it to me, 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:34.120 is more so just a matter of scale and and 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:41.360 what defines the word community and who's doing the defining. 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:43.359 It's very subjective in that space. 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:43.919 You know. 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:52.039 I'm not sure if it's bluntly speaking, white political interests 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:56.840 or just the organic black individuals within Black America, the 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:59.119 cells that want to try to lump all of Black 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:04.359 America into easy to access group, you know, So like 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:06.159 it can be a little bit of that to some 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:07.799 of it is maybe one, some of it is maybe 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:10.599 the other. It just depends on how each individual wants 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:11.520 to go about his day. 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:14.359 I agree with that. I definitely think we hear black 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:17.080 community and that's the normal standard. And like I've stopped 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:20.080 people from saying that to me. A guy on Twitter 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:23.680 said to me weirdly, he was talking about doctor Dre, 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:28.359 and doctor Dre was saying how he understood why Kendrick 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:30.680 went to the next level in the battle. He said, 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:34.919 he's normally about pushing positivity, but he can understand. Once 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:39.280 the owl referenced his wife and his child, you know 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:42.479 what I mean in a song, and he understood why. 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:44.680 He was like yo, adios, like it's off with his 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:49.240 head and people. Obviously these are people that are part 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:51.800 of the parliament. Again, like I said, a group of 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:55.360 owls as a parliament, I mean like like a flock 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:59.040 of seagulls or a murder of crows or heard of. 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:03.400 You know, no doubt we learned something every day. Messing 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:07.080 with that, right. I read. 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:09.880 I read all the time, so I'm sober and I'm 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:11.480 reading all the time. Then I send it to peat 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:12.280 and humor him. 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:15.400 I mean on the Serengetti Pride months is really just 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:16.440 about the lions there. 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:20.160 It is there. It is my man when it comes 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:20.760 down to it. 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:30.960 So those sealings, those zealings glasses below executer Bos got 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:34.040 my brother jobs again, my brother trap go ahead jobs. 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:38.680 There. There's there's macro culture and then there's micro culture. 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:41.320 But but what I mean by that that there are 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:43.600 certain things that I could go to New York right 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:46.560 now and hang out with my man, and there will 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:50.480 be some things that we would just annoyingly have in common. 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:53.600 That would be our macro culture black culture. 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:59.160 Give me some ideas of black culture every day. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:04.040 If I walked into his apartment and I smelled hair burning, 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:08.520 I would know exactly what that was. If I walked 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:11.440 if I walked in there and I smelled some greens cooking, 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:14.280 and I don't even like greens, I would know exactly 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:15.040 what that was. 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:17.360 But you don't. You don't think that we're kind of 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:21.600 using something that macro that's probably not macro. Like we're 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:24.960 still speaking on specific experiences for some black people, Like 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:28.080 greens is not a standard in black people's life, Like 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:31.160 that's more of an again, like I said, to be specific, 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:35.760 an American slave cultural experience. I'm sure if somebody's family 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:38.760 wasn't a part of slavery in his country, I don't 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:40.040 know if they ever had greens. 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:44.840 That's probably small portion than it isn't though. 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:49.800 That's exactly. Yeah, somebody walk in your house and says, oh, 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.240 I don't know a black person, I don't know what 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:56.760 greens are. I've never heard of that before. You're gonna 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:59.520 tell me your antennas don't go up about this particular 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:01.960 black person and something right with them. You may not 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:04.560 like greens, you may not eat them, but you ain't 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:06.440 never heard of no motherfucking greens. 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:10.120 And you're black. But wouldn't every American probably heard of 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:11.040 greens at that point? 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:11.880 Absolutely not. 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:14.240 You don't think white people heard of greens. 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:16.240 There are some white people that have. There are white 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:17.559 people that love greens. 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:19.839 No, no, no, not. Obviously they're to. 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:22.280 Utah, and ask the white people in Utah about greens. 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:23.439 They don't know nothing about it. 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:27.120 I think in my generation, and I could that could 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:31.360 be speaking to a whole lot of time ignorance. But 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:34.280 I feel like a lot of aspects of some of 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:39.120 the more insular nuances of black culture got made mainstream. 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:41.400 I agree, more. 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:42.360 So in the last twenty years. 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:47.200 Again, it could be wrong, so that might be a 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:49.120 different answer now than it was then. 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:52.360 But I get the point the sentiment. 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:55.360 Yeah, But what I'm saying to jobs is this goes 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:58.079 back into that same thing where we are speaking Macro. 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:02.160 He's right, right, like the mo your population are definitely 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:06.000 descendants of some level of American slavery at some place. Absolutely, 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:11.440 But again it starts to ostracize the people who aren't, 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:16.240 And to me, that's where like, I'm careful, that's why 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:22.040 I try not to use black cultures in that regard. 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:26.719 I get it, most of us that I know are 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:30.000 the descendants of some level of the American slave trade. 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:31.079 And I'll put it this way. 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:35.960 Let's say to look at and it's an interesting question. 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:37.880 I'd like to ask jobs this like, you're, you know, 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:42.880 jobs from Detroit. Obviously, so if you were before a 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:47.280 massive population shift of black people from the South into Detroit, 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:49.480 if you were like just black and from Detroit before 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:52.480 then you were never a slave or never a descendant 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:55.920 of people who were a slave. You're then culturally going 0:10:56.000 --> 0:11:01.160 to be engulfed by this massive populationlationships of people to 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:04.480 which you would likely assimilate back to the center point 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:06.400 culturally over to generations. 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:07.000 Is that fair? 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:11.520 But well, so you would have to but hold up jobs, right, 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:12.959 you would have to go to excuse me, he was 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:14.600 asking you a job. I'm sorry, I. 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:18.079 Would just agree, yeah, yeah, But I would think. 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:21.319 If you came from money, there's no reason to assimilate 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:26.400 back into poverty because remember greens is still right now, 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:28.960 soul food is an expensive thing, right now, you gotta 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:31.280 have money of these soul food to be honest, like true, 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:33.040 oxtails caused more than steak. 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:37.440 But now we're keeping it, were keeping it on the 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:40.760 on the on the greens thing. They don't they don'e 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:43.680 took greens and like they don't made it into something 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:48.600 that everybody's experiencing that I'm saying, it's Americans. 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:50.640 It's transformed into the delicacy realm. 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:54.000 Yeah, American America slave culture is very much Maria stream 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:55.000 at this point. 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:56.960 Cultures. 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:59.240 But if you walk into the average white people's house 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:01.719 and you say certain things, they won't know what you're 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:02.520 talking about. 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:06.880 Like which one depending on the location that's I'm like, 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:07.320 what's fun? 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:09.240 Which words do you feel like you would say that 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:13.679 they would know? In twenty twenty five, with all these 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.959 hip hop records and TV shows and films. 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:21.199 Shit, man, I mean parents, Just to be fair, there's 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:23.840 a language out there that I don't know that black. 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:28.800 But I'm saying, we're talking about Black American, Yo. When 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:32.560 you say black America or black culture, Like, I agree, 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:35.360 your parents are part of a different generation. What is 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:36.520 something Pete would know? 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:40.679 I'm a bad example. My friends from high school would. 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:43.680 Say, okay, sure, yeah, it's friend from high school that's fair, 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:44.760 not Pete. 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:48.640 That your friends from high school, Like. 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:50.240 What do you think we could say that they'd be 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:50.959 Like when. 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:53.400 I grew up in a very insularly white environment. 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:58.959 Most white people still have no clue with cat means. 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:03.840 Might yeah, that's exactly what they. You know, when you 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:05.960 say no cat, I don't have a hat on. 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:10.080 I know you think somebody thirty would know what no 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:12.840 cap means. As a white person, most white people. 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:15.199 First off, when you think of white people, you think 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:17.840 of white people that are in your proximity. 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:20.880 Pete is the only white person in my proximity. 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:23.120 With what I'm saying, in your proximity, I mean like 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:27.120 there are white people that you'll come across in California, 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:31.840 but if you drive across this country, most of the 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:40.400 white people live in Utah, in Nevada, in Colorado. That no, 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:43.400 the motherfuckers have no clue. My bad. 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:46.000 It's a good song, it is. 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:49.880 The motherfuckers have no clue with no cat means. 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:52.360 But you don't think at that point that's something that's 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:55.000 an Internet slang versus black culture slang. 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:58.559 But the Internet works on algorithms, so you could be 0:13:58.960 --> 0:13:59.840 separate from that. 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:02.920 At that point if you're tuned into it. Wouldn't that 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:05.640 be the like no cap is a hip hop word? 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:08.800 Well, I think a lot of that. I think a 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:10.079 lot of things that people. 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:14.680 White communities just based off of algorithms and my own 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:19.560 personal social isolation and whatnot, that I don't know about. 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:22.160 Like what's something happened in the white America that we 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:23.160 don't know about? 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:29.240 I don't know. Probably I can't answer to what I 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:33.480 don't know. But when I'm around they're talking about ship, 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:35.160 I don't know what the fuck they're talking about. 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:41.120 I just I just think, Look, I don't even want 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:42.560 to God, I don't even want to do that. What 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:51.920 I'm to your point, jobs, I'm saying, I'm not trying 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:54.640 to convince you why anybody else should use the N 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:57.400 word around you. I think that's the point of how 0:14:57.400 --> 0:15:00.520 we all grew up, right. I just think it's just 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:04.200 weird to guys it under a level of culture that 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:09.080 specific thing, right, it is to a degree, But it's 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:13.320 that word specifically, and it's different because you're right, we 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:15.920 talked about it. Who grows up in Detroit besides just 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:16.760 straight up brothers. 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:19.840 I mean, now it's a little bit more diverse. But 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:22.160 for the most part, Like, especially when I was growing. 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:25.920 Up, y'all to have anything except slaves, people that. 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:30.440 In Arabs, like Detroit. The Detroit area has the biggest 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:33.560 population of Arabics in the country. 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:36.600 Okay, what about ghetto Arabic people? Do they live in 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:37.000 the ghetto? 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:39.040 Ye live amongst each other? 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:42.000 No? Not really, well a little bit now, Like on 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:44.720 the fringes of there's the city called Dearborn, and that's 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:48.440 kind of like, you know, their home base. But on 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:52.680 the fringes of Dearborn and Detroit, you're seeing, especially over 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:57.760 the last ten, maybe twenty years, more intermingling of similar 0:15:57.920 --> 0:15:58.760 financial bas. 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:04.760 I'm truly jobs that you just really got to grow 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:08.240 up black. That has to be fucking awesome. 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:12.080 It's just an experience that you don't see very often 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:13.720 in this country in a major city. 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:18.000 But I also feel like that also kind of while 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:20.080 I am jealous of that experience and I wish I 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:25.040 had it, I also realized how un American kind of 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:28.200 that happens, you know what I mean, Like like you 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:33.360 kind of don't know anything outside of that. Like again, 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.000 like there is a cultural difference that I learned from 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:40.000 I didn't really interact with white people growing up as 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:43.200 much until I got towards high school, but Mexican people 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:47.240 my whole life. So like you could see the melting 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:52.200 pot not just from like a like from a like 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:54.080 we said, like from a macro like. You didn't see 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:56.240 it far apart. You saw it up close and personal. 0:16:56.560 --> 0:17:01.520 So you can see how these communities could be, you know, intertwine, 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.960 you know, woven together culturally where they live the same way. 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:07.760 So you could And I think that's the kind of 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:10.200 the point of America, right, or at least that's the 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:14.040 make belief point, is that they want a melting pot 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:17.200 of people to come together and create this great place. 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:24.399 So I think when we're saying this, it's just I 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:27.479 understand why California can go to New York and New 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:32.200 York and come to California and pretty much just assimilate 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:33.760 in with it. None of it is going to take 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.879 you by storm versus where like I said, you're right 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:39.560 when I go to Detroit, when I go to Atlanta, 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:41.159 you know what I mean, for the most part, like 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:45.520 these are really dominant black towns, and like I said, 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:47.600 as much as I'm jealous of it, it also kind 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:51.359 of makes the world look crazy to you. Like you know, 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:56.360 you probably see racism like it's some distant thing weirdly, 0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:58.600 you know what I mean, Like, how could you really 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:03.240 like do you think you experienced racism in your face? Often? 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:03.840 No? 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:07.199 So, like you know what I mean. Was the Detroit police 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:10.320 black in the eighties and nineties, Yes, Like, yeah, I 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:12.600 didn't ever see a black police You've probably seen that 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:15.120 one time, Like growing up, Like, I didn't even see 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:17.080 that many black police. I see more than now, but 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:19.879 I didn't see them as much. Growing up. Police were 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:22.440 pretty much always white in Mexican. 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:24.679 In the eighties, it was more white cops than you 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:29.680 see now, definitely, Like the numbers have shifted remarkably now 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:31.480 to represent more than the population. 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:32.680 Kham. 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:35.840 You know, but like when I went to court, you 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:38.359 know in the prosecutor was black, the judge was black. 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:44.080 Oh, you probably got real justice close. 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:46.040 Now, black police was. 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:51.040 Just the worst fact, but you still got closer. 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:53.720 But you got closer to what justice is supposed to 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:54.959 be facts. 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:59.200 That's fire, low key trap. Yeah, so you couldn't even 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:01.000 scream at the Bible. You're only doing this because I'm 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:03.439 a black man, like nigga shut up and. 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:12.760 May and may actually say that like like, let's say 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:18.560 you go from Watts to Beverly Hills, h the way 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:24.240 you behave changes. May it may not be a lot, 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:27.280 but but you change a little bit based on the 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:31.719 cultural surroundings and the expectations of that culture that that 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:34.960 you're in currently. And that'd be my problem with with 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:38.080 with Latinos wanting to say nigga everywhere. Just because you 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:42.120 were in one community that allowed that doesn't mean that 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:45.480 every nigga you see is good with that. And if 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:48.000 there is somebody black that is not good with that, 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:53.720 you should you should accommodate that. And the arrogance of 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:56.240 people like Fat Joe to be like, no niggad I've 0:19:56.240 --> 0:20:00.040 been saying nigga since since whenever. That's got nothing to 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:03.719 do with me, bruh. You should accommodate those people that 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:06.280 you know that are out there, the black people you 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:11.440 say you love so much. You should accommodate those shitload 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:13.800 of people that don't like you saying that word. 0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:17.520 I think it depends on how you speak with somebody too. 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:21.320 I think there's a natural thing when it comes to 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:23.560 people that come from our walker life, from the ghetto, 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:25.719 where I think if people would have sat down with 0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:29.400 Fat Joe and had an intelligent conversation expressed so forth 0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:34.200 and so on, versus approach of like which I get 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:35.960 it too, Like I'm not mad at that. Like if 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:38.120 you're a brother from Detroit and you like nigga, don't 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:40.639 say that to me, then I get it for me. 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:42.920 But I also feel like you probably could have got 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:46.720 a lot more done if you expressed him. Because again, 0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:49.480 remember these people like a Mexican person from where I'm from, 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:53.960 or a Cuban or Puerto Rican person that's from New York, right, 0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:57.560 they're going to not they don't have the history on blackness. 0:20:57.640 --> 0:20:59.800 Why this word is the word it is. These are 0:20:59.840 --> 0:21:02.680 not simple things that are talked about all the time. 0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:06.159 It's just the way people talk. Then as people get older, 0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:10.240 they start to realize sometimes they don't need a job, 0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:13.679 like sometimes people from the community really don't. They like 0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:16.680 they get a culture shock when they go somewhere else 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:19.640 and be like that's their introduction to it, or they 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:21.480 meet somebody who's uncomfortable with it. 0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:25.760 Maybe well, either one of two things, your community doesn't 0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:28.240 love that Hispanic person as much as they say they do, 0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:31.359 or they would teach them the rules and regulations outside 0:21:31.400 --> 0:21:35.879 of the walls of your community, or that person just 0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:39.000 an asshole and don't care. But when you go elsewhere 0:21:40.200 --> 0:21:42.480 that that attitude may catch up with you. 0:21:43.280 --> 0:21:46.920 Sure, But it's also like multifaceted. I mean, I think 0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:49.800 if we were I think if black people in every 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:54.280 ghetto were more kind of national base in their blackness, right, 0:21:54.359 --> 0:21:57.760 it's like they probably wouldn't be doing saying it, or 0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:00.360 you know, we wouldn't have the same problem. I mean, 0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:04.520 poverty does become hella restrictive. So if I can understand 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:07.840 how a nigga in Detroit would feel about certain things, 0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:09.880 maybe I'm not even fighting with the niggas the next 0:22:09.880 --> 0:22:14.720 street over. I mean, it probably would dilute the power 0:22:14.760 --> 0:22:16.439 that poverty is, you know what I mean, that the 0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:19.560 burden it is. I'm sorry, Pete, I don't say. 0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:20.520 Like there's two sides of the coin. 0:22:20.560 --> 0:22:25.240 There's like obviously from your guys perspective, it's it's as 0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:29.359